Friday, March 9, 2012
I love chocolate chip cookies, and I'm gradually moving from vegetarianism to veganism, but of course cookies require eggs and butter.|||I like my own recipe best, but any recipe will do, with some minor adjustments, even the ones on the back of the chocolate chips packages.
First of all, obviously you'd want vegan chocolate chips. It's not too hard to find dairy free semi-sweet ones. They're in just about any grocery store.
In your recipe, instead of butter, use a vegan, usually soy-based margarine. Again any decent sized grocery store should probably carry some, as would an organic/health food store.
In place of 2 eggs, use 1/4 cup of natural UNSWEETENED applesauce.
Because of the way that the fruit puree goos up the dough, use approximately 1/4 to 1/2 tsp more baking soda than the recipe calls for, depending on how light you want your cookies. (More for lighter, less for heavier.)
I would also suggest using less salt than most recipes call for, no more than a pinch.
Good luck.|||I just tried the recipe from "Vegan with a Vengeance" (you might find the recipe here: http://www.theppk.com/ ) and they were pretty darned good. Not the very best chocolate chip cookies I've ever baked in my life, but good enough for omnivores to ask for seconds. I think I might try tweaking the molasses/sugar ratio a bit next time (in favor of a smidge more molasses and a little less sugar to keep the sweetness the same but make them a little richer.)
Edit to add: baking SO does not require eggs and butter. If you don't have a copy of "Vw/aV" pick one up. The pumpkin oatmeal cookies were divine with no tweaking and I'm addicted to all the muffin recipes I've tried so far (not to mention that the "real food" is pretty awesome, too.)|||Use applesauce in place of the egg and a vegetable based margarine in place of butter. Now you can have almost any kind of cookie you would like, except meringue.|||how about a raw recipe?
in a food processor: 1/2 cup raw almonds, 1/4 cup raw walnuts, and a dash of salt
add 6 unsoaked pitted medjool dates and 2 soaked (just put them in water for 20 minutes), with 1/4 teaspoon almond or vanilla extract
process until sticky
mix in chocolate chips
roll into little balls and then flatten to make cookies. grind up about 1/4 cup almonds in the food processor, then roll the cookies in the almonds. this will keep them from getting too sticky.
put them in a covered container in the refrigerator for two hours.
i swear this tastes just like cookie dough. it's great. they're not warm like fresh-out-of-the-oven chocolate chip cookies but they're still delicious!|||im not vegan but just search for some recipes and start baking
http://www.chooseveg.com/vegan-chocolate鈥?/a>
This uses Earth balance(butter) and egg replacer for the eggs even has a video|||I just use a regular recipe with very easy substitutions. Instead of butter, I use Blue Bonnet Light margarine (cheap!). In place of eggs, I use a small bit of applesauce, or even nothing (they turn out SLIGHTLY crunchier). When you buy chocolate chips, MOST (not all) semi-sweet morsels do not contain milk. Just check the bag. If the recipe calls for milk (which is rare), I use water instead, assuming it's not a lot (more than a cup), and it tastes no different. You could also use soy milk, if you have it.|||There is milk in chocolate chips so I don't think you can have chocolate chip cookies.
Oatmael Raisin cookies are great though.
I'm a newbie to veganism and I wanted to try making something with tofu but I bought medium textured tofu. I've been looking at recipes and they all call for firm tofu... can I still use my tofu?|||You can, but it may not come out as well. Here's a tip that helps me in the prep of tofu. Freeze it solid overnight. Then place it in the fridge for about a day and a half to thaw. This improves the texture greatly. Also make sure you press all of the water out of it until it's completely dry before you use it.
If 80% of vegetable crops are pollinated by captive bees, aren't 80% of the vegetable crops produced by the "exploitation" of bees?
These bees are held captive just like honeybees are. There is no harm done to the bees by either using them for pollination, nor harvesting the honey they produce.
Is it ok for vegans to be eating crops that are pollinated by captive bees? It would seem like that would go against the definition of "vegan".
Please answer just the questions asked. No need to defend veganism as if it's being attacked.|||Interesting question but I am going to tuck my tail between my legs and say that I am not touching htis one with a ten foot pole. However, with the honey bee crises I don't think we could too much without our captive bees.
edit- I am not sure if this is everywhere but where I live in the Midwest US farmers do use some captive bees for pollination. There are some real nice honey famers close to us and they have been hit hard by the honeybee crises. I know there are few bad ones in every lot, but these people are very nice and treat their bees with 110% respect. They do not do any of the burning or ect. Like I said though they are a small operation. I am sure some of the larger ones do use exploitive techniques.|||good question! I guess true vegans need to grow their own food if they want to be 100% true to their beliefs..|||Um, good luck finding veggies that weren't pollinated with bees! Whether wild or not, they still do the same job. The only difference is one lives in a moving hive and one in a stationary one. The quality of life for the bees is the same.|||"If 80% of vegetable crops are pollinated by captive bees....."
Its a shame you didn't quote the next sentance which says "...the 80% figure is likely wrong. Independent surveys suggest that honeybees are the dominant pollinators for only 15% of the world's crops", and they are talking about bees, not captive bees.
http://www.vegetus.org/honey/ecology.htm
A troll misquoting a website for thier own purpose, surely not !
If a bee were "captive", how would it pollinate vegetables ?
We don't use this process in the UK so I guess UK vegans are OK to carry on eating|||The only troll here is Mikey H flogging as a vegetarian and one concerned about animal rights when he's selling his hay to feed cattle that are to be cruelly slaughtered.
The argument is logical and makes sense. That's why only Breathairians are able to stick by what they believe. Damn vegans and vegetarians always find an "exception".|||you live in a house (i assume), do you consider yourself as being held captive? if bees were held captive, the could not get out. that is what captive implies. if they can't get out, they would not be able to make honey or pollinate anything. when you raise bees, you want them to live in your hive boxes but you do not keep them in the boxes. they come and go as they want. and people wonder why vegans get a bad name.
where did 80% pollination number come from? seems like it should be much higher.
Exclude foods with any dairy products or eggs.
Exclude any meat, as well.
I've become vitamin B deficient due to my veganism, I've started to take vitamin B pills but I heard that pills aren't enough.|||Pills are enough. Its hard to become b12 defiecent right away, as it is stored in the liver for years... However, you should drink soymilk, and eat mock meat, as well as fortified foods like breakfast cereals.|||beans
dark green leafy veggies like kale, collards, and broccoli
Like lacto versus ovo versus pescaterian versus any others....
Is there one form of vegetarianism that's any better than any other?
Is it better to go raw foodies, all natural (which may or may not include some "meats" like insects and wild-caughts).
I am guessing it is best to go all veganism over all types of vegetarianism, and all-natural or vegan over most other diets.|||Flexitarianism
A flexitarian is a person who largely follows a vegetarian diet, but allows oneself to sometimes make exceptions for certain situations, such as for social occasions, pragmatic reasons or nutrition reasons.
Semi-vegetarianism
A semi-vegetarian is, in some ways, a person who is ‘almost vegetarian’ and can refer to: - a person who does not eat certain meats (usually red meat) but eats limited amounts of some other meats- a person who does not eat red meat- a person who is a flexitarian i.e. the 2 terms are sometimes used interchangeably
This diet is sometimes used by those who wish to reduce the amount of animal food they consume, without totally being vegetarian, or sometimes as a transition to a full vegetarian diet.
Lessetarianism
A lessetarian is a person who focuses on reducing the proportion of animal flesh eaten, without fully eliminating it from his diet.
Ovo-vegetarianism
An ovo-vegetarian is a vegetarian who also eats eggs; the prefix “ovo” refers to eggs.
Lacto-vegetarianism
A lacto-vegetarian is a vegetarian who also eats dairy products, such as milk, yogurt and cheese; the prefix “lacto” refers to dairy products. He is sometimes also called a lactarian.
Ovo-lacto-vegetarianism or Lacto-ovo-vegetarianism
An ovo-lacto-vegetarian or a lacto-ovo-vegetarian is a vegetarian who also eats eggs and dairy products such as milk and cheese.
The basic rationale for this diet, I gather, is that animal food which is produced without causing death or suffering to the animals can be eaten. Another example of such foods would be honey. Some would disagree, however, as they feel that milking cows or making use of bees to produce honey would in fact be causing them suffering.
Pesco-vegetarianism or Pescetarianism
A pesco-vegetarian is a vegetarian who also eats seafood or sea animals, excluding sea mammals. They may also eat eggs or dairy products. He is sometimes also called a pescetarian.
Pollotarianism
A pollotarian is a person who does not eat all meat except poultry and fowl.
Macrobiotic Diet
The macrobiotic diet is a diet with many followers who believe in its health-promoting qualities. It contains mainly of unprocessed vegetarian foods such as whole grains, vegetables and beans. However, it is not a fully vegetarian diet as it sometimes contains fish. Sugar is avoided, and fruits are often also excluded or consumed in limited amounts.
The macrobiotic diet stands out due to its extensive inclusion of sea vegetables, such as seaweeds.
Su Vegetarianism
A su vegetarian is a vegetarian who also does not eat the fetid vegetables, i.e. garlic, leeks, onions, scallions, shallots. Su vegetarianism originates from Hinduism.
Fruitarianism
A fruitarian is a person who eats plant foods which can be gathered or harvested without harming or killing the plant e.g. apples and pears can be eaten without the apple or pear tree dying. This includes fruits, nuts, seeds and some other parts. On the other hand, a carrot cannot be harvested without killing the plant.
This is probably one of the strictest types of vegetarian diets around.
Veganism
Vegans do not eat any animal products at all, including eggs, dairy products, as well as processed foods which contain substances derived from animals, such as gelatin. Even honey is excluded.
To a large extent, veganism is more than just a diet, but also a lifestyle – some vegans do not use any animal products at all, not even for clothing or other purposes. They would often also be against practices such as animal testing in laboratories and modern commercial livestock farming methods.
A dietary vegan only adheres to the diet portion of veganism.
Raw Veganism
A raw vegan is a vegan who only eats raw foods.
Some define a raw vegan diet as one which consists of unprocessed foods which have not been heated above 46 degrees Celsius or 115 degrees Fahrenheit. The rationale is that foods which are heated above this temperature lose a significant portion of their nutrients, and can even become harmful to the human body when consumed.|||no
I recently became a vegetarian about a month and a half ago. I still eat eggs and drink milk. I have been doing weight lifting with my brother.
I understand that it might be more of a challenge to gain muscle mass on a vegetarian diet, but I have read about famous bodybuilders who were/are vegetarian.
I'm considering becoming a vegan, but I am going to be a vegetarian for a while first, and then switch to veganism. I'd also like to know some good substitutes for eggs and milk.|||I am not a doctor, so I have to say please check with your doctor before starting any new diet or exercise routine.
As long as you eat a balanced vegan diet, you should get all the amino acids, protein, carbohydrates and fats that your body requires. If you are concerned about getting enough vitamins and minerals, try Pangea's VeganLife multivitamin formula (veganstore.com link below).
For milk, you can substitute soymilk, almond milk, or oatmilk. Try different brands and see which ones you like (I like Westsoy, AlmondBreeze, and Whole Foods' brands).
To replace eggs when baking, you can use Egg replacer, a powdered starch-based product. For scrambled eggs, I love Tofu Scrambler (you can ask for the seasoning packet at most health food stores) - you just mix it with tofu and sort of stirfry it. Eggless Salad is another seasoning packet you can mix with Nayonnaise (delicious egg-free mayonnaise substitute) and tofu for a great dip or sandwich with bread.
According to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, you will need 5+ servings per day of whole grains, 2+ servings per day of legumes (beans, peas, lentils, nuts), 3+ servings of fruit and 4+ servings of vegetables per day for a healthy, balanced diet (please see link below). I have been a healthy vegan for 15 years, have never had to go to a doctor in all the time since then.
You may want to check out a couple of books from your library on vegan nutrition, such as Becoming Vegan: The Complete Guide to Adopting a Healthy Plant-based Diet by Brenda Davis, R.D. and Vesanto Melina M.S., R.D. and Vegan Nutrition: Pure and Simple by Michael Klaper, M.D. for more detailed nutritional information.
As for bodybuilding, check out the other 2 websites I have listed below if you haven't looked at these before. I think you'll find the nutritional information you'll need for being a strong vegan, strong enough for bodybuilding!|||well yeah its going to be very hard to gain muscle mass. you probably arent getting much protien. and for a substitute you can always do powdered milk i guess bu i have no idea for the eggs. and about the amino acids just take some vitamins|||Ignore the protein hype, it's all a myth! If you get 10% of your calories from protein you'll eat more protein (and amino acids) than you body can EVER use. You can use a website like nutritiondata to get real data on how much protein you take in.
http://www.nutritiondata.com/
Once you register you can use their Pantry to exactly track your nutrition.|||Any combination of legumes and grains will give you all of the essential amino acids.
They used to tell vegetarians to make sure that they ate "complimentary proteins" (that is, from a bean source and a grain source) at every meal. But not any more, as long as your diet is balanced as a whole.
Some people say that soybeans and quinoa are "complete," containing all of the essential amino acids, but there is some disagreement. Anyway, it seems so natural (and easy) to eat beans and grains together (beans on toast, vegetarian red beans and rice, tofu fried rice, black bean soup in a bread bowl, vegetarian chili mac, boca (soy) burger on bun, cold cereal with soy milk, etc.) that the existence of a vegetarian complete protein source is, what's the word I want, superfluous. Especially now that the "complementary protein at every meal" rule has been abolished.
Nuts are also high in protein, but I don't know whether they fall into the bean side or the grain side, so I'll let someone else speak to them.
The amount of protein you get from a balanced vegetarian diet is more than adequate for an athletic lifestyle. I'm not sure, however, if you are going for a Mr. Universe type of build, whether you would benefit from a protein supplement (which, by the way, are common among the top level bodybuilders who do eat meat, so it's not a vegetarian thing, it's a bodybuilder thing). Most of them are based on whey, which is dairy, but there are vegetarian options out there. Personally, I think too much protein is unhealthy, but I'm not a bodybuilder.|||There are tons of vegetarian sources of protein and the old idea that you had to combine them to get a complete protein in each meal has been modified. As long as you're getting enough protein from a variety of sources, your body will complete the amino acid profile. There is, however, a vegetarian source of protein with all 8 essential amino acids and that's quinoa. It has more protein than any other grain, plus loads of calcium, iron and fiber.|||eat a wide variety of foods. if your consuming beans,whole grains, rice, fruit, veggies, nuts, seeds and (if you like it) soy through out the day, then you are all set!
there are oat, rice, nut, soy and coconut milks out there for when you decide to go vegan. my favorite is almond breeze (their chocolate 'milk' taste just like conventional chocolate milk) but try them all out. everyone has different taste.
for eggs there is egg replacer (for when your cooking) but other than that there is not an actual replacer for eggs like for cooked eggs for breakfast. though you can use tofu for a variety of foods.
when you go vegan, or even now since your still starting off with vegetarianism, if you need any help you can always email me. i'd be happy to help ya out with whatever|||Quinoa has all essential amino acids, making it a complete protein. It's packed full of all kinds of nutrition. It's a seed that acts as a grain and you cook it like rice. It's very versatile as well - you can spice it up for dinner, sweeten it for breakfast, put it in salads, etc. Hemp protein is a complete protein and is also the most easily digested and absorbed by the human body out of what is thus far known. You can find hemp cereal, powder, milk, etc. Beans are obviously high in protein.
But, everything has amino acids - they are deemed "the building blocks of life." The only way you're going to have a "protein deficiency" is if you completely starve yourself. Cows, in their natural state, eat grass and leaves and that kind of stuff all day. You don't see them, or any other herbivore, itchin' for a protein fix. If you're eating a varied diet, you're sure to get all the protein you need. Vegans, contrary to popular belief, get more than enough. And there are world class body builders and athletes who are vegan (Google them), so I really don't think it would be a challenge to build muscle.
I've been recently writing about protein in my blog if you're interested. It's veganjacks.blogspot.com
Good luck.
They always tell me that veganism is stupid and i try to support myself by telling them that I do it for my health, the environment, and the animals, and they reply with who cares about the environment and animals and that I lack protein and nutrients, and I can't stand to listen to them anymore. What can i do to get them to respect me? They even call me a grass eater.|||Just don't respond. It is your life, not theirs. They continue to harass you because you continue to argue back. If you ignore them, they will realize that you are not interested in their misinformed information.|||Them: "Who cares about animals/the environment?"
You (looking at them like they are total morons): "Um, me. Duh."
Them: "You aren't getting any protein/nutrients!"
You (again looking at them like they are total morons): "You do realize that (whatever you're eating) has protein/nutrients, right?"
If you get someone who has a vague idea of what they are talking about, you might have to deal with more specific questions. Be prepared.
Them: "You aren't getting complete protein!"
You: "Thanks for your concern. Which particular amino acid are you worried that I am lacking?"
If they can't say anything, no worries. If they have an answer, know how to show that your bases are covered. Tryptophan is probably the most commonly-cited example.
Them: "But you aren't getting non-heme iron!"
You: "Yeah, I know. Iron is tough for everyone to absorb. Most people absorb about 15-35% of the heme iron that they consume, but for non-heme, it's only 2-25%. I take vitamin C to help absorb it, and try to get my calcium at a different meal so the two don't compete for absorption in my intestine. I also avoid tea, wine, and other foods with tannin when I'm having my iron-y food. Thanks for the concern!"
Them: "You're a grass eater!"
You: "Don't be silly. I'm not a ruminant. I only have one compartment to my stomach. Why would I eat grass? I couldn't digest it!"
Basically, have an answer ready. Be sure that your answer actually addresses the question, and remain calm. It's far less fun to pick on someone who doesn't freak out. If you can make 'em laugh/tease back, so much the better.|||First of all, Respect yourself for your own beliefs.
Apart from feeling uncomfortable when they give you a hard time, their opinions don't have any value or carry any weight with you unless you allow them too.
Ask yourself does it really matter to you whether they approve, understand or respect your choice?
If it really bothers you then ask yourself why it matters, the answer maybe how unconvincing you sound yourself in the arguments you put forward as your reasons.
Good Luck, and remember not to bite back at their teasing 'cos you don't eat animals of any description !! ;))|||Who cares about the environment? Oh dear. If anyone told me that, I would tell them that they should be thankful some people care or else they'd be swimming in their own waste and no water would be clean to drink, no air safe to breathe. Good gourd, how can you hate the environment?
Instead of retalliating, just ask them. Ask them why they feel that way.
"Why don't you care about the environment? The only reason we have clean air and water is because of environmental scientists. Why do you hate clean air?"
"What's the big deal that I'm vegan?"
"You think plants don't have protein? Prove it. Look it up."
"I don't make fun of you. I'm your friend/child/sibling, why are you being so very nasty to me for acting on my ethics? Why is that sooo bad?"
Just some questions for you to ask them.|||Ive been ridiculed alot by my family for being vegan. Especially since my grandfather was a butcher and everyone in my family hunts. It used to hurt my feelings when they brought it up, but now when they do i just tell them they aren't worth arguing with. It doesn't matter what they think as long as your confident that you're doing right. And if its really bothering you that much just calmly as them to stop and let them know that it really aggrivates you.|||I had the same issue. I'm 20 now, but a few years ago, I had been thinking about becoming Vegetarian. So this past year, I was Vegetarian for 6 months before making the full transition. And during those 6 months, my family gave me torture, except my Mother. My Mother was the only person who really believed in my decisions. What everyone ate in the house, I made substitutions. I started to ignore my families comments and harsh words. And...they stopped as well.
So my advice to you: Just ignore their words. Eventually, they'll stop. It's your life and decisions. Don't be surprised if you have to make your own meals.|||the same thing happens to me. the best thing you can do is not to react at all or just laugh it off! if you don't give them amunition, they'll get bored and stop bothering you. everyone gets picked on for something, its the way of the world. just ignore them and toughen up a smidge. really, its not worth it to fight back.|||Calmly explain to them that its your choice to be a vegan, just like its their choice to eat meat and stuff.
It might just be friendly teasing, because they love you, but its obviously bothering you. Another option would be to just accept the teasing and laugh along|||Like immature children, they will stop if ignored. Don't respond to any of their ignorant attacks, and they'll eventually get bored and stop.|||Who cares what they think it's your life.|||ask them how their corpse tastes or talk about the rendering industry, how they grind up euthanized cats and dogs to make food for other pets and farm animals|||What can you do to get them to respect you?
- Quit taking their bait. If they see they're getting no reaction, they'll get bored and move on to an easier prey.
- Respect yourself. You can't expect to get respect from other people if you don't even get it from yourself.
- Stay healthy. The best way to bring people around (to anything) is to be a good example. Maintain a healthy weight range while most of them are packing on the excess kilograms. Live a long life while they're all dying of heart disease and cancer in their 40s or 50s. As much as you can, prevent yourself from even catching colds and flus, as your "friends" (nice friends you have!) will claim you're sick because you're a vegan, ignoring the fact that omnivores catch colds just as easily (if not more so).
- Research nutrition, diet and health. You can thereby make sure that you *are* getting enough nutrients. You can also argue better if you know what you're talking about. (For instance, you can find a lot more information to indicate that you're getting enough protein than they can find to indicate that you're not. But, then again, they're not going to look for any, as they obviously live by the principle that "ignorance is bliss".) It's an ongoing process, as there are always new studies being released and reported - so read the news regularly. Look for anything linking certain foods or diets to the level of risk of certain medical conditions. Keep a copy of anything interesting or useful, or bookmark the websites.
I see people argue back and forth... more **** talking than discussing. Im just curious where these twisted views come from. and i'm not talking about people who justdon'tt really care for meat. im talking about these people who treat veganism like a damn religion.|||They feel that way because the way people kill the animals is absolutely brutal and just f+cked up.|||I admire vegans, they stick to their convictions and make sacrifices for what they think is right.
It's very sad that we have to kill to eat. How far have we really come?|||I haven't met any of the extra religious vegans but most vegans that I do know say that meat tastes awful and makes them want to puke. When they're over I prepare a meatless substitute.|||They call it "stolen animal products". A few eat it for specific health reasons, but most don't.|||Think of all the animals slaughtered to provide humans with meat. If we knew what went on in those slaughter houses, most of us would probably convert. I eat meat because I've been eating it all my life and I'm too used to it and like it too much to stop, but if I had to slaughter the animals myself to eat it, I could never do it. Could you?|||I don't know, but if jesus ate meat that's good enough for me.|||the Hell with Vegans meat is AWESOME!!!
I understand the reasoning behind vegetarianism and veganism, but could someone kindly explain the reasoning behind abstaining from only eggs and not dairy or only dairy and not eggs (the ethical reasons, not health).
Thanks =)|||yeah I'm sorta confused about that too.|||In favour of lacto vegetarianism:
-regarding the egg as an unborn animal, and therefore analogous to eating meat
In favour of ovo vegetarianism:
-the necessity for a cow to reproduce to give milk, thereby supporting the killing of unwanted calves, as opposed to hens being able to lay eggs for human consumption without having babies as "by-products"|||lacto-vegetarianism or ovo-vegetarianism isn鈥檛 just refraining from eggs or just from dairy.
It鈥檚 refraining from meat plus eggs or meat plus dairy.
Basically with every animal or animal byproduct food there is different suffering involved. With dairy there is the suffering that happens to dairy cows and it is also directly connected to the veil industry.
With eggs there is the suffering of the chickens cooped up in cages.
When you decide to become vegetarian you make the decision to take a stand against the cruelty to animals.
Some people just refrain from meat. Some take it a step further and stop eating eggs and dairy. Some choose to do one or the other. For some people it鈥檚 really hard to refrain from all animal products so they do what they can live with comfortably.
I was vegan for 3 years and then after a while it was just too hard to keep up with it as far as eating out and going to family events and parties. So I decided to allow myself a limited amount of eggs and dairy. My vegetarian life style is now easier for me to keep up.|||I agree with JV the Greatest, I am a lacto-ovo vegetarain, and for those who say an egg is an unborn chicken they should have there heads read???, I chose to become a vegtarian for health reasons, I was a chef for over 20+ year around the world, ate anything and everything that moved, but as a diabetic and having a celiac condition I have had to seek out a veggie lifestyle for both health and comfort reasons.
As JV said some people can adapt to the vegan lifestyle and not have issues, it is matter of body preference, I see no ethical issues with a lacto or ovo veg person, it is a choice to not eat them and any animal products, but it can make getting your protein levels in the diet you choose to be enough, especially if your a convert like me. I have no problem as I eat tofu, beans/legumes, all veg, a modicum of dairy in the form of yougart mostly, and only egg whites in cooking no whole eggs.
For some it is an ethical reason, they are unaware of things beleive all the retoric about unborn chicks and puss in the milk, trust me I have seen the processing of these foods and in the U.S and Canada there are very strict regulations as to the content of our food now, so the blind issues are not there anymore, and those who would say the are have mental issues.
Pretty much all of my friends are telling me to read something by him but I don't know where to start. What was your favorite book by him?
I read about five pages of slaughter-house five and didn't like it. Maybe I should give it another chance? I had veganism in my mind when I was reading it, you know, "slaughter house".
I've read an essay by him that I found really amusing but other than that, I'm clueless.
Any recommendations? |||Breakfast of champions.|||
Try Cat's Cradle. Excellent book. And yes, please give Slaughterhouse Five another chance. I think you will fall in love with it. Pax-C |||Go with the short story Harrison Bergeron. I thought it was really interesting and telling of what could come.|||Hocus Pocus was a great novel...and Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow is my favorite short story of his!|||In my opinion, without question- Slaughterhouse Five. |||The Slaughter House Five movie is much easier to read.|||I always recommend that folks start with Sirens of Titan. It's got the widest scope of his world view in it, and it's a great sampling of what Vonnegut is like as a writer. It's by no means his funniest book, but I think it's one of the more important ones - right up there with Slaughterhouse Five and Mother Night.
It's written in very short segments, and reads extremely fast. There are tons of great one line observations that you'll instantly feel the need to quote all the time! The story bounces between Malachi Constant - the protagonist - and Rumfoord, the founder of the "Church of God the Utterly Indifferent," a wealthy man who through a "series of accidents" becomes viewed sort of as a God on Earth and Mars. The story is magnificent, witty, quick, and, again, full of amazing observations and statements about society.
My favorite line of all time by Vonnegut, and the one that I think justifies people reading this book regardless of their tastes in literature, is, "A purpose of human life, no matter who is controlling it, is to love whoever is around to be loved."
Start with Sirens of Titan and move on from there. The universe Vonnegut created builds on itself and features a wide range of recurring characters including Kilgore Trout, and is an easy universe to fall hopelessly in love with if you give yourself the chance.
Enjoy Sirens!|||I really like the reasoning behind the "Sirens" suggestion. If you want to ease into Vonnegut a little, you might try "Welcome to the Monkey House", a collection of short stories that can be taken a little bit at a time. Will give you a great overall feel for how Vonnegut is going to talk to you in his novels
I've been doing a lot of research about veganism lately because I've been interested in making the switch. I have been a vegetarian for quite some time now. I was reading about vegan materials such as leather, wool, goose down, which are obviously not vegan, and I wanted to find out which commonly used materials are vegan?|||cotton
hemp
flax
modal
rayon
polyester
nylon
pvc/vinyl
etc. etc.
It's best to stick with natural fibers over manufactured ones though. They're less harsh on the environment & your body (man-made fibers make you sweat more...they don't really let your body breathe healthily/properly). But, at least a cotton/poly. blend is better than something that's 100% polyester or a poly/nylon blend, etc.|||I don't know if you have to use "vegan" stuff if you decide to be "vegan" and only eat plants. Raw and organic is a trip you might like. Cotton, hemp and rubber is the go. Silk, cashmere and wool would be out of it I would think.|||Cotton?
Hemp?
Synthetics?
That's what I use for clothes.|||Cotton is king.
I am making posters for my new room and I want to cover each wall with something important in my life and veganism is one of the big ones so i need a lot of slogans. I have regular 8 by 12 papers and need to cover a fairly large wall. So tell me any slogans you know or can think of.|||I'm not vegetarian coz I love animals, I'm vegetarian coz I hate plants
im a level 5 vegan :i dont eat anything that casts a shadow.
If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian|||Vegetarian by choice, not by chance.
Milk is rape.
Live simply, so that others can simply live.
--AND-- then:
give peas a chance
i love animals--just not for dinner
don't ask me why i'm a vegetarian--ask yourself why you're not
my body will not be a tomb for other animals
that's ms. liberal, tree-hugging, vegetarian hippie freak to you, buddy
hug a vegetarian
animals are my friends and i don't eat my friends
love animals, eat plants
beef: it's what's rotting in your colon
fish is not a vegetable
vegetarians are animals in bed
vegetarian because i know better
animals die to keep your fat *** alive
how can you be pro-life and eat dead animals
veggie kids--smarter than the average meathead
i think therefore i am vegetarian
vegetarianism for peace--nonviolence begins with your diet
be kind to animals--don't eat them
i'm not a vegetarian because i love animals--i'm a vegetarian because i hate plants
if you aren't a vegetarian you don't know beans
live and let live--go veg*n
if you're not vegetarian you're guilty of animal cruelty whether you know it or not
animals love me--plants fear me
i care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it--abraham lincoln
i <3 hunting accidents
if slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian
ham: enjoy your pig (butt, anus, ***)
vegetarian: no blood on my hands
mad cow: that's what you get for eating meat you dumb @$#&!
beets not meats
freak your parents out: go veg*n|||"Wings are for flying, not frying."
lol :)|||Vegan food is delicious too|||You want to turn your room into an advertisement???????
That will keep people out at least.|||"Tofu never screams."
I always loved that one, hehe.|||"I don't eat my friends"|||Meat is Murder! Delicious murder.
I enjoy most of them!
But I get a kick out of people thinking that veganism puts you into the extremist category...when I was vegetarian, no one would think twice of it...if I said that I was a strict vegetarian, no one would say anything, but say vegan and everyone takes a step back....but my life hasn't changed that much, except that I feel great.
I also find it amusing how people think that we are against natural law when really, that is exactly what we support.|||I wasn't particularly amused by this since it was a normally very intelligent person saying it but yesterday I was told that people don't need to eat plants. Every thing we need is in meat (who get it from the plants). It's more efficient to get nutrients from meat since the animals eat a variety of foods.|||Well if you are a dude, then everyone just assumes you must be gay if you are a vegan.
Also i love all those health myths about veganism being unhealthy. In fact, i was hit with such a grand preponderance of these "factual" based statements, that i actually dediced to make nutrition (dietetics) may area of formal study. Now whenever someone tries to tell me that veganisn isn't healthy, i first asked them to source their information, then i tell them how i study dietetics at my university. In the long haul its kinda funny.|||My mother always used to say, "I'm suprised they don't starve themselves to death. They ARE eating their animal friends' foods, isn't THAT animal cruelty?"|||They're allergic to the sun.
**|||My old boss told me one time that vegans were nasty and mental and smelled funny and they were colored green. that was the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Smelled funny?? Green?? Mental?? I know many vegans...and I mean "vegans" NO dairy...etc... they smell better naturally than any meat eater and they were far from being "green" and quite frankly were much less uptight. I told him to go get a colonic and put down that burger. lmao!|||Nothing wrong with them except for they live longer but the quirk that trips me out is when they get regular colon cleansing.
That's cool because I really love vegetarian fare and I'm an omnivore.|||My favorite is that vegetarians are scrawny and pale, because it's so easy to reply: "Forrest Whitaker and Hank Aaron are vegetarians."|||Oh goodness, where to begin?
Roll the laugh track!
- veganism is an eating disorder
- vegans are all liberal
- vegans are all socialist/communist
- vegan men are all gay
- vegan women are all lesbians
- vegans won't have sex with non-vegans
- vegan clothing is all cheap and ugly
- vegans don't tip or don't tip well
- vegans don't want carnivorous animals to eat meat
- vegans believe everyone should be vegan
- vegans are all underweight and pale
- vegans are all rich people with nothing better to waste money and time on
- vegans only support charities for animals
- vegans don't care about starving African children
- vegans all belong to PETA
- vegan women don't shave their legs/bodies
- vegans smell bad
- vegans can't stop farting, not even for a second
- vegan food is gross
- vegans all secretly crave meat/binge on meat in private
- vegan people are all atheist
- vegans all support abortion
- vegan men have erectile dysfunction
- vegan athletes are a joke and should be in the Special Olympics
- vegans can't exercise because they're too feeble
- vegans can't be runners or be very fast runners
- vegan people don't eat any protein
- vegan women don't get their periods
- vegan children are mentally retarded and stunted
- vegans spend hours trying to plan meals
- vegans are rude at social gatherings
- vegans can't adapt to social outings and offend everyone
- vegan men have low sperm count
- vegan men can't reproduce
- vegan men have so much estrogen from soy in their bodies they grow breasts and skin tags
- vegans are all extremists/lunatics
- veganism is a cult/religion/fanatic following
- vegan's poop smells super good
- vegan's poop smells super bad
- vegan's pee smells really good
- vegan's pee smells really bad
- vegans eat only raw food
- vegans cannot use computers
- vegans don't use any electronics
- vegans will not eat fruits or vegetables that weren't grown in confinement so that there isn't any animal fertilizer on them, bugs or insects or anything else like that
- vegans will not drink water from a water supply that other animals drank from
- vegans want to have NOTHING to do with animals, period, including no service-rescue dogs or pets
- vegans are constantly protesting something or other
- vegans cannot cook/there are no vegan cooks
- vegans cannot smoke or drink alcohol or be promiscuous
- vegans worship animals
- vegans are all hippies
- vegans are all potheads
- vegans are all preachy
- vegans have yellow, discolored skin
- vegans have green, discolored skin
- ALL vegans get routine colon cleansing
- vegans will not take medicine or go to a doctor, even to rescue their child that is dying of leukemia, and would instead try to heal their loved ones with herbs and shamanic chants
- vegans resort to crime to enforce their beliefs
I could go on FOREVER, there's been SO much stupidity I've seen on this site!|||I'm always puzzled by all the non-animal foods that some people will insist vegans don't eat. I've heard that we don't eat yeast, that we don't drink alcohol, that we don't drink coffee, that we don't eat bread, that we don't eat gluten, even that we don't eat peanuts. It seems that people are really confused and think that all vegans fit into whatever image the one vegan they've ever met fit. Sure, some of us are gluten free (usually because of gluten intolerance, and in no case I know of, because of the ethics of slaughtering all those poor, poor wheats!)
I feel really passionate about animal rights, health, and the environment... basically veganism in a nutshell! I think I could manage to date a vegetarian, but it would be really difficult for me to date an omnivore that would tell me, "I respect your decision, why can't you respect mine?" Because I find it difficult to respect the decision to cause harm and contribute to animal suffering, bad health, and polluting the environment.
I was just curious about your opinions!
Vegetarians: How would you feel about dating an omnivore?
Vegans: How would you feel about dating a vegetarian? How would you feel about dating an omnivore?|||I am Vegan. I dont think I could ever get serious with an omnivore. Maybe casual dating, but nothing more. I am also very passionate about animal rights and the environment, and wouldnt consider dating anyone who wasnt. We would be too different. I have never met another Vegan, and even Vegetarians are hard to come by. I would hate to say I am settling, but for now thats what I'm doing. I would love to find a Vegan, but it hasnt happened yet. I can say that I would never marry an omnivore. Could you imagine the problems that would arise there? Not saying I am better than them, just that our ideals would be too different.|||To the first poster:You do realise you can not eat meat and be for animal rights?
She is not implying anything you just saidf...hhhmmm, you like to put words in people's mouths....
Big deal, I will not be rude to a meat eaters face(ok, I will be rude tot the trolls, but they deserve it!) but I as well find it hard to respect them. Sorry, but that is my opinion and nobody is going to change it.
Veganism is very healthy, she has every right to be passionate about ehr health as a vegan, enviornment. You do realise how the meat industry hurt sthe enviornment right?
You simply can not be an enviornmentalist and eat meat!
I would find it a little hard to date an omnivore. Maybe if there was one considering going vegetarian I could bring myself to. Or if I simply really liked a girl.|||Funny.. sounds like you don't want a partner who can respect you.. you want a partner who does what he's told... that is called having a pet And going into a relationship where you already feel superior to the other person because of your personal choices almost certainly guarantees failure. The best part of a relationship is having the person by your side not looking down on them. On the other hand, there is no point either in getting into a relationship where you feel like puking every time you sit down for a meal.
Maybe when you grow up, you will understand that there is more to a relationship than "what's for dinner" and that there is more to life than "animal rights, health, and the environment"|||"I feel really passionate about animal rights, health, and the environment"
I eat meat and i also feel passionate about all those things. I think it shows how stupid vegetarians are that they don't believe a meat eater can be in support of any of those things. Just because i eat meat does not mean I am trying to make all animals go extinct, while killing myself, and tearing down all the trees. Quite the opposite. In general I think I have more respect for animals than most vegetarians ever could, I grew up on a farm so I've always had a special place in my heart for animals. My health is extremely important to me, i watch what i eat and run about 20 miles per week. I also recycle and my frat house picks up garbage around campus for 4 hours each week. I also don't have a car, I bike everywhere. Most vegetarians don't even put forth HALF as much effort that I do. You sound very narrow minded.|||I am very passionate vegetarian. I'm only 12 and my mom would kill me if i became a vegan but i plan to as soon as i move out.
All of my friends eat meat except for one but she's a pescotarian. I don't mind as long as they respect me. My entire family eats meat as well.
I've dated plenty of meat eaters and one of them tried to become a vegetarian with me. I agree it is easier to have the same diet. I am currently dating someone who's favorite foods are sushi and BBQ. Pretty ironic.
Give omnivores a chance, who knows maybe you can inspire them to become a vegetarian.|||Disagreeing on morals would probably mean you don't have that much in common in the first place, but I find more concern with functioning in everyday life. How do you enjoy a dinner out together when he orders a big fat steak? would you kiss him after he ate that? What if he uses chapstick with lanolin in it? Certainly can't kiss him then. I know a vegan who dates a meat eater and find that very strange.
Even if you believe in animal rights, especially if you are aware of the extremes of it and why I've made that choice, and claim ignorance anyway, that makes you look like an ***. That certainly would make it hard for us to hang out without coming to a heated debate.|||im a vegan.
to me my choice to being vegan is a personal choice, i don't have any problem dating an omnivore. as long as they respect my choice i'll respect theirs. there is no way im gonna find someone that i completely agree with everything they believe in, if veganism happens to be one of those points than so be it.|||I was an omnivore when I married my vegetarian wife (no, neither of us are vegan, but maybe this will still help you). She never pressured me, but I did learn how to eat tofu, and other different things. I ate less and less meat over the years. I ended up years later in a speech class where someone presented on factory farming. That was the last straw. I am now a (almost) happy vegetarian. My wife eased me into it without pressure. It's almost better that way...it was my own choice.|||I'm happily married to an omni. I went vegan after we got together. We get along with it way better than I thought we would. He orders meat when we go out and I don't cook it at home. He likes veggie food too, not just meat and potatoes.|||Id feel totally fine dating an omnivore as long as they didn't push the issue of me becoming an omnivore. If they supported my animal rights and concepts it would work out just fine.|||you can get more dating tips for men and women
http://www.momayz.net/date|||im a vegan and my bf is a meat eater its really annoying because when we have kids he doesnt want them to be vegan but i do its always a battle with every thing we can neva agree on party cakes etc..|||To me it's kind of like interfaith marriages. Some people can have successful relationships with people who don't share their beliefs, others can't. Depends on the person.|||I don't care-- I mean, he has his opinion on whatever, I have mine. Love isn't about what you eat, it's about... well, LOVE!|||***gasp***
your dating a dinosaur?!?!?!?!?!?|||Why do all vegans think that we have bad health?
I bet I am a healthier person than you, but we'll never know.|||Date an omnivore? Hell, I married one!|||red meat makes me big and strong|||I'm sort of in the same boat. I have been giving this much thought lately and I seriously don't think I could marry an omni. I know that sounds SO stuck up, as I would not want someone to say that they could not live with or marry a vegan. But it is what it is. I feel so passionately about my veganism, I know I could not tolerate having dead animals in my kitchen. Cooking is a wonderful experience for me and I just do not think I could fix my food knowing that there was one cruelty in my pots and pans. I could date an omni as long as we never eat together. (haha)
I think I could date a vegetarian, but I don't know if I could marry one. Eggs? Milk? Blech! Those smell to high heaven. Not sure I could stomach that.
I recently became a vegetarian, and I was wondering how long it took some of you that went from vegetarian to vegan. Or did you go hardcore into veganism. And how did you make the dietary transition|||One evening, a year ago, at 9PM I went vegetarian. The next day I ate a vegetarian lunch (salad with ranch dressing) and after that I went vegan. I went from omnivore to vegan in less than 24 hours!!
I did some research...propaganda on both meat/dairy and vegan sides sure, but the vegan "propaganda" was much more convincing and made absolute sense to me. The meat/dairy info I felt was for profit, whereas the vegan info was out there without you having to buy a certain product. The vegan side was genuinely concerned about the state of things and not trying to sell me a product for my money.
At first, I wasn't exactly sure what I should be eating, I just knew I had to do it...dive in, if you will. I went to countless websites and went to the library to gain some insightful information. And I have never looked back. It feels good to know that my money isn't directly going to the industrialized animal agribusinesses.
It's an easy transition and I didn't have to wean myself off animal products. My body may be different, I'm not sure, but just take it from me, I went vegan in a relative heartbeat. Ultimately, you know your body better than anyone else and your body will tell you what you need and what you don't. So give it a try already. Go vegan as soon as possible. If you feel it's too soon then gradually transition.
Have fun and enjoy your guilt-free lifestyle!|||I jumped right into veganism from a completely non-vegan diet. It mostly depends on whether you have to discipline yourself to keep to the diet, or whether you're concerned about nutrients. If you're concerned about nutrients, there are definitely differences and you need to research them. Once you're ready you can dive right in. Happy Eating!|||i eased myself into it in about a month. the first week i just stopped cheese. the second milk. the third egg. and the fourth anything else.
its ok to go your own pace. you are taking a great step to help others in need!!
PS= ALL THOSE BI0TCHES WHO ARE SAYING WE ARE CARNIVORES ARE WRONG YOU DUMBA$$ES SINCE WE EAT PLANTS MORONS! ALSO WE LIVE 3-5 YEARS LONGER THAN A MEAT EATER AND HAVE A 40% LESS CHANCE OF GETTING CANCER.
so shove that up your @SS
=]
good luck with being vegan and i hope you dont encounter d|ckheads like the ones above.|||It took me 7 years, during which time I gradually cut out all the non-dietary aspects such as cosmetics, pharmaceuticals and clothing; then the last thing was dairy products. But you can go straight into it if you want.
My best advice is join an animal rights group or a vegan social group to get support from other vegans. Check out yahoo groups to find something in your local area.|||I'm not techincally sure of the answer to this question, but my opinion on being a vegan is you'll know that you're a vegan when your vegetarianism becomes more passionate and serious.
I'd imagine that vegas feel very strongly (physically and emotionally) towards vegetarian lifestyles. the devotion portrayed by vegans is probably similar to any other activist group out there.
The difference between vegetarianism and vegan is probably the amount of passion and devotion one is willing to put into the transition.
I'm a vegetarian also, but i have my limits. I doubt that i'd ever be able to cross the line though.|||I don't think there is any reason why you have to wait. I have successfully switched to a vegetarian diet, but I can see that going vegan is going to be really hard for me. But that's my plan! I will enjoy reading the (serious) replies here too.|||I've been a vegitarian forever, and I became vegan last week. So I waited 17 years...but I dont think it should be a problem.
I only did it because of some PETA thing I read that scared me off dairy products for life. It's not that different. Just substitute soy everything.|||have a happy short expected lifespan|||Humans are carnivores. Our teeth prove this.
Eat a steak.
I decided to convert to veganism and am going to do it right! I know gelatin is from boiled bones and meat, and some red food dyes come from insects, but I'm not sure about any others.
What are some ingredients, like gelatin and such, that are derived from animals?|||"A few common ingredients found in lots of "seemingly" vegan food.... to look out for include:
* Gelatin (including marshmallows)
* Casein (calcium caseinate) (Found in soy cheese sometimes....)
* Rennet (Also found even in soy cheese sometimes....)
* Whey (a dairy product found in lots of things... breads, margarine...
Also look out for :
* Mayonnaise鈥ost contain egg
* Pasta鈥? Some contain egg"
More at source's website.|||Watch out for animal fats in food you wouldn't suspect they'd be in- like pies, cakes, refried beans, etc. Also, look out for anything that contains renet, which is usually used in making cheese. It's an animal enzyme.|||Whey, and lactose is milk.|||gelatin, casein (cheese), rennet (cheese), animal shortening, animal fat.|||websites that tell you which products have hidden animal products you cannot eat; (taken from the peta2 website: http://www.peta2.com/STUFF/s-eat.asp)
1. Gelatin: protein made by boiling cows鈥?and pigs鈥?skin, tendons, ligaments, and bones. Often used in Jell-O.
2. Lard: animal fat.
3. Pepsin: clotting agent from pigs鈥?stomachs, used in some cheeses and vitamins.
4. Rennet: enzyme taken from baby calves鈥?stomach essed in cheese production.
5. Stearic Acid: fatty substance taken from slaughtered pigs鈥?stomachs used in chocolate and vitamins.
6. Cetyl Palmitate: oil derived from whale鈥檚 sperm.
7. Urea: urine from animals, used to brown baked goods like pretzels.|||http://www.happycow.net/health-animal-in鈥?/a>
i think this list might help you|||be careful of mock caviar, some of them are made from lobster eye balls.
Even the people saying veganism is hard are wrong. If you're a lazy person that doesn't like cooking, veganism will be "hard" because you have to stop being lazy...even still, I have no problem eating out at restaurants that don't cater to vegetarians/vegans, including diners! So this notion that veganism is hard or difficult is from very confused and apparently people so lazy that they won't read a menu.
Veganism is easy and helped me cut my grocery bill by a whopping 66% and has improved my health. I was into bodybuilding as an omnivore, too, but I hold onto my gains longer with veganism!
Easy, inexpensive, healthy...can't ask for more than that!|||Why would you come to a board that is meant to help out vegetarians and vegans asking for arguments against it? Makes no sense.
Btw, to all the people saying its hard - its only as hard as you make it. If you tell yourself its hard, then it will be; if you tell yourself its easy, then it will be easy.
And vegans know that nobody can be 100% vegan; but there's a difference between doing the best you can to reduce animal suffering and help the environment and not doing anything at all.
There are no arguments against veganism. All the "arguments" come from those who are too ignorant to accept that veganism is actually an excellent way of living.|||The most compelling arguments I've heard is that vegan- ism is not sustainable. I do think it's true that's there's not enough vegetation to go around between a world full of vegan homsapiens and herbivore's. The other devil's advocate arguments I've accepted are that consumerists veganism isn't that environmentally friendly. Unless you're growing all your food permaculture style, or eating localvore, fossil fuel is being used to truck your stuff around and you're using just as much packaging as a person on a traditional diet. I'm not sure how long modern veganism would last in a depression since we're depending a lot on convenience. At some point we'd have to consider eggs and dairy. Then there's the argument that you can never truly be vegan unless you're a Buddhist monk or neoludite who is adverse to any form of technology containing the remains of deceased animals. Someone gave me a philosophical argument online that I couldn't refute. The only reason vegans can claim to be on high moral ground is because plants have not been proven to be sentiment. If you could prove otherwise then we'd have to find another reason besides the claim of compassion. As you can see I like a good argument.
I've been a vegan for 7 years but I'm no longer sanctimonious about it.|||There is really only one-it is very hard, if not impossible. I'm not counting spurious arguments like we are made to eat animals because of our wickedly sharp fangs, or harvesting crops kills animals ( what does livestock eat? right, plant crops) or dumb arguments like because meat tastes so good or supplies nutrients unavailable through other foods. That's just ignorance.
But it's not only difficult to avoid all animal byproducts or exploitation, it also takes a great deal of diligence and commitment just to plan your diet. I give big props to those even brave enough to try.|||It's impractical. However, it's hard to weigh practicality against morality.
Also, to an extent it's impossible. In this progressive society many objects are made of animal products. Vegans have to qualify this by saying they aim to minimize their contribution to animal suffering.|||Karina said it best. I have been a vegan for 3 years and it is easy for me. I don't crave cheese. I don't crave milk. I don't crave meat. It is far easier to be a vegan then ever before. They have so many options available so there really is no excuse for not being vegan. I DO see factory farming as a concentration camp for animals. Why is it that some people can make this distinction and others can't? I don't know. People need to think about what they eat. What they wear. Question things. The concept of reducing suffering is one of the reasons I am vegan. Take it as you may.|||The only somewhat valid reasons to not be vegan are ignorance & selfishness.
Regarding too many answers above, it is not difficult to be vegan at all. If you have the mindset that it is something that is difficult to do, then it ultimately will be just like anything. I've been vegan for over ten years & find it extremely easy.|||vegan, vegetarian or omnivore. all personal choices. not a reflection on anyone's character regardless of what anyone thinks. healthy, well balanced eating is what matters and morality and ethics should be at the head of the list. i personally have a problem with killing for sport. to me, that's disgraceful and truly sinful.|||There is no argument to be against a person's diet. You might as well write an essay about how you hate Jews and Kosher diets. It's wrong.
To whine and snivel about what a person eats is pathetic, not to mention vulgar. It's become way too common to actually waste time making excuses for what you eat.|||Veganism is good for the enviroment. Veganism is cruelty free. Vegans have a longer lifespan than meat eaters and experience fewer diseases. Vegan food is healthy! Oh, you wanted arguments AGAINST veganism??? Sorry, I honestly can't think of a single one.. Peace.|||With the exception that it's very hard to do, there really aren't any valid arguments. Besides, any person with the will and dedication could committ to veganism regardless of how hard it is.|||I can't give you one. I'm a vegetarian and so happy. I have never been this healthy in my life! I also dropped 13 pounds in a little over a month! My doctor says I'm in great shape inside and out! So, I have no idea why people still eat meat now-a-days!|||It turns you self righteous and judgmental possibly causing you to alienate friends and family.
But on the plus side you won't need to worry about self esteem issues with the free golden pedestal you get from the Vegan club.|||You need to what? I don't understand your English.
And if you don't want to be a vegan,nobody is forcing you to become one.
Not everybody is ready.|||Being a vegan means you can't eat meat eggs or dairy anymore.
For me, that would absolutely suck.|||Assuming you are looking for *valid* arguments against Veganism, there are none.|||Its no good for lazy people who are not prepared to cook delicious food, they would be setting themselves up to fail.|||There are no arguments against veganism.|||IMO, there's only one valid, scientific argument against veganism: Humans require Vitamin B12 and it is not available in any plant foods.
Today people who choose and can afford to take a handfull of pills every day can supplement, but that's a fairly new option for humans. So obviously it's not human's natural diet. There is no archaeological evidence of any ancient peoples who did not use/consume animal products.
From a VEGAN site:
--"B12 is generally found in all animal foods (except honey). Contrary to rumors, there are no reliable, unfortified plant sources of vitamin B12, including tempeh, seaweeds, and organic produce. The overwhelming consensus in the mainstream nutrition community, as well as among vegan health professionals, is that plant foods do not provide vitamin B12, and fortified foods or supplements are necessary for the optimal health of vegans, and even vegetarians in many cases. Luckily, vitamin B12 is made by bacterial fermentation such that it does not need to be obtained from animal products."--
How important is B12:
--" B12 protects the nervous system. Without it, permanent damage can result (e.g., blindness, deafness, dementia). Fatigue, and tingling in the hands or feet, can be early signs of deficiency.
Vitamin B12, like folate (aka folic acid), is needed to help red blood cells divide. In some cases, vegans may get so much folate that even with B12 deficiency, their blood cells continue to divide properly. In other cases, their blood cells will fail to divide properly and they will become fatigued and suffer from macrocytic (aka megaloblastic) anemia.
Mild B12 Deficiency
Homocysteine is a byproduct of protein metabolism. Elevated homocysteine levels are linked with increased risks of heart disease and stroke. From 1999 to 2003, there were many studies comparing the homocysteine levels of vegans and vegetarians who do not supplement their diet with vitamin B12 to those of non-vegetarians (more info). In every study, the vegans or vegetarians had higher homocysteine levels than the meat-eaters and in the range associated with heart disease and stroke."--
Here in the US people can eat what they want. They have a wide variety of foods from many countries available to them. The vegans who claim that not eating meat saves animal lives are wrong. It's common knowledge that animals die in the fields for their diet, too. And they ignore the environmental impact of shipping the fresh fruits, grains and veggies they eat year around from thousands of miles away.
IMO, veganism is dying. Here's the site of a former vegen who interviews well-known vegans as they revert back to meat eating. These are not kids, 12 year olds who didn't "do" veganism right. They're educated, young adults who fell into veganism, got sick and had to consume animal products for their body's sake. Frankly, the more I read, the less I believe most humans can live a healthy, successful life on the vegan diet.
http://letthemeatmeat.com/tagged/Ex-Vega鈥?/a>
And this lady is making big waves in the internet vegan community:
http://voraciouseats.com/2010/11/19/a-ve鈥?/a>|||I would hesitate to say that veganism needs to be argued against (it is an ethical position that takes animal suffering as a reason for not eating meat products--how is that possibly bad?) but rather adopted freely with caution. It requires much attention to getting all the adequate nutrients and this can be very difficult especially considering that veganism is a class-based eating culture that is almost exclusively upper middle class. Affording tempeh and seitan is not an option for many. Many vegans rely on extensive supplementation, powders etc. to make up the gaps in their diet.
By the same token, meat eating should be approached with caution, too, obviously.|||It is against the bible and you are only creating a larger population of animals that will overcome humans. With more herbivores it is likely there will be more carnivores. Carnivores like meat and humans are meat. Also with veganism haunters loose their jobs. Then the humane killing hunters use gets overcome by inhumane slaughter houses. So basically you guys trying to protect the animals gets them killed. Also when you guys don't eat animals people get mad and eat more.|||There are no reliable plant sources of B-12.
Vegans need to get supplements or eat artificially fortified food.
Contrary to popular belief on these boards, it is actually worse for the environment.
Runoff from fields has created a dead-zone the size of New Jersey in the Gulf of Mexico.
Farming crops destroys topsoil faster than it can be created, even with crop rotation and summer-fallowing.
It is not sustainable. Look up "Polyface Farm" for an example of a sustainable farm.
It does not feed more people. A diet containing some meat actually uses less land than a vegan diet. (Pastured cattle are kept on land unfit for farming crops: too sandy, hilly, rocky, etc.)
It's not healthier than a balanced omnivorous diet. The claims that it is compare vegans to "everyone else", and "everyone else" is usually eating crud. Just look in people's carts at the grocery store: full of processed food.
Seventh Day Adventists are always brought up as an example, but to make an equal comparison, you need to compare to someone with a very similar diet, only differing in meat. That would be the Mormons. And the Mormons are actually healthier than the Seventh Day Adventists.
Soy is actually unhealthy. The only soy humans should eat is fermented soy (tempeh, miso), not the tofu, soy milk, soy everything people eat.
Soy actually acts similar to estrogen in the body.
And a study by Dr. Lon R. White, a neuro-epidemiologist in Honolulu, concluded that eating tofu two or more times a week accelerates brain aging and diminishes cognitive ability. And soy isolfavones can block tyrosine kinase, an enzyme used by the area of the brain responsible for memory and learning.
This is a problem for everyone eating lots of soy; vegans, vegetarians, even omnivores. Soy, like HFCS, is being put it everything now days.
.|||- Doesn't support American industry
- Faulty because its damn near impossible to go without some kind of product that uses animal parts
- Millions of small creatures (rabbits, mice..) are killed by the harvesting of vegetables.
- It goes against natures intent. We have sharp teeth for tearing meat.
- It's dumb|||The only valid argument against veganism is that it is an extremely difficult lifestyle to adhere to completely.
You have to be very vigilant with everything you buy, from the shoes on your feet, to which cereal you buy even down to the soaps you wash with.|||We're humans, our bodies need meat. Arguments against are nothing more than an attempt to back up a hip trend.
I know how difficult it is for vegetarians and vegans to get a good meal when going out with friends. Some resturants don't even have salad! I think a petition should be started because vegetarianism and veganism is so popular now and if there are no meals to suit our needs, then I think that is just horrible.|||They are actually required by law to cater to any specific dietary requests- you don't NEED a petition!
I do however think that a WISE restaurant proprietor should definitely have at LEAST two vegetarian options and one vegan one as I even though I am a meat eater, I do have days when I just DON'T want to eat animal products at all and when you are limited to dubious salads as the only meat free dish at a 'restaurant' it's pretty off-putting!|||I think this really should be the case everywhere, not just in Australia. I doubt a petition will make any difference though, the likelihood of a law forcing restaurants to have such menu items is extremely unlikely. However, I would be surprised if you couldn't request something vegetarian. They might have something not on the menu, or make something without the meat. That is, unless it's say, a fast food joint.
I don't live in Australia, but I went to the Keg with my gf's family, which is a steakhouse that had absolutely NOTHING on the menu vegetarian. I had been to a different location that had a veggie burger but this one didn't have one, so I asked the server. Turned out they had some veggie mushroom fajitas they just don't put on the menu, so I got that. Maybe it is different in Australia, but I've yet to find a restaurant that wouldn't specially make something. Just ask. They want to make money, it's unlikely that they will not work with you.|||I think they should have a vegetarian/vegan section on the menu like they do in thai/indian places. (Even though the vegetarian meals at thai places contain fish sauce and shrimp paste, aka not vegetarian).
They have options for meat eaters so why shouldnt have have options of non-meat eaters.|||YES! 10% of the world claims to follow a vegetarian-type diet. I think a petition would be a great way to let restaurants know that vegetarians and vegans need options, too. I live in the United States (you know, that place that has supersize meals bigger than your head?) and a lot of restaurants don't have any vegan options and I have to customize dishes.|||there should atleast be a vegetarian option at every restaurant. vegan isn't as popular so i don't think it's as necessary, but it would be nice. i work at a restaurant and the only vegan/vegetarian food is a salad.:-(|||As a citizen I believe we citizen have right to petition.|||real silly that restaurants do not cater to vegetarians and vegans. restaurants would make a lot more money|||I don't think a petition would do much. Who would you present it to? And what would they care? - unless it was a guarantee that they would get all the signatories to come in and buy their food. If the petition doesn't translate into bums-on-seats, then it's a waste of time and money changing the menu. And vegetarians only make up around one in twenty Australians, so they're not a very big potential client猫le for a restaurant.
I've been to very few restaurants with absolutely nothing I could eat. Even if you can't find something on the menu, chefs will often make you something which is not there in black-and-white. You only have to ask - salads are quick and easy for chefs to put together - so much so that many don't even bother to put them on the menu. Alternatively, you can ask for one of the non-vegetarian menu items which is *almost* vegetarian "minus the bacon" or "minus the prawns" or minus whatever other ingredient it is that makes it non-vegetarian. It's normally as simple for the chef as leaving out mushrooms or peanuts or whatever for someone who is allergic. Just ask *nicely* and it shall be done for you. (If you ask in a pain-in-the-backside way, you risk getting something more than you asked for. So, always be nice to waiters and chefs, if you really don't want their saliva or other yucky things mixed in with your food - that advice works for non-vegetarians just as much as it does for vegetarians.)
Most restaurants have a copy of the menu on the front window, so you should be able to tell, before entering, whether there's something there you can eat. If there isn't, then just go to the next restaurant (luckily, restaurants normally travel in packs of three or four, for protection - heck, even the Maccas, KFCs, Red Roosters, Hungry Jacks, Subways, et al. are opening up next door to each other these days!).
I mean, I live in Manhattan. There are vegans everywhere in NYC. I have yet to see someone dying of veganism.|||The industry associations are very good at mis-education at all levels of schools and professional conferences. The tactics are well documented by many.
The best research I've seen to support a healthy vegan diet is by T. Colin Cambell in a book called 'The China Study." It's available online and free through Google books. It also explains how industry is able to mislead lay people and professionals alike.|||Well, short answer, because they're ignorant. :)
But to elaborate, I think most people don't really know a hell of a lot about nutrition. Especially in America, where a lot of people tend to rely on processed foods an awful lot & it's been ingrained in our brains all throughout grammar school that there are four basic food groups, and the meat group is where you get your protein, the dairy group is where you get calcium, etc. They don't tell you that protein is found in pretty much all plant foods (some more than others) and there are tons of plant sources for calcium. A lot of people think "Well, if I learned it in school, it must be right" and don't really go much further than that. There's also a huge emphasis on protein and dairy in America (like those ads professing that drinking cow's milk will help you lose weight...yeah, right). Your average omni actually consumes waaay more protein than they actually need, and of course it's mostly animal protein, so they wind up with heart attacks & strokes & such later on. Good for them. :)
I'm 32, have been vegetarian since I was 15, and vegan since I was 23, and I am so much healthier than most people my age that I know. Many of my friends (who actually...well, most of my friends are 5-7 years younger than me, there's only 1 who is closer to my age) are already having issues with high cholesterol or blood pressure and things like that. The only major health issues I've had have to do with foot injuries I had as a kid. I also look a lot younger. I almost always get carded, and anyone I'm out with only gets carded maybe half the time.|||Red lentils, chickpeas, and soy are terrific sources of both iron and protein. I think since switching to vegeterianism my protein and iron intake have increased, since it's now cheap.
According to the U.K. Vegan Society, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans and so these foods should not be relied upon as safe sources, as the B12 analogues can compete with B12 and inhibit metabolism. Also, vegan humans who eat only plant based foods must ordinarily take special care to supplement their diets accordingly. The only reliable vegan sources of B12 are foods fortified with B12 (including some soy products and some breakfast cereals), and B12 supplements.
Thanks to the guy below me - watch out for this!|||there's no vitamin B12 in a vegan diet. B12 is found in meat and it's crucial for proper brain function. A B12 deficient person can suffer from all sorts of nervous system anomalies ranging from mild memory loss to things like mania/psychosis, sclerosis, etc, so it can be pretty bad when you don't have enough B12.
Protein is also a big issue but these days, it's not really a problem. Lots of vegans can get their protein from tofu or beans or lentils.
if you're set on having a vegan diet, just take a B12 supplement and you'll be fine. It is an absolute must.|||I've never seen on somebodies death papers: "death by vegan"
You can die by not having enough of certain nutrients (eg: protein, vitamin B12), but you can't die from being a vegan.
Obviously, as a vegan if you watch what you eat and get enough protein, etc. then you'll probably live healthier and longer than most people.|||Because the meat and dairy industries spend millions of dollars in marketing telling the general public otherwise.
Can you believe some people really think that milk is the ONLY source of calcium?? Or that meat is the only way to get protein??|||Because any diet if not properly planned can kill you.|||Because they think meat, dairy, and eggs are food groups.|||Because vegan food terrorism pisses off so many people they will want to bash their heads to pulp.
Humans were not made to be vegan!|||IDk but maybe becuase since vegans dont eat meat . they dont have protein i guess you could say it shortens your life cause you need protein|||For the same reason some say that eating meat will kill you .|||probably cause of your intake on protein. some people think meat is the best source
I have recently made the decision to become vegan. I have all the research and my older sister is a vegetarian. Still, my parents do not really support our decisions. My sister is free from them being 25 and all, but I still have a lot to go through with them.
Can you tell me anything that will make my transition to veganism easier even with un-supportive parents??|||Don't get angry with them for not understanding - help them to see why you want to be a vegan! Make a list of facts that describe all the benefits of going vegan ( saving animals lives, this is a truthfully healthy choice, longer life...etc.)
Also it may help to show them sites such as meetyourmeat.com (especially if one of your main reasons for going vegan is because of animal cruelty).
Tell them (and then show them!) how just because you aren't going to be eating meat doesn't mean that you won't still get all the necessary proteins and amino acids that you need. (Rice and beans are a fabulous substitute for meat when it comes to nutrients).
Also you age may have something to do with it. I was 15 when I went vegetarian, so I was old enough that my parents (after I talked with them about it) felt I was responsible enough to handle my eating preferences.
Keep your cool and compile together a list of resources. Be like "mum, dad. I know you are having some doubts about me becoming vegan, but let me show why I want to become vegan and how I can still get the same benefits that I would normally get from meat/dairy." Be prepared to answer their questions - even their really obnoxious ones! lol
I wish you the best of luck and I know exactly what you're going through! :)|||Your parents should be concerned that you are getting proper nutrition from your vegan diet. If you can show them how you can plan your meals to get enough proteins and healthy fats and so forth then maybe they will be more willing to support you. Tell them you will prepare some vegan dishes for them to try. They might decide they like it too.|||Possibly refuse to eat meat no matter what, and after a while they'll get used to it and maybe you can live your lifestyle the way you want it =D|||This is child abuse! If you want to get healthy and your parents are at odds with you!|||Why would you want them to except your lifestyle? That would totally suck.
You should want them to accept your lifestyle.
If you cannot support your lifestyle, then you obviously should change your lifestyle until you can support the lifestyle you want. I mean it is common sense. Just be vegetarian for the time being or if they won't allow that, then wait till you move out then go full on vegan.|||Are they gonna hold you down and force you to ingest meat? Of course not.
It would be helpful to provide them with some information to show them you know how to eat healthily and inform them about the reasons for your choice-there are lots of great websites for this purpose.|||Because of the internet this generation is way ahead of your parents generation. You're much more educated about the harm meats can do to the animals and to us.
Treat them with respect and tell/show them what you know....as friends. Then I'm sure they'll listen to you.|||Move out. |||I can't say much more than what others have already suggested, but here are some of my thoughts.
1. Know in your heart you're doing the right thing (because you are) and don't change your ideals for anyone.
2. Keep your cool with him. Respect their feelings about it. You don't have to agree with them, but respect them.
3. Learn to cook! There is NO better way to convince someone that you're eating a healthy diet than by proving it to them through your cooking.
4. Get your facts straight. When they talk about protein, talk to them about beans and broccoli (they have just as much, if not more, protein than the same serving of meat). When they bring up Omega-3's, teach them about flax and hemp seed (flax and hemp have PLENTY of Omega-3 fatty acids). When they talk about cost, show them how our government subsidies are what actually keep beef costs low (a hamburger actually costs closer to $100 than it does $1). Etc, etc.
5. Be patient with them. I know it's frustrating, but they're older and come from a different time. The things they know about food and nutrition are mostly false. They've been lied to for decades and it'll be tough changing their minds.
6. Be a responsible vegan: Learn to cook, learn to shop, and learn about what you need do in order to be healthy (just because you're eating vegan bean burritos everyday doesn't mean your diet is good for you).
Hope this helped :)|||Just calmly explain to them why it is so important to you. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I don't think it is right to kill animals for selfish desires like a taste in my mouth. There are plenty of non animal foods that are readily available and better for your health' I mean how can you argue with that.
It took my parents awhile to get used to me being a vegetarian and when I told them I was vegan it didn't shock them. Because I made it very clear to them in the beginning my stand point on why I was choosing that lifestyle.
Hope I could help!|||why should you have to accept their life style ( eating dead animal flesh and dairy products) that has been shown to be unhealthy and dangerous??
you are taking responsibility for your long term health and and proper nutrition....by your example perhaps they will learn a healthy life style and be around for a long time....
Pleaaase state your religion (or lack thereof) for this survey!!|||Vegetarians are ok, but vegans are not healthy, you can't be. You need proteins that neither you nor plants can create.|||Christian. I'mmmm a vegan.|||my religion is to be the best you can to yourself, and to others. i'm vegan because i think the best thing i can do to the animals, is to not eat them, but help them :)|||I'm a Christian vegan.|||Hello, my name is Sarah and i am 14 years old. I am a christian, and i think Veganism is amazing. I am Vegetarian and soon to be Vegan. I think that Veganism is a good choice for a healthy and environmental lifestyle. You can get protein from Hemp Seeds, whole grain, nuts, beans, and many other things. Veganism is a great thing.|||whatever, let people do as they like I'm a catholic vegetarian ever since I went to the highly agricultural provinces of my country and cried at a farm were they kept boars and cows and chickens because I felt so guilty of taking the lives they had all the right in the world to live-but, im not going to speak about those who chose to eat meat or any other products derived from animals--as for me i keep eating dairy because I need my calcium plus, What else would all those milk cows do if they werent giving milk to us, just stand around there I guess?? anyhow, I don't eat anything that walks, slides, swims, flies or breathes through a nose just because i feel like it.|||Atheist.
Vegan-ism - When followed properly - is a healthy alternative diet for those who wish to rid themselves of a dependence on animal proteins.
There are many great recipes and in the summer - a wonderful selection of foods ot chose from.
I eat fish, veggies, fruits and nuts. Because I include fish in my diet and buy products that are made using animal based glues (composition books, sneakers, commercial packaging tapes and sealants etc.) I definitely cannot be considered "Vegan".
I do however respect the people who work so diligently to live that life.
On the other hand I get annoyed at the people who claim to be vegan but still use the aforementioned products.
It takes a lot of effort for a person to be truly Vegan and you should not take credit or include yourself in that particular group if you are not dedicated to it.
Thanks for asking my opinion.|||LDS aka: Mormon aka: Christian. I want to be a Vegan.
My grandpa was a farmer and he says that God put animals here to serve man. My grandpa on the other side is a vegetarian. Both grandpas are accepting of both views.|||I don't follow under a certain religion because all religions have little things that defer them form one another, and no one knows which one is correct. Only God knows. Anywayz, I love God and I've let Jesus (His son who sacrificed himself for us to live) into my heart. I pray for guidance and strength when I need help. I also pray when I ask for God's forgiveness, as like everyone does, I sin, but God knows I try very hard to not sin and be the best person I can be. And I'm vegan. I feel it is very healthy, as long as you have a well rounded diet and get all the vitamins you need to stay healthy. I do it for my own health and of course for the animals, which we have taken for granted, instead of working with them and loving them. Just like humans, they are sacred and we are all here on this Earth for a purpose and need to work together, not kill one another. That's just the way I see it.
Good question and hope I helped.
And sorry for the babbling ahaha.|||Atheist. I have been moving in that direction partly from an environmental point of view and partly because the farmers markets are providing such variety that I consider my support of local growers to be a political action against corporatism, the bane of humanity.|||Agnostic - and I think veganism is great!|||agnostic, vegan, and I believe that a living soul should be considered property or used for profit.
Edit: for those choosing to be vegan dont get rid of all your non vegan things (make up, wool coats, leather belts) There is a difference between believing in what you do and being wasteful.|||Veganism is good.
I'm not bloody religious... !|||I am vegan, is is the closest to a moral society that we can be unless we detach from society- agnostic|||Atheist. Vegan.|||Its baaaaad... You need meat, and dairy and stuff. Everyone i know that is a vegan, is soooo weak, and honestly pathetic.|||I am a Christian and God has given us meat to eat and He even mentions it in the bible.
Acts 9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
14"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."
15The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
16This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.|||animals were put on earth for man to eat so i say NOM NOM NOM NOM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM CHICKEN AND STEAK AND FISH AND WHATEVER ELSE NOM NOM NOM vegeans are not healthy btw and if its for the animals well animals eat animals how can we stop them hmmmm? are we going to make every lion a nice glass of grass juice ? no its ok to eat meat and vegetarian is ok but vegan is just not healthy you need dairy and protien and other stuffs to function properly
Fruits/Veggies - You're getting the nutrients from Earth second hand (eating a source that processes it directly)
Clean Animals (beef, fish, poultry, mutton) - Getting nutrients third-hand (eating the thing that eats the thing that processes the nutrients)
Unclean Animals - fourth-hand nutrients (eating the animals that eat the animals that eat the things that process the nutrients)
That's the basis of the Biblical dietary laws. Fruits/Veggies are ideal. But as far as meats, it's not just because God decided that some animals were unclean. It's practical advice as well. Get your nutrition as directly as possible. Don't eat the predators, and don't eat the garbage cans.|||Good answer Report Abuse
|||Does it really matter what you eat as long as you get the nourishment you need?
I eat meat and I eat vegetables and that should be good enough for everybody.
As for veganism I don't mind it and I actually admire vegans for their discipline; I can't imagine eating nothing but non-animal product for the rest of MY existence.
The only thing I don't like about some vegans is if they are who they are simply because they think humans are monsters for eating other animals for food. They say meat-eaters are disrespectful of living things; what are they doing? Are plants not living things as well? So why are they eaten?
Are lions and cheetahs and other carnivores monsters because they feed on the flesh of other animals? NO and that answer should apply to humans as well; lions are being lions, cheetahs are being cheetahs and we are just being ourselves.
Also I should add that if it weren't for the consumption of meat products the human race would never have survived the Ice Age when most plant life perished.
So yeah follow whatever diet you want; just do it for the right reasons.|||Meat-eaters eat too much meat to be healthy.
Veganism and vegetarianism are not how we are supposed to be. Humans are meant to eat meat.
However, considering we have access to lots of meat nowadays, we eat too much being meat eaters. Eating no meat is healthier than eating too much meat. Thus, being a vegan or a vegetarian is the healthier option.
Neither have the higher moral ground, for animals are killed in both process. In fact, more small land mammals are killed in the process of providing specialist foods for vegans and vegetarians, and also habitats for animals are destroyed in this process too (which does not happen in the process of providing food for meat eaters).
More vegans and vegetarians = more demand for vegetables and specialist foods = more animals killed and more habitats destroyed (so animals can never live there again. Ever.).
So neither is more moral than the other - but being a vegan or vegetarian is healthier.|||Health-wise, I don't think you get all the nutrients your body needs from just eating fruits and vegetables (veganism). Although, I also don't suggest eating red meat. Fish is much preferable, and chicken, too. We also need to drink milk. So, there should be a good combination of fresh fruits and juices, fresh vegetables, almonds and walnuts, oatmeal, white meat (fish/chicken) eggs, and fresh milk/yogurt. And these you should eat religiously!|||You can eat vegans, but I think that's cannabalism....just kidding. I know eating people is a big taboo for most cultures.
Although that brings me to my point. I think that most people are speciest and will place higher value on species that are closer to human than not. For example, cows (being a mammal) will have a higher value than an ear of corn ( a plant)...making it harder for them to be willing to consume said cow, morally.
If your philosophy however, is that everything has an equal value spiritually, Doesn't an ear of corn deserve the same respect given to a cow, or a human? If you think about it like that, you might not want to eat at all. Or you might go the opposite direction and realize that since you have to eat to live, you might as well just eat anything, since spiritually everything has the same value.
|||If one is an omnivore by nature, which is what we are, (we have teeth and a digestive system system for booth meat and veggies) then forcing yourself to not eat meat is not natural. Saying that killing animals for food is somehow wrong (a sin?) is just fanatic and denies reason.
Danielle seems to be a level headed person and even nice, but Eskimos, who have been around a few thousand years, may dissagree with her.|||im a vegetarian of 17 years
eating meat is part of nature, we are all food for soemthing else, but i just dont want to be part of it myself, but i dont expect anyone else to change, my boyf is a ravenous meat eater,
i dont know much about veganisim, but i often wonder exactly what they do eat, and whether they care that nuts and seeds are part of plants, part of life, its still eating another being, just one that we dont understand of consider a being,
for me the fact is, if you were to not want to eat any living thing, you would be dead, because there is very little in this life that isnt from some sort of living being, be it animals or plants|||Meat is so delicious. I dont think I could live the rest of my life without eating another ham and turkey sandwich, or never again tasting bacon. So for those vegans, good for you. I'll stop eating animals when they tell me they don't want to be eaten.|||Meat eaters devour vegetarians.
Vegetarians don't devour meat eaters.
Odor eaters devour odors.
Meat eaters devour shoes plus odors plus vegans.
Humans devour the meat eaters,the vegans.
The cooking techniques the real issue.|||I'm an omnivore, so I'm going to eat like an omnivore.
Pandas are omnivores who adopted the vegan lifestyle, how's that working out?|||I'm a vegetarian.Why?
Not sure who(religion) you are addressing|||You think eating meat is bad? Vegans are eating all the plants. That's no better. Just because it doesn't have eyes or a mouth doesn't mean it's any different.|||Veginismus has nothing to do with meat-eating.|||I think vegans eat to sustain life just as meat eaters do. To each his own.|||Both are living beings|||Whatever you like. I'll eat veggies if they're fried.|||I eat both meat and vegans|||I don't eat anything with a face|||to each his own
I just recently went from vegetarian to vegan and I am 121 pounds and I am curious about the weight loss. I don't want to lose too much weight but I am unsure if vegans even do lose weight. I exercise regularly and eat properly.
Also would taking a multivitamin be enough for my body as a vegan?|||it really depends on your diet before and if you really have much weight to loose.
i run cross country and march tuba, and i lost five pounds if that.
i definitely wouldn't be worried about loosing too much weight there are plenty of ways to keep the weight on, whether that involves healthy or unhealthy fats :)
i try to get all my vitamins from foods, but having a multivitamin is just something nice to have if you can't eat as healthy as you'd like for a couple days, but if you eat a pretty healthy diet the vitamin really isn't even necessary. with the exception of B12 which is in many breakfast foods, like cereal, oatmeal, and granola bars.|||if you feel that you are losing weight on vegan diet, just adjust your calorie intake, increase it by 200 calories. you dont need to change anything as far as exercising because being active is good for you. you can take multivitamin and make sure you are getting enough B12 and iron. artichokes is high in calcium thats also good for you. i've been vegan for a few months now and im losing weight slowly.|||Well, seeing as you're 121 lbs., how much weight do you really have to lose?
It depends on how much dairy you ate when you weren't vegan. If you were an ice cream or cheese junkie, I'd think you would lose a few pounds. You'll be way healthier, but you may not lose as much weight as you'd expect.
I'd suggest you that you do take a multivitamin, just to make sure you get all your vitamins.|||This answer has been selected as best answer for more than seven times by asker (yahoo answer) for weight loss.
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Do you consider alcohol ok in a vegan diet? Or is veganism also concerned with maintaining a sober lifestyle?|||Much alcohol ( probably >80% ) is not suitable for Vegans.
It would be really interesting to see where those that said "its ok" got thier info from, i'd like to correct the source of those errors.
There are some that are filtered and use vegetable finings. These tend to be clearly marked.
Veganism is not to do with being sober - certainly not the ones i know !|||Alcohol is fine in a vegan diet.|||That is a personal choice, but alcohol is vegan most of the time so it fits in a vegan diet.|||Healthy eating is not the same thing as being an ascetic. Red wine is very healthy. People who drink more moderately鈥攁 glass of wine at dinner, for example鈥攈ave a lower incidence of heart disease and tend to live longer than those who are teetotalers, completely abstain from alcohol.|||A lot of straight edge people are vegan. Most vegan people are not straight edge.
As long as you don't get plastered regularly, you aren't hurting the spread of veganism.
There is a connection between moderate or occasional alcohol consumption and reduced risk of suffering from dementia later in life.|||Some breweries,wineries and distillers use animal products-mainly for filtering and clarifying. There are websites where you can find out what brands are vegan, though.|||yes alcolol is on a vegatarian diet, wine , grapes, vodka and pine nuts is gin. and you can make your own using fruts (pinapple,marricino cherries, watermellon, cranberys poke holes and has to stand for 3 months the others can just take a week!) PLUSS YOU HAVE TO ADD SUGAR!!!, kasza|||Veganism has nothing to do with drinking or not drinking. My boyfriend is a Vegan and still drinks.|||Alcohol is fine on a vegan diet, but I don't think its okay to over do it vegan or not.|||Alcohol comes from fruit, rice, potatoes, corn.... plants. Never heard of Bovine Alcohol...|||I think there are some vegan wines and beers -- I've seen them at some vegan websites. I'm hardly an expert, though, since I do not personally drink (for reasons that aren't related to veganism).|||there are no animal products in beer or other alcoholic beverages that i know of. and peta proved that beer has more nutrients than milk,and causes less health problems-hence their 'got beer?' campaign.|||A lot of types of alcohol are filtered using animal products (fish bladders, if I remember correctly). If a vegan person is uninformed, they might drink these un-vegan types of alcohol. However, if a vegan person can find a kind of alcohol that is animal-friendly, they should feel free to drink it.
Being vegan and abstaining from alcohol do not necessarily go hand in hand.
Based on what I have read, vegetarianism/veganism is NOT a diet but a lifestyle choice based on respect for animals. That if one abstains from meat for health reasons, but would eat it if it was not for the fat and cholesterol then they are not a vegetarian, but one who eats a vegetarian diet. Likewise if some one is too poor to purchase meats, but would gladly do so if they had the money (this is true for many in the third world) then they are not a vegetarian.
If we accept the above is true would it also be fair to say that when a vegetarian claims her toddler son is a vegan/vegetarian, then her statement is equally false? If a four year old is only given vegetarian food, the child has not made a choice. He can only become a vegetarian upon being offered meat and deciding not to eat it. Agree, disagree?|||Who's parents would be so inconsiderate of their child's feelings? I would be supper ticked off if someone forced me to eat meat! This child is a vegetarian. If one is too poor to afford meat I wouldn't classify him/her as vegetarian. This person doesn't have the frame of mind of a vegetarian. If given the option to eat meat he/she would. I also wouldn't consider a 4 year old a vegetarian because at such a young age a choice hasn't been made. Being a vegetarian is a choice and frame of mind. It isn't an issue of circumstance.|||I believe the argument you are making is whether or not "intent" to be vegetarian is enough if one has no control over the "non-veggie" forces in his/her life?
If that is what you arguing--- I would say "Yes".
Good questions and will likely prove the black & white fanatics on here some trouble. It will be interesting to see how "Free Range Mikey" (Mike H.) weighs in on this one....LMAO.|||i would say yes|||I agree... I think that in a situation like that the teenager should be considered a vegetarian! And it's sad because it is true that some parents are like that... we've seen kids here complaining about it!|||technically a vegetarian is one who does not eat any meat of any kind, so no, even if he wants to be a veggie more than anything he still isnt one. for example, if youve always wanted to try and fly by jumping off a building but your parents dont let you then you still arent a bird.
i have no idea where that example came from but you get the idea|||Not all vegetarians embrace the lifestyle, some just don't eat meat and it can be a diet. Some really don't care about animals. I read about a celebrity who ate a vegetarian diet, but used real mink for her false eye lashes.
The guy in the ship wreck could still claim to be a vegetarian. After all, is it fair to refer to those people who were in the plane crash that had to stay alive by eating other people as cannibals or don't they resume being omnivores (assuming they are/weren't vegetarians) when the ordeal was over? If the people too poor to buy meat do eat meat when possible then no they aren't but if they never eat meat then yes they are vegetarians or vegans. The teen girl is, sadly, not a vegetarian. The child is still a vegetarian whether he chooses or not if he doesn't consume any meat.|||So...having a vegetarian diet does NOT make you a vegetarian? You must have the intent to be a vegetarian as well? And, intent ALONE is enough to make you a vegetarian???
This is really interesting. I don't know the answer, but you've smarked my interest in finding out.|||Anything you eat is a part of your diet so vegetarianism IS a diet and a lifestyle. Vegetarianism can be adopted as a lifestyle for several other reasons besides the respect for animals. The definition for the term says nothing about choice.
If a four year old child is fed meat and eats it, you are saying that he is not an omnivore because he was not given the choice?? Silly.|||I mean if they don't want to eat meat, and their parents make them eat it.. that would be a passatarian,,,,,,, or a doormataterian ,, I think,,
and yes the sodatarian diet, gave me nothing but hemorrhoids,
I just stopped eating all together, so now what am I Wolfy? huh?
OK,, I am still drinking my red bull
I am a caffeterian,,,,,,lol|||I was an atheist from the age of 8. I was forced to go to church on Sundays and attend a christian school until I was 17 years old. Was I a christian because I was forced to adopt the traditions of a belief system that wasn't mine?
If you define being veg*n as a belief system then it doesn't matter that the veg*n is forced to eat meat. What matters is if they resist and how they resist. Your hypothetical teenager is obviously trying to resist as much as they can reasonably be expected to, so they are a veg*n.
Maybe he will end up like most teenagers and get a job at MacDonalds. Then he can afford to buy vegetarian food.|||You are a vegetarian is you do not eat meat, fish, poultry nor slaughter by-products.
There is no need to make it any more complicated than that.
If you eat meat, no matter how, you are not vegetarian.
As for all the hypothetical extremes scenarios, they don't prove or tell us anything.
eg: Would you sleep with a stranger for $1
No, how about $1,000, or $1M, or $100M
If you end up saying yes to some random super-large figure, does that make you a prostitute ?
Do you stop becoming a prostitute if the offer is withdrawn, or do you remain a prostitute but just with a very high charge ?
See, non of it helps in any way.
As for the 10 year veggie, eat fish, 10 year veggie. What would be wrong with saying "I started being veggie 20 years a go but ate fish once 10 years ago when i was trapped". Its the truth, why wrap it up.
A couple of examples on intent:
If i intent to kill someone but never actually get around to it because I'm too busy, am i still a murderer because of the intent ?
and the second:
I intented to be a good person but i actually killed 50 people. Does that still make me a good person because i "intended" it that way.
and a third
"we didnt intend to kill 250,000 iraqs"
Does that mean we didn't kill them, i don't think so.
Intent is not enough
Very little of what you say makes sense and if you are trying to make a point you would be better off doing it directly rather than these hypothetical situations
Why do you keep using phrases like "universal say yes", "presumably", "if we accept", "assuming thats right/you agree"......you've just gone down a hole without taking us with you. we might disagree with your very first assumption and then the rest falls apart
A "4 year old child who is fed only veggy" is an omnivore that is fed a vegetarian diet. humans are not carnivores, omnivores or herbivores depending on our diet. Humans are all omnivores. C, O and H are species categories of diet, not food choices.|||Your original question is sort of awkward. Unless his parents hold a gun to his head, HE makes the choice what he eats. (And even with the gun I would refuse to eat a dead animal part)
The four year old is a vegetarian. You have a serious problem with setting up status quos fairly. I could just as easily say that a child raised eating meat has not made the CHOICE to eat meat, and is therefore not a meat eater.
Secondly, the guy eating fish would still be a vegetarian. The definition of vegan and vegetarian is someone who excludes animal products (or just meat) from their lifestyle WHENEVER possible. If the dude was going to die unless he ate fish, most would agree that that is a situation where it's NOT possible, if he wishes to live.
You're a meat eater, no???
I'm 28, I have a BA in communication and I'd really LOVE a job that encompasses my two passions in life... God and veganism.
Any suggestions?
|||It's a tough combo, but you might become a freelance writer for Christian and vegan/vegetarian magazines, or for other pubications in these areas. With a little research, you might find some publications that combine your interests. For example, there is actually a magazine called The Fit Christian (link below).
Good luck!|||Start your own vegan restaurant or health shop. menus could have inspirational / spiritual quotes incorporate health & faith without being over the top. Offer Creative, gourmet tasty menu items an excellent juice bar supplement & literature buy or receive complementary, calm & relaxing ambiance and first class service. You have you degree in communications so you wont have a problem organizing yourself and getting the word out. eventually you can cater church events business functions etc or start the other way out seek out small catering jobs. Use your church as a network to get jobs and then expand into a restaurant.|||I suggest you rethink your desire. Passions in life should be just that...a passions you can enjoy. You would not want to reduce your passions to a daily hum-drum. A job can be enjoyed, definitely. But separating things in life leads to a fully life. A job that does not conflict with you passions would allow your passions to grow and flourish.
I hope this makes sense. I have similar passions and have worked jobs around those passions. I am now most happy enjoying my passions on one hand, enjoying my work on the other.||| Choosing a career is one of the most critical decisions you can make in your lifetime. My son needed guidance with his career choices in recent times, so he tried the site in the box below, which has some sensible tips and tricks on career decision-making. It certainly hit the spot for him because he now is aware of exactly what he wants, and more importantly what he needs to do to get there!|||Your career shouldn't be affected by God and veganism...it should just be something that you yourself like...eh, I guess you seem to like God and veganism
In which case...let me think
The jobs in which you can be close to God are
Nunnery...
Oh, no Pope, sorry...Guys only.
Nunnery...Nuns...did I mention Sisters?
Lets check out veganism...
Veggie restaurant/cafe
|||ummm...communications..u could do alot with that. try going intot he theatre/director/producer industry, theres alot of people that need God there, and just dont eat meat..?
also go into like sales and marketting, you talk to people non stop and theres always a chance to slip in some preaching
or you could simply become a pastor or a missionary. then just dont eat meat and communicate allllll day|||I suggest that you start a winery. What better can you get than Jesus's choice drink, and Fruits put together with the hard work of growing. Now a communication degree could fit somewhere in there because you will attract a lot of wealthy wine connoisseurs who need your services of what best fits them.|||I am a Recruiter/Sponsor for GDI. I am seeking motivated individuals like yourself from the comfort of your home online. You can make up to $2000 in your first month. Please feel free to visit my website to get more valuable information. We are 100% legit and listed with the BBB. It is 100% free to start! What are you waiting for? Go now:
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|||1. God is a made up being by old world people to try and explain what they didn't know.
2. Humans have fangs. They were meant to eat meat with. Without supplements, vegans would die.
3. Career has nothing to do with religion and eating habits.|||What does your religion or eating preference have to do with a career? No one dictates to you what you eat at a job and religion should never be brought into the workplace.|||you're not going to find a job that has anything to do with both, together. carry your vegan lunch to your job in a church.|||My mother is christian so am I. My mother owns a pre school and my aunt is a hotel manager but I don't think you'd want to do that. You can volunteer in a foster home.Or become a foster mother|||I would say you can pretty much eat what you want at any job and quite often your boss wont mind if you have a bible in your office.|||nutritionist, missionary
pharmisist
school nurse (christian school)
family relationship expert
guidance cousellor|||a cafeteria worker at a Christan school|||A reality TV show contestant, because you sound quite whimsical.|||Barefoot & Pregnant|||Food prep worker / cook in a vegan restaurant near a church
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i am both too, but im tall
I'm 15 and I have been a vegetarian for a while and I thought about becoming 100% vegan recently. I heard that it's a healthier alternative to meat-eating and lacto-ovo vegetarianism. What are the benefits than I can get from veganism?|||Being a vegetarian or Vegan is MUCH healthier!
To prove veganism is much better, here are some facts:
Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat meat daily compared to less than once a week: 3.8 times
For women who eat eggs daily compared to once a week: 2.8 times
For women who eat butter and cheese 2-4 times a week: 3.25 times
Increased risk of fatal ovarian cancer for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week vs. less than once a week: 3 times
Increased risk of fatal prostate cancer for men who consume meat, cheese, eggs and milk daily vs. sparingly or not at all: 3.6 times
Average U.S. man's risk of death from heart attack: 50 percent
Risk of average U.S. man who eats no meat: 15 percent
Risk of average U.S. man who eats no meat, dairy or eggs: 4 percent
Amount you reduce risk of heart attack if you reduce consumption of meat, dairy and eggs by 10 percent: 9 percent
Amount you reduce risk of heart attack if you reduce consumption by 50 percent: 45 percent
Amount you reduce risk if you eliminate meat, dairy and eggs from your diet: 90 percent
Average cholesterol level of people eating meat-centered-diet: 210 mg/dl
Chance of dying from heart disease if you are male and your blood cholesterol level is 210 mg/dl: greater than 50 percent
Cow's milk is the number one allergic food in this country. It has been well documented as a cause in diarrhea, cramps, bloating, gas, gastrointestinal bleeding, iron-deficiency anemia, skin rashes, atherosclerosis, and acne. It is the primary cause of recurrent ear infections in children. It has also been linked to insulin dependent diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, infertility, and leukemia.
The best reason of all to become vegan is knowing that you are saving animal and human lives. The video "Through Glass Walls" on meat.org will show you what you are eating/drinking when not vegan. Knowing you are not supporting this by being vegan is worth it in every way. You save human lives because with the amount of grains it takes to feed an animal for human consumption, you could feed 5 times as many people by feeding the people the grains directly which is also much healthier for them.
As far as health benefits again though, more cancer has been proven to be caused by meat than cigarettes. A factory farm for pigs was also where the swine flu started...due to people eating the meat. Bird flu also came from eating poultry.
Here is just some of the evidence to show that veganism is in fact healthier:)|||I have been vegan for 8 years and am perfectly healthy. I went vegan to save animals which is a good reason. It is also healthy when done properly because there is no cholesterol and it is a pretty low fat diet. You get a lot of vegetables, fiber, and whole grains which are important. Not only is it healthy for yourself it is also good for the animals and the environment. I find it pretty easy to go out to eat and to shop at the store. Many stores have a lot of vegan options and I love to cook so I do not mind preparing meals. I believe a vegan diet is very healthy just make sure you get all the nutrients you need just like with any diet. So the benefits are it is a low fat/good fat diet, good for you, the animals, and the environment, no cholesterol or all that bad stuff from animal products. Also, it is very easy to be vegan so that's a benefit! And the greatest benefit of all is you get to save animals' lives. That is what makes it worth it to me.|||A vegan diet is the healthiest type of vegetarian diet, because eggs and dairy are high in fat and cholesterol.
With that being said, both diets are healthy, if planned properly.
The downside to being a vegan is that it is not convenient.
You will have to cook most of your meals, because most restaurants and grocery stores don't accomodate vegans.
You can get all of your nutrients your body needs through a vegan diet.
The key is to look up foods that are high in protein, iron, calcium, vitamin b12, zinc, etc. and you'll be fine.
Fruits, vegetables, legumes, pasta, cereal, rice or soymilk, and imitation meats are great for a vegan diet.
Ener-g egg replacer can be used for baking. Agave nectar is an alternative to honey. Scrambled tofu is an alternative to eggs. Amy's Kitchen makes a great vegan macaroni & cheese t.v. dinner. They sell it at some whole food stores/health food markets. For holidays, Tofurky dinner roast and Morningstar Farms vegan riblets are good.|||It's healthy (contrary to the opinions of the ignorant and unresearched).
It's natural (we're all born vegan - we just become accustomed to eating animals and their nasty by-products).
You won't be consuming pus, blood, flesh or urine (some of the above mentioned 'nasty' parts).
Being vegan is better for the animals.
Being vegan is better for the planet.
:)|||Honestly, I was vegetarian for 8 yrs, vegan for 6months. There wasn't much I could eat so I pretty much wasn't eating. During sports practice I passed out, and threw up a lot. Talk to your doctor before you do it. Make sure you have a protein/iron source. I was so anemic that I was forced to start eating meat again, as soon as the doctor says its okay I'm going back to vegetarianism. I hate the taste of meat. Make sure you do it right or there won't be any benefits. You need your vitamins.|||Best reasons - Healthier life, to save animals and to help save the environment.
Benefits - Healthier life, less chance of getting several diseases, healthier skin and more energy.|||If you're the type who puts animals' needs above those of human beings, then you'll just continue the cycle. Not much of a benefit there.|||their is no benefit you need meat to help your body
Not currently. One source is from 2003, but I don't think things have changed. Here's what WIC currently has at their site regarding substitutions:
http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/benefitsands鈥?/a>|||WIC will not allow you to substitute the cheese for vegan cheese, that is correct. You cannot substitute the eggs. You can substitute the milk with skim, not soy. You can substitute the peanut butter for beans.
I disagree with part of what Tracey said. WIC allows soy infant formula for lactose intolerant babies.
You maybe able to get a friend (not legal or allowed, so do not tell anyone) to trade you for the eggs, milk and cheese. Good luck!|||they don't know anything about veganism|||i am not positive .. but i used to work at a grocery store and i am pretty sure----i think they do let certain things be interchangeable however, you must discuss it with them ahead of time and have it printed on your check prior to going to the store with it.|||Support in what sense?
You can use WIC to buy the needed groceries. If that's what you mean?
Check out the website for details: http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/
Repost.... Oh... Okay I get your question now.
You won't be able to substitute. Not to sound like a conspiracy theory nut, but I think the farmer's have a strong lobby where you're locked into the standard foods.|||Absolutely not. I am on WIC and have been for about a year. My son is 6 months old, and currently on a lactose free soy formula. That is the only version of veganism they will support. They only allow to to buy items specifically printed on the WIC checks, and all of them are either dairy or dairy based, and they will not accept substitutes. They won't even think about it lol.
However, in California, there is a proposed change in the toddler package that does include fresh fruits and vegetables, as well as a soy check that can be used for either tofu or soy milk. It has not been passed, but it's a near future possibility.|||WIC provides food that is in the best interest of the baby. If you don't agree with what they give, don't sign up. It's not mandatory that you take food from the government.|||This is according to their website:
"Currently, soy and rice-based beverages are not approved substitutes for cow鈥檚 milk in the WIC food package. All milks authorized in the WIC Program must meet the Food and Drug Administration鈥檚 standard of identity for milk. Soy and rice beverages do not."
And... "only cheese is an acceptable substitute for milk."
They allow other substitutions only if a participant is allergic to certain foods. I'm sure, though, that there are plenty of vegan foods on the approved list in every state. You'll need to call your nearest WIC office to get the approved list.|||not really.....this is a gov program therefore only totally supportive of mass brainwashed industry.....diary industry and mass produced cheap eggs
i am on WIC program and only pick and choose what i want to use on the coupons
not to say that the dieticians at the clinics are not supportive of a veggie lifestyle but many are not and have been brainwashed into believing that we need diary to be healthy|||WIC will not allow you to substitute the cheese for vegan cheese, if that is what you are asking. If you are allergic to milk, they will let you get soy milk.|||http://www.frac.org/html/news/newWICpack鈥?/a>
They don't allow substitutions, but they're working on updating the vouchers. The above is from August of last year. You can see the link to the actual record on that site, but it was a good summary.
Hopefully the other proposed changes are implemented.
The new plan actually reduces allowances for egg and dairy, and adds a soy milk/tofu category.
So far, I've seen the Farmers market portion enabled. Many vendors are WIC approved, so you can buy fresh produce from them via WIC.
I've met none. So weird that this protein deficiency thing is such a problem (according to people who have never researched veganism) yet I haven't met a single vegan with a protein deficiency. Maybe I'm just meeting the lucky ones. ;)|||It is extremely easy to get adequate protein on a vegan diet and very rare for protein deficiencies to occur in places where people have access to a variety of plant foods. Protein deficiencies occur primarily in places where people don't have much access to food and they don't eat much variety (for example, they only eat rice).|||Notice how you ignored my personal experience and went with someone who accept your narrow view which also has been give no sources, only anecdotal evidence... Report Abuse
|||Yes you have met the lucky ones...the ones who live in the West where food choices never farther than the nearest grocery and are not a daily struggle for survival.. I have met many people with protein deficiency.. they too live on a " vegan" diet not because they choose to but because there is nothing else to eat.. It was on the local news last week that 8 family members of an indigenous tribe died after eating wild yams.. the yams are edible but only if properly cooked.. a local feeding program started supplementing the diet of the surviving younger children with a milk formula and the rest with meat (mainly fish and chicken) and rice
By the way, you cannot physically tell if a person has protein deficiency unless it is severe as in concentration camp/POW camp severe..|||None that i am aware of.|||None. As long as you are a proper vegan who has a well balanced diet there is no reason to have protein deficiency.|||The only people who develop protein deficiencies are people who live in poor countries and anorexics. An anorexic chimed in and someone mentioned the third world country.|||haha thats a really good point. no i never met anyone with a protein deficiency.
people with PROTEIN deficiency have kwashiorkor its easy to identify they have bloated stomachs from edema. i don't think anyone in usa or europe has had that in 250 years.|||Um, little girl, you may not meet people with protein deficiencies in the western world because we have one of the richest soil and our diets consist of a variety of foods. But Protein deficiency is a serious cause of ill health and death in developing countries. It is extremely rare to meet one most especially in the U.S. or Canada. Protein deficiency plays a part in the disease kwashiorkor, an acute form of childhood protein-energy malnutrition characterized by edema, irritability, anorexia, ulcerating dermatoses, and an enlarged liver with fatty infiltrates. War, famine, overpopulation and other factors can increase rates of malnutrition and protein deficiency. Protein deficiency can lead to reduced intelligence or mental retardation, see deficiency in proteins, fats, carbohydrates.
In countries that suffer from widespread protein deficiency, food is generally full of plant fibers, which makes adequate energy and protein consumption very difficult[citation needed]. Protein deficiency is generally caused by lack of total food energy, making it an issue of not getting food in total. Symptoms of kwashiorkor include apathy, diarrhoea, inactivity, failure to grow, flaky skin, fatty liver, and edema of the belly and legs. This edema is explained by the normal functioning of proteins in fluid balance and lipoprotein transport.
Moringa trees are known to overcome protein deficiency in developing countries as the leaves and other parts of the tree contain comparably to soy bean high amount of crude proteins and amino acids.
http://www.nutrition-partner.com/index.c鈥?/a>
Dr. Latham, director of the Program in International Nutrition at Cornell University claims that malnutrition is a frequent cause of death and disease in third world countries. Protein-energy malnutrition (PEM) affects 500 million people and kills 10 million annually!!!! Does this not sound like a lot to you!!! In severe cases white blood cell numbers decline and the ability of leukocytes to fight infection decreases.|||The experienced vegans I've met were all so thin, and seemed to get shorter and more hunched much quicker with age.|||Ummm... Me...
So you fail.
When i went vegetarian it failed because i ended up with a protein and iron deficiency.
I am seriously considering relocating from the midwest (Milwaukee) to some other part of the country. I'm looking for a place that's got a decent punk scene and lots of folks into the enviroment/animal rights/veganism. I also like doing "natural stuff" such as camping, hiking, biking, etc. I tend to gravitate towards the weather that's found either on the west coast, northwest coast or the west, but I'm open to pretty much anywhere. I'm looking for a place that's got decent public transportation or a good bike community, since the cost of driving is getting crazy. Being able to find a decent job and reasonable housing would also help! Hopefully, some place like this exists. I have spent my entire life here and I'm looking for a change!|||Without a doubt if you can't make it to Glasgow Scotland, then move to Ocean Beach in San Diego. As far as the vegan/animal rights/ stuff goes, there is no better place, san diego is an awesome place, I lived there for five years and am in the process of trying to relocate back there myself, Everyone in san diego says that "O-beacians", are on a totally different wavelink than most other communities, everyone is really laid back, it's animal friendly and Newport Avenue has some of the best bars I've ever been too, the punk scene in SD rocks, check out the Confederats, my brother in law's band, there great.
This girl was put on a strict vegan diet, and ended up with a degenerative bone disease that left her with the spine of an 80 year old:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk鈥?/a>
I understand the philosophy of veganism, and I am interested, BUT people do come first. How could this girl's diet have been structured safely and still be considered vegan?|||She didn't end up with rickets because she was vegan, she ended up with rickets because her parents didn't bother to see to her vitamin D intake. There's a big difference.
The American Dietitic Association and the Dietitians of Canada agree that a properly planned vegan diet is appropriate for ALL life stages, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence.
It's the reponsibility of all parents to make sure that their children are getting the nutrition they need, regardless of the diet they've chosen for their families. A few isolated cases of malnutrition splashed all over the media should not constitute an indictment for a dietary plan that nutrition experts approve of. What the general public never hears about is the thousands of perfectly healthy vegan kids. I know four vegan kids personally ranging from 3-14; their parents are informed and responsible and the kids are happy, healthy and thriving.
I don't know all of the details of this particular case so I don't know if there were deficiencies beyond vitamin D, but that's all that was covered in the story. In that case, since she lived in Glasgow, which is too far north to get the necessary sunshine to form vitamin D most of the year, her parents could have added fortified foods or a supplement to her diet. Note that dairy products do NOT naturally have vitamin D. Rickets used to be a common problem. Vitamin D and calcium work best in conjunction and government officials needed a vehicle for getting sufficient vitamin D into children's diet, so they chose milk because it already had the calcium and most children drink it regularly. There's no reason, knowing those facts, that a vegan child drinking fortified plant milk would be any different than an omnivore child drinking fortified animal milk.|||I have a 4 year vegan old girl who started walking at 9 1/2 months. She was breast feed until she was 19 months. She can walk nearly five miles. She has better than average dexterity and balance than her peers. She does not want to be carried or go places in the car. She wants to walk or go on bikes. We are very aware of what she eats. We have talked with her doctor about her diet.
There are 1000's of cases of malnutrition of children that eat meat.
Do you think formula is good for infants?
What parents that feed their children McDonald's and fried foods everyday?
The simple fact is you are not comfortable with my lifestyle because you are ignorant of it.
Have you ever posted on the fact that in the USA that over 50% of the population is overweight?
Are concerned that this major health concern is now effecting children and infants?
I doubt that you post on these facts.
Are you aware of any other cases besides the one you site here? These cases are very rare. A good parent takes the time to make sure their child(ren) get what they need. Stay out of my life.|||I have two children who are 19 months old, and almost 3 yrs old, and they have eaten a WELL PLANNED vegan diet since birth. They are very healthy, and on target for growth, and other milestones, and are by no means under nurished. Their pediatrician (who is a meat eater)said that are children are eatting a perfectly healthy diet, and are not deficient in any areas.
Situations like the one you sited happen because some parents (whether they are vegan or meat-eaters) do not take the time to plan a healthy diet for their children, and make sure they are getting all of the nutrients they need. For example, a few years ago a five year old boy developed scurvy because his parents allowed him to eat a diet of pizza and pop tarts. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0鈥?/a>
The girl you mentioned could have gotten vitamin D by just spending some time in the sunshine, or from fortified soy or rice milks, or from a vitamin suppliment.|||This a what you would all neglect. They had been around the girl for the past 12 years, it should be pretty easy to see that she "had the spine of an 80-year old". Why was nothing done until now?
Like someone said, when an omni child develops a severe deficiency it's called malnutrition. When a vegan child gets sick o dies, they just call it veganism and everyone talks about how right they are to not be "normal".
The girl had rickets caused by lack of vitamin D. How stupid is that? You can make your own just by being in the sun and there are countless fortified foods that can offer it.
Sorry, this article has nothing to do with vegan diets and everything to do with sh!tty parenting.|||A well-balanced vegan diet is completely safe for children.
http://www.vegansociety.com/people/lifes鈥?/a>
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/kids.htm
The girl in this article suffered from rickets, a condition that is caused by a lack of vitamin D. The main source of vitamin D for all humans (vegan, vegetarian, or omnivore) is the sun. Not fish liver, THE SUN. Very few foods actually contain vitamin D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18088鈥?/a>
In areas such as Scotland (where this girl lives) many people do not get enough sun exposure to make sufficient amounts of vitamin D. For this reason cows milk is often fortified with vitamin D. Vegans do not drink cows milk; however, there are many other fortified vegan products available such as margarine and non-dairy milks. If fortified cows milk is an acceptable dietary source of vitamin D, then it follows that fortified soy milk is also an acceptable source. Fortified foods provide most of the vitamin D in the American diet.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15585鈥?/a>
Ruling out the possibility of a genetic condition which prevents vitamin D absorption, the fact that this girl developed rickets may be a result of bad parenting BUT it is not a result of a vegan diet.
Vegan parents, just like other parents have a responsibility to ensure that their children eat well and get all the nutrients they need. And, yes... in this case it appears the poor child's parents failed to do this. However, the majority of vegan parents are careful to ensure their children eat a healthy diet.
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/real鈥?/a>
To keep things in perspective: There are many more omnivore children with diet related health issues than vegan children. You only need to look at the rising statistics of obese children worldwide. I wonder how many of those children are vegan?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/articl鈥?/a>|||it is difficult, if not impossible for children to grow in a normal and healthy manner when following a vegan diet. they simply cant get enough nutrients. even with supplements, diets that are vegan are extremely dangerous for young children
in my opinion, children should be fed well rounded diets that are healthy, and then be allowed to make their own choices later when it is safe to cut out meat and animal products. its not fair for a parent to subject their child to poor growth and ill health because of their stance on animal rights (what about human rights ???)
I'm a vegan. And I think that people have the ultimate descision on what they eat, but why would someone choose fruitarianism over veganism? I mean veganism is 100% animal-free, so why would people want to just eat fruit, nuts, and seeds? Is it one of the healthiest diets or something?|||Unfortunately, eating only fruits is lacking a lot of essential vitamins, so being a vegan is good enough. Some say they don't want the vegetables to suffer pain while being grown and pulled out. Fruits are grown from plants so it's basically the same. In the food chain, living things suffer pain. To answer your question, it is less healthy as you can still get carbohydrates easier as a vegan than as a fruititarian. I hope I helped, I recommend staying with veganism.|||not true. fruits have everything u need. but u will probably experience major detox symptoms. ride them out. ur on ur way to amazing health and regeneration. read Arnold Ehret rational fasting, it's free on google books Report Abuse
|||because they believe that taking the leafs hurts the plants (& taking the roots kills the plants), but the fruit was designed to fall of the plant & spread the seeds. i know some very healthy fruitarians ( see link below). richard blackman in particular is a fruitarian fitness coach. fruitarianism is a sub branch of raw foodism which recognises that cooking food kills the living enzymes in the fruits & vegetables.|||Most of the people that follow a frugivore diet long-term do so for spiritual reasons. Some Buddhist sects, for instance, believe that to take any form of life is morally incorrect, so the only moral method of subsistence is to consume only fruit that has already fallen.
There are some people that also believe it's a pure diet free of toxins, but I think we all know only eating fruit, nuts and seeds is a bad idea, health-wise.|||Veganism allows for the eating of cooked foods, fruitarianism lends itself more to raw foodism. Raw foodists believe that the enzymes of food are destroyed if heated so eat only raw or dehydrated foods. From my experience, fruitarians are not only seeking vegan food, but raw food also. There is much information on the net about raw food, search for Victoria Boutenko, David Wolfe and Kevin Gianni.|||Fruitarians usually avoid vegetables because harvesting vegetables kills the plant. Harvesting fruits doesn't kill the plant. They also avoid cooked foods because heating food kills many healthy nutrients.
Others are striving for the diet of Adam and Eve. Have you ever heard the quote "And God said, 鈥淏ehold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food."? Every seed-bearing plant is fruit. So many fruitarians believe that is what they should be eating.|||Because they are concerned about hurting plants. :3|||tastes better
Or would they cast aside their pathetic facade in favor of self-preservation?
Veganism is only able to exist because of the non-sentience of plants. Think about that. If animals were our only source of food, would people give a damn about eating meat?
In other words, Veganism exists because it is convenient.
If such a declaration was made about planet sentience, how long do you think it would take for the vegan movement to crumble?|||well it has been proven by history that most people will compromise their standards in order to survive.
It is against most people's principles to eat family members and friends - however the survivors of the plane crash in the Andes resorted to eating the human flesh of the deceased in order to survive.
What a strange way for you to point out an understandable human contradiction.
Under what circumstances would you starve to death?|||Vegan's only exists because the society/technology we have today allows for it to occur on a large scale without health risks.
The fact that without companies producing food items from fungi (Like Quorn) you will find many people would get sick or have reduced healthiness due to the lack of vital components such as protein which is not found in large quantities within plants.
Not to mention the amount of food you need to eat in order to attain the daily amount of energy will have to be high. Look at all the animals that eat plants only, they spend almost all of their day just eating because plants only provide small amounts of energy. It would be the same for people without the supplements they are able to take and when people eat a lot of plants they can have stomach pains and diarrhoea.
Basically if you put them on an island or God forbid the world got messed up somehow and we revert back to the dark ages they will be jumping right back on meat in no time.|||Maybe ethical vegans would, but I'm a vegan for health purposes, and if they were proven to be as alive as animals, it really wouldn't change their nutritional numbers. I still don't get people who hate vegetarians and vegans- why would it bother you? Go eat a steak and try to focus on something else. Better yet, focus your hatred towards Justin Bieber.|||I'm not a vegan, and I don't think I ever could be, but I do know that people who are vegans have a host of different reasons for choosing their diet. Some do it for health reasons, some are concerned with the environment and sustainability.
I also don't think that veganism is "convenient" in any sense of the word. Again, I don't think I could do it. It would narrow my choice of restaurants. It would change the way I travel, shop, and socialize.
I'm not pro-veganism by any means. I could really give a sh&t how other people eat. You clearly care a great deal, though. I wonder why.|||The line separating plants from animals, and the sentient from the non-sentient is a pretty nebulous boundary. They would probably fall back on that old, "anything without a face" designation. So that means, if I should suffer a serious accident or cancer, and my face becomes horribly disfigured... !|||Vegans actually already give up their principles to an extent. Any time you buy tofu, corn, wheat, whatever from a grocery store, you contribute to animal death.
Ever seen a combine harvester? Look it up on google images. Its basically a bigass tractor with a bunch of blades on it. Want to guess what happens any time a cute little bunny rabbit family is caught up in those blades? I'll give you a hint:it dies.
Also, to make room for that grocery store, a forest had to be cut down, and because of that, many animals died because they lost their habitat. Deer, foxes, bears, birds, wolves, all sorts of beautiful animals.
If someone eats nothing but beef, at least they aren't killing any rabbits. Which would you rather have die?
these:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2146鈥?/a>
http://www.eglobe1.com/word/wp-content/i鈥?/a>
or these
http://co2calculator.files.wordpress.com鈥?/a>
http://calvinscl.files.wordpress.com/200鈥?/a>|||I guess members of peta would just keep on eating their own feces in a never ending cycle of self righteousness.|||It would take exactly 30.7 days before they would all give in.|||They could always eat dirt; it's full of minerals.|||One could only hope.
India,and I'm proud to be an Indian because of this. :)|||There are no vegans in India. Indians do not practice veganism. Veganism was invented in the West. Some Indians may live on a vegan diet but they are not vegans.
The country with the most outbreak of vegans per capita is the UK with an estimated 1-2% of the population calling themselves vegan. The US only has less than 1% of the population calling themselves vegan.
And many so called vegans switch back and forth anyway as the fads dictate.|||I always thought it was England. India has a huge population of vegetarians, but not vegans.|||Uranus|||India..|||Probably India since they're all Hindu.|||Don't feed trolls. Reported.|||whichever is the most intelligent|||Don't reply to the troll, report him.
I am wondering what kinds of chemicals and pesticides are used in the production of red meat. I am researching, for schoo, how vegetarianism/veganism effects the environment. I already red meat know is fairly unhealthy, but how much more unhealthy is it with the chemicals used during/after the production of the meat, and how much/many of the chemicals make it to the finished product on my dinner table?|||carbon monoxide, for one....
carbon monoxide is a poison that restricts the body's ability to absorb oxygen into the bloodstream. carbon monoxide can even kill someone if they get too much of it at once.
it is used to keep meat from looking spoiled. if you take a piece of meat that has been treated with carbon monoxide and one that hasn't, the one that has been treated with the chemical will look fresh long after the other has turned green. gross to think that people eat meat that would be spoiled and green without chemicals injected into it, isn't it??
Only people that have experience with veganism to answer. What are the health benefits to becoming vegan. Please include: mental, emotional, physical, sexual, etc.|||I have been a vegan from a year ago.
I'm so satisfied with my body and emotion right now.
Actually, I am satisfied with everyday!|||As for mental/emotional, I think I would definitely consider it positive. You could know that you are not causing any suffering, etc. and should be much happier with yourself. Physically, it would depend on how well you manage your diet. It can have health benefits, such as lower heart disease, lower cholesterol, less chemicals ingested from the meats, and stuff like that. But if you do it wrong, it could cause health problems. You have to be careful to be sure and get all of your vitamins and such, or it could be a bad thing. As for sexual, it is often hard to find means of a birth control system in the way of veganism, considering almost all medicines are required to be tested on animals and most pills have a form of animal products in them. But if you are able to control your diet that much, your sex drive shouldn't be too hard to control.|||you can lose a lot of weight. if you not careful you can end up being underweight.
Ok I want to go Vegan. Soy Milk is fine i prefer it. My problem is cheese to soy cheese. Because soy cheese is actually disgusting. Does anyone know a decent type of soy cheese in the UK or is it all the same. I had Pure SOYa cheese which just tastes like clay :S is it a thing I will have to face? or is there nice soy cheese in the UK? :S|||I agree, Pure Soya cheese is disgusting.
Try the Redwoods Cheezly varieties; you can get them in Holland & Barrett or other health food shops, and some supermarkets - Waitrose and Tesco certanly - stock the cheddar version.
Or you can order them online from Redwoods. The melting ones really do melt and they aren't a bad substitute. They've recently introduced a non-soya cheese too.
http://redwoodfoods.co.uk/index.php?page鈥?/a>|||omg the worst soy cheese ever is in amys soy macncheese its literally green gray.
anyway on this website
http://www.cosmosveganshoppe.com/Merchan鈥?/a>
u can c some good vegan cheeses like
"Sheese" Vegan Cheese Alternative By Bute Island Foods
Price: $6.95
Parma Zaan Sprinkles By Vegetarian Express
Price: $6.95
Parma! Vegan Parmesan
Price: $4.99
i guess look 4 these 2 parmesans n
sheese in mozzarella n medium cheddar at whole foods.
the most expensive tend to be best.
food that has the Vegan symbol or Kosher symbol n no fish ingredients no dairy is vegan.
or just look 4 these.
Bute Island Foods Sheese
Chicago Soydairy Teese
Daiya
Dr. Cow Tree Nut Cheese
Follow Your Heart Vegan Gourmet
Galaxy Vegan Cheese
Rella Good Cheese VeganRella
Tofutti Soy Cheese Slices
VBites Cheezly
Wayfare We Can't Say It's Cheese
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=jz鈥?/a>
or just 4get about cheese haha.
thats all gluck.|||haha! different from cheese, soy cheese is for be eat together soy souce or mixed with cereal and fruits (choose blueberry, banana, strawberry, chocolate, one of these). not to be eat pure! and have many kinds of soy cheese. i dont know if is the same at your country (many types of soy cheese) but where i live, in japan, its very popular food. and you can eat/put together soy soup too, is nice. try it!:)
you can also check recipes that use soy cheese ;)|||Cheezly ~ you can get lots of different types (chedder, edam etc) Doesn't exactly taste like cheese (do they ever?!) but it's not bad and I know a few non-vegans who eat it because they like it. It took me a while to find a cheese alternative that I actually liked, too.
Don't give up hope, just keep trying, there might be a vegan cheese you like yet :)|||Personally I have never tried a soy cheese that I enjoyed. My advise would be to learn to cook very well. Here is a website that tells you how to make your own soy cheese at home. I bet you could do some fun things with this recipe (add herbs and spices etc)
http://truespies.org/torleymanor/2008/01鈥?/a>
I've been vegetarian for a little while now but would like to make the switch to veganism! Does anybody have any tips for what to eat, wear, etc? Thanks!|||It's really not hard at all!!
I'm vegan and have been so for more than a year, you'll
be surprised how good you feel.
Be sure to get enough protein (my meals are generally
based around protein, whether it be from beans, tofu or
some other source) and be aware of animal products in
food! Know of suffixes and prefixes to watch out for. It's
easy once you get the hang of it, and I have an app on my
phone that lists a lot of ingredients to look out for.
Wear: well, just wear things that don't have suede/leather/silk, etc.
There are several brands that have organic/recyclable materials for
clothing and even though you don't NEED to buy them, as a vegan
I have found myself buying a lot of clothes with those materials.
If I think of any other advice I'll edit this, or you can always message me :)|||wikipedia has information on veganism at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism
vegetarian author john robbins,the man who wrote the ground breaking book "diet for a new america" and other books on vegetarianism has a website on the life and work of vegetarian author john robbins plus other resources at http://www.johnrobbins.info
also try people for the ethical treatment of animals at http://www.peta.org
the friends of animals at http://www.friendsofanimals.org
and vegan world order at http://www.veganworldorder.com
you can also use the phrase "vegan clothing & accessories"
in the search box of amazon at http://www.amazon.com
for vegan recipes try The One Word A Search Idea with words such as: quick, easy, raw, protein, breakfast, fruit, snack, lunch, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, greens, grains, lentils, legumes, dinner, casserole, souffle, soy, tofu, dessert,and smoothie in the search box of vegetarian times at http://www.vegetariantimes.com
[also click onto the vegan box]
and also try the vegan website veg web at http://vegweb.com
for information on the vegan and vegetarian restaurants in and
around the area where you live go to happy cow at http://www.happycow.net|||If it's something you believe in and feel strongly about, it's easy.
I went vegan in November and it was the best thing I ever did, despite not having support from most of my friends and family.
My best tip is to make your own foods as much as possible. Almost everything that's packaged contains animal products. I've even seen lactose in one brand of potato chips (to make them more "creamy" apparently).
Check out the website below for some great recipes and tips.|||The first couple of months are hard, after that its pretty much plain sailing. Ordering in restaurants and travel can be a pain though.
I'm considering going vegan, and I need some motivation, I am already a vegetarian, so I dont need you to tell me about vegetarianism, just veganism. Thanks!
If you could also, it would be great if you could give me some links to sites for vegan teens.|||2 main things are eggs and dairy. So I'll just focus on these two things, otherwise it'll be too long. But there is a whole lot more.
Because dairy production places massive environmental stresses on the planet. Each dairy cow produces 28,000L of waste water per cow per year (dairy shed effluent management guidelines Aust). This waste water comes from processing, runnoff, urine, yard and equipment washdown, plate cooling. It is a rather conservative estimate too, since it doesn't include the water required for feed or crop irrigation, or the water consumed by each head of cattle.
Cows produce between 250 to 500L of methane per cow per day (journal of animal science). Methane is a green house gas that contributes to global warming. Methane is also 23 times more potent than carbon dioxide. (new york times)
Dairy production requires waste lagoons for storing large volumes of untreated excrement and liquid waste. This waste has the potential to run off and pollute streams, ground water, soil, plants ect.
Also milk contributes to unnecessary death and suffering. Just like humans cows only lactate a few months after birth. For cows to produce a constant supply of milk they must be continually artificially inseminated and give birth. Their babies are taken away from them soon after they are born. If they are male they will be trapped in veal crates, fed an anaemic diet and confined in darkness and eventually killed. If they are female they will go on to also be dairy cows (or more correctly milk machines). This separation causes distress to both mother and calf. Drinking milk supports the veal industry. Cows are also pumped with hormones and antibiotics to increase milk production. This often leads to mastitius, a painful infection of the udders. Constant milk production leaches calcium from cow's bones leaving them eventually lame or crippled. Milk is produced to nourish calves, not human. We are essentially stealing nutrients from baby animals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr-EyIaXA鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_u鈥?/a>
That鈥檚 just dairy. (I did a research project on the environmental impacts of dairy farming which I would be happy to share with you)
Egg laying hens are tortured, debeaked, force moulted, crammed with between 4 and 12 other birds, stacked in crates, thrown, covered in one another鈥檚 excrement, suffer from painful cuts and lacerations due to sharp wire cages, male chicks are killed and considered an industry waste product, they have less than an A4 piece of paper in which to live, they never see the light of day, and are never allowed to exhibit natural behaviour.
(battery hens living conditions)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_R5sGHI鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8Q7ZN1I鈥?/a>|||Hello Beth :)
I found some sites on why you should go vegan - it has to do with animals, environment and your health
http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/why_鈥?/a>
http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/who_鈥?/a>
http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/p鈥?/a>
Oh and read this
http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Vegan
It gives you some tips and warnings :)
I hope I helped
Good luck and I support your idea!|||the benefits for the animals are that some of them won't be killed for you. (Though the more vegans, the less animals are actually bred, so you've stopped a life before it started rather than end a life)
The benfits for you are that you will never risk an Iron overdose. Aside from that, I think it's all negative.|||Animals:
Going vegan is a powerful way to oppose the cruelties in the egg and dairy industries. An egg-laying hen must spend over 24 hours confined to a tiny battery cage in order to produce just one egg. Even on "free range" farms, the hens are slaughtered after one or two years and the male chicks are killed, usually by suffocation or being thrown into grinders. So you would prevent SO much suffering by not eating eggs! You also wouldn't contribute to the veal industry. (Dairy farms have no use for the male calves born to dairy cows, so they send the calves to veal farms.)
Health:
Vegan diets are cholesterol-free since cholesterol is only found in animal products like meat, eggs, and dairy. I found it easier to lose weight after I went vegan. I rarely get sick and generally have a lot of energy.
Environment:
A completely plant-based diet is more efficient than one that includes animal products. It doesn't require as much land, food, energy, or water. A major report by the University of Chicago in 2006 found that adopting a vegan diet has a greater impact in the fight against global warming than switching to a hybrid car does.
http://www.goveg.com/environment-wycd-fo鈥?/a>
Hope this helps!|||Well...it's pretty much for the same reasons i.e. about cruelty-free lifestyle, for the welfare of animals, for our environment through reduction of resources, and for health reason as animal fats and proteins have been linked to heart disease, colon and lung cancer, osteoporosis, diabetes, kidney disease, hypertension, obesity, and a number of other debilitating conditions. Cows' milk contains ideal amounts of fat and protein for young calves, but far too much for humans.
Hope this answers your question.
God bless:)|||for you, there are certain nutrional things that are in meat that you need, for animals, of course they get to live, the environment because the animals not eaten each have a job to do in our world, but not eating them can cause an overpopulation of one specific speices. hope i helped.
nellie|||There are ups and downs for it, as there is with all diets. But for the animals and environment there are virtually none. Whatever you don't, eat others will.|||I guess you wouldn't have to worry about guys hitting on you all the time. Wouldn't have to worry about shaving your legs or having children.|||goveg.com
they have recipes, facts, benfits and so forth about veganism
Congrats on your choice!|||If the animals had voices they would thank you for it! =)|||For one thing, you're not killing animals. And whoever says that you're killing as life before it has begun is ridiculous. IF the animal was actually born it would have a 95% chance of suffering it's entire life solely for the purpose of human pleasure.
Now, I'm not sure about what minerals your body is being deprived of if you were to become vegan, but saying that there is no substitute for meat/the human body cannot thrive off of meat is completely bogus and just an excuse for those who don't want to turn vegan/vegetarian. Now I'm not saying that all human omnivours all think like that, you just shouldn't be doubtful that there is no way for you to substitute for meat. One example is tofu/any other soybean products. If I'm not mistaken, that should be one solution to substituting meat.
Finally and probably most importantly, hormones in meat have been heavily linked to breast cancer in women and I have no doubt any other cancer as well. The way farms inject chemicals into their animals and treat them, it's not surprising. Bottom line: red meat is SO BAD for you! Don't eat it! Also, milk comes from cows, right? Milk also has heavy amounts of hormones in it. Veganism will eliminate that nasty milk from your diet. (Again, soy milk is a good substitute.)
Now that I have shared with you everything I believe about veganism in general, may I make one CHEATING suggestion? I suggest you eat fish. If you live strictly off of soy you'll be getting your body what it needs but if soy is too hard for you, I would highly consider eating fish. You hear all this stuff about mercury poison and I don't doubt it's true, but eating a healthy does of wild fish regularly is quite good for you.
The final thing that you'll want to consider about vegetarianism/veganism is that you feel great! It's hard in the beginning but after you stick with it, you'll realize that you don't miss meat and that you'll love the feeling so much. It's kinda like aftre a good session of yoga if you've ever taken one, you feel MARVELOUS! I hope this helped you in some way. Like I said, I'm no expert with mineral deficiencies and what the body needs medically speaking, I just know what it feels like to be a non-meat/dairy eater. I don't regret it at all!
Given the way way *some* vegans treat their lifestyle as if it was a holy doctrine, yes. Though maybe a more philosophy driven religion than a deity driven one.|||no. religion= belief in or reverence for a supernatural power. veganism can be a component of religion but not a religion itself.|||a religion is the belief of a higher power.
what higher power is there in veganism?|||No in itself. It is a dietary choice. It can be based in religious practices on not harming animals or on whole body beliefs.|||Yep...|||no
I'm doing research about vegetarianism for a workshop at the local community centre and I need more information about this lifestyle. I'd also like to know what veganism is and how it differs from vegetarianism. A few website resources would be great!|||Vegetarians don't eat meat. Vegans don't eat meat and don't bother to bathe.|||Use the Yahoo search engine and just type in vegan. You will find everything you want to know.|||Pure vegans, as mentioned, have nothing to do with animal products. Vegetarians don't eat meat, but will eat dairy, eggs, things that didn't require harm to the animal to get. A few will eat fish, but then their choice of food is more for health reasons than philosophy.
I understand vegetarians, but true vegans always seemed to me to be overdoing it. We have cows, they need to be milked. And we are omnivores, after all. I can understand being against anything requiring the slaughter of animals, but cheese and eggs? Nevertheless, that's their choice.|||Here are several links that should be helpful:
lowcalories.blogspot.com
intuitivefred888.blogspot.com
indyhumes.blogspot.com
gscookingblog.blogspot.com
thephilosophycafe.blogspot.com
lifeisbeautym.blogspot.com
my-healthy-eating.blogspot.com
adwin-kianhui.blogspot.com
meadvilleveggie.blogspot.com
slashmaraud.blogspot.com
foodminds.blogspot.com
callendamornen.blogspot.com
kin-jay.blogspot.com
mercurior.blogspot.com
masanobutaniguchi.blogspot.com|||Vegetarians will eat products derived from animals; i.e. milk, eggs, etc...
Vegans want nothing to do with anything that exploits animals, so no milk, eggs, etc... Also some vegans refuse honey though not all do refrain.|||Vegetarians don't eat meat, either for health reasons, or because of a limited understanding of animla rights implications.
Vegans don't consume meat, eggs, dairy, or anything containing animal products, like gelatin, whey, or casein. Veans don鈥檛 wear leather, fur, or wool, buy products from companies that conduct non-required animal toxicity tests:
http://www.caringconsumer.com/pdfs/compa鈥?/a>
Or frequent zoos, rodeos, circuses, or other places where animals are held in captivity or forced to perform.|||http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetariani鈥?/a>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism|||they dont eat cheese|||Vegan, no animal products at all.
No honey, because bees die making it.
Beer is OK, even though yeast is actually micro animals who die making it.
Vegetarians come in various shades.
Some eat eggs and milk, some not.
Some "vegetarians" eat a fish now and then
because it's a "lower animal".
Some will eat your turkey because it's polite or practical., but are strict at home.|||"Veganism may be defined as a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as possible and practical, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.
In dietary terms it refers to the practice of dispensing with *all* animal products - including meat, fish, poultry, eggs, animal milks, honey, and their derivatives.
Vegetarianism includes veganism and is defined as the practice of not eating meat, poultry or fish or their by-products, with or without the use of dairy products or eggs.
Often broken down further into OVO-LACTO, and LACTO. Vegetarians may or may not try and minimize their non food use of animals like vegans.
Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian: same as VEGAN (see right), but also eats eggs and milk products. This is the most 'popular' form of Vegetarianism in many Western countries..
Lacto Vegetarian: Same as VEGAN, but also eats milk products.
Veggie -- Shortened nick-name for a VEGETARIAN; often includes VEGANs.
Strict vegetarian: originally meant vegan, now can mean vegan or vegetarian."|||Vegans are higher on the retardation spectrum.
Tuesday, March 6, 2012
I have been slowly weaning myself of meat and dairy for about a 6 weeks now, and as of this week have decided to go 100% how long till I notice the great things associated with veganism, e.g. clear skin and eyes, glowing complexion, more energy, weightloss etc? and how long till other things subside while my body is adjusting to my new diet, e.g. gassiness, stronger body odour, sleeplessness, cravings for old stuff etc?? thankyou for sharing your experiences if possible :)|||Great question!
You know, I started the new "blood type diet" which for me, means vegetarian and/or (no pork, beef and chicken)....within a few days I noticed a CHANGE in my body odor and bowels. I had LESS body odor and LESS SMELL in my bowels. Within 2-3 days. I couldn't believe it!
I eat fish (cod, salmon, snapper) and since my intestines are not SLOWED DOWN by pork, beef and chicken SLOWLY moving through my intestines and fermenting/rotting, there is LESS ODOR. I am very happy and pleased.
However, it has been about 2-weeks now and I see no change in my complexion yet, however this may be cosmetic. (I'm still working on it).|||Never|||It will take time to adjust because you will be riding your body of lots of toxins.
Give it about 3 months minimum and if you dont start to see big changes after that then you is probably deficient in something.|||My partner and I have been vegans now for almost 4 months, he has lots loads and loads of weight, his hair is growing fast and looks healthier. I on the other hand, haven't lost any weight, I think I may have added a few pounds, my skin still isn't clear and I don't look like the image of health.
Clear skin isn't just diet related, but hormal.
Clear eyes....depends on the person I guess. Mine are always reddish from hours of using the computer lately :S
Glowing compleion might happen, but a good run would do it too.
More engery might take some time, as you may go through a burst of energy the first few days and then a down fall, and then build more energy again.
Weightloss depends on the person, I didn't have ANY to lose, and my partner had some....so he lost some, and I gained (I think) from eating more oils (I cover everything in olive oil, yum).
I'm still gassy, and doubt this will go away, as I am generally a gassy person, although it isn't foul smelling. The cravings will go away once the meat enzymes leave your body...maybe a month of so? Body odor will change quickly, depending on what you eat. I eat loads of garlic and find I sometimes smell of garlic, hehe. Same happens with spices. Sleeplessness I can't help you with, as there are so many reasons one might not sleep at night, I battle with it.
I hope this gives you an idea of what to expect (and what not to expect). Veganism isn't a miracle diet. Being a vegan doesn't make your compleion flawless and bouding with energy, but it can HELP those things.
:D|||I think you are being a bit too eager! If you shift from one eating habit to another without taking into consideration those nutrients that your body may lack later on, you may get to see worst things as far as your health is concerned. I am not saying that vegan diet is not good, but only that you need to be well-prepared to follow it. After all, this lifestyle has more benefits than disadvantages if you take certain things into consideration. In fact the good results you mentioned are true, but you need to know your deficiencies first, which if you don't pay attention to may well make you lose hope quickly than you may think.
Refer to this website for better notion of deficiencies in vegans.|||Ever see Super Size Me? It took 8 weeks of a strict vegan diet to reverse the damage Morgan Suprlock did to his liver. It took almost 2 years of healthy eating (although not vegan) to get back to his starting weight.|||i wouldn't know i never suffered those problems.|||why would you want to go vegan? you only live once... eat some meat!|||Never. Veganism is a trick by anrachists who want to destroy a vital part of our world's economy!
I really want my family and friends to be healthy and live long, happy lives. I get passionate about veganism and living healthy-I just need to know where that line is, so that I don't cross it and become over whelming.|||Educating is when they ask or willingly listen to what you have to say..
Forcing you beliefs is when express your opinion when not asked and you insist they live their lives according to what you want
Education is a two way street.. "teachers" and "students" willingly listen to each other.. Ask yourself, are you willing to be educated by those whose belief system is different from yours? If you cannot extend that courtesy to them, you have no right to expect some in return. Also, an important part of education is a open mind and a willingness to accept that you may be wrong. Are you open to the idea that al your beliefs can or may be wrong?|||I am the same, if anyone brings up my "Crazy vegan ideas", i get into a heated lecture about animal cruelty and human health. I mean, eating meat supports starvation in Africa, i mean, how could anyone eat a steak with that on their conscience?|||Just stick to facts about veganism rather than say they are wrong. I tell people trying to lose weight that vegetarians/vegans seldom have weight problems, for example.|||If they ask,your educating.
If you tell them about slaughterhouses in the middle of their stake dinner,your preaching.
I used to constantly try to get my family to open their eyes to suffering, but they either didnt care, or had a go at me for ruining their appetite,so I gave up.
Other people ask me about veganism, and are disgusted by the answer I give them.
People handle thinks differently.If they want to be kept in the dark,let them, its not your job to shatter their allusions. You'll still have peace of mind|||I've found that my family are starting to ask more questions about the health benefits of being vegan. I've never pushed anything to them about animals & cruelty because I know they would just get upset or defensive & it wouldn't change their ideas. However, they are very interested in the health benefits. They always mention how healthy I look and they are now buying soy milk.|||This is a good question that I wish more people would ask. I am a vegetarian who was eating once with friends and a girl came up and started going on about them serving meat and how disgusted she was. (she failed to notice I hadn't put meat on my plate) and she went on and on about factory farming....information that spoiled my appetite even without meat on my plate....the moral? Be respectful which you sound like you are trying to do so good job to you. I would love to be vegan someday. Unfortunately I can't make that work right now due to eating from a dining hall most nights. That doesn't mean that I am uneducated either.
The good news is that people can live healthy long lives with and without meat or animal products. If they don't ask, don't tell. If they do want to know about your lifestyle, you can tell them about what you DO eat rather than why you don't eat meat. Have them take a taste of some of your awesome veggie burgers and try those great tasting chickenless nuggets...and who can resist a tofu stirfry?|||Frankly, I find that the answer to your question isn't determined by you, but instead by your audience. It's highly subjective. You can say the same thing with the same amount of passion (or lack thereof) and so on and so forth, and one person will think you're just sharing who you are with them but another person will think you're shoving your beliefs down their throats (no pun intended).
Anyway, so different people will always react according to their nature rather than according to what you say or how you say it. The line you seek is so difficult to find because it constantly moves around.
My best advice would be to pay close attention to them and how they react to small things. Get a feel for your audience and work with that. Maybe see if you can get them to ask the questions you want to give the answers for.
LOL, yeah I know this is kinda vague, but it always is with us humans. We're all so different. A trick I notice my therapist using sometimes is she'll respond to something I say with "Sounds like you..." "Must make you feel like...". Fill in the blanks with whatever sounds good. These sort of statements prompt elaboration from people and help to make them feel understood, which might make them more open to things you have to say.|||In this case, it's whether they ask or not. If someone asks (and isn't just making conversation), and you answer, you are educating them. If someone does not ask, you are definitely forcing your beliefs on them. If you suspect they only asked to be polite, chances are they'll think you're forcing your beliefs on them.
Another vital component is whether you listen to/accept their reasons for eating meat. If you're not accepting their reasoning, even if you think it's stupid/wrong/bad, you are not "educating."|||I'm not vegetarian, but not wanting to hurt animals is just an excuse. People hurt animals by building houses, plowing fields. Even our electricity comes at the expense of animal lives. Vegans say you can live without meat, and apparantly that's true, but you can also survive without houses and electricity. People did it for centuries, living in either tents or caves. And yet, how many vegans are going to give up their houses or their electricity. The reason is because they enjoy them. Just like they claim we meat eaters get enjoyment at the expense of animal lives, they too get enjoyment at the expense of animal lives. If they truly believed what they are saying, they should have not only given up on meat, but on houses and electricity, and even health care as well.|||How's that saying go "you get more bee's with honey than vinegar"
The metaphorical line that your speaking of is : When "they" (the relatives on Thanksgiving)
Start asking you questions about being vegan/veggie. Just answer....period. don't elaborate,or put in your opinion...a brief response is all that's needed.
That's just how you deal with people "ribbing you" and keeping yourself "guarded"
You quote unquote "cross the line" when you start sharing your opinion . Just answer the question, don't give out any opinion on you eating diffrences, let them ask.
I lead by example. When I go places they say I look so freekin' healthy and in shape, my cookin' "skills" are so exotic and "off the chart" by the time I have left I know they will be like "hey maybe I should try this "veggie thing".|||Education is providing information that is asked for. You can't force your beliefs on another adult, if you preach at them they will just avoid you.|||If they ask about it, tell them. Crossing the line is when you bring it up, tell them they "should" or you "wont die as soon" stuff like that, etc.
Be quiet about your beliefs, if they want to change, they will ask you for info|||not diference
[no offense to people who are, but that's what i have to write my speech on]
ok so i'm writing a persuasive speech on why veganism is stupid and i need appeals of logic, emotion, ethics, and facts to back it up!
how do u feel about veganism?
why do u think its dumb or unhealthy or awesome?|||It's not stupid, dumb or unhealthy.
It's just an eating preference.|||Thousands of wild animals die when crops marketed towards vegans are harvested. They're brutally crushed under farming machinery.
These animals were not domesticated and raised in controlled, safe environments like the animals we slaughter.
Is it right to say a small shrew's life isn't equal to a cow or chicken's?
Humans were meant to eat meat. Don't be such a p*ssy about it.|||Vegans are so stupid that they refuse to ride in a car with leather seats. Vegans actually believe that humans are a parasite on Earth (honest). Vegans refuse to believe animals kill and eat each other. Have you EVER seen a vegan that wasn't all yellow and shriveled up? Vegans won't even drink milk. Vegans have a screw loose....|||Personaly I think its stupid.
Any person who doesnt believe in killing animals for food is really not a bright person.
If we didnt kill theese animals, they would take over the human race.
And atleast there not going to waste.
But i think its even more stupid that they wont even eat anything produced by animals.
Its really just..stupid.|||I think its kind of stupid because I like all kinds of food but I guess if thats what someone wants to do, then whatever. But some negative reasons are that you don't always get all the nutritional goodness that other foods provide.|||can't eat animal products... however the vegetables they eat were fertilised by an animal's feces.|||I think it's awesome.
As long as they can get their nutritional needs, what's the harm?|||Well, it lacks meat.
A life without meat, is like a life without sex.|||reason why it is smart:
cow milk is for cows. DURR
people weren't meant to eat chicken and beef. scientifically proven that they are bad for you.
I always have somthing like rice cakes and a cup of tea for breakfast. But my mum keeps telling me I need calcium, this is because im vegan and well to be honast we never buy soy products because none of my family like it, I get my protein from beans/legumes and nuts etc. But im worried about calcium as I am a growing teenager and if im deficient it might be a worry. I dont want to shell out on calcium supplements plus my digestive system is a lil weak, I get indegestion and acid reflux alot, will soy milk help me get my calcium but no intefere with my digestion problem?|||I didn't eat dairy as a child - I couldn't digest it properly - and never had a calcium deficiency. Billions of people in different cultures don't eat dairy normally - Japanese, Chinese, etc. If we really needed breast milk as adults we would still be suckling on our own mothers! There is plenty of calcium in fresh foods - green leafy veges, nuts, fruit, traces of it in just about everything. The whole "you must eat dairy to get calcium" mantra is just a myth propogated by the dairy industry. Just eat real food and you'll be fine. Put some tahini or almond butter on your rice cakes and drink some fresh OJ. Chocolate flavoured soy milk is tasty - but not a great source of calcium unless it is fortified. You're better off just eating tofu which should be mild on your stomach since it is a mild food on its own without strong spices added. Maybe eat small amounts of things to find out what agrees with you.|||Try dark green vegetables like broccoli. Their are other ways to get calcium besides soy, like nuts....12 almonds is your daily calcium intake.
Rice cakes and tea isn't the best start, add some fruit into the morning routine if possible.
I'm not sure why you have indegestion and acid reflux, you might want to talk to your doctor about it, and try not laying down after eating. I don't think soy will play any part in it.|||I have been vegan for nearly a decade and had my calcium levels tested and have never been low. Brocolli and kale are high in calcium and in fact the calcium in dark green vegetables is easier for your body to absorb that dairy sources so you don't even need as much. If your still worried though many brands of soya milk and orange juice are fortified with calcium. Babies need milk but after weening human beings are the only species on the planet that consumes milk of another species so it doesn't make sense. This whole calcium defiency thing is for a large part a myth because dairy products have not been part of many traditional Asian diets (Chinese, Japanese) yet there are much lower incidents of osteoperosis than in Europe or North America. I believe the push on dairy products is a large result of the powerful dairy industry rather than nutritional evidence. You might consult a naturopathic doctor if you have other digestive issues.
I am going there today with my two friends and my boyfriend for prom. I've been there once before with my family but lucky for me, the waitress knew exactly what a vegan was and knew what to get me. I am just worried I might get someone that doesn't know about veganism today. So, what questions do I ask? Should I be worried about the rice? What about how they flavor the tofu? Please help?|||They would surely know what a vegetarian is. Therefore vegans should have no problems either, because dairy products, eggs and honey are not things normally associated with vegetarian sushi. The rice is fine. It's just plain boiled/steamed rice, usually with a little rice-wine vinegar added, then rolled in a nori (seaweed) sheet along with thin strips of something else. With vegetarian sushi, that something else is usually cucumber, avocado, carrot or similar. Nothing to worry about. The soy sauce and wasabi that accompany the sushi are vegan-friendly too. Something else you may be able to order is edamame (soybeans). Bon appetit!|||get a vegetable sushi roll.
lol|||Raw fish.|||Why don't you order the same thing as last time- just remind them you want no animal products in it- meat, milk, or egg? Call ahead of time and it won't be a big deal.
While I believe in vegetarianism, and even veganism, for health, spirtual and nutritional reasons, this is one point I am stuck on. What would the world do with millions of livestock? |||Perhaps nature would take its course?
Of course it would seem like a big problem to have so much cattle in one place but perhaps if the animals were sent to different places around the world it would be less of a cluster. And then of course when placed in their new surrounding the food chain would take over.
Just a guess |||it will never happen so who cares|||Just think about it for a minute. Stop raising animals at an artificially high rate to feed people and they stop reproducing at that same rate. It isn't natural for animals to be reproducing so very constantly. Take away the demand and the supply will not continue to increase. It simply wouldn't be practical.
That's actually one of the easier questions to answer.|||They'd die off until nature resumes its balance. And they would be much less painful and humiliating deaths.|||Livestock are a HUMAN perpetuated population. If we stopped eating them, farmers would stop making money on them, and therefor farmers would stop breeding them.
If we didn't eat beef, there wouldn't be any cattle.
Obviously, if everybody just decided overnight the become veggies, that would be a problem. But I don't find "what if's" that are never going to happen to be relevant.|||They would all be killed anyway, so the best thing would be just to stop breeding them.|||The things normal consumed like cows, chickens, and pigs, are born and bred in captivity for the purpose of consumtion. The animal population would not be greatly affected by a global wave of vegetarianism especially since the animal kingdom is subject to its own preador/prey system. |||Most livestock are raised specifically to be slaughtered. So if there was no demand for them, then farmers and ranchers would not raise them.|||Supply & demand. It wouldn't happen all at once so as the demand dwindled, so would the supply.|||they would all join the unicorns and follow them over the rainbow into the world of your own Imagination.|||animals are artifically inseminated to reproduce for meat. It is unnatural and if we just let nature takes its course it would all work out perfectly
I'm very curious of veganism but not sure if I can switch completely to veganism or try vegetarianism first? I definitely need a strict change especially with processed foods. Any good resources to see whats not good or good to eat or a vegan for dummies maybe?|||"The word 'veganism' denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to end the idea of animals as property and exclude all forms of intentional exploitation of, use of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing, research or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, including people and the environment.
In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
This should give you the info to help start off veganism a lot easier:
Here is a list of animal ingredients to avoid:
http://www.happycow.net/health-animal-in鈥?/a>
More things to avoid:
Animals as clothes:
Leather, skins, furs, wool, silk, down, feathers...
Animals as entertainment:
Circuses, rodeos, zoos, aquariums, animal fights, animal races, hunting...
Companies that DO NOT test on animals(however CHECK INGREDIENTS they only verify testing not ingredients):
http://www.leapingbunny.org/indexcus.php
Vegan products:
http://www.veganstore.com/ (I know them well and they aren't doing as well in this economy but they are a great source for awesome hard to find stuff and they are very friendly and giving even if they really don't have much if anything to give)
http://gentleworld.org/vegan-evolution/p鈥?/a>
Vegan recipes:
http://vegweb.com/
More info on veganism:
http://animal-rights.com/
http://www.vegetus.org/honey/honey.htm (I get the honey question a lot)
http://www.youcanhelpstopthis.com/
Dropkick has the wrong idea. He is right about the ingredients and such but you can easily find all of those products vegan (or you just don't need them to begin with) and if you keep yourself in good health you are less likely to need drugs but sometimes you might and you have to make the right decisions about it. Just because medicine and science have become morally and ethically corrupted in many cases doesn't always have to mean you should keep sick or use their products.|||Go for vegetarian, a true vegan lifestyle is almost impossible to attain in the modern world (most of the people who say they're Vegans either don't know what a Vegan really is or they're lying).
A vegetarian doesn't eat meat, a true or hard-core vegetarian tries to avoid any animal products at all (milk, cheese, eggs, jello, ice cream, honey, etc.).
This is fairly easy to attain and with care can be a very healthy life style (make sure you get enough proteins, fats and the vitamins that your body needs).
- It's a good idea when you start a vegetarian lifestyle to take daily vitamin tablets until your diet stabilizes, and sometimes to continue taking them. And depending on your new diet, a tablespoon of peanut butter or olive oil daily is also often a good thing (fats & protein).
A Vegan doesn't use animal products at all, or products tested on animals.
If you just concentrate on products with animal derived ingredients - this means no leather - shoes, belts, etc., wool, down filled items, nothing dyed red (most red dye is made from ground up bugs (this includes food and candies), store bought cakes, cookies, candies (contains albumen - an animal derived product, or eggs), most cosmetics, vitamins, supplements, shampoos, skin creams, mouthwashes, deodorants, aftershave lotions, perfumes, SOAP (I've always felt this was a very important product), and many, many, more products as they contain one or more of these animal derived ingredients: allantoin, amino acids, alpha-hydroxy, animal fats and oils, arachidonic acid, arachidyl proprionate, benzoic acid, biotin, caprylic acid, biotin, castoreum, etc.
And if you want medical care, your pretty much out of luck, as a tremendous amount of drugs and vaccines come from animals, and almost every medical product has hand animal testing done on it.|||Keep your options symple
complete protein vegetarian style
eggs and cheese help a lot and you do not have to take the lifestyle of vegan.
complete protein for starters this seems to be the hard part
let us keep it simple and give you this thought
beans or legumes + whole grains are complete protein
such as beans of your choice and whole grain rice
peanut butter and bread
these = complete protein
and a second easy way is grains and nuts or seeds of choice
peanut butter and Whole Grain Bread
Oatmeal and walnuts for breakfast|||start by cutting out one specific meat every few weeks, fish/seafood, beef, pork, poultry. that is up to vegetarian. then to go vegan do the same thing but cut out dairy, eggs, any othe animal derived foods. you will have to pay close attention to ingredients. watch out for things containing gelatin.|||being a vegan is very hard because you lose that protein meat gives you, but they're are many substitutes for protein. for instance peanut butter or beans and various legumes. being a vegan also means you avoid ALL products derived from animals, so do some more research on animal products and you will be well on your way.|||Check out PETA and order their free starter kit. Or the free starter kit from PCRM...they are the 2 best sources to get you started.|||try vegetarianism first then after you get used to it give up dairy, then eggs, then everything else|||http://www.peta.org/living/vegetarian-li鈥?/a>
I recently (about two weeks ago) became a vegetarian, and am so glad I did. I've heard a lot of good things about veganism (and a lot of bad things about milk and egg production) and want to try to eat animal by-products less and less, starting with three days a week, I think. So my question is: As a vegan, what do you eat on a typical day? Also, did you do it gradually, or cold turkey? Thank a lot!|||I'm glad that you are making this decision for the animals, not to mention your health, and the environment! =)
On a typical day, here is what I eat..
Breakfast: I always have a protein drink in the morning, along with any of the following,
cereal with soymilk (be sure to check the cereal ingredients)
or toast with Earth Balance (vegan margarine; I use the nonhydrogenated kind) and sugar and cinnamon
or, if I have time, scrambled tofu and pancakes =D mm :) Breakfast is probably my favorite part of the day; I wish I had more time to make it. hehe
Lunch: brown rice with stirfry vegetables
or a sandwich o whole wheat bread (usually consists of Tofurkey, lettuce, tomatoes, Vegenaise [I use the Follow Your Heart brand], and avocado; you can do whatever you'd like)
or sushi (rice, seaweed, avocado, cucumber, carrots, seasoned tofu, and soy sauce to dip it in)
or a peanut butter and banana sandwich on whole wheat bread.
Dinner: whatever my mom's making (my family is vegan)
today I am having pho (vietnamese dish that has noodles and soup, mm)..most of the time we have rice with vegetable dishes and soup, or sometimes we'll have noodles of different varieties. It's probably because I live in an Asian household, haha. For dinner, you can still eat whatever you're used to but just substitute with vegan ingredients; it's not too hard, well it is hard at first, but you get used to it and it is fun to cook, although I don't cook dinner often.
In tenth grade, I became vegan cold turkey, but after the first semester, I started eating cheese again. :(
Afterwards, I gradually started giving up cheese and I really am not sure when I decided that I was going to become 100% vegan, I just remember it was at least a year and a half ago.
Also, the transition was not very hard for me because I already avoided eggs (I was a lacto-vegetarian) and I also hated milk and never drank it...so the only thing that was really hindering me was the cheese. I still miss cheese but some of my cravings are satisfied with the following recipes:
Creamiest Mac'n'Cheez EVER: http://yeahthatveganshit.blogspot.com/20鈥?/a>
Baked Mac'n'Cheez: http://yeahthatveganshit.blogspot.com/20鈥?/a>
You should get this cookbook: http://www.amazon.com/Vegan-Vengeance-De鈥?/a>
(It has a couple of awesome pizza recipes)|||I quit cold turkey. I went from omnivore to vegan overnight.
In a typical day:
PB + cinnamon + banana + whole grain bread
Workout
Post-workout shake (wheat protein isolate + fruit/veggie powder + rice milk + coffee + vegan DHA powder)
Some kind of lunch
Some kind of snack
Some kind of dinner
Typically, I'll have a stir fry, Italian-style pasta dish, or veggie wrap/sandwich for lunch or dinner just because it's easy and portable. Sometimes I'll do a Mexican-style pizza, burgers made with portabello mushroom caps, or some chili. I add a lot of things to my meals to pack in as many nutrients as I can. For example, if I made spaghetti, I'd use buckwheat or quinoa noodles, canned tomatoes, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, yellow squash, kale, zucchini, fresh spinach, fresh basil, fresh bell pepper, fire roasted bell pepper, olives, flax seed...you get the idea. The more nutrition, the better...and that holds true no matter how you choose to eat!
For snacks, it can be anything from a vegan protein/food/snack bar, half sandwich, soup, whatever.|||I did it gradually as I learned about the healthiest diet. I discovered that most convenience foods and processed foods contain additives that can be dangerous to some people. I also discovered that most contained fat, salt, sugars, and artificial ingredients to add to the foods taste and appeal.
The ideal diet from a health perspective is a low-fat, low-refined carb vegan diet. I achieve this by rarely eating at restaurants or eating prepare foods. My diet consists mostly of:
+ The equivalent of one teaspoon of oil, usually eaten as raw nuts.
+ Beans and Brown Rice to provide all the protein building block.
+ Whole grains. (Not bread, because of eggs and other additives.)
+ Vegetables (raw, steamed)
+ Fruits (raw, never juiced or processed. I like the fiber)
This is a very simple diet, and it is very easy to track calories. I'll eat a little bit of anything, but in very modest amounts.
If you have a more typical diet, I'd try to avoid too many fats and sugars. I'd also avoid artificial additives like aspartame, MSG, genetically modified foods, and artificial colorings.|||I was a Vegan for a day, my friend and I decided to try it and let me tell you it was hard. Maybe because I didn't have many Veganish foods in or because I am not a Vegetarian yet. This page has 20 Vegan meals, or so it says, so I hope that they help you!
http://webecoist.com/2008/09/01/20-delic鈥?/a>
http://webecoist.com/2008/10/14/20-delic鈥?/a>
I hope that these two websites help you! ^^|||well, i was a vegetarian for about 8months. i just started to go cold turkey to be become a vegan. its only been a week as a vegan for me. on a typical day i'll either eat cereal w/ soymilk or oatmeal for breakfast, baby carrots and a PBJ for lunch, and a salad for dinner. some fruit like grapes for snacks. when i checked out peta2.com it's not very hard to be a vegan for me ;D|||I went vegan after being veg for many years. It's easier if you like to cook, I think it does take a little more effort but it's so worth it! Some great cookbooks are Vegan with a Vengeance and Veganomicon. There are great websites out there too. Check out fatfreevegan.com, she is also amazing.
Typically I eat a lot of seitan (homemade from above books), tofu, tempeh, nuts, and of course veggies. The chickpea cutlet recipe from Veganomincon is the best ever (I had that for lunch today). Her tofu ricotta recipe is also a staple in my cooking (think lasagne, stuffed shells, eggplant stacks or rolls). If I'm in a hurry I'll just saute up some veggies. I always snack on fruit throughout the day.|||Cold turkey. I love that phrase. (its a john lennon song)
Anyway, yes I went cold turkey and I just eat everything I would eat before, just with vegan substitutes. Soy ice cream is a huge staple, in my dieat, lol.
Good job on becoming a vegetarian and great job on wanting to be a vegan!|||I wing myself off very slowly. Eat nuts,grains lots of veggies and fruits also at the health food stores they have lots of vegan meals/products you can eat pack with all you need. you know just research it first, but really its not that hard I'm still learning and its a blessing. Here a site you can order vegan products and trust me this stuff is the bomb!
www.vegieworld.com|||gradual should be good, leaving probably fish to last. rmemeber to eat nuts, and take vitamins as well. If youre a vegan make sure you dont wear leather!|||I became a lacto ovo vegetarian with every intention on going vegan- eventually. I looked at a calender, set a date for the transition, and went for it! I said my final goodbyes to the cheese, eggs, ice cream, milk, honey, caramel, etc, etc. the week before I set the date to become fully vegan. As I was doing the lacto ovo thing, I went shopping for my vegan commodities such as hygiene products, beauty products, clothing (no leather, wool, silk, cashmere, suede..) and accessories. Basically, I switched out and gave away all of the things that I used on a daily basis so that by the time my diet was pure vegetarian, I had vegan alternatives available. I used the internet to do my research, and it has helped me make choices in the things that I now use and buy. So yeah, it was a gradual thing, but it was over the course of only 8 months from being an omnivore to a vegan. But you know, I have to say, some ppl comment that they could never do it, but I thought the transition was smooth and not very difficult as they or I would have imagined. I never had any meat cravings, but I did MISS things like butter, milk chocolate, many baked pies, cakes, cookies. I've only faultered ONCE, when I ate a McDonalds french fry, but it backlashed because the taste of beef was repulsive! Bleh :/
On a typical day, I have a cold or hot cereal with a fruit or fruit smoothie for breakfast. Some nuts, granola, dried fruit, or tofu smoothie for snacks. Maybe a soup, salad or sandwich for lunch. And dinner is a stirfry, beans and rice-type dish, a mock-meat, tofu, or seitan dish. I eat alot more ethnic meals because they tend to have more vegan choices. I also have greatly EXPANDED and broadened my spectrum of whole foods. I now eat more seaweed, a bigger variety of grains like barley, wheat berries, quinoa. I love hemp milk and almond milk. I cook with alot more veggies than before. That's not to say that those foods mentioned are the only things I eat, but I don't want to bore you with ALL the things that I eat. I've never felt better.
I have been curious for some time about people who strictly follow Veganism do when they become ill? I know for minor events Health Food Stores and what not have medications that are vegan friendly, but what about major diseases such as diabetes, cancer, or even involved in an auto accident, ect?
Anyways, I am curious and please don't say that poeple who follow veganism never get major diseases because that cannot possibly be so. I realize their are potential health benefits, but no eating habit is a sure fire way of avoiding disease. Thanks!|||Our goal is to create a vegan society in a few hundred or few thousand or whatever years. If that actually happens, we can develop our own medicines and anything else without animal testing or ingredients. Until then, we will do whatever we have to do to survive. There is nothing hypocritical about it. It is not our fault that we live in a world with no respect for animals.
We just do what we can. To refuse critical treatment just makes us look radical, veganism IS NOT radical, just some people are.|||If I have to use conventional medicine, I look for tablets and caplets without lactose and gelatin. I make it clear to medical professionals that I am vegan with the hopes that they won't try to give me animal-based products. Doesn't always work, unfortunately. And when I go through menopause, I will make it crystal clear to my gyno that I am NOT taking horse-pee pills.|||When you need real help beliefs don't matter any more.|||In my case, I use herbal remedies when and wherever I can. I recently had a sinus infection, and treated it with natural grapefruit seed extract as opposed to a medical antibiotic. It worked wonders. Having had chronic illness for most of my omnivorous life, I have found that I get sick far less often now that I follow a veg lifestyle. When I do, I am usually able to treat it naturally. When I ate meat, I was crippled with lupus, arthritis, and many other chronic ailments, and was taking a whole slew of medications. Now, I take none except my thyroid medication (which is animal derived, and cannot be helped-but eventually I hope to find a suitable replacement) Personally, I think most medications are overperscribed, and just masking or treating symptoms does no good-the symptoms we get when we are sick are the bodies way of fighting off the illness-sometimes we just need to let nature take its course. That said, I WOULD seek medical treatment if my condition became severe enough to not respond to homeopathic or natural remedies, and would accept that as a necessary part of recovery. In the meantime, the natural approaches have worked much better for me than conventional medicine ever did.|||I've been curious about this as well, and I *am* a vegan. I can't speak for everyone, but I think if I suddenly had something serious, I would have to just trust the hospital I ended up at. I would ask that my meals be vegan, and to have the non-gelcap versions of medications whenever possible, but other than that, it's out of my hands. My main reason for being vegan is that it is not *necessary* for me to cause pain and death, so I avoid it, but if it came to my survival, it would then be necessary. Though, besides medical techniques and medicines using animal testing, insulin, and possible animal derived substances in medicines, I can't think of anything particularly non-vegan I would have to do in a hospital. What specifically were you thinking of?|||If they eat healthy then they are including everything they need. Anyone can get sick. You are right , doesn't matter how healthy you eat , you can still get sick.|||I think if I had a serious disease, I would still try to eat a vegetarian diet, or even vegan if it was possible, but I would take my medication, even if it was made with animal products.
I've always thought my vegetarianism is doing what I can to help, and if I'm in a position where my health is compromised, then I have to do everything I can do to get healthy.
I've been a vegan for about 5 months and I'm having some problems. I have severe OCD (I get treatment) and my life is miserable freaking out about every single possible animal byproduct. I have this eyeliner that I only use because I'm also OCD about money (not wanting to spend) and because it would be a waste. I don't know if it contained animal products, but it's remove.
My family uses animal products all the time and I'm freaked out and have to keep washing my hands.
Sometimes I have to tell myself to stop worrying so much and I'll stop washing my hands or freaking out, but then I wonder if the situation I'm panicking about is OCD or not. I don't know any other vegans so I can't ask them what they would do.
I can't stop being a vegan because I'm very passionate about what I believe it, but I really need some help from other vegans on how to not be OCD about the whole thing.
Please don't be mean.
And I might post other questions about situat|||your OCD is a condition you have, which is nothing to do with your being vegan. If you weren't vegan you would obsess about something else. You need to think about WHY you are vegan. Is it to cause problems for people by attaching yourself to rigid rules you cannot break, or is it for the greater good? I'm vegan, but I'm the only one in my family, I don't even know any other vegans so I'm surrounded by animal products. I never buy anything for myself that contains animal products, but I have to let others live by their beliefs too, which means buying meat and dairy for my boyfriend and our kids, although all the houshold toilletries soap, shampoo etc are vegan. Last night I sent my boyfriend shopping and he got a plant-based washing up liquid that contains milk-protein but I'll use it anyway, he did his best to get something vegan. I will also buy 2nd hand (but not new) leather goods. I do my bit by being aware of everything I eat/use and what it actually is and I avoid animal products because this is what I believe to be right, but I don't see myself on a moral highground above the meat-eaters. I do 'preach' a bit to family, but never to strangers and ultimately, I believe everyone should follow their own path, so much as I would like to see my boyfriend and kids become vegan, I accept that they're not and I handle meat and dairy when preparing food, I don't freak out because I'm not preparing it for me. In your case, those animal products are being used anyway, it's not your fault washing and your hands isn't going to change that. I also used up make-up from my pre-vegan days and just replaced it with vegan as it ran out. If you are in the UK most Barry M (not foundation/powder) and GOSH make-up at Superdrug is vegan. Maybe see a doc about the OCD thing if you're not already, but don't stop being vegan - it's good for you!|||I'm not a vegan (not even a veggie anymore, but still cook that way most of the time), but I do have 2 grown kids w/OCD. Sounds like your treatment is working for you right now, for whatever reason. I highly encourage you to check in w/your dr. and therapist. If you can't (due to family or whatever) and need someon, you can email me. Changes in routines and lifestyles can be really rough for ocd kids. By believing that you can learn to cope with this, too, and getting help you really can get back to your baseline normal.|||Hi Sophie,
I don't think this is related to veganism.
I would treat veganism as just a "topic" you get OCD about and try to adress it in your treatment.
You are right in that you will not need to compromise your morals on veganism. Being passionate about it is a positive thing, letting it control your life is where you need help and it seems you are getting it. Your helpers need to take a different tack, tell them about seeking help on the internet and how you feel thier help isn't working for you
Best of luck with it, hope you get better, relax and enjoy life more soon.
Take care,
m|||I work in mental health and I never heard of anyone being able to decide "not to be OCD."
All you can do is to stay compliant with your treatment and hopefully control the symptoms as much as possible. If you don't think your symptoms are being controlled well enough, then you need to talk to your doctor about that.|||Iv'e already answered this question, whats the deal?|||A lot of folks with OCD also have issues around food. It would be best to speak with your doctor to see if there's anything else you can do - switch meds, try alternative treatments, etc. If your doctor isn't willing to work with you, you might want to seek out another opinion. Living with out of control OCD is miserable.|||This may or may not be strictly related, but there is an eating disorder called Orthorexia wherein the sufferer only eats very specific "pure" foods. It usually starts out as veganism/vegetarian philosophy in sufferers, but as OCD overtakes your eating habits, intake is usually pared down to a very limited selection of foods, leading to serious health risks and emaciation - ironic result of a quest for "health". Similarly, I had a cousin who developed anorexia as a result of her OCD and a fear of bacteria - to her, more and more foods seemed "full of germs".
Your obsessive compulsive tendencies should not rule how you eat to the point of anxiety - that's the point where it becomes and eating disorder. You may not be there yet, bu you could be. So. Talk to somebody. Humans have been getting along for quite a while with the occasional animal byproduct, and anxiety to the degree of compulsive is unwarranted.|||Vegan should not equal obsessive.
If you already bought the eyeliner, the money has already been spent. Just buy vegan brand online next time. It won't contribute to any animal suffering if it's already been purchased
Don't worry about what everyone around you is using or eating. It is your choice to be vegan. If you act weird because someone else ate or used an animal product, they will think that vegan people are freaks.
I am glad that you are passionate about your beliefs, I am as well. I know that it must be hard having OCD, but the calmer and happier that you appear to be in the eyes of those around you, the more positive of a message you will help spread in the name of those beliefs.|||I am a vegan that eats dairy products for the most part,beef,i will not even touch! Disgusting. It sounds as you may be a tad over the top on washing after using toiletry/make up products made with animal by product,but that is you,it may be somewhat ocd.
i just want to ask a few questions
tell me if your vegan or not.
Is it best to get sweetened milk or un-sweetened soya milk?
Has any one tried asdas own brand soya milk ok?
Should i buy or make my own vegan cheese.
do i NEED to take supplements.
any good recipies.
what should i say to someone who makes fun of me for being vegan?
is there any thing else i shd know or any stories if ur vegan|||hi, yea i've been vegan for 7 years...
i use unsweetened soya milk if i want a cup of tea, or on cereal...i don't find a use for the sweetened stuff...
i think it's probably a lot of effort to make your own cheese and there are good vegan cheeses out there - i prefer cheezly but others like sheese, so i would say to buy it. cheese was an odd one for me when i went vegan - i'd always eaten a Lot of cheese as a vegetarian and although i was never tempted to go back to dairy, i really didn't like the vegan alternative and found i just didn't eat it. a friend made me a meal a year or so later, using cheezly and i really liked it...i think my taste buds had 'forgotten' what dairy tastes like :)
you don't need to take supplements if you're eating a varied diet...only thing you might need is B12...
if people make fun then just try not to react...people Will ask you 'what about plants' or tell you 'all vegans are unhealthy' and a load of other nonsense but the best thing you can do is show yourself as a good example of a healthy vegan, show that it's easy and that there Is plenty of stuff you can eat and that it's consistent with taking animal interests seriously in a way that vegetarianism simply can't be...
feel free to mail me if you need any help...good luck :)|||You don't have to drink soya milk - also try Oat milk and Rice Milk - they're both sold in Asda. The Rice Milk is nicer than soya.
Vegan cheese tastes totally gross, but you could probably get used to it after a while - I had some Cheezley a few weeks ago, but it wasn't good. It's only sold in larger supermarkets - I got mine from a larger branch of Tescos.
I'm vegetarian, but haven't quite taken the plunge into veganism just yet (I'm still cheese dependant).
As for supplements - vegans are prone to becoming low in vitamin B12. My husband had a vegan colleague who ended up with nerve damage due to this and had to have monthly vitamin B12 injections eventually.
Make sure you eat a good range of vegetables and take a decent multivitamin/mineral. Make sure you get enough iron and protein as well. Don't turn to carbohydrates for your energy source - get some protein into you and you'll feel better and won't put on weight.|||I am not vegan but I eat a mainly vegetarian diet which often includes vegan meals.
For the soya milk question, it really depends on what you are using it for. I usually go for unsweetened though. However, I do sometimes use sweetened on things like cereal just for taste prefrence. I haven't tried that ASDAs variety.
I would buy my own cheese but if you simply enjoy the challenge of making your own then maybe it could just be fun for you.
If you carefully watch your intake of food to make sure you get a complete balanced intake of vitamins and minerals you shouldn't need supplements. However, you don't say your age and if you are especially young it may be worth talking to your GP just to make sure.
As far as being made fun of..just let it brush off you. It is brave to make your own lifestyle choices.|||1. I'm vegan.
2. It all depends on what you want. I don't like excess sugars, so unsweetened milks are the way I go (I typically do rice or hemp milk, not soy). If you want a sweeter drink, then get sweetened, but please don't try to use it in savory recipes!
3. I have not, but most soy milk will taste the same, regardless of brand.
4. If you can make it, make it. Always best to make your own foods.
5. No, but you NEED to eat a well-rounded diet with adequate calories.
6. Email me your fave foods, I'll give you vegan recipes for them.
7. Ask them why they felt so compelled to share their stupid opinion with you.
8. Yes, being vegan is EASIER than you might think! Few people seem to know this :)|||Im not a vegan, but I know allot of people who are vegans. And besides my mom barely eats meat because well i dont know lol.
Anyways, I think it's better to buy your vegan cheese.
And yes, I do think you need supplements.
Well, I think it's just dumb if other people make fun of you just because you're vegan. Just ignore them.
p.s. what a accidence, my mom is watching something about vegans on tv.|||im vegetarian but id like to become vegan one day. the problem is that i love cheese and most of my meals contain it, so it will be hard to give that up.
i prefer flavoured soya milk as it just tastes a bit weird otherwise. i usually have apple flavour but theres all sorts.
i havent tried asdas sorry only morrisons and tescos
iv tried vegan cheese from holland & barretts that looked like cheese slices that you get in individual wrappers. it looked the part but honestly tasted like paper! i havent tried any others yet but im sure theres a range of flavours! no idea how to made it but iv also heard theres a thing u can make with nuts that kinda tastes like cheese?
you dont need to take supplements as long as you eat plenty of fruit and veg, especially greens like broccoli and spinach. eat nuts theres loads to choose from, eat seeds their really addictive once you get used to them. include tofu in your meals. you can grill it, fry it etc. i usually make my own stirfry and grill quorn/tofu fillets. then chop them up and chuck into stirfry.
vegans differ from vegetarians slightly because vegans dont eat meat because they feel strongly about animal abuse, and so believe that its not right to take dairy from cows because it was meant for their calves.
just tell them you are against animal abuse
animals are your friends....and you dont eat your friends
and that cows are pumped full of hormones and steroids, impregnated and then when the calf is born its taken away so that dairy farms get the milk. girl calves are grown to become dairy cows and boy calves are killed and become veal|||I don't think it matters whether or not your milk is sweetened. I enjoy the vanilla kind, so that's what I buy. I'm in the US, so I don't think we have asdas brand, so I will defer to those who know that one.
I would say buy the cheese until you learn what kind you like. They are really not wonderful, and the transition to not eat any cheese is worthwhile.
But! I love to experiment when I cook, so if you do, too, go for it! :o)
Take a B12 vit once in awhile. Most soy milks in the US is already fortified with it, but I still take one every once in awhile. Go outside to get vit D. Eat flax and/or walnuts for omegas. That's about it!
Vegweb.com has some great recipes, so look around until you find ones you like.
People are going to question you, try to make you angry, and some will even be outright mean to you. Please start to accept that this will happen.
What I do when people I don't know ask, I tell them I eat plant protein. It will answer their second question ("How do you get your protein?!") easily enough. Then I decide if I want to engage in a discussion. I sometimes will tell them I live a cruelty-free life, but that can sometimes invite the wrong discussion. :o)
To my friends, it was easy. I had been a vegetarian, so it wasn't a stretch.
Become passionate about your choice (for some, it's a slower process than others). When you are passionate about it, the insults don't bother you as much. You know you are doing the right thing and that's all there is to it.
The most successful I've been has been taking my die-hard carnivore friends to veggie restaurants. Opens their eyes to everything wonderful we get to eat. :o)
I've been vegetarian for a little over a month now...i'm enjoying the comfort in knowing that i haven't killed anything! :D|||It's unnatural. There's no reason to abstain from meat. If animals were smart enough to catch you, they would eat you. Also, meat is delicious, nutritious, and a legitimate food source.|||I don't think it is right or wrong. Whatever makes you feel better. The Bible says we can eat animals. The Buddhists say we shouldn't. I think it depends on a person's spiritual stance.|||On a health level:
I think you are going to be eating a lot of green and doing a lot of studying to get your diet healthy.
If not, you can stop menstruating (if you are female), have difficulty healing, suffer fatigue, and other diet-related problems.
The biggest fight is going to be finding things to put in your diet that have the right nutrients in the right quantity in the right combinations compared to many of the same being found in quantity in many meats or meat preparations.
On a psychological level:
If the difficulty and stress of making this work is low enough to tolerate and is less than the stress of eating animals, go for it. I wouldn't be obnoxious about it or try to force it on others, especially children.
On a metaphysical level:
I think you're a little out there.
Elitist as a matter of fact, setting yourself above everyone else (including the animals).
Trying to keep everyone and everything alive is a dangerous and unnatural act.|||That's why I became vegetarian. I don't want anything to die so I can live. I am a veteran. I've seen enough death. I vowed when I came home never to hurt another living person again. After a couple years, it evolved into another living thing ever again. So I stopped eating meat. Nothing that has died will ever come in contact with my body.
I feel great, am in far better health and shape and have a clean conscience. I love it. The transition and detox wasn't very fun, as you'll soon be experiencing but it's worth it in so many ways.|||Those who can go meatless have my blessing. I have a friend who hasn't eaten "meat" for nearly thirty years. But he'll eat fish and poultry. And I tell him, Friend, if it has a beating heart it's meat. Most think of themselves as being vegetarians if they simply don't eat red meat or pork, etc. Bullfeathers. We're at the top of the food chain and we eat whatever we want. This entire planet is teeming with life. Is a plant any less a life? We eat because we have to to survive. And it goes all the way down to the two cell organism eating the one cell organism. And there is no proof that eating meat is any more or less healthy for us than eating only plant matter. Infact, look at the mountain gorilla that must consume huge amounts of plant fiber to live. And look at their waist lines! The only reason our species has evolved to appear the way we do is because of the protein we get from meat. So, go enjoy a nice fat medium-rare T-bone, and stop laying so much guilt on yourself. After all, the animals are absolutely mindless anyway. They're not self-aware. Bon apetit.|||Hi Beach. Vegetarians tend to live longer and healthier lives than carnivores. However, you must educate yourself about vegetarian diets. These diets often lack adequate amounts of Vitamin B12, Zinc and balanced protein (amino acids). So, you need to be knowledgeable about managing and avoiding these potential problems.
Best wishes and good luck.|||Vegans taste alright with some salt. Vegitarians pretty much have a decent salt content. All in all it depends on how you cook them.|||i have no "beef "with it... :P
sorry if it makes you unconformable but you have killed something, as a plant is life and to "kill" is take life.
i personally am not a veggie, but i respect the animal in which has died so i can eat it.
i respect vegetarianism/veganism unless it is forced on someone or saying that carnivorous people are unmoral or ignorant and such.
im all for animal rights and everything, but its a part of life,eating animals. if someone disagrees, id be happy to hear your argument
I've been a vegetarian for about 11 years and now I'm considering veganism, mainly for the health benefits. I'd like to hear from vegans or people who know vegans whether or not the benefits really outweigh the challenges when eliminating all animal products from your diet. Is it something you, after a while, easily get used to? I certainly would never want to eat meat again, partly out of habit and partly from it simply having no appeal for me, so is it the same with veganism? Would like to hear from anyone with experience in this.|||Substitutes, and Vitamin B6 definciency and Vitamin B12 defienciency|||Benefits- Your body will no longer be a grave yard, high fiber diet. Less saurdated fats. Barely any cholesterol. Also, I don't know if it's just me but I never get sick supreme immune system I suppose.
Challengse - Cravings, temptation. and remaining a Vegan with out slipping. Peer pressure to eat meat. And finally accidentally messing up like eating something you thought was Vegan or safe such as foods with gelatin in them. But, most of all going to parties/cook outs or friends houses.|||lol i'm literally just starting veganism from being a constant meat eater and not caring what I ate. Yesterday was my first go at it, and yes it's quite easy. Most things you like that aren't vegan have a vegan substitute. For example, I was worried about how I would drink coffee with-out milk, turns out soy milk tastes really good with coffee! Soy milk tastes good with cereal as well. There are a lot of sites on the internet that help you too, if you want to know if something is vegan just google it, for example if I wanted to know if lays were vegan (which they are) I'd go up to google and search: are lays vegan.
You'll always find answers. Good luck.|||Benefits: it benefits your health (lowers risk of heart disease), it's better for the environment and most of all (and most importantly) it's better for animals.
Challenges: Finding something to eat at a restaurant while in a foreign country (speaking from experience).|||well you will be healthier and life a longer life ( maybe i don't know ) and most of all you might be able to drop a few pounds ( no offense) or to change the subject you should sit down and thing your decision carefully because it's a decision that can change life
I am a Vegan and do not eat dairy products and meat.I have been taking vitamins and is eating alot of stuff with whole wheat and nutrients in it,but I am afraid that I am not getting enough.My mother said something to me about ovo veganism..she said it is where you can eat everything you usually do as a Vegan,but you can also eat cheese.I know that cheese is really good and that is what my mother thinks I should do.I am still not sure if I should become an ovo Vegan because I am already pretty committed to being a regular Vegan.Can you tell me more about Ovo Veganism??|||"Ovo veganism"???
If that were a genuine term, it would mean that you don't eat dairy(cheese) or meat but eat eggs.
There is ovo-vegetarianism and lacto-vegetarianism but no vegan person eats eggs or dairy and they usually cause more suffering than the meat itself.|||Ovo-*vegetarianism* is where you eat eggs but no dairy or meat. Lacto-vegetarianism is where you eat dairy but no eggs or meat. There is no such thing as lacto or ovo veganism; it completely negates the term "vegan" as someone who doesn't consume animal products, period.
Personally? I say stick with veganism if you're against animal cruelty. The egg and dairy industries are directly linked to the meat industry. The male children of milk cows (How do you think they give milk? Forced pregnancy! D:) are often sent to veal farms, while "spent" chickens are sent off to be meat.|||no such thing.
If you eat eggs, you would be an ovo-vegetarian
Thats pretty much what i am.
If you want to add in cheese, you would be lacto-ovo-vegetarian - this is the most popular form which most people refer to as "vegetarian".
We can't just start adding in foods or preffixes when a clear definition already exists. Vegans do not eat eggs or dairy.|||The word "ovo" ... as in "ovulation".... is for eggs, not cheese.
If you eat eggs, you are not a vegan. If you eat cheese, you are not a vegan. Vegans do not eat any animal products at all. I think it's hysterical that people make up new words so that they can be "socially conscinece" and have what they want as well... but it's crazy. You can't just change the definitian of a word for your pleasure/comfort by adding a prefix.|||Sorry. I can't tell you more about "Ovo Veganism" because it doesn't exist. There is no such thing. Ovo refers to eggs, not cheese, and vegans eat neither. The term itself is an oxymoron.
Vegans do not eat animal products.
Eggs and cheese are animal products.
-therefore-
Vegans do not eat eggs and cheese.|||As others have said, there is no such thing. Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat eggs and dairy. "Ovo" means eggs while "lacto" means dairy. Both are specifically excluded by a vegan diet.
What nutrients do you think you are lacking that makes your mother think you should eat eggs?|||ovo is when you eat eggs but you still live as a vegan. but lacto is what she probably wanted to say lacto is when you can have dairy. that's why im lacto ovo vegetarian long name for a simple thing. |||Ovo means egg and vegans do not use animal products so there is no such thing as an ovo vegan.|||theres no ovo veganism|||Disgusting...|||Turning vegan is a slow process. Be patient and understanding with your body. Don't feel bad if once in a while you really feel like eating something your mind doesn't approve of.
I remember how badly I needed meat one day during my transition, but by and by all the craving left for good. After quitting meat I had raw milk for substitute, then I replaced even that with nuts and seeds and legumes (peas and beans) sprouted. Sprouted peas taste almost like fresh raw peas.
Just think why your body needs cheese or eggs and try to find some vegan substitutes to introduce to your body. You should teach your body this way. So far it can only think in terms of what you usually eat, but if you introduce to it new vegan substitutes, it can start thinking in terms of those. Like when it needs protein it will crave for nuts and seeds or legumes.
However, you can never tell for certain what is that particular stuff there is in an object of your craving that your body needs.
Bottom line is: Trust your body's messages, but make sure it is not a whim or a habbit, because you shouldn't go by those. Go by real body needs. Be patient and gentle with your body, and it will follow your mind's purpose as best it can.
Just curious. If you love, or think you love animals, this is a serious question for you. I have been a vegan for over a year now and wanted to hear what people have to say. If you have no idea why I people become vegans, go to http://www.meat.org and watch the main page video that is narrated by Alec Baldwin. It is truly eye opening. Good luck, would love to hear a serious answer from someone who has visited the site. There are many more wonderful sites to visit if you care.
http://www.farmsanctuary.org
http://www.tryveg.com
just google animals rights or vegan|||I've been a vegetarian for over 16 years. I was 13 when I started. The reason was simple, I started thinking about what I was actually eating and it made me very, very sad. I started looking into animal rights and to this day I believe I made the right decision.
My husband nor my son are vegetarians although my son normally eats what I eat so he doesn't eat much meat. I decided it is probably healthier for him to eat meat now and he can chose later what he wants to do (he's 2). I have given him tofu and soybeans and he likes them.
Also, I try not to buy leather and only buy products not tested on animals which there's more and more everyday.|||The world would be a better place? Sharks eat vegans too. Humans are the only animal stupid enough to feel guilty for doing what nature built us to do. Report Abuse
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|||I LOVE DEAD COW!|||I had a friend who was vegan and he looked like a walking skeleton. His eyes were all sunken in and he looked like he could use a nice meal.
I visited the website and have seen similar things before. I think if we had footage of what the cavemen did thousands of years ago it would knock your socks off...the whole "beat, slaughter and drag" method. Yikes! Unfortunately, that's what they had to do to survive. Everyone is different. There are no 2 people who think exactly alike. I love your passion. I think it's great that you stand behind your beliefs. BUT, I hope just because I enjoy a nice steak once in awhile it doesn't cause you to feel hatred towards me.
Ok, I just want to know your opinion on this. I'm sure you have all heard about the vegan couple whose baby starved at 6 weeks. GRANTED it seems like they didn't feed their baby enough food at all...and I'm sure there are other very healthy vegan babies out there now. I'm not passing any judgement at all, I just want to get your take on this.
What do you think?
btw i'm a vegetarian...|||Babies (animal and human) are meant to drink milk. It is what milk is for in the first place. If this couple was not giving their child milk (breast milk or formula, whatever) that's silly. Even though it isn't technically 'vegan' it is what that baby needs to survive.|||i respect other peoples beliefs and feel like everyone should raise their children on those beliefs(within reason). I personally belive there are enough baby foods and varieties to raise a baby on veggies in addition to normal baby formula. I think vegan parents should expose babies to meat varieties and let the children decide when they are a little older, what they want to eat. A 6 week old baby shouldn't have been on baby food to begin with. Furthermore, baby formula would have provided all the necessary nutrition needed at that age. I think the parents of that poor baby were starving it from formula. By the way, what the hell were they giving the baby as a breast milk/ formula substitute?|||A baby should be breast fed for the first 2 years of life.To give a child human breastmilk doesn't go against vegan ethics,so I don't see why they didn't breastfeed.
Vegan parenting
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This is Nyjah Huston,(12 year old very close to becoming a pro skateboarder),a vegan since birth
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You should also keep in mind that mcdonald's makes 40% of it's profits from happy meals,and who eats happy meals?KIDS!.|||Veganism is quite healthy for babies and children.
Idiots are not healthy for babies.
Everyone, vegan or no, understands that soy-milk is a supplement to cows milk, NOT a supplement to formula or complete nutrition.
Just as I am sure there have been plenty of idiots who have killed their babies by using cows milk, these idiots killed their baby by feeding them only soy-milk (and apples or some nonsense.
Some people should not be allowed to breed... including several of the meat-eating answerers on this question.
I personally could never force an innocent child to eat animal flesh, but that is just me. They can make that decision when they are old enough to understand what it is all about.
:)|||I don't think I will feed my baby meat. If for some reason it NEEDS it to stay healthy and alive then of course I would but If he/she ever WANTS to eat meat then it is really their desicion (sp) what they eat so I wouldn't really have a problem with it as long as they knew what the poor animals really go through. It's just that I am a vegetarian and am completely against animal cruelty.|||What we "think" isn't important. It's what we "know" that matters. The science of proper diet is complicated, and most especially for people who for one reason or another choose to eliminate all animal products from their diet. Read this
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/people/鈥?/a>|||What do you mean you wouldnt "push vegetarianism on your kids"? if theyre still too young to make their own decisions, then you're pushing meat on them. Parents are *always* making decisions for their kids.
Vegans just like other parents do what they think is the best solution for their kids.
A child can be raised perfectly well on a healthy vegan diet. Much better than on hormone-stuffed meat and cows milk meant for baby cows, not humans.
What about millions of people with all kinds of diseases that result from eating meat? But I dont see omnivores commenting on that here. Did you know that most types of cancer and heart disease can be prevented if you just quit eating meat? And that obesity can be solved with veganism? What is your view on that?
Why are YOU pushing your kids to eat something that can so easily make them sick?
PS. no one can starve if they eat vegs, fruit, whole grains... I'm a vegan, and I'm not starving.|||They made a mistake of not giving the poor child breastmilk, that is God's order. A strictly plant based diet is what our Creator gave to our first parents in the garden in Eden (read Gen 1 and 2), and it was not until the flood that flesh food was allowed, for one can not grow a garden in a flood (read Gen 7 and 9). Flesh is so unhealthy that how can we eat of it and give glory to God at the same time? One case that seems against God's natural diet and Satan uses the media to televise it to the world. But how many thousands upon thousands die each day to the horrible results of flesh foods and other choice vices of individuals nowadays, that make big profits for many of the world's leaders? When will we awake to see the signs of the times?|||Although first hand I do not know any vegan parents practicing this with their babies, using logic and life experience I DO think that there are successful vegans who feed their babies only vegan approved items and can still manage to keep them healthy through that source of energy. From what I understand, there are ways to go about it if you do enough research to supplement your daily need for each vitamin and nutrient needed.
As for the allegations regarding this being an inappropriate way to feed a baby~ I think its nonsense. I would have to agree with your point in that the baby was just not fed enough. Parents need to do their research in dealings with feeding a baby vegan sure only I'm sure, but I believe it is possible.|||Vegan is too extreme for children, they're still growing and need all their nutrition (especially proteins, dairy, etc.) Once a person is full grown, then it doesn't matter.|||There are healthy ways to feed a baby without a baby starving to death. When a baby is small especially 6 weeks old that baby needs all the vitamins and nutrients it can get. Eating organic food is healthy.|||I saw that news article, and those people are idiots. A true vegan would know to have more than soymilk and water in the house-their cupboards were completely empty of any food at all. However, that said, it pisses me off that they targeted them as vegans-what about the parents of obese kids who give their kids a diet of sugary soda, fast food, and junk food! No one blames the parents of neglect in those cases. I think a baby could be raised as nature intended-on breast milk for the first 12 months or so, then whole grains and healthy vegetables and proteins. Yes, I think a baby can be (and should be) raised vegan. The couple in that case was clearly just ignorant and uninformed.|||Infants need fat in their diet. It's in breast milk, so why would anyone think they could be strictly vegan?|||i work at a baby store, and they do sell soy-formula. its for lactose intolerant babies. idk why they couldnt just have used that.|||I meet a vegan baby (~ 2 years old) and I couldn't tell he was vegan. I would assume he was breast fed though.|||Im not convinced that a baby's needs could be met with vegan alternatives. I am open to being shown that it can work though.
If someone did enough research and was getting regular health checks I would be all for them putting their baby on a vegan diet--I feel that way about any baby feeding though. We have proven time and again people do stupid stuff with babies-just make sure the kid is being taken care of and there is no issue with me.|||It's not something I would do, and if for some reason I did I would do so under strict doctor supervision.|||I'm surprised that so many people still believe that vegans do not receive enough nutrients/protein/etc. With the exception of vitamin B12, there is absolutely nothing nutritional that a typical meat-eater's diet contains that a vegan diet does not, and a simple daily multi vitamin easily takes care of that.
Vegans are not martyrs sacrificing their own health for their beliefs (although many surely would, they simply don't have to) Vegans understand that animal products are completely unnecessary and therefore the suffering and harm that comes to animals as a result is completely unnecessary.
Saying that a vegan diet is OK for adults, but you shouldn't "force" your child to suffer is like saying that "If you don't want to eat candy bars and soda pop, that's fine, but you shouldn't deprive your child". I think that "forcing" your child to eat healthy is called good parenting. The main problem is that so many people are misinformed and believe that a vegan diet is unhealthy. That is simply not true. (Although vegans obviously can eat unhealthy diets just like meat-eaters - a proper diverse vegan diet is quite healthy)
That newborn baby did not die because his parents didn't feed him enough hamburgers. He died because they deliberately did not feed him. (hence the murder charge, not manslaughter) Newborn babies need only mother's breast milk (their mother's, not some cow's mother) or at the very least a formula, which there are vegan alternatives.
According to wiki (link below)...
"The American Dietetic Association considers well planned vegan diets "appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy and lactation,"[29] but recommends vegan mothers supplement for iron, vitamin D, and vitamin B12"
A little vitamin supplementation (which I believe is recommended for most if not all pregnant mothers?) Is all that is required.
Remember, vegans are against suffering, and deliberately starving your baby to death is completely opposite anything remotely vegan.|||I hadn't heard that story. That is very sad indeed :(
If the baby was breast fed as babies are meant to be then I don't think there would be a problem with the baby being introduced to a vegan diet at around 6 months old but nursing should be extended until at least a year old and preferably beyond in a vegan household because soy milk is just unsuitable for babies.
Or if breast feeding is not an option then a vegan couple should at least break the rules for their baby because a suitable formula based on cows milk is the next best thing after human breast milk. Soy is just unsuitable.
The problem with soy milk is trypsin inhibitors which are growth inhibitors and soy is known to have some adverse effects on the thyroid gland. Also, it is loaded with phytoestrogens, which mimic the female hormone oestrogen. All in all it is not suitable for young children except as a rare treat.|||The way I see it. Meat-eaters that grow up to be meat-eaters don't keep their children on any other diet but what they eat. So why can't vegetarians/vegans do the same?
My kids are going to grow up as vegetarians until they turn 13 (which is when I made my decision). Then they can choose to stay vegetarian or eat meat, knowing full well that I will not be cooking or using my money for them to eat meat.|||I think those parents were just plain stupid. Soy milk and apple juice are NOT at all a good thing to feed to a baby for its nourishment. Babies need breast milk or formula. However, breast milk from a vegan mother may not contain enough protein for the baby. It's fine to be a vegan or vegetarian, but a baby has basic nutritional needs that only breast milk or formula can give it. Breast milk is important for preventing allergies, as well.
What do I think? Babies should not start out vegans (who don't drink milk), because they need milk to develop properly.|||OK, im not a vegetarian but a baby needs a well balanced diet. And do vegans not believe in giving their baby breast milk??? Thats why a woman produces milk, to feed her child. Thats all a new born needs.|||I read this news story about it...
"Fulton prosecutor Chuck Boring said the verdict isn't a condemnation of veganism, a strict form of vegetarianism that doesn't allow the consumption or use of animal products. Instead, jurors believed prosecutors' assertions that the couple intentionally neglected and underfed the child and then tried to use the lifestyle as a shield.""The vegan diet is fine," Boring said after the verdict in the Georgia case. "These parents lied about what they fed him. He just was not fed enough."
It sounds like these people were just terrible parents who should never have had a child to begin with. There are cases of children neglected and murdered by starvation every year by their meat-eating parents. It has nothing to do with the food philosophy, it is the lack of food, period. The parents should go to jail for life. How sad that the meat eaters are now grabbing at this straw to try to beat us down. How about the millions of parents who are killing their kids by feeding them nothing but animal fat and empty calories? Of course nothing will be done to them.|||I think that vegans have to be especially aware of nutritional content. And I would also like to make not that vegans and vegetarians have very different dietary restrictions. Infants/children need more nutrients than adults do.
I honestly also believe that parents should not impose this on their children. It might sound crazy, but I believe it is a learned prejudice. Humans have lived on other animals (and themselves on occasions and in certain cultres) for centuries. Everything should be offered to a child despite your own beliefs. I understand that people feel that "nothing with a face" should be eaten, but what if we took that further. Right now the extreme Islamics are on the radar. Does it mean that our children should not be able to expore this? No. We would want to monitor what they see, do and explore, but completely not allowing them to partake in it makes them ignorant.
I know this is more drastic than not eating meat, but it is not our choice to decide what our children choose. As parents we can only guide, suggest and provide thoughful information.|||I am the mother of two children raised vegan since birth .. and now my 2 1/2 year old grandson also raised vegan since birth ... first where is this misconception that breast feeding your baby is Not vegan ? Of course it IS vegan .. second that child was 6 weeks old and weigh 3 1/2 pounds (who was born at home and obviously had no doctors care) .. that is tragic , it was starvation, it was murder and it was not being vegan that killed that poor baby .. it was murder by bad parents .. for heavens sake my sons were born bigger....both over 8 lbs and my grandson over 8 lbs at birth as well ........ and yes my sons survived healthy as could be ! now 30 and 24 ..still vegan ...still healthy ... about 50 percent of ALL children are allergic to cows milk and given soy substitutions (as myself and 2 of my sisters..never had dairy) so what does that tell you ... those parents were sentenced to life as I believe all vegans would agree they should have been ... so please Do not blame vegans and our diet , .. anymore then every child that is starved to death by an omnivore .. do we blame their diet choice for the babies death .. we simply say they were murdered by bad people who happen to be parents !!|||There is no such thing as a healthy vegan baby, and it is not healthy to be a vegan if you are under 13.|||veganism is no good for babies or kids.they are not getting enough nutrients it is dangerous and unhealthy not to have a varied balanced diet|||The 44 years i've been living, I have never, ever heard of a
vegan baby. What is that? Boy! Alot of you young folks come
up with stupid questions, I never heard of.|||Yeah not a great idea. Humans need nutrients and vitamins. You can't make that choice for a new baby. If veg then why is it starvation? Portion size?
I am on a vegetarian/vegan diet for my cholesterol levels. I am trying to lose about two pounds within the next 2 weeks week and a half. In the few weeks I plan to lose five. I am seeing a specialist doctor and regular doctor. I need to lose about forty pounds. It was 262 last time and god forbid it is higher. My question is apart from losing weight and exercising/diet alone would it lower my levels significantly if I follow a vegan diet within the next month or more? I do drink soy milk but it has no cholesterol anyway. I am going to try no diary and eggs and meat for a while or a few months at least or within the next three months. And if my cholesterol lowers significantly then that is good for me. Another question is, How many miligrams of cholesterol can a person safely ingest a week and be safe from the high levels, such as 15 mg?|||There is no set limit as to how much cholesterol you can consume in food. Everyone is different and thus cholesterol will be handled differently. Some people on a low cholesterol diet still have cholesterol issues and it is just familial. Some people can control there level with diet and exercise alone.|||How bad is cholesterol in eggs? How often should you eat eggs ? Should you be concerned about cholesterol in eggs ? Come find out visit www.cholesterolineggs.com Report Abuse
|||If your cholesterol level is below normal that is less than 200 do not try to lose,
You should also check your HDL cholestrol --- >40mg/dl
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These values are not absolute and can vary with the age and sex of the patient . Thus for a 30 year-old a cholesterol level of 240 can be considered high but can be taken as normal for a 60 year-old.
In a lot of cases it keeps you thinner because you live without the excess fat. But I myself am a vegetarian, not a vegan. I've been a vegetarian for almost half a year now and I don't push my views on everyone else, or try to be annoying. I just do it for me and the animals.|||veganism or vaganism?
Personally I'll take the second option, thank you very much|||No such thing.
http://www.eatliver.com/img/2010/6362.jp…|||Keeps you lean. Good for animals.
My friend has been vegan for over a year now. The will power she must possess..
I'm vegetarian, but I'm not sure I could be vegan..|||Hmmm....I will never become a vegan because I love meat and eggs and milk but I have nothing against vegans. I guess it just depends on how about eating animals and things that come from animals. =)|||I'm for it.
Very ethical. Good for the welfare of animals as well as your well-being. Helps maintain control over weight.|||I think that its a lifestyle choice and I really dont care unless they try to impose their beliefs on me.|||I'm not vegan myself, but I think it's a great thing for those that are.|||Yuck. Meat is good.|||Horrible i can't live without meat.|||I hate vegans|||For men: Gay
For women: Stupid|||Who cares|||I like my dairy..and my meat so it wouldn't work out to well xD.|||Way of life<3|||Whats that|||i like to throw meat at them.|||Good.|||They are annoying and stupid.|||pretty much stupid as hell
Veganism - if you avoid the fake foods. Fake meats and cheeses are expensive, but unnecessary.
Dried beans, brown rice and whole grains are very cheap. Particularly if you buy in bulk, they're under a dollar per pound, and a pound of dried beans yields about 15 servings, and a pound of rice about eight. Other staples like potatoes and pasta are also inexpensive.
Regular vegetarianism is also pretty cheap. A half gallon of milk is about $2.50 for eight servings, likely less if you can buy it in bulk. And eggs are about $1.50 - 2.00 per 12 servings. An issue is spoilage - milk and eggs might be cheaper in bulk, but they might spoil before you can finish the amount you bought. Grains and beans keep much longer; practically indefinitely if you keep the bugs out.
A pound of very inexpensive meat might be purchased for $1.00 a pound, but it's roughly four servings.
I can't really compare the price of fresh fruits and vegetables, because truth is, everybody needs to be eating a lot of these, whether vegan, vegetarian or omnivorous.|||Protein is the most expensive part of an omnivore diet. Pound for pound of protein, beans, legumes and tofu are far cheaper. Fish in Australia averages about $20 odd dollars a kilo and can go as high as $38 dollars a kilo (approx. 2lbs fish). A kilo of tinned cooked beans would cost $4. Meat is the same story.
You can cook simple, plain vegetarian/vegan food or expensive, fancy vegetarian/vegan food. A simple, varied vegetarian diet is much cheaper than a normal meat eater diet (unless they eat sausages/mince etc regularly).|||Vegetarianism.
Meat is expensive (compare 2 lbs of dried rice and beans to 1 lb of meat...now imagine how many meals you can make with it)
Vegans tend to purchase faux food, which gets pricey. If there are vegans who don't purchase faux cheese/sausage/burger/butter, then they would be cheaper, but most vegan blogs I've seen consistently use something artificial (Smart Balance is NOT healthy)|||Depends on what you eat. If you eat a lot of turkey or ground beef, meat is pretty cheap. If you eat ribeye steaks, it's pretty expensive.
If you live on beans and rice, it's pretty cheap. If you buy the fake burgers, bacon, etc., it's pretty expensive.
The optimum diet for humans is a balanced diet: some meat, some veggies, some fruit, limit processed grains and sugar. And, I'll bet, when you look at the cash register receipts, you'll find it's a pretty reasonably priced diet, too.|||Meat if you buy everything n season including the fruits and veggies. Right ow a bag of carrots where I live costs $5/ The same weight in chicken costs P2.50. Since chicken has higher calories, it takes less of it to get the same calories from the carrots. The carrots may fill you up faster because of bulk but you will get hungry faster and need to eat sooner. Combine both and you have healthy meal that will fill you up for a longer period of time.|||Reader,
Where do you live? You can't even get rice for a dollar a pound here. Fruits and vegetables are very expensive but you should eat them vegetarian or not. We spend about $40 a week just on fruit and veggies. Dollar for dollar if you need to feed yourself, eggs are the best source of protein. Rice and beans (or other legumes and grains are the next least expensive staple. Then comes milk. Then comes chicken and a lot of pork is relative inexpensive.
Also, vegetable matter is digested faster so, it passes through your system much quicker and therefore you wind up eating much greater quantities. I have been vegetarian and eaten meat. On the whole, I think it was more expensive to eat vegetarian.
Biggest food ripoffs: Bread...You can bake a loaf that will cost $5.00 for about fifty cents
Cereal...I can't live without it but it costs about 25 cents to make a $5.00 box
Beverages...Drink water and tea mostly.
Grow your own...I always have a garden and don't have to buy much produce in summer.|||meat. because u can eat everything. vegans are picky eaters
they want to know whats in every single cell in food
buying lotsa tofu., egg substitute, soy milk, butter substitute,
and other substitutes will cost u much|||Hi vegetarianism is cheaper in the long run as there are fewer hospital expenses|||Vegetarianism.|||Vegetarianism|||meat|||Meat|||i don't think non of these are cheaper.|||Vegan - There are 4 major categories of food in a plant-based (vegan) diet: legumes, whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. If you are willing to cook most of your own food and shop sensibly, most of these foods are less than $1.00 per pound. A plant-based diet is also higher in fiber, which makes it very filling. Eating these foods, instead of highly processed foods, is better for your health, so you will save money in that way as well.|||meat. makes your life worthless and you die faster, but you live a life worth a billion bucks for teh price of 20 bucks.
Sorry I need them for a project
any answers appreciated thank you very much
x|||roses are red
violets are blue
other animals eat meat
and so can you
But being a vegetarian
seems popular of late
instead of beef or chicken
just veggies on your plate
but please, just make sure
so you don't look like a fool
do it for compassion or health
not just to be cool
and please always remember
whatever you choose to do
that people may be different
but they need lovin' too
so fight for Bambi or Nemo
if that's the right thing to do
Just don't down burn buildings
As PETA wants you to..
Cos cops hate arsonists
and will take you to jail
if they catch you burning a lab
or sending someone hate mail
Because whatever you are
Vegan or vegetarian,it doesn't matter which
It won't do anyone any good
if you're in prison and someones (bleep)|||Most poems by Benjamin Zephaniah. He is a vegan.|||well its not a poem its a song
but meat is murder- the smiths
x|||I'll do you one now... hold on:
There once was a girl called MAU,
and she didn't want to kill a COW,
So she sat with her friend ELLIS,
eating some LETTUICE,
and she calls her self veggy-girl NOW
Oh well I tried!|||LOTS of animal cruelty poems hereee:
http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Sai鈥?/a>
:)|||disgusting|||roses are red violets are blue, meat for me but lentils for you|||Hey how about a song & video????? check out this webpage, these guys are so cool! www.myspace.com/govindasky
they have a song called "Let the Animals Keep Their Coats" & a video with same name. they are also veggies. hope this helps.
peace =>:)
hey, im looking for ideas of different images associated with veganism. im doing this collage thing and the ideas need to be artistic and cartoony..other then food, i have birds fleeing from cages, trees, flowers, nature....but im stumped...any ideas?|||Just root around PETA's website. There's plenty of symbology there. See source for link.
I recently decided to become vegan. I have been for several months now, But I'm finding it difficult to cope with and I believe it's effecting my schoolwork and other such things, but I don't want to quit now because everyone will ask me lots of questions and give me @#$%.
What can I do?|||what do you mean difficult to cope?
perhaps its your diet?
try getting a book on healthy foods for a vegan diet.
You can't survive on side dishes and have to cook yourself main meals that provide protein and iron.
perhaps you should go to your doctor and if you want to be vegan don't let them persuade you but help you to eat better foods. Ask for a blood test to check for iron, protein, calcium, b12, and zinc and more..
if done correctly living on and maintaining a vegan diet is not that hard.
Good luck|||You shouldn't be worried about peoples opinions. Instead you should ask yourself if the hard work your doing is worth it, since your helping animals. If you care about animals then veganism is worth it because you know your not supporting animal cruelty. But if its just health reasons, then you can slip up every once in a while. If youve been vegan for several months, its going to get easier soon. Just keep looking online for recipes so you dont get bored with it. The more you know, the easier it is. Look on PETA's Accidentally Vegan List to get a list of foods that are easy to come by at a grocery store. PETA's opinion about veganism, along with Mercy For Animals, is that if you try to avoid EVERYTHING then its hard on you and makes others see veganism as too difficult. If you boycott products that are 99.9% vegan, then this sends the message to the company that there is no market for these products that contain little to no animal products and they stop making them (causing more animals to suffer). So just try to avoid what you can, but dont go so crazy with it that you stop all together. Good luck!|||What you can do, and should do, is not worry so much about what others think. Is that the problem that's effecting you? Be secure with your choice and let the critic's words slide off of your back like water off a duck's back.
"Veganism, not the right choice?"--all depends. Is your choice more importsnt as you see it, or as "everyone" else sees it?|||Make sure you're eating healthy. Not eating the right amount of fruits and vegetables, along with proteins and vitamins and minerals, can greatly effect your concentration. Make sure that you take some kind of calcium, B-12, and iron supplement. [You can, however, get these from eating the right kinds of vegan foods.]
I get tired of other people's crap too, but I've learned to ignore it. It doesn't matter.|||There's no way a diet will affect your schoolwork unless you're not feeding yourself proper nutrition. The same is true with omnivores...if they eat crap, their studying will also be crap. You need to eat, eat, eat GOOD, HEALTHY food!
So do a little studying...on nutrition...and you'll be fine.|||eat better... you are ingesting fresh fruits and veggies.. right?
learn about what you are eating... most should before they dive into something they don't understand..
ignore the dingbats out there who preach gospels they can't even sing...
whenever someone gives me lip.. i just look up and down them.... then smile.
that does the trick 90% of the time.... (why? because obesity is an unfortunate and now overly common side effect of a processed food and meat diet.)
that's why it fails.|||Research how to stay healthy, what foods to eat. When I first went vegan I didn't do any research and ate fairly unhealthy but after a little I decided not to be slack and fix my diet up haha. Now I feel great, long as you eat decently you'll probably end up better off than before.|||is the diet affecting your schoolwork or the being singled out for being a vegan affecting your schoolwork? if you jumped from an omnivore to a vegan, maybe you should try being a vegetarian first and then go vegan. in this carnivore world its hard to be a vegan, menu planning is so much harder.|||try being a vegetarian. cutting out eggs and dairy is pretty hard. i mean, you cant even have milk chocolate.
btw if your doing this just for a health factor, you dont have to be so strict. its ok to break a rule every now and then.|||Eat lots of beans and corn bread to get your "heavy" nutrients. Eat lots of fresh fruit and veggies. Don't worry about what they or we say. It's your life.|||I'm not sure what you mean by "cope".
Go to the bloody library and get some recipe books, and start cooking. What's all this coping business?|||Get over yourself|||I would see a doctor.
Did you just up and go vegan? Because its best to ease into such a diverse change of diet.|||Eat what you want. Who cares if people will give you ****? Don't let people control you.|||let me write you a prescription for two n.a.d.s.|||I don't think it's effecting schoolwork unless your not eating right.
Did you know the consumption of meat, eggs, and dairy products has also been strongly linked to osteoporosis, Alzheimer's, asthma, and male impotence. Scientists have also found that vegetarians have stronger immune systems than their meat-eating friends; this means that they are less susceptible to everyday illnesses like the flu. Vegetarians and vegans live, on average, six to 10 years longer than meat-eaters.
According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the consumption of meat causes 70 percent of the food poisoning cases in the United States each year. This is not surprising when you consider the fact that meat can be contaminated with a host of dangerous bacteria—including E. coli, salmonella, and campylobacter. Sadly, adults aren’t the only ones who feel the effects of this contaminated food. Recent outbreaks of E. coli have shown that these pathogens can be deadly when consumed by children.
Here are some veggielicious Lunchbox Dishes
* Spread some veggie ham with vegan cream cheese and roll up for a fun and easy-to-eat lunch box treat.
* Make a veggie dog in a blanket—wrap a veggie dog in a crescent roll and bake. Pack ketchup for dipping.
* Create crunchy triple-decker PB&Js: Cut rice or corn cakes in half with a sharp knife and spread on jam and a nut butter, and then top with the other half.
* Spread bread with eggless mayonnaise (try Nayonaise or Vegenaise) and pile on veggie deli slices—such as faux ham, faux turkey, or “phony baloney”—and Tofutti American soy cheese slices (www.Tofutti.com). Cut into triangles or fun shapes using cookie cutters.
* Make a mock chicken-salad sandwich with Morningstar Farms Meal Starters Chik’n Strips or Worthington’s Chic-ketts, available at health-food stores.
* Pack P.B. Slices (www.PBSlices.com), individually wrapped slices of peanut butter, with bread or crackers; kids can combine them at lunchtime.
* On those hectic mornings, toss a Smucker’s frozen PB&J sandwich in your child’s lunchbox; it will be thawed and ready to eat by lunchtime.
* Make burrito roll-ups by spreading tortillas with Tofutti Better Than Cream Cheese; add olives or diced veggies, roll up, and cut into bite-size pieces. Olé!
* Make your own “good lunch” by packing meat-free Smart Deli Pepperoni slices (www.Lightlife.com), soy cheese slices, and crackers.
* Spread a bagel with Tofutti Better Than Cream Cheese, top with veggie pepperoni, and cut into halves or quarters.
* Make a mock tuna-salad sandwich by substituting Worthington’s Tuno (Available at health-food stores or at www.NoMeat.com) for tuna in your favorite recipe.
* For a healthy alternative to egg-salad sandwiches, try eggless “egg” salad: Mash together tofu, soy mayo, turmeric, salt, and spices. Click here for a recipe.
* Pair veggie kebabs (try cherry tomatoes, cucumber slices, sweet peppers, and baked tofu cubes) with “ranch” dip (combine Tofutti Sour Supreme with McCormick Spring Onion Dip Mix—it’s vegan!).
* Cut mini-pitas in half, and stuff them with hummus and chopped tomatoes, falafel, or your favorite sandwich filling.
* Prepare an easy pasta salad by combining cooked spiral pasta with diced cucumbers, tomatoes, and/or peppers and chunks of baked tofu, veggie Canadian bacon, or Morningstar Farms Meal Starters “chicken” or “steak” strips; mix with your favorite vinaigrette.
* “Shake ’N Bake” mock chicken chunks instead of the real thing. Several Shake ’N Bake flavors are vegan—just use chopped Chic-ketts, Morningstar Farms Meal Starters Chik’n Strips, or White Wave’s wheat meat (www.WhiteWave.com); it’s great hot or cold.
* Pack hard breadsticks with dip, such as pizza sauce, peanut butter, or hummus.
* Make a mini pizza by topping toasted English muffins (Wonder Bread-brand muffins are vegan) with a dollop of pizza sauce, a slice of soy cheese, and veggie pepperoni.
Hot Ideas for the Thermos
* Make some homemade “sausage” gravy and pack some biscuits for a comforting cold-weather meal.
* Fill the thermo with veggie meatballs in tomato sauce. Pack it with a roll to make a veggie meatball sub.
* Spice up lunchtime by filling your kids' thermos with vegan taco meat or refried beans. Pack taco shells and their favorite taco toppings. Try Tofutti Sour Supreme and salsa.
* Warm your kids up on cold winter days by heating Hormel canned vegetarian chili and packing it in a thermos. Pack a baked potato so they can top their spuds.
* For another easy heat-and-eat treat, try Campbell’s tomato or vegetable soup. (Please be sure to check labels—some soups contain beef or chicken broth.)
* When you have a little more time, make alphabet soup using vegetable or faux-chicken broth instead of chicken stock and diced mock chicken. Make a pot over the weekend, then reheat it on Monday morning to start your kids’ week off right.
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has anybody got any recent youtube videos from england about veganism and cruelty towards the animals we use for food? ive seen earthlings, but its an old video and its from america. any recent research would be good too.|||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMyJNR2Dr鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erQKWPvpN鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfhzi0BEu鈥?/a>
There you go (:|||marissa.
the first one did not work, the 2nd one is awesome! i especially liked the dog and the political sign flash clip!
the 3rd was good for teens!
yay!!
So, if you are a vegan for ethical and not health reasons - could you eat cheese and other food products made from human breast milk since the woman gave her 'permission' to be milked.
Yeah, weird, but purely hypothetical. I'm not asking if you could eat the product, only if it would be permissible.|||oh yum, that sounds so veganly delicious
my guess is these "vegans" have never seen a dairy cow with utters so swollen she can hardly wait her turn to be milked... cows like being emptied too, ya know...|||I am off and on again vegan for ethical reasons and that totally doesn't appeal to me at all. Vegans don't eat anything that came from an animal, so "technically" I don't think it would be vegan, but ethically I think it would be okay. Regardless, you won't ever find me eating anything like that - although in reality it *does* make more sense than eating foods from cow's breast milk, lol.
"my guess is these "vegans" have never seen a dairy cow with utters so swollen she can hardly wait her turn to be milked... cows like being emptied too, ya know..." - It's a vicious cycle, really. If cows milk wasn't used for human consumption there wouldn't be dairy cows with swollen udders as their calves wouldn't have been ripped from them at birth for veal. If mama keeps her baby cow and it weans itself as it ages - no swollen udders.|||I think since one is already eating lots and lots of bugs and probably has at least one real-leather something or other (car interior, chair, wallet, shoes...), that the "made from breast milk" would probably be a lesser worry.
I'm vegan and whenever I talk to my dad about the health benefits of being vegetarian, he always brings up this same point. It's around the lines of this:
"If vegatarianism/veganism is so healthy, then why aren't the world's best athletes vegetarians? They're at the peak of physical fitness. Wouldn't you think their nutritionists would seek out the best diet possible to improve the athlete's endurance?"
I did a little research on olympic athletes who are vegetarians and all I came up with was this guy named Carl Lewis. Does anybody know anything else about professional athletes and the vegetarian diet? |||Vegetarian athletes
Ruth Heidrich, Three-Time Ironman
Debbie Lawrence, 5k Record Holder
Jim Kaat, Baseball Player
Tony Larussa, Baseball Manager
Hank Aaron, Baseball Player
Bill Pearl, Bodybuilder
Marv Levey, Buffalo Bills Coach
Robert Parnish, Center (Bulls)
Joe Namath, Football Player
Lawrence Phillips, Football Player (49ers)
Steve Bellamy, Founder of the Tennis Channel
Surya Bonaly, French Figure Skater
Brendan Brazier, Ironman Triathlete
Sally Eastall, Marathon Runner
Andreas Cahling, Mr. International Bodybuilder
Carl Lewis, Olympic Track Star
Edwin Moses, Olympic Champion
Leroy Burrell, Olympic Champion
Murray Rose, Olympic Swimmer
Pat Reeves, Power Lifter
Bill Manetti, Powerlifting Champion
Ed Templeton, Pro Skateboarder
Mike Manzoori, Pro Skateboarder
Brian Anderson, Pro Skateboarder
Jamie Thomas, Pro Skateboarder
Forest Kirby, Pro Skateboarder
Brian Sumner, Pro Skateboarder
Andrew Reynolds, Pro Skateboarder
Jen O'brien, Pro Skateboarder
Matt Field, Pro Skateboarder
Chris Lambert, Pro Skateboarder
Brad Staba, Pro Skateboarder
Geoff Rowley, Pro Skateboarder
Rick Mc Crank, Pro Skateboarder
Moses Itkonen, Pro Skateboarder
Sergei Trudnowski, Pro Skateboarder
Laban Pheidas, Proskater
Steve Berra, Proskater
Anastasia Ashley, Surfer
Martina Navratilova, Tennis Player
Bille Jean King, Tennis Champion
Peter Burwash, Tennis Champion
John Salley, Toronto Raptors
Lucy Stephens, Tri-athlete
Stan Price, World Record Bench Press
Killer Kowalski, Wrestler
Is he a football fan? Just show him this:
"I have been a vegetarian for a few years. Fred Dryer of the Rams has been one for ten years. It shows you don't need meat to play football."
-JOE NAMATH, LEGENDARY NFL QUARTERBACK.
|||There is an article of a vegan body builder. I'll find it for you.
http://blog.nutritiondata.com/ndblog/200鈥?/a>
Given that the veganism constitute only a small percentage of the population along with professional sports, testimonies such as these will be uncommon. But given that they exist shows that atheletes can survive on a vegetarian diet.
Anyways, he's wrong. Famous professional athletes:
Surya Bonaly - Olympac figure skater
Roger Brown, professional football player
Peter Burwash, tennis pro, Davis Cup winner|||Huh? Sorry, the logic just isn't there.
Here are some other examples.
You can't just shrug these off.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sto鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.macdanzig.net/bio.php
http://www.scottjurek.com/career.php
It sounds like you have been telling your dad that being vegetarian is **HEALTHIER** instead of just as good as any other diet.
Just because someone eats meat, it doesn't mean that they'll eat enough to kill themselves prematurely.
Make sure it's clear that chemically and physiologically, both sides can be optimum but your side contributes to less suffering.
Let's get this straight, there are no health benefits to being vegetarian there are only health benefits to eating a **healthy** diet. Someone that eats meat once a month is not a vegetarian. Some people eat meat less than often and some do very frequently but live very long lives. Using the health argument is like trying to set yourself up to look bad.
http://www.veganoutreach.org
http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/in鈥?/a>|||Salim Stoudimire is an NBA basketball player, Desmond Howard won the Heisman Trophy and Super Bowl MVP, Scott Jurek is a champion long distance ultra marathon runner. Stan Price is a champion weight lifter. With Carl Lewis Price and Jurek it shows you can be vegan or vegetarian and be strong fast and have endurance. |||Vegans/vegetarians comprise a small percentage of the population. If you apply the same statistics to athletes, then it stands to reason that there won't be too many vegan/vegetarian athletes. At least no more than the general population proportion.
But a country like India would definitely have a greater percentage since it has a larger proportion of vegans/vegetarians in its general population.
Again, it will come down to individual choice.
|||Are you kidding me? Tell you dad to get a new argument. There are TONS of veg*n athletes.
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/
http://www.veganathlete.com/vegan_vegeta鈥?/a>
http://sportyvegans.blogspot.com/2008/01鈥?/a>
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sto鈥?/a>|||Carl Lewis is a pretty impressive one, given that he's a nine-time Olympic gold medalist, SI's "Olympian of the Century," and the IOC's "Sportsman of the Century." His first season as a vegan he traded the title of "World's Fastest Human" back and forth with another runner (I'd have to dig around to find out who) wha was also vegan.
Ruth Heidrich and Brendan Brazier, both Ironman triathlon champions, are vegan.
Prince Fielder, a baseball player, just recently went veg*n (vegan, I think, possibly vegetarian) as did football player, Tony Gonzalez. Mac Danzig, a vegan, won his weight class in the UFC last year. If you google "vegan bodybuilding" you'll find several sites.
You'll find some more here:
http://www.famousveggie.com/people.aspx
and here:
http://www.ivu.org/people/sports/index.h鈥?/a>|||Martina Navratilova was vegan throughout her career, and I think we know how successful a tennis player she has been.
Pat Reeves, champion body builder, is likewise a vegan.
Most athletes do not receive education from vegan nutritionists, nor are the benefits of a vegan diet widely known or publicised in sport at present. The nutritionists who work with these athletes then don't know about vegan diets, and so this isn't passed on to the athletes.This is despite the benefits this may have for them.
Oh, and it's also worth thinking about the health sacrifices some athletes make, in terms of eating a meat and protein rich diet in their youth. This can cause them severe health problems after finishing their careers. Sad that most don't know that this can happen. Add that to a proportion of athletes that sadly use drugs to enhance performance, and it's clear that that "picture of health" athletes visibly present may not be what's going on on in the inside.
I had lunch today with a couple of friends and their baby daughter. She's 5 months old and soon ready to have solids.
My friends are hardcore vegans concerning food,lifestyle etc,and I've always admired them for their convictions.
They told me they plan to raise their baby on a vegan diet.
Obviously, I have no right to comment on the baby's up-bringing but it does intrigues me.
Certainly, Veganism is a strong diet and you have to be careful to have enough nutrients and proteins to stay healthy. But a baby?
Do you know any baby on a vegan diet? What are your opinions?|||Actually, we are omnivores, not carnivores! we can eat a wide diet.
It is possible to raise a healthy baby on a vegan diet but it also incredibly difficult- especially when it comes to calcium. Protein is easier to replace.
But, if she is being breastfed, then there is no issue. Her mum will be making enough calcium (and other nutrients) to meet the baby's needs.
Without breastfeeding it would be very difficult and they would need to keep a close eye on her growth and development and be prepared to change her diet if necessary.
Personally, I don't agree with forcing your children to be vegan or vegetarian. A choice like this should be there own. However, I don't believe there is anything wrong with simply only providing the food which fits into your belief system, in your home. As long as the baby continues to grow well and healthily, there should be no problem. |||As a vegetarian -- who was a vegetarian baby and who now has a vegetarian baby -- I am reluctant to dump on bringing children up vegan, but. As succinctly put here:
"I鈥檓 not against adult or older-child vegan lifestyles
but nutritionwise, babies are not meant to be
vegans"
http://www.babyreference.com/BeyondBreas鈥?/a>
Even Dr Spock didn't advise veganism for children under 2 after he went very pro-vegan...
Is baby breastfed, will baby keep nursing through the toddler years? That would make the matter of less concern if yes.|||yes, i know a mother of 7 and nowadays the youngest is lik 12 years old, and they are all very healthy. you just have to be really careful and make sure you eat all the nutrients to be healthy. and the baby, they should just breastfeed her until she's 2 or so and she will be good. |||They are sick, the human body is a Carnivore, weather we like it or not, we are just like any other animal on this planet that is Carnivore
Thats why our teeth are the way they are.
To me, they are guilty of neglect.
Once the child grows up he/she can make up there own mind, it is not for any parent to choose for their child NOT to follow nature
*edit*
lol Laura@FYP, love your answer!!!!|||As long as they do this in coordination with the baby's doctor and get regular advice and check-ups, I don't see why not.
I would not do it myself as I'm not vegetarian, I have no experience of veganism (would probably only succeed in starving the whole family) and basically, we all love a good steak at times! Baby too.|||Paul C is 100% right, it is not for a parent to force their child to go against nature and impose their own views on the baby|||i was veggie for ten years, but i would never have brought my baby up as one. i believe that it is a personal choice and when the child is old enough to understand then they can make their own decisions then. i think that a vegan diet for a baby is too extreme.|||I have 3 nieces who are being raised vegan and they're happy, healthy and doing fine. When you're vegan or raising your children as vegans you have to be sure to take extra care and make sure all their nutritional needs are met. Calcium is found in plants, not just dairy. Green leafy vegetables such as broccoli, collards, kale, mustard greens, turnip greens, and bok choy or Chinese cabbage are good sources of calcium. As for protein? Beans, nuts, legumes. So raising a child as a vegan can be done.
And why is it considered natural to eat animals to begin with? I don't have a problem with people who choose to eat animals but I have a problem with people putting down those of us who choose not to and who choose to raise their children not eating animals. You never hear of "mad vegetable disease" or any other life threatening disease as a result of eating vegetables. But it seems like every other day there's some sort of disease found that makes animals unsafe. And how many vegetarians do you know that are morbidly obese? Just some of the advantages of being a vegetarian. But we MUST be wrong to even consider raising our children that way. We're depriving them of the many diseases that could potentially ruin their lives and possibly kill them. My bad.
And by the way, humans weren't always carnivores. The fact that our teeth are the way they are is an adaptation. We used to be vegans but that's a different topic...
|||Humans are not carnivores!! We are omnivores- we can survive on a meat or plant based diet.
And yes, I see Pauls point, our teeth are EXACTLY like a lion or dogs *note the sarcasm*
I was vegan throughout my pregnancy, and we are currently raising our daughter as a vegetarian. However, raising her as vegan is something we are considering. She is still breastfed, and I consider her diet to be a very healthy one.
Humans were never designed to need the milk of another species. We are the only species to consume the milk of another on a regular basis, and the only species to comsume it after infancy. That is a cultural habit that has developed during civilisation. Cows milk is not necessary for nutrition.
The calcium factor is one that has been engrained and pushed on us by milk companies.
And as for cooked meat, well dont even get me started! lol If we are really carnivores as Paul suggests, why dont we eat flesh in the raw a the other carnivores do? No, we have to cook it first, killing off any nutrients it may contain anyway. When was the last time you chowed down on a raw steak Paul?
It is perfectly possible for an infant to thrive on a vegan diet, I would say it is very important that she is being breastfed however, which I am guessing that she is.
it's way weird
very very strange eating rules
~|||The reason why they believe it is wrong is because Humans are Self Aware, we know that we exist and give reasons to why we feel pain, joy, and such. Most people do not know that we are indeed animals, we all eat, breath, and mate but we are above other animals so people do not consider themselves so.
Some see that perspective and say, Hey it is wrong to hurt animals they feel pain too! Well the thing is even without humans they will still eat each other,
BUT it is true the methods for slaughtering animals are cruel and inhuman because again most humans do not care for animals because we think we are above them.
The mental part aside - It is an interesting way to live life because humans can eat meat but do not need to because we can simply substitute it with Soy for protein but there are still some things that do not come with vegetables such as Carbohydrates and such.|||If that is the lifestyle that you want to follow go for it. Just please, don't hammer on other people for their lifestyle choices. I am a meat eater and the Bible tells me I can be. If you have a different slant on things, fine. I won't push meat eating on you if you won't try and tell me how wrong I am because I do eat meat.|||I think it is rather counter productive. I understand the need to be vegetarian (for health reasons and "for the animals") but milk and eggs are relatively harmless biproducts (if from the correct farms)
It makes nurtrition a little harder than it needs to be, but I applaud those who do it.|||I'm gonna eat my dead animal...You eat what ever that is. Don't bother me about your choices and I won't slap you with what ever dead thing I happen to be eating at the time. Good? Good.|||Being vegan can be soo healthy but you have to make sure you are getting all your benefits like protein and different calciums because it's only so important for your health.|||I think its fine for the people who want to do it
idk why people have so many "opinions" on what others do anyway|||I don't have anything against it or people who are vegan.|||It is up to the people who follow that style.
Not for me though.|||They kill plants
i'm vegan. what are the reasons you are vegan? just outt of interest|||FOR THE ANIMALS:
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Today the majority of farmed animals are:
-confined to the point that they can barely move,
-denied veterinary care,
-mutilated without painkillers,
-and finally slaughtered often while fully conscious.
FOR OUR EARTH:
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According to Dr. David Brubaker, PhD, at Johns Hopkins University’s Center for a Livable Future, “The way that we breed animals for food is a threat to the planet. It pollutes our environment while consuming huge amounts of water, grain, petroleum, pesticides and drugs. The results are disastrous.”
FOR MY HEALTH:
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“Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein, as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer.”
--American Dietetic Association, June 2003 position paper|||I went vegetarian because my body could no longer tolerate meat, and I got truly disgusted by some things I read.
I went vegan a few months later when I learned of the dairy-veal connection, how the cows kept for their milk are treated, and how the hens kept for their eggs are treated.|||I dont think what they do to animals is right but the biggest reason is my health. There are so many steriods, and medicine and crap loaded up in the animals that your not really eating meat. Its like man made meat|||Ethical reasons mainly. I hated calling myself an avid animal lover yet still consumed animal products. I hate the fact that billions of animals are killed horribly just for my taste buds and my convenience.|||I refuse to support the meat industry, I do it for my health, and the enviornment.|||I am vegan because I refuse to support the meat industry.|||The way the meat industry treats animals...it's horrid.|||becuase i am, i needed a reason?
I've heard of a level 5 vegan but I'm not sure what it means.|||I am not sure I'm just starting out myself. I found a very interesting website
http://www.fourgreensteps.com/infozone/lifestyle-health/what-vegans-eat-article|||Its a quote from the simpsons when Lisa befriends Jesse the tree hugging vegan & Lisa stays up a tree to impress him by stopping it being cut down.
The whole scene (can be youtubed) is actually extremely smart & shows the simpsons humor & writing skills, they portray a stereotypical vegan spot on, but within that stereotype the writing is aimed at ridiculing people for holding stereotypes.
Lisa: ''oh you do yoga?''
Jesse: ''yeah but i was doing it before it was cool''
*Further on in the scene*
Jesse: ''i'm a level 5 vegan, i won't eat anything that casts a shadow''
Lisa: ''Cool, i'm a vegetarian''
Jesse: 'awkwardly laughs whilst rubbing neck ''Yeah...well its a start''|||Urm, no.
There's someone who opposes animal commodification, and lives a lifestyle *not* involving:
buying or consuming meat, dairy, eggs, honey, or foods containing them
buying or wearing fur, leather, silk, wool, or clothing trimmed in them
buying or using consumer products from companies whose distributors conduct animal toxicity tests
buying companion animals from breeders or pet shops
frequenting zoos, circuses, rodeos, aquariums, and other venues where animals are held in captivity or forced to perform for human profit,
and then there are NON-vegans.|||No.
Did it come from this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtuMIaOGR…
Of course not. There are different types of Vegans, but not levels.
There's Vegan, Raw Vegan, Fruitarian but not a level 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. You can name yourself one but it doesn't mean it exists.|||I havent found anything substantial to support that notion. From what I understand, a vegan is one who will only eat vegetables, fruits, nuts, and seeds.|||That Level Five Vegan? That was a joke from the Simpsons. There aren't "levels," but there are some types.
The most common types are standard vegan, raw vegan, and fruitarian.|||Level five?
Pft, I got to level 6 by defeating the Broccoli Demon.|||Nope, a vegan is a vegan. There are levels of vegetarianism though.|||A level 5 vegan doesn't eat anything that casts a shadow. It's a quote from "The Simpsons." They also pocket mulch.|||Not sure if there are different level but vegan is already pretty stream.|||Well there is vegan diet only and vegan lifestyle where you don't wear leather etc.|||Yeah right, the Simpsons is a great source of facts
This is a troll right, surely you're not really that stupid|||Yes there are 5 levels or more.
I've just changed to veganism Sunday.
I've tried vegetarian before, but it didn't last long.
But this time I cannot stand to eat any meat, it disgusts me.
Its been hard though... mainly because I haven't told my parents yet, and so i've been eating the side dishes without protein for a week.
What way did you let your parents know about wanting to be a vegan?
And i'm on a budget when buying food.
What are some cheap vegan products?|||Well I've been a vegetarian for a year, and when I turn 18, in about 3 years, I want to go vegan...since I can buy my own food. I'd first tell them you want to be a vegetarian, and then gradually go into veganism. I would make a packet of research on your choice, that's what I did. And my parents and I read the book "A Teenager's Guide to going vegetarian." (Look on amazon!) It's a good book!
PROTEIN:
Nuts, beans, edamame, soymilk, PB, fruit|||go to burger king a get a burger
you know you want to|||how do you know you've not been eating protein?
it's real hard to avoid protein since it's in almost everything.
watch out for vegan products... some aren't vegan friendly.
(read those labels.. )
learn what those chemicals and additives mean on those labels.. (jot them down then research them in google.com)
also start here.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=鈥?/a>
don't listen to the propaganda.. i've been a vegetarian for a long time (no meat... no dairy) i've not suffered a protein issue.. matter of fact i have an abundance of protein and should cut down on it...
BEANS! SOY! NUTS! jam packed to the hilt with protein... some of your green vegetables.. leafy and not.. packed! some fruits are jammed with protein.
it's not a issue.. whoever started this protein fabrication about veganism and vegetarianism.. is probably the same guy who started telling kids that smoking pot makes you grow boobs.|||First off, go to the book store and buy a bunch of books on veganism and starting off. If you are seriously about being a vegan, i would strongly suggest going to see a nutritionalist -- they will be able to help you know which foods to eat and vitamins to take in order to maintain a balanced diet.
I have been veggie for 13 years now and love it, but i would suggest you start with being a vegetarian for a while, see how that goes and learn the ropes and then make the jump to veganism in a bit when you have a better grasp on things.
Please be careful in the meantime about taking a good multivitamin (you need the B complex especially b-12 as well as calcium). Also, make sure you aren't eating just junk food and carbs. Dark greens like spinach and broc have a lot of calcium so eat your greens!|||Congrats on trying to eat healthier. You need to get some protein though. Try VeganEssentials.com for some reasonably priced meals that you can cook yourself. You can buy tofu, beans (check the labels for lard), brown rice, tempheh, Garden Burgers, seitan. I didn't have to tell my parents because I was not living with them when I became a vegan.|||My parents were very open to the fact that I became a vegetarian. Vegetarianism is becoming so common these days for a variety of reasons, the biggest being health. You're parents might question your decision at first, especially since so many people are still stuck on the idea that you have to eat meat to be healthy, and get all your nutrients. But this is a myth. If you come to your parents with a good knowelege of vegetarianism, then they will probably be more accepting. Also, it may be hard, because your parents, who I assume cook a lot of your meals, will have to learn to cook vegetarian meals for you after only cooking meat their whole lives...so offer your help with meals. This is your decision, so don't let it rest all on their shoulders.
As far as cheap vegan products, my favorites are tofu (which possibilities are endless, b/c it takes on the taste of anything you cook it with), and beans, peas, and legumes. All of the simulated meat products can be very expensive, so stay away from these if you are looking to save money.|||I'm not vegan but when I became vegetarian I told my parents like this..... I don't eat meat any more, I'm a vegetarian.
But of course I am thirty four so it wasn't a big deal....
Mom naturaly said, "What are you on a diet for, you don't need to lose any weight?" to which I replied, "I don't want to have a heart attack like papa did, he was dead for three minutes and I thought that was it. I don't want that to be me one day." end of story, problem solved. We have not discussed it as a diet since. Now she only asks how's my health, to which I reply, "My energy skyrocketed, it's like I'm nineteen." and we both laugh.
Parents worry, but when you are in better health, they will know, they always do.|||Tofutti and MorningStar are two good brands.
I have been vegetarian for a long while now and am planning to go Vegan when I am 18 just have to be able to buy my own food.
and you haven't been vegan if you are just useing normal bread for your sandwhiches cause i believe it has milk or eggs in it.|||I just told my mom. We were in the middle of a conversation about a show we were watching and I just said it like it wasnt completely random.|||There are a lot of low cost alternatives to faux and fake meats out there. First off, tofu is very cheap, Usually around $1.50 at most super markets. Secondly, The BULK food section at the supermarket can be your best friend. There are tons of proteins like beans, nuts and cereals and flours there for you to get that usually run around 69垄 a pound better than the $4.99 for that fake meat. Trying to incorporate more WHOLE foods in your diet will be much better than just eating a lot of prepared foods.
There is a great pod cast on iTunes called Vegetarian Food for thought that covers how to deal with your parents and becoming a vegetarian. She also has a whole podcast dedicated to kids and teens.
Also, try to get the book, Becoming Vegan by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina. This book tells you all the vitamins you need to have and proteins as well as a great section all about teens being vegan and what the need to stay healthy. It was a life saver for me in the beginning. Not a lot of recipes but great reference for many years.
Lastly go to a local natural food co-op in your neighborhood. They usually have young people there that are knowledgeable on what to get to eat on a budget.
Just remember to stay informed and healthy and let your body tell you what it needs. There is no vegetarian police and just do the best you can do for that day. If you happen to eat meat one day, just try the next day to not do it.
Good luck with your journey, there is a ton of new and exciting food out there for you to try.
PS.... Peanut butter cravings are sometimes your bodys' way of telling you it need more protein. I learned that when i had Survival training.|||There is a Japanese analogy/proverb that goes like this, "The nail that sticks up is the one that gets hammered down". People are like this everywhere. When you tell your family that it is your personal belief that animals should not be eaten, they take a look at themselves and it can be subconsciously translated into, "What you do is wrong and I choose to be right." A good chunk of the population has been brainwashed into believing that veganism is an excuse to be anorexic or a way of rebelling by slowing killing oneself. Be prepared to get some strong resistance.
Your parents have probably been taught a huge amount of misinformation by their parents and their teachers while growing up. You really need to research vegetarian diets and health before you even think about saying the "V-word" in front of your parents or anyone else.
When you have gathered enough information and feel confident in a vegetarian diet's ability to maintain or even improve health, you may mention to them that you have made the decision. They may be shocked, angry, worried, curious or many other things, but you must NEVER react to their behavior and always stay calm. If they are able to speak to you and respect your choice, please tell them everything and answer all questions. If they are rude, inconsiderate, judgmental, violent, or verbally abusive, refuse to continue any conversation until they can speak to you with respect.
The best advice is to study everything that you can about a healthy vegetarian diet and keep yourself in good shape (better than most people your age or than your friends/family if possible). If nobody that you know shows a genuine, positive interest in your choice, don't give them the privilege of the knowledge that you have gathered. Work your way around any attempts they make to trivialize your beliefs and if possible, go shopping with your parents and buy things that aren't obvious veggie fare. Instead of trying to sneak fake meat into the cart, toss in lentil soup, peanut butter, pasta, fruits & veggies or anything else that you have learned is needed to fill any gaps in your diet.
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That is great that you want to become vegan. My biggest word of advice is to study a balanced vegan diet and learn how to cook/prepare everything that you will need to keep yourself satisfied BEFORE you start to label yourself as vegan. This is important in keeping yourself healthy and working towards a fit body that can redefine vegan stereotypes.
Your journey as vegetarian was just the beginning of a longer one to a plant-based diet with no animal products. This should be due to the reality of factory farming in which animals that are kept alive to produce milk, eggs, etc suffer much more and longer than animals that are raised to a certain weight and then slaughtered.http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/
http://meat.org
Some people use the word "vegan" in reference to this idea, but be aware that applying that label to yourself should always come with the inclusion of wise activism and advocacy.http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/in鈥?/a>
Two extremely important examples of this are that you should never speak to someone about vegetarianism/veganism without their consent and genuine interest or as a comment on what they are eating AND your dietary beliefs should never be used as an introduction or explanation of who you are as a person. Veg*ism should be something that comes up AFTER people get to know you and they offer you a situation that makes it confusing to withhold the information/discussion. Also, if you are presented something that you choose not to eat or you are
ordering food/eating together somewhere/picking the best place to eat.
A responsible vegan ALWAYS studies the subject of their own health and how to keep their body completely provided for in every sense. http://www.veganhealth.org/sh
To neglect their body is to define a plant-based diet as unhealthy and is the opposite of helping the animals.
When you you hold off on the subject until it's necessary and then act like it isn't a big deal at all, people are usually surprised and WAY more interested and curious than if you were to bring it up when someone's eating or just using it as a conversation starter.
A balanced plant-based diet includes grains(breads, pasta, rice,cereal), legumes(soy, beans, peas, lentils), fruit and vegetables.
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vsk/f鈥?/a>
http://www.peta.org/accidentallyVegan/
http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/ea鈥?/a>
Being vegan can be an art, one whose challenge is to take things that involve the suffering of the innocent and change them into something free of cruelty.
A vegan woman can create an ENTIRELY NEW,HEALTHY HUMAN BEING INSIDE OF HER. Many of these children stay vegan and grow up to be perfectly healthy adults. So just keep yourself educated about what you eat and don't let anyone tell you that a veg diet is lacking anything essential.
Technically the term "vegetarian" does imply that you don't consume anything that comes from the body of an animal that requires killing it. Many ingredients such as gelatin and glycerin are found in many candies, Fig-Newtons, and many of other foods as well as rennet found in many cheeses.
http://www.happycow.net/health-animal-in鈥?/a>
The best thing to remember is to take your time so that for example: when you are comfortable not eating whey and casein you can then give up sodium stearoyl lactylate and L-cysteine when you are sure you can make the commitment permanently.
Depending on your age or reliance on parents or regional options, it may not be best to give yourself a label. The important thing is to do your best to make progress and be committed to your compassion towards animals. Never put your focus onto what you or other people use to describe yourself.
If you meet someone that talks down to people for eating meat, dairy, etc or to you because they think they are "more veg" than you, laugh in their face and tell them they are a disgrace to the entire philosophy. People like this only hurt the idea of veg*ism AND the animals. The point of all of this is to live compassionately and and as free from cruelty as you can, all the while maintaining your health and a positive attitude. People who don't maintain either, need not open their mouths and represent our beliefs.
If you actually choose to read all of this, I hope it helps. If not, feel free to e-mail me if you have questions.
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I'm vegan and these are some of my favorite things to eat:
Breakfast: bananas, cream of wheat with brown sugar and soy butter, cereal, pancakes or french toast with real maple syrup, vegan "sausage" patties, smoothies.
Snack: BRUSSEL SPROUTS =) no joke
Lunch: vegan "sausage" sandwiches, sandwiches with vegan deli slices(Tofurkey is the only one that's kinda funky), fruit, dinner leftovers, couscous salad, vegan sushi, potato or pasta salad.
Dinner: sloppy joes, "sausage" and gravy with homemade biscuits, Spaghetti and Trader Joe's "meatballs" or TVP, lasagna, Thai pad see ew, pad khi mao(drunkard's noodles), pad prig king, tofu+eggplant with basil sauce, yellow thai curry with tofu or vegan chikn and veggies and jasmine rice, Indian dal with homemade roti or dosai, channa masala, aloo gobi, vegetable or minestrone soup, pizza, STEAMED "PORK" BUNS with potstickers or spring rolls, sweet&sour/orange/lemon chikn, vegan pho or wonton soup, baked tofu, BBQ homemade seitan (tastes like BBQ'd ribs), kabobs
I use these sites to find recipes:
http://www.foodnetwork.com
http://vegweb.com
http://www.recipezaar.com
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There have been vegan Olympic gold medalists and a vegan woman can create an ENTIRELY NEW,HEALTHY HUMAN BEING INSIDE OF HER. Many of these children stay vegan and grow up to be perfectly healthy adults. So just keep yourself educated about what you eat and don't let anyone tell you that a veg diet is lacking anything essential.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Lewis
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada鈥?/a>
Here are some more veg people:
http://www.mikemahler.com/index.html
http://www.vegetarianbodybuilder.com/ind鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=b鈥?/a>
http://www.andreascahling.com/andreas-ab鈥?/a>
http://www.billpearl.com/career.asp
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-23鈥?/a>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Danzig
http://www.scottjurek.com/career.php
http://www.nfl.com/players/rickywilliams鈥?/a>
http://www.brendanbrazier.com/raceresult鈥?/a>|||Being a vegan is not as complicated as you may think.
Protein is in all foods, not just meat and dairy, so don't feel that you are depriving yourself of something that you are already eating.
Also you don't need to buy vegan products, as such.
If you have a food wizz, put about ten different veggies into the machine with some herbs and spices to suit your taste.Put all these pulverized veggies in a big pot and cook for a short time. Presto, a delicious soup.
Also don't regard your vegies as a side dish, make them a meal of stir fry.
Bok Choy, onion,carrot, broccoli, corn,cabbage.A liitle bit of water, quick stir fry the vegies, and season to taste.
Fruit & Veg is very economical, along with your grains. you will get better at enhancing the meals as you vary them.
It's not hard to tell others that you are changing your eating patterns, after all it's your stomach and entestines|||I didn't have to =D
They were and I was raised a Vegetarian
And I am glad I was
could someone give me sources on this?
not opinions but website please.|||Vegan diet is only unhealthy, if you don't do it the right.
Some people HAVE to be vegan because they are allergic to animal protein including dairy (even to breast milk), seafood and honey.
If you have doubts, go to a nutritionist and work out a plan. S/he can give you a list of what food have what and a list of supplement that you can take (for like B12). Go to you doctor and tell s/he that would like to see a nutritionist to make sure you are eating right.|||Lies by the government, my friend.
they want us fat and dumb.
I'm 16, been a vegetarian since feb. (i cut out milk first in place for a cholesterol free, VERY healthy and delicious soymilk), and recently turned vegan, and i LOVE it.
just buy Yves Vegan Dogs, theres your protein, and of course you can eat beans, rice, etc for protein.
If your worried about Vitamin B-12, you can get organic supplements :)
<3
For the Animals,
~Amber~|||There are websites going both ways, depending on who is making them. I'd suggest you see a dietician if you have any concerns about your health.|||its good to be a veg. why? cause being a vegan/vegetarian wont make you fat and obese hah.
and eatting meat isnt all that healthy either. sooooo. THINK ABOUT IT.|||If you are looking for definitive answers, it's not a website you should be looking at but reading the ayurvedic literature about veganism. It's only the naive who look for "websites" for the ancient wisdom.
But I can tell you, it is unhealthy for the wannabe vegans because they haven't studied the ancient texts and learned the wisdom. Also they are not part of the spiritual path of true veganism and so they rely on modern books, or look at it as rescuing animals, etc. No wonder they have to take supplements or are weak and sickly in mind and body.
True veganism is extremely healthy for your body and soul.|||No diet is absolutely or automatically healthy if done incorrectly. The body needs nutrients period. You need to know what those are and find ways to supply them in amounts that the body requires. (excess is obviously just as bad as deprivation) A vegan diet can be unhealthy if you choose to eat foods that don't supply what your body requires. It's that simple. (of course finding the correct foods which fit the vegan philisophy MIGHT be difficult in certain areas and situations).You don't need a website to tell you that.|||Read this :
First of all let's be clear what a vegan is. it is NOT another term for a vegetarian. It is a specific subset of vegetarians who, for whatever reason, have chosen to exclude ALL animal products.
To me this is an absolute prescription for disaster. There is absolutely no basis in science to support this radical position. If a person chooses to be a vegan for moral or religious reasons that could certainly not be argued but it still will not prevent them for suffering the consequences of choosing to avoid all animal protein.
One of the most common problems are permanent neurological complications, like blindness, from a vitamin B12 deficiency. One could take supplements for this but this is not as good as consuming the real deal.
Most vegans I have seen are terribly unhealthy. There are some people who absolutely designed to be vegetarians but even carb types require animal protein. This could be something as simple as fish, eggs or dairy.
So my warning to ALL vegans is to seriously reexamine why you are destroying your body by your food choices and get back on some animal protein ASAP. Remember that nearly ALL of the reported problems with consuming animal protein or meat is because it was cooked. Virtually all of these problems can be eliminated if you consume healthy animal protein sources uncooked.
I found it on this link!
http://vitalvotes.com/QA/Is-Veganism-Hea鈥?/a>|||Well, vegan diets can be low in levels of protein, calcium, iodine, vitamin B12 and vitamin D, so it's suggested to plan the diet and take dietary supplements. But it's healthy. Just thta you have to be very careful to watch out for any product that contains animal products. Vegans avoid meat, poultry, seafood, eggs, dairy products, honey, fur, leather, wool.|||There really isn't a definitive answer.
Don't do it though.
Your digestive system will not know what to do with the bile and stuff that is used to break down meat so it will build up and you will get nasty stones.|||animal proteins are bad news. http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html
we've been raised to believe we need animal protein, but nothing could be further from the truth.
I live a pretty healthy lifestyle- I exercise regularly, don鈥檛 eat sugar, I eat whole grain foods, mostly organic fruits and vegetables. I take calcium and iron pills daily, but even though, whenever I try to donate blood they won鈥檛 accept it-they test it first, and then say that it doesn鈥檛 contain enough iron鈥?why the **** am I shaking all the time?
Is it because of me being vegan and lacking iron, or for the reason that I drink and smoke. I used to consume a lot of alcohol, especially vodka, when I was younger, almost on a daily basis. Now, I only drink it on weekends, and I drink beer and wine sometimes during the week. I don鈥檛 smoke grass real often, and I smoke everyday about 2 cigs and on weekends more.
People always remark about this, they think I do it since nervous, my friends always laugh about it. Please help! What can I do to treat it?|||If your iron is low then you need to get a supplement for it. This is your problem!|||i thk they r really jus givin u an excuse for nt allowing u to donate ur blood becus u hav drug in ur bloodstream...did tat ever occured to u? Im sure u knw tat its harmful to other ppl.|||If you want to treat your shaking, lay off the cigarettes, the grass and the drinking. That will start to cure you. You can't say that you live a healthy lifestyle when you are putting toxins like that into your body. It also sounds like you might want to get some Iron into your body. If you are low iron you are anemic. Most iron comes from animal meat, the red kind like beef. Since you are vegan you should go to the store and pick up a vitamin to help you get your iron. Ask the pharmacists there to help you find the iron that will work well for you. Take care of yourself. You only get one body!
on the one hand, veganism saves animals and reduces carbon dioxide emissions, global warming etc...but i read on wikipedia that Steven Davis, Professor of animal science at Oregon State University argues that more wild animals die of crop production than in ruminent pasture farming. Apparently if all of the crop lands in the US were used for vegan crops, it is estimated that around 1.8 billion animals would be killed annually.
What do you think of this? is it still better to be vegan? I'm seriously considering becoming one myself.
What are your opinions on veganism and eating meat/other animal products?
is there any way to stop all these animals from being killed in crop farming?|||so, Steven Davis is prof of animal science. Do you think he might be a tad biased about this ?
It needs far more land to rear animals than crops. I should know, i own a farm.
Living a vegetarian or vegan diet certainly kills less animals than eating meat.
The animals that die in arable farming are by accident, this is a totally different moral position to rearing animals specifically just to eat them.
Go ahead, have confidence in your belief and go vegan
edit: I love the answers that say "we were meant to eat meat"...ha, ha, how selective is that ?? We were meant to run for 20 miles after our prey and spear it with blades fashioned from flint as well.....didn't see you quote that as you go around the supermarket buying all that battery meat.
The male human body was "meant" to impregnate as many girls as soon as they go through pubity to ensure the genes carry on...Does that sound right to you in the 21Century ?
how bizarre the "we were meant to do this and that" arguement is. Stop hiding behind it. If you have no moral stance on rearing, abusing, torturing and killing animals, just say so, don't try to blame it on some mis-guided pre-evolution view of what we are "meant to be"
So if we were "meant to eat meat" based on some pre-evolution. Are you now saying that vegetarians and vegans are the only people to have evolved ?...Maybe, thanks for pointing that out|||I'm not sure how they came to that conclusion about 1.8 billion animals being killed for crops in the US. The amount of land currently used for raising animals in the US is astronomical already, so if there were no animals, we could just use that land! :-)
If you're serious about going vegan, I wouldn't let daft statistics like that put you off. After all, that would only apply if the whole of the US went vegan, and lets face it...it's never ever going to happen!
Read some vegan books to help you make your decision (vegan freak is good). That might help you get everything straight in your head and enable you to make a decision that you'll stick to.|||The whole food producing structure needs to be turned on its head.
The industrial revolution removed man from the production of his own food. At a time when the focus was on ndustry, we as a populous went head first into something we didn't fully understand - mass production of food.
We believed the system was working, and it was, until the population became so grand and concentrated in the cities that agriculture needed some quick answers to the food problems. GMO's and hormones, and steroids provided the quick answers to the problems we faced. Now, we are reeling becuase of the unresearched use of procedures to produce food.
We can still move forward (or backward), to an organic based agricultural system. Organically grown products would help cut back on the slaughter of small animals who chose to live in crop fields. But we also need to reconsider the methods of farming. Perhaps it is time to overhaul the tractors and tools we use in farming.
We can't just give up, we shouldn't just accept that which is being shoved down our throats. Question every act you make, and after you find answers, be happy to make that move.|||First and foremost, we were meant to eat meat. That is why we have pointy teeth, as well as flat ones. With that said, after watching "Fast Food Nation", my family has changed our habits considerably. We only buy meat and dairy products that either come from family farms, or are handled in a kosher manner.
The milk products, beef, and chicken that I buy do not contain anti-biotics or hormones. I buy only free range chicken eggs. Needless to say, we have cut back on our consumption, which is better for us, because this type of "green" living can be expensive. But, the animals that provide us with our meals are treated in a more humane manner.|||The fact that you choose not to eat meat, should not be based solely on saving animals. As you can see they will be killled no matter what. If the world decides t become vegan, then there would be no need for animals, we would graze on our own grass! Do what feels right to you! Remember it's your body, it's your mind, and only you can make that decision.|||another point is if everybody in the world was vegan there would be enough food for a long time with the world eating meat people are starving
and lots of the meat eaten in the us isnt from the us
and most animals in medcs arent in fields they are in factory farms
an ss4 is wrong animals that eat emat like a cat have ALL very sharp canines we dont we have molar to eat veg and we have a appendix like hebivores do|||There's always vegetarianism... don't forget that!|||vegan ALL the way animals are my life and i refuse to eat them!|||Seeing as this Steven Davis is a Professor of Animal science and therefore has a vested interest in livestock farming I'd say he was more than a little biased!|||If you have the time to educate yourself about the foods absolutely necessary for you to maintain good health as a Vegan go ahead
If the entire planet became vegans - we would have to cull the overpopulation of animals as they would damage and eat the crops when left to bread. Also there would have to be an animal clean up service to clear away the dead or diseased animals that would have multiplied on the planet.
With global warming there soon will not be enough water to grow the crops.
Vegetables hurt too! Research David Attenborough's secret life of plants (not only they talk to each other, they do try to protect themselves against destruction by producing poisons) A plant will scream if you cut off a stem, it will also purr if you play pleasing music.
But hey we all have to eat - even the birds eat the insects and the slugs and snails just love the juicy green veg.|||26 billion animals die each year for meat,dairy and eggs.Does that answer your question?
edit:Don't forget the animals killed in crop production for all of the grain-fed animals.And all of the animals killed for leather,suede,etc(40 million annually). And all of the animals killed in animal testing(20 million annually).|||veganism is about causing as little harm to animals as possible. its impossible to be 100% vegan, even tarmac and tyres contain animal products. im not going to start hovering everywhere!
i hate when people use that arguement against vegans... because its still a hell of a lot less animals than killed by an omnivorous diet and seems to imply that non-vegans dont eat grains or soy which unless youre a lion or something you do!|||My advice is this: do whatever you want, that's your right.........but after you make your choice DO NOT TRY TO CONVERT THE REST OF US TO YOUR LIFESTYLE!
You wanna be a vegan? Great! Fantastic! Go for it! Just dont EVER tell me to stop eating meat.
Im a meat eater and I would NEVER tell you not to be a vegetarian or vegan.....
Make the choice for yourself and only yourself.|||One person that chooses not to eat meat isn't going to effect the lives of animals. We have so many meat eaters in the US its really pointless. I mean the reason why you should become a vegan is for the health benefits. Not saving animals. Butchering animals or eating carrots. Either way animals are going to be killed. Choose it for health.|||Veganism should be adopted only for health reasons. We have canines and incisors for a reason.
What would be the best multi vitamin for me to take?
and how much iron and b12 should i be taking daily?
how much protien?|||I don't take vitamins, but I do eat 2 servings of fortified breakfast cereal everyday. With each serving I add one 8 oz. serving of soy milk. (That's just part of my day's food BTW) It's a great way to start your day especially with some fruit. It also makes a good filling bedtime snack.
That takes care of my calcium, vitamin D, iron, B6, B12, folic acid, and a bunch of other things I can't remember. You can check though next time you are in the cereal isle. You have ot be careful though because some cereal contains milk.
I don't take any supplements at all and I am perfectly healthy. Generally vegans don't need to take supplements. A good, varied diet will allow you to be healthy without taking pills.
Good luck and take care.|||To figure out how much protein you need, multiply your weight in pounds by 0.36. The result is a good estimate of mow many grams you need, but it has a margin of error built in (so you can get by with less.) Unless you're pregnant, lactating or bodybuilding you don't need any more than that.
I take Deva brand multi. It's got some iron and some B12 and I don't take more of either. It's not a great idea to take supplemental iron unless you have symptoms of iron deficiency or your doctor has diagnosed you as iron deficient; too much can be highly toxic.
Your main focus should be on getting your nutrients from food. "Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina is a great resource. I take a multi because my diet is good, but it sure isn't perfect every day.|||I have my own views on it - but really think it best to go to someone that can test and see what it is that you actually need - or if you need to take any sort of suppliments.
That means that you should make an appointment with a doctor and get tested.
Spending un-needed monies on vitamins that you very well don't even need is more expensive in the long run that just going to the doctor and getting tested.
Saturday, March 3, 2012
i been vegan for 3 months please tell this isnt true i want to have kids.|||yes due to the larger amount of soy you eat in replacement of other sources of protien.|||As long as you are ensuring that you get all the supplements you need. I was vegan for about a year and I wasn't careful about getting enough protein and iron and I became anemic. So just be careful.|||No not at all:all you need for healthy sperm is in a vegan diet too
No worries
Planets|||[edit] Nutritional concerns
Various fruits, vegetables, nuts, and grains; some basic ingredients of a vegan diet.
[edit] Specific nutrients
The American Dietetic Association has said that "appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."[10] However, poorly planned vegan diets can be deficient in nutrients such as vitamin B12,[69] vitamin D,[70] calcium,[71][70] iodine[72] and omega-3 fatty acids.[73] These deficiencies have potentially serious consequences, including anemia,[74] rickets[75] and cretinism[76] in children, and osteomalacia[75] and hypothyroidism[76] in adults.
[edit] Vitamin B12
Deficiencies in Vitamin B12, a bacterial product that cannot be reliably found in plant foods,[77][78][74] can have serious health consequences, including anemia and neurodegenerative disease.[79] Although clinical B12 deficiency is rare in vegans,[74] if a person has not eaten more than the daily needed amount of B12 over a long period before becoming a vegan then they may not have built up any significant store of the vitamin.[80] In a 2002 laboratory study, more of the strict vegan participants' B12 and iron levels were compromised than those of lacto- or lacto-ovo-vegetarian participants.[81]
The Vegan Society and Vegan Outreach, and others, recommend that vegans either consistently eat foods fortified with B12 or take a B12 supplement.[82][83][84] Tempeh, seaweed, spirulina, organic produce, soil on unwashed vegetables, and intestinal bacteria have not been shown to be reliable sources of B12 for the dietary needs of vegans.[85][86][74]
[edit] Calcium and vitamin D
It is recommended that vegans eat three servings per day of a high calcium food, such as fortified soy milk, and take a calcium supplement as necessary.[70][10] The EPIC-Oxford study showed that vegans have an increased risk of bone fractures over both meat eaters and vegetarians, likely due to lower dietary calcium intake, but that vegans consuming more than the UK's estimated average requirements for calcium of 525 mg/day had risk of bone fractures similar to other groups.[71][87]
The authors of The China Study argue that osteoporosis is linked to the consumption of animal protein because animal protein, unlike plant protein, increases the acidity of blood and tissues which is then neutralized by calcium pulled from the bones.[88] The authors add tha|||I really doubt it. Vegans have better sex lives too, eating meat can lead to erectile dysfunction.
Read Christine's response
(the last one)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=At64fPxP6Pbuk3ffRAIspJp26xR.;_ylv=3?qid=20081001131840AAGVOPm|||Maybe not.
Christine isn't a vegetarian or a vegan. "She" is a troll.
But considering the questioner was suggesting resorting to cannibalism and eating vegetarians....|||no
|||No because you are saying that vegetarians live forever. While we do typical live longer but not forever. Tell them about the health problems of being an omnivore and some of the famous people who are vegetarians or vegans|||No, and neither is preaching.|||My friend is vegetarian, and she would never win people over if she made a huge deal about it. Instead, she orders whatever she wants, and lets everyone try it- we've all started eating vegetarian food here and there as a result. It's not total conversion, but it's about the best you can hope for.|||You have been taken in by one of the vegetarian section trolls. Every now and then, a person(usually a meat eater) comes along and creates an account in order to make vegetarians and vegans look bad. Christine is not a vegetarian, but rather a troll that is trying to make all vegetarians and vegans look bad. She is not the first(I can personally remember at least 4), and she will certainly not be the last.|||No, because EVERYONE is going to die at some point. And so are animals, for that matter... might as well not have the animal's life be in vein and have some tasty food while we're at it :).|||No.
People all have different beliefs.
If someone thinks eating meat is important, no one should tell them they're wrong.
If someone thinks eating meat is wrong, no one should tell them they're wrong, either.
Although, it is pretty stupid to say that you will die if you don't eat meat, because the world is full of healthy, thriving vegs.|||No. Generally, you can't win someone over to vegetarianism or veganism unless they're interested and approach you with questions. Berating someone's life choices is not a good way to get them to accept yours. |||nope, or else people wouldn't smoke cigs, drink alcohol, or eat fast food either.|||Christine just makes her kind look stupid... I really wonder if her goal is to make vegans look bad. If it is it's working|||Christine is an annoying probably fake person anyway. So just ignore her. I didn't read her comment but I have read most of them and can imagine what she says. I don't know if she is really vegan and answering neurotically or not vegan and purposely going out of her way to sound like an idiot so that people generalize that vegans/vegetarians are like her.
However, meat is more harmful than a vegetarian/vegan diet and poses more health risks. Such as heart disease and strokes.
So when people ask questions about vegetarianism/vegan-ism and why we choose to be one we bring them up because it is a fact after all. Whether someone chooses to be a vegetarian/vegan or not it's still a fact and they asked the question to get us to say that. So we're not trying to win people over we are just defending ourselves by stating that we eat healthy for whatever reason (animals, health, environment) and it is our choice and those are our reasons.|||here's the thing
i'm a raw vegan(well, trying to be one full time, but finding it hard yet rewarding when i do do it) and i love animals which is why i started. but i've stuck with it because it's healthier and i feel better. but i don't think preaching is a good way to get people to convert. if you're having dinner and people start asking questions, then by all means answer them as best as you can, but don't tell people stuff they aren't interested in hearing. it'll just piss them off and possibly lose you a friend.
ex.
me and my friend had dinner the other week. i took her to this vegan restaurant cause she told me to pick the place since the last time she picked. so we were eating and she was enjoying the food and then she asked me why i was a vegan besides the delicious food. i told her all the reasons. i told her that i wanted to live a really long time and that i wanted to feel better and all these amazing things.
had she not asked me, i wouldn't have told her anything. if they don't care, it's not my job to tell them stuff.
Have just read that the British Government wants people to eat less meat and dairy to help the environment. Has any other Government got round to this? They usually copy the U.S. Government.|||-Half of the water used in the U.S. is used for animal agriculture.
-Every year in the US an area the size of Connecticut is lost to topsoil erosion--85% of this erosion is associated with livestock production.
-Livestock already consume half the world's grain, and their numbers are still growing almost exponentially.
-Every kilogram of beef we consume, according to research by the agronomists David Pimental and Robert Goodland, requires around 100,000 litres of water.
-Approximately 1.3 billion cattle populate the earth at any one time. They exist artificially in these vast numbers to satisfy the excessive human demand for the meat and by-products they provide. Their combined weight exceeds that of the entire human population. By sheer numbers, their consequent appetite for the world's resources, have made them a primary cause for the destruction of the environment.
-In the US, feedlot cattle yield one pound of meat for every 16 pounds of feed. It takes an average of 2,500 gallons of water to produce a single pound of meat. According to Newsweek, "The water that goes into a 1,000 pound steer could float a destroyer." In contrast, it takes only 25 gallons of water to produce one pound of wheat. Feeding the average meat-eating American requires 3-1/4 acres of land per year.
-Feeding a person who eats no food derived from animals requires only 1/6 acre per year.. - Studies by North Carolina State University estimate that half of the some 2,500 open hog manure cesspools (euphemistically termed "lagoons"), now needed as part of hog productions there, are leaking contaminants such as nitrate--a chemical linked to blue-baby syndrome--into the ground water.
-Worldwide demand for fish, along with advances in fishing methods--sonar, driftnets, floating refrigerated fish packing factories--is bringing ocean species, one after another, to the brink of extinction. In the Nov., '95 edition of Scientific American, Carl Safina writes, "For the past two decades, the fishing industry has had increasingly to face the result of extracting [fish] faster than fish populations [can] reproduce." Research reveals that the intended cure--aquaculture (fish farming)--actually hastens the trend toward fish extinction, while disrupting delicate coastal ecosystems at the same time.
-A scientist, reporting in the industry publication Confinement, calculated in 1976 that the planet's entire petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years if the whole world were to take on the diet and technological methods of farming used in the US.
-If tomorrow people in the US made a radical change away from their meat-centered diets, an area of land the size of all of Texas and most of Oklahoma could be returned to forest.
-It is estimated that livestock production accounts for twice the amount of pollution in the US as that produced by industrial sources.
-Livestock in the US produce 130 times the excrement of the entire US population. Since farm animals today spend much or all of their lives in factory sheds or feedlots, their waste no longer serves to fertilize pastures a little at a time. One poultry researcher, according to United Poultry Concerns literature, explains: "A one-million-hen complex will produce 125 tons of wet manure a day." To responsibly store, disperse, or degrade this amount of animal waste is simply not possible. Much of the waste inevitably is flushed into rivers and streams.
-Methane is one of the four greenhouse gasses that contributes to the environmental trend known as global warming. The 1.3 billion cattle in the world produce one fifth of all the methane emitted into the atmosphere.
-.Agricultural engineers have compared the energy costs of producing poultry, pork and other meats with the energy costs of producing a number of plant foods. It was found that even the least efficient plant food was nearly 10 times as efficient in returning food energy as the most energy efficient animal food.
-Since so much fossil fuel is needed to produce it, beef could be considered a petroleum product. With factory housing, irrigation, trucking, and refrigeration, as well as petrochemical fertilizer production requiring vast amounts of energy, approximately one gallon of gasoline goes into every pound of grain-fed beef.
-The direct and hidden costs of soil erosion and runoff in the US, mostly attributable to cattle and feed crop production, is estimated at $44 billion a year.
- Each pound of feedlot beef can be equated with 35 pounds of eroded topsoil.
-A nationwide switch to a pure vegetarian diet would allow us to cut our oil imports by 60%.
-Compared to a vegan diet, three days of a typical American diet requires as much water as you use for showering all year (assuming you shower every day).An acre of land can produce 20,000 pounds of potatoes, but only 165 pounds of beef.
-In the U.S., 260 million acres of forest have been destroyed for use as agricultural land to support our meat diet (over 1 acre per person).
-Since 1967, the rate of deforestation has been one acre every five seconds.
-Trees are being cut down at an alarming rate in the US, as well as around the world, for meat production. For every one acre cleared for urban development, seven acres are cleared to graze animals or grow feed for them.|||Shut up and hand me that steak!!!
But seriously have been reading about that. To do with methane and cows etc etc....ozone layer....perhaps there's something in it after all....not a bad idea!|||Yeah, veganism does help the animals, environment, and your health. Not a bad deal, huh?
I'm not sure if the US has gone around to the "veganism theory" yet, but they are preaching the same old same old (the kind that nobody ever follows anyways) - Use less electricity, ride your bike to places instead of using your car, etc. etc.
If those actually worked, they wouldn't be preaching them anymore.
have you ever met a vegan that didnt mention they were a vegan? they always let you know how long theyve been a vegan, they cant have a conversation without sharing vegan recipies, and they cant go through the day without criticizing someone elses diet. its so annoying|||It's a false sense of pride. People limit themselves, in hopes of becoming a better person. It's like catholics and lent. But one day, when the vegan comes home from the dr. with a poor bone density rating all will be put in their place.|||I cannot believe this is the best answer! I'd like to know your source for this poor bone density you are claiming. And food poisoning?? .......wow.....ok Report Abuse
|||Hmmmm.. Why do non vegans that know vegans always complain about them?? Its like batman VS. the riddler. They are arch nemisis'
PS.. Can you be vegan if you eat vegis that were fertilized with cow or horse crap?|||Haha, melissa's answer cracked me up.
Secondly, although I am ashamed to admit it, my mom is one of those vegans, bless her. At the movie theatre today she made a big deal out of being vegan with her popcorn selection. At Subway today she loudly announced her veganism. It's like, dang mom, I love ya, but NO ONE CARES! I can see if she was asking a question about something and someone ASKED why she was asking, but they usually don't! Drives me up a wall.
But hey. I don't know why she does it. She doesn't try to get anyone else to be vegan. My guess is she wants people to question their own eating habits. But she also tends to be the kind of person who just likes to talk ... a lot. I just stand there shaking my head.
I'm vegan too though, just to clarify.|||Maybe the people you're referring to are really proud of themselves because it can be hard to change your diet and give up a lot of things you're used to eating and clearly not everyone has the willpower to stop eating a crappy diet and stop living in denial about how terrible animal products are for you.|||Hmmm... I'm one of those vegans, and I don't bring it up. I will answer if someone asks why I pass on the meat at a potluck or something, but I don't make a point of it. I didn't do it to please anyone else, or gain a spotlight. People who do -- are you expecting everyone to just shout "You're right!" and throw their bologna on the floor???
I think it depends on "why" someone is vegan in the first place. I did it for my health -- not because of animal rights or anything like that. Being vegetarian has economical and ethical advantages, which are just bonuses in my book.|||I am vegan and I try to promote veganism as much as possible. It is a better choice for our environment. It reduces global warming.Vegans consume 20 times less energy for their food than carnivors. Secondly it is a healthier choice. Animal based diet has no fiber and it does nothing than plug up your artheries and cause several diseases. Most importantly is is a kinder choice to our animal friends that we share our planet. Billions of animals suffer to become our food every year. I am not trying to impose my opinion onto others. I am just providing the facts. People are being bombarded with meat and dairy ads 24 hours a day. In fact Vegans are de-programming you from all the evil of these companies. It is an obligation of a person to report or stop cruelty. Plant based food is much kinder choice in all aspects of life.
Feel free to reach me.
firstsimba@aol.com|||No one knew I was vegan till I found out I had a vegan coworker, then I shared it and it got out thru word of mouth. What's wrong with sharing though?
I'm going to make your statement generic now to show you how ridiculous it is:
"Have you ever met someone who enjoyed something that didn't mention they enjoyed something? They always let you know how long they've enjoyed it, they can't have a conversation without sharing things about it that they enjoy, and they can't go through the day without criticizing something someone else enjoys. It's so annoying."
So that pretty much summed up most our society. Why you bring this to us, you think we give a **** what some guy said to you? Someone who we don't know?
By your standards I should go to the butcher shop tomorrow and rant about crazy meat eaters who always come to the vegetarian and vegan section whining to me about random people we have nothing to do with. Cause guess what? It happens weekly and you're nothing special. So get over it :)|||I believe that the people you are referring to are a select few. They probably feel insecure about themselves because, let's be honest, being vegan is not exactly the "popular" thing to do. Many people don't understand veganism and put vegans down for their lifestyle. Being a vegan, I know I go through this a lot. It's easy to feel insecure when you are not part of the norm. Some vegans will try to go out of their way to prove to others that veganism is great & wonderful, and sometimes go a little overboard and preachy. I choose to keep it to myself, personally. I am a vegan simply to make myself happy - that's it. I know I'm doing the right thing for my body and for the earth. I'm not going to try to convince others that I'm right & they're wrong! That's not going to accomplish much. I think my weight loss, much improved health, and plentiful energy will speak for itself.|||Because its something to be proud of, a lot a vegans choose to be vegan for ethical reasons as well as health reasons I expect you brag about things you are proud of too. Also depending on the social situation they are in it's important to let people know as a lot of places don't always cater for vegans.|||I reckon it's a common side effect of becoming a vegan, the self righteous holier than thou preachy superiority complex.
If people choose to become vegan that's great well done those who choose this life path,, just don't force it onto others...... of course there are many wise vegans who also choose to keep it to themselves these are the type of people who truly deserve respect.|||people i know who are vegan dont brag about it. they tell you there vegan because theres some food simply cant have like milk,eggs ect|||One of the reasons I come on to YA is so I can discuss veganism without someone twisting their face and rolling their eyes, but I guess I can't even get away with it here.
I bet there are people who stalk the vegans on here who haven't even met a vegan face to face, but they still think they know everything about us.
Stop generalising people's personalities just because they happen to make the same choice about what they eat.
Also, being a vegan is a massive part of someones life. Everywhere you go you're faced with choices from your food, drink and clothes down to what cleaning product you buy, so it's little wonder that it's on people's minds alot, especially since almost all public places involve one of the above.
It's also only something you can do if you're very passionate about it, so it can be quite vexing to see your best friend stuffing KFC down their throats.|||I agree 100%, veg.gal. (:
Well, I guess you haven't met me. I'm vegan (I'm only saying this for purposes of answering this question though, haha), and I have friends who didn't know for months. I don't talk about it, but if someone else brings it up, I answer their questions and I will tell them the "horror stories" about factory farming if they ask.
Being vegan is for me. It's a personal thing. There's one other vegan in the entire school that I ever really get into discussions about it with. Otherwise it's just the typical conversation when they find out.
"You don't eat meat?"
"No."
"Not even fish?"
"Nope."
"Do you eat cake?"
"Vegan cake."
etc...|||When you go vegan you give up alot of things you might like.. You have to consider everything that goes into your body even down to Vitamins... I imagine and Correct me if I wrong I like constructive criticism Its like an achievement like losing 50 pounds because you gave up Sweets. Or I haven't had a Cigarette in over a year.. People naturally want to be proud of their achievements..|||You are stereotyping. I'm not saying this to be mean, but unless you've met every vegan in the world you shouldn't
make such a broad sweeping generalization. Imagine
how you would feel if I started off a question with," Why do
meat eaters......
yes. for a 10000 reasons.|||No. All the vegetables will be gone in the world, there will be an overabundance of cows suddenly, and everything will reek of tofu.|||Maybe. It would certainly reduce global warming. The cows and chickens would not take over because they would not be bred to excess as they are now.
But I cannot say it would ease world hunger because that is an issue of distribution, not supply.|||No.
I find it arrogant to assume we can save the planet when we can't even clear out traffic after a Bears game.|||It is a wonderful hope. But do I think it will NO.
Slaint茅(to your health)|||A lot of things can "help" save the planet (assuming it needs saving, another debate) but will veganism (or anything else) solely be responsible for it? No.|||Do I believe veg*n can save the planet? Certainly!
The breeding and slaughter of animals, and the subsequent processing and packaging of the meat, requires an inordinate amount of land, water, energy and raw materials.
The creation of animal products as a whole uses 20% of the countries annual energy budget. That is equal to the energy needed to run all our cars!
Every calorie of animal protein eaten requires 78 calories of fuel to produce. Wheat and corn requires 3.5 calories.
Soybeans requires a whopping 40 times less than beef!
When we consume a product that requires many stages of processing (Fuel, oil, plastic wrap, aluminum foil, styrofoam, cardbord containers, paper labels, ink, preservatives, artificial flavours, color additives etc), energy expenditure must FAR exceed that for simple products that can be used in their natural state!
There are thousands of reasons to go veg*n, this is just one, and a major one at that!|||Sure can. Or at least not destroy it as the farming industry is doing right not. Seeing as the farming industry is the most polluting one in the world, before cars, the more vegans there are, the less pollution there will be.
Breding animals for their flesh uses up masses or water, crops,... 10 more so than just eating the crops directly.
Go vegan!|||Respecting all life will help save the planet.
Respecting people of all colors will help save the planet.
Respecting people of all faiths will help save the planet..........
Accepting the fact that every conscious being, human or non-human, can suffer and has the same basic desires that we have will save the planet.|||I am a vegetarian for environmental reasons. Simply put cows produce lots of methane and contribute to global warning and feading an animal to then eat the animal is not as efficient as eating the food yourself. sustainability is a real issue and it is only going to become more pronounced, people who live in isolation know that if they eat meat every day they will soon run out of livestock. The global model is not as simple as that but the effective model is that it takes over 10 acres of land ranching to produce the same amount of food as 1 acre of land farming. viable farmland is a limited quantity.
to "you could learn a lot form me" - that is why other countries have problems with deforestation in attempts to create more farm land.. Resources may not be at there limit right now everywhere, but that doesnt change the fact that we could use less of them. you can go around saying that global warming is from cars when you are refusing to give up meat and you can go around saying that global warming is from cattle when you are too lazy to walk to the store, and you can go around saying that these things are to complicated and that any actions that i can do are just a drop in a very big bucket, or you can take a stand, conserve what you can, spread the word when you can, and vote for candidates who will police industry and at the end of the day be able to say that you did what you could to drip your drop into that bucket.|||It can help a great deal. Other efforts should be made to reduce, reuse and recycle...
I like to take my trash to the dump and see everything that is being tossed out. Piles and piles of stuff that was purchased and there it all is. It keeps my money spending and product consumption in perspective.|||vegs save 100 animals a year :D|||While I enjoy the thought this question provokes I must say that is unanswerable. Sure we can debate it but there is no way to state facts here. If the research that most veg*ns and myself have done is correct than yes it could. However, that would be assuming that everyone got on board and that will never happen. If everyone stopped driving cars than that would help even more but that will never happen. It is a matter of numbers. Exponents and variables. Where it ends is any ones guess. With the amount of misinformation that we are subjected to there is no way to really know anything for certain. That is why this question is unanswerable. It doesn't need an answer. It doesn't have an answer. Some people may see this as a surrender or just unwillingness to fight but that is not the case. It can be seen in every person from day to day. We have all seen the bumper sticker that reads "stop bitching and start a revolution." Well the people they are referring to aren't going to start a revolution cause they are to busy existing. They have jobs and pets and children to worry about. Most of us can't drop everything and march on Washington. That is why the system will always win until the system fails. If anarchy breaks out then who will keep the peace? It won't be the police cause they will be home protecting their families. When the grocery stores stop getting deliveries then what? Our close relatives experienced this in the great depression. The point I am trying to make is that simply questioning something will not change it. We need to realize that our destiny is collective and everyone plays a part. There is no escaping that. Do not write off people for their beliefs, rather incorperate them into your own because they will play a role in our future.
In summation, I am not sure that anything can save the planet, or destroy it for that matter. The rock will always be here regardless of what WE do. So maybe the question should be "can veganism save the human race?" The earth can survie the cancer that is humans. We cannot.|||einstein said it could...and i dont know about you but im going with him.|||I very much doubt it.
If you are refering to methane emissions from livestock and the effect on global warming, methane contributes less than carbon dioxide, which is what we all exhale.
By cutting down on the population, we can save the planet, and the middle east have been working on that for a few thousand years without much luck.
What damage has been done in the past is what we are seeing. We won't be around to see the damage we have done, and eating only vegetables and fruit won't do anyone any favours.|||No|||simply NO...
38 million tons of meat are required yearly and the orders are required worldwide...
V&V is a very small following of cult and religious devotees|||NEW ID ALERT!
From what? I don't think what we eat has any more than a marginal effect.|||No....your question is silly and naive - grow up.
I think veganism is a choice of living without the use of animals. I laugh when I hear people say it is a cult! LOL.My whole family is vegan and we are the only ones in our town. I guess we could be our own cult. We chose first to be vegetarians, and then we cut out dairy and all of our sinus/cold problems went away (no more inflammation/mucus producing antigens from dairy). Next was eggs and that was because I didn't want to spend alot of money on something as $5 for a dozen organic eggs. So we just stopped using the eggs, and suddenly we were vegan! We can survive without the use of animals. Makes me feel more independent in a way.
I also would like to educate people about vegans and protein. There is enough protein in vegetables (beans, rice, peanuts, wheat, and other supergrains and superfoods that the average person has not heard of before - amaranth, quinoa, hempseed). But even vegans can eat horribly! I've seen vegans that eat french fries, pop, pizza with no cheese, and just eat toast. Where are the vegetables??? You can eat grains like rice and beans but you still need vegetables, especially the green leafy kind. As a vegan I guess you need to be aware of what you are eating and be smart about it.|||dont really know what that is|||I think it is the person's choice, I think if they have chilren they need to make sure their children either eat meat or get enough protein from other sources. Most vegans don't think about that part. As long as they are healthy and their children don't suffer nutritonally, then hey they can do what they want.|||Most people don't understand nutrition at all. Going vegan is not dangerous as long as you replace the meat with nutritious alternatives. Just eating pb&j sandwiches is not going to do it.
There is a lot of protein in vegetables - how else would you classify them?
Do research on it. Most Americans are especially ignorant about the food they eat.|||I think it's crazy! we are all carnivores by nature. I couldn't imagine not eating a thick, juicy rare steak. I love meat.|||If God meant for us to be vegan, we'd have hooves and three stomachs. If we were meant to be carivores we would have long sharp claws and teeth. That's why we are omnivores.|||I think it's great, as long as you eat right so you get lots of protein and vitamins and minerals. I'm a vegan, and I love it! :]|||Veggies may have protein in them, but a tiny amount when compared to meat. There's 3 g in broccoli, and 26 in chicken. That's a huge difference and you'd have to eat a ton of broccoli to get enough protein. Anyway, that's not what we're here to talk about. If people want to be vegans, all the power to them.
I think that veganism is great in theory, but not really in practice. We were made to be omnivors, so we should have a varied diet including meat, plenty of fruits and veggies and everything.|||I think it is up to the person whether or not he or she wants to become a vegan. However, they would have to work extra hard to get all their vitamins and such.|||I think it is a person's choice, and I wouldn't disrespect a vegan.
But I think it adds a lot of difficulties to a person's life. It is hard to eat as a vegan in public or at work or at friend's houses or at holiday events or whatever. I think it would be boring to limit that much food from your life too. I think you'd have difficulty fulling experiencing other cultures. And I don't think the health/environmental benefits are worth it, although they are probably worth it to be vegetarian. I understand why people are vegetarians, and nowadays that is pretty easy to do. But being vegan- no I don't get it.|||I think it's noble, but very challenging to be vegan in a healthy way.
A surprisingly good source of pretty easy vegan recipe ideas is the book Super Baby Food.|||I think its extreme and it must certainly take time and committment to follow. Its a personal choice and if that is someones choice then thats fine by me. I will stick to my omniverous roots :D|||It's a cult. Not to worry though, they will all soon starve to death.|||Lol :) I haven't starved to death yet! I'm at my ideal weight and I have been for years, nothing changed at all when I went vegan! ^^
I think it's one of the best choices I ever made. I'm only sorry I didn't do it sooner. I was a vegetarian over 6 years before I went vegan, and during all that time I should have been vegan!
It's wonderful, I feel complete freedom. I can look at a cow and finally feel absolutly no guilt whatsoever. There is nothing about my lifestyle that will ever harm that cow. I don't wear leather, don't consumer meat or anything that has any sort of dairy or dairy derivatives. It's wonderful :) And I feel great!|||I have utmost respect for vegans. I'm a vegetarian and I don't eat dairy either but I do eat eggs, only for the fact I have a candida problem and can't tolerate any processed food, so going completely vegan when have a candida problem seems impossible for me at the moment. Veganism is a wondeful lifestyle to have, albeit it can be tough sometimes as some people can be cruel, but it's for the right reasons. I wish some people were more open mind to different viewpoints and beliefs on here.|||As long as you go about it the right way, there isn't a problem. But if you become sick and weak from not getting the nutrients you need to survive, it probably isn't the way you should go. If you believe that strongly in something but can't really participate, do some research before you shop. Only buy organic foods (cheese, milk, etc.) and stick with your cause.|||Isn't it interesting how the only people who have anything negative to say about a vegan diet are those who aren't vegan themselves. It is not all that difficult to be vegan, it's a very healthy choice, it isn't difficult to get proper nutrition, and it's a very ethical choice. But no, it's not for everybody due to various factors.
Personally I feel better than I ever have, I do not find it difficult, I love the new world of food that has opened up for me, and I love knowing I cause less suffering to animals than when I was l/o, and even omni many years before that.
"Omnivore" doesn't mean that we have to eat meat, just that we can. But even that is doubtful considering the vast amount of disease that consumption of meat causes.
What are common products made/processed with animal parts that the avergae person may not realize? For example, I've heard that animal fat is used in the manufacture of computer chips. Is that true? Anything else like that?|||There are probably lots of other obscure / widely unknown uses of animal products but these are the ones I currently know of:
- Wine, cider and beer are often cleared or fined with gelatin, isinglass, shellfish chitin, albumen or casein. Most spirits are okay.
- Washing powder often contains animal fat.
- Photographic film is made with gelatin.
- Toothpaste often has glycerine in it.
- Glues can use bones, hooves and skins.
- Lots of toiletries, perfumes and cosmetics contain or are made with animal products, including beeswax, lanolin, shellac, musk, tallow, gelatin (or "hydrolyzed collagen"), keratin, castoreum and chitin. Many are also tested on animals.
- Household paint often contains shellac.
- Bone char is used in the production of some sugars.
- Crude oil is refined with bones to make Vaseline.
- Fertilizers often contain bone and other animal products.
- Dissolvable surgical thread is produced using chitin (which may or may not be shell-sourced).
- Match heads and sandpaper use gelatin as a binder.
- Glossy papers are often produced using gelatin or casein.
- Plastics are often produced using casein.
- Steel is rolled / shaped using tallow as a lubricant.
- Vitamin D3 is often produced from lanolin.
I have not heard of the use of animal fat in computer chip manufacture in particular but I think it is very likely.|||Gelatin! That crap is in EVERYTHING! Most yogurts, marshmallows, some ice creams, and lots of candies. Who'd have thought boiled skin & bones would have so many uses. YUK!!!!|||Carmine is one of them. Most people don't know that it's crushed up bugs.
I got a bottle of grapefruit juice once for free, then looked at the ingredients and it listed carmine. Eww. I was definitely not going to drink something that I knew had crushed up bugs added to it.|||lecithin is a pretty common substance that many foods have to bind separate ingredients, and is made from eggs. however, soy lecithin is ok, that was just one i learned recently, but there are many extended lists available|||Sour mix you get in a margarita in just about any bar has egg whites in it...
here are a few other lists
http://www.vnv.org.au/AnimalProducts.htm
http://www.vnv.org.au/FoodAdditives.htm|||Science has invented the "neuro chip" to help people with diseases. But I do not know of computer chips made with animal fat.
There are SO many things that people don't realized.
Such as a lot of grocerystore type black teas are colored with pig's blood. Lipton says they don't use blood in their "natural coloring" but refuses to state what their "natural flavoring" consists of.
Tetley is fine.
Cetyl alcohol is in many personal care products. Cetyl alcohol is derived from whales and dolphins. People who refuse to buy tuna because tuna fishing kills dolphins, or go to Marine World because it exploits whales don't read the bottle of skin cream and make the same connection.
Women don't realize the pill is refined horse urine. The ever popular "melatonin" tablet comes from the cow pituitary.
I could really be here all day.|||Gelatin is a common ingredient in many types of foods. Also bottled salad dressings (even ones just labeled plain "Italian") and sauces sometimes contain anchovies. Worcestershire sauce and Caesar salad dressing are two examples of dressings with anchovies. Canned soups are often made with beef or chicken stock.|||I always thought this was interesting, regular Oreos contain gelatin but Doubl Stuf Oreos do not.
I've been a Vegan for a while and a Vegetarian for even longer. It's the one thing in my life that I know will never change and I want a tattoo supporting the lifestyle and reminding me every day why I do what I do. Does anybody have any ideas? I don't want just the word "Vegan" or anything that's Peta-inspired. I just want something that supports veganism/vegetarianism and makes a good tattoo. Any ideas appreciated!|||I'm not saying take these exactly, but I've always liked this first one: http://modblog.bmezine.com/2007/04/27/ve鈥?/a>
If that's a little much for you, you could always get something like this: http://modblog.bmezine.com/2006/06/06/hu鈥?/a>
Of course, the best thing you can do is figure out exactly what it is you want on your body forever. Remeber: it's very easy to change your mind, it's not so easy to change a tattoo once it's on your body.
Good luck!|||how about asking a tattoo artist to create something with your favorite animal and the letter V, or some type of small quote or phrase that represents your beliefs and lifestyle. what i think would look really cool is having the letter V and an animal stepping through it, if that makes any sense, like behind the first slant but in front of the second one. ask a tattoo artist for ideas too, they are creative and do what they do for a reason.|||supports veganism/vegetarianism & makes a good tattoo.
select fruits, plants and veggies that would spell out your
favourite animal:P- papaya; A-apple; N-necterine; D-dates;
A-apricot=PANDA.
U could make it: bracelet, anklet or a stick form...here, U stay true to your belief and yet show UR support of animal rights in your own right...2bz|||good question :) I'm also a vegetarian and animal rights believer . I have a passion for animals , I was originally going to get a tattoo of a wolf's paw print, but i ended up using my own dog's paw print, it turned out really good . I only wanted something small, so it was perfect for me.|||since your into animal rights, maybe you could get a small tattoo of your favorite animal (unless your favorite animal is a rhinoceros, because they aren't very pretty animals...) or maybe something like, "we are all God's beautiful creations" (unless your an atheist)|||First of all make sure that the tattooo is something that you really want because it will be with you for ever. Next choose a design or a symbol or even a saying that means something to you and that you really like. Find a really good tattoo artist in your area and go in and spend some time talking to him or her and let them know what you want and I am sure between the two of you, you will come up with exactly what you want.. I just got my first tatto 7 months ago and I love it. That is the advice I got from a friend and I used it and the tattoo turned out beautiful and I have no regrets on getting it. Good luck.
I've been a vegetarian for four years, and I am currently trying to make the jump to Veganism, but I'm having a really hard time eliminating eggs and cheese, especially the eggs, because they seem to be in everything. I'd really like some advice|||Well, I am somewhat in the same boat. I am trying to seriously limit my dairy and egg consumption. I will tell you what steps I am currently taking to do so.
I go grocery shopping alone. When I am with my spouse, I feel rushed, and like I can't stand there and read every label. But when I'm alone, that's exactly what I do. It was hard the first two weeks, but it's getting easier, because I now know what certain basics are "safe". And only have to label check specialty or impulse foods.
When we go out to eat, I look up the restaurant menu online before hand, and look for meals. Again, this was harder at first, but is now easier, since I know have "favorite meals" (aka foods I know that are safe) at my regular haunts. If the place doesn't have a website, and when I'm reading the menu, I just can't tell what has animal in it, I just get a salad.
Finally, always have snacks! This is where I fail the most. I'm fine at home, because I stocked my shelves with plenty of choices. But if I forget to pack a lunch for work, and am hungry during the day - there is ALWAYS free food in the lunchroom. People are constantly bringing in baked goods, or conference leftovers, or chocolates that they don't want to eat themselves. I have several times slide, and picked at lunchroom food, when I don't have time to take a lunch break, and forgot my own food.
I'm willing to bet that the first 3 weeks will be the hardest - since that's how it was when I quit meat. Only due to the fact that I have to figure out what I am now going to eat instead of what I had been eating. I am sure that as time passes it will be easier and easier until it feels like it's always been the way we've lived. Once you get a whole list of food in your head that you can readily fall back on.
Good luck to us both. I'm sure we'll get there with continued effort.
also, how does veganism positively affect..
-the body
-your pocket
-animals/animal production
-the environment
the opposing negative perspectives towards the following above are welcomed also
thxx so much :)|||Im answering in the same order you posted the questions.
-Im assuming you dont want the anti-meat argument, since you asked for vegan and not vegetarian- Milk, not only inferior right off the bat to my favorite vegan "milk" (hemp milk), has been linked to numerous ailments. If you want the details, I recommend "Skinny *****", but in short, its linked to cancer, acne, blah blah blah. Not to mention, it doesnt really have any benefits. It has less calcium than hemp milk, and the high protein content of milk actually strips your bones of calcium (!!!This means that the more you get your calcium from dairy, the more damage youre actually doing!!!) I never liked eggs, so I never looked up any anti-egg arguments, sorry.
-You buy less processed foods, and use more fresh ingredients (this also relates to the health thing, but I decided to be a "Debby Downer" and list negatives of non-veganism, rather than positives, since its pretty self explanatory-no known bad stuff, unless you want to believe protein only comes from animals). Fresh foods cost less than nasty processed foods, so your wallet and body will be happy. I actually try to buy all organic, so the price difference sometimes comes out more expensive, but you dont have to buy organic (though you might want to look into some foods that should always be bought organic).
-Contrary to popular naive belief, cows do not "need to be milked to stay alive". They are artificially impregnated, then the baby cow is taken away to be veal, and the cow is milked until the process is restarted. In the wild, cows stop producing milk when the baby stops drinking; they do not get infected or any other dairy industy "we're all about the cows!" propagandra. Chickens are subjected to fake daylight/shading in order for them to produce unnatural amounts of eggs, and beaks are routinely chopped off so that when the stress gets too much, they dont attack workers.
-Being a vegan does more environmental impact than anything else; you could drive a hummer, live by yourself in a huge mansion with the lights turned on all the time, have a private jet, anything you want. Why? Because in order to produce one pound of meat, you need ten pounds of grain. So, if there was someone who ate only meat (and Im sure theres not very many, but for the sake of understanding), you use ten times less food.|||-veganism positively affects your body because you're not pumping genetically manufactured/chemically engineered crap into it. you'll have more energy, your moods will improve, the overall well being of your body will increase.
-if you stick to fruits and vegetables, veganism is relatively light on your pocket. but be it as it may, things like vegan cheese and more "dairy" like products and meat substitutes can get costly. which is, of course, to be assumed because anything that's even remotely good for you will cost you.
-well, you're not eating animals or any by-products so it has to be a good thing. as far as animal production goes, i don't believe that animals will ever stop being butchered for our own sick sake but any little bit helps.
-less trash out there if you're eating vegetables and fruits--the peels are biodegradable so if you have a garden, use it as compost! if you have a vegetable garden, you can provide for yourself, which is always a good thing. going to farmers markets and supporting local farmers encourages a stable economic "grassroot" environment. i've also found that meat makes me really gassy so less meat equals less methane emissions that supposedly deplete the ozone!|||The body:
No cholesterol in plants. A vegan diet is thought to be of particular benefit to those with a history of cancer and heart disease in the family.
Your pocket:
You don't need to buy meat, which is expensive. You will likely also consume less dairy substitutes compares to the amount of dairy non-vegans would.
Animals:
No animal slaughter, cruelty or exploitation.
Environment:
Animal farming contributes 1/5 of the world's carbon emissions. Over-fishing is damaging to marine environments and endangered species.
Is it a quasi-religious cult, an art-movement, a way of being different, or a mental illness?|||At one time, I naively thought that it was simply a dietary preference. After coming to yahoo answers, though, I have discovered that it is so much more, at least for most of it's practitioners.
Veganism appears to be a strange state of self-delusion where, with the help of PETA propaganda and Disney cartoons, animals are cute, innocent creatures, with near human-like emotional and mental capacity, and where vegans manage to fool themselves into thinking that they are somehow saving the lives of livestock (I believe the popular term is "sentient being"), and that, contrary to what anthropologists have proven, humans actually evolved to be herbivores.
It is also a state of denial and hypocrisy, where it is ok to destroy animal habitat, to pollute and run them over with your car, and then smugly claim that you don't hurt, kill, or "exploit" animals. When these double standards are mentioned, they modify their position to claiming that they only avoid animal usage to the extent that is "practical".
Veganism is also a state of self-righteousness, with vegans being morally and intellectually superior (and are the only humans that have earned the right to be called animal lovers), whereas the rest of us are ignorant, barbaric, animal-hating savages.
Veganism does have some similarities to a "quasi-religious cult". Members of the cult like to nag and harass (they call it "educate") non-members, in the hopes of getting them to join. Most of them take it a step too far, though, and resort to name calling and insulting non-vegetarians to the point that one begins to wonder if they really want to convert them, or just continue to criticize them to reinforce their own feelings of superiority.|||Vegan-ism is very similar to Vegetarianism in the sense that you either choose to be, or are brought up that way. It is similar to a religion in the sense that if you've been one since a very tyoun age then you are likely to stay that way for the rest of your life.
I personally am vegetarian becase I was brought up that way, and when my parents changed back to eating meat when I was 4 I refused (just how I was brought up).
It has nothing to do with mental illnesses.
Some people are allergic to toxins in meats (very rare), and some people want a healthier diet.
Some religions I am aware also ban the eating of some meats, so veganism could be an easier option than just avoiding one particular meat.
It almost definately has nothing to do with income, as (as far as I am aware), vegan substites are actually more expensive.
Hope this helped.|||None of the above. It's actually a way of seeking harmony. People who don't like the idea of treating animals badly don't contribute to the ill-treatment of animals. Everyone has a different idea of what that means. For most vegans, it roughly translates to "animals aren't property and should not be used/treated as such."
I'd imagine it is somewhat like the abolitionists in America. They thought that slavery was wrong because they thought that people weren't property and shouldn't be used/treated as such. I wouldn't describe them as a religion/cult, an art movement, "just trying to be different," or mentally ill. I have no idea what their social status was, but I'd imagine that folks from all walks of life were that way.
I don't think veganism can actually be considered a cult, for a number of reasons. Here's a "cult checklist" for you to look at. Cults are typically organized and have a leader. Vegans are not organized and do not have a leader. Cults usually try to isolate their members from non-members (even family members), but vegans usually don't refuse to associate with non-vegans, especially not family members. http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/chec鈥?/a>
As for religious, religion almost always includes a belief in the supernatural. Vegans vary widely on that front. Some believe in a deity (or multiple deities), others are unsure, and some are convinced there is absolutely no chance that there's a deity. The moral code in religions usually comes from the supernatural. You do something bad, you'll be punished (go to hell, be reincarnated again, whatever). As with vegans, there's no belief that anything horrible will happen to you if you're not vegan. You'll just be... not vegan. Religion also usually has a sense of sacred and profane that veganism lacks. Here, have a look at this link. http://atheism.about.com/od/religiondefi鈥?/a>
An art movement also doesn't fit in. Not all vegans are artists, nor do they all even agree on what vegans should do. There are, on one hand, the peaceful vegans. On the other are the ones who engage in criminal activity in the name of veganism. (ALF, anyone?) Some vegans are very private, others want to share veganism with others. Still others are the in-your-face types. I suppose you could argue that veganism is a movement of some kind, but it isn't really an artistic one. I think veganism might be considered a political movement, though.
As for a way of being different, there are certainly some vegans and vegetarians who do it just to be different (or to fit in), but I've found that most of them are young and don't stick to it. Most vegans (like most everyone else who spends a long time doing something) actually believe in it and try to live it. To suggest that the majority of vegans are just seeking attention or trying to be different makes about as much sense as suggesting that those who practice abstinence, or who don't drink/smoke/do drugs are just trying to be different.
As for a mental illness, I have no idea where you get that one. Here's a list of mental illnesses. Veganism is not one of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_illn鈥?/a>|||Aside from 2 points (gack) veganism is caused by the disparity between humane awareness of what is right and wrong, and the general public's apathy about the plight of any other living being on earth, other than themselves. Vegans respect and cherish all life. Most meat-eaters are quite vocal that they really only care about their own lives, and those of the people they know and/or love. Vegans generally don't use terms like "deserve to die".
But hey...2 points is 2 points.|||For the love of animals
They want to be healthy
Environmental reasons
Health issues (allergic reactions to dairy - etc.)
Religious beliefs
To answer your question - NO, NO, NO & NO - get your facts straight! Being a vegan is about being healthy - no different than you wanting to eat healthy & start working out. :)
Don't knock it til you try it!|||It can be related to many things, a texture dislike, a religious reasoning, a dislike to animal cruelty or diet preference. What ever the reason is their choice.|||Veganism is a persons choice, Some people are Vegan because of religion but most are by choice Veganism consists of eating no animal products, It's in no way a mental illness?|||what causes it? Everything you lack, compassion, decency, intelligence
FAILTROLL!!!!|||This is what causes it --->>>http://www.mercyforanimals.org/ohdairy/|||It's called "I actually care about animals and laugh at those who ask questions like this because it's obvious you have no respect for living things other than yourself."|||It's a way to see idiot questions here on this site...|||LOVE, COMPASSION, KINDNESS & PEACE
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peta.org|||Veganism is a harmless medical condition caused by a microscopic species of fungus that grows on the roof of your mouth and feeds on stray particles from undigested fruit and vegetables.|||just your basic attention seekers who feel the need to tell me my bloody steak isn't delicious, but, we both know that it really is.|||I believe it's an eating disorder, along the lines of anorexia nervosa or bulimia.
What is it like?????|||Hi, an answer from a vegan woman who went through two pregnancies and had two very healthy baby boys. I ate what I usually eat as a vegan. If you already eat well, you should have no problems while you are pregnant. I made sure to get plenty of leafy greens which are great for calcium. I drank my soymilk and ate vegan cheese. I really enjoyed a yummy tempheh and curry tofu breakfast dish I used to get at a local veggie restaurant. Drink plenty of water and take you pre-natal vitamins. Anyone telling you that you can't be vegan and pregnant don't know what they are talking about. I had very little morning sickness. I didn't have any problems with swelling or preclempsia or any health problems. I was in my mid-30s when I got pregnant, so I was considered high risk because of my age but I had no problems. My boys are healthy, energetic, smart and vegan. Good luck. The PCRM website has information of veganism and pregnancy.|||The exact same way it is not pregnant.
p.s. The American Dietetic Association and the Dietitians of Canada support a vegan diet for ALL stages of life.|||Unless you are extremely knowledgeable, it can be risky. The demands of a pregnant women's body during preganancy can be not only complex but individual. It is extremely risky. And as for the "American Dietetic Associat and the Canadian crew ... they can sod off. They make the assumption that everyone has competent knowledge of nutritional needs.
That assumption demonstrates that while they are competent in their field .. they know next to nothing about human nature.|||My wife was a vegan when given birth to 2 kids. They are 4 y/o and 8 y/o now. No problem or issue so far.
Basic and planned vegan diet could increase body efficacy to synthesize relevant and adequate nutrition and minerals. Our body indeed has greatest potentials.
Requirement for B12 supplements only for uncommon cases when someone has partial or total lost in natural body metabolism. Obviously for those eating “unnatural” diet the body may eventually lose the natural capacity to synthesis and uptake of proper level of nutrition/minerals. This is eventually will lead to other critical and modern illnesses which you can witness now.
And... EXCESS of B12 may cause body TOXICITY and danger. Beware!|||Not recommendable.|||I want the whole world to be vegan. But for nine months prego mothers need to take care of the unborn child. NO veganism. It's dangerous. Vegans who tell you otherwise are really wannabes and don't have all the knowledge of true vegans to allow them to be vegans during pregnancy.
I don't understand the logic. I've been vegetarian all my life but veganism just doesn't make sense to me.
How can consumption of dairy products or eggs that aren't even fertilized (and are hence not even alive) be perceived as cruelty to animals? I don't mean to offend anybody, and I apologize if my question enraged you, I just want your opinion on this and want to know why is it that vegans decide to live on such a restricted diet.|||Regarding dairy: first and foremost, we do not need dairy. No mammal, humans included, need to consume the milk of other animals, no does any mammal need to consume any mother's milk after the infant breast feeding stage. In fact, consuming milk, especially that of another animal, is not a healthy thing to do simply because we are not designed for such a thing. If that is not enough for you, remember that cows are mammals, and like all other mammals, humans included, they do not produce milk unless they are with baby. So, how do you get milk from a cow all year around? Either always keep her pregnant and with baby (and steal the milk from the baby for your own use) or inject hormones to fool the cow's body into believing that it is with baby. Also, where did all these cows come from? They have been bred in captive. That is, cows are either rapped or artificially inseminated. Baby girl cows are kept for their milk, the baby male bulls are thrown into the grinder and made into cat food (that's what they do at the local dairy farm near my home) or put in a cage and not fed any iron or mother's milk to keep their meat white and soft and then they are killed, chopped up and labelled "veal" (aka baby meat).
Eggs? Eggs are produced the exact same way milk is produced, only the product is different. Male chics are thrown into the grinder, females are injected or fed pellet food with hormones and also artificially inseminated to produce more chics. Chickens are like most all other animals, they give birth in the springtime, not all year around. Giving constant birth to eggs all year long puts a terrible amount of stress on the body and basically sucks their energy dry thus they live short lives before being sent off to become fried chicken. Doesn't matter if they are organic free range or not, the process is the same. Keeping them in a cage or allowing them to run around the back yard makes no difference in my eyes.
Anyway, there are so many videos out there that show the daily abuse these animals receive -- and why not? Who cares what happens to them anyway, because they are all going to be killed soon, so who cares how they are treated before their death? Right? Who cares if they have been in a cage their whole lives, who cares that their babies have been taken away and killed too. They are just stupid unfeeling animals -- they can't even talk, so they must be so very stupid, and they don't feel pain anyway, right?
Anyway, that's my take on it. And being vegan is not restricted in my view either. Sure, okay, meat, dairy, eggs, sea food... four things. I was never big on eggs, and never liked seafood.... so that narrows it down to two things that I removed from my diet -- animals and animal products. Two things. It's nothing.|||It doesn't have to make sense to you. You made your choice to be vegetarian, and that doesn't make sense to the general population, but you chose it anyway. Vegans have their reasons for making their choices, and omnivores have theirs. I am allergic to eggs, and therefor basically forced to go vegan, but it is neither a restricted or boring diet. There are many fabulous vegan foods. No offense to you either, but you are being as closed minded to veganism, as most people are to vegetarianism. Its just a choice, and not one that needs to concern you, if you are not embracing that particular type of diet. Some people are just put off by consuming animal products, the same as you are put off by consuming meat.|||Take it from me - a girl with little self control over what she eats ;), I do not feel restricted at all. I can eat everything you eat, just from different sources. I am currently trying out raw veganism, I take that you would think that is the extreme of all extremes, last night I enjoyed raw zucchini "Noodles" in raw homemade marinara sauce. It's really amazing.
People say to me "how can you have so much self discipline?" it's not about self-discipline, it's something I care about enough to make changes, ones which I did not have the slightest trouble making.
The reason it is cruel in the production of dairy products and eggs is because it is mass production, cows AREN'T supposed to be milked, the are artificailly raped to become pregnant and then their babies are stolen from them after birth they mourn for days and they are kept tied to a machine which "Milks" them. They are then slaughtered after they are "used up". Which is about 7 years, when cows should really live for up to 30 years. chickens are confined to small cages and have their beaks clipped watch some of the vids' on youtube, it's awful.|||Why are you vegetarian?
Is it because you are morally opposed to the use/ abuse of animals to provide food for human consumption?
Are you unhappy with the cruel treatment of the majority of animals bred for food?
Do you object to the fact that natural life cycles are tampered with to allow animals to bear huge ammounts of offspring for people to eat?
Is it because you are opposed to the huge resource use needed to use animals to turn vegetable matter into meat for humans to eat?
Is it because you don't like eating heavily processed food from giant faceless corporations?
Is it for health reasons?
If you consider taking any of these positions to a logical conclusion (or in your view 'extreme; conclusions), you'll probably find that the reasons for being vegan are just extensions of your reasons for being vegetarian.
Or maybe you don't have reasons and are just vegetarian because that's how you were brought up?|||Most vegans choose the lifestyle based on moral and ethical ideals. Although taking eggs from a chicken does not harm the fowl the conditions they are subject to is wholly cruel and unnatural. Same goes with cows, bees, and such. Even so called free range and organic meats have a very broad definition in which they must follow to earn the distinction. Vegans however take it one step further and also shun all animal by products in everyday items such as shampoo, cosmetics, clothing items, and so on. You'd be surprised of all the animal by products lurking in your food!!|||Extreme? It's easy and it feels so good.
I was a vegetarian, but I didn't want to take part in the breeding of millions of animals to be confined, cruelly handled and brutally slaughtered.
Not eating dead animals is good for you, but who else is it helping? You are still saying you are okay with chick culling, veal farming, and everything else associated with the meat industry. You are still handing them your money to continue these practices.
So I went vegan.
It's not restrictive at all, I eat huge meals all the time and I love to cook so I'm always trying new things.|||you can still be vegan and eat eggs. it depends though where you get the eggs. my husband is a very VERY strict vegan and so are our friends. they raise chickens (without the rooster) and naturally produce eggs. since he can see how they are raised and knows that they are not being abused or that the eggs are not fertilized he will eat them. our friends though do not like the taste of eggs anymore so don't eat them.
others wont eat eggs because they simply don't know where the product came from, it grosses them out or they are not using their heads. (just a joke)
i HAVE to eat eggs because i have a b12 deficiency (b12 only found in meat and vitamins) but i am still a veggie.
DAIRY is a whole different demon. but with the same aspects. dairy cows are generally treated like crap in the industry (plus their is puss in industry milk). but if you know someone who has a dairy cow and they treat it respectfully go for it.
hope that helps some.|||www.chooseveg.com
This website explains the horrors that the chickens in the egg industry go through, and the cows in the dairy industry. This is why vegans dont want anything to do with such a horrible industry. Its how the animals are kept. And yes, they do suffer from our consumption. Cows are artificially impregnated over and over, so they will continue to produce milk. The calves are immediately taken away from their mothers when born. They are killed for the rummen in their stomach (ingredient in most commercial cheese), killed instantly, or they are shipped to the veal farm. So when you buy dairy, you are supporting the veal industry. Chickens are kept in horrible conditions as well, often living in battery cages so small they cant turn around. The floors are slanted so the eggs roll into the catcher, so they permanently live on a filthy wire, slanted floor. When the cows and chickens production slows, they are sent to the slaughterhouse. Often their bodies are too worn out by the time they get there that they can only be made into dog food, chicken soup, or hamburgers. Free range is just as bad. So if you are against animal cruelty, but not against taking their products (eggs) you should get your own chickens. But the way I look at it, the eggs are menstrual fluids of a chicken, and the milk is lactation from a cow. Is that natural for you to eat? I think not.|||Its not the"cruelty" to unfertilized eggs, its just the living conditions. Many people go vegan because the egg laying and milk giving animals aren't usually treated very well, unless you buy free range and organic. Some people also do it for the health benefits, just like vegetarianism. And veganism isn't a RESTRICTED diet, its just cutting out animal products and introducing yourself to a whole new world of delicious non animal foods.|||God has given us everything..
Everything here is for us..
You have to respect people's food..
Yeah sometimes veganism is extreme (with some people)
A non-vegan who eats everything will not make noise about the food he eats.. He will eat what he likes without boasting..
However, I have noticed the vegans will go on giving long lectures about the how non-veg food is.. they don't shut up and let anyone eat whatever they want to..
A person has to respect other decisions..
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ha ha ha..|||Dairy supports the veal industry, which is one of the cruelest practices in the meat industry. Not to mention, there are numerous antibiotics and growth hormones in dairy. Yes, some companies are trying to change this, but it does not change the condition the dairy cow lives in. Nor does it change the fact that we are the only creatures on the planet that consume another animals milk past weaning.
Eggs- I eat them. they are not fertilized. However, I only buy cage free. I buy knowing what happens to male chicks. However, I am making the transition to use mostly, if not all, eggs from my family's small backyard flock who are free to roam, live, roost, eat naturally, etc.|||It depends who is the person who makes the dairy products, and eggs. If your a person that have few hens free with no cage in the yard that's okay (if your not planing on killing them), but if you have hens in cages that's not okay. Think about it.... would you like living your life in a cage? Of course not! The same thing goes with the cows. I believe if cows are roaming freely in a really large field , and they are not going to be eaten there is no problem. But if you keep cows packed in stalls where they have no room to move that is abuse!
I think veganism isn't extreme because usually who becomes one really wants to. Everyone tells me being a vegetarian is extreme, and it is not.
ps L responded greatly!|||I'm a vegan not because of the conditions or feelings of animals. Dairy is nothing but fat and is not good for your body. We have been brainwashed into thinking that dairy is good for us because companies make billions a year on their dairy products. You don't know what you are eating when you eat dairy or meat. You could be consuming bacteria and diseases that are coming from the animals that produced it. I suggest reading a book called Skinny Bitc h by Rory Freedman and Kim Barnouin|||Veganism is not extreme. It is the 'proper' vegetarianism. Vegetarianism doesn't stop animal cruelty, it's just a halfway house.
Consuming dairy directly supports the veal industry, and eating eggs supports the chicken meat industry. All the animals that produce food for you will be killed for meat and may have had a miserable life until then.|||vegan isn't all about animal welfare. Dairy is one of the worst things you can ever consume, probably worse than meat. The dairy industry does have a huge amount of cruelty involved too. A restricted diet? I eat a more variety and broad variety of foods than i ever did when i was a meat eater. I am not missing out on anything because i have so many amazing things i can eat.|||I'm neither vegetarian nor vegan but I drastically changed my eating habits about a year or two ago. I feel much better in many ways.
I guess that anything that is healthy for a person and makes them feel better is not "too extreme."
Veganism is not for me but if others threive on it, more power to them.
Red meat, junk food and beer are the worst - and that's what I gave up! :)|||It sounds like you are concerned about cruelty to animals, and that's partly why you don't eat meat. I think that's admirable.
The next step is for you to think about how dairy cows and layer hens are treated while they're alive. If you take the time to learn about this, you will understand why people choose to be vegan.|||A lot of the reason why people go vegan is because of the horrible conditions that animals are kept in, not just because they are killed
Edit: I noticed someone down there say no ice cream for vegans.. actually, you can get plently of dairy free products including ice cream, milk, cheese and even chocolate! :D|||quite simply the reasoning is that cheese is made from animal products and hence the restriction same logic with eggs they are a product of a live animal and the process in egg farms could be viewed as animal cruelty. It is a personal choice.|||Im a vegie, and have been for about 5 months now, But vegans dont eat cheese eggs milk etc because it has been made by like animals sort of thiing, Milk from cows made into butter and cheese, Eggs chickens layed. And some animals kept in cruel conditions.|||my sister is a vegetarian and her girlfriend is a vegan. they fight about it all the time! Processed foods are the biggest no no to them.
I love to walk by them eating chips and bring home burgers from my favorite burger joint. pisses them off. then they gang up on me.
it's funny as he!!.|||yup i think so too....even i've been vegetarian all my life and i don't see the logic in veganism. Maybe its a fad, maybe its insane, i dont know. Bot too extreme it certainly is.Atleast I think so.|||i can't be a vegan either.
it seems too drastic to me too.
so i'm stcking to vegetarianism.
i'm sure vegans have their arguments for their choice and i respect their choice.|||The extreme would rather be some vegans not eating mushrooms, since that doesn't really belong to the plant category.|||It's about how they are treated while they are alive. Laying hens get their beaks cut off, and other things happen that cause them a lot of pain.|||Too extremely ethical? or too extremely healthy?|||i use to have a vegan roommate, she was a little too hardcore about it and tried to push it on everyone.|||if you dont want to continue then quit it as it doesnt have any sense.|||not really. Go to youtube and type in "Egg and milk industry)|||Hello Kireina,
1. looks like u r caught in fades like everyone else in this world.
2. First of all many diets have come and gone, what stays with u is what u like and what ur taste buds are made for and ur stomach loves to care.
3. Ego is a HUGE things. It wants to engulf everything around. So whatever i do i would consider it the only right thing in this world and start thinking why others are not doing it and start doing things so that other do it the same way. This is how religions and sects are born and they change life for many.
4. Tell them milk contains bacteria, it is non-veg and u will get a bounce. Tell them that by poultry and animal husbandry much animal life and genes are preserved and it is not against nature and u will find people asking u what is ur share.
5.So at the end of it what u feel is correct, any thing that is pursued forcefully is innately incorrect and extreme.
6. Eat what u like and tell ur mind and soul to enjoy it because this is what God GAVE u today.
all the best.. happy gastronomics|||I agree,
I think veganism is a bit too extreme...
I'm a veggie [and ive been told countless times to stop being so]
and I do think that'd be too extreme,
what can you eat...
I mean, no icecream..
XD
Basically im expecting my first baby and i'm a vegan. I've heard alot about vegan mothers 'forcing' (encouraging) their veganism on their children, but i really don't want to do this.
I haven't always been a vegan, my parents aren't vegans, so i don't see how it is my right to 'force' my opinions and beliefs onto a baby who can't make an informed decision.
Although as my baby gets older she might decide that she wants to eat meat and use animal products (which as i said is her choice), BUT as the primary carer (for want of a better word) i will have to prepare meals and provide for her. I believe that i should be a parent foremost and my own needs will come secondary to that.
Is this going against what i believe in?|||You are doing the right thing and I applaud your balanced views and open mindedness, you are thinking as a mother not a vegan.
Whether we like it or not babies need certain nutrients when they are young in order to grow healthy, these nutrients, proteins and amino acids come from a wide range of food and should not be restricted. As much as people will claim substitutes will be ok, the human body may disagree especially at such a tender age.
When older our diets can be more varied. So when the child reaches an age old enough to make an informed and independent decisions then let them choose their dietary lifestyle and support whatever they choose.
You will be a good mother, I can see this already.|||not thats being a great mom
i feel like this
Your a vegan so most of your meals are going to be vegan
but after you nurse, you introduce MILK
thats your first break from veganism
its very good for the baby and still vegetarian
one day a week give the baby chicken nuggets, or a hot dog
this way she or he can tolerate it.
the other days is vegan diet.
Allow the child regular cookies, and things like that during playdates.
these are easy things without 100 percent going against it all
I am super proud of you for not Forcing it on your child
But i have a very good feeling your child will in the end decide that vegan is best for them aswell, but if not
you have established a very important thing within your little family, Acceptance , tolerance , and most importantly
Unconditional LOVE
Best of luck to you
Meg|||I dont think thats forcing your believes...when you were a baby and a kid you parents werre not vegetarians right and they gave you meat
| think is very normal to teach kids about who you are..and if they choose something different then is great to respect them
But I am a vegetartian my baby is almost 4 and he loves it...he knows we are different he feels good about it, he doesnt crave mc donalds for example he plays at theplay ground and hasnt ever asked me for a hamburger
i cant think of me being vegetarian and preparing meat to my baby..i would say teach him what you are
he or she choose you as his mom....he knew you before he or she came here...he or she saw his life your life and choose you..this is a fact is not a coinsidence who our parents get to be we pick them
so definetly i will share my beliefs with the baby and then ;et him decide when he get older
but like i said mine is 4 and he is like in a party...mom that has ham right and we dont eat that ...and he feels proud he is like mommy...oh and he is 100% healthy and too big for his age (just in case for the people who say they dont develop ok if you dont give them meat)|||no not at all, you are giving your child a choice and if you are a healthy vegan then there is no harm in your child havind a wide variety of foods, i wouldnt knoiw where to start with a vegetarian dish let alone vegan. just make sure she gets all the nutriets she needs.|||I don't think so. I think you are making the right choice by respecting your kid wishes and right to choose, when the child is old enough than you can explain to the child, your views on it, and let the child decide if he?she wants to be a vegan or not. You are making a very wise decision, good luck.|||no not by any means. It means you are being responsible and giving your child all the choices . Just be sure to provide information for both sides..your beliefs and then also the information about eating meat.
Don't worry! your going to do fine..and awesome that you will allow your child to make their own choices!!|||no its not! you know what's best for your baby, and I am so happy to see that you aren't trying to force that. :) Too many parents ignore that.
I am glad to see that you are giving her a choice.|||Absolutely not! You said it best, you can't force your beliefs on someone else. Your child will thank you for it down the road. I wish everyone had your way of thinking!|||Going vegan at an early age is the worst thought possible. A balanced diet is still the best for growing children...trust me, I know. You can stick with organic food if you like, though. If you have trouble with preparing meat, then you can...ask your husband, or a friend to cook meals for you...You have to think about the fact that as a good parent, you should let your children choose too.|||No, you are doing what's right. It's good that you don't want to force that on her. I agree with you 100%.|||That is absolutely not going against what you believe in.... You can offer her the choice... and explain to her, when she is old enough, why you are a vegan..... however, since you are a vegan and will be feeding her as you would feed yourself, she may just become used to being a vegan...you may not even have to ask yourself this question.....if you feed her as a vegan, this is all she will know until she is older....when she is older, she will want to make the choice for herself, and that is okey.....don't beat yourself up over it... :)|||Children need protein(chicken, fish) to grow into healthy stable adults. She should have a balanced meal. Adults can tolerate this, but children can't. They are constantly growing throughout the years. Good for you on letting her make her own choice.|||I would be most concerned with making sure your baby is getting the proper nutrients from the best sources. Pretty much the best possible food for your baby is an animal product (breast milk).
I know people choose veganism for a number of different reasons. If you believe strongly in not eating animal products, then I don't see a problem with instilling that value in your child. Part of being a parent is making choices for them until they are mature enough to make the choices for themselves.
But, if you do go vegan, I would definitely make sure you have a reputable, unbiased source for how to properly give your child the nutrition that it needs.|||No Children are people first and need meat to get strong and healthy while growing up.|||The healthiest, tallest, strongest child I have ever seen was not only raised vegan, but raw.
As a parent, you have a responsibility to raise your child in the best way that you know. When the child has reached "the age of reason" and can make informed choices, it should be allowed to make its own choices and mistakes.
If you know what you are doing, raising a child as a vegan is the healthiest, safest path.|||Nope, it's not going against it. It was your decision to make in the first place, let her make the decision whether she does or doesn't want meat products.
Just give her the options when she can start making her own decisions. There are plenty of baby foods out there that combine meat in them and plenty that don't. Always offer up two ideas about b'fast/lunch/dinner for her and let her choose.
Your parents fed you and you made a decision, same thing will work for her.
I'm beginning to go vegan, I'm currently vegetarian... only for the past few months though. I'm 15 and I have little experience with veganism. I obviously know I can't eat meats or any animal products such as eggs and milk. What else can/can't I have? I know there are some tricky things like substances in certain candies that I can't have or something? I need some specific guidelines and I am having trouble finding good ones! Someone help!|||I'd recommend that you read this article.
http://www.veganoutreach.org/howvegan
Here is the definition of veganism from the source that is closest to its origins.
http://www.vegansociety.com/newsroom/ind鈥?/a>
Bread, pasta, cereal, rice, beans, peas, lentils, nuts, seeds, fruits and veggies can easily offer everything that you need except B12.
http://www.veganhealth.org/sh
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo
All vegetarians should take a B12 supplement regularly since most people eat meat, dairy AND fortified cereals yet still have a B12 status that is lower than recommended.
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/b12
It may help you if you see proof that vegetarians have the same potential as anyone else.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sto鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.macdanzig.net/bio.php
http://www.scottjurek.com/career.php
If you need meat or dairy during any stage of your life or to live any certain lifestyle, why does the American Dietetic Association say otherwise?
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada鈥?/a>|||Jelly is made of Gelatin which is ground cow bones, that is also used in many makeups, outside pills to make them go down easier, any jelly based lolly... |||You can't eat:
Cheese
Milk
Eggs
Butter
Gelatin (marshmellows and jelly like candies, jello, pudding, sour patch kids, gummi worms etc.)
I'm pretty sure you can eat margirine though. But make sure you look out for certain oils too. Some can be made from animals.|||you cant eat any dairy products, eggs, or gelatin. good luck! :)|||veganism isn't meant to be. our teeth and jaw are designed to eat meat and veg tables and I believe your doing harm to your body by following your path.
The guildlines are simple you can't eat any animal byproduct.
that's all meat
dairy products.
nearly all sweets. (mars bars snickers,haribo,chewing gum)
nearly all sweets use some sort of animal product.
rather then telling what you can't eat The list is shorter by telling you what you can eat.
well fruit and veg. but not apples most apples are covered in a special wax which comes from bees. same with kiwi and most melons.
drinks. diet coke no normal coke yes. pepsi no.
orange juice your fine.
erm some cakes use butter which comes from animals. so most cakes are off limites.
I can't really think of much else just check packaging for anything with the word Gum in.
|||i really don't know
i'm only a vegetarian
but i know a good website
goveg.com
well i think it is ? hha
hope it's helpful|||By being a vegan, you strictly limit most of the foods out there. You won't be able to eat anything involving animals directly or otherwise such as:
Honey
Candybars (chocolate contains milk after all)
Jello
Cookies
Cake
Pie
White Bread
Crackers
Anything involving white sugar
So basically that limits you to this: if you can't grow it, don't eat it.
Veganism is not a very healthy lifestyle as such one of a vegetarian. People have been known to die from it, and you can google it if you think I'm lying. Believe me, you're not doing the cow any favors by not drinking milk (they have to be milked daily to keep alive after all, so why not put the result into good use), but it's your choice.|||I can't tell what country you're asking this from, but if you're in the US, what the first poster referred to as 'jelly' is what we call jello or flavored gelatin. The jelly/jam you put on bread is usually vegan, its thickened with fruit pectin:)
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display鈥?/a>
http://www.veganwolf.com/animal_ingredie鈥?/a>
THose are lists of common animal derived ingredients, the second one is a bit better because it tells some about what type of food you're likely to find the ingredients in and is longer.
It takes a lot of work to figure out exactly what types of food are completely vegan and what has those weird animal ingredients added in. Frequently stuff that looks vegan turns out not to be:( It is really up to you though how strict you want to be, but if you want zero animal products those lists are a good place to start, or try googling 'non vegan ingredients' or soemthing like that. Hope that helps a bit
ETA_ a common thing in candy is 'carmine' dye, or cochineal. Its a red food coloring that is made from beetles. Also lots of ingredients in soaps and shampoos, etc are not vegan. What you will or won't use is really a personal decision, some people consider vegan just related to diet, some won't use animal products in anything. Read up and see what you want to do I guess:)|||Gelatin is covered above, look out if you take multi-vitamins most vitamin D is sourced from animal hide. Oh, no honey of course.
You'll have to become proficient at reading labels.
note: you can eat sugar. Its plant source after all. Vegans and Fruitarians (yup, they exist) have died of malnutrition its true but its because they didn't know what they were doing and didn't seek help before starting nor after they were getting vitally sick. Veganism will not kill you.|||The word "vegetarian" is a generic blanket term used to describe anybody who does not eat meat, poultry, fish, or seafood. This encompasses vegans and also the various vegetarian sub-groups. Vegetarians are generally those people who have chosen a diet with far less restrictions than those chosen by a vegan.
The differences between the various vegetarian sub-groups may appear to be small, but they are very important to the members who belong to each groups. In many cases the distinctions are important dietary or ethical decisions taken by the individual.
Here are the various vegetarian sub-groups:
SEMI-VEGETARIAN
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Semi-vegetarians are people who have chosen to live a lifestyle which is not strictly vegetarian. A semi-vegetarian may be a person who only eats meat occasionally, or perhaps doesn鈥檛 eat meat, but eats poultry and fish.
1) Ovo-Lacto-Vegetarian
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Ovo-lacto vegetarians are vegetarians who do not eat meat, poultry, fish, and seafood, but do eat eggs and milk. This is by far the largest group of vegetarians.
2) Ovo-Vegetarian
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Ovo-vegetarians are people who would be classed as vegans if they did not eat eggs.
3) Lacto-Vegetarian
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Lacto-vegetarians are people who would be classed as vegans if they did not consume milk.
VEGAN
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This is by far the strictest vegetarian sub-group or category.
A vegan is a person who has chosen not to consume any animal products or byproducts. Some will even so far as not consuming honey and yeast, and others will not wear any clothing made from animal products. Veganism is a diet and lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose. Vegans endeavor not to use or consume animal products of any kind. The most common reasons for becoming a vegan are ethical commitment or moral convictions concerning animal rights, the environment, human health, and spiritual or religious concerns. Of particular concern are the practices involved in factory farming and animal testing, and the intensive use of land and other resources required for animal farming.|||you can't have anything that comes from animals or is tested on animals.
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So, i've challenged myself to go raw vegan for a couple weeks (right now I have a terrible terrible junky diet). I was wondering if anyone knew of any good books I can read before hand so I can make sure I do things right and get all the nutrition I need. Any other tips are cool too!|||For starter recipes, nothing beats "Raw Food Made Easy" by Jennifer Cornbleet. For basic recipes and all sorts of information related to raw food, get "The Complete Book of Raw Food" by Julie Rodwell and Lori Baird.
Since raw foodists' digestive systems function quite efficiently, they absorb more nutrients from the foods they eat. Take a B-12, and you should be fine. Besides, no nutritional deficit is likely to manifest in just a few weeks.
Tip: At first, carry some raw cashews or a Lara Bar with you at all times, for cravings. Make sure you consume enough fat. Think you're craving protein? Eat half an avocado- it goes away.
Good luck!|||Well I became a raw vegan yesterday after being a pescetarian for 6 months and after that a full vegetarian for 8 months and it's incredibly great.
I had a banana for breakfast. 2 Apples for lunch. A strawberry smoothie with a bunch of almonds for snacky time. A few bowls of salad with all the raw veggies you could imagine.
It's amazing and my motivation is that I'm sick of America being so dam fat. I hate that America doesn't take care of itself. And I don't want to be the typical not only fat but unhealthy american. I've been an a natural healthy "obsession" lately. I've literally gotten into fights over health issues and I'm incredibly motivated over this. |||Two books I would recommend are: The Complete Book of Raw Food, edited by Lori Baird and Ani's Raw Food Kitchen by Ani Phyo|||This site will give you much of that and also recommend great reading etc:
http://www.living-foods.com/
im a 17 year old girl
my dad says being a vegan will so something negative to my reproductive system and that i have a chance of having unhealthy babies in the future.
true?|||well you need to make sure you get plenty of protein and lipids (fats basically) and calcium and iron most important of all. so really a healthy vegan would generally be a vegan who takes a fair few supplements aswell, because you really just cannot practically get enough iron into your body from veges alone, you need some meat or iron supplements.|||False. There are many healthy babies born to and breastfed by vegan mothers. If anything, you'll have a significant decrease in risk of pre-eclampsia. As long as you eat a healthy, balanced vegan diet, you're good to go. Infertility is brought on by underlying medical conditions such as endometriosis, diabetes, and pelvic inflammatory disease; not a vegan diet. Tell Dad that the vegans on Y!A say, " Pshh! Yeah right! Get your facts straight!" When the time comes, however, you will need to make sure your unborn baby is getting adequate nutrients and protein- which can be met with a well-planned vegan diet.|||the long term effects of early veganism?
1) vegans live on average 15 years longer than omnis
2) you will rarely get ill
3) your children will be super healthy and they will know of the cruelty that surrounds them
4) you will have the best tasting food
5) you will be more compassionate
enjoy!!|||long term effects=old age & great health!
lucky for you, there are books by the hundreds to teach you the truth.
my favorite statistic is definitely living 6-10 years long, because life is soooooooo beautiful and I dont want to miss a SECOND if I dont have to!
youre doing the absolute right thing for animals and for yourself :) you will feel & think differently, pretty life changing :)|||way false. veganism actually is healthier for the body, reproductive systems included. do you want chemicals or healthy nutrition for your future kids?|||your dad is just trying to scare you
there is a book called "generation v"
by claire askew. for vegan teens by a vegan teen. maybe it will help you|||not if u eat lots of protien like beans and tofu|||true
some don't eat good things so they lack calcium,protein and iron.|||Veganism may or may not have a negative impact on health. It depends on how the diet is planned, and what foods are eaten in what quantities, the same as any other diet.
There will be people who eat better and worse vegan diets, and a few might struggle. But the scientific data so far says that vegan diets, well planned, appear to appropriate at any stage of life, and can actually have significant health benefits over conventional ones.|||If the diet is balanced there really should be no problems
Vegans do have to be careful with vitamin B12 because this is only found naturally in animal products - meat, eggs, milk B12 deficincy can lead to anemia and nervous system damage
However it is only needed in very small amounts and as long as they are getting plenty of the fortified foods (where the B12 is made from bacteria)- fortified soya milks, cereals, marmite etc then there really should be no problem at all
Vegan society has some info:http://www.vegansociety.com/food/nutriti鈥?/a>|||A proper vegan diet has no negative impact on health.
A diet lacking in sufficient nutrients and minerals will affect the body in many ways; whether the diet is vegan, vegetarian, or omnivorous.|||There aren't any, as long as you eat a BALANCED DIET and get all of your nutrients.
There isn't anything in milk or meat that you can't find in vegan food. Except blood and high concentrations of fat and cholesterol.
From cookbooks, to the pain in the butt things about going vegan, to ingredients in foods to watch out for...? Thanks:)|||Skinny ***** and Skinny ***** in the Kitch|||The China Study, Vegan Freak, Diet for a New America, Becoming Vegan|||Vegan Yum Yum
Vegan Brunch
Food Revolution
Becoming Vegan
Animal Ingredients|||I recently read this book called skinny *****, that's the girl version, there is also a male version called skinny bastard. google them.
If yes, in what way and to what extent?|||Interesting question. I'm not a Buddhist although I've adopted some of their values and beliefs because I think many Buddhist teachings make sense. I believe in minimising suffering (whether that be human or animal suffering).Some branches of Buddhism promote veg*nism as a way of being compassionate for animals.
Some Buddhists believe eating meat creates 'bad karma', creating negative repercussions/consequences in a future life (note I said ''some'' Buddhists). The 5 moral Precepts act as a guide for Buddhists to help them live a moral life. You can view them as ''guidelines'' (for lack of a better word).
"Why should one refrain from killing? It is because all living beings have a life; they love their life and do not wish to die. Even one of the smallest creatures, the mosquito, when it approaches to bite you, will fly away if you make the slightest motion. Why does it fly away? Because it fears death. It figures that if it drinks your blood you will take its life. From this you can see that all living beings love life and do not wish to die. Especially people. Everyone wants to live and no one wants to die. Although people sometimes commit suicide, ordinarily people do not seek death. Suicide is a special exception to the principle. That is why we should nurture compassionate thought. Since we wish to live, we should not kill any other living beings. That explains the precept against killing''.
Just a reminder- I'm not Buddhist. I just think a lot of Buddhist teachings have credibility. Thanks for asking this. :]|||Thank you!! :-) Report Abuse
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I'm Catholic and I have been ever since I was little.
While the Church has no official "stance" on animal cruelty that I know of, I have personally found that my veganism fits in nicely with my being Catholic.
My God is a kind and merciful being. I don't think He ever intended His creation to be treated in manners that so-called factory farms deem to be necessary. As He created everything in a way that is pleasing to Him, I think He would want us to live in the most harmonious way possible with other animals.
I think all creatures deserve respect. Torturing, genetically modifying, abusing, cutting off limbs (and beaks and so on) is not what I call respectful. Yes, they are animals, but they are all sentient beings. God created a vast variety of animals with vast varieties of intelligence and comprehension. Just because we're human and we happen to have the highest functioning brain out of all doesn't give us the right to do as we please with the animals.
I actually feel closer to God since abstaining from meat. I think that because I respect his creatures more, I have a greater understanding of what His love means to me. Since I stand in awe of all that He has created and do my best to honor it, I feel that He has drawn me closer to Him.|||No, I'm vegan because of animal rights, which is firmly grounded in fact and reasoning - philosophy.
However, I would say that veganism has had an effect on my 'spirituality' or whatever you want to call it. I'm more at ease and have a stronger Chi than before, but that could be because of many factors.|||it is an ethical choice, which would need to match with your other beliefs. I personally dont agree with abusing animals, but do agree with killing them for meat. I would also like to see better conditions, though.|||No, I am not religious. I am an animal lover and activist.
I believe that we should not abuse or slaughter animals. |||nope.
I eat meat but it makes me laugh how people think a Vegan diet is really unhealthy and have wild ideas that you will waste away on this diet. My mum is vegan to control her diabetes better and nothing has happened to her. If Veganism is so unhealthy, why aren't they dying left right and centre?|||I'm close to 50, healthy (my life insurance company insured me as super-preferred so they don't think I'm about to die anytime soon), and have been eating a vegan diet for about 25 years. My diet is high in fruits and vegetables and omega 3 fatty acids+ I supplement with B12 and vitamin D. I know a lot of healthy long-term vegans, middle-aged and older.
Now OTOH, cotton candy, potato chips and soda are vegan, so it is possible to have an unhealthy vegan diet, filled with junk food and low in micronutrients.
The real reason so many people think a vegan diet is unhealthy is that they are brainwashed by the meat industry to think you need meat for iron/protein/strength and that one needs dairy for calcium/strong healthy bones. When in reality, it's an excess of animal fat and animal protein that are major causes of heart disease and cancer. Also, many people are nutritionally illiterate. They ask vegans, "where do you get your protein?" or "where do you get your calcium?" not realizing that beans and green vegetables are excellent sources of protein and that there are many excellent vegan sources of calcium: almonds, sesame seeds, kale, etc.
Also, a lot of meat eaters don't want to know or believe that there's anything unhealthy, cruel, and environmentally unsustainable about their diet. It's easier simply to keep your head in the sand and attack vegans as being unhealthy, such as by pointing to a famous vegan or two with an eating disorder, generalizing that to the entire group, and not looking at any of the many positive examples of healthy vegans.
P.S. to Rockle: My husband is a vegan martial arts instructor with many blackbelts in many martial arts. Also, Cherie Soria, the vegan head of Living Light raw foods culinary school has more than one black belt in karate. The stereotype of whimpy weak vegans is just that--a stereotype.||||The "vegan diet" is not unhealthy because no reasonable diet really is. All of the "mainstream diets" emphasize "well balanced". However, some vegans, as with vegetarians and omnivores, are not as conscientious about what they eat as long as it meets the "rules" (no animal products whatsoever). Veganism isn't unhealthy but some vegans have an unhealthy vegan diet.|||veganism is just a diet. it can be done correctly or incorrectly. i think many people think that it's unhealthy cause they have been raised to believe that you need meat to live.
another reason might be because someone decides not to be vegan after while. this doesn't mean it's unhealthy,maybe they missed meat or were eating incorrectly. maybe they didn't have time to cook proper meals or maybe. it's all individual. many people are vegan for a lifetime.|||Vegan-ism is like any food lifestyle. You are what you eat. As long as you get the proper amount of nutrients to keep you body functioning properly then you will be healthy. Humans have omnivore teeth because that allows us to eat and get nutrients from both meat and veggies. However with proper supplements people can now eat however they want. It sounds like your mom has a good handle on her nutritional needs. Most people who embrace vegan-ism don't take a supplement or make sure that they replace the nutrition that they were getting through meat. So some people on any restrictive food diet will suffer some body issues and will look unhealthy|||To odimwitdwon: The ex-vegan you described probably got that way because she wasn't eating the right foods to maintain her weight and she wasn't taking iron pills to prevent herself from becoming anemic.
Because yes, you can easily live a healthy vegan life. You just have to know a lot about food and ingredients to ensure your getting enough protein, iron, etc.|||I'm a martial artist, fueled entirely by plant food. I just sigh when people tell me all vegans are pale and weak, with crumbling bones, and anemia.
I got my black belt after five years of not eating meat. (the black belt took a year... I was veg for 4 before that)|||It's strange how some people can become so infuriated and passionate over somebody else's diet. It's just food. It's not your body or your decision. Mind your own business, get rid of that hate in your heart, and just be happy!|||I'm not arguing that it can't be done healthfully but there are all kinds of diets that are not ok in the long run that people don't just drop dead from so that's not really a valid argument.|||...and meat eaters DO die of heart disease and colon cancer....good topic.|||Yeah, just like cigarettes! I've got a great uncle who is 90 and still smoking, so that is PROOF they aren't bad for you!!
What a moron.
I know another ex vegan who went on it to control her blood sugar. she lost weight, became borderline anemic and her doctor told her to get off her unhealthy diet and back to meat.
Let people who can think do the thinking, you should just follow their lead.
News Flash: Everybody has different genes.
News Flash: Everybody has different gut fauna
News Flash: Everybody is unique.|||Read some of these articles and think again:
http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-ve…
http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.h…
http://chetday.com/vegandietdangers.htm
http://www.listen2yourgut.com/blog/dange…|||is because they think vegans dont get enuf protein by eating veggis but is not true btw some meat is also healty
my gf is vg and she eats a fish or chiken once in a month|||Because most of them go back to eating meat. There are a lot of high profile vegans who have admitted they've gone back to eating meat because the vegan diet made them sick.
Angelina Jolie says "my vegan diet nearly killed me."
The VoraciousVegan (a top ten vegan blog of 2010) says "a vegan no more"
Author of the "Moosewood" cookbooks has gone back to eating meat. Her new cookbook includes recipes containing meat.
The Chicken-tender website "As I've alluded in recent posts, I've become a meat-eater. Not just a borderline omnivore who eats fish occasionally, but a full-on consumer of food-with-a-face."
VeganLunchBox: "...I now aspire to the label "nutritarian" rather than vegan."
to name a few......
ADDED: Isn't it funny that when someone leaves the vegan diet, they're branded "eating disordered"? Ignoring, of course, that many vegans are vegan because of their eating disorder!
More at the link: "According to Dr. Angela Guarda, director of the Johns Hopkins Eating Disorders Program, many vegans (and vegetarians) who enter her treatment center initially deny an underlying problem—only to later confess that their efforts to avoid animal products were really an effort to avoid food in general. “In most of our patients, the vegetarianism is in the service of the eating disorder,” she said.
For this reason, Guarda and her staff try to dissuade patients from observing any form of vegetarianism while undergoing treatment, encouraging them to broaden their food repertoire to include some meat. Other eating disorder and nutrition specialists report similar approaches.
Dr. Marcia Herrin, founder of the Dartmouth College Eating Disorders Prevention, Education and Treatment Program and now a dietician in private practice, takes a stricter (if potentially problematic) approach: Herrin tells parents not to let their kids be vegetarian until they go to college, echoing that the diet can create a “ruse” that loved ones can’t see through. “Most families don’t have the time to prepare vegetarian entrées,” she said. “What’s at risk is the child’s growth and development, and potentially an eating disorder.”
Herrin may be onto something: A 2009 study in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association revealed that young adults ages 15 to 23 who reported being vegetarian were, at some point, more likely to have also engaged in unhealthy weight-loss behaviors like bingeing, purging, and using diet pills or laxatives. And surveys show that the prevalence of vegetarianism among eating-disorder patients is higher than in the general population."
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Im writing about the history, positive and negitive things about veganism. I need a thesis statment. Please help!|||Hint: Define veganism. Then, write about it by making agreement/disagreement. You can do both for your essay. It's best to get the sources and plan an outline before starting your draft.
Good luck!|||Veganism is a life stile priported by many to have many benefits.
I haven't tried raw veganism but my wife and I have been doing Fuhrman's Eat To Live diet for about a month. I've dropped from 220 down to 205. My wife has gone from 130 to 124.
I don't know much about raw veganism but I can tell you about Eat To Live. Fuhrman's philosophy is to eat mainly foods that give you the most possible nutrients, vitamins, and minerals for the fewest possible calories. His book lists the most common type of foods and assigns nutritional values to each, between 100 and 0. The more food you eat at the top (closer to 100), the more nutrition and the fewer calories you get. The foods that are closer to 0 give you more calories and less nutrition. Naturally, the foods that have the highest nutrient density are vegetables, followed by fruits, nuts and grains.
I don't know if raw veganism makes any distinctions about nutrient values. Maybe someone else can answer that one for you.
I've been following the Eat to Live program about 90 percent of the time for the last month or so. I fill up as much on the high nutrient value foods as I can. But I still eat burgers (had 3 last week) fries, chicken and other food I love too - just not as often as I used to.I also love a glass of red wine a couple times a week. So I don't feel I'm depriving myself, and I never feel hungry.
Eat To Live isn't for everyone. You need a certain amount of discipline, but there's no counting calories, totaling up points or measuring portions. And no hunger. Does it work? Absolutely, if you follow the guidelines. Will it work for someone who's already willing to be a vegan? Probably like gangbusters.
Check out the review below if you want to read about it in more detail.|||You may as well eat broken glass as try either of those diets.
I have a lot of info for my speech, but I need a few tips on how to keep it informative and not sound persuasive... Any advice & tips are welcome..|||Well, it depends on your focus, I suppose. You have one option, which is to completely avoid any discussion of the touchier subjects.
Another one is to have the part of your speech that discusses reasons for going vegetarian be as neutral as possible. Rather than saying, "Factory farms are morally wrong because the animals are kept in horrible conditions," say, "Ethical vegetarians are often concerned by the treatment of animals in factory farms. They object to practices such as tail and ear docking and debeaking. They also cite overcrowding and unnatural diets as reasons for objecting to factory farms."
When discussing environmental concerns, do the same thing. Rather than saying, "Factory farms have a negative impact on the environment," say "Vegetarians also have environmental concerns about commercial animal agriculture. They often point out greenhouse gasses, manure lagoons, etc, etc."
Basically, add a "Vegetarians and vegans worry/say/etc" before statements that can be construed as persuasive. I also suggest avoiding visual aids that show the uglier side of things, as they are definitely rhetorical tools that are designed to persuade.
Good luck to you.|||I would say just use facts and the information you got without putting your opinion in.
I took a speech class a few months ago myself and writing informative speeches was almost like writing a research paper. So if you keep that in mind and don't bring up your opinion you should be fine.
Hope I helped:))
and Good Luck by the way:]
-What made you do it?
-How do you deal with peoples comments?
-Tell me, do you HONESTLY judge meat eaters and get mad when they judge you or do you hate people who judge you and don't judge others?
-Worst thing that somebody as said/done to you?
p.s. i am a vegan =DD|||Well I just ate a hamburger and saw petas website and I watched a video on farm animals and I literally threw up afterwards. I couldn't deal with myself knowing I had just eaten a juicy burger and after seeing those videos it made me sick. After finding more and more about animal products I learned how unhealthy animal products were so that helped a lot too but mainly it was for the animals.
As far as dealing with people's comments I have been asking that same question on here. I learned what makes me feel good is to stand up for it because it is now something I really believe in and I am not going to let people put me down for it. I don't push it on anyone else but if they are going to ask me about it or put me down for it than I definitely speak up.
I hate it when I'm judged and I hate it when other's are judged. I don't see meat eaters as bad people at all, I see them as uneducated and it is not that I get upset with them until I realize how closed minded they are and aren't even willing to learn the TRUTH and FACTS.
The worst thing was this past weekend at fathers day, we were visiting my bf's parents and him and I both went vegan over a month ago and his family hate the fact that we did. When we walked in the first thing I heard were gunshots on the television. His father and brother in law purposely were watching the HUNTING channel on extra loud so we could here the gun shots and animals. At the dinner table they would make dying animal noises as they ate their steak and after dinner they kept making smar a$$ comments. It was so overwhelming.
These were some great questions. I love being vegan, and bless you for being vegan!|||- Seeing animals being abused and living in foul places and the pollution I would not be contributing to (water and air pollution) by not eating animal-derived products.
- I don't! I give them a HUGE lesson on how animals get to their plates then later on, I send them my slide show I made about factory farms!
- I don't mean to judge, but I unfortunately think less of meat-eaters. Especially if they know what happens to animals. Yes, I get annoyed when I'm judged. Kind of unfair, I know.
- Um... I'm not sure. I got upset when my best friends kept saying I'm unhealthy by going vegan even though I had researched it thoroughly and told them everything I knew.
thanks :)
Go veggies! Whoop whoop!|||-well i've always loved animals and every time i ate one i just felt horrible about it, so i became a vegetarian (i am a vegetarian not a vegan.)
-i tend to ignore the comments that people say like when they try and tempt me in to eating meat.
-i dont judge meat eaters because it is there decision but i hate hate hate when they try to get me to stop being a vegetarian or say something how animals need to be eaten and should be used for animal cruelty because nobody cares about them. WELL I DO!
-some told me "vegetarians are spawned from the devil, because meat is delicious and needs to be eaten." that hurt me reall reall baddd.]:
[:|||-I'm a vegan because of animals cruelty and I was paranoid that I would get a high cholesterol (even thought I was already a vegetarian and only ate a little dairy and only egg whites. It was kinda silly, but whatever).
-I normally deal with people's comments by giving them an explanation because usually the comments are questions asked rudely.
-I don't like when people judge me because I never judge anyone else.
-Sometimes people say to me "I love animals too! They are delicious!"|||I realized I didn't have to eat an animal for a meal and there were plenty of other good things
I just ignore peoples comments I'm 13 years old I've decided that I don't want to eat meat and I don't give a S**t about what you think about veggies
I don't judge meat eaters and I get very mad when they judge me.
The worst thing someone has done is my bffs little bro offered to make me and my friend popcorn. He has never liked the fact that I don't eat meat. He put pieces of pepperoni in the popcorn. Luckily I didn't eat it. And the worst part is my friend told her mom and she said Oh well he shouldn't have done it but it's nothing to get mad over. And I was like uhh... (thinking to myself) WTF LADY IT'S REALLY RUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
*I was crying my little eyes out*|||well i am a lacto ovo vegetarian, attempting strict vegetarianism. but i did it for the animals sake, but the heath reasons keep me going.
people havent really made a horrible comment twords me yet, but some try to get sassy with me, and i just inform them the best i can. i dont preach, i inform. Friends keep asking if i want to come over because they are grilling out burgers....they are teasing and it does get annoying.
no i dont judge meat eaters, im engaged to one :). yes if someone were to judge me i would hate that.
i work at a restraunt, and my co workers keep threatenig to sneak meat into my veggie sandwich! i hope i never tick them off!|||my father used to slaughter our own chicken,bulls and we had to eat them, i had to control every urge i had to throw my meal in their face and tell them how horrible it was, sometimes id refuse to eat our animals, but it was that or starve. when i was an adult i became aware of the health benefits and went vegan to a year ago, i now also eat free range eggs.
To be honest noones ever made bad comments to me, and ifthey have its never upset me. im usually the first to joke with others so they feel at ease with me, it works well. for example, when buying a pizza, i tell the man to beef it up without the beef, and laugh with them.
i never judge meat eaters, i couldnt care less if they eat meat, as long as they dont cook it in my kitchen, thats my only quirk. i think id have to throw out anything in my house if meat touched it. ick.
noones said anything bad, i get the opposite, im a tactful person, and people r very nice to me, many are interested and are very curious and ask a lot of questions. hOwever the worse thing has been when family come over and think they can bring their bacon with them for dinner.|||-I was in kindergarden, and as soon as i realized that "pork" was pig and "beef" was cow, i just couldn't eat it
-I don't really take it to heart. I'm used to it, having been one since i was very little. If they tell me it's stupid, i just explain and use examples of real facts and statistics.
-I don't really judge meat eaters, because the reast of my family eats meat. But i can't help but be annoyed when people roll their eyes at my eating habits.
-a friend one time told me to try some noodles, and then after i did she laughed and told me it was meat. also, my brother bugs me all the time and loves eating meat very messily..|||-I just never really like meat (exept fish)
-I don't really care what people say. If they ask why I don't eat meat, I just tell them I don't really like it
-My whole family eats meat and they kinda questioned me when I started but now they are cool. I guess it kinda bugs me when people look at me weird when I refuse meat, but I guess I'm just a person that doesn't really care what people think. That's a good way to deal with it:just don't care. You are you and they have to accept that.
-Someone called me a freak but I just shrugged and forgot about it.
=D|||-The animal protein/cancer link made me do it
-When people comment, i tell them that they wouldn't love me half as much if I weren't such a little deviant freak
-I kinda do want to judge non-veggies because they have no idea how they are wrecking their health for a bite of dead flesh, but if I say something, I say it so jokingly that they take it well.
-everyone I know is really nice about it, they just say I am becoming like the "hippie" community I live in|||- well, im pretty sure that you have seen the video "meet your meat" that was more than enough to mske me switch. while it was disturbing to watch, im glad i found it.
- ugh.. dont even get me started on the trolls. i hate them. even if they dont understand us, that doesnt mean that they have to critsize us. my dealing with it is a thumbs down and depending on the comment, sometimes a pissed off mood. lol.
- ok, im going to be honest here. i have judged them before, but i really try not too. i dont say anything, its just hard to block those thoughts sometimes. i realize though, that not too long ago, i was one of them. thats what sickens me the most.
- my mom told a bunch of people that i was a vegitarian even though i wasnt ready to tell people yet. im not mad at her any more though.
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-people think its crazy but theyre crazy for eating all that death, carcusus, milk has puss and blood, meat has adrenaline and hormones.
-no i dont jundge meat eaters its their decision such as i have my own
-they just try to make you eat it, but its my lifestyle and i have to be tough and handle it,and think about it your ganna be heathier|||-i love animals to death and i found out what really happens at the slaughter houses.
-i just blow them off and say screw you
-i hate people who judge me. i dont judge them
-this one person threw meat at me during lunch. it was aweful.|||I know a lot of meat-eater /vegans that just don't eat dairy or any processed foods. Its up to the individual .|||im only vegetarian, more then have of the ppl on here who said they dont judge meat eaters are f*cking liers
Look, people who are vegan generally live longer, and meat is murder that murders. watch this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05zhL1YUd鈥?/a>
the oldest person to ever live in Britain was vegan and we have evolved from an animal which was vegan. our digestive system hasn't changed much since then aswell.
i am a vegan and i live in the UK|||I think that a carefully planned vegan diet is the healthiest diet out there.
Many people don't realize that it's possible to get most of our necessary vitamins and minerals from vegetable sources. Many people believe that the ONLY way to get calcium is from milk, Iron only comes from beef, etc.|||Some vegans don't eat the right foods to get enough vitamins, so they have a vitamin deficiency. If you really do the research, you shouldn't have problems.|||if you were going through the struggle i am, you'd understand
I HATE the stuff i'm eating. I HATE tofu and the like
Who cares if I live longer if i hate eating what used to be the thing i looked forward to so many times in my life
I assure you it's not healthy chewing off my arm, but that's what I feel like. I feel like i could eat a fork.|||Lack of B12 and vitamin D.|||Veganism is the healthiest diet there is. But there are different forms of vegans. Some eat junk food and other food like that because it isn't meat and isn't dairy. Then there are some that strictly eat organic foods that are a healthy replacement for the vitamins that we need in meat and dairy [remember, its the vitamins and protein people need, not the milk and meat itself]. The people who think we are "unhealthy" probably categorize us as the junkfood addicts. They're don't want to believe the fact that vegans and vegetarians are healthier than them (:|||I think that is just a lack of awareness in most cases. I have been vegan for 8 years and have had a healthy vegan pregnancy and I still get people wondering "how I did that". They think that all I can eat is salad and worry that it is unbalanced.
The general population seem to be very uneducated about diet and health and think you need milk and meat to be nourished properly - this is thanks to the advertising campaigns of the dairy and meat industries (ie: if you don't eat dairy you will definitely have crumbling bones by the time your 40 etc)|||Vegetable oil is vegan, many margarines are vegan, lots of sweets (candies) are vegan, fries are vegan, crisps (potato chips) are often vegan... Vegan doesn't equal healthy. It can but not if you eat like an idiot!
The main reason it is considered unhealthy by some people is because those people are ignorant of the range of foods vegans can eat. Like most people they don't know much about nutrition except what they might have been told at school (propaganda, Meat = protein, cheese and dairy = calcium, chicken = 'lean meat', etc...). Many doctors are very patchy on nutrition too, lots of folks I know have had weird responses from doctors, most of whom have only had a little bit of nutritional training.
Its no big deal to get Vitamin D or B12 in Britain or any other developed country, they are added to many vegetarian and vegan foods anyway.
Read up on nutrition, ignore propaganda from anyone who wants to sell you something, especially if they have had to subsidise it to grow it! Live your life, don't preach be a shining example of how its easy and fun :-) I hope thats a useful response.|||I guess it's healthy as long as u get the proper nutrition u need. So, yeah, if u r sure to get all of the essentials from non-animal sources, u don't have 2 worry about saturated fats. It's quite simple, really. If u don't eat fried steak or french fries & other high fat foods like these (and exercise!), u will b less likely to die of heart disease- the leading cause of death in the U.S. IDK what's the leading cause of death in the UK.
However, as far as that video goes, I don't agree at all. We r omnivores and they were comparing us to carnivores. So, u gotta compare apples to apples- NOT apples to oranges! Compare us to swine, poultry, monkeys, or apes. That would b comparing apples to apples.
Personally, I think we evolved as scavengers. Just eating whatever was around- berries, vegetation, and animal carcasses.
Pigs r an excellent example b/c we r so closely related. We feed them mostly soybean meal, corn, and vitamin mineral premixes. So, if the pigs can prosper off of that, we could, too. LOL!
As far as the teeth go, we have molars.. yes. We have k-9s.. yes. Even though they r small, look at the pig and wild boar! Through evolution b/c of tools, our mouths have become smaller... they r actually still getting smaller b/c we use forks and knives. This is y so many ppl r having to get their wisdom teeth removed; We simply don't have room for 'em.
Chimps eat termites and fruit... etc. Some even hunt in packs for smaller monkeys to eat.
"Meat is murder that murders." I understand the 1st part "meat is murder," but not the last part. Could u explain it, please?
BTW, I recently learned that ur body synthesizes vitamin B12 if u get sufficient cobalt in ur diet. It's found in broccoli, spinach, and oats. Yum. Vitamin D is made by ur skin when u spend time (15 min.) in the sun. U'd have to b a vampire to have THAT deficiency.
I guess it takes a lot of work to b a healthy vegan.. more than a healthy non-vegan. The 1st thing I think of is milk. Duh? Of course u can drink soy milk. Every1 isn't a nutritionist.|||A few reasons,
1) Some people hate vegans cause they feel attacked by anyone with differing views, so they make things up.
2) Regular meat eaters find it difficult to comprehend not eating dairy, meat, eggs etc so they pick any flaw in a vegan (skin, weight etc) and blame the veganism.
3) Some vegans are unhealthy. Their hearts are in the right place but they don't vary their diet and miss out on essential supplements. It is a shame because it gives people a bad impression of vegans who in general are perfectly healthy.
4) Plain ignorance.
ADD: Soy milk cotains both B12 and D2. (see what I mean about ignorance)|||People think vegans will lack protein but meat isn't the only source of protein.|||It mainly has to do with B12 deficiency (and, depending on whether or not one knows how to eat the right combination of partial-protein and amino-acid sources, protein deficiency).|||Whether or not meat is murder is a matter of personal opinion, not fact. Though the phrase "meat is murder that murders," is a bit strange. Many animals eat other animals to survive, and humans ARE animals. We can make the choice to not slaughter other animals for food, but the question of whether it's moral for us to do what other meat-eating animals do is a personal decision
I would argue that we most definitely have NOT evolved from vegan animals. Vegetarian, maybe, but assuredly not vegan. But the fact does remain that our bodies ARE designed, right now, to be omnivorous, regardless of what we were designed to eat a few hundred thousand years ago. If we weren't capable of eating meat--i.e. 'meant' to eat it, then nobody would because it'd make us sick or kill us.
For the record, I say all that as a vegetarian. There are plenty of good reasons to eat either a vegetarian or vegan diet without getting diving into the realm of supposed facts for which there is a mountain of contradictory evidence.
Veganism is considered unhealthy by people who eat meat because it's a foreign concept to them. It involves the utter exclusion of what for many people is the primary source of their diet, so they immediately think of the things that meat offers--B vitamins, iron, protein--and the first thing that occurs to them is nutritional deficiency. Vegetarianism is easier to swallow because so many vegetarians continue to eat eggs and dairy products. But since veganism is so much stricter, they don't think beyond the excluded foods, not at first.
At let's face it, veganism, and vegetarianism also but to a lesser extent--CAN be unhealthy if you aren't careful. It requires more consideration and effort to get all the things your body needs, and lord knows it's entirely possible to eat an unhealthy diet as a veg*n. There's plenty of junk food in the world that contains no animal products. So I think that most people just assume that someone getting into a vegan diet is not going to be making any changes to their diet beyond excluding meat, dairy, and eggs. It doesn't occur to them that someone going vegan is (or should, assuming they're intelligent) going to do their homework in order to find out how to eat conscientiously without sacrificing their health.
All they see at first are the excluded foods, not the overall dietary changes.|||Its these non vegetarian people who to justify themselves have started spreading that vegetarianism is not healthy since veg food does not provide all nutrients. Which is absolutely incorrect.
There are plenty of fruits, vegetables and pules that provide all nutrients required to lead a healthy life. Different vegetables have different levels of nutritional values. Therefore, it is very important to have a healthy combination of foods in the vegetarian diet, so as to provide the body with all the essential nutrients.
Now-a-days people are quite conscious of their figure. In such a situation, a vegetarian diet is always preferred over the non-vegetarian diet. A vegetarian diet consists of vegetables which have low level calories and high level of vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants.
In fact, a non-vegetarian diet is not healthy. In the past, many viewed vegetarianism as strange and faddish but appropriately planned vegetarian diets are now recognized by many, including the American Dietetic Association, as being nutritionally adequate, and providing healthful benefits in the prevention and treatment of chronic diseases.
Choosing a nonvegetarian lifestyle has a significant health and medical cost. The total direct medical costs in the United States attributable to meat consumption were estimated to be $30-60 billion a year, based upon the higher prevalence of hypertension, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, gallstones, obesity and food-borne illness among omnivores compared with vegetarians.
A large body of scientific literature suggests that the consumption of a diet of whole grains, legumes, vegetables, nuts, and fruits, with the avoidance of meat and high-fat animal products, along with a regular exercise program is consistently associated with lower blood cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, less obesity and consequently less heart disease, stroke, diabetes, cancer, and mortality.
BEING VEGETARIAN has a host of beefits. Not only you save a poor animal's life, but also led a more healthy life. Ayurveda has also proved that people who eat non-vegetarian food are more aggressive and have high chances of involving in violence. While vegetarian food keeps the balance of body and mind.
Also, you must not only be vegetarian in your diet but also in your lifestyle. You must avoid use of leather and other items in your lifestyle that comes from the life of a poor animl. Check this link for CRUELTY FREE FASHION: http://beautify-flr.blogspot.com/2009/01鈥?/a>|||Vegans are healthy people. Its a matter of your lifestyle, what you eat, how you live, stess factor, exercise routine etc that would determine your health.
vegan diet provides all nutrients to lead a healthy life. You just have to eat a healthy diet. Vegans and vegetarians are the healthiest people alive.
You must have heard of the famous actor Amitabh Bachchan? He is a strict vegetarian, 6 feet 1 inces tall and even at this age (67 years), he is healthy, fit and doing umerous movies, world tours, etc.
Its just people who want to excuse themselves justify their killing of animals by saying that being vegan woul be unhealthy. However it is quite the contrary|||That should be obvious
http://www.crispyontheoutside.com/2009/0鈥?/a>
Its pointless and unhealthy. Then they think its "natural", whats natural about not eating meat? Man is an omnivore, he eats everything. Vegans think its the natural way to live, well people 1000 years ago didnt have vitiman and iron suplements.
And i dont care how much pain a cow of chicken goes through in its life, its going to be killed anyway.
Veganism only became prevelent in the 60's when sexy began to mean thinn. Weight freaks posing as activists for animal rights. What a crock of ****.|||I don't think vegans are stupid. It's their choice whether they want to eat meat or not, and I think we should respect them!|||I don't see a problem with vegans. But I do agree with you that it's not natural, for my food technology course I have to learn about vegetarian and vegans, who mainly seem to eat micro-protein, err hello how is that in anyway natural?|||We are omivores, vegs are full of pesticides and I would rather take my chances eating meat than dying of genetically modified vegs or pesticide contamination!|||People are entiteld to be vegans of they want to be.
Did you know that a field used for cattle that will become MacDonalds burgers, would have enough grain to feed a substantial number of people in the developing world?
Meat is murder|||It's thier choice.|||Maybe if you didn't eat so much meat you wouldn't be so miserable and angry.|||i dont think that we can judge something if we haven't done it, and you can't do it fully unless your doing it for the right reason,s i think those who choose to can, but me personally i could never i love chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream too much, (btw if you didn't know they dont eat anything that didn't come from nature aka dairy..egg..etc...|||me|||Take it easy.|||everyone is entitled to eat what they want but I dont think it no more stupid than not eating pork or cows, feel me.|||Vegans believe that their dietary and lifestyle practices would contribute to healthier world ecology. Vegans can cite many statistics that show that the American meat-centered diet is contributing to environmental problems. The main thrust of vegans鈥?ecological position is that it takes many more resources to produce meat than it does to provide a grain-based diet, and people can be fed better with grain than with meat. For instance, it takes 10 lbs (4.5 kg) of grain to make 1 lb (0.45 kg) of beef. On one acre of land, 20,000 lbs (9,000 kg) of potatoes can be grown compared to 125 lbs (57 kg) of beef during the same time. Environmental problems caused by the inefficient production of livestock include topsoil loss, water shortages and contamination, deforestation, toxic waste, and air pollution. Veganism can be better understood by considering the ethical, ecological, and health reasons that motivate vegans. Vegan diets are often recommended as dietary therapy for heart disease, high cholesterol, diabetes, strokes, cancer, obesity, arthritis, allergies, asthma, environmental illness, hypertension, gout, gallstones, kidney stones, ulcers, colitis, digestive disorders, premenstrual syndrome, anxiety, and depression. At present, however, no studies exist that define the efficacy of vegan diets in treating these conditions. Nevertheless, a well-designed vegan diet is an effective weight-loss diet, and is an economical and easy preventive health practice.|||i dont think its pointless and unhealthy. some people just dont want to eat cows and calves and pigs ect. and eating vegetables and fruit and other non-meat products are more healthy then sucking down all the fat from pork and bacon|||I am a meat eater because that is what i chose to eat. I think it is your choice what u like to put into your body because it is yours to take care of. They eat Soy and tofu to replace the protein in meat. I worked with a "leave eater": that is what i like ot call them lol. The only thing that drives me nuts about people that have different diets is that they disrupt a picnic or Barbecue because they can not eat the same things. But like i said it is their bodies and u have to respect their choices.
I think u are right about it being some kind of stand against eating animals because the person i mentioned kept saying that she would not eat an animal because she was going to save its life by not eating it. She was always making a point of it and and looking at us like there was something wrong with us.|||i cant really c the point in it but everyone has a choice....myself i hardly ever eat meat but dont call myself vegan i just dont like the tase of most of it and im sure that no meat at all is not good for u really no matter wot u eat to substitute it there is nothing better than the real thing|||It is not stupid, SOME PEOPLE SUFFERS FROM A DISEASE or SICKNESS CALLED LUPUS.... IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A LUPUS IS.....Google it.
Other than that, TO EACH THEIR OWN. =)
FYI, I EAT MEAT, VEGGIES, POULTRY and JUST DON'T MAKE ME EAT CATFISH! lol
EWWWW...|||It's personal preference isn't it? I personally don't eat red meat because I simply don't like it (but I will eat poultry).
Some people think it's wrong to eat a living creature, that's their choice, doesn't make it right or wrong, it just means they don't get to enjoy a big fat roast chicken!|||I don't think you wanted to ask a question, you just wanted to go on a tirade. You are wrong about the protein. Ask any doctor, they will tell you protein in soy is more than enough. In fact, a lot of things you said were pretty far off base, but it doesn't seem like you are going to be receptive of info. You just want to be pissed off. Good luck on the whole growing up and chilling out thing. You might find when you stop being so invested in your feelings of what others don't eat you'll be less angry?|||What a nasty thing to say about cows and chickens , I don't want my chicken (Henrietta) to be in pain she is lovely, I hope you are going to say sorry to her and tell her you didn't really mean it?? She is really upset now!/|||I agree, but for different reasons.|||I do think its unhealthy.
I do believe its their choice.
I do have canine teeth and I do believe they are for tearing flesh.|||I won't say it is stupid but I do think it is an unwise choice of diet. You are correct, humans are omnivores, we need nutrients from meat and dairy products to stay alive and healthy and supplements are not as effective as natural sources of nutrients. Also the animals that are bred for food would not be able to cope in the wild, so if we all stopped eating meat and dairy products these animals would all have to be killed anyway!
If its medical then you have no choice, and I feel for you. If you genuinely don't like meat and dairy products fair enough, its the self righteous vegans (and vegetarians) that annoy me!|||Just a thought-it's not natural for animals to be pumped full of anti biotics and growth hormones, which we then in turn will eat when we eat meat. It's natural to eat what you want, not to tell other people what to eat.|||count me out|||May be stupid, what to me?|||it's their choice...
think....
you died because of vegetable is cool
but you died because of meat is cooler...|||don't know if its stupid very annoying to all us meat eaters ,bet if if it was a choice of eating meat and nothing else survival would kick in but free choice and all that wonder if they ever enjoy a meal ..daughter a veggie and dinning out is a nightmare lucky if you get one choice on menu but sometimes enjoy veggie pizza and burgers ..and nut roast WATS that about ..dry roasted nuts ..what about the ones who do Atkins diet ...|||theres a saying whats food for one is poison for another, so you go ahead and eat non veg but let the vegetarians eat what they want to its all a matter of choice and i think we should respect that,and i think some people have turned to veg after mad cow disease and bird flu, and yes life is a circle birth and death is for all .proteins and vitimans are found more in veg and pulses than meat, meat contains a lot of fat amd protiens and people like blood pressure patients and heart problems usually change their diet, so dont look down on veg may be some day you might just have to eat it|||HUMANS ARENT OMNIVORES. YOU DONT HAVE FANGS LIKE A FLESH EATER.CANINE TEETH ARE NOT FANGS.1000 YRS AGO THE LIFE EXSPECTANCY WAS 25 -35 YRS OLD.1000 YRS AGO HUMANS DIED OF ALL KINDS OF FUNKY DISEASES INCLUDING POOR NUTRITION. SORRY YOU HAVE AN EATTING DISORDER AND HATE THIN HEALTHY PEOPLE BUT THAT NEGATIVITY IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU ANY SEXIER WITH THE LADIES..EAT A CARROT!|||yes it is stupid. i could not live without BEEF JERKY. it is the most delicious food known to man. and also the manliest food known to man. i LOVE it. i feel sick when i don't eat meat for a long time. i go without meat sometimes because i am poor. but when payday rolls around, i buy some steaks and JERKY, BABY!!!!
mmmmmmmmmmmm, jerky, aaaaaallllggghh.|||It is a matter of respect. I respect your beliefs, so why dont you respect theirs. I used to be a vegan, not through choise but I just couldnt stand handling meat or animal products. In saying that I am naturally pale and that is to do with menalin in the skin and not just fats. Menalin reacts with light to give colour on the skin as a protection from the damaging rays of the sun. There are vegan suppliments that someone can take so there isnt really a risk of malnutricion. If you think of a food you dont like then ask yourself why. That is the same for some people, either they dont like the taste of texture, sometimes even the smell alone can put anyone off something for life. Even association can affect someones eating habits. I dont eat coleslaw because it reminds me of morning sickness, a bad experience can stay with you for a long time.
Veganism has been around for a long time before the '60s but not so widely known. If you look at some religions the have fasts witch where you cant eat certain foods.|||They can do what they want, I'm no one to judge.
Without sushi I'd die though. A long, horrible, painful sushi deprived death.
I am a vegan, but I would like to know is what make the pigs who eat meat think that they are stronger than us , because some of thje smartest people in the world are vegen or vegatarian(albert einstein) And show me proof of why you think we are " insane" when most of you people saying that are the people with no jobs and your fat!|||The reason most meat eaters get offended is because many Veg*ns act like they are better than meat eaters.
Also, the meat eaters know that being a Veg*n is very hard and they could never do it, so they mock those who can.
Also, they have an inferiority complex. They delude themselves into thinking animals don't matter to get rid of the guilt that is associated with animal slaughter.
Not to mention, people have been eating meat for so long, that it is too commonplace for people to really think about anymore. I guarantee, if people had to kill their own food, most people would be Veg*n now days.|||well i have a job im not fat im really healthy in fact i could brobably pick up your malnurished butt 6 feet off the ground|||i like your idea.|||hun i eat meat and i am not a pig bu it is part of life it is like the fish who eats a fish who eats a fishget it|||I am a vegetarian and do not think I am smarter than omnivores, nor have I found omnivores to feel that they are smarter than me!|||I eat meat, I'm skinny, School is my job, and i could care less that you don't eat meat...|||I don't know, maybe it's because your judging people based on their beliefs. If you don't want to be judged based on what your beliefs are, then don't criticize others for how they choose to live their life.
I get sick of people who have different practices having this "holier than thou" attitude. I really don't think there is a justifiable answer to your question since it its extremely biased and one-sided.
I personally admire veganism and vegetarianism for its wholesomeness and purity, but I do not admire some people who practice it, thinking only their way is right, so I am torn on my opinion.|||Wow, that was pretty hateful and stereotypical. You are entitled to eat whatever you choose, as am I. I don't consider myself nor my family pigs for consuming meats.
I think that you maybe insane for your ridiculous rant and slanderous remarks. There are much better ways to pass on your beliefs rather than "bash" someone who lives differently than yourself.|||I am a full time student and have a job, I am physically fit, while I have friends that are vegans and vegetarians I do eat meat. I do not consider myself a pig and I do not consider my vegan or vegetarian friends insane. If you do not espouse your views in such a strong way and you stop putting people down for what they chose to put in their bodies then maybe they would stop calling you names.
Even Gandhi ate meat...he believed that if all Indians ate meat then the world would stop taking advantage of them because they would become stronger.|||amen! i'm a vegan, and my doctor says i'm very healthy. People give me junk about it all the time, you just gotta learn to ignore it.|||Maybe the meat eaters dont like you because you call us insane unemployed fat pigs. I dont truly care what you eat so there.|||You aren't proving your point. First you say that we think we are stronger than you but your counterpoint is that you know some vegetarians who are smart. There is a hell of a difference in strength and smarts. And by the way, whether someone eats meat does not make them a genius.|||People who eat meat arent pigs and vegans/vegetarians arent dumb. You think they're talking bad about you but read what you just typed and you sound just like them.|||i'm fit, healthy and excell at school, meat has Vital protiens and minerals for growth.
how can one NOT eat meat?
do you know how many animals die during the wheat harvest season? countless numbers of mice, ferrets and rabbits.
don't you think that you kill plants when you eat it? and guess what..."For every animal you don't eat, i'm going to eat three"
~Maddox|||Wow, as a vegan myself, I am quite disturbed by your comments. I can see why people would find you insane and you obviously aren't one of the smart vegans. Honestly, attacking people for their life choices is not only ignorant but completely detrimental to your cause.
If the entire world was vegetarian we would have more problems feeding people and a greater oil crisis than we do now. What you should be crusading for is humane treatment of animals.
I have a question as well:
If you are such a friend to animals, why would you use the term "pig" as an insult? Surely you must know that pigs are one of the smartest animals, as well as one of the cleanest.|||First, I don't appreciate the hostility. Even if some idiots have been hostile to you, I guarantee you that everyone who eats meat here would not be so.
Second, I don't think intelligence has anything to do with whether or not you eat meat. A lot of the most brilliant minds in the world are NOT vegetarian, as well.
Third, the premise that a vegetarian diet is so much healthier isn't entirely accurate, although it is certainly not entirely wrong. You are not healthier because you don't eat meat. You are healthier because you eat so many good fruits and vegetables. You could eat a "vegetarian" (no meat) diet that consists of nothing but pasta, peanut butter, and candy, and you certainly wouldn't be healthier for not eating meat.
Fourth, I have no problems with anyone choosing a vegetarian or a vegan diet. I especially respect this decision when it is made for the purpose of maintaining a healthy diet. I can even respect these diets when the individual wants to be respectful of all life, and does not want another animal's death on his conscience. However, I have a real problem when someone calls me a murderer for eating chicken.
Finally, the no job and fat comment was just rude.
God bless.|||Wow....lots of pent up anger there, huh? I'm guessing you're pretty young, so just a word of advice: Learn now not to get so worked up over something so trivial. Your blood pressure will thank you when you're older. What do you care what anyone else thinks, anyway? You don't eat meat. I do. Does it really matter?
I certainly don't appreciate the name calling, especially since you can't spell or put together a proper sentence.|||stop being critical. i'm a vegetarian, but i absolutely hate american vegetarians.|||As much as ur question is biased, it is true on one side. I'm a vegetarian & many ppl think they're "stronger" than me & that I'm krazy for not consuming dead things. Might as well eat my arm...isn't that meat too?|||I don't know why meat eaters are threatened by us. I don't know why they come to our site and talk their uneducated nonsense. I think that the meat eaters who come to this area of yahoo answers are very curious by us and deep inside want to learn how to become non meat eaters...otherwise, why are they here?
Dont you think veganism is extreme because they dont eat eggs, cheese or drink milk?
Afterall eggs, milk and cheese have nothing to do with cruelty to animals right?
what do you think?|||VEGANS ----- comes under the phiposphy of living 100% with out animal products. hence they do not take any thing that have used animals milk.
VEGETARIANS------- they do not eat meat or eggs but do take milk.
Eggterians they take eggs also bout no meat.
all the three has nothing do with cruelity---there are some other reasons also.
it is more a matter of faith--people think the milk is for the offsprings of the animals----by drawing the mother milk out you leave no milk for those children (CALVES)and hence her love and affection for them. in case of eggs --chickens give eggs daily if thet hatch them then more chicken will be there and when you eat eggs your eating them when you fry an agg, you are frying a chicken baby . all birds ley eggs--if you do not eat them --there will be more birds.|||A true Vegan is one that does NOT USE ANY animal product at all. Eggs are the embryo, as for milk and cheese, some could debate that it has to do with how the milk is extracted from tand how the animal is kept on the dairy farm that is cruel .|||I think you should research a little more because dairy farms are quite cruel to the cows and chicken farms for eggs are just as bad.|||I still have yet to meet a healthy looking vegan and vegetarian, especially one that doesn't fall over if you push them with your fingertips.|||No, not extreme. Just different. Quite close to veggie.|||I don't reckon it's extreme; it's just another diet or lifestyle or whatever, usually chosen either for health reasons or animal welfare reasons.
Also, eggs, milk and cheese have a lot to do with cruelty to animals in today's world, because the desire for efficiency has made intensive farming the done thing; cows are impregnated forcibly year upon year to keep the milk coming until their bodies wear out, among other things (for example, impregnation equals babies, and what happens to the babies?) and chickens are kept in very poor conditions and so forth, and on it goes. There are lots of online resources and books that give information on the subject, both from a farming perspective and an animal welfare viewpoint. It's best to obtain the information from more factual, neutral sources, because otherwise there is an obvious bias for one side or the other. If you research a little into veganism you should find out some stuff. It's not much good me writing it here, because I'm a vegan for ethical reasons, and therefore anything I say will most likely sound preachy or biased or whathaveyou.
(Also, in regard to another person's response, I am a vegan, and I don't fall over when people tap me; I wouldn't say I was overly healthy (just stocky I'm afraid!), but, all the same, not all vegans are skinny or weak as that statement implies. I'm not trying to be argumentative though! :-D)
And in addition to that there are some people who simply believe that using an animal in any sense is exploitation - I'm not saying that this is good or bad, but simply that it is the case for some people - and therefore they do not eat any animal products - meat, cheese, milk, eggs, etc. - or wear any animal products - leather, fur, wool - or ride horses, or attend circuses where animals are in use, or fish, or visit pet shops, and so on and on.|||VEGANS---- real.
VEGETARIANS---- lying to themselves.|||Veganism is not extreme. Some people believe that animals should have the same rights as humans, therefore their products shouldn't be used for our consumption and benefit. Some eggs are related to animal cruelty, such as battery chickens. The chickens are kept in tiny enclosures where they are only able to move their heads. They are kept in rooms with no sunlight and are fed chemicals to 'enhance' the size of the eggs. These chemicals not only effect the chickens, but us as well. Here's an image for you:
http://aucklandanimalaction.org.nz/2/ima鈥?/a>
Cows are also kept in enclosures very similar to the chicken enclosures, where they are also fed chemicals.
Heres an image:
http://www.jennifermackenzie.co.uk/2005/鈥?/a>
I am just a vegetarian, but we buy organic free range eggs and organic milk, where animals are treated with respect and aren't fed chemicals, or kept in tiny cages.
I hope you now realise that cruelty to animals is VERY closely linked to dairy products and eggs.
If you are thinking of becoming vegetarian/vegan make sure you take supplements (not derived from animals) to ensure you have the right nutrients. Otherwise you are looking at ALOT of spinach.
For more information you can go to:
http://www.peta2.com/
because i do!!|||based on the numerous medical studies that I have read on that topic when the omnivor and vegan have diets of equal caloric value the difference between them is negligible.|||There's no doubt that it's healthier, but I've got to have my meat. Sorry.|||anything in moderation- except maybe arsenic.
I am a vegetarian. I feel the really bad food is fried , trans fats, artificial sweeteners, preservatives, and refined foods- white sugar, white flour.|||Only if you're eating the right foods to substatute for the protein that is missing in your diet. Generally, it is healthier, but I like my meat wayy too much.|||Meat is disgusting. I think that veganism is better for yourself and the animals.
I am vegetarian and working to become vegan.|||Strict vegan diets tend to be missing some essential amino acids because they are rare or totally absent in vegetable sources. It is SO much easier to get the nutrients you need if you eat just a little bit of cheese or eggs. Like maybe one egg a week and one ounce of cheese will do it, and will have no bad effects on your health.
If you are an ethical vegetarian, then you shouldn't worry about eggs and cheese: You can buy free-range chicken eggs and cheese from a local goat farm where they treat the animals well. Chickens lay lots of infertile eggs that we might as well eat, and goats usually line up to be milked when they are full.
i've been a complete vegetarian for almost 2 years.
i really want to be a vegan, but my parents don't want me to. they say it's unhealthy.
i feel it's right for me,but i don't really know where to start.
any tips?|||Vegetarians are okay. Vegans scare me more than Christians.|||eat losts of protein vitamins and calcium and things like that, drink soy milk as well. if you dont, you will be very very sick for the first while. Vegaterianism isnt wrong or unhealthy, you just have to do it the right way. remember to get all the vitamins and minerals you would normally get with meat and other things like that|||go to vegan wolf www.veganwolf.com this is a fabulous website and will give you a lot of information. Also stock up on some staples that will give you the ability to make up tasty vegan meals - all of the information is at vegan wolf|||Be a vegan just remember to eat your vitamin b complex pills. Dont get the gelatin pills, they are made from animal bones!|||Your parents are right. Veganism is unhealthy, and very unnatural for humans. Humans evolved as meat-eaters and require animal foods for proper nutrition. Keep eating your eggs and dairy and avoid soy - it is poison.
Contrary to dietary fads, your body needs fat and cholesterol to properly function.|||Actually, being vegan is very healthy for you since youre cutting out meat which contains a lot of fat.
Here's some tips:
~Make sure you get your protein. Eat pleanty of cheese, cottage cheese, nuts, and peanut butter.
~Make sure to eat raw fuits and vegetables, not canned or cooked, to make sure you get your minerals.
~Drink plenty of water.
~Try taking some vitamins too if you feel like you're not getting enough in your meals.
~Stay away from other high calorie high fat foods.
I hope this helped.
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http://www.caringconsumer.com/pdfs/compa…
Or frequent zoos, rodeos, circuses, or other places where animals are held in captivity or forced to perform.|||Well I've been a vegetarian for pretty much all my life.
If you feel that it's right for you however, don't let people get in your way.
When I first realized chicken was in fact that adorable little bird running around, nothing could stop me. Though people tried, as simalrly they said it was unhealthy, but nothing could stop me.
Now before you go all in, think about it. Is it actually what you want more than anything else?
What is the actual reason you're doing it?
Is it because you want to be healthier or thinner?
Or is it because you can't stand the fact of those animals being cooped up all their lives just so we can eat something?
Or maybe something else?
It's quite a commitment and you need to be all in.
If you are then good for you!
I wish I could be, but I don't have that kind of self-discipline. :P
Now, as for people telling you not to, try to convince them that it really can be healthy.
Since they clearly care about you, I'm sure they won't mind taking an extra trip to the store so you can have all of the food you need to stay healthy.
Also, don't go all at in at once. Maybe say, instead of eating eggs this morning I'll have cereal. Or instead of drinking milk I'll just have a glass of water. Don't try to convert yourself all at once, you'll get there gradually.
Now, I would try to help you out a little more, but this answer is already CRAZY long. If you want a little more info you can message me and I'll help you out as best I can.
Best of luck!|||dont eat meat|||Being vegan, if done cautiously, is very healthy. Check out this site:
http://goveg.com/|||Feel free to show this to your parents:
The American Dietetic Association, one of the leading nutrition experts in the country, states: "Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence."
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada…
In terms of where to start, you can incorporate some dairy substitutes into your meals and recipes - soymilk, vegan butter, soy yogurt, vegan cheese, etc. Here's a list of some dairy alternatives (as well as vegan fake meats): http://www.vegcooking.com/guide-favs.asp
For eggs, EnerG Egg Replacer is great for baking and scrambled tofu serves as a kind of scrambled egg replacement. Here is a vegan breakfast scramble: http://www.chooseveg.com/display_recipe.…
Good luck!|||Hi.
I am a vegetarian....and about the whole "vegan" thing, my mom feels the same way! She is a vegetarian too!
I know some good websites for you though:
~ goveg.com
~ vegsource.com (it might be .org...but pretty sure it is .com....my mom usedthis one)
~ veganoutreach.org (it might be .com)
~peta.org
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Those are some of the websites I use, besides vegsource.com.........I am researching veganinsm before i turn into one.
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I know a good shampoo from Target..they don't test on animals, but i don't know if it is vegan. I use it and I love it.
The company is called ORGANIX.
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Good luck!!!=]
I hope I helped!!!!!!!|||I would recommend people being vegans. If you really want to do it you should point out to your parents that although it seems unhealthy you can get you protein elsewhere. Nuts are a source of protein such as peanuts and walnuts, also beans, peas, lentils, and peanuts. Tofu is also tasty, it just depends on the way it is served and how, try miso soup or fried tofu with soy sause also a great vegan dish. Heres a website sure to help. http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/health.html|||Start finding vegan replacements for your consumables (body wash, shampoo, make up, cleaning products, cleansers, etc.)
By "complete vegetarian" do you actually mean strict vegetarian, where you've been following a vegan diet already? Or are you loosely referring to lacto-ovo vegetarianism? I'm not sure what "complete" vegetarians are. I imagine they'd follow a total plant based (vegan) diet, considering no vegetarian will eat meat at minimum. That's a given.|||a lot of this depends on how old you are. If you are old enough to buy your own food, then you can have more control over what you do. Ultimately, though, your parents set the rules for your house, so if they require you to eat some eggs/dairy as one of their house rules, and you can't convince them otherwise, you're stuck with it. Just start eliminating non-vegan products from the meals you do have control over. Maybe volunteer to cook a few meals a week for the family, and make them vegan. Then, when you move out of your parents home you can do what you believe is right for you.|||I've been in the same position before. I decided to wait til i didn't have to rely on my parents for food. At that point I adopted a vegan diet, slowly but surely. Start by eliminating one main vegetarian product at a time; like cut out milk and adopted an alternative to it, for a few months and then cut out eggs, butter or cheese, and adjust. I'd also highly recommended some sort of supplimentation like vitamins. Search out for gelatin free multivitamins directed towards vegans and vegetarians. They aren't that expensive at all. specifically try to suppliment: omega-3's vitamin b12 and calcium.
Oh yes,
Good Luck.|||Why? Think beef, chicken, fish....|||no meat, no honey, no eggs, no milk products, no leather, no silk,
wait! no meat - excellent, that's more meat for me. And more eggs and more cheese. Oh Mac "n" Cheese, pepperoni pizza, Denver Omelets!
Yes, Yes Yes, thank you animals for your sacrifice, the worms and maggots will enjoy me when I am dead and I don't care.|||Have a nice big Juicy T-bone steak! lol|||dont do it.|||Listen to your parents.|||Wtf is a vagen isnt the same thing as vegaterian, who cares anyway eat some meat!!!|||Eat lots of beans or something to get proteins and amino's.
You need fish to survive, we don't torture fish. We just kill em. Nice and easy.
hi, im just curious about veganism. specifically: what's the point? i understand that vegetarians are opposed to the way animals are treated and or killed. but with vegans why be opposed to ALL things from animals? like milk and cheese? how does that hurt animals?|||This is a very indepth topic, vegans I know are spiritual. Cows are sacred, garlic, onions and mushrooms are foods of ignorance. Vegans who are spiritual eat to please Krishna (God). All animals have souls and are not to be eaten.
Vegetables offered to Krishna are acceptable because once offered they may be eaten by servants of Krishna.
Not all vegans are spiritual and I am sure they have very good reasons for their chosen lifestyle.
Plus it is a very healthy diet, the additives in food are killing most of the world's population.|||The point is good health. Humans are naturally vegie dudes and dudettes. We don't have fangs, we have long intestines, etc. During the ice age humans took to hunting and eating meat because otherwise they would starve. The ones who could tolerate meat the best survived, and the practice continues. Back then, people only lived twenty to thirty years, so the bad effects of meat [heart attacks, stroke, etc.] were not seen. Now it's different. PETA are a bunch of maniacs in my view. This isn't a political issue to me. Simply good health.|||To be healthy in spirit and body, many maintain veganism. I think if you go to a health food store where you know that the products are more health conscious that it would probably be just as healthy to be a vegetarian. But, my body doesn't do well with meat anyway, so I am a seafood/vegetarian. I eat only seafood and vegetables and fruits. Although I do like my eggs, I get them from the chicken farm down the street from me and I live in the northern part of a large city.|||I think they don't like how the animals are enslaved to make milk, since they are forced to give milk or die. They think it is the same thing as slavery.|||I'll NEVER understand it. Every time i eat meat i think "wow vegetarians are retarded". its the best ever. animals were made to be eaten. go for it!|||I could never be a vegan. I do not believe in the senseless slaughter of millions of innocent plants for food.|||in some cases it does hurt the cows, they keep them lactating for long periods of time and some of the udders get swollen, pusy, and bloody. and that gets into the milk, chocolate, and strawberry milk have the higher amount of blood in it.
not all milk is done that way, there are places where that does not happen.
but with cheese it sometimes have a enzyme in it called rennet, and that is from the cow.
but there is cheese that is made "rennet free" and it is done without it.|||Vegans don't eat or use any animal products. Concerning dairy and eggs, like someone said before, cows are given steroids so they can produce lots of milk and their udders become over enlarged which can be very painful for them. Technically milk is only for cows calfs and not for us, like humans only give their babies their own milk. Lots of time cows live in their own filth. This includes chickens who lay eggs who also live in horrible conditions. Vegans won't wear leather or silk b/c a living thing dies in the process. Even things like wool, sheep are mistreated. Some vegans, yes, do it for health benefits, but many of them just have a great respect for earths creatures.|||I think it"s partly for health reasons and just to be different! How could the Vegans harm all those plants like that it"s hideous!!!|||Some do it for health reasons.|||it's illegal to say something bad about beef in my state. sure wish i could share some things on this topic.|||vegetarians do not eat anything animal related and most do not wear anything animal related or use any products which are tested on animals. they do not believe in the use of them for selfish gain when people can survive without. think about this, it takes 30 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef. and i believe it is about 30 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. these resources can go directly into helping starving people around the world.
vegans i believe tend to avoid meat more for health reasons, but probably agree with many aspects of full fledged vegetarians.|||It is totally hard. I have seen so many try it but can never stay the course.|||Vegan is great. It helps environment, health, cruelty, poverty, and many more|||Someone said:
'The point is good health. Humans are naturally vegie dudes and dudettes. We don't have fangs, we have long intestines, etc. During the ice age humans took to hunting and eating meat because otherwise they would starve. The ones who could tolerate meat the best survived, and the practice continues. Back then, people only lived twenty to thirty years, so the bad effects of meat [heart attacks, stroke, etc.] were not seen.'
A humans digestive system is more like a dog's than any herbivorous animal's, humans are naturally omnivorous, not veggie, we naturally eat meat and plants. We do have fangs, we call them canines, they are just smaller versions of the canines dogs have and serve the purpose of ripping meat. Eating meat does not cause heart attacks or strokes; true, it does contain saturated fat but if you have a healthy active lifestyle that's not at all a problem. The human body needs large amounts of different proteins. Not all the proteins we need can be found in plants, which contain different proteins (that's not to say those proteins aren't needed). Dairy products and eggs provide a good source of the proteins that you get in meat, but vegans don't have any way to get those proteins apart from supplements. Even with supplements the body is better adapted to get those proteins from meat.
Hi! I am trying to learn more about the vegan lifestyle. I want to see my body/mind at its full potential and would like to completly change my life and attitude torwards food.
I have been vegetarian in the past but only for 6 months(give or take), I did not lastdue to impulsive last minute cravings or not having the resources/support around me(i live in a rurual area) I absoultely love soy and vegetables and have a garden of my own...it's really a question of will power!!
So, I am looking for tips,ideas,love, support, and inspiring stories from the vegetarian /vegan community on how to make the transition and maybe on how YOU made the jump.
love and gratitude <3|||If you don't have a vegetarian/vegan community around you for encouragement, try subscribing to Vegetarian Times, and some of the on-line newsletters about vegan/vegetarianism. That will give you a community of supportive people, and give you news, recipes, ideas, and topics to consider.
Also, if you have a health food store reasonably nearby, get to know the proprietors. Many times these stores will have classes, or networks of people who share your ideas, that you didn't even know were there!
You might make some contacts at your local farmer's market, or Community Supported Agriculture group if you have one, also.
Good luck !|||You are already ahead of the game by just considering making the change. Im 26 and I've never had meat...EVER!! I ate fish up until '91 then I stopped. No meds.. Never took an tylenol.. all natural.. you can do it. You just have to have the will power and dont be afraid to spend a little money for some better food. Experiment. Where do you live?|||I live in boulder,co therefore I know about this. first off don't listen to people who say you aren't being nourished properly. the vitamins you will miss are easy to get, you need vitamin d and don't take in a supplement d-3 because it is from an animal source, be sure any supplements you take are not in gelatin capsules, you can get vitamin d from the sunlight anyway so get 10-20 minutes of light a day(preferably not direct 10-2pm sun) also you need iodine which most people get from salt you can also get from seaweed or anything from the ocean mostly. as far as baking you can buy a vegan egg substitute or use tofu,applesauce,banana or soda to fluff up your food. be sure to watch out for oils alot of things will have animal fats mixed in. check out vegan products, don't use white-out or lanolin. you can find a ton of things thru googling "vegan"|||I became a lacto ovo vegetarian 6 months ago. Everyone has their own reasons why they become a vegetarian or vegan. I started for health reasons. I was over weight and knowing that a vegetarian lifestyle is healthier I tried it out. I haven't missed or craved anything so far. Every time I think that I might be missing out by not eating meat, I think about where it comes from. There are so many alternatives to meat that I have made some pretty good meals, and have fooled my family with them. Anyway, that's my short story. GOOD LUCK!!!!!
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. ~Albert Einstein|||Proteins: Body's protein needs can be provided by either animal or plant sources. Mixed protein diet obtained from various plant sources is better than animal protein and is recommended in diabetes, renal diseases and liver diseases. Mixed protein diet from different plant sources has been the pattern of diet in India for all vegetarians.
Carbohydrates: Carbohydrates are mainly found in plant foods; like cereals, grains, fresh and dry fruits, legumes, vegetable, greens, nuts etc. plant carbohydrates include' large amounts of starches, sugar and fibers which are important for gut functions. The body is better suited to a high carbohydrate diet than a low carbohydrate diet. In fact 55% of the food intake should be carbohydrate. All animal products do not contain carbohydrate which is essential for body.
Fat: Plant fats differ from animal fats in two different ways 1) they are cholesterol free 2) they generally contain more polyunsaturated fat and less saturated fats. Plant fats usually have higher polyunsaturated fat value than animal fats.
A diet which is low in cholesterol and which contains fat of a high PIS value is associated with a lower incident of coronary health disease.
Vitamins and Minerals: plant foods are rich in many vitamins and minerals.
Vitamin D: Vitamin D is obtained by exposure of skin to sun light and this is not a problem in India.
Calcium: The vegetarians can meet their needs for calcium from dairy products. Riboflavin (Vitamin B2) Dark green vegetables are good sources of Riboflavin as are legumes and whole grain cereal.
Iron: The problem of iron deficiency is relatively common but vitamin C significantly enhances absorption of iron hence it is advisable for vegetarians to include with each meal a food high in vitamin C which as lime, citrus fruits or juices.
Zinc: Zinc is found in large number of plant foods.
Fiber: Fiber is found only in vegetarian food like whole grain cereals, legumes, greens, fruits, vegetable etc.
Thus in vegetarian foods all requirement of nutrition for body growth and maintenance is fulfilled. One can have a complete and balanced diet provided we take enough food which is as close to nature as possible in maintaining sturdy and disease free body. It is equally helpful in curing many diseases.
ADVANTAGES OF VEGETARIAN DIET:
More & more evidence is surfacing that directly links a prolonged non- vegetarian diet to diseases as cancers, heart diseases, diabetes, asthma just to name a few.
1. LOGEVITY: Vegetarian can expect to live 4-10 years longer then the non-vegetarians.
" Source: Seventh day Adventists study
2. LESS HEART DISEASE: Because of low fat, saturated fat and cholesterol content of the vegetarian diet the risk of heart disease is lowered. High blood cholesterol levels are associated with increased risk of heart disease.
3. LESS CANCER: Up to 40% of all cancers are diet related. Cancer death rates have been associated with obesity and high fat / low fiber diet. Vitamin A & C are thought to be protective against colon cancer. Low fat diets protect against prostrate and breast cancer. Indoles, lignans, isoflavones, protease inhibitors which are present in plant foods and shown to be potent anti carcinogens.
4. LESS BOWEL DISEASE: Diverticular disease and appendicitis occur more frequently with low fiber intake as in meat diet.
5. LEES OBESITY & LESS INCIDENCE OF DIABETES: It is easier to plan a low fat diet for a vegetarian then for a meat eater. The fiber in plant food dilutes the energy & provides a satisfying meal without all the calories. Diabetes over the age of 40 seems to be related to obesity.
CONLUSION:
When activists like M.K. Gandhi, sports personalities like Martina Novratilova & Carl Lewis, beauties like Brooke Shields & Kate Winslet, physists like Edison, Albert Einstein & A. P. J. Abdul Kalam, religious leaders & mystics like Jesus & Osho can be legendaries in there respective fields taking the advantage of being vegetarian, Is'nt it more prudent on our part to switch over to vegetarianism & enjoy better quality & longevity of life.
Hi! I like these creeds and was wondering and decided to post this up as a topic for Yahoo! Answers and thought to ask several questions for discussion.
There are many varying opinions and everyone is different and there is always another day and today, and keep it under pg-13 to tv16.|||I think veganism and abstinance are interesting. For some people, veganism and/ or abstinance is a way to deprive oneself of earthly pleasures.|||Veganism - Whatever floats your boat is cool, but not for me.
Immortality - Nah not for me either. I don't have a death wish but I don't want to be hanging around for, well, ever!
Friendship - Hard to come by these days, but worth holding on to once found.
Abstinence - Again, whatever floats your boat.
I'm not really sure what you mean by care, sorry. I guess I'm not very strong-opinionated huh? I think whatever you do in your boat is fine as long as it doesn't affect me in my boat. Do whatever makes ya happy without forcing it on others; live and let live! Fun question.
Have a nice day!
I've recently gone Vegan (within the past month) and my mother doesn't approve.
She believes that free-range animals, milk cows, laying hens, etc. are all treated humanely.
Personally, I think it's a lie.
Are they treated better?
Treated "humanely", as in nice living space, fresh grass, etc.??|||“Just because it says free-range does not mean that it is welfare-friendly.”
—Dr. Charles Olentine, editor of Egg Industry magazine, an industry trade journal
As concern grows over the way the meat, egg, and dairy industries treat the animals we eat, so does the number of animal products labeled "free-range." What does this mean? Do "free-range" chickens, pigs, turkeys, and cows receive humane treatment? Are they slaughtered in less violent ways?
"Free-Range" Eggs
There is no inspection system for companies that label their eggs "free-range."
The popular myth that "free-range" egg-laying hens enjoy fresh grass, bask in the sunlight, scratch the earth, sit on their nests, and engage in other natural habits is often just that: a myth. In many commercial "free-range" egg farms, hens are crowded inside windowless sheds with little more than a single, narrow exit leading to an enclosure, too small to accommodate all of the birds at once.
Both battery cage and "free-range" egg hatcheries kill all male chicks shortly after birth. Since male chicks cannot lay eggs and are different breeds than those chickens raised for meat, they are of no use to the egg industry. Standard killing methods, even among "free-range" producers, include grinding male chicks alive or throwing them into trash bags and leaving them to suffocate.
Whether kept in sheds or cages, laying hens-who can naturally live more than ten years-are considered "spent" when they are just one or two years old and their productivity wanes. Rather than being retired, "free range" hens are slaughtered to make room for another shed of birds.
"Free-Range" Broiler Chickens
Birds raised for meat ("broilers") may be considered "free-range" if they have U.S. Department of Agriculture-certified access to the outdoors. No other criteria-environmental quality, the size of the outdoor area, the number of birds confined in a single shed, or the indoor or outdoor space allotted per animal-are considered in applying the label. As with "free-range" laying hens, many "free-range" broilers live in a facility with only one small opening at the end of a large shed, permitting only a few birds to go outside at any given time.
Even Richard Lobb, spokesperson for the National Chicken Council admits, "Even in a free-range type of style of production, you're basically going to find most of them inside the grow out facility…."
According to The Washington Post Magazine, in the case of birds, the term "free-range" "doesn't really tell you anything about the [animal's]…quality of life, nor does it even assure that the animal actually goes outdoors."
Aside from the birds' actual living conditions, there is no prohibition in "free-range" poultry farming against using breeds of chickens and turkeys who have been selectively bred for fast growth and high feed conversion.
In the 1950s, it took 84 days to raise a five-pound chicken. Due to selective breeding and growth-promoting drugs, it now takes only 45 days. Such fast growth causes chickens to suffer from a number of chronic health problems, including leg disorders and heart disease. According to one study, 90 percent of broilers had detectable leg problems, while 26 percent suffered chronic pain as a result of bone disease. Two researchers in The Veterinary Record report, "We consider that birds might have been bred to grow so fast that they are on the verge of structural collapse."Industry journal Feedstuffs reports, "[B]roilers now grow so rapidly that the heart and lungs are not developed well enough to support the remainder of the body, resulting in congestive heart failure and tremendous death losses."
Whether labeled "free-range" or not, if the birds used by agribusiness are the standard "broiler" chicken of today, buying these products involves an enormous amount of animal suffering.
And, as with factory-farmed birds raised for their meat, "free-range" chickens and turkeys may undergo the same grueling and sometimes fatal transport to slaughterhouses when reaching market weight. Workers gather these birds up to four at a time, carrying them upside down by their legs before throwing them into crates on multi-tiered trucks without protection from the heat or cold and without access to food or water. "Free-range" birds end up at the same slaughterhouses as factory-farmed birds, where they are hung upside down, have their throats slit, and bleed to death, often while still fully conscious.
"Free-Range" Cows, Sheep, and Pigs
According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), "free-range" beef, pork, and other non-poultry products are loosely defined as coming from animals who ate grass and lived on a range. No other criteria-such as the size of the range or the amount of space given to each animal-are required before beef, lamb, and pork can be called "free-range." "Free-range" and "free-roaming" facilities are rarely inspected or verified to be in compliance with these two criteria. The USDA relies "upon producer testimonials to support the accuracy of these claims."
Even when "free-range" cows, sheep, and pigs are allowed to live outdoors, they are still subjected to excruciating mutilations without painkiller or analgesic, such as castration, branding, dehorning, tail-docking, and tooth-grinding. Once they are fattened to market weight, they are trucked to slaughterhouses. They are denied food, water, and adequate protection from extreme temperatures once in the vehicles, and many die during the trip. These cows, sheep, and pigs are still slaughtered in the same violent ways as factory-farmed animals: They are pushed through narrow chutes, hung upside down on conveyor belts, and have their throats slit; some are dismembered while still fully conscious.
Is a Truly Free-Range World Possible?
The U.S. animal agribusiness industry currently confines and slaughters more than ten billion land animals each year, the overwhelming majority of whom live intensively confined on factory farms where many cannot even turn around or fully stretch their limbs. Would it be possible to raise ten billion animals without intense confinement? Probably not.
If intense confinement operations were banned, it's highly unlikely producers could supply an entire nation of 280 million meat-, egg-, and dairy consumers with enough animal products to sustain the typical American diet. So, without even considering the ethical problems inherent in raising and slaughtering animals for food, from a practical perspective, completely humane farming and slaughtering methods aren't possible.
The Bottom Line
Granted, living in cramped conditions is better than living in even more cramped conditions. Laying hens who have 67 square inches of space per bird likely suffer less than those who have only 50, and giving even 10 out of 10,000 turkeys access to sunlight and the outdoors is better than denying all of them such basic needs. But, clearly, commercial "free-range" farming is not the answer to ending animal abuse.|||I grew up on a farm. We slaughtered our free range animals in the back yard. I think the way they do the job at a modern processing plant is far more humane, not to mention more sanitary. Its done under Federal inspection.
Frankly animals are generally treated far better by humans than they are treated by other animals. As they say nature is red in tooth and claw, humans are the only ones capable of humane treatment.
"there are insects of prey, reptiles of prey, birds of prey, fishes of prey, quadrupeds of prey. There is no instant of time when one creature is not being devoured by another."|||that all depends on what your beliefs are|||No they are not.
For more information check out http://www.vegan.com and download the two shows that Erik debates Gary Francione. Gary does a great job explaining all of this free-range nonsense that groups like HSUS are pushing.|||It depends. I get my organic free range eggs from someone local. The chickens are quite free and happy.|||i don't have any proof, but i think those animals are all happy, with lots of room to roam and play with each other, and no curfues, they can stay out late and watch the stars and they got air conditened rooms, and they got healthy food and a doctor on staff, and they're not forced to do anything
if a hen don'twant to lay eggs, then she can have the day off
if the cow don't want to be milked, she can go home early and play with her baby cow|||Not all, but possibly some are.
The smaller farms probably do a better job of raising their animals humanely, but you're not going to find their stuff at a Wal-Mart. You'll have better luck finding their products at a farmer's market, possibly at a store like Whole Foods, or through word of mouth.
Just reading the words "free range" doesn't automatically mean that the animals are happy. It pays to learn about the farm and farmer/s. If it's possible, actually visit the farm. See the living conditions of the animals.
(BTW, this is a good idea with fruit and vegetable farms, too!)|||You are right .... Many free range range animals do have better conditions then those in factory farms , there is less cruelty , but to what degree .. aside from very small farms which are practically non existent today ...there are still practices and treatment that is certainly not to benefit the animals and can be cruel ..physically and emotionally .. hens can be considered free range being kept in large rooms..never going outside, they are debeaked because having so many upsets their pecking order and the begin to peck each other causing injuries..so is this for their own good as someone has said here ? or is it because the conditions are so overcrowded that they can only keep a pecking order to about 80 kept in one area ... and then they get confused, frustrated,stressed , upset...they are still prisoners in a big cell.. Just to clarify..very small farms with the 80 or so chickens or more then 80 but kep under better conditions and seperated to groups..never have to be debeaked ..I wonder why since it is really better for them.to have part of the beaks cut off with a sharp blade ....OK .... I am getting sarcastic..sorry...... they are still considered property and not treated as you would your pet or even an animal in nature ... how do you feel about guard dogs...placed on chains , confined and never getting any Love , affection, attention to them..they just have a job to do ? Do you think they suffer at all? Feel bad? Not have the greatest lives ? ..just a comparison but guard dogs have it a lot better then the farm animals .... even free range|||Free range animals are given more space to roam and live in their natural surroundings, instead of penned up and de-beaked in slaughterhouses.
Of course, they are still killed for meat and produce. I'm not sure if you can consider that humane, according to your philosophy.
P.S. I eat meat.|||Every company is different and it's hard to tell what products are the most animal-friendly, although I'm betting that PETA's website can tell you where to find it.
I think dairy products should still be okay for vegans who care about animal rights. For example, if you DON'T milk a cow, that is bad for the cow...so it's more humane to milk it, and you might as well use the milk. Not exactly a groundbreaking reference but it's just an example.|||I am an animal science major and a vegetarian. I used to do it mostly for animal rights reasons, and now I do it mainly because I personally find eating meat gross. Any how, in both large production companies, and small free range companies, the animals aren't necessarily treated as terribly as PETA shows. All chickens are debeaked to prevent them from eating each other. And the term debeaked is misleading. In both large companies and in small free range farms the chickens have the very tip of their beaks cut off at 1 day of age and it really is for their own good. For the most part, any body who invests the time or money into raising animals, even if it is for meat, do not necessarily wish to cause the animals harm. They have some interest in the animals, but farmers need to make a living somehow. They do confine them and stuff many of them in one tiny space, in all animals industries, but thats a matter of saving money.
But free-range does not necessarily mean that the animal is pampered and is living a lovely life. The term free-range refers only to the fact that the birds are not in cages. Sometimes free-range birds are still stuffed into a confined space, many of them at that. If you will only consume animal products if the animals are treated humanely, I recommend seeking out products from small family owned farms. That is your best bet in ensuring the animals are free to roam around on land, and that they have the best possible treatment.
I've been vegetarian for 17 years, and vegan for the last 9 of those years. Woo. :)
鈾櫔Celllllebrate good times, c'mon! 鈾櫔|||i have been vegetarian for 2 1/2 years woot
Could have done it earlier but you know i got into the saying of those meat eater "u cant get essential nutrient from being vegan or vegetarian" and also i USED to love meat, until i watched PETA video and after that i took it seriously not to eat meat anymore.
I tried before but couldn't keep it for long because at school all u get is peanut butter & jelly sandwich and my mother had to work early in the morning so she used to be too tired, nothing i could have done.|||15 years.
Get ready to be flamed, because people don't like when vegetarians are proud. You can celebrate anything else, but people call you smug and self-righteous if you say you're happy about your vegetarianism. *shrug*|||i've been a vegetarian since 20 February 2008. So, about a year and a half. i quit cold-turkey (pun intended), if you were wondering.
:)|||I've been a vegetarian for about 4 months and a vegan for about 3. I haven't been at it too long but I'm glad that I'm Veg*n.|||I have only been Vegan for about 6 months, but now I cannot even imagine being any-other way.
GO VEGAN'S!!!|||Okay I have been vegetarian all my life.
and I've been vegan for about 2 and a half years but it feels like so much longer!|||Ummm about a year. :] a year july, I think.|||Vegetarian almost 16 years. Vegan 73 days.|||Vegetarian since August 2008|||I have been vegan for over 16 years- since April 1993.|||vegetarian 4 years vegan 9 months|||Never have, never will.|||vegan since about 1990 or before...|||vegan for over a year now and never looked back
woo hoo!!! go vegans!!!!!
hm. The term was invented by an English man, Donald Watson in 1944. It was a offshoot of extreme vegetarianism founded in England. They took the first three letters of vegetarian and the last two letters of the same word to make the word "vegan".
Donald Watson quote.."We started with vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion."
Thusly, the Vegan Society was created in 1944.|||i suppose it all started with those anti-meat animal lovers activist...i think Vegan means plants on latin...or maybe greek...
Veganism: the practice of eating neither meat nor other animal products, such as fish, milk and milk products, eggs, and honey|||Absolutely not. I'm not gonna go into a full-on rant because I'm not in the mood for my hands to break.
My life goal is to become a vegan :P|||YES!!!!!!!!|||Yes. It's truly impossible to live a happy life. I know, I tried.|||No. It helps the environment and saves animals.|||No, I think it's dumb/pointless to ridicule other's choices.|||I don't think it's dumb or pointless. I think is requires a high amount of discipline and dedication...something I do not posses.I admire vegans and vegiterians alike because I know I couldn't do it. I need beef, chicken, and fish...and I need the milk, eggs , and honey for my French toast..|||why do you care, its not your life. if a person wants to be vegan, then they should feel free to do so.|||kinda|||OMG YES. they are all stupid and not helping anything. I LOVE MEAT|||No.|||Nah. People should be able to do whatever they want to do. :)|||Yes because they still eat a living thing if they eat a plant. And meat is just too damn good to be able to stop a normal person from eating it.|||i honestly do...but i think some ways that they kill animals is kinda cruel but oh well. i like meat|||Nope, I'm a vegetarian and don't think that my efforts are pointless, so I feel the same way about veganism.|||No, I think it is good and very healthy.
You will live a good, active, and healthy lifestyle.
:)|||No, that's how they choose to live and style their life and habits.
It's a good stand they're making :)
There is no way I could survive it . . . lol|||Its not dumb. I am not a vegan but i can understand why people choose to live that way. The process at which people obtain the milk, eggs, ect gives very horrible conditions to the animals.|||Yes I do think it is dumb, and pointless.. not to mention unhealthy. You would lose that haughty vegan attitude real quick if there was nothing else to eat and you were starving.|||well I see the point of not eating animals, but not eating milk and honey just because they come from animals? That's very...weird.|||In my opinion plants are living so vegans are just murdering them to eat but hey everyone has their own point of view.|||yes|||no, i become one actually...|||it's too extreme.
as if life is not complicated enough.
Which is healthier?|||veganism.... too many added chemicals and hormones in all animal products|||According to USDA, vegetarianism is healthier, because all the nutrients you get from meat can be replaced by other foods, but there are certain nutrients in dairy products that are very difficult to get elsewhere.|||It depends on the type of products (organic, non-hormone treated products, and other chemicals)...
Now this is just my opinion, but I find veganism more restrictive on vitamins and minerals. BUT on the flipside, I see that people who are vegan typically eat more soy products which are good for you with the good proteins.
I think that from an overall nutritional perspective, vegetarianism is healthier. For example, you do not get the nutrients from milk products if you are vegan (if you consume organic, non-hormone treated end-products).
And on the point of taking supplements, you have to be careful of the source. For example, I have found that many calcium supplements do not list the source of the calcium or they come from animals. I ensure to buy ones that only state they are vegan or vegetarian.|||eating to much tofu can be very bad for you, some raw vegan on here put up a link to a site that explained all the bad things about tofu, I don't remember what it was but I wouldn't eat the stuff if I were you.|||I believe veganism is healthier by far. If you want your diet to be completely natural, vegan is the way to go. There is nothing natural about drinking the breastmilk of another species, especially when the animal has been pumped full of hormones and antibiotics and tortured for it.
And for everybody who said vegans are missing something nutritionally, that is not correct. There are tens of thousands of vegans in the US, have you ever heard of someone dying from a protein or B12 deficiency? No. And rest assured, with all the money and lobbying power the meat and dairy industries have, if it happened you would know about it. I am personally acquainted with at least 100 vegans who are VERY healthy and never take supplements.|||honestly.. they're both the same.
true veganism and vegetarianism will go for the fresh product of fruits, veggies.. legumes, tubers.. most of your plants... (even flowers and some spores)
those who claim vegetarians eat certain meats do not know what they are talking about.
and vegans who eat processed foods aren't vegan...
basically it's the same.. all those other terminologies are rather offshoots which lead to the basic fact that:
you eat any processed product and/or animal product or products from animal you're not vegetarian.
simple as that.
also... both if they eat a well balanced diet there's no such thing as a protein scarcity.|||depends on how you do it. i don't think one is better, though.|||uhm they both have there perks. :]
im a vegitarian and tried being a vegan, but i was constintly tired/sickish from lack of protein.
im not frowing upon veganism in anyway though if commeted properly can be very healthy!|||The vegan diet is free from animals hormones, antibiotics and concentrated pesticides that are found in dairy and eggs.
You have made the right choice in being vegan. The vegetarian diet was supposed to mean the same thing as vegan until people that ate animal products stole the word. A "lacto-ovo-vegetarian" diet is an incomplete protest against animal cruelty. Any type of diet can be healthy, but those that include animals products often result in heart disease and cancer even when done so in moderation.
A vegan diet requires thoughtful planning but so does every other diet.
There have been vegan Olympic gold medalists and a vegan woman can create an ENTIRELY NEW,HEALTHY HUMAN BEING INSIDE OF HER. Many of these children stay vegan and grow up to be perfectly healthy adults. So just keep yourself educated about what you eat and don't let anyone tell you that a veg diet is lacking anything essential.
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i really do want to become a vegan BUT i still wish to grow taller i desire to be 5'10" as i am only 5'8" but how will i ever grow any taller while eating in such a way also thinking let us say 10 years ahead of time when im like 25 yrs of age i will become pregnant soooo will my childs health be at all comparable towards the state in which it couldve been had i been committing to the traditional American diet?|||only if you become one of those annoying vegans that constantly chides people that eat meat.|||I'm a nurse and a vegan you will be fine. This is a healthy lifestyle, go for it. This will prolong your life not hinder it. Take care and all the best.|||Vegetarians and Vegans if done right Live longer than most people but you have to do it right .. lots of good info on recipes and all on the web and in your library . Good luck|||If you don't get all 8 of the "essential amino acids", your health will suffer. Meat contains all 8. Veggies contain a variety but you really need to be aware of this.|||You can eat vegan and take supplements also. When you get pregnant you will probably have to add foods you don't usually eat for the childs sake.Other than that I have heard that the vegan diet can be really good for you,but I would wait until you are done growing.It could be really unhealthy for you because you are still a child. You can eat really heathy though until you are old enough to become vegan.
Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Humanism, skepticism and freethought leap to mind.
Ideologies tend to be secular.
Fan clubs, exercise, diet, book clubs, social networks, school, music, art ...
Just about everything that isn't religion.|||One of the first to leap to mind is nudist colonies.
I am not sure what you mean by 'communities of like-minded people' - are you speaking of social clubs where people get together on a social level, or communities where people actually live together.
If the latter, then there are several eco-devoted places where people decided to live in a co-op style of community and produce all their needs and some wants using the talents of those within the community. This is the theory behind the communes of hippies in the 1960's.
Vegan is a lifestyle. Not a diet, religion, cult, etc. It is comparable to being gay, except that you choose to be Vegan.
I remember "coming out" to my parents and how upset they were. I also feel somewhat alienated from society for my lifestyle choice.|||Pft. No. It's lacking the mythology/narratives of religion, the symbols, and the holistic approach to spirituality/higher meaning. It also lacks the supernatural quality found in most other religions. There are no prophets and no sacred texts. It's no more a religion than abstinence.
A belief and set of behaviors about a single aspect of life do not a religion make.
You could argue that it is an aspect of secular philosophy, but both religion and philosophy generally both are far more reaching in their scope.|||Veganism is often more like a status, a moral badge, and a label people define themselves by. If it were a religion, there would have to be some sort of deity involved, right? Although, people who restrict their diets to being completely vegan are in a way acting like monks, or martyrs; subjecting themselves to strict rules, based on a moral belief(s).
It could be deemed more of a cult if not for the fact that some are not vegan by choice, and limit their dietary habits to maintain health when all other foods cause allergies or make them ill. Many raw food vegans are often prime examples of vegans who choose this dietary path because nothing else has worked to give them health and they use it as an alternative therapy for their health issues (cancer, lupus, etc.)|||From what I have gleaned in my interactions with people on all sides, I would say that more than a view people have taken it to that level. Really little different than some religious beliefs where people that don't follow the 'rules' and 'regulations' are indeed not as acceptable to the others unless they follow such. Those that don't follow said regulations and rules are not as acceptable as those that do.
This in no way reflects upon the whole, but does indeed reflect a number of people that like to use that term to describe themselves.|||Not really, there is no higher power with veganism. It could be compared to non-religious philosophies such as Confucianism, non-religious Taoism, and Legalism.|||Personally, I would classify it as a subculture. I think this is most because I get the feeling that a fair number of vegans see themselves as outsiders within society.|||In the sense that you strongly believe in something, therefore following rules you set yourself, and respect animals instead of a god, yes.|||i would say so, because your beliefs that killing animals is wrong is why your accting a certain way, so def. yes. It's not just a diet, there's beliefs that go along with it.|||haha!
no I don't think so.
There is nothing worshiped, no explanations for life, no reasons for life.
but it is an admiral quality in a person.|||Some vegans have that diet because of their religion, but I've never heard of it being the other way around.|||nah just a fad, they're worse than the twilight fans|||its not religion is just a diet...|||I sure hope not...there are way too many of those on earth right now...|||Perhaps a cult?|||loll no wayy|||No! I don't see anything being a higher power or god in veganism if you see that then you must really be hallucinating? Veganism is a diet for some a lifestyle just like eating meat is a diet and for some a lifestyle.
People want to eat earth bound food, yet they don't believe in the creator...? more like an oxy-moron
Or is it that the more ppl veer from the norm, the more they abandon God?|||It's a New Age FAD, nothing more.
The person without an avatar name responded with: "because people are becoming smarter and more compassionate, "
I suppose this person believes abortion (murdering the unborn) is ok, but eating steak is not compassionate. Brilliant . . .
Yehudi|||Two unrelated things. Atheism is a lack of beleif in god(s), while vegan is equating animals and humans. Yes people (Americans especially) need to eat more fruits and vegies than we currently do, and yes it does require more resources to raise food animals than it does for plants, but no a completely vegan diet is not good for people, as meats provide fats, minerals, and protiens that we need.
The organic craze is something else entirely though.|||Satan knows his time is short, and he is deceiving as many people as will abandon God. The bible says they are taken captive at his ( Satan's' ) will. Earth bound food is good for you though, as long as chemicals are not used, but organic.|||Because vegans have created a false system of "righteousness". They think that by the choices they have made, they are moral, and therefore righteous. False system of righteousness not founded in God's Word. It's one way to justify yourself as "good" in this evil world. People lean on their own set of rules for righteousness, and not God's--namely, Jesus Christ, and Him cruicified--He is our righteousness.
Ask any vegan, they will tell you they are making what they believe to be a "moral" choice. God doesn't say this is true. Atheists, are against God... so is false righteousness. It would make sense that eventually, on occasion, the two go hand in hand, by nature.|||I've been a non-believer for years, and I still love a nice juicy burger...you mind telling us where you came up with this nonsense "statistic" from???
Or is it simply the fashion that the more religious you are, the more you make stuff up to support your hare-brained opinions???|||IDK, that's just what works for me.
Actually, I'm not vegan, just vegetarian, and I'm agnostic, not atheist, but it's the same sort of idea, i guess.|||hahaha, I can want to eat food from the earth by "believing" in evolution too. God isn't the only explanation for things on earth, just the only one without evidence.|||You're asking this question from the assumption that God created the earth. Don't you get it, that atheists don't believe in God? Did you actually think this question out first or just rush right in?|||LOL.
If we're not BBQing babby, we're abandoning God through veganism.|||I guess they've put more research into their religious stance than their nutrition stance. There is no way a person can be a healthy vegan.|||So you have to believe in a creator to eat 'Earth bound (whatever that means) food'?
Overall your question really makes no sense...|||Veganism is morally clean, healthy lifestyle.|||people are deciding they don't believe in god.....and don't like meat? To each their own dude, it takes all critters.|||Where do you live, L.A.?|||Bite me, b*tch.|||Huh????|||If you don't know what the hell you are talking about, how am I supposed to?|||you're such a stereotype!|||Give me some stats. I haven't seen this correlation.
Im a vegetarian i do it for the rigth of animals and because its healthier.I was thinking abut vegans and does that have to do with the rigth of animals too ? if it does i want to become one.Or is it just to live a healthier lifestyle?|||There is nothing good about veganism and there are no benefits. There are a lot of dangers because you aren't eating any meat, fish, eggs or dairy, which are all the best sources of complete protein. Vegans often lack iron and vitamin B12. The American Heart Association recommends eating at least 2 servings of fish a week. Fish oil is very important for your health. I take fish oil supplements everyday. But vegans won't use them. They say you can get omega fatty acids from flax seeds but it's not the same as the omegas from fish. Vegans won't wear wool or eat honey. They say we are stealing honey from the bees. They don't believe in using any animal products, even if it doesn't hurt the animal. For example, if you own chickens and take good care of them, they still don't think you should eat the eggs. You want to know what their reason is? Because vegans don't use any animal products. What kind of reason is that? Either that or you are exploiting the chicken. ha ha Believe me, you don't want to get mixed up with them. Remember, you are posting this question in the vegetarian/vegan category so everyone will tell you to go vegan. They don't care about your health, they just want to save the animals.|||There are three main reasons to become vegan: for the animals, for one's health, and for the environment.
For the animals: If you don't already know animals suffer a tremendous amount. The are put in disgusting conditions that causes them pain, many deformities due to their circumstances, and eventually death. To get into the details of their suffering is definitely worth while and intense.
For one's health: Animal products (including meat, dairy, and eggs) are incredibly unhealthy for the body and have been linked to many diseases including Cancer. A plant-based diet is the absolute best diet to be on.
For the environment: The animal producing business is the larges contributor to greenhouse gases. They use incredible amount of finite resources (as well as water-which some consider finite) to raise and then kill these innocent animals. The largest positive impact we can make on the environment is to stop eating animals.
The benefits are endless. The biggest one is you feel better. One, the guilt is gone, as far as being a part of the animals' suffering. Also healthfully you feel better. Many vegans report feeling happier. I certainly do. In fact, it is hard to get me down and I used to be a very negative person. It also shed's light on many other things in life. It promotes education in more ways than one and promotes activism. Activism is normally seen as a bad word but is really empowering and very fulfilling. I hope this help.
Here are some resources that moved me and I HIGHLY recommend:
1) A book called: The Food Revolution by John Robbins (many people contribute their conversion to veganism this book or this man).
2) The China Study: T. Colin Campbell
3) A website called compassionatecooks.com. It was the first time I was introduced to podcasts. She does amazing very informative podcasts. Here is a link to her podcasts: http://feeds.feedburner.com/VegetarianFoodForThought
Hope these help and best of luck! You would make a HUGE difference if you choose to take this path!|||The Hunger Argument
Number of people worldwide who will die as a result of malnutrition this year: 20 million
Number of people who could be adequately fed using land freed if Americans reduced their intake of meat by 10%: 100 million
Percentage of corn grown in the U.S. eaten by people: 20
Percentage of corn grown in the U.S. eaten by livestock: 80
Percentage of oats grown in the U.S. eaten by livestock: 95
Percentage of protein wasted by cycling grain through livestock: 90
How frequently a child dies as a result of malnutrition: every 2.3 seconds
Pounds of potatoes that can be grown on an acre: 40,000
Pounds of beef produced on an acre: 250
Percentage of U.S. farmland devoted to beef production: 56
Pounds of grain and soybeans needed to produce a pound of edible flesh from feedlot beef: 16
The Environmental Argument
Cause of global warming: greenhouse effect
Primary cause of greenhouse effect: carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels
Fossil fuels needed to produce meat-centered diet vs. a meat-free diet: 3 times more
Percentage of U.S. topsoil lost to date: 75
Percentage of U.S. topsoil loss directly related to livestock raising: 85
Number of acres of U.S. forest cleared for cropland to produce meat-centered diet: 260 million
Amount of meat imported to U.S. annually from Central and South America: 300,000,000 pounds
Percentage of Central American children under the age of five who are undernourished: 75
Area of tropical rainforest consumed in every quarter-pound of rainforest beef: 55 square feet
Current rate of species extinction due to destruction of tropical rainforests for meat grazing and other uses: 1,000 per year
The Cancer Argument
Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat meat daily compared to less than once a week: 3.8 times
For women who eat eggs daily compared to once a week: 2.8 times
For women who eat butter and cheese 2-4 times a week: 3.25 times
Increased risk of fatal ovarian cancer for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week vs. less than once a week: 3 times
Increased risk of fatal prostate cancer for men who consume meat, cheese, eggs and milk daily vs. sparingly or not at all: 3.6 times.
The Cholesterol Argument
Number of U.S. medical schools: 125
Number requiring a course in nutrition: 30
Nutrition training received by average U.S. physician during four years in medical school: 2.5 hours
Most common cause of death in the U.S.: heart attack
How frequently a heart attack kills in the U.S.: every 45 seconds
Average U.S. man's risk of death from heart attack: 50 percent
Risk of average U.S. man who eats no meat: 15 percent
Risk of average U.S. man who eats no meat, dairy or eggs: 4 percent
Amount you reduce risk of heart attack if you reduce consumption of meat, dairy and eggs by 10 percent: 9 percent
Amount you reduce risk of heart attack if you reduce consumption by 50 percent: 45 percent
Amount you reduce risk if you eliminate meat, dairy and eggs from your diet: 90 percent
Average cholesterol level of people eating meat-centered-diet: 210 mg/dl
Chance of dying from heart disease if you are male and your blood cholesterol level is 210 mg/dl: greater than 50 percent
The Natural Resources Argument
User of more than half of all water used for all purposes in the U.S.: livestock production
Amount of water used in production of the average cow: sufficient to float a destroyer
Gallons of water needed to produce a pound of wheat: 25
Gallons of water needed to produce a pound of California beef: 5,000
Years the world's known oil reserves would last if every human ate a meat-centered diet: 13
Years they would last if human beings no longer ate meat: 260
Calories of fossil fuel expended to get 1 calorie of protein from beef: 78
To get 1 calorie of protein from soybeans: 2
Percentage of all raw materials (base products of farming, forestry and mining, including fossil fuels) consumed by U.S. that is devoted to the production of livestock: 33
Percentage of all raw materials consumed by the U.S. needed to produce a complete vegetarian diet: 2
The Antibiotic Argument
Percentage of U.S. antibiotics fed to livestock: 55
Percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin in 1960: 13
Percentage resistant in 1988: 91
Response of European Economic Community to routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock: ban
Response of U.S. meat and pharmaceutical industries to routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock: full and complete support
The Pesticide Argument
Common belief: U.S. Department of Agriculture protects our health through meat inspection
Reality: fewer than 1 out of every 250,000 slaughtered animals is tested for toxic chemical residues
Percentage of U.S. mother's milk containing significant levels of DDT: 99
Percentage of U.S. vegetarian mother's milk containing significant levels of DDT: 8
Contamination of breast milk, due to chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides
Also, please go check out www.veganthis.org
It will change your life.|||As far as animal rights go it's to protect animals. Dairy cattle and laying hens lives are not significantly better than livestock used for meat. Vegans are against the exploitation of animals with no exceptions. Vegans also don't wear leather anything else made from animal products.Its more than a diet. Watch the movie Earthlings|||It does not really make sense to be vegetarian for animal rights (unless you are the traditional vegetarian who eats only plant based foods) a typical vegetarian today will consume eggs, milk, and also buy products that contain animal by products or were tested on animals, even leather wool, silk etc..... that is not in any way consistent with animal rights
read this they word it so much better than I can
http://veganfreak.com/opinion/why-vegeta鈥?/a>|||"Aubrey" and "susie" said it way better then anyone else every will, Green houses gas is also produced by the cows themselves because there are a lot of them, methane which is more concentrated then carbon dioxide(this is fact which was told by many independent scientists)
More food is used to feed the cows,pigs as per person
More fuel is used from raising to the delivery of the meat.
The "GOOD AND SMART" doctors recommend people to eat 3-5 serving of fruits and vegetables for a good reason(why don't they recommend meat?/ because it causes may health problems)
And as for the fish oil or eating fish, it make be healthy but due to increase in pollution the fish are more and more toxic and ARE BELIEVED to cause some brain damage/neurological damage
AND humans are OVER FISHING WHICH IS LEADING OTHER FISHES SUCH AS SHARKS, WHALES TO FIND NEW GROUNDS TO FIND FOOD WHICH IS LEADING THEM TO DANGER OF GOING EXTINCT SINCE THEY REPRODUCE VERY SLOWLY.
DO THE FREAKIN RESEARCH THEN SAY SOMETHING.
Eat what you want. The sun will still super nova in about 4.5 billion years.|||No, vegan is a contrived modern diet. No traditional culture was vegan. All cultures eat some sort of animal product, even the Jains ate dairy.
What is wrong with milk and eggs from a small farmer who treats his animals well and lets them run around free?
Industrial animal farms are horrible, and I am against them and they do harm on a number of levels. But animals that are farmed ecologically are good for the environment. Manure is the best fertilizer. Grazing animals are very good for natural grasslands.|||Well in short, within 100-200 years i would imagine our supply of meat will have dwindled and we would have no choice but to eat only vegan. However, we wouldnt be here if it wasnt for our ability to process meats. cheers.|||http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lawh6w鈥?/a>|||The God Yahweh says hell no. Please read His clean and unclean food laws in Leviticus chapter 11.|||I doubt it.
It is only because humans ate meat that we evolved with larger brains|||No.
There will be a shortage of vegetables.|||unlikely.|||i guess but idk about humans
Have you noticed that your hair grows faster or slower being vegan? Also, why do I hear so much about vegans losing hair? Is that common? I would think it should be fine if you take a multivitamin, right?|||My wife, my kids, and I are all vegan, and all of us have healthy hair, skin, and nails.
In fact, my father is going bald, and while I'm likely to be loosing my hair (my mother's father was bald, as was my father's father), it is much fuller than it was when my father was my age. My skin was horrible when I ate meat, but in the last 15+yrs of being vegan, my skin and nails have been really great.
Same for my wife. Her hair is thicker and nicer than all of her non-vegan friends, ever since she started in college.
We just make sure to eat enough fats and enough calories and it all evens out. We use olive oil liberally, and eat plenty of grains and legumes and veggies and fruit in LARGE portions and we always end up doing well physically. It's not just our nails and skin and hair. We all get regular blood tests and they always come up stellar (even for the kids who love pasta).|||Well, I'm male, so over the last twenty years the hair on the front of my head has gotten thinner, but other places have gotten hairier. Is this from veganism or just getting older? I know plenty of bald people, and they are not vegan or vegetarian. Seems to have little to do with it. What does affect hair growth negatively (on the head at least) is testosterone, and other hormones, apparently. Even seen an old lady with a moustache and thin hair on her head? I have. The lady at the cash register today looked like that, and that's probably because her estrogen levels have gone down and testosterone gone up relative to each other. They say that B vitamins affect hair growth, but I think not -- not unless you have a B vit deficiency, I guess. But I'll tell you, my thinning hair all grew back one time. That was the time I took a one year vacation. I was so totally relaxed and stress free...
Not getting enough nutrients may affect hair on one's head, but hey, there have been people who were in certain life situations (war, prison, poverty...) where they ate so little and so poorly that they barely survived, yet they did not become permanently bald.
Anyway, I have more questions than answers myself.|||Hey Vegan Girl
I have been vegetarian for about 20 years. I tried to do the vegan thing many years ago and it didn't work for me. So, I went back to semi-vegetarian. I had to go back to eating fish because my hair was thinning out, my nails were getting brittle and my skin was looking sallow. I used to eat beans, brown rice, tofu, vegetables. I tried to eliminate all dairy products and other animal by-products but now I do eat eggs. Every now and then I eat icecream but I keep to a bare minimum. I eat seitan, vegetable and soy protein meatless substitutes. Since I did go back to eating fish, the health of my hair, nails and skin has improved. It is important to get that protein and more important to have a balance meal with all it is that you need to sustain good health. I am and look healthy and I don't have any regrets removing meat from my diet. I don't eat fish as often as I would like but I try to make sure I get it at least once or twice a week. Sometimes I don't eat fish but once a month usually because I am not able go where I need to in order to purchase it.|||its because they don't get protein
my uncle survived off roman noodles in college and went bald because he didnt get enough protein from the noodles
i am already veggie and i have a few
just need some more for a school project any would be appreciated
:)
and quotes or stuff you can add id be grateful for too thx :] xxx|||A well-planned vegetarian diet provides a decreased risk for heart disease, certain types of cancers, and type II diabetes. Those who follow a vegetarian diet are less likely to be obese. Look up the Seventh Day Adventist studies online because they provide good information on health benefits of vegetarianism.
"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of "real food for real people" you'd better live real close to a real good hospital."
-Dr. Neal Barnard, MD
"The report reviews scientific findings on trans-fats and finds that eating any at all raises levels of low-density lipoprotein - the so-called bad cholesterol. Therefore, if a limit were to be set, it should be zero. Rimm said the panel, made up of nutritionists, biochemists, pediatricians and others, decided not to do that. "We can麓t tell people to stop eating all meat and all dairy products," he said. "Well, we could tell people to become vegetarians," he added. "If we were truly basing this only on science, we would, but it is a bit extreme."
-A Reuter's press release|||Take a look at this (ignore the outdated numbers):
http://inslide.com/respect/modules.php?n鈥?/a>
Here are some quotes:
http://www.quotegarden.com/vegetarianism鈥?/a>
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. ~Albert Einstein|||This website, run by the Mayo Clinic, has a copy of the vegetarian food pyramid on it. Use it when planing your meals.
Vegetarian diet: How to get the best nutrition
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vegetar鈥?/a>
The Protein Myth
Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vsk/p鈥?/a>
Fast food is bad for you, no question. But when everybody is going, it's easier to go along with it them than do something. Is there anything a vegan can eat at:
McDonalds
Whataburger
Taco Bell
Taco Bueno
Panda Express
Wendy's
Etc....|||McDonalds:
NO
Whataburger:
NO
Taco Bell (eat at your own risk):
Bean Burrito, minus cheese
Bean Tostada, minus cheese
Mexican Rice, minus cheese
Seven Layer Burrito, minus sour cream & cheese
Pintos, minus cheese
The soft burritos are not vegan.
Taco Bueno:
NO
Panda Express:
NO
Wendy's:
French fries
Go to Subway!
http://www.veganeatingout.com/subway.htm鈥?/a>|||Ok, I REALLY hate generalizations like this.
First off, fast food is NOT ALWAYS bad for you. A guy in the news lost 40+ lbs eating at mcdonalds, that's right.. LOST WEIGHT AT MCDONALDS! How? He ate salads, the parfaits and here's the most important part, exercised to burn the calories he took in. (This is why most ppl deem fast food evil, because it is so calorie dense you need to exercise a lot more to burn the calories.)
Now for our question: Read the nutritional labels, most often they will tell the nutritional content and a list of ingredients. That or browse around the main websites for the companies. I'm sure that other vegan groups have already done some research and is likely online, remember www.google.com is your friend for this stuff. |||Pickin's are pretty slim. I know it's not fun to sit and not eat -- and everyone seems to have a comment. Here are a couple websites that will I hope will help you.
http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/Ot鈥?/a>
http://www.vegcooking.com/VegFastFood.as鈥?/a>
|||If you are in the states none of the sodas have real sugar in them so they are vegan. |||taco bell-bean burrito, bean taco, seven layer nachos (ask for no cheese or sour cream.
wendys--fries
|||french fries and mushed potatoes.
i have found it extremely easy|||I have found it extremely easy as well! I cut all animal products out of my diet cold turkey, too, all at once. Being and staying vegan is not as difficult as most people would think. Almost everything I eat is fresh vegetables, fruits, bread, pasta/noodles, rice, beans and nuts. I've gotten reacquainted with my kitchen and learned to cook better than I used to. Glad to hear it was easy for you too and congratulations!|||I didn't find it hard, but I ran into medical trouble down the road as I had cut a huge staple from my diet (eggs) and had no idea what to replace it with--So I replaced it with bread and fake foods. Once I started eating properly, I had no issues eating Vegan.
just curious|||Well, i can't guarantee that your skin will be "flawless", but if your skin has the potential to be flawless, raw veganism is your best shot. You will feel better than you've ever felt before and you will look amazing as well.|||YES.
As long as you drink enough water, make green juice and/or smoothies, eat plenty plenty plenty of fruits and veg, your skin will be radiant and smooth! your eyes will become whiter and you'll have LOADS of energy and all your health problems will melt away|||no. it probably CAN if youve been eating mostly greasy foods pre-veganism, but acne depends mostly on stress levels and genetics. there are better reasons to go vegan: http://wayfaringvegans.weebly.com/|||^^^ Oreo's fries and sugar aren't raw veganism... derr!|||smooth as a pearl
Would bacon help?|||Americanism is the only answer|||bacon's good but to establish a really good relationship with meat, you gotta try a philly cheesesteak. and not one of those with the liquid cheese crap, one with sliced american, fried onions and sliced sweet peppers.|||A pork fat intravenous drip with prime rib roast stomach injections.|||Nah a big mac would do the trick. :)|||Yawn|||A sausage to the face.|||meat
Most girls finish puberty and get over their eating disorders (anorexia, bulimia, vegetarianism).
Others realize how ridiculous it is.|||I am still vegan but the only reasons I would ever go back would be either a really intense food craving that I gave in to or for health reasons. I won't give in to cravings now because I know if I gave in once I wouldn't continue on the same path I'm on now.
I would never eat meat as a craving though.. the whole idea of it has just become sickening to me now as I haven't had it in so long. It would have to strictly be for health reasons at that point. I would at least make an attempt to change my diet very slightly to provide the nutrients that I needed before going back to either vegetarian or giving it all up..|||I had to I was living in a remote area and we could not get fresh fruit or vege's. Being VEGAN meant that I ended up staving. (and I gained heaps of weight!!!) ...years later I have returned to a more populated area and discovered Quorn (micro-protein) I am now back to being Vegetarian because of the cruelty involved in turning animals into food (I hate it!!!)
I love all animals .... just not for DINNER!|||Most girls finish puberty, give up their hopes and dreams, and fall victim to the meat industry marketing machine.
Others go back to eating meat because they fail to see how ridiculous it is to eat meat.
Cheers!|||1. their weak
2. vegetarianism was a trend and it looked 'cool' at the time
3. their hypocrites.|||i'm not exactly sure why i was a vegetarian but i really missed chicken so i thought I'll just eat chicken :)|||It wasn't good for my body, and one of the sports i was in i needed all the nutrition i could get|||Because I reeaaallly wanted steak.
I have RA and am cutting meat out of my diet. I was wondering if any vegans/vegetarians here that have RA have fewer flare-ups and less inflammation?|||Yes! I am including a couple websites you should read. Don't just take my word for it.
Good luck. (By the way, being vegan helped my dog's arthritis, too!)
http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/star06_鈥?/a>
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11600鈥?/a>
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL18870鈥?/a>
http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/phyllis鈥?/a>
Are the effects of veganism actually true and should I pursue it?|||I personally have never known any truly healthy vegans.|||yes....more meat for me|||give it a try but take every thing with a grain of salt|||they are all worthless, dont become one, it will be the biggest mistake of your live, DONT DO IT|||That depends entirely how you personally feel on the subject of animal rights. Your own opinion is the only one that can answer this question for you.|||yes! Well, it depends. You should exercise no matter what. But. Just cause you are vegan doesn'tm mean french fries and such are good. Pursue the true vegan diet by eating healthy greens and lots of water. Eat potatoes for starch and beans for protein! Search for health tips in protein and remember take supplyments of b12. Good Luck!|||Depends, some people simply have to eat meat to get the nutrients they need. Some people have to eat meat in order to get the energy required to live an active lifestyle when others find that meat actully decrease their energy level. Its what will work for you best. Try it and see how it goes.|||You know, it depends. It can be healthy for some people. I'm a vegetarian except I eat fish, and I decided to not go vegan because I've seen how good things like cheese and yogurt are for you. I feel like no one should have to 'feel' like they CANT eat something because it's not part of their 'diet'. So just keep that in mind. My dad is a doctor for old people, he said he always asks his 90 year old plus patients how they stay healthy. He said most of them say something about going to Thrifty's and buying an ice cream cone. Happiness just may be the best diet of all--to a limit. So if eating yogurt and icecream makes you happy, so long as you aren't overweight and you're exercising, perhaps veganism isn't best for you : ) . Personal choice! Good luck :)|||I and my two children are vegan. I think my kids are healthier than most of their friends. We do get the occasional cold but we never get stomach bugs etc.
I make sure that our diet is balanced we get plenty of the right vitamins through our food and are fitter and thinner than most of our friends.
I chose the vegan diet partly because of how healthy it is. You don't eat all that saturated fat and your body doesn't have to work so hard to digest your food. I certainly feel healthier on a vegan diet and have a lot more energy than I did when I ate meat.|||It depends upon the need of a person. and its upto you what food diet you need... Chidren need not to be vegan becuase they need more protein for their growth which almost taken from meat and fish.|||Why don't you go ahead and pursue it? Try it on your body for yourself. I actually went very slowly, with first cutting out the red meat, then pork, then chicken (never had to give up fish because I don't like to eat it), and felt really good. Then I gave up dairy and felt a whole lot better. I think I may have had dairy allergies and didn't really know it till I went off of dairy for a month. I finally went off eggs to become vegan all the way, and after two years I feel great. But for me it may have been easy because I am a bread and vegetable type person. A good crusy bread, with vegan butter, and a glass of juice is pretty much all I need to live on. Yeah, I eat alot of vegetables to stay really healthy too. Become a scientist, and experiment with veganism with yourself as the subject.|||If a vegan diet is very carefully planned, and that requires either fortified foods or supplements, it can be AS healthy as a good meat eating diet. I think there are a couple of benefits, but they come from eating a wide range of fruit and veg and being health conscious as vegans have to be, not omitting meat, and thus those benefits can be go without actually going veggie. Needless to say a uncarefully planned vegetarian, or especially vegan, diet can lack many essential nutrients and be very bad for your health.
There are many benefits to a diet containing meat. Many vegetarians claim that meat is unhealthy. This is a blatant fallacy.
It is well established that eating meat improves the quality of nutrition, strengthens the immune system, promotes normal growth and development, is beneficial for day-to-day health, energy and well-being, and helps ensure optimal learning and academic performance.
A long term study found that children who eat more meat are less likely to have deficiencies than those who eat little or no meat. Kids who don鈥檛 eat meat 鈥?and especially if they restrict other foods, as many girls are doing 鈥?are more likely to feel tired, apathetic, unable to concentrate, are sick more often, more frequently depressed, and are the most likely to be malnourished and have stunted growth. Meat and other animal-source foods are the building blocks of healthy growth that have made America鈥檚 and Europe's youngsters among the tallest, strongest and healthiest in the world.
Meat is an important source of quality nutrients, heme iron, protein, zinc and B-complex vitamins. It provides high-quality protein important for kids鈥?healthy growth and development.
The iron in meat (heme iron) is of high quality and well absorbed by the body, unlike nonheme iron from plants which is not well absorbed. More than 90 percent of iron consumed may be wasted when taken without some heme iron from animal sources. Substances found to inhibit nonheme iron absorption include phytates in cereals, nuts and legumes, and polyphenolics in vegetables. Symptoms of iron deficiency include fatigue, headache, irritability and decreased work performance. For young children, it can lead to impairment in general intelligence, language, motor performance and school readiness. Girls especially need iron after puberty due to blood losses, or if pregnant. Yet studies show 75 percent of teenage girls get less iron than recommended.
Meat, poultry and eggs are also good sources of absorbable zinc, a trace mineral vital for strengthening the immune system and normal growth. Deficiencies link to decreased attention, poorer problem solving and short-term memory, weakened immune system, and the inability to fight infection. While nuts and legumes contain zinc, plant fibre contains phytates that bind it into a nonabsorbable compound.
Found almost exclusively in animal products, Vitamin B12 is necessary for forming new cells. A deficiency can cause anaemia and permanent nerve damage and paralysis. The Vitimin B12 in plants isn't even bioavailable, meaning our body can't use it.
Why not buy food supplements to replace missing vitamins and minerals? Some people believe they can fill those gaps with pills, but they may be fooling themselves. Research consistently shows that real foods in a balanced diet are far superior to trying to make up deficiencies with supplements.
Lets not forget either that protein, while it is found in plants, is better quality in animal products.
Some people claim that meat is unhealthy because it contains saturated fat. So does margarine and olive oil, and they're vegan suitable (in fact the hydrogenated fats in Marge can be very bad, but that's another story). Besides, any excess calories in your diet, any excess sugar, starch or carbohydrates are stored in your body for later use. This is done by turning them into saturated fats.
Cholesterol too. Your body on average creates four to five times more cholesterol than the average person consumes, and compensates by creating more when less is consumed. Cholesterol isn't evil, it is essential; it makes up the waterproof linings of all our cells and without it we would die. Too much can be bad, but as with saturated fats there are more healthy ways of disposing of it, like regular exercise. Anyway, it isn't so much how much cholesterol you eat, but how well yur body handles it. A person who eats loads of dietary cholesterol and leads an unhealthy lifestyle can still have low cholesterol, and vice versa. Most people's bodies are able to take a large amount of cholesterol without getting atherosclerosis. For this reason that eating meat gives you heart disease is very misleading, and for the most part untrue. Of course, if you do have a problem eating loads isn't a good idea, but for most people there is nothing at all to worry about.
Yes, there are things in meat that there is some evidence can cause cancer in some people, but there are as many in plants too. Soy especially has some very potent carcinogens. Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.
Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women. Also they are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.
Soy is bad for numerous other reasons, but that isn't the point, I'm just using it as a quick example relating to cancer not being exclusive to some animal products. The evidence that claims meat does cause cancer is patchy anyway.
Some people also claim that we aren't designed by evolution, to eat meat. They claim that our digestive system is quite long and that we produce amylase, a starch splitting catabolic enzyme, akin to herbivores and unlike carnivores. Apparently this clearly shows that we were designed to eat plants. Such people should go and look up 'omnivore' in a dictionary. They have also been known to cite other reasons we are like herbivores and unlike carnivores: that we suck water instead of lapping it, and that we perspire through our skin, such things have nothing at all to do with whether or not we were designed to eat meat, and nothing to do with how our body handles food. I might as well say that because we, like most carnivores and unlike most herbivores, have eyes that face forwards, we must be carnivorous. Of course, that's not true for precisely the same reason.
The fact is Humans are omnivores, with the ability to eat nearly everything. By preference, prehistoric people ate a high-protein, high-mineral diet based on meat and animal sources, whenever available. Their foods came mainly from three of the five food groups: meat, vegetables and fruits. As a result, big game mammoth hunters were tall and strong with massive bones. They grew six inches taller than their farming descendants in Europe, who ate mostly plant foods, and only in recent times regained most of this height upon again eating more meat, eggs and dairy foods. We are adapted to eat meat, and it is just as natural as eating plants.
Some also claim that the digestion of meat releases harmful byproducts into our system. This is true, however such are our adaptations to eating meat that our bodies are quite able to dispose of said products without any adverse effects.
So, in summary: it isn't healthier to avoid meat. You can be healthy without meat, but likely not as healthy as if you did, assuming you kept things like the wide range of fruit and veg that a veggie diet usually entails. Too much meat can be bad, but normal amounts are no problem at all. Any health benefits that come from a veggie diet come from a wide range of fruit and veg, and being health conscious, as veggies often are; that doesn't require you to not eat meat."
I don't think a vegan diet benefits anyone in any way better than a better meat eating diet could at all. If you have no ethical qualms, it's quite pointless. PETA will tell you otherwise, but they have very strong ethical opinions, and mould their 'evidence' around it. There is, for example, some evidence that vegans live longer and are at less risk from cancer and heart disease; however those studies show only a very marginal and insignificant difference and none of those studies have yet managed to identify meat as the only variable. Veggies are less likely to smoke, drink or eat junk food, and eat a wider range of fruit and veg, making the test results inaccurate and unreliable.
Been vegetarian for years.
Tried Veganism for nine months....failed.....going to try again....|||I was a Vegan for 1 year and failed. I think I'm going to try it again in the future.|||I'm not a big meat eater but our meals are largely dictated by husband's likes and dislikes - too much phaff to prepare two different menus.
I eat veggie when with a vegan friend, but love milk and cheese products too much to change to veganism; never yet found a soya substitute for cheese which isn't totally disgusting.|||Tried vegetarianism for a year but it was a long time ago before there was the choice there is today, I still eat a lot of prepared foods aimed at vegetarians, Tesco do some great vegeburgers.|||Thats great your a vegetarian!
I tried to be a vegetarian and i lasted around 9 months. Even though I am not now i just dont find meat that appetizing. I like it once in a while though|||Tried vegetarianism for a few months but got really sick. :\
One day hopefully I'll try again and succeed. :)|||I don't see the point of it, non-vegans get blamed for killing live animals that didn't deserve to die. But you're killing living plants that didn't deserve to die.|||have been a veggie for a relatively short time but already have restricted diet so veganism isn't an option for health reasons|||Yup, been a vegetarian since February. Tried veganism for like two days, then I saw a Haagen Daaz commercial...need I say more?|||I would be a vegetarian if i had a bit more discipline.. I could never be a vegan because I like dairy too much...|||Yeah, the former. Lasted two years. Not bad actually.|||Veganism - Never.
i cant live without Tea / Coffee !|||I've gone one better I tried a vegan I liked her alot, tasted like strawberries|||I have not. I see no purpose in it.|||I tried vegetarianism.... that lasted for about an hour or two.|||I need meet everyday|||About 5 minutes, I missed being normal and went and had some bacon|||Can't & Won't.|||Yea !
I love my veggies right next to my steak,chops, chicken or fish !|||About 1/3 of my plate is vegan. I think that is enough.|||no im not retarded and i dont feel sorry for animals that die|||Hell no! I love meat too much
Would Jesus have chosen veganism as a chosen way of life?
And/or would he encourage it?|||You mean if he ever existed?
What would Mythras or Horus do?
Probably the same thinng as "Jesus".
I'll base my decisions on reality.
Meg: Get a life, please. =)|||i think you can be kosher and vegan at the same time, but he did hang out with a lot of fishermen so i would say he probably wouldn't have done it. but i would say that as long as you weren't hurting anyone he probably would have been ok with it. he did hang out with hookers and tax collectors, so i don't think a vegan would have phased him.|||I think that Jesus would say that veganism is just one form of eating and that all forms in moderation are good.|||First, no, Jesus was not a vegetarian. The Bible records Jesus eating fish (Luke 24:42-43) and lamb (Luke 22:8-15). Jesus miraculously fed the crowds fish and bread, a strange thing for Him to do if He was a vegetarian (Matthew 14:17-21). In a vision to the Apostle Peter Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals (Acts 10:10-15). After the Flood in Noah's time, God gave humanity permission to eat meat (Genesis 9:2-3). God has never taken this permission back.
According to the Bible, in the beginning, humans and animals were vegetarian. After the fall of man, God permitted the eating of meat. The first animal sacrifice was done to provide clothing for Adam and Eve who were newly aware and ashamed of their nakedness. Some Christians believe that the Bible explains that, in the future, humans and animals will return to vegetarianism.
With all that said, there is nothing wrong with being a vegetarian. The Bible does not command us to eat meat. There is nothing wrong with eating meat. There is nothing wrong with abstaining from eating meat. What the Bible tells us is that we should not force our convictions on this issue onto other people. Romans 14:2-3 tells us, "One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him."
The New Testament of the Bible says that a person's dietary choice is of small consequence and should not be a point of confrontation. Therefore, some modern Christians consider vegetarianism as a perfectly acceptable personal choice that has many of the same implications as fasting.
Sorry this is so long but I hope it answered your question.|||sagatale said everything that I would have!|||No, he was a Jew and was bought up as a Jew with there customs. He celebrated the passover with this followers, for the passover meal there is some meat, then theres the story of feeding the 5000 with fish and loaves. But if you going to question Jesus' life go read the bible.|||Why would he encourage it when animals were sacrificed for his father?|||I don't think so, I mean he did follow a semi vegetarian diet as an Esscene Jew but I think he would understand that some of those animals were good for nourishment, clothing, and medicines. If anything he would've encouraged a very well balanced diet along with animal products. And of course he would've suggested a gentle, humane way of killing animals.|||I think if Jesus lived in a plentiful society where there were fresh fruits and vegetables readily available he would be vegan. He encourages loving all living things and if it were not necessary to kill to sustain human life he would.|||"I think that Jesus would say that veganism is just one form of eating and that all forms in moderation are good." ---I agree with "Tiger 1943" .... and I like her emphasis on moderation.
Jesus was NOT an Essene . . . no self-respecting member of the Essene sect would be caught dead traipsing all over Palestine, or especially what they regarded as a "den of iniquity" . . . Jerusalem.
KRISTER: Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure since reference to him is made in extra-biblical sources . . . Tacitus and Josephus to name two. You need to intelligently separate what are historical FACTS from your rant against religious claims . . . religious claims are not historical FACTS. Your answer is silly.
.|||Well.. first off.. he served fish to others.. So from what we can tell he had no problem with consuming clean meats. BUT it should be noted that in his day there was no pollution in the water, the animals were raised humanely, and fed natural grass, etc.. not ground up cows. The farming practices were VERY different, making the consumption of meat MUCH healthier and MUCH more humane than it is today.
So.. whether he'd eat meat if he were here on earth now is debateable.. I think he would encourage people to treat animals humanely..and personally I believe he'd be pretty much vegan.. but that's just MO
BUT I believe he would be more concerned with suffering humanity than suffering animals. But he'd do what he could for both..
I think he would encourage veganism, yes, but would spend more of his time trying to stop human suffering, as I said.|||Since we were created with both:
Canine teeth, used to tear meat
Molar teeth, used to grind plants.
Depending on your beliefs what does that tell you???? Hmmmmm I would say he would have been an Omnivore!|||Jesus was not a vegetarian, let alone a vegan. He ate fish. I think during his time they also ate lamb meat. He drank milk.
Also, I think they sacrificed animals on God's altar.|||That would be pure speculation.|||I Imagine in that time period the common person would be thankful for any food they could get.|||First of all, I agree with majnun99, that this is all speculation. Having said that, I think we need to look at the differences in the times. Veganism as we know it today didn't really exist in Jesus' time. The more interesting question is whether or not Jesus would follow a vegan lifestyle if he were alive today.
I would guess yes. As a compassionate person, he would see how terrible the meat and dairy industries are and would not support them, or encourage others to do so. Even if you do believe that God meant for us to eat meat, you can't honestly believe factory farming is what he had in mind. Any decent, loving, and knowledgeable individual (which by all accounts, Jesus was), can see that the way we torture and slaughter these sentient creatures by the billions is wrong.|||hisorical fact say that jesus was vegetarian. look it up.|||no - he would realise that evolution meant humans eat animals.|||I don't know about veganism, but likely vegetarianism because he likely ate fish...|||he made animals for us to eat.
so we dont starve and die.
What you read on the web seems to be very bias towards both negative or affirmative. Does anyone have life example to prove either way?
http://www.evangelize.com.au/|||Not a convincing one. Thyroid problems relate to iodine intake, and some studies have shown vegans can be low in iodine but this can be easily remedied by including kelp in the diet. One study has identified a total of four cases of goiter in the UK attributable to vegan diets since 1966 (Park et al (2006). Iodine deficiency goitre in the United Kingdom - the result of a vegan diet. Endocrine Abstracts 9 P176: http://www.endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/00鈥?/a> ). People low in iodine are at risk from thyroid problems which may be enhanced by soy consumption. However with sufficient iodine intake there is no risk of thyroid trouble even with high soy intake.
The other concern is the effects during pregnancy in vegans. There is evidence that the offspring of women on vegan diets while pregnant are at increased risk of thyroid disfunction during later life (Shaikh et al. (2003). Transient Neonatal Hypothyroidism Due to a Maternal Vegan Diet. Journal of Pediatric Endocrinology and Metabolism. Volume 16, Issue 1, Pages 111鈥?14: http://www.reference-global.com/doi/abs/鈥?/a> ). There are questions about what causes this, soy intake has been identified as a risk factor but there may be other inadequate mineral or vitamin intakes which can contribute or are responsible for this albeit rare effect.|||There are definite links between soy and thyroid function problems, exacerbated by low iodine levels. But really, if you eat soy in moderation (not a cup of soy milk on your breakfast cereal, a soy milk smoothie for lunch and some fake soy-based meat for your dinner) you'll be fine. Best sources of soy are fermented ones, like tempeh.
PS, putting an unrelated link in your question constitutes "solicitation" and is against the Community Guidelines.|||I think it tends to be a reasonably common issue in vegans. However, you can get supplement, and if something goes wrong and you get to a doctor, it's not going to kill you (although there can be serious health complications if you're a child or pregnant) and there'll be no health worries in the long term. Also there are a plethora of health benefits if veganism is done properly that outweigh the few negatives.|||NO. Veganism is healthy as long as you do it right and get enough calories.
Your diet should consist the majority of fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds, beans, potatoes to suceed in veganism. You also have to get enough calories, or else this doesn't work.|||No seriously, eat normal food in normal amounts, you'll be fine.
I won't go to a site called evangelize, sorry it just sounds a bit religious to me.
! No offense.|||There IS a link between veganism and stupidity.
What do you think of the information given on this site? Eye-opening? BS?
http://www.rawschool.com/basics.htm|||"No other animal on Earth cooks its food"
VERY untrue. Vultures and other birds have been confirmed to cook their food on hot rocks.
I think it is a lie. It has many untrue facts\, and is very offensive. This website is wrong.|||A joke.
"No other animal on earth cooks it's food."
No other animal wears shoes, either. That doesn't make it a bad idea. Frankly, I think the implication that we should emulate the behavior of animals is a pretty shitty argument. We're on top for a reason.|||It is people choice :Different Systems For Different People
http://www.vegetarianrestaurantsguide.com/cookbook/raw%20food.php|||I was planning on eating on fruit and veggies for a couple of weeks to see how i felt before I saw this site.
But what would you eat when you went out to eat?|||im really enjoying looking through it..im 2 weeks raw vegan..interesting stuff on that site..thanx for the link!|||its all true...makes so much sense
Stuff that real Americans generally avoid?|||Arugula can be found at 99% of restaurant. Well, not fast-food, maybe.
Volvos are good cars.
San Francisco is a very beautiful place.
New York City is...New York City. No other place quite like it.
Foreign films are often richer, deeper, with more subtle storytelling. Libs don鈥檛 need car chases all the time, although I鈥檓 a lib and a big fan of action/adventure.
Don鈥檛 know any French people, but okay.
There aren鈥檛 really all that many vegans, but there are conservative vegans as well.|||You pretty much stuck out...
I like think steaks, the fench piss me off, i prefer bmw's, and sf and nyc are cool but have their own up and downs....
Still don't let this post cure you of your ignorance.|||Why do cons like Red blood meat, gas-guzzling Hummers, The dirty south, retarded racist films, pedophilia and oil?|||Sorry Ted but you are a twit!
Miine, I would have to say, is:
"Once we stop eating meat for whatever reason, the meat-eating world seems less welcoming."
--Carol J. Adams
How completely true is that?! hahah (kinda sad that its true though..)|||"For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love."
Pythagoras, mathematician
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
"To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being."
Mahatma Gandhi, statesman and philosopher
"I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't...The pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further."
Mark Twain, author
"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."
Thomas Edison, inventor|||"Fish are freinds! Not food!"|||" you are what you eat " ???????? damn girl are all veggies as delicious as you are ?|||"Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions, because eating all those animals leads to degenerative - and fatal - health conditions like heart disease, kidney disease, and cancer. So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases. Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals. Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and violently, and once a year sends out cards praying for "Peace on Earth." -Preface from Old MacDonald's Factory Farm, by C. David Coates
"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages." -Thomas Edison
"'Thou shalt not kill,' for life is given to all by God, and that which God has given, let not man take away. For-I tell you truly, from one Mother proceeds all that lives upon the earth. Therefore, he who kills, kills his brother. And from him will the Earthly Mother turn away, and will pluck from him her quickening breasts. And he will be shunned by her angels, and Satan will have his dwelling in his body. And the flesh of slain beasts in his body will become his own tomb. For I tell you truly, he who kills, kills himself, and whoso eats the flesh of slain beasts, eats of the body of death. For in his blood every drop of their blood turns to poison; in his breath their breath to stink; in his flesh their flesh to boils; in his bones their bones to chalk; in his bowels their bowels to decay; in his eyes their eyes to scales; in his ears their ears to waxy issue. And their death will become his death." -Jesus
"Alas, what wickedness to swallow flesh into our own flesh, to fatten our greedy bodies by cramming in other bodies, to have one living creature fed by the death of another! In the midst of such wealth as earth, the best mothers, provides, nothing forsooth you but to behave like the Cyclopes, inflicting sorry wounds with cruel teeth! You cannot appease the hungry cravings of your wicked, gluttonous stomachs except by destroying some other life. . ." -Pythagoras
"Auschwitz begins wherever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they're only animals." -Theodor Adorno
"While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal conditions on this earth?" -George Bernard Shaw
"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of "real food for real people," you'd better live real close to a real good hospital." -Dr. Neal Barnard
"Kill not, neither eat the flesh of your innocent prey, lest you become the slaves of Satan. For that is the path of sufferings, and it leads unto death. But do the will of God, that his angels may serve you on the way of life. Obey, therefore, the words of God: 'Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is breath of life, I give every green herb for meat." -Jesus (I don't take part in any particular religion, but it's a good quote for all those who try to bring religion into diet.)|||"Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans ... are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit"
- Some idiot in an anti-veg article I skimmed with a sarcastic disinterest.|||"Animals are my friends and I don't eat my friends." G.B. Shaw
Because if you don't use things from the animals like milk, etc. It isn't good for the animals. Fur and stuff is okay not to be used but I mean the other stuff.
I just don't like vegans because they all have this I'm better thanyou personality.|||I think slowly but surely the animals would adapt to not needing to produce as much. However the human body was not made to live on plant material alone. They could be seriously hurting their bodies by not taking in the correct nutrients. And protein is not the only nutrient you can get from meat and they may be missing out on those key nutrients that can help them live longer. They just need to learn how to moderate meat consumption for the body's health and so we as humans don't kill off other species.|||we evolved to be omnivores, its in our teeth, and in our genes, plus certain animals like cows were selectively bred by humans for what they give us, if we stopped using cows they would have no reason what so ever to exist.|||It's better if animals are left alone, ideally. But domestic animals would take over if they weren'
t culled. I drink soymilk but eat cheese. The milk we drink is meant for the calf, but we have made it so the cows keep giving more--the same with eggs.
I think we should raise more animals that don't take more grain per pound of meat than any other kinds. Goats, elk, and rabbits, for instance.
I don't think all vegans think they are holier than us.
A lot of them do it to eat healthier--when you have so many hormones in the feed, and pesticides and fungicides etc. in the grain, it is better to eat high protein soy and more vegetables. But all things in moderation.|||Vegans shimegans. Dont they know plants have fellings too. All we need is in dirt. If everyone would just eat dirt this would be a better world. Of course we would soon run out of dirt. but that will be for our grandchildren to worry about.
ive been a vegetarian for a few months, and have recently begun the transition to veganism
thing is, the skin on my face has been breaking out a lot, which isnt something ive ever had a problem with before . Does anybody know whats going on here, and what i can do to sort this problem out? thankyou!|||It's either detox or a reaction to something new you are eating that you hadn't been before. Soy milk perhaps?
It will likely clear up on it's own (as mine did) as your body gets used to the change.
Good Luck!|||When your body has stuff in it that it doesn't need and can harm it, it's called a toxin. Toxins come from contaminated air, contaminated water and yes, they can be found in your food. Your body tends to hold onto toxins until it can detoxify itself, which is a natural process helped when you stop eating so many toxins.
There are a lot of toxins loaded into animal products, so now that you're finally giving them all up by becoming vegan, your body is able to detoxify itself. One way your body rids itself of toxins is through the pores in your skin, which can cause you to temporarily break out in a skin rash in certain parts of your skin, or just acne. Continue to eat organic, natural foods and drink plenty of water and it will eventually clear up.
This is assuming you didn't add a new food to your diet that you're having an allergic reaction to.|||It could be detoxing but I think its vitamin deficiancy.
VIt C, D and E are good for skin. Omega oils are essential- eat these in wheatgerm, flax seeds, wheatgerm oil, primrose oil, oilve oil and foods rich in betacarotene- sweet potato, beets, tomatos, papaya, yams, pumpkins, red and yellow peppers, collard greens, kale, spinach.
Dry skin lead to breakouts and the fat in meat has iron, folate, in it.
Eat nuts frequently- like almonds, peaunuts, walnuts, these all have iron and calcium. Sunflower seeds, pumpkn seeds and all the spread make from sunflower oil etc, use those.
I think it is that. Detoxing can take a while, but not a few months til you notice skin eruptions.
You may be eating a ton more bananas or something- they make me break out, It's worth noticing if you are sufddenly eating a load of something you never ate before.|||When I first became a vegetarian my skin broke out like crazy. I think it was my body getting rid of the toxins in the meat I had eaten my whole life.
Also, pay attention to the things you're eating. It's really easy to become a "junk-food-vegan". Junk-food-vegans don't eat meat, but to compensate they eat more than their normal share of snack foods like chips and cookies and candies. Those are all things that will definitely make you break out more. When the body has too much of something in it, it tries to flush it out. If you drink too much water, you then have the urgent need to go to the bathroom. If you eat too many greasy, sugary foods, your body has to get rid of it - which is why the skin becomes excessively greasy.
If those things don't sound like they describe you, it could be an imbalance of hormone levels. My friend went on birth control and it got rid of her acne because it evened out her hormones. - But pills should always be the last resort!
There's also factors such as stress at home, work or school, or extreme hot, cold, wet, or dry weather. Hope this helps.|||I do not know. Many people recommend a vegan diet to clear skin up..
I have always had a tremendous problem with acne. It's unfortunately a trait I inherited from my father.
I take antibiotics which is THE only thing that will get it under control. I may have noticed a difference when I switched from vegetarian to vegan. It cleared up a bit. (still with meds though)
Honey is the only animal product I still consume. No, it's technically not considered a vegan food by most. But if you still eat honey, then you might try taking a little everyday. It's a natural antibiotic. As is garlic. I both of these when I my acne starts to flare up, which helps get it back to being clear... ish.
I'm really not sure what could be causing it. :( It may be un-related.|||It all depends on what is meant by “breaking out”. Obviously, a new diet may trigger allergic reactions to new foods. On the other hand, if it’s “only” acne we are talking about, then it may be caused by relying too heavily on food containing saturated fat, which could be anything from palm oil to margarine, avocado, peanuts, etc., etc. In my experience excluding such items from the diet and replacing them with food rich in unsaturated fat (sunflower oil, almonds, etc.) results in a great improvement after just a week or so.|||ive eaten meat all my life and ive had such bad skin, about september last year i felt really ill and could only stomach plain vegetables and with in a month the difference to my pore riddled skin, it started to clear up....im now clear of adult acne and ive become a full vegetarian..i feel more alive and alert and not so weak..ive always heard people say you become a weakling when you only eat veggies..what a load of tosh..lol...
give it more time and you will see the difference....plus did you know, to much sugar can cause you to break out more...|||A change in diet will affect your body in many ways.
It could be simply that your body is detoxifying it's self. Or you might be having a reaction to one or more of the new foods you are eating. I'd say wait another month and see if the problem clears up, if not then try to find the offending food causing the break out.|||You just got to go with it and drink plenty of water which helps with the healing process!! When you change your diet from eating crap to eating more natural foods be it veg/vegan or a better omnivore choice.
It is detoxing when all the poison in your body is filtered out and comes out as spots and sweating!!
Drink plenty of water!!|||It was the exact opposite for me. My skin has never been better. Make sure you're eating a balanced diet with enough calories.|||just go to a doctor dermatologist asked thier what is the medicine the best first aid of that.,
ok, so when i became a vegetarian, i found all these great sites that mailed free info to me. i want to try going raw vegan for a month and i've found all these great sites online, but i would really like some free brochures and stuff. does anybody know where i can find this? thanks|||There are tons of Raw Vegan sites....google it!
or try this...http://www.allrawdirectory.com/index.asp
or this...http://becomingrawvegan.blogspot.com/
or even this...http://goneraw.com/
There are many more with lots of free downloads (pdf files) and newsletters
like this...http://www.oneweekraw.com/
and this...http://www.therawfoodcoach.com/
Have fun and good luck!|||you should look up the tree of life in patagonia arizona--run by gabriel cousens... look online, and maybe call or ask them for free info.
I am into raw veganism and if you are thinking of doing it than you are making a good choice, but just remember to do it properly and not load up on the nuts and fats.
http://books.google.com/books?id=wMSOfOu鈥?/a>
http://books.google.com/books?id=cCPkeRd鈥?/a>
Those up above are links that give about a 40 page preview of some pretty good books on raw foodism... the preview will be available the second you click on the link, but you have to read it online, or i suppose you could print it out.
But okay, stick with your idea on being a raw foodist.
Cheers!|||If you wanna be really active go 80 10 10 low fat raw vegan, you need glucose to fuel your muscles, glucose is in simple sugars found in sweet ripe fruits. If you eat a breakfast of 10-15 banana's you'll get 1000-1200 calories to fuel your workouts plus you won't get weighed down from having to digest all that fat and protein. Don't get afraid to get all your calories in, on average the chinese eat 2500 calories and we get on average 2000 yet we are overweight!!! Maybe we are doing something wrong?!? Eat sweet juicy fruits and greens and you'll have all the nutrients you need to fuel work outs. Use cron-o-meter to track your vitamin and nutrients intake and you'll find you'll meet every vitamin and mineral that you need (except vitamin D but your body can make enough of that if you go outside in the sun)
I recommend two books
Thrive by Brendan Brazier - not 100% raw but he is very close I would say 80%+ of what he eats is raw.
80 10 10 by Douglas Graham
Don't get sucked into the hype about the high fat diet with alot of overt fats and espically stay away from stimulants and superfoods that alot of raw "guru's" will try to sell you on. Brendian Brazier talks about stimulates and while in the short term they are good for a boost, but you end up having to pay for it in the long run!! Don't get sucked into the new age superfood movement that is really prevalent in the raw community, who needs superfoods when you have banana's, mango's, celery, dates, raisins, avocado's, lettuce, apples, cabbage, ect.... All of those together in enough quantities is more than enough to meet you daily requirements of all you vitamins and minerals!!
I eat very simply since going 80 10 10 basically a day is somewhat like this.
Morning 8-10 oranges about 700-800 calories
Lunch 10-12 banana's about 1000-1200 calories
Dinner 2 pounds of lettuce with 4-5 tomatoes, 2 mango's and avocado about 600-700 calories
Snacks Raisins, dates and some walnuts (usually 2 snacks a day for about 200-400 calories each).
If you don't get you calories in they you will either start binging on sweet foods or go back to cooked foods, also if you have issues with anorexia you might get scared at first at the amount of volume of food that you need to consume on a daily basis to really thrive on this diet. Also since fruit has alot of fiber you won't see spikes in your blood sugar since fiber works to slow the release of sugar into your blood stream.
http://www.healthcastle.com/fiber-solubl鈥?/a>
I try to get in about 3000-3500 calories a day, more if I am working out heavily. I am 5'8" about 145-150 pounds (male) and I've been at this for 4 years now 100% raw.
Check out 30 Banana's a day its a 80 10 10 community.
http://www.30bananasaday.com/
http://foodnsport.com/
Peace
I don't think there are any brochures you can get mailed to you per se but who needs them if you have access to the internet and can read sites for free.
Edit: Also get the China Study too he recommends a strictly plant based diet!!
John Robbins was the heir-apparent for the Baskin-Robbins fortune, but turned it all away to devote his life to vegetarianism/veganism and animal's rights. Go here: http://www.foodrevolution.org/
I read "Diet for a New America" 20 or so years ago. It really opened my eyes. I am no longer a vegetarian, but I do have a respect for the animals who give their lives for my sustenance. |||Farm Sanctuary by Gene Baur|||Anything by Eric Marcus or Gary Francione is good...Tom Reagan and Carol J. Adams to some extent also. If you're religious (or even if you aren't), there are also at least a few books out there about the connections between religion (mostly Christianity) and veganism.
Edit: Try going to akpress.org and look under their vegetarian/animal rights section. You're bound to find at least a few titles that fit what you're looking for. AK Press is awesome. :) You could try Lantern Books too (lanternbooks.com).|||Anything by Gary Francione is recommended. You could start with his book "Introduction to Animal Rights". He also has a blog,
So i'm 14 and don't care to have a kid anytime within the next 6 years of my life but say you're vegan and want to raise your kid that way, is breast feeding against the rules? :P
just curious :)|||Of course not! Vegans refrain from eating animals and animal by products...you aren't eventually going to be slaughtered so it's fine! I mean what else will you feed your baby with hmm?And the fact that you are vegan means that your milk will also be vegan because you are not consuming non vegan foods :P Breast feeding is also very healthy for babies because it gives them the fat and protein and such that they need to grow want develop|||I don't think so because human breast milk is ment for human babies. And that is what milk is for. The main reason that vegans don't consume milk from cows is because it's for cows, not people. So, I think that it would be morally okay for vegans to breastfeed. Also, if you are raising your child vegan, you should for sure breast feed because babies need a lot of nutrients as well as fat and calcium. But yeah, I think it would be fine just beause the mother feeding the baby would choose to do it herself, instead of having it sucked off by a machine against her will and the breast milk is being used for it's intended perpose.|||No. What being a vegan means is that you don't eat/use any animal products and although as a species we are technically animals, there is no problem with breast-feeding a baby because that is what we're meant to do. It has never even occurred to me that breast-feeding might not be allowed on a vegan diet because it does not involve in any way any kind of exploitation or mistreatment of another animal.|||haha. LOL. that is quite an interesting question. but the answer is NO. it is not against the rules. Vegans choose not to eat any foods that bring harm to animals, by giving your child breast milk, it is not causing harm to you as a person. Also, although you might be a vegan and not eat things produced from animals, you child is not.|||no,it is not wrong.
We are mammals!
That is healthy.
I read an article where a couple fed their baby nothing but soy milk and the baby died from starvation.
It makes me so mad. It is one thing to put yourself on a diet and have morals. It is another thing to be a moron. Sorry, that article upset me lol.
Ps. it isnt breaking the rules because breast milk from a human is not a product that causes suffering to animals.|||The reason vegans (most or some anyway) don't drink milk is because the milk taken from a cow (or goat etc..) is meant for it's baby not for humans. Same with a woman's breast milk. her breast milk is meant for her baby so of course she can breast feed her child.|||I've heard this before. Mother's milk is SUPPOSED to be consumed by the baby. Why on earth would you think it's wrong? It's completely natural and good for the baby. I swear, I just don't understand you guys.|||Vegans are fine with feeding their baby breast milk from a willing mother or even a willing human donor. They would not feed their baby breast milk from an unwilling captive slave forced to produce milk.|||NO it's totally suitable for vegans and their babies. If any vegan or vegetarian thinks breast-feeding is wrong, they are terribly misguided.|||Vegans are mammals, and mammals breast feed their young. No one is getting exploited or abused, untill the kid gets teeth anyway. :-)|||no, silly. vegans don't use animals for their milk, meat, etc.So breastfeeding your child doesn't involve harming animals...|||Not at all. If you familiarize yourself with the definition of vegan you'd know why not.|||NO
vegans ~want~ everyone to breast feed. It's best for the child. Even if you're not vegan ~always~ breastfeed.|||no its not an animals milk its yours.|||no
I am a vegan, i started it for health reasons but have since become much more into the animal rights side aswell. My only problem is that i love leather, more than edible animal products, i love to wear leather: wallets, shoes, belts, jackets (if i can find one that looks good on me) even bracelets.
Does this make me not vegan? sometimes i feel bad about it, but other tiems i think about all the good things im doing for animals. i just need some clarification, am i being a hypocrite?|||Yes,if you are buying new leather products you are not vegan...vegans don't use or eat animal products.|||I think Vegan refers to your eating style, but if you are into animal rights it is not a good idea to wear leather. There are leather substitutes out there for these items.|||Yes. You cannot wear leather and be a vegan. Well you can but you would look like a complete idiot.
IT reminds me of a picture I saw in the Dallas morning News paper one day about a decade ago.
Every year in about September Neiman Marcus opens their Fur Coat storage service so people can retrieve their stored coats for winter.
Of course every "opening day", Peta and other "fur is murder" groups protest outside of the Store in downtown Dallas. Well one year the protest got out of control and a few protesters got violent and had to be arrested.
So the day after I am reading the paper in the morning only to see a on the front page a girl in a PETA T-shirt being hauled off by the police. And what did I spy on her feet? Leather Doc Martins.
SO the moral of the story is, don't do anything that makes you look like an idiot.|||Doesn't make you a non-vegan but it does make you a hypocrite if you think it's wrong to kill animals.|||Being a vegan is not just a "diet", it is a way of life! Vegans do not take part in anything that harms animals, including leather, animal tested products, etc. If you are a vegan for health reasons, then you can say you follow a vegan diet, but a true vegan wouldn't want to have any part in leather.|||I believe the correct term for that would be ova-lacto vegetarian, since you are vegan in terms of diet but not in terms of additional lifestyle.
If this is something that you want to change, but you feel that you are comfortable because you wear so much of it, maybe you should give some away. As was explained to me in one of my questions, vegans are not obligated to get rid of things they have already purchased. However, you may look silly if you tell someone you're a vegan while wearing 4-5 pieces of leather. :)
To prevent yourself from purchasing more, think not only of the cows but of the leather tanners who develop a myriad of health problems from the chemicals. They live in dirt-poor regions, so they can't even get proper medical treatment when their flesh starts rotting away.|||As much as I don't like the concept of leather I appreaciate your effort. Placing restrictions and limitations is not a good way to make progress. In my opinion you start with a few steps and work at your own pace. The fact that you cut out meat has already saved so many animal lives and I'm sure in the process you discovered meat alternatives. The same will go for leather alternatives. In time you will see that you can find things that are equally stylish without using leather. You obviously have the concern in mind so it's worth looking into. As for wearing it now, I'd say to keep what you have and the next time you need something replaced try an alternative and see how you like it. Progress takes time and you shouldn't give yourself a hard time about it. Stress leads to regression and that's never a good thing. Be proud of your decisions thus far and work toward what you want.|||Leather accounts for 20% of the cost model of a cow.
If you wear, use or buy leather you are directly supporting the slaughter of the cow.
That makes you definately not vegan, and i would wonder why a vegetarian would do this as well.|||Michael H. is entirely correct. Leather supports the slaughterhouse industry. Period. I am not even a vegan but I still don't support the leather industry. You can easily buy synthetic shoes in most shoe stores- and petamall.org has tons of pleather (fake leather) belts, jackets, wallets, etc.|||There are many online vegan retailers who have "pleather" wallets, belts, and shoes. I've even seen pleather bracelets. Check out www.veganstore.com, www.veganessentials.com, www.mooshoes.com, and www.alternativeoutfitters.com, and you're sure to find stuff that suits you.
Vegans strive to avoid all animal exploitation whatsoever. If you wore leather, you would be considered a "strict vegetarian," not a vegan.
Some people will suggest that if you desperately want to wear leather you find used stuff in a vintage store, but my problem with that is IT'S STILL LEATHER. You are sending a signal with that leather that vegans wear leather--and they don't.|||If you still wear leather, you're not a vegan. Rather, you are merely a strict vegetarian, because veganism is a lifestyle rather than just a diet. Vegans not only abstain from eating animal products like meat, eggs, dairy, and honey, but they also don't wear animal fibers and they make it a point to abstain from using products that have been tested on animals or have animal byproducts. That being said, I strongly encourage you to check into leather alternatives. Many of them come in really cool styles and you can order them online.
http://www.mooshoes.com|||To me (as has been said by others) being vegan is part of who I am. While I still have leather and wool stuff, I do not buy any more. I have a leather wallet that I use. It's my old college ID holder and it is still sufficient for my cards and cash. However, when the baby is born (any day now!), I might graduate to a real wallet. One of the ones I have, that I might use, is leather. However, I rescued it from the trash. (It's a Fossil wallet that seems to be fairly new. I have also thought about selling it on CraigsList, just for the extra bucks.) I did not support the slaughter industry and I gave an extended life to something that would haver otherwise been filling a landfill.
I also have a leather bomber jacket that I've had for about ten years. I went to the town's street fair and met a guy. It was a chilly evening and he lent me his jacket. When I tried to return it, he wouldn't take it. Free jacket. I also have a couple of pairs of leather loafers. I got one pair at a consignment shop and the other pair at a store going out of business sale, both for under $5. One pair seems to be now too small as my feet seemed to have grown with pegnancy. The other pair just barely fits with my bare feet. (Becuase my 11s weren't big enough it seems.) I'm going to need a new pair for winter, and will look for non-leather. I also have a pair of boots that I got free and second hand that seemed oddly tight last year, and I'm guessing won't fit this winter.
I also have a wool sweater that I've had for six years. I did buy it new, but I didn't think of these things then. However, it's a red sweater vest with a brown and white argyle pattern on the front. It's nice and classic and I rather like it. (I did get it for half off, though.)
While I don't know of their labor practices, Payless also carries non-leather shoes. Earlier this summer I got a pair of black dress-casual loafers there.
Oh, yeah, geled capsule pills are likely made from gelatin.
Anyway, what you decide is up to you. When I say "I'm vegan." I refer to not only what I eat and don't eat, but to what I buy and don't buy. This summer I was talking with people about my lifestyle and choices. As I explained it to them, I was aware that I was wearing my leather loafers and said that I had bought them long before I changed, but would not waste a good pair of shoes, as that is also not who I am. (I was raised to buy as cheap in price as possible and to keep them for as long as possible.)
Anyway, I hope this short-ish explanation of my life helps.|||I'm a vegan but if I were to eat a vegan diet but still wear leather I wouldn't call myself one.
I wouldn't call someone a vegan if they wear leather. what would be the point?
I bought jeans last week and didn't realize there was a small leather pocket till after I bought them so I returned the pair of jeans. fashion doesn't have to equal wearing dead animals.
there is always faux leather, doesn't last as long as real leather but why wear dead animal skin?
I still feel weird wearing fake leather.
http://www.veganessentials.com/
http://www.mooshoes.com/|||I can't swallow either.
I hate to admit but I think I started hating meat just meat from pig,cow and stuff
but I still eat sea foods, if I'm going to be a vegan can I still eat 'em?
vegetables don't always taste the same as I love
Is thier a classification on vegans?|||Veganism is neither good nor bad, but a personal choice.
Vegetarians do not consume meat, fish, or poultry.
Vegans do not consume meat, fish, poultry, eggs, or dairy.
A person who eats seafood is neither vegetarian nor vegan, although some choose to call themselves lacto-ovo-pesco-vegetarians because the inclusion of the word pesco allows them to eat fish and still consider themselves vegetarian.
Good luck with your choice and do your research!|||No,some vegetarians eat fish because thay don't have much feeling as cats,cows,dogs,etc
If you are vegan you can't use any animal products dairy,meats,animal by-products,leather,suede,some medicines,shampoos and cleaning supplies containing animal products or tested on animals etc|||Why do you think you need a specific name or catagory to elliminat certain foods from your diet? If you don't like beef and pork, don't eat them. If you like fish and seafood, by all means eat them. Instead of worrying about classifying yourself as something, be an individual and learn to eat a healthy well balanced diet containing any foods you do find palatable.|||You won't even be able to honey, Honey. Any fanatical diet is just that, fanatic. Stop eating red meat if you want and get on with fish and chicken and you won't get protein deficiencies and other disorders cause by inadequate diets. Don't fall for their line of self aggrandizing fanaticism and paranoia.|||vegans dont eat or use anything that came from an animal. They are very strict vegetarians. No milk, no eggs, no cheese, no honey and obviously nothing that used to be alive.
Despite what the first poster says..NO vegetarian eats fish.|||Veges are good.|||If you want to put a label on it, then you would be a pescitarian. A vegan would not eat any animal products; many even abstain from honey. A lacto-vegetarian eats dairy, and an ovo-vegetarian eats eggs. You would probably keep eating those too, so you would be a lacto-ovo-pescitarian!|||Vegans don't eat anything that comes from an animal, including milk, eggs and honey. You should focus on eating healthy foods that you like, don't worry about fitting yourself into a vegan category if you don't feel it's right for you. Seafood is really healthy, and most nutritionists recommend eating it a few times a week, and going lighter on things such as red meat. It sounds like your tastes fit perfectly with a really healthy diet.|||You can not eat fish if you are a vegetarian or Vegan. here is my favorite definition of Vegan: we don't eat nothin' that farts. or anything with a face. or anything from anything that farts or has a face. Basically, vegans avoid animal products to the greatest extent possible, with the overall goal of reducing suffering and increasing compassion. No eggs, meat, dairy, honey, wool, leather, etc. This sounds onerous, but trust us, it isn't. Why kill to eat when you don't have to?
There is not a Vegetarian in the world that eats fish and I can say that with confidence. Why? Because fish do not grow on trees, they aren't plants and they have to die to become your food.
People who eat fish that claim to be vegetarian muddy the definition of vegetarian.|||as everyone has said b4 me being vegan mean no animal products what so ever. its a very strict diet but not "fanatical". a few friends of mine are vegan and very healthy. id definately talk to your doctor b4 changing your diet n get yr blood tested for vitamins. many many veggies are high in protine and soy milk is now fortified with calcium so you really wont be missing much. if you're still worried about deficiancies, take a multivitamin. again, talk to your doc b4 making any drastic changes to your diet. good luck!|||All of the answers above seem to provide you with the right answers. You just need to know for your self what type of person you are. If all you want to eat is fish then do just that don't deny yourself because of the definition of a word.|||veganism is very complex... it's not just about the animal but chemicals.
one must be really into the research.
http://www.vegan.org/
http://www.vegansociety.com/
http://www.vegan.com/
so on.
vegans can't eat many things.
and things considered vegan at the grocer... store.... anywhere has to be under scruteny... because in most cases it's not.
it's not just about not being cruel to an animal but.. what is put in our foods.. it's very, very hard to be vegan.
it is... it takes much time and dedication.
IE: if you love ice cream... you must give up most of it... because of what is in ice creams...
vegan prepackaged goods.. YOU better read those lables! most vegan foods (accusedly) have animal products in it and chemicals that are derived from processed chemicals that are from animal biproducts...
chocolates, candies.. soy products that make astounding claims and even watch out for tofu!
you can do it.. but watch out don't be tricked!
vegetables can be great! fresh produce! that's the key.
and there are many vegan alternatives.. start out slow... don't just drop the past and go vegan.. it's ok to go into it slow.. matter of fact it's encouraged.
read the facts.. know about the food you eat now and the foods you think you must eat in order to be a vegan.
:D
the more you know the better.
and watch out for canned fruits and veggies... also dehydrated most are choked with chemicals for mass production.. things have to survive transport and storage.
it's just how things have gotten in a mass produced society.
but take your time!
the things you may think can't possibly have animal in it will!
amazing.. but not hopeless.
:D
good luck!|||If your going to be a vegan, that means no meats at all, even seafood. No cheese, no eggs, no milk, no dairy products of any kind unless its imitation like Rice Dream or something. They actually have imitation ice creams and things for vegans now, the trick is knowing where to find it. Some vegans don't even wear clothing that had anything to do with animals, or eat off of plates that had animal products on them. It's hard to get protein and calcium when your a vegan, so you have to be careful about malnutrition. Make sure that if you don't get enough protein, take supplements to make up for it.
The British Vegan Society defines veganism as: A philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude 鈥?as far as is possible and practical 鈥?all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. [In dietary terms the society defines Veganism as] The practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.
Hope you understand what I mean! If not let me know!!!|||I've been vegan for about a year now. In the beginning whenever I looked at my plate I saw a big hole where the meat used to be so I filled that hole with bread. I would eat steamed broccolli, hummus, pita bread and rice. The pita bread filled the hole on my plate. After I ventured out I tried a variety of different things, all the meat substitute and Yves and Smart Life and the more things I tried the more I came to develop a taste for them. Soy milk replaced milk for me. I had to drink a glass every day for 2 weeks to get used to the taste of it. Tofurkey replaced the turkey, vegenaise the mayo and Rice Shreds, the cheese. You get the idea. These days I don't rely to heavily on meat substitutes. They can get expensive. Instead I always eat a filling breakfast, chocked full of fiber so I don't pass out 4 hours into work. Lunch is always a salad, some fruit and some V8. Dinner is whatever I'm craving at the time. Pasta. Kashi and Amy's have awesome pizza. Stir Fry's. curries. I generally will eat at least two food bars of some kind during the day. Odwalla or otherwise and will eat cookies for dessert. I do it faithfully every night. I've struck a balance, found the foods I loved and stuck with them and I suggest you do the same. Just be sure you read every label. It becomes like second nature to you after a while.|||They eat artificial pills untouched by any life form.|||I don't really try to replace things from my former life. Find new things to enjoy.
Instead of milk, I use almond or soy milk.
In my opinion, cheese has no replacement, so I don't even bother. Sometimes I'll use avocado though for the texture and fattiness, like in a salad.
Agave nectar is almost as good as honey.
debate|||OoOoO someone wants to stir up some trouble in the vegetarian/vegan forum... just kidding...
People have to do what works for them, I don't contribute to the consumption of any animal products... That is what's right for me.
Oh and I just wanted to add what I thought about the idiot that posted about vegans not getting their Bvitamins...There are ways to get Bcomplex vitamins w/o eating animals... You should really know what you are talking about before you make posts like that...|||why would it be to far? millions of healthy people are vegans... why must we have cheese and egges? calcium can come from almonds, protein from all nuts, beans, seed, and other vaitamins from sea veggies.|||I understand veganism and vegetarianism, but I think when it comes to vegans thinking vegetarians are not doing it for a good reason or what have you, I think that's wrong of them.. I mean being a vegetarian is way better than being nothing right? It's less people eating meat and that's a start for a person. I myself could never succumb to veganism, it's just too much effort. I've tried being a vegetarian plenty of times, and I practically am one right now, but not purposely.. I just don't feel like eating meat that often. And of course, slaughtering animals is.. sad.|||Interesting question. I personally don't care to judge people as hypocritical or not based on their diet choices, I know plenty of meat-eaters who love animals and own pets, and some of them feel bad about eating meat and cut down on their own will, which I appreciate because I know that can be difficult.
I've been born and raised as vegetarian (though I've accidentally eaten meat by-products like gelatin without my conscious knowledge) and over the past few years I've been taking a closer look at my lifestyle and decided that veganism reduces the demand for animal cruelty even more. Given that, I made it a point from then on to buy and eat only vegan food to the best of my ability and avoid leather shoes if I see alternatives. My clothing already was animal-product free, I think, so that was all right. I don't think vegetarians are hypocrites, but it makes me cringe when I see some vegetarian family members wearing their huge leather handbags, perhaps not thinking about where those bags came from. (I used to have a leather handbag I wore around a lot, a gift from a former roommate, but I eventually got rid of it and walk around with a cotton handbag after that.).
My relatives actually had leather (pleather?) couches in their living room, and I really wanted to say something about it but thought it would be better to be polite and shut my mouth.
My concerned family members think that veganism is a bit too far though. They appreciate my sincerity and interest and conscientiousness in this regard, but feel like I shouldn't worry too much about every single item and whats exactly in what (as long as its vegetarian). Last month, for my parents' birthday, rather than easily buying any crappy junk food cake close by, I drove 18 miles for a healthier, vegan cake. But it was worth it as my whole family loved it, even though they knew it was vegan. My mother and sister, in particular, though, think that being vegan is not healthy, esp. for women. They think that the calcium and protein are not derived and digested as well from soy products and that organic milk and yogurt are the best, most natural way.
In all honesty, I think this argument can go either way and I choose to sit on the fence, more towards veganism being too far. Don't get me wrong, I make every effort to eat and live vegan, but my father offered me some hot milk with turmeric for my sore throat and insisted that I have it or that he'd be unhappy. He meant well, wanted me to feel better, and I wasn't about to waste his efforts and the milk, so I drank the two gulps of it, feeling bad about the cows as well. Again, I don't think vegetarians are hypocrites, as different vegetarians have different reasons behind being vegetarian, and it doesn't help labelling/stigmatizing people based on food habits. If they work in a meat shop or as a butcher, I'd feel bad for them, in that they're living that sort of conflicting lifestyle, but unless they're preaching about vegetarianism to others, I wouldn't call them hypocrites. Perhaps its not their choice to be stuck doing those jobs. Even vegans must have unwittingly owned animal-product stuff while vegan. Also, what about vets and all the people that own pets but eat meat? If they're not vegetarian, would you consider them to be hypocrites?|||Mmmn, not sure! Maybe I should state my use in order that my answers are more explained - I eat meat from farms but drink nothing but soya milk because of the growth hormones present in cattle's milk.
I wonder what would happen to those animals that are currently farmed in order to receive their goods - why care for and breed cattle except for their milk and meat? Why care for and breed pigs except for their meat? etc...|||Veganism and vegetarianism I think are too different things in my book.
A Vegetarian might be one because of health reasons. and might not care about animals at all Hitler (I heard on the Discovery Channel) was a vegetarian because the nazis were all about creating a generation of fit and healthy Aryans to take over the world.
That is not to disparage Veggies just an (Extreme) example of some one who was being a vegetarian for health. Meat can Contain alot of things like antibiotics or hormones that people could be sensitive to so even if they liked meat they cannot eat it.
Vegans on the other hand are making a stand in principal not to use animals in any way it is a life style choice or to some -as far as i can see- takes on an almost religious intensity as this is a matter of personal morality vegans would probably see vegetarians in the same light as meat eaters just not as bad.
long story short NO it all depends on why you are a vegetarian and what your attitudes to the use of animals is|||To me it all depends on what people want out of being a vegetarian and why you want to be one. Some people feel healthier when they don't eat meat, or find it to be a convenient way to cut reduce fat intake, or just like the challenge. Other people feel bad about eating animals, and still other people feel bad about "enslaving" animals for our gain, etc.
Probably the best thing to do is not to worry about who is hypocritical and who isn't, but to just live and let live. What good can possibly come from trying to convince a vegetarian who eats eggs that he or she is a hypocrit?|||Depends on the reasons for becoming vegetarian. If someone becomes a vegetarian for animal rights reasons, I suppose you could say (in the most strict sense) veganism is the only way to go without being hypocritical. But, if someone becomes a vegetarian for any other reasons (health, etc.) then being a vegetarian is in no way hypocritical. Personally, I have never met anyone who was a vegan for anything but animal rights or religious reasons. Certainly not health reasons....|||at the end of the day its how you feel about it !! you should eiter be one or other so i think its ok|||Well, my primary thought process in this debate would be this...
I could possibly be convinced to become primarily (though probably never entirely) vegeterian for my own personal health. the way I eat now probably IS a little unnatural (I may take the carnivore thing a bit too far...I just love burgers and steaks, though), and I may be headed for a coronary at 35. So, you might convince me that I should cut WAY down on the meat, and add a A LOT of veggies...
What I cannot see doing is veganism, whose primary philosophy of not having anything to do with animal products is based on moral grounds (moreso than the simple health aspect). Some might call me a specie-ist, or animal murderer, or whatever other vile things the extremists will come up with...but I personally view my life, and that of others of my kind a little more important than those of other creatures on the planet (sorry, human nature...in fact, that's kinda nature in general, that whole "survival instinct" thing). This especially in light of the fact that if I took a cross section of vegans and asked them their opinion on abortion and embryonic stem cell research (the former I tend to think of as "human murder" and the latter I think will lead to the wasteful idea of creating a life to destroy that life so that the quality of another life can be improved), I'm willing to bet the vast majority call abortion a choice (while eating chicken eggs is torture and murder) and stem cell research is a fantastic, wave of the future cure-all for every disease known to man, and maybe a few God, or Nature, or Evolution, may not have come up with yet (and, now that I think about it, isn't the whole moral stand of vegans supposed to be that it's cruel to abuse one life to benefit another????) Maybe there are a few vegans out there whose argument is all life is sacred (and oppose abortion and embryonic stem cell research), and those might get me to hear the whole argument for veganism (at least until I realise that the human body is not nourished on sunshine and happy thoughts, and that, until someone devises a way for the human body to receive nutririon through photosynthesis, somethin's gotta die for me to live...). But if I get a response that a chicken egg is more important than a human fetus when I ask you (Vegan), I'm sorry, but I gotta shut down your entire argument as insane...
Now, looking at this, I realise that I may seem to be bashing Vegans a bit. And I probably am. But while my venting may seem trollish, it's not intended to be...I really want for some of the folks out there who are looking at us "evil meat eaters" to really think about where some of us are coming from. I promise you I am not the only one in the world who has this very legitimate gripe about people leaning so far to the left that they can't seem to see the anti-human sh-ite they are throwing at us.|||What's hypocritical about picking and choosing what you want to eat? Vegetarianism or veganism are not religions.
People choose to abstain from eating meat or dairy on ethical or taste grounds. Someone who ordinarily maintains a vegetarian or vegan diet should feel at liberty to partake in ethically produced products.
The importance of the label of being a 'vegan' is academic. The mass GM production of soy can be just as damaging environmentally as meat production. Ethical consuming does not begin and end with meat.|||Well it is a choice of course. It is hard to be vegan because it is just difficult to find something to eat...everything has at least egg or cheese in it! I try to stay vegan but don't always make it...|||Good one.. can't wait to see all your responses.
I am a VEGAN in my eating, not in my "life style". I believe the Human body is made to eat as close to natural as possible. I see in 1,000's of studies a Vegan diet is the healthiest of eating.. less of everything: Cancer(s), Heart disease,Diabetes, Obesity, Kidney, Liver diseases.
We can survive eating animal flesh, dairy, eggs, but we do not THRIVE.
My own Carbon Footprint is smaller because on how I live & eat. Will it make up for my neighbor, or even my son who does not live as I do..only time will tell.
Slaint茅(to your health)|||Like some others have said, it's a personal choice. And you people who say it's stupid or insane, do your research and then come back with a mature opinion. I might go Vegan one day...but right now I'll stick with being vegetarian.|||Its not for everyone. Some vegans think that vegetarians are hypocritical, which I don't think is fair, we're under the same kind of 'group' and share something.
But if you are vegan and manage fine, then kudos to you. But vegetarianism is just as good. All depends on a persons opinion I suppose|||I think it's a matter of personal choice. I don't think vegans go too far. Also, I think that if you're vegetarian for animal rights reason, you're very much a hypocrit. If you're vegetarian for other reasons such as health, then no, you are not a hypocrit.
I agree with someone else that eating meat is less cruel than consuming dairy or eggs. Dairy cows and egg-laying chickens are kept alive longer than ones meant for slaughter. So thus, they're treated badly for a longer preiod of time than those meant primarily for slaughter since the ones meant primarily for slaughter will be killed off at a younger age. Not to mention the dairy industry directly contributes to the veal industry and that egg-laying hens are the worst treated animals out of the bunch. I'm a vegan and I just don't really understand how some vegetarians who do it for animal rights don't make the switch. It's not even unhealthy. You don't need milk. A billion chinese people seem ok with out milk, so I'd assume the rest of the world would be ok too.
As for vegetarians that say they buy only organic and free range things, well you still can't be sure how the animals were treated unless you were there monitoring everything. The only way to justify eating eggs and having milk if you're a vegetarian for animal rights is if you own your own egg laying hens and a dairy cow.|||It depends on why you want to be vegetarian and what you feel is right. You have to draw the line somewhere. There are religious groups in India that don't eat potatoes or corn, because it comes from the ground and you must kill the plant to get it (although they eat vegetables that grow above ground). So it's just a question of what you feel is right. Remember, just because you can't be perfect doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Whatever you can do is better than nothing.|||One thing worse than a hypocrite would be a hypocrytical dictator, surely? If such people choose to eat - or not - as they do, that's for them. I don't mind that.
It's when they try to brainwash other people and their children that I feel moved to go out and kill something with a face and enjoy eating it.|||Everybody has a different need and can choose whatever they prefer. I am a vegetarian and without eggs, cheese and milk, I wouldn't have the energy I have. And I dont criticize the people who eat meat, if their bodies are asking them for meat, then they have to eat meat, many wild animals do that too or they wouldn't survive. So its not fair to try to make the others like us, they have their own needs.|||I could agree that drinking milk directly causes cows to be killed ( and all associated bad husbandry )
However, its not going to stop me supportng veggies as they hae a very positive and direct impact of the fate of many animals.
Veggies would be beter buying thier eggs direct from the farm gate. "free-range" supermarket labels are a joke
Veganism is not "too far" for many people. I know and meet ( we run a veggie guest house ). They seem to live by those morals quite sucessfully.
Dinosaurs "no guilt there" comment about drinking milk is a tad scary and ignorant of what actually happens...i would of thought a veggie wold know more about the facts.|||Eating meat is LESS cruel than "raising" and "caring" for animals that are used for eggs and dairy. They are both horrific and inexcusable but people are duped into seeing things as either killing or sparing lives. The idea is completely and utterly erroneous.
If someone wants to dip their toes into the whole idea of compassion towards all animals but wants to close their eyes when the facts regarding animals used as production machines come into their view, I do see hypocrisy in it.
Some people care but have been brainwashed too badly or have no skill in adapting to new ways of living. It is not their fault. It is the work of the corporate machine that we live in.|||it is a personal opinion. Everyone has their own reasons for eating that way, so it depends on their reason, whether it be cruelty to the animals, or preference for fresh foods.|||I am a vegan for health reasons and a lot of other people I have seen are for the same reason. I think it all depends on the person. If they have a full happy life then they aren't fanatical. I have noticed that people who are single and living alone are the fanatical demonstrating vegans. I know i'm stereotyping but it's something I have noticed. Its a good thing that there are people standing up for the rights of animals but they do go WAY to far sometimes.|||I think its on the personal tip. Its your choice. I do not believe killing animals to eat them is bad. I think God intended for us to eat meat. I think many people become vegetarians for the lifestyle. They feel healthier- has nothing to do with animals. I think the vegans are more of the people who do it for the animals. So to me if its about the animals then vegan is truly the way to go- bc it excludes harming them in any way. It cost more, and all the ones I have seen look like they could eat a lil more- but thats thier choice. Vegetarians- well I respect that too. I am thinking of becoming something like it- but I prefer to think of myself more of a naturalist. I eat meat, love chicken but at times it makes my stomache sick- so I resort to fish and eggs. I dont like the thought of horomones in my food so I dont realyl drink milk all that much. At the end of the day it doesnt matter. Like the guy said earlier- even animals eat animals, its a natural way of life. What you eat is your choice, there is no right or wrong, only preference.|||i love being a veggie yaay!|||i think it's really unhealthy the way some people are completely preoccupied about what their neighbor is eating.
what ever happened to minding your own business?|||it's not too far considering there is a wide array of food that doesn't contain animals or their products. animal products contain far too much cholesterol anyway! it's all about changing your eating habits, learning about new foods and having fun. if whole cultures can do it so can one person|||depends the reasoning behind being either.. I dont eat any meat other than seafood, and when people ask why I chose to eat one animal over another and try to bring up arguments that fish have feeling too.. I simply tell them that I do love animals (who couldn't) but I also understand the needs and process of the foodchain.. I really dont care if a person eats meat or not, my choice is not a moral obligation to animals, it is because I have been studying nutrition and body digestion as a hobby for over a year now, I have found that our bodies can function very well if not better than if you chose to eat meat every day, .. Beef, and chicken and the likes can be consumed by humans no problem, but our bodies are still very dated in the way they work, we are only meant to consume meat very rarely as back in the cave days when you had to hunt for your own food.. It stays in the body and takes ages to digest, thus to keep our bodies nourished through times of famine, as we now in this day and age have an abundance of food around us we do not need the meat in our bodies to get us through such times, although I chose to eat seafood because it is digested in a different way.. I also have made the decision based on food prpaeration (take away and the likes) as I don't really know what goes on with my food their.. but I say each to thier own..for some people it's health reasons, other weight reasons, other say product from animals is alright aslong as an animal isn't killed it's ok, other eat meat but only organic or free range, and others choose to eat no animal products what so ever, other just dont like one type of meat, others it may be religious reasons.. but of it helps you to sleep better at night then I am all for whatever reason someone may have!!|||Vegetarian = sane, grounded in reality. A weird choice, but one you can live with.
Vegan = insane, no rational basis whatsoever.
You CANNOT live without B vitamins, and some can only be gotten from animal proteins. Those pills you take for your health... come from animal protein.|||I understand the moral claims vegetarians make against eating meat but animals do it, we are carnivores and have been eating meat for centuries and you can't tell me that in ancient times when it was a much more natural way of life that they humanely slaughtered animals. If anything it was probably worse than mass produced meat. If anything, eat all the meat you want and stop driving your car!|||Too far, just not practical. I even think that vegetarians should introduce certain meats into their diet. Im a vegetarian and thats what ive done.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism|||In Israel, practicing lacto-ovo vegetarianism is relatively easy, due to Jewish dietary laws, or kosher laws. Kosher food cannot contain pork or shellfish, and meat and dairy cannot be combined in any way. As a result, most kosher restaurants serve either only dairy or only meat, along with bread, vegetables, fruits, etc. Fish, however, is not considered to be meat under Jewish laws, so it may be served in "dairy" restaurants. Nonetheless, the "dairy" restaurants are usually a very safe bet for ovo-lacto-vegetarians.
For vegans, falafel, hummus, and other plant-based Mediterranean foods are a good option. They can be easily found almost anywhere in Israel, and are very popular among Israelis. Additionally, all products marked as "Kosher-Parve" are usually suitable for vegans as this labeling means that there are no milk or meat ingredients in the product. However, Parve products may contain eggs or fish ingredients, which are not suitable for vegans. Challah and some other kinds of bread also contain eggs.
In Israel there is also one completely vegetarian moshav (village) - Amirim.
The EVU (4) also cites a study done by the Israeli Ministry of Health that claims 8.5 percent of the Israeli population, or 595,000 people, are vegetarian, which is an impressive figure. The Israeli Ministry of Health is a legitimate source, but no copy of the survey could be found.
Israel, at 8.5%, has the world's second largest percent of vegetarians,
http://www.submityourarticle.com/article鈥?/a>|||Hard to find reliable statistics about veganism in Israel. Keep in mind that Israel is a multicultural multi-ethnic third world country.
Generally speaking veganism goes well with the Jewish dietary so you should expect it to be some how spreading mainly among religious people,
For comparison with countries that has statistics available,less than 1% of the Americans and 0.5% of the Brits are.vegetarians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetariani鈥?/a>|||Not as widespread as Homosexuality.
I am currently looking into the raw food diet. Everything I grow can be eaten straight from the garden, but I love meat, and you have to cook it. If I had the money, I would replace red meat with sushi.|||I seriously don't know. I think they might have a pretty substantial amount of vegans in their country; at least, it wouldn't surprise me.
I just know it exists, and I believe that it's somewhat successful a movement in Israel.|||Probably just as many as there are in America or Europe. I don't see why there would be an unusually high/low number of them there compared to in other countries.|||veganism is great arseus
zionism on the other hand should be dealt with like the plague
capiche|||As widespread as those on a low carb diet.
I think it is the most powerful, haunting ,thought-provoking song on
the subject by miles. I am vegan thanks to Morrissey ! The day I heard that song was the last day of eating flesh for me.|||Sure we can all agree that no song has done more for pale, pastey, thin, malnourished people than Meat is Murder. Fortunately most of the world knows the truth. If you have such a hard time eating meat that is commercially produced in slaughter houses, why not do the right thing and start your own farm? If you really want to make a difference. If not, keep on whining in the background.|||i never heard that one, i'll google it.
my fave for vegetriansim is "free me".
good for you for refusing to eat FLESH!!!|||I know it's not a song, but what about "The Jungle" by Sinclair?|||I've never once heard of the song, so it did nothing for me.|||what about the band Earth Crisis(all vegan members)?|||I agree and congratulations on your choice. I remember that song! I still eat meat but respect your choice.|||What about Nirvana's song "Something in the Way" ...he says... "It's okay to eat fish, cause they don't have any feelings" ....he's being sarcastic of course!
I'm not a vegetarian. I truly wish I could be for all the right reasons. Killing animals is like killing your brothers and sisters. I think the first "hitting & killing" of animal is the root of all of violence. It kinda messed us up in the head when we (humans) started killing things. I mean, this primitive drive is the same primitive drive that fuels abuse, war, etc etc..... It's like saying be loving and be civilized but always be dettached enough to go shoot something in the head...or strangle it to death. Where do we draw the line? Be civilzed, yet be a killer. All violent acts came from the original act of violence, killing animals. Now it is, unfortunately, a primitive instinct in all of us. The question, are we (humans) ready to truly evolve? I don't think so. Bc if we were, we'd all be vegetarians and we would all living creatures. Sad, isn't it? sniff sniff|||Yes I do.
I prefer the song Carrot juice is murder - arrogant worms
Real song real funny. If you can't laugh after listening to this then you really need to get out more.
Yes, I know its a stereotypes of Vegans, but that doesn't make it less funny.
Maybe changing my mind about vegans|||I like beef stew, chicken cordon bleu with ham in the middle, ribs, ribeye steak, pork chops, hamburgers, tru-tip steak, and lettuce.|||I've neer heard it before, so I guess it hasn't done too much for meat-eaters everywhere....
I do like that PETA poem though... something about Peaople Eating Tasty Animals.....
Go Veg
http://www.goveg.com/
Vegetarian Society
http://www.vegsoc.org/
The Vegetarian Resource Group
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/
Vegetarian Times
http://www.vegetariantimes.com/|||peta2.org
goveg.com|||petakillsanimals.com|||peta2.com - If you're looking to buy merch, get involved, and learn about other veggies like you, check it out.
goveg.com - Tons and tons of recipes, more informational (tells about how you're helping the environment, the animals, etc).
vegan.org - Helps a lot if you're not sure what to eat, what to wear, and has some really good FAQs if you're not sure about veganism.
vegetarianteen.com - Definitely one of my favorite websites. It has recipes, info on animal friendly products, a message board, and is overall a really good beginner source for vegetarianism :)
no as long as you find a way to get enough protien|||If you don't get enough protein, vitamins and minerals, yes.|||Depends on if you are getting your protiens from a different source. It can be detrimental to your health if you don't know all aspects of it.|||Only if you don't find a way to get enough protein.
I wouldn't do it myself, but if you choose to, realize that you will have to replace the nutrients you get from meat and meat by-products somewhere...|||not if you are a herbivore. the human organism has lived for hundreds of thousands of years eating a mixed diet of meat and vegeez/plants. if you mess with that mix, you run the risk of messing up your bodies chemistry with in turn will adversely affect your health. there are ways to consume the nutrients found in eating the flesh of other animals. i think it is called toe-foo. i recommend gorging on bacon before you decide...|||It would be bad for me. Others, I dont know.
You get the tinfoil hat prize for the craziest theory posted tonight. Congratulations.|||They are lesbians? I have a sister that is a "leave eater" and she is married! I think satan has nothing to do with it. Veggies in your diet is good for your digestive system. So maybe u should do what your mom told u and eat your veggies!|||bogans???????|||find something else to do, there are enough smart***** on Yahoo Answers already.
I'm already a vegan, and I want to try a raw vegan diet for a weak to experience what it would be like. Anybody have anything they can share with me? Thanks.|||Its hard a first but you feel SO good after doing it! There's a lot of raw cookbooks you can use to cook from and the recipes are so good. All of Sarma Melngailis recipes are amazing! It's very healthy and you get a lot more nutrients from all the foods you don't cook so you will have a whole lot more energy, and i have gotten one small cold since i did it, but other than that i haven't caught any sickness from anyone in a very long time. I have always been vegan so i don't know about raw meat, but as gross as meat is that sound terrible. Also i like raw vegan deserts better than any other kind! Good luck :)|||I tried it for a few weeks and it was tough for me. You really have to plan ahead if you want to use sprouted/soaked grains and beans, and I just wasn't good at doing that. I think it would be easier if you plan out all of your meals a week ahead of time so you can be prepared. I ended up eating a lot of smoothies and raw veggies because I was too lazy to plan, and I just ended up being hungry all the time.
I'm in no way saying that a raw diet is bad or inadequate; you just have to be willing to put in some extra time and effort.|||I did it for about a week....it was very hard for me because I still live with my parents and don't have my own car (and therefore can't go to the store as often as needed), but I lost weight, felt more energetic overall, and stopped having digestive problems. I'm considering carrying it out long term, but I'm not sure how easy it's gonna be while I still live with my parents. Long story shorter, it was totally worth it. Even if you're just doing it for a week. Go for it! :D|||Im a vegan who eats mostly raw. I would suggest going on line and looking up some recpies and planning a menue. That would be the best thing to do. My absoulte fave is Raw spaghetti with raw sauce:)|||I tried it, but my hamburgers didn't turn out too yummy and I got sick from eating raw chicken.
Alright, it's been on my mind for quite a while (a month ago) and I've been strongly thinkin' about making the switch. I know it's good for the body. But what tips are good? Will there be derastic changes in my body and so forth?|||You actually expect to be able to go the rest of your life without meat?
That's like a 45 years+ smoker vowing to quit smoking.
Doesn't seem likely at all, ehh?|||Here's an article on the subject, with its opening paragraphs: http://createyourself.co.uk/item/326
Are you Veggie Yet?
"What you might not realise is the being a vegetarian and being a vegan are two separate eating ideas. Being a vegetarian means you're simply giving up meats – chicken, beef, fish, and pork – but being a vegan means you will not be eating any animal products at all – i.e. milk, cheese, honey. If you're not at the stage where you've given up meat, that's where you need to begin. Giving up all animal products at once might seem like the best way to rip off the proverbial meat bandage, but it can be too shocking to your life and to your body.
Start by slowly switching out meat in your diet to help your body and your kitchen become used to less and less meat dishes. You might want to begin focusing your meals on beans and on veggies at first, moving later into adding tempeh and tofu as you begin to expand your cooking repertoire. Slowly, change out more and more meals for veggie options until you feel completely comfortable without eating any meat in your diet. Once you've reached that point, you can begin to head into veganism."
http://createyourself.co.uk/item/326|||Ease into it. start by cutting off one meat at a time. like first chicken. then pork, then seafood, then beef, and take it easy.
i say that your body will want those foods, but you CANNOT give in.
Buy one of those power juicer things. i had one when i went on the Raw Diet. They will stop all of the craves that you have.
oh, and to help you stop eating beef... watch the movie Fast Food Nation.
I stopped eating beef for 6 months after i watched that movie.
Good luck!|||Becoming a vegan doesn't do any good for your body unless you exercise.|||Why do you want to go vegetarian? Meat is also good for the body, but moderation is the key to anything you eat.|||Admit it your gay also|||You are mistaken if you think it's good for the body. Everyone needs meat, fish, eggs, milk and cheese in their diet.
Once upon a time, there was a wise man who used to go to the ocean to do his writing. He had a habit of walking on the beach before he began his work.
One day, as he was walking along the shore, he looked down the beach and saw a human figure moving like a dancer. He smiled to himself at the thought of someone who would dance to the day, and so, he walked faster to catch up.
As he got closer, he noticed that the figure was that of a young man, and that what he was doing was not dancing at all. The young man was reaching down to the shore, picking up small objects, and throwing them into the ocean.
He came closer still and called out "Good morning! May I ask what it is that you are doing?"
The young man paused, looked up, and replied "Throwing starfish into the ocean."
"I must ask, then, why are you throwing starfish into the ocean?" asked the somewhat startled wise man.
To this, the young man replied, "The sun is up and the tide is going out. If I don't throw them in, they'll die."
Upon hearing this, the wise man commented, "But, young man, do you not realize that there are miles and miles of beach and there are starfish all along every mile? You can't possibly make a difference!"
At this, the young man bent down, picked up yet another starfish, and threw it into the ocean. As it met the water, he said, "I made a difference to that one!"
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We do it because it is healthier for the world ( so I guess in once sense by not emitting more methane by eating meat, we are slowly saving the world. If you want to think of it that way...) and most importantly, because even if we can't save every animal, even just one if better than nothing. To that one animal, we can make a world of difference. (That kind of concept).
You make kind of a bold/accusatory statement for someone who clearly is not informed about vegetarianism/veganism.
Best of luck on finding out the truth about being kind and compassionate.|||Why does it matter? If it's not your belief, then it's not.|||I don't think i'm saving the world
Mind you, i don't know what i'm meant to be saving it from?|||Animals yes
The world......I hope not!|||Maybe|||How do I give "free to be" best answer? Do I not have enough points for that?
I think its not just refraining from eating meat- it's an entire lifestyle change.|||I'm vegan and no, I don't think that veganism will save the world. It will definately make a HUGE difference, though. Eating meat causes more pollution than driving a car for 2 days straight|||One person being vegan may not save the world but at least they are doing something and that does make a difference.|||One small difference made by one person, makes a whole world of difference when they all come together for a greater good. So it matters to the Earth, to the animals and to every other human here, even if vegans, vegetarians or omnivores are making a little dent with their own personal actions.|||No.
Hey, just because you don't rape and kill people, do you think you're ending violence in the world? I guess we should all just go around being d*cks to each other.
Yes we do.|||it might not be saved in are Life Time - But I and we well still not take part in the killing of Animals.
- The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they do of the murder of men -Di Vinvi|||it will save animals, and it is better for the environment, as far as saving the world. It certainly makes it a better place.
And yes, one person can change the world.|||The funny thing here is that you've posted this question more than once. Do you think your trolling will save the vegans?
I just read this article that argues that the consumption of organic dairy products is comparable to going vegan. I find her argument to be less than convincing, especially since she goes on to say how nasty she thinks milk is. How can you know the animals are getting humane treatment? What do you think? http://www.vegetarianteen.com/articles/w鈥?/a>|||You are right- you should be skeptical. Organic doesn't guarantee the animals were humanely treated. The USDA rarely regualtes anything- and in the end you are just paying a higher price. Besides milk is for a calf!! Not a human.
If she had a craving for it- guess what- its because she has a drug addiction. Milk in cows and humans contain morphine! A very addictive drug that keeps a person coming back for more.|||I think veganism is better for people who want to prevent cruelty. Organic just means drug-free and chemical-free. It has nothing to do with the humane treatment of animals, and animals on organic farms are often not treated any better than those on factory farms. Also, any farm must slaughter unproductive animals in order to remain profitable, and the male calves are turned into veal because they don't produce any milk.
http://www.goveg.com/organic_products.as鈥?/a>|||I dont believe in eating anything from an Animal, because its made for THEIR babies not ours. What if you had a baby and then someone took your baby off you, to milk you to feed another kind of Animal. Discusting!
I dont think Organic dairy cows are treated any differently, just they eat Organic foods.
Its still inhumane.|||Veganism is obviously the better choice because animals aren't used at all to create soy milk, where as organic dairy are only made from animals that aren't pumped with chemicals- but that doesn't mean that they aren't treated as equally badly. 'Organic' and 'free-range' mean totally different things. And even so, the so called 'free-range' chickens only means that they aren't trapped in a cage with a couple of other chickens. Nowadays, the definition of 'free-range' means that the chickens are able to stand inside an overcrowded shed and get trampled by their fellow chickens.
Sad, isn't it?|||all cows whether organic or not end up in the slaughterhouse when they stop producing maximum quantities of milk. There is no such thing as an organic slaughtehouse so anyone who is opposed to slaughter by rights should boycott meat and dairy, no matter how humanely it is treated to start with.|||dairy is always good the nutrients supplement you greatly
Congratualtions!! You have made a not only healthy choice for yourself, but also know that you are saving an average of 95 animals a year!! Doesn't that make you feel good?
I have been pretty much vegan for over a year. I just stopped...it all. I went from eating anything that wouldn't eat me first to eating things that actually make me feel better and more energized. Take this into consideration as well: I was 21 when I became vegan. I had my cholesterol checked at that age (before I was vegan) and it was a whopping 284!! At the YOUNG age of 21! That is high for ANYONE, much less someone who is supposed to be young and healthy. After just one month of being vegan (my family was after me: "You aren't getting enough nutrients"; "You're going to be sickly", etc) I went to the doctor to have my stats checked and shut them up. My cholesterol, after only one month of being vegan was not only down to a healthy 192, but it had a *perfect* balance between good and bad cholesterol! How's that for you? And my doctor was completely cool with my choice. He even said that it was a very healthy diet choice. So there to anyone who gives you crap!
I don't undertand how people can love animals called pets, and eat animals called dinner. Who are we to decide who gets loved and cherished and who gets murdered and eaten? The difference between a dog and a cow? Not much. But we love dogs, take them into our home, even let them become part of our family, and eat the cow.
Being vegan is one of the best choices I have made about myself, and I will never go back. When I stopped eating dairy, I went to a coffee shop (one that knew I only drink soymilk) and they accidently put cow milk in my coffee. It made me so sick! Just the fact that you get so sick when you go off it, and then have it again is my body's clue to me that it wasn't good for you in the first place. If you stop eating vegetables for a month, then go back, you won't get sick like I was. That alone tells me something.
Plus, check out the websites on veganism. Constantly remind yourself WHY you are vegan. After some time, I think it is easy to start to slide. Whenever I feel myself slipping, I just go online (usually to goveg.com or something like that) and look at the footage and pictures. Then I remember why I am vegan.
If you need support, I will more than willing to talk to you. I know when I first became vegan, I really needed some support, and it was hard to find others like me. Feel free to contact me.
jaded_celest@yahoo.com|||Congratulations. You can check out these websites. Also do a search of your question in Yahoo answers and check out the responses to people who have asked your question before.
EDIT: As for "negative" health issues, I've never had a problem, and the only vegan I know who has was a "potato chip vegan." Eating a wide variety of foods will get you all the vitamins and minerals you need. I've been vegan for 5 years, and have never taken any supplements unless you count nutritional yeast. My doctor says I'm healthy as can be.|||I'm not a vegan, but i tried it for a week. It made me feel a lot healthier and i have a really good salad that is packed with protein:
canned garbanzo bean, balsamic vinegar, olive oil, garlic, and onions. Chop up the garlic and onions and put all the ingredients together (as much vinegar and oil to taste) and let marinate ( the longer the better) and then just pour it over your lettuce and add salt and pepper. It's sooo good, i eat it all the time now!|||here are some links to recipes..
Vegan Meat and Dairy analogs
Angel Food Cake
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/301/Ang… (vegan angel food cake)
Bacon (vegan)
http://recipeswithtofu.blogspot.com/ (2 recipes for vegan bacon)
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Faken-Veggi… (fake bacon)
Bean Cooking and cooking times
http://www.chezbettay.com/basics_beans.h… (cooking times for various beans)
Beef (vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1190/Sw… (swiss steak)
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/recipebox/g… (seitan steaks)
http://www.vrg.org/recipes/vjseitan.htm (seitan beef stew and stroganoff)
http://www.vegparadise.com/news18.html (stroganoff from sunburgers)
http://www.theppk.com/recipes/dbrecipes/… (seitan Portobello stroganoff)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/222/Sei… (seitan beef cutlets)
http://www.bbqu.net/recipes/403_1.html (ginger grilled tofu steaks with miso mayonnaise)
Brownies (vegan)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (vegan brownies)
http://www.albertabarley.com/recipes/swe… (barley brownies..can be adapted)
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/choco… (chocolate and prune brownies..can be converted)
Cabbage rolls(vegetarian)
http://www.fatfreevegan.com/veggies/veg-… (bean stuffed cabbage rolls)
http://www.johnrussell.name/recipes/croc… (potato stuffed cabbage rolls..crockpot)
Cakes (vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/category/cakes… (lots of vegan cakes,pies,fruit breads, incl. banana nut bread)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (cream cheese icing for carrot cake, vegan)
Cheese (vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/317/Bas… (basic seed cheese)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1055/Ye… (nutritional yeast cheese sauce)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/469/Nut… (nutritional yeast cheese)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/reci… (Lessarella cheez)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/reci… (pimento cheese)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (pimento cheese brick)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (tofu cheese rarebit)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (millet cheese)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (golden sauce)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (chee sauce)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (no cheese spread)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (tofu cheese sauce)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (savory tofu sauce)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (gee whiz spread)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (cornmeal cheese pudding)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (walnut tofu cheese spread)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (soy cheese from soy flour)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (nut cheese from nut butter)
http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/000… (cashew cheddar cheese)
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/clearlight/… (almond ricotta cheese)
http://www.boutell.com/vegetarian/manico… (ricotta for manicotti from tofu)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (vegan cheese..forum)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (vegan cheese like nacho or cheddar)
http://www.mountainhomebrew.com/browsepr… (vegetable rennet and cheese making supplies)
Chicken (vegan)
http://www.chezbettay.com/salads_chicken… (chicken salad..vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1153/Bu… (Buddha’s chicken..vegan)
http://www.fatfreevegan.com/Meat_subs/88… (chick or italian tofu burgers)
http://recipeswithtofu.blogspot.com/ (mock chicken patties)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/223/Sei… (seitan chicken cutlets)
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/chicken-sei… (seitan chicken)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/669/Bre… (chicken breast of tofu)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1372/Ch… (chicken fried tofu)
Chocolate
http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/recipes_… (soy milk chocolate candy recipe)
Crab (vegan)
http://www.boutell.com/vegetarian/krab-k… (crab cakes)
Cream (vegan)
http://www.soymilkquick.com/soy-milk-rec… (soy crème)
Crockpot (vegan)
http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/recipes/s…
Egg substitutes
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (several egg substitutes, flax seed and eggless baking)
http://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_pro… (flax seed or Ener G..and use of almond flour with Ener G)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (flax eggs)
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/vegan.htm#eg… (egg substitutions)
http://www.theppk.com/veganbaking.html (egg substitutions )
http://www.chooseveg.com/recipe_tips.asp (egg substitutions)
http://www.bellybytes.com/recipes/flaxse… (about flax seeds)
http://www.chooseveg.com/flax-smoothie.a… (blueberry flax banana smoothie video and how to make flax eggs substitute)
Deviled eggs (vegan)
http://www.vegtv.com/Shows/110.htm (scroll down for angel eggs recipe)
http://www.theppk.com/recipes/dbrecipes/… (deviled egg tofu salad)
Egg(less) Salad (vegan)
http://www.chezbettay.com/salads_mes.htm…
Egg(less) Omlets
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/20/Besa… (chickpea omelette)
Eggless Recipes
http://www.vegan-food.net/category/cakes… (lots of vegan cakes,pies,fruit breads, incl. banana nut bread)
http://www.hungrybrowser.com/phaedrus/m1…
http://www.recipes4us.co.uk/Specials%20a…
http://www.eggless.com/test5/index.shtml (eggless cakes)
http://www.ochef.com/218.htm (scroll down for recipes)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/20/Besa… (chickpea omelette)
Fish (vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1198/Th… (fish and chips vegan)
http://www.boutell.com/vegetarian/tunafi… (vegan tuna fish salad)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/824/Veg… (veggie tuna salad)
http://www.fatfreevegan.com/soy/faux.sht… (faux fish cakes)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1155/Fi… (fish fry vegan)
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=14902.… (baked tofishy)
Gelatin Substitutes for Vegans (see “Jello-vegan” , also)
http://www.vegsoc.org/info/gelling.html (agar, carrageen and gelzone)
http://www.edenfoods.com/issues_carragee… (carrageenan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin_des… (agar and Carrageenan)
Grain Cooking and cooking times
http://www.chezbettay.com/basics_grains.…
Gravy (vegan)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/reci…
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc…
Ham (vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1156/Mo… (mock ham)
Ice Cream (vegan)
http://veganicecream.blogspot.com/
http://www.vegan-food.net/category/desse… (some general ice cream vegan recipes)
http://www.vegfamily.com/vegan-recipes/d… (lemon vegan sherbet)
http://www.vegfamily.com/vegan-children/… (tofu fudgesicles and orange creamsicles)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1455/Be… (tofu fudgy-sicles)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/588/Cas… (cashew gelato)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1030/Fr… (peach or fruit ice cream)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1034/Pi… (pineapple ice cream ..vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/380/Cra… (cranberry sorbet vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/370/Cin… (cinnamon ice cream ..vegan..nuts)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/601/Ora… (orange pineapple freeze)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/491/Pig… ( peach sherbet with pignoli cream)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/490/Pig… (pignoli cream for sherbet above)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1035/To… (tofu chocolate ice cream vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1020/Ba… (banana and maple syrup ice cream..vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1019/Ki… (kiwi fruit gelato ..vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1033/Le… (lemon ice)
http://www.chezbettay.com/drts_icecream.… (vegan fruit sorbet..see left side)
http://www.cooksrecipes.com/desserts/fro… (lots of sorbet recipes)
http://www.recipeatlas.com/dessertrecipe… (mango sorbet)
http://www.recipeatlas.com/dessertrecipe… (several sorbets)
Jello (vegan)
http://www.kenter.demon.nl/recipes/rfvc/… (basic agar agar jello recipe)
http://www.kenter.demon.nl/recipes/rfvc/… (more recipes with Agar Agar, jigglers, nuclear, etc)
Low Fat vegan
http://www.theppk.com/recipes/dbrecipes/… (low fat vegan)
Macaroni and cheese (vegan)
http://www.chezbettay.com/dinrs_macnchee… (with premade vegan cheese)
http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/000… (with cashew cheddar)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (Bryanna’s Mac and cheese)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (PETAs mac and cheese)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (mac and cheese, vegan)
http://grazingrecipes.blogspot.com/ (best macaroni and cheese)
Marshmallows (vegan)
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~connelly/mars…
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recip… (sub 3 TBSP agar agar for gelatin or 6 TBSP pectin)
http://www.veganstore.com/850.html (to buy)
Marveg (marmite copycat)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc…
Mayonnaise (soy)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (tofu mayonnaise)
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/clearlight/… (tofu mayonnaise)
Meat (general fakes)
http://www.vegan-food.net/category/meat/ (list of lots of fake meat recipes)
Nut Butters
http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/000… (pistachio/almond butter)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (general rules)
Nutella (copycat)
http://inlimine.net/archives/2005/02/28/… (hazelnuts and chocolate)
Pies (vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/category/cakes… (lots of vegan cakes,pies,fruit breads, incl. banana nut bread)
Pizza (vegan)
http://home.earthlink.net/~jchoosej/Vega…
http://www.honeylocust.com/pizza/
http://www.recipezaar.com/10579
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/185/Piz…
http://vegweb.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=b5… (“the best vegan pizza ever”)
http://www.chezbettay.com/basics_bread.h… (Pizza Dough or basic bread dough)
Pizzelles (vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1450/Ve…
Popsicles and Cremesicles (vegan)
http://www.chezbettay.com/drts_icecream.… (vegan fruit sorbet..see left side)
http://www.vegfamily.com/vegan-recipes/d… (lemon vegan sherbet)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1033/Le… (lemon ice)
http://www.vegfamily.com/vegan-children/… (tofu fudgesicles and orange creamsicles)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1455/Be… (tofu fudgy-sicles)
Pork (vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/225/Sei… (seitan pork cutlets)
Pudding
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/cropf… (teff tofu pudding)
http://www.recipeatlas.com/specialdietre… (tofu fruit pudding)
http://www.soymilkquick.com/soy-milk-rec… (soymilk pudding..2 recipes)
Quiche
http://www.cybermacro.com/Macrobiotic_Re… (tofu vegetable quiche with teff crust)
Raw food recipes
http://www.vegan-food.net/ (see left side..lots of raw food recipes mixed in here)
http://www.vegparadise.com/recipeindex.h… (lots of raw food recipes, incl. pizza)
Sausages (vegan)
http://www.webvalue.net/recipes/sausage.… (veggie sausages, not with tofu..seitan?)
Seitan Recipes
http://vegetarian.about.com/od/cookingti… (step by step how to make)
http://www.vrg.org/recipes/vjseitan.htm (seitan beef stew and stroganoff)
http://www.veganoutreach.org/starterpack…
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/chicken-sei… (seitan chicken)
http://www.innerself.com/recipes/entrees… (basic info)
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/recipebox/w… (several recipes)
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/recipebox/g… (steaks)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/222/Sei… (seitan beef cutlets)
http://www.chow.com/recipes/10596 (seitan veal picatta)
http://www.johnrussell.name/recipes/seit… (general info)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/889/Tur… (incl.turkey)
http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/seitanrecip… (incl turkey)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/817/Sei… (turkey with gravy and stuffing)
http://www.theppk.com/recipes/dbrecipes/… (seitan Portobello stroganoff)
http://www.vegan-food.net/category/meat/ (several fake meats, some seitan, some yuba, etc)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/225/Sei… (seitan pork cutlets)
http://www.webvalue.net/recipes/sausage.… (veggie sausages, not with tofu..seitan?)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/223/Sei… (chicken cutlets)
http://www.vrg.org/recipes/vjseitan.htm (seitan beef stew)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (seitan stew in golden sauce)
http://www.theppk.com/recipes/dbrecipes/… (Homemade Seitan)
Seitan with tapioca
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/~cook/cgi-b…
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/recipebox/g… (unchuck roast)
Substitutions (vegan)
http://lancaster.unl.edu/food/ciqsubs.sh…
http://asiarecipe.com/substitute.html (substitutions in asian recipes)
http://kitchen.robbiehaf.com/EmergencySu…
http://www.theppk.com/veganbaking.html (vegan substitutions in cooking)
http://www.netcooks.com/Substitutions.ht…
Substitutes (vegan for eggs)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (several egg substitutes, flax seed and eggless baking)
http://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_pro… (flax seed or Ener G)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (flax eggs)
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/vegan.htm#eg… (egg substitutions)
http://www.theppk.com/veganbaking.html (egg substitutes)
http://vegweb.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=dc… (vegan substitutions)
http://www.chooseveg.com/recipe_tips.asp (egg substitutions)
Tips
http://www.chooseveg.com/recipe_tips.asp (vegan cooking tips)
Turkey (vegan)
http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/seitanrecip… (seitan and tofu turkey roast)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/889/Tur… (Vegan seitan turkey)
http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/p… (bryanna’s seitan turkey and other vegan holiday recipes)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/817/Sei… (turkey with gravy and stuffing)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/822/Tof… (tofu not-a-turkey)
http://www.razzledazzlerecipes.com/vegan… (tofu turkey with stuffing)
http://www.fatfreevegan.com/soy/oven-roa… (oven roasted tom tofu)
http://www.vegparadise.com/otherbirds411… (noasted nurkey, from nuts)
Veal (vegan)
http://www.fatfree.com/recipes/tofu/tofu… (veal parmesan..tofu cutlets)
http://www.chow.com/recipes/10596 (seitan veal picatta)
Vegan Recipes
http://www.vegan-food.net/ (very good lots of vegan ice creams and vegan turkey..see left side)
http://food.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=ArYjQv…
http://www.notmilk.com/veganrecipes.html (link list of vegan sites)
http://www.veganmeat.com/recipie.html
http://www.veganoutreach.org/starterpack…
http://www.all-creatures.org/recipes.htm…
http://www.catteacorner.com/recipes.htm
http://www.earth.li/~kake//cookery/ (has by country also)
http://www.veganconnection.com/recipes/i…
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~veggie/recipes/…
http://vegkitchen.com/recipes-galore.htm
http://veganconnection.com/recipes/index…
http://www.fatfreevegan.com/
http://www.angelfire.com/wi/DebsHome/San… (sandwich spreads)
http://www.recipesforvegans.co.uk/index.…
http://www.myrecipefriends.com/?nc=-322&…
http://www.chezbettay.com/recipes.html
http://www.vegparadise.com/recipeindex.h… (lots of raw recipes)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (thread..lots of vegan recipes)
Veggie Burgers
http://www.webvalue.net/recipes/american… (super soy burgers with soy beans mashed)
http://www.foodtv.ca/recipes/recipedetai… (veggie burgers)
http://www.foodtv.ca/recipes/recipedetai… (mushroom cheddar vegetarian burgers)
http://www.johnrussell.name/recipes/burg… (award winning burgers)
http://www.johnrussell.name/recipes/burg… (more award winning burgers)
http://recipeswithtofu.blogspot.com/ (recipes with tofu)
http://www.johnrussell.name/recipes/slop… (unsloppy joes)
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/bigpots/oam… (garden burgers)
http://www.recipelink.com/ch/2002/decemb… (original gardenburger copycat recipe)
http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=*%20…
http://www.vegan-food.net/category/patti… (lots of recipes)
http://www.cooksrecipes.com/meatless-rec… (2 pages)
http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/recipes/t… (vegan tofu burgers)
http://www.vegparadise.com/news18.html (sunburgers..sunflower seeds)
http://recipeswithtofu.blogspot.com/ (tofu walnut patties)
http://www.foodtv.ca/recipes/recipedetai… (veggie burgers with tofu)
http://www.foodtv.ca/recipes/recipedetai… (vegan tofu burger)
http://www.recipeatlas.com/specialdietre… (lentil rice burger with sweet potato)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/reci… (sweet potato burgers with tofu)
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/cropf… (teff burgers)
Veggie Loafs
http://www.ellenskitchen.com/recipebox/m… (neatloaf)
http://www.fatfreevegan.com/holiday/holi… (holiday lentil loaf)
http://www.boutell.com/vegetarian/nut-ro… (holiday cashew loaf with gravy)
http://www.johnrussell.name/recipes/than… (holiday lentil loaf with parsley gravy)
http://vegbox-recipes.co.uk/recipes/nut-… (classic nut loaf)
http://www.fatfreevegan.com/beans2/1254.… (adobo bean loaf)
http://www.fatfreevegan.com/Meat_subs/le… (lentil rice loaf)
http://www.vegan-food.net/category/nut/ (several nutloaf recipes)
http://www.boutell.com/vegetarian/gravy.… (vegan gravy)
http://www.boutell.com/vegetarian/stock.… (vegan soup stock for vegan gravy)
http://www.vegparadise.com/news18.html (northern bean and veggie loaf)
http://www.angelfire.com/oh4/YSEARC/lent… (lentil tomato loaf )
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (thread about above lentil tomato loaf)
Veggie Sausages
http://www.webvalue.net/recipes/sausage.… (veggie sausages, not with tofu)
Whipped Topping
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (whipped tofu toppings..several recipes)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/reci… (3 recipes, click on pdf)
http://rubies.articledirectoree.com/arti… (whipped tofu)
http://www.recipeatlas.com/specialdietre… (silken tofu whipped topping)
http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/arc… (whipped tofu topping)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/490/Pig… (pignoli cream for desserts)
http://www.aboverubies.org/health/cream.… (cashew cream)
http://www.recipezaar.com/129857 (chocolate topping…substitute soy milk and soy butter)
http://www.recipezaar.com/110009 (twinkies recipe…substitute soy milk and soy butter)
Yogurt (from soy)
http://www.soymilkmaker.com/recipe.html#…
Yuba
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1153/Bu… (Buddha’s chicken..vegan)
http://www.vegan-food.net/recipe/1156/Mo… (yuba..vegan)|||Get a vegan cookbook and pick out your favorite dishes and veggies|||you need psycological help......being a vegan is not natural, if you ever have children, do not do it to them when they are in infancy or you will kill them. Facts bud!|||Eat a variety of "whole foods," with plenty of beans, nuts, whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. Avoid unhealthy foods like trans fats, which are usually listed as partially hydrogenated oils. Deep-fried foods often contain trans fats. Choose margarines that use nonhydrogenated oil, like Earth Balance or Smart Balance. Although a diet consisting of Coke and French fries is technically vegan, you can't be healthy if you eat nothing but junk food. Vitamin B12: Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria, and some experts believe that vegetarians used to get plenty of this vitamin from bacteria in drinking water. Since drinking water is now treated with chemicals that kill the bacteria, it's important to make sure that you get enough vitamin B12 from fortified foods (like most brands of soy or rice milks, some breakfast cereals, and many brands of nutritional yeast) on a daily basis or by taking a sublingual B12 tablet of 10 mcg per day.
Iron-beans, dark green leafy vegetables (like spinach),whole grain breads, Also eat something with vitamin c when you eat something with iron, it increases absorption
Calcium-dark green leafy vegetables (spinach, broccoli, soymilk)
Protein-Isn't really hard to get, just eat a variety of foods, good sources are beans, brown rice, nuts, whole grain breads, soy foods
Omega-3 fatty acids-flax seeds/oil,walnuts,canola oil
Zinc-pumpkin seeds (best source), beans and lentils, yeast, nuts, seeds and whole grain cereals
Selenium-Brazil nuts are a particularly good source of selenium, so try to eat a couple every day. Eating a small bag of mixed unsalted nuts can be a convenient way to get your daily selenium intake, but make sure it contains Brazils. Bread and eggs also provide some selenium.
Vitamin D- Vitamin D, often called the sunshine vitamin, is another common deficiency in those not drinking vitamin D fortified milk. Synthetic vitamin D is added to both cow’s milk and most brands of soy milk today.
Vitamins A (beta carotene),C, K, E and Folate-variety of fruits and veggies
Iodine-Iodine is a trace mineral that's important for healthy thyroid function. Table salt is the most common and reliable source of iodine in Americans' diets. (However, sodium in processed foods usually does not contain iodine.) If you don't consume table salt, you can get iodine from a multivitamin or from kelp tablets.|||Supplements, Supplements, Supplements. I simply can't stress there importance enough if you are going to eat an exclusively vegan diet. There are just so many things that you are restricting yourself from on a vegan diet that it is virtually impossible to get all of the vitamins and nutrients you need to ensure good health. Most long term vegans that claim to have good health actually cheat a little now and then. If you intend to strictly follow the diet, for your own well being I hope that you will consider vitamin supplements. I was vegan for the better part of a year, had a wide and variety of foods that would be considered healthy and desireable on a vegan diet, yet still ended up deficient in key vitamins and minerals. Upon seeking the advice of my physician, I was advised that this was a direct result of the vegan diet.. I added egg whites and a little dairy to my diet and was good as new in short order. Please look at the link below. It's scary stuff, but unfortunately, a strict vegan diet can lead to a great number of negative health issues. I am fully recovered now, and have adopted a "vegetarian" diet that has worked quite well. As far as becoming vegan, I simply would not recmmend it due to the negative health issues that you will quite likely encounter at some point. Good luck to you.
http://www.wysong.net/health/hl_924.shtm…
Is it because they think if they don't eat bacon burgers and steaks they don't look masculine?|||I know, right?!!! We need some more veggie guys!
Seriously I find guys who are vegetarian so attractive!! ha ha If guys maybe realized how much a girl loves a vegetarian guy- they could use that to their advantage in getting girls! :)
There's a few reasons that come to mind for me:
Maybe it seems emasculating to them, maybe women are more compassionate or health conscious, or maybe women are more committed to lifestyles changes (and therefor stay vegetarian after saying they're going to be)
I'm not really sure but I'm all for more vegetarian guys! ;)|||To the iron deficient girl. I am iron deficient and I am a vegetarian. You can get your iron from beans, pastas, baked potatoes, spinach, prunes, raisins etc. And I'm doing fine. If it's hard for you to find food that you like, you can also take iron vitamins which you can get from your local drug store.
Anywoo, most guys don't feel like men if they don't eat meat. This is because simply society. Commercials "go beef" also send those subliminal messages. It's just a masculine thing.|||I'm a guy.
I rarely eat fast food,
and mostly because I can't afford to go to restaurants to
get what fast food restaurants sell,
(because you don't get much for your cash).
But when I have an option to eat healthier meats then I will,
and I will rarely go to McDonalds.
Personally, I do not like bacon burgers,
and I do not eat at "In-N-Out Burger" or places like that.
But I do need an occasional source of healthy lean meat
such as from fish (and or chicken, well done).
I noticed that whenever I refrain from eating red-meat that I start to feel weak,
and so it has nothing to do with image, or machismo.
I simply cannot feel energetic or strong living on just
soy,nuts & berries, eggs, fruits & vegetables, and breads.
I tried the soy, nuts-and-berries thing before, ...don't want to do it again.
So therefore, I eat meat and only occasionally do I eat steak.|||I think it's because they feel threatened. They don't want to think that there's anything ethically wrong with eating meat. If they validate vegetarianism they invaletate meat-eating and they don't want to have to examine themselves and make changes to their lifestyle. So it's easier for them to insult and belittle vegetarians as it validates their own position and makes them feel good.
P.S. I don't necisarily believe that meat eating is wrong. I don't freak out at meat eaters. Everyone needs to make their own choices. Which is why it's so upsetting when meat-eaters freak at me.|||Because vegetarians, especially vegans are very outspoken in trying to force their point of views on the rest of us. I've seen booklets on cars of slaughtered animals, what if kids see that kind of thing?
On a more personal note, vegetarians and vegans seem like very difficult people, you have to cook different for them, and when you go to restaurants they have to order different foods, and they are constantly worried about what they are eating. Just makes it harder to spend time with them. And if it's a girl and the relationship is getting serious I would personally be worried about what kind of diet you would impose on our kids and them not getting enough vitamins and nutrients. I'm sorry, but if you have to go out of your way to find foods and supplements so you can get enough vitamins to be healthy, that is not a natural diet, it may be for cows and rabbits, but not humans.|||Because they are afraid of anything that is different.
We unfortunately live in a society where the herd mentality rules. A few people are able to break away from the herd and do what they believe in but not many. Most poor souls are firmly under the control of the vast meat industry marketing machine and are incapable of resisting it.
It is called being part of a consumer oriented, marketing controlled, western society that cares more for profit and coarse hedonism than for the beliefs of others and the lives of those less fortunate than ourselves.
Cheers!|||According to the formula to calculate the force of gravity {g = GM / (R + h) 2 } the force of gravity exerted by a body (eg planet Earth) will continue to rise as height above the body (h) decreases.
Does the formula continue to hold true if h becomes negative (inside the body)?
Take the oft-employed example of the vacuum-filled shaft passing through the Earth. If I jumped in, would I continue to accelerate until I reached the center of the Earth/center of mass? Or would the mass of the rocks and magma above me start to pull on me in the opposite direction, so that my acceleration would slow? Asked another way, if I were standing on a platform 1-meter above the center of Earth's mass, would I feel weightless, or be crushed under my own weight?|||No because they love the taste of meat. and also if you eat no meat your body becomes physically leaner instead of buffed out. A lot of men need meat because of the way they are built, they would have to eat constantly in order to not feel starved. I'm a girl but have an iron deficiency and I could never be a vegetarian.|||I could care less what your dietary choices are. I bash them for their hypocrisy. "I SAVE ANIMALS!" Yeah... next time you make your tofu come out to the farm with me and help peel animals out of the combine when harvesting your soy. Also, I have never seen an omnivore slap a carrot out of some strangers hand and yell VEGETABLE KILLER!!|||Apparently sticking a big slab of meat down your throat is manly.|||I'm a male vegetarian and I think we rock!|||because a peni$ is made out of meat
Because Dairy and seafood are very healthy and nutritious and impossible to replace from plant sources. Of course if the dairy is organic and the fish is wild even better.|||What is the point of this? Why bother asking a "question" that you're going to answer yourself?
WE. DON'T. CARE. If you want to eat meat, FINE. WE. DON'T. Get over it. Christ, I don't why you people are so obsessed with us.|||clearly you nor the other answerer have done enough research... you are both incorrect.|||You are entitled to your opinion, unsupported by evidence thought it may be. Why aren't all the vegans sick and dying then?
By the way, real vegetarians don't eat fish.
I could ask my wife; she's a registered dietitian, but I already know you're wrong.|||To start with, I eat both dairy and fish, but I completely disagree with you.
Actually, dairy is a horrible food for the majority of the world. It causes lactose intolerance in everyone except people with a mutation - Northern Europeans, some African populations, and some South Asian populations. East Asians, North and South American aboriginals, South Pacific Aboriginals, and people from plenty of other places get gas, vomiting, and diarrhea from eating dairy, since they are not lactase persistent.
So your argument may have merit, if you argue for white people.
Organic dairy cows are still treated with antibiotics and hormones. Is that healthy? I don't personally think so. Why do you think that makes for a healthy meal?
Whether fish is super healthy or not is moot. I eat it, but I can honestly understand why a person would believe that the mercury, dioxins, polychlorinated biphenyls and other carcinogens in fish are not a part of a healthy diet.|||i dont believe AT all to each their own. i do not eat meat any more i do not like the taste of it. and fish IS MEAT SO i do not care what people say if you are a vegatarian than you shouldnt be eating fish or shrimp that is an aniimal too!!!!!!!!!!|||To start with, you aren't entirely correct. Done correctly, a vegan diet can be just as healthy as a vegetarian one. There is nothing in dairy and such which can't be found in certain plants.
Secondly, the diet you're describing isn't vegetarian to begin with. Vegetarians don't eat meat. As such they don't eat fish. Fish is meat. Learn your vocabulary.|||I must be dead and didn't even know it. You would have thought that day long hike I just made would have given me enough reflection time to figure it out but no. Boo|||who know why? me know you make rude, wrong words on your screen then send them around the world where more brains have read them (maybe you like wasting all our time with you comments?!!!), milk is for baby cows (who then still need 4 stomach's to digest it) we are not baby's and have never been cows...why is that good?!!
fish, blah-blah... omega oils are found out of the sea too my friend - don't you know??
then why state your opinion as fact??
maybe all that milk has clouded your judgement!?
peace|||You are SO incorrect about the health value of dairy. Casein is implicated in cancer growth and the cholesterol in dairy food is the only thing one can't replace with a vegan diet. And the only argument in favor of seafood is omega-3, which you can get from flax and walnuts.|||Clearly you have not done your research. Some of the ppl above have done a good job answering this. You are deluding yourslf if you think that dairy and seafood are good for you. Get educated.|||*high five* on the China Study!
You are so, so wrong, Aria. do some research and check your sources. ALL animal products are bad for you!|||Any diet, vegetarian or vegan, if organized properly, can be very healthy and nutritious. Just try to do some research, and you will be amazed at how many vegetables or fruit can be high on proteins and iron. Even pumpkin seeds are a rich source of protein!
But of course you are free to choose any diet you like.|||If dairy and seafood are so good, then why are some people intolerant to them?
Dairy causes osteoporosis! I drink milk once or twice a month, not gallons a week like I used to.
Friday, February 24, 2012
There are four main reasons and an individual may decide to quit mea based on any or all of these (or some other reason!).
1- animal/human rights- some people are opposed to the killing of animals for food since they must inevitably suffer. There are human rights issues involved as well, which I include in here since humans are animals. Basically some people believe the use of resources to produce livestock creates a disparity on global food availability and security, meaning more is allocated to the rich than the poor.
2- environmental- the use of animals is unsustainable at the current levels because there re too many humans alie and we are increasing at an alarmingly rapid rate. There will be 9 billion of us by 2050.
3- spirituality- many people do not eat animals due to their spiritual beliefs. India has about 475 million vegetarians who are mostly motivated by their religion to not eat meat.
4- health- many people feel healthier eating vegetarian foods and people who have family histories of diseases such as bowel cancer, high blood pressure and heart disease benefit most from being vegetarian as it reduces the risk of these diseases provided it is done sensibly without replacing unhealthy processed meat products with unhealthy processed vegetarian products.
So there may be other motivating factors, but the vast majority of vegos you come across will cite one or more of the above as a major influence.|||Some people do it for one of those reasons, some people do it for both reasons.|||If you educate yourself well and understand human nutrition it can be a very good thing|||its not exactly unhealthy, though ur body becomes less efficient at handling meat
So I've finally made my decision that I'm going to be a vegan. I've done all my research. How should I approach this? Should I just jump in head first and cut out all animal products (I don't have a problem with doing this) or do any of you have any better ideas on becoming a vegan? Thanks:)|||Just cut out all animal products right away. You'll feel the amazing changes in body more intensely that way.|||i think its easiest to do your diet first, then slowly as you finish your non vegan hygiene products replace them with vegan ones.|||Well, i went in head first, and havn't looked back since :)|||OK...
Throw out all your animal products and just do it!
Cows have to be milked. If they don't, their utters dry up and they moan because it hurts so bad. Chickens have to lay eggs. It's what they do. I know all about factory farming and how terrible it is, but why not just buy organic milk and eggs?|||Are you saying we should milk pregnant women, because it hurts when their milk dries up too...
This doesn't make sense to me.
Some people just believe certain things. They have the right to. We're just talking about food. As long as they aren't up in your junk, just leave them alone.
Personally, I think eggs are creepy. I'm not 'vegan'. I think eggs stink and I think they are totally creepy. That's why I don't eat them.
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Who says cows are meant to have milk? So are pregnant women, but do you see us bottling it?
Chickens...well, I think eggs are just creepy.
Honestly though, who cares. It's what these people believe.
If you really want to learn about them go here;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegan
As quoted:
People become vegans for a variety of reasons, including ethical concerns such as animal rights and the environment, as well as more personal reasons such as health benefits[1] and spiritual or religious concerns.
Otherwise, it just sounds to me like you're trying to start up an arguement.|||I see. Well, take into consideration the nutritional value. If you completely cut out milk and eggs, you'll have to come up with alternate sources of calcium and protiens. You'd do best to speak with a nutritionist if you are seriously considering this as an option. Report Abuse
|||Btw, Organic food is more expensive. That is probably a serious consideration for most people. Plus, it's not like you're going to go out to eat and request that they only use organic milk/eggs =P
Even bread contains egg...I think that you'd have a hard time being vegan.
Good Luck. Report Abuse
|||Ya, I agree with what you said, it would be VERY difficult! And I'm not sure it's the best thing at my age, as much as I'd like to. Thanks again for your answer! Report Abuse
|||And that's why I'm only vegetarian, not vegan.|||Yeah and plants have feeling too ever put a tomatoe plant in a closet and not water it.|||I agree. What's so wrong about that!|||Join PETA like I did
People for the
Eating of
Tasty
Animals|||No one lives forever
I swear when i die my body better be worthless
because if its all healthy and wonderful, Im gonna be pissed.
if it werent for farming we would be catching, killing, skining, deviening, and gutting everything we eat. I personally think the industry helps out quite a bit unless you all want to go hunting or something
Vegan, vegitarian, whatever, plenty of rabbit food in the world for you.
oh by the way arent eggs and milk already organic?|||Exactly. If cows, who are bigger and stronger than people, didn't enjoy having their teats massaged, they would have kicked and run away generations ago.|||You are right but I also think people who wish to be vegans are fine doing so if that's what they choose. I personally couldn't be that disciplined but I agree with you that factory farming is terrible. Buying organic is a great way to show you care and I do whenever possible.|||So do you think that without people, cows and chickens wouldn't be able to function??????? Animals do not depend on us, we depend on them. :-)
I'm not a vegan, and I do buy organic milk and eggs. Just raising the question.|||I think that people who freak out about eating cows, chickens, etc...need to realize that the animals were put here on Earth, by God, for us to eat.|||If people stopped eating eggs and milks gradually, breeding would gradually stop and they'll be just the right amount for carnivores. I'm not saying I believe it's bad to eat dairy, just answering your question. I prefer organic when I can afford it.|||people want meat (hey dumbass all eggs and milk are organic)|||I think the problem with milking is that the cows have to get pregnant every so often and dairy farmers take away the babies so they can keep the milk. That's just what I've heard.|||Yes, cows have to be milked. That's why they have CALVES. They normally don't just produce milk all the time, only when they have calves (like women produce breastmilk only when they're going to have a baby). People make them pregnant all the time (or give them hormones) so they need to be milked all the time; in nature, this wouldn't be so.|||Hey, I like the P.E.T.A. answer. I'll have to borrow that sometime.|||I also don't understand why vegans don't believe in wearing wool. If a sheep is not shaved during the summer they will die from overheating.|||From what I understand, vegans stay away from all that (even organic) because the cows produce milk to feed their offspring and is not meant to be drunken by humans. Same goes for chickens. The eggs are meant to birth chicks, not meant to be eaten by humans.|||thats the problem with vegans. the lack of meat and milk causes them to be irrational and extremely stubborn.|||Some people think that eggs should be kept to grow into chicks. And some religions think it is unclean to drink milk from from cows.
And some believe the cow is holy, so they think is like drinking that which comes from a God.
Some people just dont like the thought it's come out of somewhere that is very alike to its butt.|||Veganism is a philosophy and lifestyle that avoids using animals and animal products for food, clothing and other purposes. In practice, a vegan (an adherent to veganism) commits to the abstention from consumption or use of all animal products, including meat, fish, poultry, honey, eggs and dairy products, as well as articles made of fur, wool, bone, leather, feathers, pearls, mother of pearl, coral, and other materials of animal origin. Many vegans also avoid products that have been tested on animals. People who avoid eating all animal products, but who otherwise use animal by-products (for example, leather shoes) are commonly referred to as dietary vegans.|||I agree with you. But I believe vegetarians and meat-eaters will always outnumber vegans, so the cows shouldn't have anything to worry about. Vegans can keep to their preference without harming cows. And, yes, go organic!!!|||hmm i say that those vegan ppl have a right 2 do what they want u cant make some 1 eat something. its not rite.
and ppl get all sad when a deer gets eaten. well if the deer doesnt get eaten the predator will die.
so i still eat the cows and chickens because i need protein. you vegans and vegitarians who get along fine: more power 2 ya|||well i understand how you feel .
but beside the fun and heath beifits you are also help to stop suffering.
just think that same cow that you got milk from might in up in a food steak hot dog . etc. organic or not
ckicken lay a egg then peopel make batter with it then fry the chicken what if if was the same ck s egg
sad
reality
why not use the great blesings of th futer and moderen times
present time|||Okay...
(These questions!)
Milk cows (Holsteins) need to give milk because their activity has been altered in a way that makes it necessary for them to give milk...untampered with in nature they would only produce milk to feed their calves.
Chickens - Again...altered from their natural daily routine...unfertilized eggs....(Science class, birds and bees, etc.)
The organic aspect only changes wha the animals are fed and not much else. Even if the animals were aloud to be totally free-range they are still being made to live a lifestyle contrary to what they would in nature.
That said...if you believe as I do, God has given us common sense with which to live our life and animals to rule over and whatever, whatever, whatever...
I have never seen where a vegan diet is "natural." The vegans, hardcore vegans, would have you believe the human body was not designed to digest meats and animal products...my family generally lives into their 90's and not a vegan in the bunch. Somehow we get by.
You have to decide how to live your life in a way that is best for you and go forward from day to day. I don't judge them, they should not judge me...just don't expect to see a vegan meal on my table without advanced notice, upon which I'll provide you with a beautiful spread of food with no animal content...and eat my steak, rare to medium rare tomorrow!|||But we meat eaters help thin a possible over population of cows chickens... Well somebody has to do it and it might as well be me. Have a good one:-)|||Cows do have calfs to drink their milk.|||wel' i'm not a vegan i'm only a vegetarian,
I'm a 15 year old guy, and and I've been a Vegetarian for almost a year. It's been great, and I've been a lot healthier. But I think I want to go the whole way, 'cauze I still eat eggs and cheese, but they contradict the whole philosophy. Suggestions for how to wean off of dairy, advice, etc.|||Here are some web sites with some great vegan/vegetarian food.
http://silksoymilk.com -chocolate and chai flavors are good
http://amys.com
http://organicfoodbar.com
http://gardenburger.com
http://yvesveggie.com
http://sunshineburger.com
http://rightfoods.com
http://veganstore.com -they have chocolate!
http://nakedjuice.com
http://www.cedarsfoods.com/
http://bolthouse.com
http://naturespath.com
http://turtlemountain.com -vegan ice cream and yogurt
http://goodkarmafoods.com - vegan ice cream
http://fruitabu.com
http://clifbar.com
http://www.pacificfoods.com -has good almond milk
Here are some good recipes:
Stir fry- You need cut up tofu, soy sauce, olive oil, steamed veggies, and cooked rice
Get a frying pan and coat it with olive oil. The put the tofu in the pan and brown each side of it. Next, add the veggies. Add a little soy sauce and put in the rice. Mix everything up and then let it sit on the stove, occasionally stirring it to make sure it doesn't burn. After about a minute and a half of that put it in a bowl and enjoy!
Hummus- chick peas, lemon juice, paprika, cumin, black pepper, and any other spices/seasonings you like
Puree the chick peas. Then add a little lemon juice, paprika, pepper, and other spices. Then stir. Serve with a pita, with cucumbers, or on a veggie wrap.
Favorite Classic Pancakes
1 cup unbleached all-purpose flour
1 Tbsp. sugar
2 Tbsp. baking powder
1/8 tsp. salt
1 cup soy milk
2 Tbsp. vegetable oil
Combine the flour, sugar, baking powder and salt in a bowl and mix thoroughly. Mix in the soy milk and oil, and with a fork or wire whisk, combine just until the batter is smooth.
Pour cup batter onto a hot, oiled griddle. When bubbles form in the center of the pancake, flip. Cook for another 2 minutes. Remove from pan and keep warm while you make remaining pancakes. Serve warm with maple syrup or fruit syrup.
Here are some snack and dinner suggestions:
Snacks:
Celery with peanut butter
Apples with peanut butter
Pita with hummus
Raisins
Amy's Apple Toaster Pops
All natural popsicles
Natural Valley bars
Clif Bar
Fruit Leather
Silk Chocolate Soy Milk
Naked Juice
Apple chips
Dinners:
Tofu Stir Fry
Amy's Pizzas
Amy's entrees
Sandwiches made with Yves meatless deli slices
Tofu Scramble
Gardenburgers
Natural Oven's bagels
Dr. McDougall's Soups and Noodle Soups
Soy Cheese Quesedillas
Veggie Wraps
Whole foods is a great store for vegetarians/vegans, so I recommend grocery shopping there. You also can get a lot of the things I listed above there.|||Interesting. I'm doing quite the opposite. Pretty soon I'll cut all the veggies out.
But seriously, the best way to wean yourself off anything is to eat less and less of it until you aren't eating any.|||dude thats not natural. Human beings have eaten some form of meat in their diets since the beginning of recorded time. Just eat meat and be happy.....I think I am going to eat steak tonight.|||very cool, I'm 15 and became a vegan maybe 7 months ago. The first thing i did was try new things to replace the old. I went through a bunch of different soy milk products until i settled on Silk, same with cheese, cream cheese, ranch, "eggs", and butter. If you cut out all the not so vegan products in your life immediately you will try these soy replacements, get frustrated because you don't like it, and go back to eating the products you gave up. My transfer took about a month.
so go to Whole Foods or any other health foods store and just try things and don't be put out when you get something icky, it happens, but there is always a great alternative! you just have to find it
Good luck!!|||if you want to start ween of dairy slowly start putting a little bit of soy milk in your drinks/food and put in more and more.
until you go soy completly.|||That's great you're thinking about going vegan!
I agree with Jenn's advice. Try some of the delicious non-dairy products that are available these days. There are vegan versions of milk, cheese, yogurt, ice cream, butter, mayo, cream cheese.... basically anything you could imagine!
Here's a list of some popular vegan products:
http://www.vegcooking.com/guide-favs.asp
Definitely do some taste tasting, because some brands are better than others. I don't like most soy cheeses, but I do love Follow Your Heart vegan cheese.
Take it at your own pace; don't feel like you have to make an overnight switch. You could start out by replacing milk with soy milk... then cheese with soy cheese... etc.
Instead of scrambled eggs, try a tofu scramble. There are lots of recipes online. I like this one with Mori-Nu silken firm tofu: http://www.chooseveg.com/display_recipe.鈥?/a>
Good luck!!|||My little Brother (17) and sister (18) and I have been vegan for 2 years and have enjoyed soy milk, ice cream etc. and just recently found out how bad it is for your health.
There is so much controversy with soy so we decided to drink rice milk to see how we felt, and we realized our thinking got better because we always had brain fog and we were more tired on soy.
Alternatives to soy or dairy are: Almond milk or cheese, Rice milk or coconut milk.
So I hope this helps :)
Here is an article on-line about soy:
http://www.the7thfire.com/health_and_nutrition/truth_about_soy.html
Now there's a new coconut milk ice cream that is really good!
http://www.turtlemountain.com/products/purely_decadent_Coconut_Milk.html|||That's awesome you're considering veganism!
My advice: just cut out eggs and dairy. There's no real need to "taper off" - you're not going to make yourself ill.
Best of luck to you!|||Good for you and good luck!
My advice is to start slowly. Pick one dairy product that you don't eat all that often and cut it out. (like cottage cheese or yogurt). After you have the hang of that, progress into other foods and eliminate those. All the while, test out some alternatives to cow's milk (like soy, rice, almond, etc). They all taste different from one another and it sometimes takes a few tries to figure out what you want.
Unlike soy meats, soy dairy substitutes (to me) don't taste similar to animal based products. I wouldn't try to use soy cheese and soy cream cheese until you have totally eliminated the taste of dairy from your palate. These products taste nothing like what you're used to...you might be disappointed.
The things I found that are great animal based substitues: Earth Balance vegan butter, Soy Delicious non-dairy ice cream and Tofutti "Better than Cream Cheese". They are all delish.
Let me be clear when I say that this does not apply to ALL omnivores.
I do think some omnivores feel somehow threatened by veganism. If you asked them for their exact emotions on it, they most likely wouldn't use the word threatened though. That's admitting some vulnerability, which some people won't even do with close family.
Again, this doesn't reflect every omnivores feelings, but...so many things go back to religion. I just read another Yahoo! Answer's question on this board a few hours ago and someone mentioned being an atheist. And that kind of hit me. If you're an omnivore and you believe in God, and that God put animals here FOR HUMANS then veganism isn't just a diet. It's like defying God and religion. Some people might not make that connection right away though.
Another reason might be...say you grew up in a great family, and your family happens to be hunters. If someone has pictures of themselves with their father next to a dead deer once every year...now you get into the family and childhood memories side of things. Veganism is calling your childhood one of monstrosity, in their eyes. Then the defensive mechanism goes up. No one wants to think the life they live and love is WRONG. No one wants your judgment.
It could be threatening for so many other reasons too. You're a girl and you LOVE Coach purses and don't care to have some vegan activist tell you that your designer bag is murder, for example.
I totally get the feeling of having a finger pointed at you saying how a basic thing you do and have always done is wrong. It's not pleasant. That's why I don't talk about veganism to friends, family, or strangers unless asked. Even then, I try to be careful with my words. I am not always successful, unfortunately.
In nutrition, again, the idea of veganism changes everything they've ever been taught. "Milk grows strong bones", "you need protein to gain muscle", "eggs are a great breakfast", "beef, it's what's for dinner"...That's when you get called stupid because so many things have always said animal products help feed us and give us nutrients.
I think the people who TRULY do not care about your lifestyle choice to be vegan wouldn't even question it, or do things like come on these boards and try to disprove veganism. They simply would have other things going on in their day that would be of more concern. A conversation in which someone showed me they really didn't care whether I was vegan or not would go like this:
"No thanks, I'm vegan."
"Oh ok. That's cool".
"So how did that thing go that you were talking about earlier?"
That's my opinion.|||No, not in general, I think there's a few different stances meat eaters may take about it.
Most people think if a supermarket will sell meat etc, and they've always eaten it since their parents fed it to them as babies, it can't be that bad. Even if they've heard about the cruelty involved (and been temporarily affected by it), they quickly forget the connection when they see the benign looking meat, milk, eggs etc arranged in rows in a clean, brightly-lit supermarket. (Except "Earthlings", that movie seems to stick with people, and more people seem to be moved to veganism after watching it than anything else.) I think there's a phenomonon of 'popular morality' in this group, where people's ideas of what's 'good' and 'bad' are based on soap operas, talk shows, the evening news, advertisements, their neighbours and friends etc. Hence if something is not portrayed as bad in the media, they are not going to think badly of it either. They allow the media etc to make the important thought connections for them about how to live rather than thinking for themselves. These people won't usually think about veganism unless the topic is put before them - even when it's in the media it's portrayed as a curiosity, and vegans often protrayed as anti-social extremists, so that's the way they think of it. They don't feel threatened - except in the sense of physical threat if they've just seen on a silly soap opera a vegan character attacking a meat eater or something. They just think veganism is abnormal and probably unhealthy.
Then there's the many, many people who don't give a *** about anything beyond themselves. I can't say much about them as I don't understand how their minds work, but know the difference must be quite fundamental, and that they exist in huge numbers. They also don't feel threatened - perhaps amused at how idiotic anyone must be to care about animals.
Some people perhaps do feel a bit threatened by veganism, i.e. those who have a little feeling at the back of their minds that they are uncomfortable with eating animals - with a bit more thought, these people will probably eventually become vegetarians and vegans themselves - but I'm pretty sure they're not representative of all meat eaters.
I have known a lot of meat eaters to actually admire vegans for taking such a strong ethical stance, but claim to be too weak-willed themselves to avoid animal products - these people don't feel threatened, but interested.|||I don't think meat eaters are threatened...why would they be. Should women who color their hair blonde feel threatened by women who color their hair red? Maybe on a level some meat eaters might feel threatened because veganism exposes their ignorance. But what they really should be threatened by is the way the cattle is handled in this country---it is not cool on many levels. I am all for the circle of life but you cannot get around the saying you are what you eat. And I'm also not to concerned about that fact that we have to kill them to eat them. We as humans would not have survived on this planet without eating meat. But there is a way to do things and a way not to. Both the bible and the quran speak of this so maybe there is something to it. We don't need to eat meat to survive today but for some of us it is the other way around. The bad side effects of eating meat far out way the few benefits. It would be different if you could not get these benefits elsewhere but you can. Maybe on a level some meat eaters might feel threatened because veganism exposes their ignorance.
http://www.meat.org/|||um is this queston supposed to give any vegans a sort of pride or something?
i am a meat eater and i frankly dont care what vegans eat or want
i dont endorse animal cruelty at all.. but wy would i find veganism threatening?
are you going to chase me with your fake protein sandwiches?|||I don't think so but I guess they don't understand it. Lots of people can't understand why or how people can't or won't eat meat. I get the question often -'What do you eat then?' as if meat is the be all and end all of nutrition.|||I don't feel threatened by vegans. Why would I? I could care less what someone eats. If you don't want to eat animals or animal products go right ahead. Just don't drag me into it. I'm a big boy and can make my own decisions.|||No, I do not think that. I think that it is a ridiculous concept, conceived by vegans in order to make them feel better about themselves.|||Meet Eaters fear Vegans because Vegans are manipulated easily and are close minded, so the government can use them to carry out evil deeds. so,yes, we fear vegans|||nope, most meat eaters i know dont give a damn, and actually find it amusing that people choose eat meat.|||I would say they more often feel uncomfortable, inconvenienced or judged than threatened.|||In order to be threatened by something you have to care about it.|||No. Not at all actually. I think most of them just think it's odd that we chose to give up a food they think is delicious!
X|||they don't feel threatened, if anything they feel like we're inferior|||Why would anyone feel threatened by veganism?|||I don't think so.
Most say "oh, that's awesome you're vegan! I could never do that."
when I tell them I'm vegan.|||Can you elaborate??..
I'm vegetarian, and am becoming vegan in a few weeks =).. not sure what you mean..|||I'm a meat eater and this is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about in the question I literally posted a few seconds ago. What makes you better than us just because you don't eat meat? No, I don't feel threatened by it, I just feel uncomfortable when people try and force it on me and guilt trip me into not eating meat or dairy. :/|||no cause the meat gives us protein so we can fight the protein deprived vegetarians
I want soy chicken and stuff not because it tastes like chicken but because its very filling. I tried walmart and smiths grocery but it's all nasty. where else can I go? don't say whole foods or anything super expensive...|||I do shop at whole foods and some things are pretty expensive. I really like making my own things though. I buy black beans, dried and cook them in the crockpot with no seasoning. Then I make black bean burgers with cilantro, garlic, oatmeal and sometimes walnuts. I also use a lot of mushrooms for meat substitue. I have tried the Quorn brand chicken which I get at kroger. I like it, but recently heard there were some complaints about it, so you might want to check that out. Also, extra firm tofu is good if you marinate it before you cook it.|||Find a good Thai or Korean supermarket. The ones near me sell restaurant sized tofu tuna, tofu chicken, all kind of vegetarian meats, in different sizes- massive block of it too . YOu will also find fresh tofu, baked tofu and all kinds of other soy stuff in a good Asian market, and it's worth going the extra few miles once a month.|||Hi, I live with a Vegan who is pretty strict about what he eats. He is carefull to check the ingrediants for canned and processed food that he buys. He shops mainly at our local Safeway and Trader Joe's which here on the west coast both have good vegan food selections. We also have good fresh vegtables at our local farmers markets, ------ don't by products with egg whites in them, any store is good for vegan products , advoid the produce from outside the borders where sewer treatment plants scarce and drought area because of contaminated sewer water crops causing zoonotic,e-coli|||You can make bean burgers, veggie burgers, there are alternative things like ''veggie chicken'' and things like that.|||you can find some vegan products at Walmart but also try any whole foods stores or trader joes|||give it up and go back to normal eating
my roommate in college is a vegan. she also dances and keeps a pretty active lifestyle. she eats a lot of granola with soy milk, veggies, seaweed, and hummus (for protein) among other things. it's not easy, but she is able to do it, even on dining hall restrictions. but please understand, i worry about her health. she is able to dance and doesn't seem to get too tired, but i always worry about how much food she is eating and if she is getting enough protein.
life isn't always easy because you would be surprised by what she can't eat. for example, sour straw candy and pure dark chocolate are ok, but jello isn't. she can have Act II Butter Lover's Popcorn (there really is NO milk or butter in it) but she can't have a lot of types of bread. she could be healthy, but until she is on her own and can cook her own vegan friendly meals, i can't imagine her being all that healthy. (she does take some supplements but i know she forgets and those are really important to staying helathy) also, we can't usually go to many restaurants because most places dont have anything she can eat. or she asks for something like a plain baked potato and the server can't figure out why she doesn't want butter or sour cream. then she has make a big deal about getting a potato. most of the world doesn't understand the choice. it's even taken her parents awhile to get used to it. it took them two years before they broke down and got a tofurkey for thanksgiving.
so if you or someone you know is thinking about making that choice, just remember it is really hard to do unless you can do all your shopping and make all your meals and you are really limited when it comes to going out places to eat.|||no protein. not good.|||The healthiest lifestyle there is. But only if you pay alot of attention to the foods your are eating to make sure you are getting all of the protein and vitamins and minerals you need. You can get every single nutrient you need in a vegan diet.|||yes and its a good reason why only 2 percent of the few vegans out there are obese, my friend lossed lots of weight the healthy way.|||Upsolutely NOOO|||It all depends on whether you eat right and drink enough water. Make sure you take a multi-vitamin as well. Just do some research.|||It depends on who you ask. I would say vegans are probably healthier than a lot of people here in the U.S. They are usually health concious and eat the kinds of foods that the rest of us in the U.S. really need to! However because they need to keep an eye on the amount of B12 they get (they don't get enough without supplement or careful diet) I would say having some eggs, milk, or fish in your diet at least occasionally would be a good thing.
There are also social ramifications to being a vegan, versus being an ovo-lacto vegetarian, or fish eating person. The more things you cut out of your diet, the harder it is to go to a restaurant or to someone else's house to eat. When food is so intertwined with social gatherings, it can be difficult as a vegan.|||its a cool thing but i haven't in braced it fully trying to stay kosher iam inbetween vegetarian/vegan and kosher|||It's fine as long as you supplement all the nutrients you're missing out on by not eating meat. You might have to take protein supplements, and especially iron tablets. Anaemia sucks! I'm an omnivore but I'm naturally anaemic and when your iron levels go down you just feel really queasy and faint and tired, it's horrible. Be sure you know how to manage a vegan diet if youre going to go for it.|||yes. but i like eating meat. its a pain in the *** trying to always find something without animal products in it.|||yes, my uncle is supossed to be dead, but he turned vegan and is still alive to this day because of his diet.|||If you stick to organic foods, eat mostly fruits and veggies, drink a lot of water and exercise you'll be healthy... I think its important to have some meat in your diet. Beef for Iron, etc. Many Vegans just don't like the use of animals because its a living creature that has feelings. (well... pain, care for its youngs, etc)|||Nope - look at them, most are sickly little goth heads.|||It is the healthiest option, if well-planned. You definitely can't be a picky eater, since your food options are already limited. You have to be willing to try new foods, like soy foods, tofu, vegetables, etc. Some people actually feel liberated when starting a vegan diet, because they try a lot of foods they've never had and actually have more variety in their diet than before. On top of that, you have peace of mind knowing you are doing what is best for your body, the environment, and the animals. There are lots of great substitutes out there for the foods that you like. People who are vegan live longer and are much less likely to get certain types of cancers (meats are loaded with carcinogens and other nasty chemicals).
Please email me if you want to discuss further.|||Not if you are militant about it and let it take over your life. I find the best balance to be all vegetarian and mostly vegan. I have icecream once in a while in the summertime and eat a cheese containing dish at a restaurant when I can't face another salad.
Over time I have replaced most of my recipes with vegan versions. It is a healthy lifestyle if you eat wholefoods and a balanced diet. (Fritos and diet coke are vegan, but you won't live long eating just that)
www.veganoutreach.org See the article "How vegan"
www.vegsource.com for health related info
www.vegweb.com for recipes
www.supervegan.com for news.|||It can be perfectly healthy if well planned, however, it is not the healthiest lifestyle there is, like someone suggested. Vegans can get all the nutrients they need without eating meat (although they can't get Vitamin B12 naturally), but thats not to say it's inherently any healthier. Many of the benefits come from eating a wide range of fruit and veg, and being health conscious, as vegans usually are (and both of which are beneficial), not from not eating meat, so you could get those benefits without omitting meat. Similarly, meat is only unhealthy if you eat too much, as it does contain fat and cholesterol, and too much of either of those can be bad (that's 'too much' can be bad, not 'any' can be bad, as you need both of those in your diet ). However, most people don't need to worry about how much meat they eat at all, mainly only those who have heart, cholesterol or related problems. Exercise is a much healthier way of getting rid of cholesterol and fat anyway. Meat has very many benefits itself, and there are very few health advantages to not eating meat at all.
Research has actually shown that a high fish diet is the healthiest diet in terms of disease and longevity.
recently i became a vegan, and ever since i have felt a strange attraction to other men.|||No, but all those penises up your mouth and rectum made you gay.|||Dear Trolls, Please try to make your obnoxious, hate-infested spew a little more witty and interesting. We鈥檝e heard from the ignorant, pissed-off meat-eater about a million times already. You could at least try to impersonate someone who doesn鈥檛 think books are for propping up wobbly tables. Thank you.|||Nah, it's not because you're 'vegan' [though you wish you really was deep within], it's because you're a natural born meat-sucker. You may go back to your kind. I'm pretty sure your friends will post in here too in your defense.|||cliff i doubt eating meat will help, hes trying to avoid being gay.
homosexuality is a sign of a ladyfriend deficiency, you need to increase the amount of female in your diet pronto.|||no. what you eat does not effect what gender you prefer.
stop being a troll and get a life|||The fact that you're gay is making you gay. If a person is gay they're born like that. You can't just 'turn' gay or 'turn' straight. It's not an option. And it doesn't change with your diet.|||This isn't a serious question, so why should I answer it?|||I really don't think it's possible.
But, have you ever considered the possibility that your gayness is turning you into a vegan?|||Sexuality is not determined or influenced by a person's diet.|||obviously it wasnt the lack of meat that made you feel this way.
deep down, you've always liked penis.|||It's not the vegan diet, it's the tofu. Soy is loaded with plant estrogens. You caught teh ghey from tofu.|||so if you are gay then you are gay. who cares what others think.|||no, you're probably just coming to terms that you're gay. your diet doesn't make you gay. there are plenty of gay people that eat meat, a lot of straight people that don't and vice versa.
if you're having a hard time adjusting take a trip over to lgbt (lesbian, gay,bisexual and transgendered) section and they can probably help you out a lot with your confusion.|||It is very possible. This is one of many negative effects that vegans experience. Save yourself before it's too late and eat meat!|||Yes It happened to me also. I am fully gay now. Not only does being a vegan make me gay but It makes me smarter than everyone else. Now I can push my beliefs onto others and make them think and eat just like I do. Other people shouldn't have a right to eat meat. I will force them not to because I am right and they are wrong.|||maybe, especially if you have been eating a lot of soy. all the estrogen in the soy may be messing with your hormones.|||Soy has lots of estrogen in it, so if you've been eating a lot of it, that may be why. You may also be experiencing meat withdrawal, which sometimes happens to people who can't be vegan because their body just isn't built that way. Hope this helps!
Oh, and don't listen to people who belittle you, wherever you are.
sorry to sterotpye but im emo, and in my experience many emos are veggies.
thanks peoples
xoxo|||Adam and Eve were vegans and I'm 1000% SURE the EMO sub-culture was not around then.|||I am Vegan, and I love Fall Out Boy... Most of my friends call themselves emo, but if I am completely honest, I have no idea if I would be classified as emo. I know the the term is associated with very expressive and confessional lyrics, I write poetry and prose that is very personal, often deep and quite dark.
Actually that has given me something to think about, "am I emo?"
Also back on topic, not one of my emo friends are vegetarian or vegan, so I am not really sure, interesting thought though.|||No, it's not. They're two different things. Vegetarains and Vegans have been around longer than Emo's have. I'm a goth now, adn I'm a Vegetarain. I know people ho I wouldn't label as anything who are vegetarains, it's just an eating habit, not a part of any "clique" sorry. It does makes sense though that you guys would care about animals thogh, I don't know hy it does, but it just does.|||veg*ns have been around a lot longer that this sub culture.
I know nothing about...emos? And I'm a vegan, who was vegetarian long before that.
I would guess they were not connected. However, many young people at least try vegetarianism, so I can see how it might seem a sub-group of preteens had a high percentage of veggies.|||Not really. Politicians, teachers, "preps", hippies, mothers, fathers, ... anyone in any category you can think of could be a vegetarian either because they love animals or health reasons... or both! If your friends are just doing it to support their Emo fad then they're doing it for the wrong reasons.|||There does seem to be a higher occurrence of vegetarianism in those subcultures. Artists, punks, folks, hardcore, feminists and college students all have higher rates from my own experience. Of course, all this eventually trickles down into scene and emo.|||People are vegetarians mainly because of their love for animals, religion and/or health reasons, sure, but let me assure you that ANY reason for being a vegetarian is a good one!!!
(you just have to be a smart one and get all your nutrients)|||I guess you could say i'm an "emo" (hate stereotypes though..) and i am a vegan and have been for like 3 years. but i have noticed this also lots of "emos" don't eat meat.|||no, i am a vegetarian and i am not emo.|||20 years ago you would be asking the same question about punks.
Sorry, there's no correlation.|||sorry to make you seem like you don't count but, no.
vegetarianism is wide ranged and ancient.|||Vegetarianism has been around for thousands of years. I don't think Buddha or Mahavira were emos.|||wow i dont think it is part of any sub culture lol
people from all walks of life become vegan or veggies lol|||IDK!? Maybe to be healthier... or cuz meat doesnt taste good n e more.
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I've been trying to become vegan but everytime I do it for a few days I get really bad congestion. I'm constantly sniffling and at times can hardly breathe. Then I drink some milk or don't eat and it clears up. What is happening?|||You might be allergic to some food you are eating. You can try eating different foods, one at a time, to see which one it might be.|||No. Night blooming jasmine, ragweed, other plants, flowers and pollen, dairy, sugar, wheat, and all kinds of things you ingest cause congestion. Not veganism.|||Yeah right. Milk is well known phlegm producer. You're full of it (**** not Phlegm)
I've asked this q before but after reading a bk called world peace diet I think I should ask it again cos the author, Dr. Tuttle, suggests that its the 1 way we're gonna end exploitation , pain and misery cos we'll be eliminating them from our diets and , eventually, our world. I'm in agreement with this philosophy and was wondering how others felt about it...|||If people were forced to ge vegan,then no.But if for some odd reason all the people in the world decided to go vegan to have compassion for animals then maybe they would have compassion for eachother.
"We pray on Sundays that we may have light/To guide our footsteps on
the path we tread;/We are sick of war, we don't want to fight,/And yet
we gorge ourselves upon the dead." -George Bernard Shaw
"Vegetarian food leaves a deep impression on our nature. If the whole
world adopts vegetarianism, it can change the destiny of humankind."
-Albert Einstein
"Flesh eating is simply immoral, as it involves the performance of an
act which is contrary to moral feeling: killing. By killing, man
suppresses in himself, unnecessarily, the highest spiritual capacity,
that of sympathy and pity towards living creatures like himself and by
violating his own feelings becomes cruel."
-Leo Tolstoy
"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields." -Leo Tolstoy
"I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals." -Henry Thoreau
"There will never be any peace in the world as long as we eat animals." -Isaac Bashevis Singer
"In all the round world of utopia there is no meat. There used to be. But now we cannot stand the thought of slaughterhouses. And in a population that is all educated and at about the same level of physical refinement, it is practically impossible to find anyone who will hew a dead ox or pig. We never settled the hygienic aspect of meat-eating at all. This other aspect decided us. I can still remember as a boy the rejoicings over the closing of the last slaughterhouse." -H.G. Wells
"Awareness is bad for the meat business. Conscience is bad for the meat business. Sensitivity to life is bad for the meat business. DENIAL, however, the meat business finds indispensable."
-John Robbins
"The earth affords a lavish supply of riches, of innocent foods, and
offers you banquets that involve no bloodshed or slaughter; only beasts
satisfy their hunger with flesh, and not even all of those, because
horses, cattle, and sheep live on grass. As long as men massacre
animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seeds of
murder and pain cannot reap joy and love."
-Pythagoras|||let us join the forces of life angist the forces of death Report Abuse
|||Yes, but answering this question still reminds me I LOVE MEAT|||no, just lots of people who fart a lot!|||I doubt it because then you would have a bunch of grouchy meat lovers going through withdrawal|||Um....short answer, no. It won't bring peace to our planet if everyone quits eating meat. I don't know where these people get these ideas.....but I do know why. How much did you pay for that book??|||why would you think that veganism would end conflict? unless you are assuming we would all be too weak to fight, you know what with osteoporosis afflicting most of us, and noone having a sex drive anymore.
Boy your dream fascist world sure does sound a lot better, dont you think?|||yeah i reckon it probably would! but i doubt that a significant amount of people would ever become vegetarian, let alone vegan, cuz it seems quite hard to find a decent amount of food to eat - thats the only thing thats stopping me from becoming totally vegan! well, that and what my parents would say!!! lol|||That is an insane notion.|||peace for livestock, but not humans
xxx|||peace isn`t what you eat it`s the way you think,eating vegetables doesn`t make people think better, Education is the way forward.|||Certainly not because we would be overrun by the animals we allowed to live by not eating them!! As an aside - have you ever seen/met a happy & healthy looking vegan? They all look as miserable as sh!t and as pale as a stem of blanched celery ( & prob as half interesting!!) Please bear in miond that all of these"bibles" are written from a biaised point of view. As a further aside - a quote from "Hair" the musical - "Fighting for peace is like F***ing for virginity" - think about it!!!|||Dont talk wet.|||heck no. Too many omnivores are closed minded to the whole concept. The controversy between omnivores and herbivors is one of the most heated debates. Too many people are set in their ways, and refuse to even open their minds to the FACTS about why many of us choose this lifestyle. It would certainly be a great start though, but won't ever happen.|||I totally agree........ THERE'S ENOUGH VIOLENCE...... IN THE WORLD..... GO VEGETARIAN........|||It won't be enough on it's own as some of the grievances people have with each other are too old and run too deep.
It won't hurt though.|||People would be healthier and happier. In answer to Frank meat inhibits libido and fruit and veg makes you more fruity. I find vegetarians and vegans are more peaceful types. Look at the aggression from some of the meat eaters on here !|||NO, as long as the human race exists there will be war and violence.|||Look, I can see you are serious. But Doctor Tuttle? Come on! Exploitation, pain and misery etc etc etc are not about diet. It's all about man being programmed to survive as a unit regardless of ANYTHING else.
We have that in common with the all living things, sentient or not.|||Unfortunately this is a myth, while it sounds good to me too, you might be surprised to learn that Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian. "According to historian Colin Spencer, Hitler wanted to be set apart from other people, to feel superior to meat eaters. He also was greatly influenced by the vegetarianism of his hero, the German composer Richard Wagner....After the war (WW2), vegetarianism literature stopped making claim that eating meat led to aggression and that wars could be ended if people stopped slaughtering animals for food. The idea of the vegetarian as pacifist and humanist, embodied in a figure such as Gandhi, was put aside after the revelation that Hitler was a vegetarian."
Though honestly this should not discourage the thought that peace could be achieved though the implement of a vegetarian diet. We cannot seriously allow the life of a man whose mental state is indeed questionable to discourage possibly the best mark we could make on the face of this planet.|||never|||Yes. We would all be too weak to wage war on one another...
I need to lose alot of wieght. I take b complex & fish oil pills, which i heard will help me lose some wieght. I'm a vegetarian now, considering becoming a vegan. If i become one will that be a quick way to get the wieght off also? Any other tips are very appreciated! Sincerely Jen.|||There is no diet that will make you lose weight, magically!
You need to put a diet plan together getting all the correct nutrients and counting the calories.
Exercise is the most important of all.|||Well, in my case going vegetarian gave me a better concentration on what I was eating, and so it also promoted portion control, calorie count, and nutrient balances as well as needed exercise to stay healthy. I went vegetarian in July of last year and I weighed 198 lbs. Today, I weigh 134 lbs.
A vegetarian or vegan diet alone won't make you lose weight, but it is one step to more focused and healthy diet plan perhaps.|||I'm 5'5", when I became vegetarian, I stayed at about 130 lbs. I'm vegan now, and am at about 126 lbs. without attempting to control my weight.
What I mean is, you will probably not sink below a normal weight eating only vegan/vegetarian foods unless you do something extra, which is a good thing :)
It's not really a weight loss diet so much as a reach a healthy weight diet. I mean I'm not really skinny, just normal.|||I'm 5'5 1/2' and I weighed 133 before Vegetarian. I went vegetarian(lacto-ovo) and dropped to 110. Then I went vegan and I dropped to 106-108(I bounce back in forth) I, technically, am underweight, but my doctor said I was extremely healthy and to keep it up, but if i drop below 100, i need to come back to see what's going on. So, I guess you can drop weight... but you must do it in a healthy way. Exercise and eat properly. Don't become a vegetarian and eat nasty junk food ****... Be as healthy as possible. And after a few weeks of it, I recommend getting a blood test to see if you're getting all your nutrients. Good Luck!|||It depends on what you're eating. Vegans who are eating healthy foods and eating moderately throughout the day have a better chance of losing weight rather than a vegan who eats soy ice cream and potato chips all day.
Follow the vegan food pyramid: http://www.chooseveg.com/vegan-food-pyra鈥?/a>
Make sure you eat a variety of beans, nuts/seeds, fruits, vegetables, and grains (rice, cereal, bread, ect). Aim for 1200-1500 calories a day and do some moderate exercises, and you should easily lose some weight.|||i dont know about quick or a lot but you might lose some weight from not eating as much meat but as long as you maintain a healthy diet... fuits, vegetables, eggs(look up healthy foods). and make sure you get enough protein cause you wont be eating meat which is where you usually get it from.
good luck.! but please dont lose too much weight too quickly, its not healthy. and dont stop eating or go on any ridiculous diet plan, thats definitely not healthy either!
try exercising.!|||No, YOU will make you lose weight.
Vegetarian diets are not weight loss diets, nor are vegan diets.
You can pig out on pizza and fries and chips and chocolate and junk food all day long on those diets.
The only way to lose weight is to eat less.|||Nope, vegans and vegetarians can eat pretty unhealthy food if they want to. Plus, I have never heard of B complex and fish oil helping you lose weight. Bottom line to lose calories in need to be less than calories burned.|||Eating vegan won't help you lose weight on its own. Fewer calories and more exercise is the simplest formula for weight loss.|||my 16 yr old son became a vegan 2 weeks ago and has lost 8 lbs. I've gained 3. Go figure.|||depends what U eat - my friend became a vegetarian & put on a lot of weight
i need facts about vegan-ism and a brief history and background. i just cant find any sites that are about vegan ism and not just about animal cruelty. help a girl out??|||http://www.vegansociety.com/about/histor鈥?/a>
http://www.vegan.org/about_veganism/heal鈥?/a>
http://www.vegan.org/about_veganism/envi鈥?/a>
Although all these sites have sections on animal cruelty, they also cover the subjects that you're interested in, i.e. history, health and the environment. The links take you to those pages.|||http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism|||This http://www.vegansociety.com/ is a pretty good place to start
I asked this question earlier... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;鈥?/a> .. and one answerer said I have made a mistake by going straight from omni to vegan within a short space of time and that is the reason I am ill. Every fibre of my being thinks that this is nonsense.. but it did worry me a little.
Thanks|||It is nonsense, unless you perhaps haven't been eating particularly healthy since going vegan. I guess there could be a slight chance that some of it is an allergic reaction to some new food that you've introduced into your diet. Maybe soy? Soy is in a lot of things, but there's a difference between trace amounts in a food & eating a full serving of tofu or a glass of soy milk. But really, it just sounds like you happened to get sick. With most minor communicable diseases like that, you actually contract it a week or two before you start showing symptoms anyway. So that would've been while you were still omni. Veganism will *strengthen* your immune system as long as you're eating a well-balanced diet.|||As long as you're healthy and take care to get all the nutrients you need, it shouldn't hurt you to go straight from omni to veganism. Just remember that you can't replace the meat in your diet with lettuce and expect to be healthy. Meat, beef especially, is one of the most nutrient dense foods you can eat. While veggies contain most (not B12) nutrients you need, some of them are not as easy for your body to absorb as the same nutrient from meat. So you must eat more of that particular thing. Like iron. Beef contains heme iron. Your body absorbs about 80% of the heme iron from beef. Spinach contains lots of iron, but it's non-heme iron. You'd need to eat about seven cups of spinach to get the same iron benefits as from 3 oz of beef. Or you can mix the non-heme veggies with other stuff to help you absorb the non-heme iron. Or take pills and eat pretend meat. But making the change directly shouldn't hurt you, as long as you're healthy otherwise.
Remember, too, that most food borne illnesses come from fresh or raw vegetables. Good luck....|||Plus, you are only vegan for a short time, not a cause of your illness.
On the other hand, many people do purge, that is, just as a smoker who quits smoking suddenly becomes ill and the body starts spewing out all sorts of gunk, the same often happens with the switch to a healthier diet.|||What? Was he saying that you need to go from eating meat to a vegetarian to a vegan?
News flash to that guy, vegetarians are still eating from animals therefore they're still on an omni diet. Vegans are on a herbivore diet...there's nothing to worry about people just get ill sometimes.|||It IS possible that your body was adjusting to the new diet (immune systems can be tricky) but it's ALSO possible that you simply got a bad cold. Why does the reason matter so much to you? As long as you know how to take care of yourself as a vegan, you will be fine. People get sick, it happens.|||All I can say is that I transitioned overnight as well, and I didn't get sick.
I don't understand the "gradual" approach....
"Hey, I know now that animals are tortured for my food, their flesh and byproducts are extremely unhealthy for me, but...I'm gonna keep eating it anyway"?
It makes no sense!|||I went straight from omni to vegan with no transition period, and I am just fine. Plenty of people do it this way. I really don't see how it could be the cause of your illness. Its probably just coincidence.|||I simply can't see how going vegan would give you a cold. The most I would expect would be maybe a handful of headaches or a late cycle as your body adjusts.|||Its not a big deal. Going straight to veganism is fine.|||It's entirely possible that you could have gotten ill if you didn't transition well. Remember that you don't need specific foods, but nutrients. Nutrients that you got from meat aren't always as abundant/accessible in plant foods. The amino acids come in different proportions, the iron is non-heme, etc. You probably started eating less fat, whether you meant to or not. The bottom line is that it's a huge change, and even with careful planning, your nutrient intake probably changed a bit. This doesn't mean that you are necessarily deficient, but it could mean that you are running on less or more of a nutrient than you are used to, or that your body is reacting to the foods that you're eating. (One notable example is beans. They often cause people to get bloaty and gassy when consumed in large quantities. It could be that you have a mild sensitivity or intolerance to a food that you didn't notice before because you weren't eating much of it... is there anything that you never ate before that you're eating daily now?)
Going slowly isn't so much about letting your body adjust to the new nutrient sources as it is about letting yourself adjust to the new way of eating. Many people find too many changes at once overwhelming and will wind up eating poorly because they are taking on too much at once. (It's for this reason that most people don't suggest taking on a new diet/fitness routine while you are moving, divorcing, or otherwise in upheaval... it can be "too much" for some people.)
If you are sure that you are getting all of your nutrients, then your diet isn't to blame. It could be a coincidence, as some people said. Maybe it's the changing of the seasons. Maybe you are under more stress at work. Who knows?
I'd suggest keeping a food diary for a few days just to see what you're eating. Double-check.
Higher|||While merely switching from a diet including meat to a Vegetarian or Vegan diet does not change your IQ, it's been found that people who make the decision to live a Vegetarian or Vegan lifestyle tend to have a higher IQ. There is no difference in IQ from Vegetarians to Vegans, however.
The reason why, in general, Veg*ns have a higher IQ than Omnivore is not the diet itself, but the fact that Vegetarians and Vegans have made a decision outside of what is considered "normal" by modern society. Veg*n diets are not widely accepted in today's society, and it has been shown that those who are able to make decisions different than those around them typically have a higher IQ. For example, an Atheist would likely have a higher IQ than a person of faith, simply because religion plays a huge role in the world today and, generally speaking, Atheism is considered taboo. Democrats would also likely have higher IQs, etc. This is not to say that this is the case with every Veg*an, and in either case, the difference is slight (usually between 4-12 points).
: )|||Since I have no data, I can't definitively say either way.
My experience suggests vegans (long-time vegans, that is) tend to be very well-educated. Still, the majority of well-educated people eat meat, so...
I'm not trying to brag. I'm just admitting my I.Q. Is 152. My husband is a meat-eater, and his I.Q. Is 148, so...
I will say that long-time vegans also tend to be extremely well-educated about nutrition and food processing practices.|||Neither, intelligence has nothing to do with it. Everyone regardless of intelligence, makes choices in how they wish to live their life and being a vegetarian or a vegan is nothing more than choice.|||I don't see it like a thing that has to do with intelligence. It's just a lifestyle choice. And meat eaters can be smart, or stupid. And so can vegans. It has to do more with the specific person, rather than what they eat.|||Neither.
Are you intelligent enough to realize that only vegans will say higher, and that only non-vegans will say lower?|||You don't become more or less intelligent, but when i became vegan i got more energy and i was able to pay more attention in school so i did better.|||Neither, but I do equate a lower intelligence from a person that asks a question like this.|||What would one have to do with the other? Food choices have nothing to do with intelligence.|||Neither? wtf|||Neither? I just see it as a lifestyle choice.
I'm a vegetarian right now (2 weeks woo!) and I'm wondering whether or not to go vegan next year once i'm a freshman in college and I can buy my own food. But what I'm concerned about is whether or not it would be really healthy for me or not? I love animals and I want to go vegan, but I don't want to pop 10 vitamins a day you know?|||Not at all. Vegans get zero Vitamin B12 from their diets.
Meat is very healthy, especially red meat.|||Well vegetables contain every thing one needs and beans, peas, chickpeas, lentils have protein that one get from meat or fish and since vegetables have less calories one is less likely to gain weight. You may want to visit http://meatlessusa.com for info about food. Thank you.|||Western society has been conditioned to beleive meat and dairy is a normal part of a diet (a lot of animals eat neither), and that without it, something's missing. Reality is, plants are the original, natural food. Meat ultamately comes from plants, and sub-tropical humans only started eating meat during the ice age when plants were scarce.
Our primate cousins are herbivores. They do fine because plant-diets are nature's design.
Two years ago, I took my education futher, went raw and realized the limitation of supplements - so I quit them. With local small-farm ripe fruit and veg, I now get a balance of ALL nutrients (not just the ones that sup makers know of)
1. Science shows humans need 35 grams of protein a day......7% of a 2000 calorie diet. Nature made it near-imposible to be deficient in a nutrient as important as protein.
2. anemia. iron originates from the dirt. Then plants absorb it.
3. B12 comes from bacteria, which is on wild, un-washed plants, and even in the air we breathe.|||vegans and heavy meat eaters have the same mortality ratio which is lower than ovo-lacto vegetarian and pescatarians.|||According to the American Dietetic Association, very
The lies and distortion of facts by Cliff et al, would be laughable, if they weren't so pitiful|||It will be a stressful time for you. You might want to wait a while to make the switch. Please, please understand that you can NOT get B12 on a straight plant based diet. You must eat animal products, eggs, meat, milk to get B12 or take a pill. It is available in fortified foods, but it's hard to gauge how much you're getting. Don't take this omni's word for it. Look at these veg links for the facts on B12:
http://www.veghealthguide.com/vitamins-m鈥?/a>
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/ever鈥?/a>|||very i've been vegan for 3 days and in those 3 days i lost 10 pounds of fat. Lost 250 calories so really|||According to the American Dietetics Association A well planned Vegan diet can be healthful for humans of any age group and may prevent many diseases. Do your research and you will find reputable places like the American Heart Association, American Cancer Society and others that are not vegan sites at all that agree with that. B12 is in many fortified products and as long as you eat those products you will be find with that.|||There is no health advantages of being a vegan. A poorly planned vegan diet can lack nutrients.
Nutrient deficiencies are most common with an vegetarian or vegan diet. The American Dietetic Association position paper on vegetarian diets identifies several nutrients that can be inadequate in poorly planned vegetarian diets. These include protein, iron, zinc, calcium, iodine, vitamins A, D, B-2 and B-12, and omega-3 fatty acids. There are consequences of these nutrient deficiencies. Deficient intake of protein can stunt normal growth, impair immune function and affect a multitude of body functions. In particular, protein is needed for normal bone development. When both protein and calcium are low in the diet, the risk of developing early osteoporosis is greatly increased.
Iron deficiency is extremely common. Even without the extreme state of anemia, low iron status can reduce physical endurance, impair immune response, disrupt temperature regulation, affect overall energy metabolism, decrease cognitive function and lead to behavioral disturbances.
It is well known that inadequate iron intake during childhood impairs mental function and academic achievement, but it also affects young adults. In a recent study with more than 100 women age 18 to 35, normalization of iron status improved testing scores of attention, memory and learning ability by an amazing five to seven times more than women with low iron status.
Like iron deficiency, vitamin deficiencies can affect brain function and cause a multitude of other health problems. Without a source of fish oils in the diet, omega-3 fatty acid deficiency is more likely to develop over time. Although this could take years, omega-3 deficiency can impair vision and brain function.|||i guess it could be good and bad.
good because your not eating food that has all these chemicals in it.
bad because it might take you body a while to adjust to the change and you can
get really bad head aches :[
i've been veggie for 2 months and the 1st month i have hade extreme head aches :[|||Vegan is NOT healthy, but a vegetarian is somewhat healthier than being vegan.
I read in a very unreliable Texas guide book that it is illegal to be a vegetarian there because it means you don't contribute to the largest industry in Texas. Every police officer and government official I talked to said it was bogus, but it got me thinking: what if there ARE some places, either in the United States, where you are legally obligated to eat meat or be charged as a criminal?|||I don't think there are any laws about what kind of diet you can or cannot follow, but there are laws regarding the nutrition of minors. Parents who have extreme dietary habits who force these habits on their children are responsible for their childrens' health - if the dietery practices of the parents do not fulfill the nutritional needs of the children, they can be charged with neglect and/or even abuse.|||The land of Veggie Tales.|||Of course it's bogus, it's absurd. How could one be FORCED to eat animal/meat products?|||That's total bs. That law would be unconstitutional.
The Smiths "Meat is Murder" : D
love the lyrics to that song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xacRTqk5Q鈥?/a>|||I was just searching through youtube and they are all awful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG4gkEuXZl4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wdKtgLfa8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1k5Q9UKYiw|||Hi Lucy H
John Feldman (Goldfinger) - "Free Me"|||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKtrqgxVs鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQglgB3Xj鈥?/a>|||Dead-Eye Dick's "New Age Girl" is the only one I can think of. lol
Doing a research paper on Animal testing leading to a vegetarian or vegan life style|||If what you read/saw about the specific techniques of animal testing and they upset you enough, it could lead you to turn to a vegetarian/vegan diet.|||If yo are talking abut yourself, then that would really be up to you. For others, it could but mostly no. The scientists themselves who work on animals do a lot of research papers including the practice of animal testing itself and they are for the most part not vegetarians and definitely not vegans. Animal testing has been around for a very, very long time and yet vegetarians and vegans because of animal rights (and testing) remain very much the minority in all societies;.|||Well there are some who believe that any interaction with animals on the grounds for research is offensive. Whether that was the cause of their reverting to Vegan-ism is purely and individuals choice.
You would have to consult surveys that address this. Most Vegans/Vegetarians follow dietary modification based on:
Veganism is the practice of eliminating the use by human beings, of animal products. Ethical vegans reject the commodity status of animals and the use of animal products for any purpose, while dietary vegans or strict vegetarians eliminate them from the diet only|||some say that learning about what it takes to do animal testing made them vegan
personally I am vegetarian and have been from eternity and am not sure?
did not make me want to eat animal. getting away from meat should be a health issue and not so much a testing issue.
eat meat if you like but become a vegetarian for health reasons because vegetables and protein are all available in food
Protein = grains + beans if you eat a wide variety of the mixture then you will be healthy without meat.|||Do you mean when someone want to become vegan because they do not want to support animal testing? You really have to know and be aware of what products you consume to make sure no animal testing has been involved.|||Uh...do you mean "OBJECTION to animal testing"?|||It sure has not affected me.
i know i already asked this, but it accidently went in the wrong section. thanks :)|||There is "Living Among the Meat Eaters: The Vegetarian's Survival Handbook," which helps a vegetarian/vegan deal in a wold of family, friends and strangers giving rude, and flawed attacks on your lifestyle. (This helps at what seems to be a very big topic on this forum.) It also has recipes. It is a very calm and compassionate book with chapters such as:
Are You at Peace
Judgment, Guilt and Anger,
Sabotage and other Meat Eating Defenses
Love at work- Living with the Meat Eaters
Grace at Work- Eating with the Meat Eaters
Being the Mover, Not the Moved
Another crazy, amazing book is "The Pornography of Meat." I was stunned when I read that book. It has wonderful pictures and shows/explains the similarities and history of how our culture treats women/meat, including how we (literally or figuratively) cut each up so we see only pieces and parts we can consume, as opposed to whole beings.
Finally, I would suggest "Vegan Freak: Being Vegan in a Non-Vegan world." It is a very interesting read, but do not feel discouraged if you do not/ cannot live up to their ideals. As you know, being Vegan is a process, but being 100% Vegan is impossible. It even has a chapter on how to deal with vegetarians, and a list of vegan and non-vegan things, e.g. mono-diglicerides= not vegan.|||Thanks Bojangles. I hope you like them.
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|||"Going Vegan" by Linda Blair is a very good book!! http://www.lindablair.com/shop.htm|||If you are already vegan or trying to I would suggest ordering the book at this website http://veganfreak.com/index.php?s=toc . These guys are great.
I started with The Vegan Source book http://www.amazon.com/Vegan-Sourcebook-J鈥?/a> .
This page
http://www.vegan.org/resources/reading/i鈥?/a>
has some good books on veganism under the General Info section.
Good Luck. Go vegan and never stop becoming vegan :)|||Look at your local libaray.. then you can look a books with out cost.|||101 Reasons Why I'm A Vegetarian by Pamela Rice.
http://www.amazon.com/101-Reasons-Why-Im鈥?/a>
She's a very interesting person.
Hope that Helps, :-)|||How it all Vegan by Tanya Barnard|||I like Laurel's Kitchen.|||"Vegan With a Vengence" by Isa Chandra Moskowitz. Its my fav! Check out the reviews at http://www.amazon.com|||la dolce vegan i think is the title.|||John Robbins Diet for A New America
Diet For A Small Planet
Fast Food Nation
Tht's all I can think of right now|||As a librarian I would suggest that you go to your local library and check out some books-this way you can decide what books you would actually like to buy.
These are books that I checked out at my library
Vegan and Vegeterian FAQ
101 reasons why Im vegeterian (has vegan info)
For recipes and info:
Vegan Planet (400 recipes)
Vegan Vengeance
Voluptuous Vegan
Garden of Vegan
Healthy Hedonist
Gary Null's power foods
My friend wants to become a vegan but I told her that she shouldn't because she won't get any of the good foods she needs, but she disagrees. I'm not seriously worried about her healthy, I just wanna kind of prove a point. So can you tell me anything about veganism??
Any tips or info about it will be great, thanks! :)|||Vegan_mom nailed it. I've been a vegetarian or vegan most of my life and I'm healthy. The American Dietetic Association stated, "It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and
Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets
are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits
in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."
"Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are
appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during
pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence."
http://eatright.org/ada/files/veg.pdf
She should learn a bit about good nutrition and eat right. Vegan Outreach has a guide http://www.veganoutreach.org/guide/ which includes detailed information on nutrition from a vegan registered dietitian under the 'staying healthy' section.
Here's some info from the American Heart Association http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.j鈥?/a>
From the Mayo Clinic http://mayoclinic.com/health/vegetarian-鈥?/a>
From the US Department of Agriculture http://www.mypyramid.gov/tips_resources/鈥?/a>
From the Vegetarian Resource Group http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/vegan.htm|||Vegetables and fruit, raw nuts and seeds, and sprouts can provide all of the nutrition that a person needs. The important thing is to have a varied diet of nutritious foods (as opposed to a junk food diet of foods that have no animal products, but yet have little nutritional value, such as most cakes, cookies, candies, ice creams, etc.)
A successful vegan diet is much more easily managed if one is willing to prepare one's own food, as opposed to depending on purchasing prepared and packaged, processed foods.|||"Good" is a relative term. I am currently munching on cauliflower that I think is good and my body needs it.
However, from what I comprehend from your question, you are asking this to further your own agenda, not out of concern and love for your friend.
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm鈥?/a>
http://www.happycow.net/vegetarian_prote鈥?/a>
http://chooseveg.com|||why do people worry so much about vegans being unhealthy? any diet can be unhealthy if one dosent eat right, and the vegan diet is actually pretty much all healthy because your not placing the high fats in your body like animal products have in them. and you do need to consider most people dont become vegan for health reasons, some people do it for animal rights.|||If done correctly you can be very healthy, and you do not cause nearly as much harm to other sentential being as an average person.
It's overall a great philosophy to live by, but make sure she does a lot of research on how to stay health. Buy her a book or two if you are concerned. Here is a pretty good one- http://books.google.com/books?id=R7FRvTy鈥?/a>
I understand how you may be worried, but it really is a great life stlye, but i can not stress how important it is to do it correctly, so she stays healthy.|||People think vegetarians and vegans make their life ten times harder by choosing not to eat meat. it can actually be so simple. you dont even have to cook. i dont like to go into all those recipes because for one i dont have the money and for two no time, and i honestly think its not necessary. all she needs to eat is fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, and bread. its a simple lifestyle that you can live. sometimes for lunch i eat a slice of bread and a fruit bowl. it cant get any harder than that. of course you need to watch your vitamin intake, but its really not as complicated as people make it seem.|||Why don't you inform yourself a bit? You found Yahoo Answers, so, it shouldn't be hard to google a few more pages.
My entire family is vegan for many years and we couldn't be healthier.
I like that you don't worry about your friend's health, but are a nasty person who insists on being right. What a friend!
So, why don't you simply move on and let other people decide what is good for them?|||She disagrees with you as you are simply wrong.
Please do your research and you will discover that, with very little care, a vegan diet is balanced and contains a good balance of nutrients.
There is plenty to read in the links, above|||I admire your friend anybody who decides to stop eating animals can feel pretty good about themselves. Animals feel pain and fear just as we do when there is so much food to enjoy these days why kill something just because you like the taste, live and let live|||It doesn't matter if you're vegan, vegetarian or neither. There are ways to get all of the nutrients you need as long as you eat the proper foods.|||Eating meat is a perfectly natural, or else we wouldn't have canine teeth. Maybe she should just only eat white meats instead of reds. Red meat is harder to digest. Plus poultry animals are retarded anyways.|||Veganism is healthy. You get more vitamins than those who eat meat. It is a noble lifestyle|||"For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love."鈥犅犅犅?聽聽聽 Pythagoras, mathematician
聽聽聽 "The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."
聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽 Leonardo da Vinci, artist and scientist
聽聽聽 "To a man whose mind is free there is something even more intolerable in the sufferings of animals than in the sufferings of man. For with the latter it is at least admitted that suffering is evil and that the man who causes it is a criminal. But thousands of animals are uselessly butchered every day without a shadow of remorse. If any man were to refer to it, he would be thought ridiculous. And that is the unpardonable crime."
聽聽聽聽聽聽聽 Romain Rolland, author, Nobel Prize 1915
聽聽聽 "If a group of beings from another planet were to land on Earth -- beings who considered themselves as superior to you as you feel yourself to be to other animals -- would you concede them the rights over you that you assume over other animals?"
聽聽 聽聽聽聽聽聽 George Bernard Shaw, playwright, Nobel Prize 1925
聽聽聽 "What is it that should trace the insuperable line? ...The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?"鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅?Jeremy Bentham, philosopher鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought."鈥犅?聽聽聽聽聽聽 Isaac Bashevis Singer, author, Nobel Prize 1978鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"Our task must be to free ourselves . . . by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty."鈥犅犅?"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances of survival for life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."鈥犅犅犅犅?聽 聽 Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel Prize 1921鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being."鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅犅犅?Abraham Lincoln, 16th U.S. President鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity."鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅?聽聽Ralph Waldo Emerson, essayist鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields."鈥犅?"What I think about vivisection is that if people admit that they have the right to take or endanger the life of living beings for the benefit of many, there will be no limit to their cruelty."鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅?聽聽Leo Tolstoy author鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"I cannot fish without falling a little in self-respect...always when I have done I feel it would have been better if I had not fished."鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅?聽 Henry David Thoreau, author鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal conditions on this earth?"鈥犅?"Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are called medical research."鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅?聽 George Bernard Shaw鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."鈥犅犅?"To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being."鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅?Mahatma Gandhi, statesman and philosopher鈥ㄢ€犅犅?"I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't...The pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further."鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅?聽 Mark Twain, author鈥ㄢ€犅犅犅?"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."鈥犅犅犅犅犅犅?Thomas Edison, inventor鈥?br>
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Last modified: Sat Sep 23 14:56:59 CDT 2000|||i understand why people want to do it however i myself dont think i would be able to do it for more than a week tops.
it can be difficult to get the balance right. she may be very ill whilst converting because her body wonmt be used to it an her energy levels will change a lot to get used to it.
People with eating disorders will use any reason they can think of to avoid eating. That includes some saying they are vegetarian or vegan in order to explain away why they don't eat much. This is based on the common but wrong stereotype that vegetarians or vegans are always thin.
Eating disorders are mental disorders and do not really have anything to do with eating itself.|||Definitely. I think there's a lot of ignorance about vegetarianism/veganism diets- mostly people thinking that people who choose to eat this way become pale, thin, unhealthy looking and anaemic so I suppose in that way it could be a useful cover story. It also means that there are a lot of foods you can get out of eating, things like burgers and hotdogs that are often eaten in a social setting (like at McD's or at sports things etc), as well as a lot of sweet things because that person could claim there was gelatin in them, and you can play on the general ignorance I mentioned by saying cheese might not be veggie etc. I think (I know) as well that people with eating disorders adopt veggie eating because it's another way to control what they will and won't eat and because the 'least feared' ie safest foods are things like salads and raw veg. It's just a handy smoke-screen for a lot of different things.|||It depends on the food this person eats. I used to have an eating disorder and met many girls who used vegetarianism and veganism as a reason not to eat food. One girl said she was vegan in a hospital so she wouldn't have to eat alfredo sauce.
Very very thin girls who claim to be vegans, yet do not take the time to plan their diet to contain proper and complete proteins very well could have a disorder.
My sister does not have an eating disorder and was a vegetarian for awhile. She actually gained weight on a vegetarian diet. To replace meat (which can be healthy and filling like chicken breast, turkey, trimmed red meats) she would eat dishes with lots of different cheeses, creams, eggs, which are all high in fat. I think that may be off topic, but not all vege/vegans are thin.
If someone only eats salads with fat free dressing, limited carbs, and no source of fat whatsoever (avocado, beans, nuts, seeds, breads, oil) with anything could have a disorder.|||Well, with 2 million americans being super morbidly obese ( greater than 40 stone ) I think the meat-eating community are also doing a pretty good job of creating eating disorders too
Yes, i'm sure there are some people who blame thier veggie diet for a loss of weight, restricting thier diet etc
But, like i say, i think the meat-eating community has more than thier share of similar problems, creating excuses is not the preserve of vegetarians|||Last time I answered a question like this, I got lambasted by some Vegan. I consider it more of a lifestyle change or a religion than a disorder.
Religion, if you take it too far and push it upon other people. Most just do it because they want to.
Me, give me my meat.
add-my step daughter is deathly allergic to any dairy and has been all her life. But, my nieces are not. When they met my step daughter, both girls became "allergic" to get some sympathy from the family. It was a pathetic attempt at attention and it didn't work.|||I know someone who said they were vegan but were actually anorexic. She didn't eat anything in front of me (that's not veganism, that's nothingism!), and I heard that she ate cheese (so not a real vegan anyway). She has had help now.|||I'm sure some do, since it can get them out of eating certain foods without raising suspicion.
Generally, eating disordered people tend to do many creative and irrational things so they can continue doing what they're doing.|||Just like they use "dieting" or "watching food intake" as fronts for eating disorders, sure.|||My mum used to work in a bullemic/annorexic clinic years ago and apparently a lot of the females there with eating disorders decided to go raw vegan. No idea if it worked out for them|||Yes - if they feel they are to fat all the time, they might use vegan diet to try to lose another 5 pounds, when they are not really overweight to begin with.
Yes anything is possible.
Good Luck!|||Some some people do. Just read between the lines on this forum and you will see a few of them. I always wonder when I see posts like. "how much weight will I loose if I become a vegan?"|||how is eating healthy vegetables considered an eating disorder???
consuming dead animal flesh , now that is a disorder....|||I'm sure there is at least one case of someone doing it, yes.
People who have bad habits/disorders create excuses (knowingly or otherwise).|||It certainly is something to think about. I'd rather indulge in a good ole fashion frequent exercise program, myself, 'n work off those excess calories.|||Sometimes people might do that, like saying they only eat carrot sticks all day because they're a vegetarian.|||Yes some do.....others say they have allergies.....or stomach ache.....people with eating disorders lie to cover their tracks......|||no the two are completely unrelated|||NO I DON'T|||Definitely, some people use them to shut off foods. I don't know how common this is though.|||No.|||No|||ya i think so.|||I don't think they do. I know it as a matter of fact. My mother is a psychiatrist and she says that most of the eating disorder cases she deals with, the person lies about being vegan or vegetarian to explain their unhealthiness.
I also regularly see people asking question in this section who are vegetarian, or vegan about an eating disorder they have. So it's not always a front, sometimes it is a real thing.
Why do vegans get so offended when people call groups like the Animal Liberation front and PETA terrorists when ALF is officially a terrorist group according to the US and PETA has been found guilty of funded their operatives?|||Well for one since we know PeTA funds ALF that's makes them just as guilty. I eat meat and I support people's rights to wear their fur coats, leather & a lot of fur products.|||its crazy isnt it? people will kill you to save something else in their own mind its right. I dont see the logic in it. they are called fanatics.|||If they really perform terrorist acts, as a vegan I personally don't think it is right. If they don't perform terrorist acts, it will be unfair to label them as so.|||Im not a peta member, but I do wonder why its so easy for certian people to assume everything they say is propaganda, and go on to believe alot of the propaganda thats out there against them.
It goes both ways really. Some things are true, some things are not. As goes many things in life.
Im more interested in knowing why you are so obsessed with a vegan lifestyle, if you have no real interest in learning about it. There could be so much more productive things you could spend your time doing.|||In the words of a good friend of mine while watching me break a 2 by 4 with my fist "Man you need to Calm Down" You got nothing on KatieG...|||ok im a vegetarian and i admit the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) is a terrorist organization.. however in my opinion PETA has done more good than bad for animals|||Was Hitler a vegan or a vegetarian, might be something said about the groups.
I'm not Vegan, I am vegetarian and have been for ten years or so. And I feel great! What are your views on Veganism?
(If you are Vegan, you MUST take a supplement because Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D are ABSENT in plant foods. You may need to take an iron supplement. Ask your GP.)|||I think whatever your personal beliefs on the subject is great for you.... have you ever stopped to consider how multi-vitamins are made? Have you ever considered that if you have to take supplements to stay healthy, then isn't something therefore lacking in your diet that your body needs? If that is the case then why leave that out of your diet when your body needs certain vitamins and minerals that a vegan diet can't give you? I don't think any diet that could possibly put your health at risk is good for anyone.|||It has 0 effect on my life, so I honestly could care less. If it makes the person happy, vegan it up! More steak and milk for me :)|||Well I'm neither but whatever. Sometimes I may inquire about certain things on here from time to time and question the reason why they don't eat meat but ultimately I guess I've gotta respect their decision.|||Veganism is terrific, as long as you focus on the produce aisle more than the frozen foods. A variety of organic fruits, vegetables and raw nuts and seeds can satisfy all dietary needs.
Your nutritional advice is erroneous, and asking a GP is unlikely to help- nutrition is not a required course in medical school, and most doctors do not take it.|||I went vegan several months ago after being vegetarian for over 20 years. I have been so happy with my decision. I'm cooking more out of necessity and eating better than I have in my life, in terms of variety, taste and healthfulness.
I do supplement B12, but my vitamin D levels are fine between fortified foods and sunshine. I've teetered on the brink of mild iron deficiency my entire life (even as a meat eater) but it's not any worse now than it was then; I do take a small amount of supplemental iron daily.|||It's not the life for me, but I think if you can live and be healthy then why not?|||Scottie,
B12 is NOT absent in plant food. Its available in many plant foods but not in useful concentrations for the amount of each product we want to eat. Some vegans do take plant based b.12 supplements, some don't....its not as clear cut as your MUST / ABSENT comment
This site has FACTS about B.12 should you wish to learn:
http://www.vegsoc.org/info/b12.html
The site describes the re-absorption, quantity stored in the body and atrition rate.
It also discusses nomadic vegan groups in Iran who live perfectly happilly without supplements, i don't suppose ANY of them have ever seen a GP, let alone asked them about it.
Your tone seems like you think your diet is right and they are wrong - thats not too helpful.
Veganism meet some peoples moral beliefs, just as vegetarianism does.
If vegans started to remind you what happens to dairy cows and egg-laying hens then i think one might wonder why anyone who is veggie for animal welfare reasons would eat dairy. I think taking a plant based b.12 is far more natural than the process we used to get dairy these days
I see dairy and beef farms approx every other day because we visit them to see about rescue Jerseys. The farms I'm talking about here are nationally recognised as being the best in the industry, they have viewing gallaries and consistantly win awards so we are not talking about the average or less, we are talking about the BEST here. And this is UK farms which are recognised as having the best husbandry in the world.
Artificial incemination every year
Cows would naturally calve every 2-3 years. Dairy farms artificially inceminate them every 11 months. This causes excessive stress on the cows body, increses the chance of prolapse and generally "wears them out"
Protein enriched feed
The feed they are given is enriched with artificial growth foods. these are generally made with cattle meat protiens.
Bribe/feed caged carousels
These suck. They are large rotating carousels where the cows are caged in a space where they cannot move. They have "black boxes" on thier legs which communicate with the main operating computer. They are fed just the right amount of food depending on how much milk they gave yesterday. They have added growth food if thier production drops
One person can milk about 400 cattle on a carousel so there is no time for checking the animals health - they just milk them dry and kick them out.
killing bulls, excess calves and free martins at 1 week old
All bulls are killed at 1 week old, although some farms iin the UK started ( in 2006 ) shipping them to Continental Europe for veal again. They do not keep any back for breeding as they bring in new blood lines. In the UK we don't use dairy bull calves for veal anymore in country. They are either killed, or shipped out. Bull calves go to make low quality leather products such as cheap sofas.
They kill all free martins as there is a good chance they will be barren.
Strangly, they feed these animals with colostrum at birth to keep them alive, but then kill them a week later.
excess feeding to produce 60 lites of milk per day
The growth food is all designed to produce excess milk. Cows are naturally designed to produce about 15 litres. The european targets for 2009 are set at 90 litres, i don't think it need me to tell you if this is heading the right or wrong direction.
intensive rearing means low husbandry checks
As mentioned above, most automatic dairies have one milkmaid per session, thats it. I know a dairy farm with 1200 cattle and 3 employees. Tell me how they can ever check the cattle....
removing calves from mothers after colostrum feed
This is stressful, cows bawl for weeks for thier young, calling them to be fed. Obviously the calf cannot "run to mom" because its in dog food by now.
killing the cow at 7 years old
Cows can naturally live to 20 years old. Production dairy cows are killed after 4-6 births so are never kept after 7 years old.|||Gandhi didn't promote veganism....also the b12 is in some veggies but the soil tends to get overworked by plantings for the veggie to have enough b12 in it.|||too hard to go without ice cream AND chocolate
but i'm a vegetarian.|||I take B12 and I go tanning alot so that's how i get my vitamin D haha and I take a multivitamin that doesnt contain bone marrow and stuff...
But I'm vegetarian to and I think veganism is great! I want to go vegan but it's really hard because it costs abit extra and I'm only 15...and i kind of feel bad making my parents spend so much on me, but veganism is actually really healthy in my opinion it cuts out alot of the junk I know you're a guy but there's a book called "skinny *****" and it was written by two women who are now vegan it's really inspiring and helps you get motivated and they have a cook book as well but they don't just talk about ridding yourself of all products that are animal associated but refined, processed and genetically modified foods aswell it really opens your eyes.|||I am vegan and I love it. Giving up cheese was the best thing I could have done.
I take a half or even a quarter of a B complex vitamin every day or so. I eat enough Iron. I don't worry about it much. I am healthy and well researched, so I know what I am doing.
I find it interesting that so many people are concerned with our diet...most Americans get too much meat, salt, sugar...not enough veggies and fruit...whole wheat's. Sure some vegans may go anemic, but how many are having heart problems, diabetes etc.
When I was a vegetarian, I was still supporting factory farming. It started to bother me. So I changed. I think that veganism is great for me. I love it, I feel better in my mind and my body.
EDIT TO ADD: Hey Mia, I have an incredible recipe for cheese cake...it is so good, I feed it to meat eaters and they love it...if you ever go vegan, let me know, I will give you the recipe :)|||I think people put down veganism, due to lack of education and respect. Anything that is different from the masses is considered weird and wrong. Not many main stream media - show positive images of vegetarians or vegans? Instead ty are shown as hippies and jobless and fairy like!
People like to degrade a belief they do not understand.
I recently became a vegan - from a vegetarian, -and its a nice feeling. Actually because I have been eating more fruits and veggies, my body feels cleaner and healthy.
I think you should try it if you want, but if its not for you, just go back to being vegetarain. no big deal!|||I love the idea of becoming a vegan and I toss it around at least once a month. I've been a vegetarian for better than half my life and I love it. But I just can't seem to get wrapped around the whole vegan lifestyle - it's hard enough to be a vegetarian and live in the mid-west. Plus, I love sweets, even though I don't eat them a lot, but the idea of never being able to have a piece of cheese cake again breaks my heart...
As for the vitamin thing, whether you're a vegan, vegetarian or a meat eater you should take a daily vitamin - most people don't eat enough fruit and veggie on a daily basis to get the amount of vitamins and minerals they need.|||For me, I don't think you can really call yourself vegetarian if you're not vegan. I mean what's worse, killing large numbers of animals to feed yourself, or enslaving an entire species, forcing them to breed, live their entire lives overweight, and steal the milk intended for the young that they wouldn't normally have even had?
At least if you kill them, that's some sort of release, and if you don't farm them at all that's even better. I think it's just about the worst form of hypocrisy to be a vegetarian and still have dairy. I would rather it be the other way around (no dairy but still meat).
I do eat meat (and dairy) by the way, but if I were to convert at all, it would either be to help end world hunger (but would only do it if a large group of maybe 100,000+ did it with me at the same time), or I would switch to no dairy and only hunted meat (not farmed in any way) =)|||I think vegetarianism is ok if its done for health reasons and not just to "save some animals," but veganism sounds a little risky. i mean even with vitamins you're missing out on a lot of health benefits. plus there doesnt seem to be any benefits to it.|||They is some fools.|||more meat for me is my view|||I saw a cute bumper sticker the other day . . . Save a cow, eat a Vegan!
I personally don't care if someone is Vegan, just don't push that philosophy on me. I believe God made the animals to provide food and as long as I don't have to kill it, and/or it doesn't look like a dead animal when I eat it I'm ok.
hmm I think veganism is cooler, it's more slow and painful than anorexia!|||If you understood the definition of each, you wouldn't be asking the question.|||eating disorders are way cooler than veganism that way you can still eat meat but then take your laxatives or throw it up or whatever... and by the way anorexia is an eating disorder|||Veganism is a choice, anorexia is not. Go with veganism.|||um Veganism if that is a word (i honestly don't know) is not a eating disorder it's a lifestyle choice to cut meat and other foods from your diet I myself have not chosen this lifestyle and not certain what all foods are included and excluded from the diet, but some cultures have thrived on vegan like diets. anorexia is a disorder where some ones views themselves as being overweight and refuses to eat that's a disorder|||Eating disorders are not cool nor is shitstirring|||veganism is better.....duh........at least you wont die. Although if I had to live without meat and meat products, Id want someone to shoot me.|||Anorexia....why you ask? Because it shows that you have more will power....muahhhhhhahaha.......and since when is any eating disorder cool?
Tell me about changes in your health since you became RAW...
What problems did you encounter on the way (like sensitive teeth for example)
and how did you solve them?
Thanks for sharing...|||health is bad. missing out on a lot of vitamins, and proteins that only raw vegs. don't offer. got sickly and went back to a healthy all foods diet in moderation.|||Raw Veganism had a horrible influence on my life.My stomach hurt so much.I stopped being vegan.
How long does it take to lose a significant amount of weight after transitioning from vegetarianism to veganism?|||Veganism is not a magic "eat all you want and lose weight anyway" diet. Weight loss depends on one thing only - expending more energy than you consume.
The only reason being a vegan might make it easier to lose weight is that there are very few junk foods commercially available to tempt you. If you want to pig out on cookies, for example, you typically have to go and make vegan cookies yourself, whereas a normal vegetarian would only have to crack open a package of Chips Ahoy.
If, however, you like to cook, and are fully capable of devouring an entire batch of cookies at one sitting, the vegan thing may backfire.
The first goal is a balanced, healthy diet (vegan or otherwise). The second goal is getting an appropriate amount of exercise. Once those goals are achieved, only then should one begin to focus on weight loss, if necessary.|||well if you eat lots of sugary stuff you might not lose as much as you hope to|||Well I suppose it depends on alot of things.
If you previously ate alot of high calorie foods like cheese or eggs and have replaced them with beans and tofu there is a pretty huge reduction of fat.
If as a vegan you eat an excessive amount of food or alot of processed vegan foods that are high in calories or if you never exercise you won't see much of a change. But if you eat a whole foods diet and exercise I think you will see some changes pretty quickly.
In the two years I have been vegan I find that it is much easier to maintain my weight than when I was vegetarian. I have stayed at my ideal weight without too much thought by just eating a healthy vegan diet and exercising regularly.
Good Luck!|||My partner just lost 30 pounds over a few months of a vegan diet. He is eating sensibly though, and doesn't over do the oils, fats and carbs.
I wouldn't say he is trying to lose weight, he just is.
It really depends, I've been a vegan for 3 months and I don't think I've lost any weight, this might be because I don't really have much to lose! Where he had a little extra love.....
Veganism isn't a weight lose system, although if you eat properly and healthy you can expect to lose some fat. Salt intake will increase water retention and working out will gain muscle which adds weight....
Really depends.|||UNHEALTHY WEIGHT LOSS|||Normally you will loose about 3 lbs the first week and about 1 lb each week after for 2-3 weeks. You definetly loose some but it's not a huge change unless you are over-weight. The main benifits you see are in the cholesterol.|||there is no specified amount of time. as long as you exercise daily like you are supposed to and eat enough fruits and veggies you will see the weight melt off. But if you eat vegan junk food and live a sedentary lifestyle you will remain the same. XOXO|||Depends what you eat. Plain chocolate and ready salted crisps (chips for the US market) are vegan, but weight loss is unlikely.
Conversely a sensible (i.e. not too large) portion of lean animal protein as part of a vegetable rich diet will almost certainly help control weight.
I know it was only a comment on YouTube, but can you lose your hair from being a vegan for a few years?
I've been a veggie for over a year and I'm going to make an attempt at veganism soon... And on YouTube someone said that they kknewa vegan that started losing her hair... Duuueee to like all the soy products or something. Is it possible? If so, how likely?|||that's a lie! I started loosing hair when istarted this diet just veggies and fruits no meat- I realized I wasn't eating enough proteins and fiber- it was my fault now I have a balance diet and everything is going pretty good! thanx God I was really scared...but being a veggie it was the best thing I've ever made in mi life!!
|||Some people lose hair after going vegan because they are idiots and starve themselves. The only reason that they eat a vegan diet is to lose large amounts of weight and they are often anorexic and looking for excuses not to eat. Saying that they are vegan is often the easiest excuse to not eat and most people don't even know what vegan people really eat so they can just about refuse anything.
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/hair鈥?/a>
Bread, pasta, cereal, rice, beans, peas, lentils, nuts, seeds, fruits and veggies can easily offer everything that you need except B12.
http://www.veganhealth.org/sh
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo
All vegetarians should take a B12 supplement regularly since most people eat meat, dairy AND fortified cereals yet still have a B12 status that is lower than recommended.
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/b12
It may help if you see proof that vegetarian people have the same potential as anyone else.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sto鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.macdanzig.net/bio.php
http://www.scottjurek.com/career.php
If you need meat or dairy during any stage of your life or to live any certain lifestyle, why does the American Dietetic Association say otherwise?
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada鈥?/a>
|||more b.s. propaganda..
sorry, vegans and vegetarians have the best diet ... as you can see the numbers.
http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/mi鈥?/a>
also.. meat has no absorbable protein.. it's inert from fatty material... which IS not absorbed by the body and converted into fats and cholesterol.
nothing is wrong with soy... nothing is wrong with a vegan or vegetarian diet.
without any animal product AT ALL.
i know this.. because i'm a full bodied, thick haired vegetarian (who doesn't eat any fish, dairy or milk from any animals) for the last 30 years.
this is crap.. just more garbage that neverendingly fills our life to try and scare us.
nuff said.
through my experience i've seen more meat eaters lose their hair, looks, gain a belly and heart disease among digestional disorders than any vegetarian or vegan.|||losing your hair is due to lack of vitamins, minerals, from a poor diet. you can be omni, veggie, vegan and be ok or have such problems. it's all about how balanced your diet is, regardless of type.|||Hair loss can be caused by a variety of nutritional deficits, none of which would be a problem on a balanced diet, vegan or otherwise.|||Well never have heard that before.Losing hair is mostly hereditary I think.At least in males.But like all things too much of any one thing probably is not healthy.The choice is yours.|||No. I've been mostly vegan for 13+ years.
My sister upon going vegan for about 8 years - her hair actually started to curl again naturally.|||They are either making it up or the person they are talking about didn't eat enough protein or was malnutrition because they weren't getting enough protein.|||Absolute nonsense. After I went raw, my hair got much longer- because it quit breaking. My nails grow like crazy as well.|||Yes. In the vegan community hair loss is a very common thing. Especially if your diet is lacking certain vitamins, and minerals. To alleviate the problem many take supplements.
I live in Texas and unfortunately I am the only vegan I (personally) know. BUT I wouldn't say its unheard of although we are a very small percentage. There are vegan restaurants here! :-) There is Spiral diner which I love, the veggie garden (tasty vegan Asian food) by my university, a vegan friendly pizza place a few mins away from my house, a new restaurant just opened called D'Vegan, one tough cookie bakery in Irving area, There are a few more I haven't tried yet. So I would say...I have my options. Its obvious its becoming more popular.
Oh and I found out University of Texas in Arlington has a vegan club...how cool is that,|||Reasonably popular, yes. There are a few vegan restaurants in the city here, but not enough vegan-friendly places in the suburbs other than Asian food stores (although vegan options are becoming more common, slowly). I'm yet to meet someone who doesn't understand at least the general gist of veganism, and there are some food and makeup brands which are specifically stated to be vegan which shows it's a decent selling point, meaning there must be a significant number of vegans around. I live in Sydney, Australia by the way.|||I live in Ohio and we have quite a few vegan companys like Luna burgers, patty cakes vegan bakery and so on. I have lots of omnivore friends in my grade and only one veggi friend and a veg friend out side of school. We have the mercy for animals campaigne wich is really ausum. I live in a place I'll has say mostly meat eating people but still with lots of vegetarians.|||I come from a small town in northern NSW Aust, it's cattle and sheep country. I've never had any adversity or problems for the choice of my diet, vegetarian for 10 years, vegan now 10 days. I think as long as you don't make an issue out of it, no one really cares. When I go to the chinese shop, I just ask for some stir-fried vegies, and boiled rice, the chinese is the only restaurant apart from pizza|||I don't know how popular it is, I live in the midwest. I have 2 vegans and 1 vegetarian in my immediate family,|||My family are Jains and we live surrounded by Hindus and Jains so yes it is popular in my area.|||No. i'm a 'weirdo' to most people. and its only popular with proper hippys.|||no me being a vegetarian seems to make people angry but i don't care.............i don't tell other people what to eat so they have no right telling me what to eat :)|||no-one likes an angry vegetarian. they are always angry
The ancient cultures and "true vegans" see it as an integral part of a spiritual path that defines ones life. They defined veganism CENTURIES before anyone in some trivial vegan society or some sod named Watson.
So the answer is "yes".|||As many people on the forum have pointed out, living a life that affects no animals in any way is impossible, but if in your heart and soul you are doing the things you believe make as little impact as possible then I suppose those are the only real constraints that exist.|||Yes, I believe so.|||Huh? Could you elaborate on that please?|||No.
It's defined by the Vegan Society & Donald Watson. :)|||Veganism is really something you truly must believe in because it is a difficult lifestyle to live. Many people aren't accepting and it can be a more expensive lifestyle, however if their intentions are pure, they will maintain being a vegan
I agree, i have been vegan for years because i dont want to support the abuse of animals in the meat and dairy industry. I get all the protein and nutrients i need from a plant based diet and can live guilt free because i know no animal has died for me and as plants dont have a nervous system they cannot feel pain.|||In my opinion they are not cruel.|||I need my protein and don't get it from peanut butter. My aunt lives in the wilderness of the rockies and hunts to live.|||NO ENTIENDO UNA MIERD4 DE SU IDIOMA LO SIENTO...XD|||NOOOOOOOOPE|||I think its cruel to kill plants.
They are living to.|||Nope. Only class-5 vegans are non cruel.|||What are you talking about?
Why arent there section for these 4 things on yahoo! answers food and drink. why? why? why?|||Canibalism is illegal. Fruits are covered in "Other food and Drinks". Your 4 sections are really for minority groups.|||I don't know about the other three, but as for cannibalism .... well, maybe because in modern society it is unacceptable???
I'm not sure if I should do it|||Pros:
*Very, very healthy diet
*Less likely for many diseases, including but not limited to: heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc.
*MUCH better for the environment in comparison to the "American" diet, heavily consisting of meat
*Better for animal welfare
*You'll feel better and have more energy
*Even though it's not a reason to go vegan, a pro of veganism is that you're automatically cooler.|||In Yahoo!Answers you get to join the "elite" club of (often paid) posters and enjoy the benefits such as make multiple accounts and give yourself a thumbs up or vote yourself "Best Answer". You get to make cool sounding names like "friendofchip" (if you are a Malaysian pedophile living in Oregon) or "vegan biologist" (if you are a fat middle aged dateless, loveless loner from Melbourne Australia trolling for teenage girls) or "freedom1anarchist (if you are a fat middle aged lonely woman from Boston) etc etc etc. You can also pretty much lie about anything and get approval from the "gang".
Nutrition wise, there is nothing in a vegan diet that you cannot achieve with an omnivore diet. Even the so called "cruelty issues" with the latter can be found in a vegan diet. Billions of healthy people have walked, are walking and will walk on this earth without resorting to a vegan diet.|||The only pro of veganism is if it makes you feel better. There are no health benefits. Even VEGAN registered dietitian Ginny Messina says
"There is, of course, a pretty good argument for eating more plants (lots more plants) and less animal food, but no one has shown that you must eat a 100 percent plant diet in order to be healthy. So to make an argument for a 100% vegan diet based on health benefits alone, we have no choice but to stretch the truth. We have to overstate the benefits of vegan diets, and sometimes minimize or dismiss the risks. And as soon as we stray from the actual facts, our advocacy is on shaky ground."
http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/11/how-th鈥?/a>
Another VEGAN registered dietitian recommends all vegans and some vegetarians should supplement (pills) their diet for Vitamin B2, B6, B12, iodine, calcium, vitamin D, zinc and a DHA supplement. So the idea that veganism is healthy has a lot of holes in it.
http://www.veganhealth.org/
It you still want to do it "for the animals", remember to be careful and get supplements you need.|||Here are the pros of veganism:
- saving animals
- healthier
- more food can be produced for poor people
- protects against cancer and heart disease
- reduces farm chemicals that pollute our streams and lakes
- less global warming
- friendlier, more compassionate people
- vegans are less prone to violence
The only con to veganism is your constantly being forced to educate ignorant meat eaters!
And sometimes its hard to find vegan products!|||-Healthier
-You don't get to chew on dead carcasses
-All fresh food
-You get to eat lots of soy and become infected with genetically modified organisms and get cancer! (sarcasm. That's what I hate about people who think all vegetarians/vegans eat soy. I hate it.)
I couldn't be a vegan. I rarely drink regular milk, but I do love cheese, so I couldn't give that up. Haha.|||Read this book and it shall answer your questions.
http://www.amazon.com/Vegetarian-Myth-Fo鈥?/a>|||I lost 10 pounds, you feel healthier, its good for the environment, and you are at lower risk of heart disease & your cholesterol will be lower than ever.|||FYI everyone, exsft is a child molesting catholic! He once molested his daughter!!|||You get to look smug in front of your friends who are just vegetarians.|||healthwise, stronger immune system, better heart health. i rarely get sick now and if i do get sick it only lasts a day or too. my last blood test said i have a good cholesterol rating of 53 and a bad cholesterol rating of 80. so my risk of a heart attack is way low
environment---raising cows for dairy cuts down the rainforest, consumes alot of water
ethics---to make milk, cheese, butter cows need to be pregnant. the male babies are raised to be veal with their necks chained to the floor. 95 percent of egg laying hens are raised in batter cages. even the cage free facilities are filled with amonia and none of the hens get vetinary care
the guy above me, jk, is posting a book that is against veganism, written by a woman named lierre kieth who is a feminist. she wouldn't want men dominating her, but she is ok with her dominating animals. messed up
I am on Day 3 of the Master Cleanse...very difficult, drove by a herd of cows yesterday and almost pulled and ate them..
its gonna better today, cravings for food are lessing, I am seriously considering a Raw Food diet, but I am going to start with Vegan first, starting slowly, cutting out meat..
Any advice...|||Yes.
1. REMEMBER the laxative teas at night and the saltwater flush in the mornings. VERY important.
2. Listen to your body. Let nobody tell you what to do with it.
You'll feel what feels good and what doesn't.
In regards to the MC, I did it for 28 days and I felt and looked great and I had MORE energy than ever.
I think it's a great idea to cleanse first and THEN move into a really healthy intake of organic fruits and vegetables.
I'd be more than happy to help you along the way, via email.
Good Luck!!!!!!
You can do it. :-)|||False.
There was this olympic runner who went veg and that was reportedly the best year of his life stats wise.
Keep up the good work!|||Just slowly cut back and just use will power, but as long as you take the necessary meal supplement and get the right nutrients you will not look anorexic.|||Vegan is OK. If you try the raw food only diet, several weeks before your imminent demise, your skin will have turned orange from eating all those carrots.|||I don't know ...but please tell me about your cleanse?
i have been a vegetarian since june 11th of this year and have been faithful to it..i think my body is thriving and i am ready to cut out the dairy and eggs..
yuppers
i can try at least..i have tried before and failed miserably
so when did you go vegan and any tips for me?|||You're already there. You won't miss eggs, and soy milk comes in many flavours, you can't go wrong.
And you need to give up the diet coke! :)
Edit: Your diet coke question
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/ind鈥?/a>|||I'm 12, and I went Vegan in the summer of 2008 (this year) and now it's December. But it's not hard to be vegan. Don't let others tell you that it is. Being Vegan is a very healthy lifestyle choice, and it will make you feel very good because you are helping animals that are stuck in factories. Report Abuse
|||I am currently vegetarian, but I'm considering cutting out eggs. Dairy products, however, I see no point in removing from the diet.|||Don't give up! You are the one in control. Most of all, be proud of your choice.
I became vegan over a year ago. I always stick to my diet as much as I possibly could; I admit there was a few times where I was offered something from someone who swore it was vegan, only to realize otherwise when I took a bite. This kind of stuff might happen, especially in the beginning, because a lot of people do not know what it means to be vegan. Don't give up, think of it as a lesson learned. Don't be shy to ask questions if you are eating out. Oh, and buy lots of different fruits!!|||I tried to go vegan a couple of years ago but it didn't work for me. I was having problem giving up cheese like so many people did. Eggs were easy to give up. Scrambled tofu is a great replacement for scrambled eggs in the morning and for baking there's tons of egg substitutes like Ener-G. Try out different milk substitute to see what suit you best. There's soymilk (which is available everywhere), almond milk (tasty!), oatmilk, rice mik and even hemp milk now? There's also a lot of cheese subsitutes on the markets. But keep an egg on the ingredients some soy cheese will contain dairy products in the ingredient.|||Be sure to get your vitamin B12, and at your age, pay close attention to your calcium, vitamin D, and iron in addition to your overall nutrition. Those last three are important whether you eat meat or not or whether you're vegetarian or vegan.
This is a neat little guide from vegan outreach
http://www.veganoutreach.org/guide/gce.p鈥?/a>
http://www.veganoutreach.org/
good luck.|||educating myself on dairy products did it for me. Like someone else mentioned its hard in the beginning, because you make mistakes. Your still learning, but dont have the mentality " I screwed up, I may as well just give it up" kinda like "dieting" you have to stay the course. I was a vegetarian for a year before I decided to take the vegan plunge, which has only been a few weeks now. But I have learned that health food stores are our friends, and have lots of vegan options to help you get over the inital shock of " everything has by products"
without agriculture, like a hunter-gatherer society without the hunting?|||Practicing veganism as a sort of animal rights/welfare issue, no. Eating a vegan diet (temporarily at least) because there is no other food to eat yes. People eat food to survive. If that food happens to be all plants, or all eat or a combination of both, so be it. There may be some sub groups that have separated from the main tribe in order to pursue some sort of vegan type religious practicesor rituals but there appears to be no solid evidence to show such a thing occurring.
Before farming, animal or plant, humans, hardly pursued any other activity outside the gathering, hunting or scavenging for food. Even their "arts and crafts" were mostly directed towards portraying hunting scenes and crafting weapons to be used for hunting. Agriculture/farming did result in a more dependable and plentiful source of food thus allowing humans to pursue other endeavors such as philosophy which is basically just what modern veganism is.
PS I just watched Nat Geo feature on an "indigenous" Laotian tribe where they had a traditional salad of 90% plants (herbs mostly) and ant eggs. That's right, ant eggs because apparently, even without formal scientific knowledge, their ancestors already knew the importance of protein in a diet. And ant eggs were a viable option.|||I don't think so, just like it is very rare for indigenous societies to drink milk. (Only a few have.) Depending on where they lived and the season, it could be next-to-impossible for them to get enough food just by foraging. Many plant foods are also relatively low in fat, which is of course essential. Protein may also be an issue in some parts of the world. Animal flesh provides both of these. Remember that indigenous societies also do not enjoy many benefits that we do. They generally need to do most, if not all, of their work by hand. They may or may not have clothing that fully protects them. They may or may not have effective shelter. They basically can only count on their bodies, whereas we have tools and technology. In a situation like that, you take it where you can get it, and you probably want the source that takes the least energy for you. Five guys take down a deer and they can feed all of their families, immediately. With agriculture, it's a lot of work over a lot of time, which isn't practical when you are using only the sweat of your brow. Again, they have limited food storage, so a large harvest isn't going to do them much good if they can't preserve it right away.|||No. There's no archaeological evidence of any veg*n group, tribe, etc., in human history.
On the other hand, the Inuit of the north were a healthy near-carnivorous people until they became "civilized" and started eating a lot of wheat based foods. Now their health is generally pretty bad. Some of them have gone back to eating the traditional diet (lots of animal fat) and seem to be doing better.
Humans need vitamin B12. It's simply not available in a strictly plant based diet without supplementing, either pills, shots or manufactured B12 which has been put into highly processed foods.|||There still are tribes that exist that have had very little or no communication with the outside world. None of them are vegetarians. And scientists believe none have ever been either. The vegetarian diet is not natural. These tribes don't have grocery stores, they have to eat what the region they live in provides them. The HAVE to supplement their diet with meat. This is proof that the vegetarian diet is not natural.|||There are still some ppl in society that still practice this today.|||Yes, the name isn't coming to me but I believe a ruler in China banned the killing and consumption of animals and people abided by it, but that was many years ago.
reasons such as texture?|||Red kidney beans - raw food diets usually include sprouted beans; red kidney beans are toxic.
Rhubarb can be toxic if eaten raw in large quantities.
Potatoes|||eggplants, rhubarab, nuts, olives, beans(poisonous when raw), grains(well some people have unique methods of "preparing" raw grains, but they don't seem very appealing)
raw broccoli gives you gas, but most people eat it|||I don't know of any (natural, organic, vegan) foods that are poisonous when raw, yet edible when cooked.
"Vegitatian"? If you mean vegetation, there are lots of passages about plants. Though the first fruit mentioned, in the Garden of Eden, doesn't really get a lot of praise.|||God gave our first parents the food He designed that the race should eat. It was contrary to His plan to have the life of any creature taken. There was to be no death in Eden. The fruit of the trees in the garden was the food man's wants required. - 1864
The majority of the diseases which the human family have been and still are suffering under, they have created by ignorance of their own organic health, and work perseveringly to tear themselves to pieces, and when broken down and debilitated in body and mind, send for the doctor and drug themselves to death. - 1866
The diet of animals is vegetables and grains. Must the vegetables be animalized, must they be incorporated into the system of animals, before we get them? Must we obtain our vegetable diet by eating the flesh of dead creatures? God provided fruit in its natural state for our first parents. He gave to Adam charge over the garden, to dress it, and to care for it, saying, "To you it shall be for meat." One animal was not to destroy another animal for food. - 1896
Let our ministers and canvassers step under the banners of strict temperance. Never be ashamed to say, "No thank you; I do not eat meat. I have conscientious scruples against eating the flesh of dead animals. - 1901
Flesh was never the best food; but its use is now doubly objectionable, since disease in animals is so rapidly increasing. - 1902
Animals are becoming more diseased and it will not be long until animal food will be discarded by many besides Seventh-day Adventists. Foods that are healthful and life sustaining are to be prepared, so that men and women will not need to eat meat. - 1902
Vegetables, fruits, and grains should compose our diet. Not an ounce of flesh meat should enter our stomachs. The eating of flesh is unnatural. We are to return to God's original purpose in the creation of man. - 1903
The moral evils of a flesh diet are not less marked than are the physical ills. Flesh food is injurious to health, and whatever affects the body has a corresponding effect on the mind and the soul. Think of the cruelty to animals meat-eating involves, and its effect on those who inflict and those who behold it. How it destroys the tenderness with which we should regard those creatures of God! - 1905
Animals are often transported long distances and subjected to great suffering in reaching a market. Taken from the green pastures and traveling for weary miles over the hot, dusty roads, or crowded into filthy cars, feverish and exhausted, often for many hours deprived of food and water, the poor creatures are driven to their death, that human beings may feast on the carcasses. - 1905
It is a mistake to suppose that muscular strength depends on the use of animal food. The needs of the system can be better supplied, and more vigorous health can be enjoyed, without its use. The grains, with fruits, nuts, and vegetables, contain all the nutritive properties necessary to make good blood. These elements are not so well or so fully supplied by a flesh diet. Had the use of flesh been essential to health and strength, animal food would have been included in the diet appointed man in the beginning. - 1905
Those who eat flesh are but eating grains and vegetables at second hand; for the animal receives from these things the nutrition that produces growth. The life that was in the grains and the vegetables passes into the eater. We receive it by eating the flesh of the animal. How much better to get it direct by eating the food that God provided for our use! - 1905|||God To Adam and Eve: Genesis 1:29Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
God to Noah: 1 And God went on to bless Noah and his sons and to say to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth. 2 And a fear of YOU and a terror of YOU will continue upon every living creature of the earth and upon every flying creature of the heavens, upon everything that goes moving on the ground, and upon all the fishes of the sea. Into YOUR hand they are now given. 3 Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for YOU. As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to YOU.
Daniels advice about three young hebrews: How their countenances were better with vegetables and water than with rich foods and wine:
9 Accordingly the [true] God gave Daniel over to loving-kindness and to mercy before the principal court official. 10 So the principal court official said to Daniel: “I am in fear of my lord the king, who has appointed YOUR food and YOUR drink. Why, then, should he see YOUR faces dejected-looking in comparison with the children who are of the same age as YOURS, and [why] should YOU have to make my head guilty to the king?” 11 But Daniel said to the guardian whom the principal court official had appointed over Daniel, Han·a·ni´ah, Mish´a·el and Az·a·ri´ah: 12 “Please, put your servants to the test for ten days, and let them give us some vegetables that we may eat and water that we may drink; 13 and let our countenances and the countenance of the children who are eating the delicacies of the king appear before you, and according to what you see do with your servants.”
14 Finally he listened to them as regards this matter and put them to the test for ten days. 15 And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared better and fatter in flesh than all the children who were eating the delicacies of the king. 16 So the guardian kept on taking away their delicacies and their drinking wine and giving them vegetables. 17 And as for these children, the four of them, to them the [true] God gave knowledge and insight in all writing and wisdom; and Daniel himself had understanding in all sorts of visions and dreams.
18 And at the end of the days that the king had said to bring them in, the principal court official also proceeded to bring them in before Neb·u·chad·nez´zar. 19 And the king began to speak with them, and out of them all no one was found like Daniel, Han·a·ni´ah, Mish´a·el and Az·a·ri´ah; and they continued to stand before the king. 20 And as regards every matter of wisdom [and] understanding that the king inquired about from them, he even got to find them ten times better than all the magic-practicing priests [and] the conjurers that were in all his royal realm.
What God calls holy and right and clean let no man dispute it.
Acts 10:
13 And a voice came to him: “Rise, Peter, slaughter and eat!” 14 But Peter said: “Not at all, Lord, because never have I eaten anything defiled and unclean.” 15 And the voice [spoke] again to him, the second time: “You stop calling defiled the things God has cleansed.” 16 This occurred a third time, and immediately the vessel was taken up into heaven.
Micah 6:7-8 (New International Version, ©2010)
7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams,
with ten thousand rivers of olive oil?
Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,
the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good.
And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly[a] with your God.|||It doesn't say anything. But Adam and Eve and all the animals were plant eaters. Even the lions, tigers and bears, oh my. It was not until after the flood that God gave animals as food for humans. Then the animals also began eating each other.|||It says you can eat of the clean animals, then lists the ones that are unclean, that you can't eat, in Deuteronomy.
BTW, what is vegitatian?|||That there's nothing wrong with it and that believers should not criticize other believers for not eating meat.|||Vegitatian? Like grass and stuff? I don't think the bible has any view on vegetarian or vegan lifestyle|||daniel...read it for yourself...|||It doesn't
Sure, as long as you eat a variety of healthy foods on a regular basis & take a vegan-friendly B-12 supplement a couple times a week. Don't let anyone tell you that a vegan diet won't provide enough protein.
If you have any questions or concerns, speak to a nutritionist or consult one of the many books on vegetarianism/veganism for people of all age groups.|||uhhhh yeah dude|||Speaking as a 15 year old vegan. Definitely.|||uhh yea im 15. its right for any age really.|||Yes. To quote the American Dietetic Association:
"Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence."
(The American Dietetic Association is one of the nation's leading nutrition experts).|||Being a vegan is safer than not being one in all respects, irrespective of age. There is absolutely nothing that is unsafe being a vegan (You dont really have to worry about Bird Flu or Mad Cow etc)|||Yes. I am 11 years old and a perfectly healthy vegetarian.|||i think so...yah|||According to the American Dietetic Association, a well planned vegan diet is appropriate for all life stages, including pregnancy and lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, and adulthood.|||Absolutely! We eat meat for the protein. When you combine a legume with a grain (beans and rice) your body combines it as a complete protein.
As far as macro minerals and trace minerals are concerned, if you do your homework, you'll find that many vegetables contain iron (spinach, dried beans and dark green leafy vegetables), calcium (romaine lettuce, broccoli, almonds, hazelnuts, peanuts, and walnuts), zinc (endive, baby zucchini, and cashews), phosphorus (sweetcorn, potatoes, artichokes and tomatoes), copper (grain cereals, legumes, cherries, and nuts), and iodine (kelp).
Meats, although they may make you feel "full" longer, generally take longer to digest. They also tend to create a more foul odor in the process of putrefaction. (Maybe that's why we vegetarians seem to think "our poop doesn't stink") ;)
Hope this answered your question.|||yes as long as the body gets the nutrients it requires in the proper amounts ( no too much, not too little), any diet is safe at any age. For starters, try to avoid junk and highly processed foods as much as possible which are not good for anybody at any age.
Younger people,because of lack of experience (and some adults too for that matter) however, need to educate themselves on what these nutrients are, how to get them (in what foods can they be found),amounts required etc.
Education is the key.
If it seems difficult to quit cold turkey (no pun intended) then try the gradual approach. Perhaps eliminate one kind of meat first or decrease you portions (but make sure to replace what you cut out with something of the same calorie content and nutritional value. otherwise, you might find yourself getting weak or hungry all the time) or frequency ( eating meat 3 times a week instead of daily then 2 times a week etc). Start snacking on fruits (dried or fresh) or veggie sticks to stave off hunger pangs.
good luck|||A growing body needs to have well balanced meals each day. You can substitute beans for beef. You need fruits and a dinner of one protein (beans), one vegetable, and one starch for your main meal such as supper.
Check out these recipes:
http://allrecipes.com/HowTo/Vegetarian-M鈥?/a>|||Its good for people of all Ages.|||Yeah, definitely. It is safe at any age.
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada鈥?/a>
The things is this, vegan people are more likely to take the quality of their diet under strong criticism due to the desire to be the best examples as possible. There is already a strong stereotype that vegan people struggle with their health and they want to shatter that myth.
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=b鈥?/a>
This site helps educate people on how to plan their diets wisely. http://www.veganhealth.org/sh|||Yes ofcourse.
Eat veeggies that has lots of nutrients like soy beans, ground nuts, green leafy veggies and rich in vitamin a. You also need excercise!|||it's safe for a month
then come back to tthe real world - cause there are
trace minerals in meat you need|||No, its not really safe for anyone.|||It isn't safe for anybody!!! If it was healthy to not eat meat, lions would eat tofu. We are animals and we have to eat like one.
Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I am writing a research paper for my English 102 class and need people to interview. It is about the negative affects of the meat and dairy industry and the positive affects of a vegan diet [I can extend this to vegetarian, if necessary]. Do you have any ideas on who I could seek out to interview? Specific people would be fantastic, but even general ideas are appreciated- thanks in advance :)|||Is there a whole foods or organic foods store in or near your town? Speaking from what I've observed, there are a lot of vegans that shop there. You might also try local restaurants that have vegan items or a vegan menu. While it might be weird to find a random customer at those places, members of their staff should have some information and would be good to interview. Hope this helps!|||I agree with Priscilla P... Shell123ey is AMAZING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9qdPbmQZ鈥?/a>|||earthsave.org
plenty.org
vegieworld.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMm鈥?/a> - This guy Gary Yourofsky is an animals rights activist, he is giving a speech to a college class. he does 200 speeches each year. hes a journalist. he has been to prison for setting free a bunch of minx that were going to be turned into fur, banned from 5 countries hes never set foot on just because they didnt agree with his stance on letting people know the truth that meat and dairy actually many cancers and alot of other problems. he explains the science behind it that only nutritional experts would know, doctors wouldnt. even doctors suggest to breast cancer patients to go vegan because most of the time it has suceeded. but he explains whats in milk and meat that causes cancer and other severe problems that thea meat and dairy industry wont tell you because they want you money so they glamourize meat and dairy products on tv and dont tell you what happens to the animals on farms and what is in them and what they put in them and so forth. He does all his speeches for free because he believes the truth should be for free. So there are people who sponsor him to fund his trips and housing and speeches/such. he is a great speaker and speaks the truth. Actually good news I have talked to him quite a few times he is very passionate and would love to help, you could interview him, any question you might have he can answer, here is his facebook, just tell him about your situation and he will get back to you immediatlywatch the video first it will help with your paper I did a paper on that exact topic a week ago it rele helped http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1鈥?/a>
More:
http://www.mercyforanimals.org/
http://www.myspace.com/besmartbegreen/bl鈥?/a>
other:
http://www.tofurky.com/whyeatveg/vegetar鈥?/a>
http://www.tofurky.com/whyeatveg/meat_of鈥?/a> Tofurky vegan brand, talks about how much land it takes to grow cattle and how there not enough land to grow cattle to feed everyone and how much grain it takes to produce a pound of meat when people are starving and could be just eating the grains and so on. and more statistics and facts
This girl is kind of funny but she tells the facts and nuthing but the facts, you can learn some interesting things here, check it out when you have the time, actually you can interview her to, i talked with her, she will respond within less than a day and have a convo if you need anything you can ask her she knows almost everything there is to know about the meat and dairy industry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9qdPbmQZ鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN-yRiOd8鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hQckFAyV鈥?/a>
Both tend to be self-righteous, both tend to be extremists and both tend to be liberal hypocrites.|||I would say the correlation is progressive thinking. I would also say that while not all feminists are vegan, I would think that most, if not all, vegans would be feminist. Since veganism encompasses more than diet, the natural tendency is toward a "live and let live" attitude. If you want to go out of your way to not harm any living creature, then it makes sense that you would be against sexism, racism, homophobia, etc.|||While it may seem popular to give a correlation between them the fact is there is no study to prove otherwise. Really you are comparing apples to oranges. There is no way to really tell without a study. Even then you would have to take a fairly large sample to be sure.
I know feminists who eat meat. I know vegans who are conservatives. So really can you make a correlation or is it simply the people you associate with and a matter of coincidence.|||I would say so. Vegans are usually radical animal rights activists and are trying to give a voice to the underdog. Women, some may think, are underdogs. Also they tend to fight for the environment, another underdog since it cannot fight for itself.|||They both seek to correct the harms of what the powerful can do to the less powerful. To protect women from control by men and animals from exploitation by humans.|||"As we talked of freedom and justice one day for all, we sat down to steaks. I am eating misery, I thought, as I took the first bite. And spit it out." - Alice Walker|||No.|||I'm a vegan feminist and I think so (:
I'm just beginning as a vegan, and i want to record my experiences on tumblr! I need a title for the blog. My URL is A Day In The Life Of A Teenge Vegan.|||no meat for me!
Or wheelchairhereIcome
cheesepleese|||Treesarepeopleto|||Eggshavefeelingstoo.dot.blog whatever|||IwishiHadEatenMoreCheeseBurgers.dot.blog
I was a vegan for three years. And during that three years I had shakiness, dizziness, fatigue, mood swings, reduced strength when working out. I was eating enough calories but my body never adapted. Last week I started eating fish and turkey and chicken again and within a couple days all my symptoms went away. I have more strength with weights and more energy. Is this normal? Is veganism just not meant for some people's bodies. I feel bad for eating meat again but it makes me feel better.|||You should see a dietitian that knows about veganism.
I would think that you were likely anemic. I'm not a dietitian but I am prone to low iron levels (due to highly personal feminine things). If I eat too much junk food I tend to get the exact same symptoms you discribe.
Try adding more of the following foods to your diet (if you don't intend on visiting an actual dietitian):
Pistachios
Cashews (roasted)
Whole lentils
Chick peas (boiled)
Wholemeal bread
Sesame seeds or tahini
Black molasses
Apricots (dried)
Spinach (boiled)
You may also want to suppliment your b vitamins...|||I think you are a troll.
A balanced vegan diet, beats a carnivore's diet any day. There are Olympic athletes that a vegans.
We are naturally vegans, otherwise we would have teeth like dogs and cats.
Vegan athletes:
http://www.veganathlete.com/vegan_vegeta鈥?/a>
It's a myth that man was a hunter. Man was hunted!
http://www.amazon.com/Man-Hunted-Primate鈥?/a>|||Many of my friends are vegans. I am not, but from dealing with them and talking, you prob weren't getting enough protein. Gotta eat tons of beans. But also, you are right. Sometimes your body just doesn't deal well with it. My one friend was told by her doctor that she HAD to eat chicken or she would become chronically ill. Talk to your doctor for sure, so you can set up a healthy nutrition plan that brings you all the nutrition you need. Also, stay up on your vitamins and supplements. :D|||You Would be the first. People don't need meat to be healthy. No one in the nutrition field, with the possible exception of those directly employed by big beef (lol), would even suggest it.
The fact you Went back to eating the to most abused animals on the planet suggests there was never any sort of commitment. I would think most people would have eaten eggs or dairy before going back into eating chicken etc...|||It seems you just weren't eating properly.
Do not blame veganism.|||Could you not just have overdone it? Working out will dehydrate you and that can cause some symptoms... Tiredness after working out - is that only vegans?!
It sounds more like you had trouble getting your diet right for you than whether it had meat in it. I know hundreds of vegetarians and vegans (and the difference is often not extreme, just a little cheese here and there!) who don't feel the way you describe. I also know vegan bodybuilders who would really disagree that it is simply fish or poultry you need. I am also a long term vegan and have never felt the way you describe.
Sounds to me like you were having problems that may have been more to do with what nutrients you ate rather than where they were coming from. If you do your research you can find plenty of evidence (not just attitude and 'opinion' like many responses here so far) that show you can fulfil all your needs on a vegan diet, but the word vegan just means 'no animals' right, so if you only ate margerine every day you would still be vegan, but it doesn't mean automatically healthy.
As for comments about what is 'natural' and what we are 'designed' to eat... thats the path to superstition and ignorance. We aren't designed to fly, but right now thousand of people are 30,000ft up enjoying the views, we aren't designed to breath underwater, but scuba divers do... We are a 21st century industrialised people, we have choices (and responsibilities) that disease riddled, cold, wet and hungry cavemen wouldn't have dreamed of - enjoy them!
I think the answer is all in amino acids, and maybe you limited your protein sources too much, a better balance between vegetable proteins and watching the vitamins and minerals is the answer I offer. Theres nothing magic in fish, chicken or turkey, just some nutrients you may have unintentially avoided while being vegan, because you maybe didn't know about them or didn't like them.|||Eating improperly on ANY diet will make you feel that way. You would have felt fine, probably better, had you been paying attention to what you were eating. Anyone can be healthy on a vegan diet, so long as they've done their research.|||According to your other questions asked in other categories I would say that your problem is that you weren't (and aren't) eating well. Your other posts say nothing about eating fruits at all. Unless you're eating bell peppers then I don't understand where your vitamin C is coming from. They don't mention beans or nuts or seeds, nor do they mention flax seed or soy, so I don't know where you were getting Omega 3 from.
Anyone can be vegan, but you have to put enough time into it to know what you're doing. You have to know something about nutrition. Anyone not eating well is going to feel bad, no matter if they are vegan, vegetarian or omnivore.|||I agree with wiccagirl, according to your other questions, you do not seem to have been eating very well at all
Even now you've incorporated meat into your diet as well, you need make sure your getting the vitamins etc|||John is a spazz, do not listen to a word he says.
look, as you were a vegan, i think you were not getting enough protein and b12, which is easy in a vegan diet IF YOU EAT HEALTHILY
you could be fine as a vegan, you should just try to be healthier, that's all|||I can't really imagine it was you being vegan that made you dizzy. Any well balanced diet of fruits, vegetable, beans and wheat products can't make you sick if you are eating food. It sounds to me that you just really weren't eating anything...
It seems like meat eaters will obviously eat more because they have more options. Sure I've given up every meat imaginable and I've felt perfectly fine for 5 years, and I probably get less nutrition then most. So that should say something right there.
If veganism is too difficult for you, you could try vegetarianism. It's obviously not a moral issue for you since you've gone back to eating meat anyway.|||Well vegans tend to be deficient in certain nutrients, vitamin B, etc. It is recommended that as a vegan you understand nutrition and how to substitute these vitamins with different foods that are non-meat. You say you ate calories, they could have been the wrong ones.|||Well gee, it looks to me like your body is trying to tell you something. Man in an omnivore, do you know what that means? Everyone needs the excellent protein sources of eggs, meat, fish, milk, and cheese. Please don't let the misinformed vegetarians talk you into doing something that is bad for you. And don't feel bad about eating meat. If we weren't meant to eat meat, why do have the digestive enzymes needed to digest meat? Did you know that In the U.S., vegan children tend to be smaller than other children? It's a fact.|||It is FOR NO ONE
HUMANS ARE OMNIVORES. NATURE SAYS WE SHOULD EAT THIS WAY
OBEY NATURE. VEGANISM IS AN EMOTIONAL DISORDER, SO IS VEGETARIANISM.|||Maybe your body just wasn't ready for it or maybe your blood type is a blood type O which means your body has a tuff time eating things that isn't high on protein like meat.
What do you think about the idea of Vegetarianism and Veganism?
Have you ever considered going Vegan/Vegetarian?
If yes, Did you? If no, why?
Also, What do you think of people who are Vegan/Vegetarian?|||I am a "loose vegetarian", which also includes organic, free-range eggs and very limited organic dairy (plain cultured Greek yogurt) in my diet. I also eat very little grain foods (no gluten, period) or non-fruit/veggie sugars (I prefer to eat more different veggies, nuts, seeds, and to a lesser degree fruits, along with more natural fats, in their place).
I am sure that the militants out there will give me a BIG THUMBS DOWN for this, but it has worked awesomely for me for 25+ years. (At age 46, I am 6ft2in, still 180 pounds, a very lean 8-9% body fat, in perfect health, and look 20 years younger than what I am).
I have no problem with anyone's lifestyle dietary choices, as long as that person isn't militant about it, elitist about it, and resorts to spreading biased misinformation, which is based on their own nutritional ignorance and lack of proper research (such as worshiping at the altar of the thoroughly debunked "China Study" or failed "Lipid Hypothesis").
There is more than one road to a desired destination. Choose the one that suits you, and works for you.|||I am a vegan and I think it's the only way to be! I can't imagine ever eating any animal products again. I know that I'm healthier this way and that it's better for the environment and most importantly that I'm not contributing to the needless cruelty to animals.
Years ago when I was still a meat eater I was curious about vegetarians, but I think I thought, like a lot of meat eaters do, that it would be really difficult to do - it isn't!
I do think that one day everyone will be vegan and we will look back at the fact that we used to eat meat and wonder how we could have ever done it.
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." - Albert Einstein
.|||I think it's a really good thing if you have the self-control and willpower to do it.
I'm a Vegetarian.
I became a vegetarian when I saw a documentary of a slaughterhouse. Those images were sickening, and they will never, ever leave my mind. Cows were hanging upside down with their throats slit while they were still awake, just bleeding to death. Turkeys were being stomped on & thrown full force at walls. No living thing should EVER have to go through that, and from that day, I became a vegetarian, and I've stuck with it completely.
I went vegetarian for ethical reasons, but I've felt much better health-wise, and I've felt better about myself for sticking with it, because people said it's just "a phase" but it's something I strongly believe in & I'd never go back to eating meat(:
I'm not the kind of person to shove my beliefs down other people's throats, but I really wish more people would at least consider vegetarianism/veganism.|||I respect it, it usually takes a spiritual person to live a lifestyle like that. I come from a family of vegetarians but am an omnivore myself.
I have considered it and gone without it many times, but I am an omnivore by choice, i know it may seem gruesome and I apologize for saying it so openly in this section. But I'd rather be truthful and honest.
I do have a lot of respect for vegetarians/vegans though, and their compassion for animals. I truly think they are wonderful people.|||Hi sweetheart, You sound as though you are an inquisitive, open-minded person to at least pursue this avenue and I applaud you for this! For me, I have been a vegetarian for over 25 years and have tried the vegan thing at times, but can't quite do without my dairy and, to be honest, cannot see that taking milk and eggs from animals harms them any in any manner as long as the animals are treated humanely. I raise my own chicken (only have one) so I know that she gets love, so what else would I do with her eggs??? LOL As for milk, I love soy milk, cow milk, almond milk, and rice milk, cream, cheese, yogurt, but being a vegetarian, I feel that I need the dairy in order to help maintain my weight (I'm older and quite thin), protein, calcium, and overall health. I know about eating beans & greens (every day), there's NO veggie I don't adore, and love all soy, but nothing is much better than an omelet with a little extra sharp cheddar, mushrooms, peppers, spinach, etc....yum. Whatever you decide, vegan or vegetarian, I recommend, begin as a vegetarian, then try the vegan versions of cheeses, because some are very good. You grow into the vegan mode, sweetie, at least that's my guess. Maybe you got more than you came for from me. If so, my apologies, as Kurt Cobain said...haha Hugs and best of health from, messenger for goddess P.S. It's easier one step at a time, giving up the red meat, then the next step, add tofu or soymilk, one day at a time.. Hugs from, messenger for goddess|||i personally am not a big fan of meat and i wanted to be a vegetarian but in my house im not allowed to. i have three vegetarian friends and one of my teachers is a vegan. my friends are all really skinny and get sick easily and one is anorexic and my teacher is always really tiered and sleepy.
i dont think that in younger people is should be allowed because you need everything in order to keep yourself strong but for adults its there choice. i dont mind vegans/vegies but it can get a bit out of hand sometimes.
hope it helps :)|||While weight was not my motivation, it's a great way to eat healthy. In America the average person eats way too much red meat in a week, and most of that is covered in grease. If you make sure you get enough protein, iron, etc, you can be very healthy. Also it forces you to eat veggies (that's good for you). I lost 15 pounds.
I am a vegetarian, because I feel no one life is greater than another. I am no better or worse than a pig or fish. The reason we eat them is because animals cannot defend themselves. Also I have been scarred by internet videos supposedly from PETA of living conditions for livestock.
I do eat eggs and dairy. While I will never know how they were obtained, I feel like I have to keep these in my diet to be healthy. Also eggs were NEVER alive, and cows get mad if they aren't milked (their utters get sore)|||I think it's very safe, and a great way to stop supporting factory farming.
Yea, I am vegetarian. :)
I think it's awesome people can become vegetarian:)
Robyn; they're obviously not getting enough vitamins or nurtients they need..they should take multivitamin pills and eat more of something they're not getting enough of; like starch or protein. And being vegan/vegetarian doesn't make you tired... at least it shouldn't. lol :o|||I'm a Vegan, I'm not a kid and I do know where food comes from. Animals being killed "Humanely" is a completely nonsensical term because we would not treat a human that way (it usually involves horrendous amounts of pain and mental anguish).
I have an IQ of 150 and a 1st class honors degree so anyone who says that Vegans aren't smart doesn't know very many.
People who believe that being Vegan is more cruel than eating animals are trying to convince themselves of this so that they can justify their own horrendous actions, and anyone who believes it is unhealthy should do some serious research to find the truth.|||i'm vegetarian.
we dont eat harmless animals who have done NOTHING to us for the sake of our taste buds.
not to mention we already have veggies that we eat and have no right eating other beings.
why dont you take a good long hard look at this video. what if that was you or your family? just amagine if some higher being found us humans and wanted to do something because were just ( animals) to them. put your self in there shoes for once. watch this video
lol i got 1 thumbs down...i take it nobody watched the video.......because if you did and still dont bealive me then you have no heart...sorry to say.
http://youtu.be/ILG-0r9iyos
also look up onision on youtube. he's also a proud vegetarian who will tell you we have healthy foods besides meat. by not eating meat we are doing our bodys a favor as well as animals who love there family. oh and did you know pigs have been proven to be smarter then dogs? bet you dident know that.|||Vegan power!
Veg*ns are awesome, that's what I think. :)|||I love being a vegan and would never go back.|||My opinion? That they're mostly kids who don't have a clue about where their food comes from.
Have I ever considered? No. Because it's not a healthy diet. Any diet that requires lots of fake supplements is not a healthy diet, IMO.
What do I think of them? They're not very smart, easily led by people wanting to sell them memberships, food, tshirts, etc. They pretend their diet is "cruelty free", but actually it's much more cruel. The animals killed for human consumption are killed in the most humane manner possible (by law) under the watchful eye of USDA inspectors. Animals are chopped up, crippled, wounded in the fields by the big farm equipment planting and harvesting the veggies and grains that veg*ns depend on to live. (Or drowned in rice patties.)
Humans are biological organisms that eat other biological organisms. Vegan, Vegetarian, Omnivore, all humans eat biological organisms, or sustenance that comes from a biological organism.|||This article will explain you the bio make up and the reasons for why we should eat veg stuff. All about animal, human make up etc. You'll find it convincing hopefully
http://www.simply-vegetarian-recipes.com鈥?/a>
a common one! i know hipsters that are not vegetarian|||look at me
i've taken eating to it's illogical extremes
i'm so much more tuned in and healthier than you
it's a hipster doofus indulgence
so i quess i agree with you
one star
//you should ask this question in the vegetarian section in food and drink.
i'm sure most of them are going to say how healthy and humane they are compared to the rest of us stupid non vegans
I'm quite curious about, veganism and, vegetarianism. No meat or, animal products? Why do some, vegetarians eat fish? Aren't they animals too? Just want to know more about it...|||vegetarians who eat fish aren't vegetarians, since vegetarians don't eat animals. people who consume fish and no other animals are called pescatarians.
some vegetarians consume milk and eggs, they are called lacto-ovo vegetarians.
vegans don't consume or purchase any animal or animal byproduct (i.e. leather, feathers, suede, etc.) or companies that test their products on animals. basically, anything that involves the suffrage of animals is not to be eaten, bought, used, etc.
there are people who eat a vegan diet, but they should not be labeled vegans, as they are just doing it for health reasons (which is one of the many benefits of a vegan diet) but they are not living the lifestyle.
if you're interested in becoming a vegetarian or vegan, i strongly encourage you to try it. like i said before, there are many health benefits: most animals are injected with growth hormones and antibiotics which are passed into your body when you eat them. the growth hormones increase the risk of cancer in humans and the antibiotics increase your immunity to other antibiotics.
as for moral reasons: factory farming is at the top of the list.
peta.org is a good place to gather information on this. i strongly recommend that you check out the video on their website called "meat is murder". peta (people for the ethical treatment of animals) is kind of a fundamentalist organization and i personally think they are about as effective as the jehovah's witnesses that come pounding on your door. they over dramatize most facts, but they still present the facts, nontheless.
once again, give it a shot. being a vegan is a lot easier than most people think. it's just a lot of label reading at the grocery store. but you'd be surprised at how much of the food you already eat is accidentally vegan. did you know oreos and nutter butters are vegan? they are so artificial that they somehow managed to leave out any animal products. (yay!)
if you have the funds, i highly recommend you buy "how it all ve-gan" or if you have a local bookstore/distro try to get your hands on a zine called "soy not oi!" it's not only full of delcious recipes, but has lots of stories about becoming vegan and tips on things to watch out for (things like calcium phosphate [animal bones and teeth] and rennet [found in most cheeses, it is the stomach lining of an unweaned calf])
hope this information is of use to you.|||yes fish are animals too but some vegetarians eat it because of the essentials oils and such. vegans are the ones who eat NO animal byproducts.
vegetarians will still eat eggs and milk and whatnot.
but yeah, i'm still sort of confused about the fish thing myself.|||I think Veganism is when they don't get fish, eggs, and dairy. Mostly they eat veggies, fruit, soy. So cakes, breads, cookies, would be out of their diet too.|||There are many different types and reasons for vegetarianism. Vegetarians in general have a wide veriety of reasons for doin it, such as dietary or health restrictions. For vegans it is more of a moral issue, such as the Linus not wanting to kill a tree. As a note, I find vegans very annoying since they try to push their "communist" views on everybody.|||Some vegetarians choose to not eat animals for cruelty reasons, while some others do it primarily for health. Fish, even though they are animals, have healthier flesh than mammals or birds - in fact it can be pretty healthy stuff! So those primarily concerned with health reasons might still eat fish because it's healthy.
Some vegetarians eat fish, but only when they are out at restaurants. The reason for this is that it's easier to find something to eat at a restaurant if you eat fish. Some people believe it's worse to eat a mammal or a bird than a fish, because fish seem to be less advanced than mammals or birds. Fish are also a lot more different from us humans than mammals or birds, so it's easier to eat something that doesn't look so much like us.|||But...eating meat is healthier than not eating it...
Your right though, fish is even healthier, fish is the single healthierst food around these days.|||I think people pretty much answered the 'why' part for you. It's different for each person.
I just wanted to let you know of a few false statements in the previous answers.
1- Vegans can still eat cookies, cakes and things. They just use milk and egg replacements in their baking.
2- It is not healthier to eat meat than to not eat meat. Our bodies were made to live off a diet of mostly plants with very little meat. If you choose to eat meat, the healthiest amount would be about two servings a week.
3- Fish is NOT the healthiest food out there. It may be the healthiest meat to eat, I'm not sure, but soy (found in many meat substitutes) is much healthier than any type of meat.|||Vegetarians dont eat fish. Just because someone calls themself a vegetarian does not mean they are one.
Vegans are the ones that avoid all animal products.
so many younger friends of mine have committed to this lifestyle and don't understand a thing about nutrition. one ended up in a hospital because her brain was starving and she woke up freaking out and didn't even know her name. also, these so-called vegans will drink beer which is filtered by a process that would include animal byproducts, not to mention that the process of refining useless, bleached sugar also involves animal byproducts. i don't see a lot of "vegans" cutting out beer and refined sugars from their diets!
it seems as though with my generation, to eat like a stuck up snob is fashionable. someone please knock me out|||Had a chat about this one with somebody in 1st-year university; he said it seemed very much a social thing on his campus -- veganism was more 'lifestyle' than dietary practice, and gets you a new circle of friends.
I've been entirely vegetarian since birth, and have to apologise about that all the time now thanks to that sort of thing being trendy: no, I don't mind at all if you eat meat, etc, etc...
It does get extremely weird. See, for example:
http://www.vegancats.com/|||I think people are just into it because we are such an image obsessed society and because it's just one of those things that "everyone" is doing right now. They'll get over it.|||I know there must be some that are absolutely committed to it. And that's okay. But to me it seems like a difficult lifestyle to keep up with. So I believe for most people it's just a passing phase.|||You have no idea what you are talking about.
Go eat a cow and enjoy your high cholesterol cheese.
By the way when you go crazy of MAD COW DISEASE ( which it sounds like you have) don't ***** to me.
Now leave while I enjoy my nice dinner that didnt support in the killing of animals.
Want more?
Go to www.SpiderQueenSkylar.blogspot.com|||It may be "IN" right now but it is not a fad. It is centuries old.
Adam & Eve did not eat flesh. Many religions do not condone living creatures.|||Its not a fad anymore....although some people may just jump on the bandwagon without knowledge. However there are people who are more educated and are thinking outside the box....not just listening to the authorities without questioning/researching....
Vegetarianism is a lifestyle change...its healthier for our bodies and promotes self healing...
Check out McDougall, Robbins, Furman...
I am a vegan. I eat no meat/animal protein. I also avoid all processed foods and refined sugar. But I eat things that give me the vitamins I need, like fruits, vegetables and beans.
Good luck.|||Veganism is just one of the things that people do so that they can feel superior to other people.|||Well, beer isn't good for you anyway. It is smart for them to do that, vegan or not.
Vegan isn't a fad, if it is, this is one long fad. I have been a vegetarian for over 15 years. It is how I want to live my life, and it is how your friends want to live their lives. I am sure you are just thinking about their best interests, but what you are saying is very rude. If her brain is starving, then she isn't eating right. Just being a vegan or vegetarian isn't going to starve your brain. You have to know what you are doing and eat correct meal plans.|||why is being an idiot so endemic on the internet? Some beers and sugars truly are vegan. A starving brain? As long as you are breathing and don't have massive brain damage your brain is not starving. Maybe you should meet some real vegans....|||It does seem to be a trendy thing, although it has been around for years. Unfortunatly, it is being seen by some as a fad, so health isn't a huge consideration when opting for a vegan lifestyle, when t really has to be. You're right in pointing out the beer and sugar thing. When really looking into it, unless a person grows their own food with non-animal related fertilizers, you can't be a true vegan in every sense of the word. Many who opt for a vegan lifestyle and just putting an effort towards cruelty free living as much as possible, and it does become difficult to weed out everything. Not many years ago, vegetarians didn't seem too common, and it was hard to find good vegetarian alternatives in stores. This has sort of evolved into the mainstream, just as veganism now. For some yes, it's a fad, and for others it's a lifestyle.|||Not all beers are processed with animals... Budwieser, my fav, is a vegan beer.
Refined sugar is hard to avoid.
Veganism isn't 100%... it's just not possible in this current society, so we strive to come as close to 100% as we can get.
It's not a fad, and we don't do it to feel superior. Well, I'm sure some vegans do, but not all of them.
I'm vegan simply because killing animals when I have no need to is wrong.|||I had a friend in high school who decided to be a vegetarian. When I asked him why, he couldn't tell me. It wasn't because of his love of animals, wasn't a health choice. It was just something he wanted to do. So whatever....
People are idiotic. They want to do what celebrities are doing, what other people say they should do. Instead of listening to their own bodies, and eating the way human beings have for thousands upon thousands of years (NOT including sugary junk).|||Maybe new Vegans/ Vegetarians are not confident in answering the question because they are immediately labelled as idiots/ softies or stuck up snobs. I committed to this lifestyle some 22 years ago because I had a moment of not wanting to see animals killed. I did exactly the same as the young friend who ended up in hospital because I did not eat the right combinations. However, this was in a very large proportion due to the fact that my mother refused to accept that is what I wanted and therefore refused to let me buy or cook any replacement for meat.
I returned to meat eating out of necessity but started to really research the topic. Three years later, with no mum to thwart me I returned to the vegetarian lifestyle, having found out all about the different styles of farming and knowing I did not want to eat an animal that had spent it's entire life in a small cage with a grid in the bottom to catch the droppings. I also felt it would be a healthier lifestyle for me and so it has proved.
I used to get colds all the time, now I very rarely do. I have bags more energy and feel good about my opinion and my lifestyle. So perhaps, if you stopped jumping on those youngsters who are just starting out with this lifestyle and quietly point them in the direction of nutrition, they can get to know what it entails and make an informed decision about the lifestyle they finally choose. I have no problem with people choosing to eat meat, why do they have such a hangup about me choosing not to?|||Gladly...your friends don't know what they are doing. They really need to get educated on what to eat so they don't get sick...it's really really easy to give up flesh and get healthy.
http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/ar鈥?/a>
http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/He鈥?/a>
I decided to become a vegan, but my mom told me that a friend of hers (who I know, and seems to be very smart) told her that every vegan she's ever known has gotten stomach cancer, and that veganism isn't healthy. This is the opposite of what I have researched. Does anyone know anything about this?|||That's called Full-o-crap. High fiber diets are actually proven to reduce GI cancer not promote it.|||The causes of cancer, including stomach cancer, are not known. You can only talk about risk factors and risk factors are not the same as causes. For example, never having had children is a recognised risk factor for breast cancer, but it doesn't cause breast cancer and the vast majority of women who never have children don't get breast cancer.
In the same way, insurance companies regard 'being male' as a risk factor for having a car crash, but being male doesn't actually cause car crashes.
As with most other cancers, the main risk factor for stomach cancer is getting older; 90% of those diagnosed with it are over 55.
Lack of meat consumption or lack of dairy consumption are not risk factors for stomach cancer, or for any other type of cancer - no reputable cancer organisation, charity or website lists them as risk factors.
A diet high in salty, pickled and preserved foods increases the risk of stomach cancer. A large ongoing research study called EPIC has found a significantly increased risk of stomach cancer in people who eat a lot of preserved meat, such as bacon, sausages and ham. The study found that this risk was greatest in people infected with Helicobacter pylori bacteria. Preserved meats contain chemicals called nitrosamines, which are known to cause cancer in animals. Some studies show a higher risk of stomach cancer in people with high levels of nitrosamines in their diet.
So... a diet high in certain kinds of meat MAY increase your risk of stomach cancer; a diet that excludes meat entirely does not increase your risk.
And there's no scientific evidence that soya increases the risk of any cancer, including oestrogen dependant cancers. There is no evidence that soya causes, prevents or in any way affects the course of cancer.|||It does seem a bit strange that veganism could cause stomach cancer, because all veganism is is NOT eating animal products.
Meat eaters eat vegetables all the time and they get stomach cancer too.
Actually, *not eating meat* puts less stress on the stomach, and, so, should *reduce* stomach cancer.
Of course, it seems that everything produces cancer if it us taken in large enough amounts (what they give lab rats is much much more than humans would ever take in)
I have also heard that water causes cancer. We know that breathing causes cancer (people who have never smoked get lung cancer)
Meanwhile, meat eating has been definitively linked to colon cancer.
Pick your poison|||I've always heard the opposite to be true. I did some searching and found some information supporting the opposite (that a diet high in animal products is a risk factor for stomach cancer and vegetarianism/veganism is a recommended preventative measure:
From Yale: "We found that many animal-based nutrients found in foods of animal origin are strongly associated with risk of developing these types of cancers and we were able to identify nutrients that presumably would be protective," said Mayne. "We also found that regular users of vitamin C supplements were at significantly lower risk of stomach cancer."
In a separate analysis of these data, the research team found that obesity is strongly linked with risk of these cancers. "The increase in the prevalence of obesity in the United States certainly contributes to the time trends," said Mayne. "Our results suggest that prevention strategies for these cancers should emphasize increased consumption of plant foods, decreased consumption of foods of animal origin with the possible exception of dairy products, and control of obesity."|||I've never in my life heard of such a thing. Veganism is what you make of it--meaning, if you get all of the nutrition you need by balancing your foods and taking supplements, you'll be just as healthy (or healthier) than meat-eaters. I'm not sure where your mom's friend got her facts, but they seem to be from pretty flawed thinking..|||my mom is a nurse and is very active in the health department. shes knows about me very vege and she said that you can have a higher chance of getting Alzheimer's if you don't get Your protein. the stomach cancer IS fake though. so don't worry if you want to be vegan then be vegan because you will be fine.|||if done right veganism can be very healthy.
but i am not a vegetarian to be "healthier" it's not about me, it's about the lives i'm saving!|||The only way I could see this is from too much tofu or because the vegan hasn't gotten enough nutrients that ward off cancer. Perticulary B12 which is made only in animals.|||Really? Do you REALLY think that you will get cancer if you eat fruits and vegetables instead of bacon? REALLY? Be logical.|||Oh YaY! Another one of the "vegan causes __________" questions!
So your mom said that her friend said that supposedly every vegan she has ever known has had stomach cancer. Exactly how many vegans has she known? Were they eating a healthy vegan diet based around fruits, veggies, nuts, grains, etc? Or were they eating sugared cereals and processed crap and calling it a diet? How long were they vegan before they found out about their stomach cancer?
Imagine this: All the millions of vegans on the planet (like myself and boyfriend) who are vegans and have been so for years that don't have stomach cancer. Has your moms friend ever known a meat eater who had heart disease? And yet they kept piling away at ribs, steak, and pork!
And to the girl whos mother said that vegetarianism causes Alzhiemers, tell your mom I said go back to school. First of all, she's a nurse not a real doctor. This is why people call nurses quacks because when she says ignorant things like this, that's exactly what she is!
The reason that vegetarians have to be concerned with Alzheimers is not due to protein but it is due to B12 because B12 grows on bacteria. And what has a great source of bacteria? Rotting meat. You can tell your mother that and you can also tell her that 99% of vegans have no problem getting enough protein as protein is found in fruits and veggies as well as in soy products, etc.
As for the girl who asked this, if you are planning to make veganism your lifestyle instead of just a fad, you are going to have a tough time if you listen to all the garbage that people throw at you about veganism. Good luck and use YOUR head and ignore the crap that ignorant people say. They haven't spent one day as a vegan so what the heck do they know??
And about the B12, B12 is fortified in most vegan foods and is naturally found in things like nutritional yeast, so getting enough B12 isn't a problem either.|||She probably said that because typically vegans consume a lot of soy to get enough protein. Soy greatly increases your risk of cancer.
Here are a couple of facts for you:
Myth: Soy estrogens (isoflavones) are good for you.
Truth: Soy isoflavones are phyto-endocrine disrupters. At dietary levels, they can prevent ovulation and stimulate the growth of cancer cells. Eating as little as 30 grams (about 4 tablespoons) of soy per day can result in hypothyroidism with symptoms of lethargy, constipation, weight gain and fatigue.
Myth: Soy foods are safe and beneficial for women to use in their postmenopausal years.
Truth: Soy foods can stimulate the growth of estrogen-dependent tumors and cause thyroid problems. Low thyroid function is associated with difficulties in menopause.
Consumption of unfermented soy products is probably not such a good idea. Unfermented soy contains high levels of a number of compounds that can: block the absorption of calcium, magnesium, iron and zinc; stunt growth; and alter hormone levels, disrupting menstruation, lowering testosterone, increasing the risk of breast cancer, and causing thyroid and prostate complications. Unfermented soy includes things like soy milk, soy burgers, soy hot dogs, and tofu.
Here's the link that provides lots of info about soy:
http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/basics/soy鈥?/a>
I believe that parents who insist that their children practice Veganism, particularly when they are very young, are putting the health of their children at risk. What do you think?
What about Vegetarian children?|||Not as long as they supplement their iron and protein|||infants and young children need a certain amount of fat to grow properlly. Actually, not jsut physical growth, but MENTAL growth as well. Your brain needs MANY fatty acids for proper development.|||nope sorry -- young -- like under 2 -- need fattier diets but they can be supplied by vegan foods. people usually make unhealthy food choices when they go vegan though -- like thinking a tofu sandwich is going to get it -- and usually it just gets you animal fats in the bread. there is a world full of foods out there -- you have to think outside the box.|||YOU ARE RIGHT|||I agree with you. Unless they are allergic to meat, they should be brought up to eat the full range of things our bodies are designed for.|||I think that it would be ok as long as the children are definitely getting all their protein and amino-acids from other nutrient sources. That being said.. most parents can't even get children on "normal" diets to eat correctly. In that case it would just depend on the parenting. Some people may argue that the meats, esp. beef, that children eat are harmful because of all of the hormones in cattle. With that argument then vegansm would be the way to go.
My mom believes that veganism will kill me just because she knows vegans that daily take shots.. Post any websites or articles that explain veganism can be healthy and/or post websites that explain food you could substitute instead of milk and eggs.. Please help me!|||Sure here you go!
www.vegsource.com
www.prcm.org
www.johnrobbins.com
www.drmcdougall.com
www.vegsource.com/esselstyn/
www.americanvegan.org
www.farmusa.org
www.foodrevolution.org
www.earthsave.org
If you happen to need more my e-mail is viewable just let me know!|||www.veggielife.com
veganism is healthy, but steak and beef tastes mad good... and its more healthy.... idk y u would wanna give that up|||i was a vegitarian a long time ago and i got sick and felt weak all the time so i wouldnt suggest it. Humans were made to eat meat... regardless of your beliefs.|||i'm a veggie -between meals and i don't need any ,shot's but anyway-start your own -web-of -lies !!!!|||Oh, right. The internet is SUCH a great resource for honest data.|||http://www.hacres.com/home/home.asp
Read the many Testimonials. I do NOT take shots. I do B-12 in liquid form, but have no need to do any other supplements at all. My Blood test always come back super.|||All diets need protein, carbohydrates, and fats. You can get each of those eating either a meat based diet or a plant based diet.
Where most people get concerned is over "protein" thinking that meat, cheese and eggs are the only sources of protein on the planet. However this is not true. All of the building blocks of all cells, both plant and animal based, are composed of protein. So broccolli for example is about 44% protein. All veggies have some protein...not as much as meat which is almost all protein. And in America, it has been proven that we eat too much animal protein.
Try EarthSave as a great place to start for a level headed approach to plant versus meat based diets. www.earthsave.com|||i dunno.. but its obvious..|||I would very much like to be vegan but have had no luck with it; photos of me taken during these periods look kind of skeletonlike, the bone structure of my face looks like a corpse raised from the dead or something, even though otherwise I'm not overskinny. I started having nutrition problems as soon as I gave up eggs but now I cant stand to eat them, I actually kind of vomit them back up raw. Last time I ate egg (salad) I was spitting up egg for about half an hour. I think part of it (not getting enough nutrition) might be that vegan food tends to take longer to eat (that commercial of the woman in the office with the carrots or broccoli for example, if you've seen it). I just try to be as vegan as possible--Hare Krsna religion says it's not possible to survive as a human without dairy products; I think I finally agree. There are websites that say it's ok but I tried it and it did not work for me and I'm very serious about wanting to be vegan. So far it looks like without eggs (which I cant eat now), I have to eat fish. But I dont have access to good dairy products where I live--the only organic milk brand they have here has Vitamin D3 in it, which I think usually comes from pig skin. They do have dairy cream with no additives though.
I'm not sure how natural blood types are, (I have Nazi theories) but maybe blood type has something to do with it. I'm an O+ but I've read type A can more successfully be vegetarian.|||Not honest ones, because it isn't completely healthy and is less so than a meat eating diet.
http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/鈥?/a>
http://www.mercola.com/2001/dec/29/veget鈥?/a>
http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/2/vegeta鈥?/a>
http://www.vanguardonline.f9.co.uk/00509鈥?/a>
http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion鈥?/a>
http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/鈥?/a>
They all have much more credibility than the propagandists at PETA I think, albeit it isn't the point of view you asked for.
Yes make me feel bad. I deserve it. You know how it all started too..it was i had this one thought. I thought. One bit of cake won't end the world.
Thats how it all started. Before that i was practically a perfect vegan for years.|||That's as bad a sin in veganism as a priest having sex with an altar boy is in Catholicism, or an orthodox Jew eating a pork chop.
You will have to do penance, and of course you will never be a vegevirgin again!|||As much as I'd like to think that you and Yada Yada are just parodying the sanctimonious attitude of fanatical vegans, I've known enough of them to suspect that you're both honestly expressing what you truly believe.
As for me, I'll just go on avoiding stepping on cracks and counting every light-post I see. At least that sort of OCD doesn't make people avoid me because they think I'm a total nutter.|||Well, I've been on a diet for a year. Virtually no alcohol, but the other day I fancied a glass of wine and polished off the bottle. So what, I succumbed to temptatation. I'll get over it and continue as I was before. Regret is a waste of energy, you can't change the past so get over it....ok?|||Well, you're not vegan are you, quiche, pizza, cake, all can be made,and bought ready made, vegan friendly and animal free.
If you were a vegan, that's what you would have eaten.
Eating egg based dishes would not be a consideration for a vegan.|||I already stoped consume egg and milk since May 2008.
This morning order a breakfast, the menu say it is vegetarian,
haven't read it carefully.
But what I got is fried egg mixed with vegetable, so I still eat it.
Next time must read the menu more carefully.|||Bad Vegan! Does that help?|||Why be such a masochist?
Get back on the horse you fell off of and keep going.
Unless you're into the laying-on-the-ground-having-a-pity-party thing.
|||You are a disgrace to Vegans all around!
Well, so am I since I'm only vegetarian.|||Well honey,i wont make you feel bad.
Seems your doing that just fine yourself.
Listen,we all have things in our lives we aren't proud of,but you mustn't beat yourself up.
God,i wish we were all perfect,but that's why were on this earth to learn and make mistakes etc.
I'm a veggie,been one for over 40 years,and i cannot imagine how you are feeling,but you did it,you have to forgive yourself and move on.
Why cant you eat vegan versions of your fave foods like custard and pizza,become a clever cook and experiment with recipes that are vegan friendly,you are like us all,we all have cravings,mine is chocolate,and my thighs will attest to that!!!lol.
Be a bit kinder to yourself,and start over again clean sheet from today,and just try your best,im sure your not the first or last to have a lapse darling.Good luck.Love Ann. :):)|||The world is just the same as it was yesterday or the week before so I don't think that you deserve the attention.
This is probably just a lame joke anyway.|||its ok, its hard to keep temptation away, i don't blame you. i wont make you feel bad because what kind of a person would i be? But i will say this, don't eat any of the stuff for as long as possible and you will be good again. Being a vegan is extremely hard for me because where i live every body eats nothing but meat and animal products.
its ok, we forgive you|||Next you will be nailing a catfish to a board while its alive and then tearing its skin off, justifying it by saying "Oh, everyone knows that animals cannot feel pain like we do" knowing quite well that all animals have pain receptors and suffer from pain.
And you will swerve your car to run over stray dogs and squirrels, justifying it by saying that in the city they shouldn't be on the streets anyway, knowing all the time that they have as much right to being on the streets as you do.
And you will take your knife and cut a strip of skin out of your mom by justifying it by saying that everyone else has a leather belt so you have as much right as everyone else to have one, all the while knowing that you already have a closet full off product made from the skins of Holocaust victims you bought on eBay from an old Nazi Gestapo officer who cherished them ever since his stint in Auschwitz.
There are many reasons, but a few of the most important are:
-Helping the environment. Animals raised for milking and slaughter produce more greenhouse gases than all the cars in the world.
-Helping to solve world hunger - hear me out on this one. Livestock being raised for slaughter consume a huge amount of grain that is disproportionate to the amount of meat we get from them. If all of that grain could be given to people instead, that would be a huge success for the starving poor in the world
-Helping yourself. Your body does not need meat, and it certainly doesn't need milk, cheese, or eggs. Milk is made by mother cows to quickly fatten and grow baby cows... not humans. A majority of people are lactose intolerant anyway! And every time you eat an animal product, you are eating all of the pesticides, antibiotics, growth hormones, and illnesses that the animal had.
I have all sorts of stomach issues like lactose intolerance that I had been trying to fight by taking medicine, but I recently became vegan and I have never felt better. I have more energy, have lost a few pounds, and haven't had ONE stomach ache. I hope this helps!|||hey just look at my answer here http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?鈥?/a>
veganism is good for ur health n the environment
http://edwardandsons.com/veganism.html
http://peta2.com/p2vsk2_flash/
books by micheal pollan or the juicing bible by pat crocker
n jacklalanne stainlesssteel power juicerpro from bbb its 150 bucks
movie food inc n video chew on this
http://meat.org/index-1.asp?c=gwapba1010
thats all gluck|||Because it's awesome for your health if you do it right, and it's nice to know that you aren't killing animals for your selfish desires. Not to mention, very good for the environment! :) It's a win win situation.|||some great answers too
have a star
its all been said
oh and there are some GREAT vegan foods to try!!
its amazing what they can do for you|||it's good for your health the environment your mind.
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.....and..you...get super powers. =)|||It is not the best for all people|||False. It's not.
If you saw your "long lost brother or sister" and he/she told you about the VALIANCY of veganism, would you GO VEGAN?
Would such love BREAK THRU in order to change you?|||I already am vegan and unless my long lost siblin was also I would not speak to them.|||No, I wouldn't change my diet and "go vegan" out of love for my long-lost sibling simply because they told me about the "valiancy of veganism".
But, if I had continued contact with my sibling and saw for myself the benefits a vegan lifestyle can offer then I MIGHT change my diet based on my own perception and evolving beliefs.|||nope. I love roast beef.
I've been vegetarian for over two years now and I'd like to become vegan (again).|||u become a smexy beast hahah but no seriously u start to feel more better and explore ur taste buds and other incredible veggies XD|||Lower blood pressure, low cholesterol, less risk of cancer, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, gout, ulcers and gastritis (assuming that you live a healthy lifestyle, i.e. you don't drink or smoke and you eat a balanced diet and you exercise).
The only thing that is lacking in a vegan diet is B12. This can easily be remedied with a vitamin supplement or nutritional yeast.|||You live longer and feel better and enjoy food more. As for B12, it's in marmite.|||b12 is NOTHING to do with meat. It is NOT in meat, only, it is prodiced by the fermentation of baceria, so animal meat has it only because they poop.
Marmite, vegmite. nori ( the seaweed paper) , all seaweeds, and miso paste all have it.
Veganism- no dairy glug in your intestine., I mean, cheese does nothing for you inside. OK it has calcium, blah blah, so does spinach and brazil nuits, broccoli etc
Vegan ism means you'll eat more nut milk, rice milk and soymilk, if not already and any kind of yoghrut or cheese is from nuts and soy, and other plant sources.
You will be eating ALL plant sources. This is great. they have tons on vitamins and minerals unlike dairy which has protein and calcium, but not as much of the other stuff in any way.
Less cancer, bowel cancer, stomach cancer are lower in vegan diets, also pancreas and anal cancer.
Less brain degenerative disease like Alzheimers, MN disease, and other forms.
You will have a faster residue turnaround- this is very beneficial.
Cheese I find especially noxious.
It has no fibre, it is one texture from beginning to end, and you know it sites inside you forever.
if you drink cold milk with melted cheese, it goes solid in your stomahc and takes forever to go through you , as it is all slimy waxy coagulated cow milk, which, when it is rotten and you know, leves a repulsive smell. Well, now you won't have that substancew inside you.
More room for the nutrients of pure vegetation to get through. Much better hair and skin, as long as you really focus on all the fats you were eating before in the dairy and eggs- having the same plant fats- seeds and nuts are HUGELy important to keep eating, ansd you will feel and look 10 times fresher and younger if you do this right.
Vegetarianism is sometimes called a good weay to lose weight, but I found so many people who end up eating cheese at every meal, and milk, cream, ice cream and butter and all the stocdy fatty stuff which isn't good at all.
So by going vegan you will only have non trans fat plant oils. ALl these oils do good in your body, your skin and hair will shine and your nerve and neooron functions will be really well taken care of. You never know what toxins and hormones are in that milk- in cow milk it is lethal.
You will be aeting more vital nutrients. Milk is not raw usually, nor cheese, and most of the live bactieria is gone.
It is hormone full.
You will sleep better and have better breath, and better digestion- less gas, less bloating.
Given that you will do this right, use the righ amount of legumes daily, and always raw salads and fresh stuff and good quality fats, and raw sugar whenever possible, all these things add up. Of course, you could start eating white bread and peanut butter, fried in coconut oil and chips fourteen times a day followed by twinkies, but don't do that.|||You can find them in a web search for "vegan health benefits".|||Health benefits of vegetarianism are enormous.
Basically plant sources are far greater nutritious than animal food. One cannot live eating only meat and no plant products.
here is why?
When you compare both of them animal sources are not only lacking in many essential compounds like folic acid, carotenes, and many phytonutrients but contain certain harmful compounds such as cholesterol, trans fats in significant levels.
Scientific studies proved that vegetarian food offers protection against colon, liver, ovarian, breast..etc cancers and helps reduce coronary heart disease risk, stroke and obesity.
Vegetables, fruits, herbs, and spices are rich source of anti-oxidants, minerals, vitamins and health benefiting phyto-nutrients like dietary fiber.|||they are no better than all of us who pound butter,,,,,,,,,,and butter tastes better,lol,,,,,,i know a few driven to not cause hurt to this planet and i do believe the warming is real,, i weigh 165LBS and have since the 70's,,,,,Vegan's denigh pleasure,,,,,|||well there are some definate disadvantages, you miss alot of minerals from meat and on avarage people who eat meat and veggies live longer and healthier because they get fiber and the best of both food groups pills and suppliments can only do so much|||More meat for the rest of the world.
Vegans are generally represented as a "fringe" or even "extreme" group, like the act of not eating meat and dairy is completely bizarre, while the abuses of the animal agriculture industry are implicitly accepted.
Generally any coverage is highly negative: while the vast majority of vegans are healthy, and we have much lower rates of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease than the average meat-eating public, exceptional cases like ignorant, uninformed parents who feed their infants a "vegan" diet of nothing but apple juice and soy milk are given plenty of press coverage.
The vegan diets of numerous celebrities, such as Natalie Portman, Pamela Anderson, Moby, Shania Twain, and Tobey Maquire are almost never mentioned, while they are otherwise considered members of Hollywood/entertainment royalty.
If a "vegan" appears in a sitcom or drama, we will likely be portrayed as either a flakey, new-agey crystal-gazing throwback to the 60s, or a stridently offensive ideologue preaching to everyone in their vicinity. Positive portrayals are rare.
That means we vegans have a lot of work to do when it comes to public relations, and people's perception of us. Being the "preachy vegan" just turns people off, as does living up to other negative stereotypes, or being uninformed about diet & nutrition so that we suffer adverse health effects as a result of being vegan. By being reasonable with those who disagree with us, not making vegans look like complete freaks, and ensuring that we are eating healthy and well-balanced diets, we will help make veganism look like a valid lifestyle choice.|||i think they keep it quiet,
they don't want to give us coverage, unless its negative|||It's in the news and other media from time to time. Oprah tried veganism earlier this year as well. And it was on cnn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYX18NGTw鈥?/a>
I'm sure the internet has had a big impact on the increase in vegans in recent years.|||It promotes it.
Helps people better understand veganism.|||nerdy_vegan is the sh!t!|||It's not really in the media as much as vegetarianism, and if it is, both diets, it seems like it's some extreme activist group making a bad name for the rest of us. Though ti's good to know that celebrities hold benefits and speak out against cruelty towards animals. They make everything we believe in positive.
if asked to explain (in detail) why you would choose one or the other, what would your answer be?|||veganism,because being a vegetarian is such a trend today.And when you know someone who is vegan it says alot about the person,they have alot of self control and very compassionate people to give up all that stuff for their beliefs.Alot of vegetarians who go back to eating meat probably look back and say what was I thinking,like how people look back at the 80's and see themselves wearing neon colors.And some people become vegetarian just for some social status or to get attention from others.|||if i had a choice between those two, i'd choose being a vegetarian because homo sapiens (human beings) are naturally omnivourus. As humans it is nature for us to have meat in our diets along with vegetables. Being vegetarian is a choice culturally, and they can eat milk products and fish, which are good source of protein. but vegans (also cultural part of human choice) are strictly on greens and other types of non-meat food. So if you're a vegan, you kinda deprive yourself against nature. this means that you're trying to defy what human history has been eating since the beginning of human history. Plus since protein is important for life function and it is found mostly in meat, vegans have to search for an alternative that's probably not as good of a source.
So, i would choose being a vegetarian because although some peole will choose not to eat meat, at least there are still other choices, like fish and milk, that help the body function strongly.|||ive just became a vegetarian about a year ago..and to me..it was surprisingly easy to give up meat..i chose to become one after getting acquainted with a new friend, who happens to be a vegetarian..and she introduced me to all the vegetarian food and restaurants around the area..n i just happen to fall in love with vegetarianism..it's sad how ppl think it's just a fad..being a vegetarian is a lifestyle..its not about being cool..or trying to stand out..and it makes me feel good about myself..my advice to people who's thinking of going vego..well..just take time to think about it and getting to know all the different kinds of food..some ppl may like it..some ppl wont..and ppl will have different reasons of why they decide to become one..and there's absolutely no wrong reason...cheers =)|||Determine your needs.. If starting out "Veggie" then going Vegan..happens allot.
I am Vegan because my health is Optimum by doing so. Certain times of the year I do RAW. I have no spiel on animals rights etc. except that the Bible states we are to take care of them. Any abuse is not care.
The websites here show you Health benefits to being VEGAN:
http://www.hacres.com/home/home.asp
http://www.thegardendiet.com/
http://www.rawfamily.com/|||Eww, if I was forced to? Well, I love meat and milk and everything, so it would be hard. But Veganism is being real. Vegetarians are kind of considered posers nowadays. If you become vegan, you don't eat much, but you're super healthy. You don't eat ice cream, baked goods, meat, cheese, normal pizza and so on. And I have this vegan friend who talks about how vegeterians are posers, and the vegan diet has certainly made her body look nice. She's super skinny yet manages to keep fat where it counts. It's pretty healthy. Vegeterians can eat practically anything in comparison.|||Most of us wish to be compassionate individuals, and some of us, as part of our goal to be compassionate eat only vegetarian foods. Many people who are vegetarian feel quite comfortable eating dairy products since they believe there is no killing of an animal and assume that there is no cruelty involved in obtaining such animal products, as milk, cheese, yogurt, and ghee. Is this indeed true? A speaker at the Hari Om Temple suggested that there is great suffering associated with milk and other dairy products.
You should have been at the Hari Om Temple ( Medinah) on Sunday July 22! Dr Steven Gross, who is the co-chair of the Illinois Humane PAC ( Political Action Committee) spoke eloquently on the subject of "Raising of Dairy cows in the USA." What an eye-opener! The gist of his speech follows. Read-on!!
A cow by nature is a grazing animal who needs to ingest huge quantities of grass, typically walking 4-5 miles during the day. Today鈥檚 factory dairy farms seek to minimize human overview, and often confine dairy cows to their stalls. This confinement causes several problems. The cow, being fed a concentrated diet of high protein to stimulate milk production develops several diseases. The most common metabolic diseases are ketosis and laminitis, which causes lameness. These diseases are extremely stressful to the cow and often lead to the cow being sent to slaughter since no individual care is typically provided.
Instead of producing twenty-five pounds of milk per day, the factory farmer pushes the cow to produce one hundred pounds of milk. Pushing the cow for production beyond her biological limit causes other diseases such as, mastitis, a painful bacterial infection of the udders and milk fever, a disease that is the result of an imbalance in calcium and phosphorus.
Milk production is pushed even further when a significant number of dairies give their cows bovine growth hormone and sub-therapeutic dosages of antibiotics. These hormones are then ingested by humans and increase the probability of both breast and prostate cancer. Milk also contains insulin-like growth hormone, which is chemically identical to human growth hormone. The ingestion of this hormone is linked not only to cancer but to other chronic diseases as well as contributing to an early onset of puberty. For those of you interested in more details about the health impact of milk and dairy products, it is suggested that you read Eat Right, Live Longer by Neal Barnard, M.D. or Milk: the Deadly Poison by Robert Cohen.
The dairy industry likes to project the image of Bessy the contented cow, grazing on grass, enjoying the sun and fresh air. As noted above, most cows are raised in confinement, most cows do not graze on grass, most do not see the sun, few enjoy fresh air, and in addition many cows are mutilated by having their tails cut off without anesthesia, which causes both short-term pain and long-term suffering because cows use their tails to deal with the many flies that are part and parcel of factory farm life.
Contented Bessy never reaches old age, which is twenty plus years. Instead, she is sent to slaughter somewhere after her third lactation, when she is around five years of age. A significant number of dairy cows are so lame or so devastated by milk fever, that they are unable to walk. Unfortunately, these gentle creatures, are pulled on to trucks by wenches attached to their legs. This process is excruciatingly painful, and causes additional damage to the cow. In most states this process is legal. Thankfully, in Illinois and California, this process is illegal.
In order to replace the cows that are sent to slaughter as well as to have continuous milk production, cows are impregnated every year. Usually, half the calves are female and most are used as replacements for their soon-to-be-slaughtered mothers. Calves, who normally suckle between seven and eight months, are given either no time to suckle or a maximum of three days to suckle. The female calf is taken away from the mother and placed alone in a hut. The calf cannot suckle nor does it receive critical social interaction that is necessary for normal development. Mothers typically vocalize their distress and become depressed after their calf is taken away.
Male calves are either killed within hours or a few days after birth and sold as Bob veal, usually for frozen dinners. Other male calves are raised for meat, and about a million plus male calves are raised for veal. The male calf being raised for veal is tethered by the head, to an extremely small crate. The calf cannot turn around, groom itself, walk, or otherwise engage in most of its critical species-specific behaviors. Additionally, many veal farmers raise the calves in the dark and feed it a liquid diet containing no iron, therefore causing the calf to suffer from anemia. The air that the calf breathes is filled with the smell of excrement. The calf suffers from constant diarrhea, extreme depression, and the atrophying of its muscles. Within a few months the calf will more than double in size, and be sent to slaughter. The first time the calf sees daylight or smells fresh air is enroute to the slaughterhouse!
What can we do to change this horrible situation? First, learn that there are much better sources of calcium than milk. The healthiest calcium sources are greens and beans. In addition, calcium from such greens as broccoli is much better absorbed than calcium from an animal source. We need about 400-500 milligrams of calcium per day, and a cup of broccoli has 178 milligrams of calcium. Second, delicious milk substitutes are readily available in most grocery stores. Soy milks in all flavors, most of which are enriched with additional vitamins, rice milk, which is sweeter, and other grain milks are all excellent substitutes that are better for your health and reduce suffering.
I admire the tenacity and courage of Dr. Gross in this lopsided battle, where milk is touted as the perfect food and celebrities in their ignorance endorse it! See the PCRM website (pcrm.org): ( Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine) and find out what they have to say!
Mr A.N. Salwan, president of Hari Om Mandir, and other officers fully endorsed the ideas and information presented by Dr Gross and encouraged the congregation (some of the audience had tears in their eyes unaware of all this) to give up milk and other dairy products鈥?perhaps for one day a month, graduating to one day a week, and eventually giving it up entirely.
Dr. Gross is a selfless individual and spends hours and hours for this God鈥檚 work, fighting for the mute and voiceless animals that share Mother Earth with us humans and are treated so very, very badly!
One eminent vegetarian said, " If animals could speak and were asked what does the devil look like, they would tell us humans, "Go look in the mirror." We are not steward鈥檚 of the Lords creation as He intended us to be, but are the evil tyrants.
Let us change and learn to be compassionate!!! Be vegan.
Arrh, i've been writing to this site owner this week about many errors on thier site. they changed the semi veggie statement yesterday because of me but still miss the point.
the actual site owner are away for a month so if you want to bully them you will currently get the webmaster - might be worth waiting a couple fo weeks before sending them your comments.
unforunately thier traffic has trippled in the last month so they see that as vindication thier text is what people want.
The site also says "Never start with any diet, prior to get full information and evaluation from a qualified medical doctor in this specific field."...oh dear, we need a doctors permission to eat now !!|||Part of the vast confusion over what is and isn't an animal, I guess. Ahh, the internet, where fish and chicken aren't animals, but yeast, bacteria, and algae are. (Easily remedied by paging through your nearest encyclopedia or biology textbook.) I've seen some weird suggestions on what vegans do or don't eat... "Some vegans don't eat wheat gluten." Uhh, true...but has nothing to do with veganism!|||It's no different from all those websites that try to associate eating meat as being an acceptable part of a veg diet. Have you run whois on the site yet and cross referenced the info to any other databases yet<evil grin>?|||I love the internet, with it's non-yeast eating vegans and it's 'semi-vegetarians' (that's like saying someone's semi-christian, either you are, or you aren't).|||Bakers yeast is an interesting thing....if you put it in a cup of warm water with sugar, it eats the sugar and starts growing. Some religions don't eat yeast.
The main thing that yeast is not good for, (health wise) is that, somehow, it doesn't fully die when you cook it. IF you have candida or yeast problem, then foods cooked with yeast will make it worse!!
Thats about all I know about yeast.|||Vegans can have yeast, it is not an animal nor an animal product. It is a fungus, so you can eat it.|||Oh, I see, it's because some silly people think that yeasts are alive and can be killed by eating them.
Why do people freak out about it? I'm an omnivore by the way...(transitioning to vegan)|||People are not offended by vegetarians, they are offended by obnoxious people who happen to be vegetarians. And anyone who preaches that his/her lifestyle SHOULD be adapted by everyone is frightening enough just as Bin Laden preaching that everyone should adapt his brand of Islam or else is frightening. Vegetarians like PETA and their associates from ALF and ELF have already started out in this path of "be a vegetarian/vegan or else" by committing crimes against those who do not share their vision of what should be.
ALF and ELF have been named by the FBI as domestic terrorist organization responsible for at least 600 crimes. PETA has lent financial support to ALF/ELF terrorists.|||Well in my view, it's fair enough for them to ask about diets and cooking but sometimes you know straight off by looking at their question that they're just looking for a congrats/pat on the back. Plus another thing is, I find it funny to make fun of them but I've seen plenty of questions or answers that are making fun of omnivores but when you do it back to them they get very uptight and easily offended. Also, there's nothing more smug than a vegan speaking about raping cows (milking), eating dead rotting flesh/carcus (meat). I think it would be different if they weren't so smug or so extreme when it comes to their diet choices, that's why vegans/veggies get such a bad name.
Edit: this is a prime example of what I'm talking about. This answer is from snake goddess. "It's just ignorance. They also feel threatened by veganism, because they don't want to look at their own bad eating habits". That is a typically smug veggie who is too IGNORANT to see from their high horse|||I'm neither afraid nor offended. While I prefer to remain an omnivore, I do actively try to reduce/limit my consumption of animal products. I first came to this forum for ideas, but all of the back and forth bickering is actually pretty amusing, and keeps me coming back.|||It's just ignorance. They also feel threatened by veganism, because they don't want to look at their own bad eating habits.
People don't just wake up one morning, and decide to cut out meat and dairy.|||Only about "Breatharians". This type of vegan doesn't consume anything but water. Apparently, they get their nutrients from the rising sun. Seems a little weird to me.|||Who's offended? What's annoying is how vegans make such a big deal of it. Keep it to yourself. After all it's not a religion...or is it?|||People aren't afraid of veganism, they are just sick-to-death of vegans trying to cram their ideals down everyone elses throat.|||because if you try to convert me 20 times a day, i get a little bit pissed, and by a little bit, i mean a lot.|||because deep down they know being vegan is right, but they're too weak to become vegan. or they feel that my simply stating that you're vegan you are somehow criticizing their lifestyle.|||Because they don't do it. People tend to get scared/offended by things they don't understand.|||since the discovery of the protein, there has been almost a religious reverence for it in the scientific community. there is a belief that protein is what makes you healthy- beef, bacon, whatever- if its meat, its good. the truth is that animal products are actually not as great as all that- now don't get me wrong, a small amount of animal in your diet is good. but by small amount i mean less than 5% fo your daily intake should be from animal sources. otherwise, you end up with diabetes, cancers, obesity, and a myriad of other problems...
so i guess people are offended cause it goes against what they "know." people were offended when Galileo told them that the earth was round too- eventually, people will learn.
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|||When done right veganism is the BEST thing to do for your body. But if you like knowing the fact that you have caused a cow to be raped for it's milk and then beed put in a meat shreader WHOLE AND ALIVE then go ahead|||Vagitarianism is the Best & Veganism is worst in life.|||As a vegan, I think Vegetarianism/Veganism is pretty awesome.
Oh, and People Eating Tasty Animals? THAT'S SO HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL|||Discipline.|||good idea. i am a semi - vegetarian (not to be skinny, cuz red meat and stuff causes cancer.) you know that only 1 out of every 2000 cows in a herd is checked for disease?|||Each to their own. But stop the preaching.|||Evil people who worship veggie monster!!!!
i want cookie monster backk|||It is a very hard diet to stick to and get all of the nutrients you need to be healthy from.|||Its amazing. Its changed my life so much. In a good way. I'm a vegan fer sher yo. Haha.|||It's a personal choice. It is good for losing weight, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's very healthy. If someone gives up meat because of animal rights, I respect their decision, but it's really hard to give up meat entirely.|||Fine.......as long as you cook your own food. Having one vegetarian in the family is stressful when it comes to making family dinners. I know I have 2 kids who were vegetarians.......at one point. Twice the work.|||I am a proud memberof PETA!!!
and I think animal cruelty is horrible, therefore vegetarianism is completey the way to go(imo)|||i think it is a freat way to stay healthy but you have to eat a lot or things w/ alot of protien so you can stay healthy i only know this stuff because i was one|||Whatever floats your boat...|||I have been a vegetarian for 35 years and wouldn't ever consider lusting for flesh or eating animal products The desire leaves and after that animal products smell obnoxious, decaying etc.
After all meat is just slowly decaying pieces of flesh from a once living animal.
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I have two sons 26 and 31 who were raised on a meatless diet from the day they were born. They are still very strict with their diet and have no desire to eat meat.
So I have a good opinion about vegetarian eating. I do eat daity products.|||everyone to thier own......i have no problem with it....vegetarians or vegans have no effect on me...but i love my meat so it is not a lifestyle choice i could make.....|||it doesnt matter to me. its either your one or the other. as for me, i like my meat.|||I'll leave it to the vegetarians.|||It bugs me that they are always trying to tell me how and what to eat - but I don't care what they eat. I am a proud member of PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals ;)
Articles like http://web.archive.org/web/2005040201015鈥?/a> http://web.archive.org/web/2004110708452鈥?/a> and http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/鈥?/a> show that veganism/vegetarianism causes vastly far more animal death than a traditional diet. Keeping the least harm principle in mind, how can supporters of a Vegan/Vegetarian diet morally back their beliefs? How can taking away choices of food AND killing millions more animals a year be better unless it is part of your religious beliefs?|||Those articles do not show that veganism causes more animal death than a traditional diet. While those articles raise good points that everyone should consider, the fact of the matter is that animals raised for food in our society are fed plants that were cultivated in the same way. And as you know it takes so many pounds of plants to produce one pound of meat, and along with the faulty math breaks this argument apart. The argument for grazing ruminants is moot if you compare it to veggies who farm their own vegetables or buy from small organic local farms that don't use pesticides, etc.. These articles only talked about factory farming plants versus small scale free range farming of animals. Most animals raised for food are NOT roaming around grazing for the majority of their food intake. My fiance's family lives in France and grows most of their own veggies and get many of the rest from neighboring farms. The only pest control is a dog to chase birds away and a garden snake, who well, yeah. It's not like they put him there! And to make my point clearer, my future in-laws are not hippies by any means. That's just countryside life. I don't see how a vegan living in this environment is causing more harm to animals than someone killing the chickens next door.|||Veganism does not cause more animals deaths. I read that study about the Oregon professor before, he said that if ALL of the land in the US was used for farming that 1 billion animals would die per year. That is no where near the 26 billion animals killed for meat, eggs, and dairy each year. A meat diet isn鈥檛 sustainable. It would take up tons of water. And it isn鈥檛 realistic to have all free range cows. And plant foods are more efficient than animal foods. There is already enough food to go around, the 1.3 billion cows that populate the Earth consume the needs of about 6.8 billion people, more than the current population. It requires much less resources for a plant based diet than a meat one. Even if cows were all free range, you would have to still factor in the gas used by transportation, refrigeration, processing, housing etc. The least efficient plant food is ten times as efficient as them most efficient animal food. One acre of land can grow about 20,000 pounds of potatoes,but only 165 pounds of beef .The use of pesticides does not greatly increase output, organic farmers lost about 5-10% of the average toll, but they saved money because they didn鈥檛 have to pay for expensive chemicals. Anyways, we currently don鈥檛 have all free range cattle, and most of are vegan because of factory farming. Without factory farming it would be unrealistic to raise 26 billion animals per year.|||I buy organic fruit, and its all I eat, I don't see any death in being a fruitarian. plus, if one grows there own veggies.|||I don't care what they are. I like my steak and pork and chicken and , no not fish and rabbit and and and.|||Eat whatever you want just get me another beer.|||Well I really don't know about anyone Else's choices or why they eat vegan or vegetarian, but I was born and raised vegetarian. We had a ranch farm with all kinds of animals. Ours was for religious purposes the reason for our diet. I tried meat later in my life because the doctor suggested it for health reasons. But after adding it to my diet I found that my health and skin, hair, nails and just over all emotional and physical health suffered. So I returned to my vegetarian diet happily.
I'm not vegan because I eat cheese, eggs and drink milk. But I do not support any type of cruelty to animals except for the purposes of feeding, and necessary clothing! I'm Native American Indian so as you know in our culture and history we do believe that animals are to be used to feed, clothe, and only use what is necessary,nothing more.
(besides a great big "VEGAN PEACE" billboard, with lots of nice looking vegetables or peace flowers?)|||i'm really handsome and buff, so i'm gonna get a tatoo that says.,
VEGAN, in bold large letters, on my back, and i'll stop wearing a shirt so people'll know what's good|||Calm down. Do NOT preach. Do not assume that your way is better. Do not stand on your soapbox. I don't cram "eat meat" down your throat and you piss me off when you cram "Go Veg" down mine.
If you want people to take you seriously than you have to come across as rationale, sane and serious.
Treat people with respect no matter if their views are different than yours or not.
I am intelligent enough to grasp the concept that refined foods are bad for me. I can understand that eating red meat every day is not good for my heart. However, what I choose to eat is my business, not yours. And as far as the whole "don't eat animals" agenda. I disagree with you and nothing you can do or say will change my mind. For as much as it would piss you off for me to go on about "what about the farmers and ranchers, etc... and all the other pro-meat arguments, it pisses me off for you to go on and on about the anti-meat eating arguments.
You totally have to be able to argue from the other side if you ever want to get your point across.
By the way, the answer right below me is one example of why vegans piss people off.|||You will be wasting your energy no matter what you do. People who eat meat are rarely willing to even consider it, and cannot be swayed otherwise. Most are completely closed minded on the subject, spouting off ridiculous things about being "designed" to eat meat, controling over population of animals, having incisor teeth, and all other manner of nonsense that if they chose to listen, could be explained. You would be better off trying to reason sobriety to a drunk. Not going to work until they wrap their brain around it, which is not going to happen if they are already drinking. The best thing to do, is when people ask you for LEGITIMATE help and info, to give them the best advice you can. I like to think that the many posts I make here have are thought provoking enough to perhaps get the message across to a few people. People are rarely tolerant of ideas that are not the same as their own. I wont be a bit surprised to post this, go view other answers to this question, and find the veggie bashers nailing you already|||yeah thanks a lot for your thoughts BlueSea or whatever your name is...
i think the internet is always the best place for 'spreading awareness' - maybe you could write a blog or something?
+ in my xperience vegetarians (like me) are always willing to hear a vegan's point of view
i think paul mccartney was a vegan if you want some famous people|||i think the best way to get information out nowadays is through the internet. create a website, myspace, or some sort of forum, bulletin board, or blog where people can post information about being vegan. be prepared to get a lot of criticism though, because people are often not ready to accept others who have different diets and beliefs. people love to judge and discriminate, whether it's against blacks, hispanics, asians, women, gays & lesbians, or vegetarians and vegans. many assume that they and only they know what's right. know that you will not be able to change many people's opinions and make it clear that you are just putting information out there to help people, not preaching and try to convert. also, since a lot of people look up to celebrities and famous people, try finding a list of famous vegans to put on your website or blog or whatever. good tasting recipes are always good too. best of luck!|||You have to be an example of a person that people find good/honest/compassionate, etc... People generally respect others if they see those qualities. Then some might be interested in learning for their own knowledge.
Generally people will be interested in learning something if they want to. Although there are people who say they saw those factory farm videos and didn't know anything about it and then some of them changed their lifestyle. However I would suspect many or most are just offended.
I saw a long video of the raccoon dog fur trade (they've talked about this on the TV news somewhat recently), and it was quite gross. One person who also was watching was like "I don't believe this is real." It's kind of odd to see such reactions to live video of reality.
Some people do not want to know of the true reality happening, while others ignore it. It doesn't mean people have to change themselves, but it would be nice if people at least understood what was happening in the world. Humans can lack compassion, and they are one of the few animals that plot and scheme to humiliate, injure, and kill others for reasons beyond survival.|||I agree with Hayley and Jessica the internet is the best way. I have links on my myspace page for people to use so they can get information.|||I would do a poll at work of 100 people and ask them :-
1) Have you heard of veganism?
2) What do you know about being a vegan? Just to guage awareness.
I would give a presentation to these 100 people with a lunch buffet in between, except I would use analogs and do some purely vegetable dishes. I would leave at lunch time to not arouse suspicion. I would then tell people that our catering staff wanted them to fill in a 'happy sheet' about the buffet. I would send a volunteer of my own to collate the info.I would do an overview and a quiz. Lastly I would tell them that they had been eating entirely vegan foods and have someone video their reaction.|||Why would you want to do that? Leave people alone and let them decide what is best for them.I have been vegan for years, but don't walk around lecturing and trying to brain wash others.If anybody asks me something, I respond, but if you want to be respected for your choice, you have to accept others for their choice. By the end of the day, you might do more harm and put all vegans into a wrong light by become an annoyance to everyone.|||Check out Vegan Outreach's essays on advocacy: http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/in鈥?/a> and their Adopt-A-College leafleting program: http://www.veganhealth.org/colleges/
PETA has a website about how to get active: http://www.peta.org/actioncenter/
Leafleting in your community (at concerts, festivals, special events, etc) is a great way to spread the message. Posting videos on YouTube and other video sites is also effective.. there are tons of videos at http://www.petatv.com/ that you can post online (they're not copyrighted). Good luck and thanks for wanting to get active!
Hi, I was just wondering, are there any studies on how vegetarianism/veganism effects brain development in children? Would such a diet have a negative effect on normal brain growth?
If you could cite an actual study, that would be fantastic, and stories from people who went veg at a very young age are welcome.|||I know that if you're deficient in b12 that it negatively affects brain growth, so it's a good idea to take a b12 supplement.
Other than that, my family has been vegetarian for generations. We've got doctors, lawyers, business people, all successful, in our family. I don't feel like searching for a study, though.
Take in adequate amounts of B12, fruits/veggies, legumes, whole grains, nuts/seeds, and supplement with some dha, and your kid should be healthy.|||There is no evidence that being vegan while pregnant inhibits the development of infant brains in any way:
Sanders (1988). Growth and development of British vegan children Am J Clin Nutr 48: 822-825 http://www.ajcn.org/content/48/3/822.ful鈥?/a>
As others have pointed out, vitamin B12 deficiency during pregnancy can harm infant development. This has been shown to lead to megaloblastic anemia in the offspring and is "not uncommon" in developing countries, and neural disorders have also been observed (Stabler and Allen (2004). VITAMIN B12 DEFICIENCY AS A WORLDWIDE PROBLEM. Annu. Rev. Nutr. 24:299鈥?26).
So it isn't a vegan or vegetarian diet which can harm development, it is a diet which does not contain adequate nutrition. Provided the female ensures her intakes are sufficient, there will be no harm to the offspring.|||I only have anecdotal evidence that vegetarianism does not have a negative effect. I have raised my children as vegetarians and I've always aimed to give them a well balanced diet, but we're certainly not martyrs and the kids eat junk from time to time. They are both healthy and well developed teenagers. One is in the advanced stream at high school and is doing really well academically. The other qualified for the advanced stream but did not follow through with it, but is consistently top of his classes. They both have enquiring minds and mature outlooks, engage with the world, have large circles of friends and have academic and physical interests and hobbies. In short, they're perfect!|||I'm a 15 year old girl. Before I went vegetarian, I was making C's and D's and failing standardized tests. I simply didn't get the material taught at school.
Now I'm making a 4.0 and getting prestigious scores on standardized tests. All the material taught makes sense to me now.|||A Southampton University team found those who were vegetarian by 30 had recorded five IQ points more on average at the age of 10.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6180753.stm|||This one suggests the isoflavonoids in soy might affect a developing brain:
http://www.dafml.unito.it/anatomy/panzic鈥?/a>
This one that a lack of dietary fats (especially DHA) might affect a developing brain (veg*ns tend to have less fat in their diets):
http://www.aseanfood.info/Articles/11023鈥?/a>
It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.|||First find me one, then I can decide whether to listen or not.
EDIT: I think you're being a little unkind. Deer Hunter has a higher IQ than 40. You'd probably get a 50, just for writing your name at the top of the answer sheet.|||The two dietitians I've seen were thrilled with my veganism, and said they wish more of the people they see would eat like me.
Do you listen to the dietitions who tell you that there are no nutrients found only in animal products?|||Actually the vegan/vegetarian diet if done right can be healthy. I love the fact that I had such an impact on you that it made you go out of your way to make an account with my picture and ask ridiculous questions. Thanks!|||I've had dietitians following me down the street, begging for a list of foods I eat, stunned that my health is so good. They call ME.
Is there going to be a trillions of field animals question.|||I have never had a dietitian tell me that, or a nutritionist. If you eat a balanced diet, you'll be fine, meat or no meat. Can you please cite your source?|||John Robbins wrote the book diet for a new america . everyone should read this book . it's super informative about meat and dairy products and your health|||No,
they listen to all the other dieticians who tell us that veganism is the healthiest diet around.
Cheers!|||An IQ 90 and below is considered mentally retarded. 40? You must be brain-dead.|||The dietician I saw last year said nothing of the sort. She simply told me the best foods to eat.|||You are very dumb.
Because they're skeptical. They haven't tasted meat before - they don't know the "goodness" of it ;)|||Go away and stop spamming this area it is very stupid and immature...
Plus Bulimia Nervosa is no joke so just go away because you are not welcome here.|||Because P&S is schooled on everything from vegetarianism to how to make your dog bulimic...we rock like that.
And to little miss April D, P&S stands for Polls&Surveys, smart @$$.|||I love how people are always accusing us of being annoying when there's more people judging us than we're judging them.
Have a nice day, guys. :) Keep in touch.|||Because they're hypocritical veggies.|||that is hillarious|||'P&S, that must stand for pigs and snobs!'
Nope, on this evidence it stands for 'Pre-teens and Silly kids'|||because they're not as awesome as us|||ignorant hobnockers :||||because they are part-time vegans|||P&S, that must stand for pigs and snobs!
i've read Skinny ***** and Vegan Freak|||"The World Peace Diet" by Will Tuttle. Will change your life.|||from dusk til dawn
By Keith Mann|||Idk if this will be interesting to you but Hope's Edge by Frances Moore is a really great book about.........
http://www.bookbrowse.com/reviews/index.鈥?/a>
lol ...hope this helps!|||If you want good practical info, look in the introduction to comprehensive vegan cookbooks (my favorite is "Vegan Planet" by Robin Robertson). They give basic information on why veganism is good for your health and for the environment, and also give helpful tips on how to shift your diet. They don't go too deeply into ethical issues, but it's good for information on just the diet aspect of it. They'll also usually tell you how to stock your pantry (both food and useful gadgets) and explain different substitutions for meat, dairy, and eggs.|||The complete idiot's guide to vegan living ~ Beverly Lynn Bennett.
The complete idiot's guide to vegan cooking ~ Beverly Lynn Bennett & Ray Sammartano.
Vegan with a vengeance ~ Isa Chandra Moskowitz. (Mostly recipes, but with snippets of added information and stories. I asked for and was given this book and also "Skinny b*tch in the kitch" as Exmuss presents from my lovely partner.)
Now vegan ~ Lynda Stoner. (Again, mostly recipes, but she also includes a fair bit of background information.)
Becoming vegan ~ Brenda Davis & Vesanto Melina.
Maybe some of these books might be worth looking at:
http://store.foodfightgrocery.com/things鈥?/a>
I understand most real ales use isinglass for filings, Now I am vegan, so must therefore stop drinking this, unless anyone knows of any real ales that do not use filings from isinglass?
any brweries that do not use them?|||I'm a huge beer fan and there are a ton of micro breweries that do not using isinglass in their beers and do not filter their products through bone char. A lot of the beers I find are from England. And yes, isinglass does end up in a lot of beers and wines as a clarifying agent, it's made from fish.
Guinness is completely vegan as are Samuel Smith beers. They are my two favorites. If you haven't given Samuel Smith's a try, do it! You won't regret it!
Here is a list of vegan beers from the USA:
http://www.veganconnection.com/veganbeer鈥?/a>
Cheers!|||Take a look at http://veganconnection.com/veganbeer.htm
Also, if you are in the UK, here is a site with breweries listed and their vegan status http://www.btinternet.com/~p.g.h/vegan_b鈥?/a>
Isinglass is a substance obtained from the swimbladders of fish (especially Beluga sturgeon). Used mainly for the clarification of wine and beer, it is a form of collagen.|||What about the other product in real ale-yeast,are vegans allowed to consume that?
Then there are other finings agents-Chitin,Gelatin. again animal derivatives.|||You might get some answers from this site, which is an excellent resource for finding vegetarian and vegan wines, beers, spirits etc.
http://www.veggiewines.co.uk/popularbeer鈥?/a>
Most cask conditioned ales aren't suitable for vegetarians as they need fining, done using isinglass.
Fuy Gawks, isinglass is derived from the swim bladders of tropical fish, especially the Chinese sturgeon|||Have a look at this like. Quite a comprehensive list of what is vegan / vegetarian:|||Bateman's good honest ales! They carry the Vegan society logo. There is usually one of their varieties available in ALDI stores (in the UK) for a reasonable price. I can recommend the Demeter and Combined Harvest ones - very nice.
I've got a strong feeling that Shepherd Neame ales are also vegan - probably best to check though.
Happy ale drinking!|||isinglass?
According to the 1999 Meta-study, pescetarians had the lowest mortality rate. Vegetarians and people who ate meat only occasionally (like, a few times a month) had a slightly higher mortality rate. Vegans and people who ate meat regularly had the highest mortality rate. http://www.ajcn.org/content/70/3/516S.fu鈥?/a> You have to read it carefully.
It is important to note how healthy the diet is and other lifestyle factors. A vegetarian who lives off Cheesy Poofs and Red Bull, plays WOW and chain smokes, and doesn't do any exercise is not going to live as long as an omnivore who eats whole foods, drinks a lot of water, and exercises regularly. Assuming that all other things are equal, a vegetarian is less likely to suffer from certain kinds of cancer and ischemic heart disease.
There haven't been too many studies done on this, though. Here's a list. It's from a vegan organization, but they don't bend the facts. In fact, their conclusion is that according to the studies, a vegan diet is NOT necessarily the healthiest. Here you are: http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/dxra鈥?/a> One interesting thing to look at is the Seventh-Day Adventist study. Even eliminating alcohol and tobacco consumption (both prohibited by the religion), the vegetarians lived longer.
(Note: The second link provides "Cliff's Notes" about a number of studies... definitely worth a look.)|||I would take it this question is if all diets are done correctly. I think we could all agree Any diet is not healthy if not done correctly. With that taken under consideration logic would tell someone that the diet with the most options to choose from would be the best. Thus an omnivores diet is the healthiest. If done correctly of course. After all, if you put people out in the wild and let them survive on their own, most if not all would have to eat an omnivores diet just to survive. Humans are omnivores. Its natural, its nature, its healthy.|||I personally believe veganism is the best..
Facts:
Not eating animal products eliminates 40 diseases.
The number one killer in America, LDO-Cholesterol, is only found in meat.
Bacon contains nitrites which, once in the stomach, may form substances linked to cancer. Smoked foods also been implicated as having cancer-inducing potential.
Anaemia, appendicitis, arthritis, breast cancer, cancer of the colon, cancer of the prostate, constipation, diabetes, gall stones, gout, high blood pressure, indigestion, obesity, piles, strokes and varicose veins are just some of the well known disorders which are more likely to affect meat eaters than vegetarians.
Avoiding meat is one of the best and simplest ways to cut down your fat consumption.
Add to those hazards the fact that if you eat meat you may be consuming hormones, drugs and other chemicals that have been fed to the animals before they were killed and you can see the extent of the danger. No one knows precisely what effect eating the hormones in meat is likely to have on your health. But the risk is there and I think it's a big one. Some farmers use tranquillisers to keep animals calm. Others routinely use antibiotics so that their animals do not develop infections. When you eat meat you are, inevitably, eating those drugs. In America, over half of all antibiotics are fed to animals and I don't think it is any coincidence that the percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin went up from 13% in 1960 to 91% in 1988.
The healthiness of a vegetarian diet is perhaps shown most dramatically by the fact that lifelong vegetarians visit hospitals 22% less often than meat eaters - and for shorter stays! Vegetarians tend to be fitter than meat eaters - as well as healthier - and many of the world's most successful athletes (particularly those who specialise in endurance events) follow a strictly vegetarian diet.
It is the fat in meat that does most harm - and which makes meat eating an even bigger health hazard than smoking - but don't think you can avoid the dangers simply by avoiding red meat because you cannot. If you want to eat a truly healthy diet then you must give up eating meat completely.|||my take is to cut the following out of your meals: junk foods, processed foods made with white flour and sugar, and anything else made with white flour and sugar.
wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia has information
on flexitarianism at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-vegeta鈥?/a>
on vegetarianism at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetariani鈥?/a>
and on veganism at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism
you could use the one-phrase-a-search-idea on the internet with phrases such as: "quick and easy low carb recipes", "quick and easy vegetarian recipes", "quick and easy vegan recipes", and "raw vegan recipes"|||first off, vegans/vegetarianism are going to tell you they are healthiest. Their is no real proof the vegetarianism or veganism is any healthier then eating meat. If you eat healthy meat in the right amounts this in my opinion is what is best.|||Depends on the human. There isn't one magical diet that every human would thrive on!
Micheal Pollan put it best: "Eat food. Mostly plants. Not too much"
And: "Don't eat anything your grandmother wouldn't recognize as food"|||veganism|||A vegan diet is the healthiest.
Considering the laws of Kashrut, does being Vegan enhance and encourage greater Jewish observance?|||My Rabbi is a vegetarian (she may be a vegan), and I think it was for precisely the reason you stated. There was a rabbi who encouraged it, but the idea is far from universal. It all depends on how you look at it.|||Depends on your point of view. It does make it easier to observe all the kashrut laws since you don't have to worry about the status of the meat, whether or not you're mixing meat and dairy, etc. On the other hand, then you don't even think about the fact that you're observing some of the mitzvot--so maybe it makes it less spiritual.|||enhance how? would it enhance a jew more than any other person? no....
I'm currently a vegetarian and have been wanting to go vegan for a while now. I'm just not sure where to begin. I'm the only vegetarian in my family and they are all against it. They think it is unhealthy, so how do I do this slyly and without them really knowing? How do I begin?|||Just begin with short replacements. It's all really simple. Just Wring it all out so to speak and most importantly, DO NOT BE AFRAID to make this step. If you want to be open about it, that's your choice. If not, just act like you normally would.|||First do some research on foods that you can and can't eat, you will be surprised at how many foods out there contain animal products. Next plan out what you will eat throughout the day, what will you eat for breakfast, lunch, snacks, when you go out with friends...etc. Then just do it. You may find becoming vegan hard at first because there will be soo many foods that will be restricted from your diet, you will find yourself always reading ingredient labels, but it will become easier. Just know that there are many vegan options that substitute your favorite foods, so that should make it easier. As for your family, i'm in the same boat as you, they always tell me that its unhealthy, and that I need meat to live, and yadda yadda yadda. Just ignore them, remind yourself why you are doing it and how many animals lives you are saving.
Good luck!|||Just do it.
After all, she's never tried to force her beliefs on us.|||My family of rabid carnivores and hunters took it as a personal insult when I became a vegetarian. Maybe your family is like mine and they don't understand that your cousin's choice is an expression of her beliefs rather than an insult to theirs. Also, they're always worried about what I'm going to eat at family get togethers even though I tell them not to worry about it. Some people have the "I need to please everyone" mentality. Or might assume that your cousin is going to judge them for eating meat. Of course, I don't know your family so they could have different reasons.|||Im a vegan and I asked my brother the same question. He thinks its because people automatically go on the defensive and assume the person is going to judge them and try to persuade them to go vegan. Some people think vegans are all crazy extremists who will throw paint on people wearing fur coats. LOL...sad but true...|||Because vegans are dirty hippies|||Because we didn't fight our way up to the food chain just to eat vegetables.
In China..only Buddhists monks
In India..a lot of people|||Many Chinese don't even consume dairy products. I have meet someone from China who hadn't seen butter before working with me. I think it varies by region; China is huge. Many can't afford meat, but the people who can usually eat a lot of seafood and (surprisingly) pork from Iowa. I live in Iowa. Report Abuse
|||Hi Ewan, I would say it is very common in both countries. In india in a lot of places the population is too poor to afford meat and a few religions are vegetarian in their outlook to diet. In china in the rural areas it will be like the way it used to be in the west. if you can afford meat or you raised your own then you had it if not then you eat whatever you can. Although as in India there will be people who either prefer a vegetarian diet or will also follow this way for religious reasons. And as there are over a billion people in each country I wouldn't like to have to stand and cook for them all. I hope this helps,all the best. rab|||wikipedia,the free online encyclopedia has information on:
vegetarianism at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetariani鈥?/a>
and on veganism at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism|||In China, almost unheard of.
In India more common.|||Pretty common, although most chinese don't eat red meats, they consume a large amount of fish.
I heard like 30% of indians are vegetarian.. Not sure about vegan. Alot of their foods have cream and butter in them.
Notta DAMN thang...Vegetarianism and veganism is a LIFE choice, not that they MISS something...I always wonder why meat-eaters get aggravated at vegans, or more importantly even give a crap on our beliefs...I say mind your own frigan business...|||I am a new vegatarian and I missed eating meat so much that I became a second order vegetarian. Now I only eat animals that eat vegetables. This makes me much happier, following the path of vegetarianism and making the world a safer place.|||meat?|||my sister has been veggie for a while,she loves the smell of bacon cooking,but wouldn't eat it!|||A BIG GREASY CHEESEBURGER|||Meat is the obvious ans. but you also have to look at the vitamins and minerals that have to be replaced from that lost source of food and by products. Some adjustment will be need too. Being a vegetarian is not just about not eating meat, its about finding alternative sources for vit.n min. to remain healthy|||I dont miss anything about it, well my dad had pepperoni bread yesterday, and i guess i miss that the most. But i love animals so i dont miss it much.|||Nothing.|||I have only been a vegan for about a month, and I haven't had very many cravings. I've been told that normally you crave what you are lacking, so I suppose that is a good sign.
I'm not sure of everything I'm looking for in an ingredient list right now, and am wondering if you could help me out!
I'm looking into Franz Seattle sourdough breads. Here's the link to the ingredients label: http://www.usbakery.com/products/french-鈥?/a>|||I know that is is OK for a Vegetarian. You would have to contact the Franz co and ask or contact PETA, the have a list of VEGAN ingredients.|||I am not a vegan but nothing in that ingredient list looks like it could be animal related.|||That bread is vegan!|||I am almost certain it's 100% vegan.|||looks good to me?
definitely, i mean look at how far its come just compared to like the 1950's. it used to be incredibly difficult to follow a vegetarian diet and still go out to eat because most things had meat in them. now there are many more options due to the increasing number of veggie people :)|||I do. It may be that I have the advantage of living in a veggie friendly city, but even beyond that I see differences that I didn't used to see. Major shoe brands are making lines of vegan shoes. The vegetarians sections are grocery stores are significantly larger than they were 5 years ago. I think that beyond being vegetarian for the traditional reasons, being vegetarian is very eco-friendly, which is also in turn becoming more and more popular as people become more aware of the state that earth is getting into.|||Yep. When I was a kid I didn't find out what vegetarians were until about 10..let alone vegans. Now it's definitely becoming more popular with all of the celebrities doing it too.|||I would say that vegetarianism is becoming more popular/acceptable. Not a lot of people know what veganism is.|||Yes. I think people are becoming more informed about the chemicals and other things that are being put into foods.|||yaa. cause now its a fasion , not a belief..
along with JohnLennon, being a "hippie", and a lot of other stupid stuff.|||yes because the people who raise the animals put many different chemicals in the blood.|||ywa|||If u are asking if I enjoy eating veal,, then yes I love veal it's really when I'm driving my hummer around for hours on end for no reason
I just want the negative aspect !
I'm doing a persuasive presentation |||Well, it's unhealthy in some ways because you miss a lot of protein. You'd probably more hungry after a meal.
The social negatives are the fact that every time you go to a friend's house they have to make something special for you to eat. Plus going out to do simple things, like watch a football game, are harder because probably many of those stores don't sell tofu or stuff, just hot dogs.
Okay I'm extending my answer now I just looked it up, you might want to try this site
http://www.socyberty.com/Lifestyle-Choic鈥?/a>
Whew that's a mouthful isn't it! Also, I think being vegan gets you more attracted to sweet foods to fill that space where the meat has been. Usually vegan meals are less satisfying.
But the worse thing of all, you CAN'T EAT MARSHMALLOWS! Gasp!
Okay I'm adding this later on- Guys! She said list the negative affects of Vegan-ism! It's for a report! As I said down there I too am thinking of become a vegetarian! So don't get all mad at me!|||The only way you will lack protein is if you don't eat right. Just like with non vegans, if you don't eat a balanced diet you don't get what you need. Luckily, with being vegan, you get the HEALTHY version of all the stuff you need (ex: cow's milk protein actually can leach the calcium outta your body, and is more likely to cause things like kidney stones).
So that argument goes right out the window.
I'm vegan. To me the only true negative thing about being vegan is that I can't just go get a quick meal somewhere. Wendy's does have a "veg sandwich" (just like a burger, but with no meat or mayo or cheese, so just tomato and onion and pickles and ketchup and mustard). And I do not live in a vegan friendly area, so not many restaurants have actually vegan meals, like tofu based things.
Also, people ask a lot of questions. I really don't mind that... but.. it's the rude or ignorant ones that get me. And those people that think it isn't healthy. Ugh. I do find that I repeat myself a lot, too.
Then what do I eat they ask... and I usually say something like "All the good stuff", or "everything else". A lot of people do not understand there are MANY alternatives to meat and dairy and such.
So yeah, 2 negative affects of veganism are lack of convenience foods (which is actually kinda good, gets you cooking for yourself and paying more attention to what you put in your body) and ignorant/stupid people.
Good luck!!!|||Negative aspects do exist, but i've never had a problem with protein or not feeling full after meals, as has been suggested.
Sometimes, teasing and the same repetitive questions get tiresome after a while: e.g. how do you get any calcium? If we weren't meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? What if plants have feelings? etc. These are usually more to do with baiting and getting an emotional reaction than getting any genuine facts, and it's sometimes a little dispiriting. But these type of questions tend to say more about the people asking than about me.
As someone else has mentioned, not having vegan food readily when going out sometimes renders things a challenge. Restaurant menus can "lie" sometimes, with animal products on the dish that aren't on the menu description, and servers and chefs may not be clued up sometimes.
However, these are very minor irritations in the big scheme of thing. With a little strong will and character, and a tendency to ask for exactly what you want, you can always find solutions to these things. The benefits far far, outweight the cons. Unless I can somehow never find sufficient plant foods, I hope and think I'll be vegan for life.|||Health-wise: None, everyone I've ever known and their grandmother tells me how much healthier I look on a daily basis. However, I am a nutritionist, so I am extremely aware of the foods I should be eating. If someone is a vegan, but eats vegan junk food (yes, there is such a thing) all day, they might get sick - and then ignorant people go: "It's because they eat a vegan diet" instead of recognizing that eating junk is bad no matter what kind of diet one subscribes to.
I actually find it pretty funny that the schools put out so much meat-industry propaganda that many people honestly believe that they will somehow miss out on some special nutrient (i.e., complete protein) that only meat has (absolutely not the case) if they do not eat meat. Protein-deficiency was one scare, then the B12 scare and now I believe it's the Calcium-phenomenon, where kids are taught milk is the best, if not the only, source of Calcium. What they do not teach is how Calcium is absorbed, the dangers of Calcium without a balance Magnesium, and most importantly that even soymilk contains more of it than cow's milk, not to mention other vegetarian sources.
Lifestyle-wise: It can be tough to avoid animal products and only shop cruelty free.Think about it, a vegan cannot wear leather shoes or use lip balm with beeswax or eat typical "American" foods (that's really not a bad thing), nor drink tea with honey and lemon; everything from detergent to toothpaste has to be researched to make sure that the company does not abuse animals.
It's ridiculous that people even HAVE to do this research. Being a vegan has really opened up my eyes to where my Dollar is going when I buy even the most minute item. Would you honestly support a company that cut open dogs, deliberately caused blood clots and then pumped them full of grape juice just to see what it did? Unfortunately, this is a true story of what these corporations are capable of - not to mention all the political donations they give out; it's shocking to see how many people claim to be into politics, yet shop at corporations that give huge amounts of funding to a party they do not support.
And of course back to the health aspect of it, it takes a little extra effort to achieve optimum nutrition on a vegan diet, but that's only because the typical Western diet is very meat-heavy and not very healthy - people aren't always aware of what is out there.
PS: It's always good to add in opposing arguments (why veganism is good) and then attempt to rebut them as part of a persuasive demonstration. It makes your argument much stronger. I think I've shown an example of that here.|||u can't eat cheese, pizza,basically all of the good foods. I'm pretty much of a vegan. Then u miss out on alot of great food.|||One negative affect is ignorant people asking silly questions.|||One negative effect is people might think that you became vegan is because of someone..bla..bla...bla...|||unfortunately there has not been a full study done on vegans and health concerns with their diet however there have been studies done on children's growth and the effects of a meatless diet and have found that a meatless diet(no meat of any type including fish) has been shown to stunt growth and increase mental problems including seizures and mental retardation.here ia a story about a vegan family in arizona.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-05-1鈥?/a>
I am a Christian, very Hardcore, but I Jist believe Killing and eating animals is Inhumane.. But do you think it is okay(:|||yes, cause nothing about christ says we shouldnt eat meat|||Nah, it's because he's a christian you picked that. Report Abuse
|||Certainly Veganism could compliment Christianity. However, it would have to be recognized to be something of a deep personal commitment like celibacy. Something which, if you gave it up for the sake of a conviction rooted in the truth of the Gospel (say, in this case, for the love of creation and living things) would certainly be laudable. However, that wouldn't imply necessarily that those who don't join you are doing anything contrary to the moral law. Keep in mind that there are Benedictine monks who have similarly given up speaking or laughing for the same kinds of reasons - they felt a deep moral conviction, which they understood to be rooted in a vision of the Gospel, that it would be better to refrain.
Veganism for the right reasons may not be mandated by Christianity, but it certainly could be seen as laudable from a Christian perspective. Think of, for instance, Daniel's fast from eating pig in Daniel 1:8-12, which became a strictly vegetarian diet (not directly related, but worth keeping in mind).
As to whether it is morally right to kill and eat animals, it seems to me that it is. That said, I'd like to add the proviso that Christians especially ought to recognize and respect the fact that something had to die in order for them to eat the food on their plates. Animals are not put here by God simply to be used by man, but rather in and of themselves they give glory to God by simply living. At least, that is the Catholic position (CCC 2415-2418). That said, animals can be used by man as well, and this includes using them as a source of nourishment. The Christian world view recognizes that while an animal's life has value, it is not intrinsically valuable like a human person (since a human person can never morally be treated as a means, but must always be treated as an end, and yet animals may be treated as means).
Finally, Veganism implies more than just vegetarianism, and so I hope you recognize that, while what I've said could apply to both, it more readily applies to vegetarianism. This is because Veganism may be taken to represent an ideology which denies altogether than animals can be treated as means, but must always be treated as ends in themselves. This, however, is confused - at least it will seem to be confused from a Christian perspective, as this ideology contradicts the Christian world view.|||I understand your concern about being inhumane to animals, but in 1 Timothy 4:3-5 shows that eating meat is good although there are some meats that are not to be eaten (Leviticus 11). It is everyone choice to become a vegan or someone who eat meat, sanctified meats. It is not inhumane to kill animals for food, it is a different thing when you kill an animal for food compared to killing an animal just for the fun or pleasure of it. For more information on this issue if you believe the words of the scriptures, read 1 Corinthians 8:8 :)|||Not at all. Christians believe animals are simply disposable resources put here for us by god. They separate us from animals, leaving them to not think animals as having equal rights to life and the planet. I have found Christians in general have less respect for animals and the environment.|||I believe it is fine to be vegan and I believe it is fine to eat meat...it's a personal decision based on ones own journey, ethics and convictions...no one can dictate to another what they should or shouldn't eat...in Christ there is freedom and grace.
I Timothy 4:1, 3b-4 "Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits...commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving."|||I don't believe in killing those innocent plants.|||No I don't, but I am not a Christian. May I point out that your Holy Book says you have dominion over the animals? I guess you have to decide if that means you may kill and eat them, but I would say that it does.|||whatever you do, do unto God. not self-righteousness. you would call it inhumane for a family to starve to death rather than slay and cook their goat? or are you just against the systematic slaughter?|||If you want to eat no meat...that's fine. If you would like to eat meat..that's fine too. I don't understand something making you eat an animal. You should be able to decide what ever you want to eat.|||Killing and eating animals is not inhumane, it is nature. I'm sure your ancestors were thinking about morality and "playing nice" when they brought down that deer to feed their families.|||Well your bible hints somewhere that it is OK to eat meat and most christians do. Having said that, if you don't want to eat meat then that's not going against your religion.|||Atheism and Veganism go together. I don't take either beliefs seriously.|||I use to skin camels and drink the water from their stomach's when I was serving for the Israeli Commandos.|||NO!|||How do you feel about fish? :)|||it's fine you don't have to kill and eat animals and be Christian and all that non sense
Just out of curiosity more than anything, do any vegans out there have family who are absolutly shocked or even repulsed when it comes to your dietary choices? I know I get really tired of explaining my choices for veganism, and defending myself over and over. How do you deal with it?|||I am a vegetarian on the road to being vegan, but yes, I deal with this often. I used to deal with it daily, but it has cooled down after a while. My family believes that flesh is the only source of protein and that milk and cheese are the only sources of calcium. I usually try to explain to them about the benefits of a vegetarian/vegan diet and lifestyle, but I still get the feeling that they do not understand. They always make it out to sound as though I am making it up or reading invalid information. Personally, I think that they are just not ready to accept the facts, and their guilt tries to develop ways into pretending that eating flesh is ok. When I go to the store, I have to read every label, and that drives them beyond mad. The only way that I deal with it is to just ignore it or politely tell them to mind their business. When people always question why I am a vegetarian, I ask them why they eat meat. Does it matter? I don't understand why diet offends so many people. I guess new ideas are threatening to some. It gets annoying and sometimes makes me want to snap, but I just keep it in my mind that it is their personal choice to dislike my diet and that they obviously do not understand where I am coming from. There is no use getting angry and upset at people who are ignorant to this concept. Perhaps they will realize someday that it is the better road to take, but until then, just ignore their comments. You know in your heart that this is right, and that is all that matters!|||IM with you
My parents Hate veganism|||Well i麓m trying to become a vegebut my parents disagree they say i need proteins and where the hell am i going to get them but when i麓m 18 i麓ll really turn a vege i don麓t like eating animals:O(|||My daughter was a vegan for several years. In fact she convinced me to become a vegetarian. It wasn't until her hair started falling out that she decided milk and cheese were OK. 10 years later we are still both vegetarians. Sometimes even being a vegetarian bothers people and you have to explain yourself.|||Yes, I know how you feel. It's funny because I never even bring it up, but it seems like it's everyone else who wants to discuss my reasons then pounce when they disagree. Oh well, just stick to your beliefs. As long as you aren't hurting anyone else I don't feel it's anyone else's business.|||Tell me about it !!!
My mother used to take my kids out more often when they ate what she calls "normal food" but now that we are all vegan well I guess it's too much work for her to take them out since there's hardly any vegan restaurants here (Puerto Rico) and that would mean cooking aside just for them etc. She says tofu is nasty cause it's slimy and smells funny and she just can't cook it. Also her husband is always making idiotic jokes and comments about how tasty meat is and how good it's for you.
How do I deal with it ? I honestly don't know. But the funny thing is I'm an only child, so when the old hag needs to be taken care of her menu options are going to include lots of gooey tofu.|||omg tell me about it!!!
my parents wont let me because of my ion levels. i hate eating meat =[
someone on this forum said that being vegan for 13 years caused them not to be able to have children...??? they also say they were a healthy vegan...I dont understand how this could happen?|||No. There are lots of trolls in the forums.
The American Dietetic Association, the largest organization of food and nutrition professionals in the world, reiterated this year, "It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes."
"An evidence-based review showed that vegetarian diets can be nutritionally adequate in pregnancy and result in positive maternal and infant health outcomes. The results of an evidence-based review showed that a vegetarian diet is associated with a lower risk of death from ischemic heart disease. Vegetarians also appear to have lower low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, and lower rates of hypertension and type 2 diabetes than nonvegetarians. Furthermore, vegetarians tend to have a lower body mass index and lower overall cancer rates." http://www.eatright.org/ada/files/Vegeta鈥?/a>|||wikipedia has information on veganism at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism
november is vegan awareness month which was created to educate the public on veganism.for more information go to http://www.worldveganday.org
vegan world order has recipes,links to vegetarian restaurants plus additional information at http://www.veganworldorder.com
hallelujah acres is a christian vegan website and organization with recipes,testimonies on the hallelujah acres diet plus additional information at http://www.hacres.com|||It is possible that (for a woman) poor diet (eating disorders especially) could cause amenorrhea if you really weren't careful with your diet...This would make her unable to have children...
This person obviously wasn't a healthy vegan if they had serious health problems because of their diet...that makes almost zero sense.|||I don't know how a diet would cause one to be infertile. There could very well have been underlying medical issues that were not caught until now or what she thought was a "healthy diet" was in fact too restrictive, causing her to lose too much weight.|||@ rennee p: lol yes bunnies multiply like crazy :P
And yes, must've not been healthy. Like annorexic or borderline annorexic. But if that were the case then they would've missed their period and stuff.|||They must of been anorexic, my parents were vegan when they had me. Don't believe every myth you hear. Bunny rabbits have not trouble conceiving.|||I don't think this actually could happen, not from just being vegan, anyway.|||I am looking and everything I find says the reverse|||I have been vegan 13 years, and my son is 4 months old. I am a man.
Evolution does not but psychology and psychiatry does!
Do not forget that in evolution things can take the wrong path as well as the good!
Your mistake is in trying to justify your belief using a false premise!|||"I find it interesting that the American Dietetic Association recognizes the diet as nutritionally complete and healthful."
Because it IS "nutritionally complete and healthful" when planned properly. Nothing says that humans have to be omnivorous; we just often are. In the past, particularly, humans in some areas ate little meat and were functionally and largely vegetarian. The diet of the ancient Romans was largely vegetarian. It's only with the rise of agribusiness and large meat-producing plants that (some) humans have started to eat a lot of meat. In any case, veganism and vegetarianism are completely healthy.|||Nothing in evolution says you can't be pretentious and difficult about your dietary choices to make you feel better about your shallow go-nowhere life.
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE VEGETABLES?|||Humans are omnivores, we EVOLVED that way. We can digest autotrophs and heterotrophs, which has an EVOLUTIONARY advantage, because we don't rely on one or the other to survive, we can eat both to suit our environment.
Besides, humans live luxurious lives compared to other animals, so we can pick and choose what we want to eat. Veganism is a choice.
Hope I satisfied that innocent curiosity of yours.
Btw: How does Creationism explain Veganism?|||You assume it's because of evolution that vegans eat what they eat?
It's more to do with an individuals view on it (and personal preferences, somewhat. I mean, most wouldn't really enjoy eating bugs, but some are edible). It's not like we can only ever do what we evolved to do.|||It doesn't have to.
"I find it interesting that the American Dietetic Association recognizes the diet as nutritionally complete and healthful."
Correction, the ADA recognizes that a WELL-PLANNED vegan diet CAN be nutrionally complete and healthful. Subtle but extremely significant difference.|||Non sequitur.
Veganism is a workable diet when done with a civilisation providing the comforts and food supply comoared to having to spend hours a day foraging in the wild does not.|||The truth about veganism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqqGZBRBL…|||Nutritionally complete if you substitute properly for an ordinary diet (often, vegan diets give insufficient protein).
Don't see what this has to do with evolution...|||we evolved the ability to be able to choose what to eat to some degree, as long as our body is ok with it
not sure why you find it intresting, if thats good or bad, but cool :-)|||No explanation necessary or desired. Vegan diets are nutritionally complete with plenty of protein.
http://www.forksoverknives.com|||I don't think that's related to evolutionary pressures.|||It isn't that we love animals .
We hate vegetables and want to see them suffer.|||How does god explain veganism?|||It doesn't. It's part of nutritional science.|||WOW you must have a Phd....
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Enlighten us oh great one as to the wonders of creationism...|||it is, scientifically speaking of course|||Why does it have to?|||spiritually speaking if you believe evolution and you are not vegan then you are eating your kin|||I don't know, I'm atheist but find evolution...a crude explanation.
Vegetarians, as a whole, do not eat red meat. Some also choose to exclude poultry (pollo-veg) and/or seafood (pesco-veg). Because chicken and fish are indeed meat, it's debatable whether most would call it vegetarianism, but they are accepted forms.
Many veg's, in additon to actual flesh, eliminate non-meat animal products like gelatin and caesin. It varies a lot, though.
Drop all meat, but eat eggs and dairy, you're "lacto-ovo-vegetarian"
Drop all dairy products, and eat eggs, you're "ovo-vegetarian"
Drop eggs in all forms, but consume dairy, you're "lacto-vegetarian"
No eggs OR dairy, plus, no non-meat animal products, including honey, and you're, by definition, "vegan".
Go even further, and eat only plants and plant products (nothing grown with bacteria), and you're "macrobiotic" *please note, some macrobiotics DO eat meat. There's more to the philosophy than being non-meat-eaters. So, it's not technically a form of vegetarianism*
Vow not to cook your food, or do anything but pick and eat, and you're "raw-vegan", "raw-macrobiotic", or just "raw".
SO, to answer your question, there are, in fact, EIGHT forms af vegetarianism. (macro's don't count) pollo, pesco, pollo-pesco, ovo, lacto, lacto-ovo, vegan, and raw.
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veg, myself (l-o-veg, in case you're curious)|||Vegans do not eat anything with animal products in it, like even milk/cheese, etc.
Vegetarians may eat animal products, but not meat. Some may eat eggs.|||Vegans don't eat any animal products at all, including all dairy foods, like cheese and milk. The strictest Vegans don't eat honey and some don't eat yogurt or yeast, on the reasoning that those are live organisms.
Vegetarians will eat animal products, but not the animals.|||Vegan's don't eat any diary products; cheese, milk, butter, etc, eggs.
Vegetarian's do eat diary products and some things that contain eggs in them.|||Vegans don't eat meat or anyanimal product and don't believe in killing animalds for their hide.
Vegetarians don't eat meat but do eat eggs and milk and still wear fur and stuff.Which I think is stupid.
Thats why I am a vegetarian that does not wear animal AT ALL.|||vegans dont use any animal by products, but vegetariens do, they just dont eat meat.|||Veganism means that you dont eat any meat products, and vegatarian means that you eat eggs and some dairy products.
Friday, February 17, 2012
Is it ethical to spay/neuter rescued pets? Of course that it saves many lives but do we have right to strip them off their right to reproduce?
Thanks|||Hi A -
I will offer my opinion to your question.
Canines don't have the ability to comprehend logic as humans do. Humans understand what "reproduce" means. We have an option. Canines don't understand reproduction and naturally don't have an "option" - unless these dogs are surgically altered they end up reproducing whether they want to or not. So I would say YES, it's much better to have the rescued pet neutered or spayed.
On average, your altered canine (and felines) will live several years longer if spayed or neutered than unaltered pets.
Benefits of a neutered male dog - eliminates testicular cancer, reduces the chance of prostate cancer, less likely to urinate inside the house, less risk of developing perineal hernias, and as with most breeds of dogs helps the training process go much smoother.
Benefits of a spayed female dog - eliminates the messy heat cycles, the possibility of unwanted puppies, drastically reduces the occurrence of mammary tumors, uterine cancer or uterine infections, as well as eliminates the risk of complications from pregnancy.
I added a few links too. =o)|||considering over 4 million pets are euthanized yearly, i am going to say lack of testicles or ovaries is a good place to start ... what right to reproduce ??? when my dog gets a job and can pay for whatever puppies she wants to bring into the world, she will have the right to reproduce ... geez ...|||Yes it is ethical to spay and neuter. What does this have to do with vegan-ism, are you some kind of PETA nut.|||Um, well yeah, it benefits their health. Jesus, what has that got to do with being vegan?!
I mean for health and weight loss, NOT any ethical considerations.|||Paleo Diet. It has all the nutrients required.|||Actually, new studies have shown that fat doesn't make you fat. It's simple Carbs that do. They release insulin into your blood, which attaches to the receivers on your cells so the glucose can get in and the cell cant burn it up, then it gets stored as fat. Also, some fats are healthy for your heart and such. So, in order to lose weight and be healthy, eat whatever you want, but keep the starches low.
The way we have been conditioned, it just seems so weird to a person who eats like the average person. It was weird to me before I went vegan. Ironically, veganism should be the normal diet, with things like meat dairy and eggs being the added foods people eat.....
Being vegan is great, by the way.|||i'm not vegan, but i think veganism makes a lot of sense for ethical, health, and political reasons.|||it's a knowledge thing. naturally, the people who know the most about veganism are vegans (generally), and in today's world, different is strange. those who don't know the benefits or details about being vegan just think we're weird and different. i agree, it's the most natural diet aside from raw, and it should be the normal diet. it's also great. it's HARD, but worth it!|||Before I went Vegetarian, I had not heard of Veganism, but I was quite young/sheltered. After going Vegetarian, I met some new friends (...not related to going Vegetarian), one of which was an on again off again Vegan, so I was exposed to that. Found it intriguing and tried to go Vegan for awhile and felt like crap because I wasn't eating properly... Just was eating things that didn't have animal in it. Tried going Vegan again this past Fall, and have been very successful.|||Pretty much everyone I've met thinks its pretty out there... people view it as extreme, different, sort of like being on a no-sugar, a raw diet, an atheist, etcetera, to most people. Only one person has ever gone"oh, ok, you're vegan" and skipped over it. I think thats just because they're curious, though, because it really is foreign to most people. Not weird... just sort of not mainstream, if that makes sense.
That veganism should be a normal diet is an opinion, but personally I think it would be a nice change for most people from the SAD and definitely greener.|||i admit yes, it kinda does,
its something most of us cant understand well, as you say, we HAVE been conditioned, to see certain things as acceptable, food is one of the many things on the list that is affected by that
i honestly cant imagine what its like, its not easy to contemplate that kind of lifestyle
but then, many cant contemplate being vege either,where as to me, its just life, no problems at all, so, thts the point isnt it
i admit its mroe healthy sounding, but i dont agree it should be the 'normal' diet
part of the normal diet, or a majority of it yes, but we are by our biologcial nature omnivores, so meat is a part of that too, the 'normal' human diet, should include it
its our choice not to eat it|||I'm an omnivore and no. Vegans don't seem weird since there is a spectrum in all sorts of things. For food you have the meat eating Atkins folks to the other end, vegans.
Actually, what seems weird to me is people who claim to be vegetarians, but they still eat chicken and fish. Both of which are meat in my book. That's weird to me.
I, also, believe vegans are the true vegetarians. All the other types that eat animal products are just wannabes.|||Veganism seemed weird when i was a vegetarian. I think ppl frown upon it because it's advertised as "extreme" when it is, in turn, the most natural way.|||Yes, veganism seemed crazy to me when i was a vegetarian.
Even more so when I was an omnivore.
Then I actually learned about it.|||It doesn't seem weird, it seems like a pain in the butt.
I try to make one vegan dish for each pot luck we have at work (many vegans here) and researching ingredients without animal products drives me nuts.|||Yeah, when I was a vegetarian it honestly seemed like the weirdest thing of all time.
Funny how much things change! It seems like the only choice now...
Thinking back, I hadn't even heard of veganism when I was an omnivore.|||i think it's what ever an individual wants
my grandmother can't stand the smell of meat
i love it
not weird just different
i like different|||No it doesn't seem weird, and vegan-ism should be the normal diet is just your opinion.
"Vegetarians don't eat anything that moves."
"Vegetarians don't eat beef or pork or chicken or turkey or fish or shrimp or lobster or..."
"Vegetarians don't eat anything from a farm."
"Vegetarians don't eat anything with legs."
"Vegetarians don't eat anything with a face."
What's so complicated about vegetarianism that makes people invent their own crazy definitions of it? Is "vegetarians don't eat animals" really so hard to understand?|||It's a direct result of meat eaters who can't grasp the concept of "Vegetarians don't eat animals".|||They're not rules, but definitions.
Bascially, they are individual variations of the same theme. It's not hard to understand at all, not if you want to understand it. The problem is that omnivores tend to be scared of the idea or hostile to the idea, and belittle some explanations, so we just keep trying.
My preference is that I won't eat anything from anything with a nervous system.|||I totally see what you mean... I wish it were as simple as saying "I don't eat animals" as well. Unfortunately, not everyone seems to understand the concept of "Animal."
You have people constantly trying to bend the very definition of Animal. People, including "vegetarians," claim they eat fish and that they are not meat. It is ridiculous and silly. If everyone could use informed common sense to understand "animal" and "not-animal," I would have to explain my lunch a lot less often at business meetings. (As a side note, I wish I didn't have to explain a salad and fries with BBQ sauce, as I don't ask anyone else to explain his or her bacon double cheeseburger)
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In their defense however, there are many names for animal meat that are hidden in things. So, I can completely understand why people have a lot of questions about why I cannot drink gas station cappuccino or eat several types of bakery.
There are also different levels of being vegetarian. I don't eat eggs, so there is also the added complexity of that. I guess lifestyles aren't always so simple to explain.
EDIT- Oh yes, and (as I am sure you have seen quite often here) the non-vegetarians who cannot understand differing lifestyles always have to pose every hypothetical question and potential "loophole" possible to try to find any tiny way in which you might, even in some parallel universe, begin to eat meat or finally fall back into their accepted view of the universe. Unfortunately, we get drawn into said silly things... Thus, huge definitions and ridiculous rules are born.
I myself am now trying to lean more toward passive resistance and ignoring in said cases.|||So I can eat out in restaurants without getting into complicated discussions, or being offered fish.
You wouldn't be asking, though, if it wasn't for "I'm-a-vegetarian-but" types. Curse their oily hides!|||Because there are ALOT of people that think vegetarians eat fish and chicken. For some reason, people think that a fish is not an animal so it is explained in the simplest form so they understand. I have seen many, many questions like "Do vegetarians eat fish?". The people that ask are not making the "fish is actually an animal" connection so a very basic answer must be provided.|||Sometimes I tell people I don't eat anything with a mother because some people can't seem to understand that fish/seafood aren't vegetarian.|||I agree with you.
A vegetarian does not eat meat, fish, poulty or slaughter by-products
Its so simple. The defintion is in dictionaries and supported by the main vegetarian organisations in the world.
Just this last week I've had people tell me they are vegetarain and :
Its ok to eat fish
Its ok to eat beef once in a while
Its ok to eat cheese with dead cows in it
Its ok to drink beer with dead fish in it.....
to me its just a sad inditment on people that they choose to make up thier own definitions becasue they cannot be bothered to learn the real definition. Or worse, they CHOOSE to ignore it....for what reasion, i have no clue ?
"lovely"'s answer sums up your point. there is no need to say "i don't eat anything with a face". If someone cannot understand a chicken or fish is an animal then that situation needs to be explained to them. If you are a veggie, stand up and say "I'm a veggie", don't patronise meateaters jsut because they can be ignorant.
I often get :
me: " What vegetarian food do you have ?"
them ":We have fish"
me: no , i'm vegetarian"
them:"we have fish"
me: no , i'm vegetarian"
them:....etc
eventually, i hear a penny drop and they understand. No need to start on the "its got a face/mother" stuff|||Think of vegetarianism as a religion, which it is. Lots of rules and every vegan I ever met was as dogmatic as a Shia mullah. You're dead on right when you use the word "invent". And vegans pretty much all have that "holier than thou" attitude. I once had a friend who was a vegan and when he saw me fix a raw hamburger sandwich he tossed his cookies. He thought I should be dead. Been eating them for over forty years. I'm waiting for when some vegan discovers that all plants are conscious beings and suffer pain when harvested. (Plants do have a "nervous system" by the way) Then you'll have a new breed of vegans who eat only dirt.|||Vegetarianism is a diet. Veganism is a way of life and not consuming animals is just a natural extension of believing that animals are not ours to kill, torture, enslave, or dominate. There is nothing complicated about not eating meat/dairy/egg if you realize what they are... murder/excretions/menstral waste. Life taken from another being that you don't need, you just want and accept that you cannot survive without.|||Because there are people who don't understand these basic facts. If a person goes to a restaurant, says "I'm vegetarian" and orders seafood, then the waitstaff will assume that seafood is vegetarian (OK, maybe not but some will). Then when the stricter vegetarians go eat there, they get an unpleasant surprise. This is just an example. Like many things in life, there is need for a uniform code that people can understand to avoid confusion.
Nikkor,
Plants have a nervous system? Huh? Do you know something we don't? Shouldn't you be, like, applying for the Nobel Prize or something?|||We do it because we feel we have to define things in order to have a fully formed identity.
Or maybe vegatarians are hallucinating due to the lack of protein and say bizarre things.
Or maybe it's a conspiracy by meat eaters to make it seem like vegatarians are nuts.
Maybe it's a way to justify a lifestyle we know others don't agree with.
Who knows, just do what YOU believe in and don't let others you have to do certain things to be a vegatarian. Is anyone else craving bacon now!
UPDATE: Oh come on and have a sense of humor - I meant veggie bacon of course ;) !!|||My boss of 3 years just recently found out I'm vegetarian. Here's how the conversation went:
Him- "Why don't you eat meat?"
Me- "Why do you eat meat?"
Him - "I love it."
Me - "I hate it."
That probably didn't answer your question at all *sorry* but then again, we ADHD-types aren't very good at holding up our end of a chat LOL.|||I say I don't eat anything with face.
Reason: Because if I say I don't eat animals people say, "But you eat chicken and fish, right?" So that seems to clear up the confusion on whether a creature has to be a mammal to be an animal.
Psycho:
Good point. There are exceptions to every rule.
Here is a link that will be of immense help to you:
http://www.wellsphere.com/wellmix360/veg鈥?/a>|||You welcome.
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|||just google it.|||There is one called "Living Vegan for Dummies" by Alexandra Jamieson who is married to the guy that made the movie "Super Size Me."
Skinny B*tch is geared towards women, but they have another book for guys... Skinny Bastard.
Edit for more details: Skinny B*tch has information that is useful to everyone, male and female. However, the authors assume that their readers are women and frequently address them as such. They also include information that is more applicable to women (for example, how a vegan diet can help with PMS). So while you could read it and learn from it, it might be a bit weird at times.|||Yes, it is geared towards women and the authors do promote veganism.
However, I would *not* recommend reading it. It's full of pseudo-advice/science that contradicts what a doctor or nutritionist would tell you is healthy. Additionally, it's written in a very woman-hating tone that friends with eating disorders have found very triggering. It's not a healthy read, emotionally or physically.
If you're interested in veganism and/or healthy eating, there are plenty of great books on the topic:
"Making a Killing" (about capitalism & animal agriculture) and "Vegan Freak" (about why you should be vegan and how to be vegan while keeping your sense of humor) by Bob & Jenna Torres,
"Sistah Vegan" by A. Breeze Harper (about African American women and veganism),
"Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina (GREAT, practical health info),
"Thrive" by Brendan Brazier (about veganism and athletes), &
"The China Study" by Dr. T. Colin Campbell (why plant-based diets are the healthiest).|||The book is completely ignorant and doesn't bother to cover most of the facts about vegetarianism. And if you really are looking into a book called Skinny ***** as a way to change your lifestyle, don't be so angry if that's what you are referred to as.|||its generally just about being healthy and eating clean foods that are good for you. you'll notice their recipes and guidance don't include animal products....but all around its a good resource for healthier eating. just skip the chapter about why they support vegetarianism and you'll be ok.|||It certainly comes from a vegan point of view. It's not a vegan diet is the only diet and all others will burn for theirs kind of thing. But you can certainly tell where she stands on the subject. The recipes are only vegan or vegetarian and they do mention factory farming. I liked the book. It wasn't what I thought it was going to be but it was still good.|||I always wanted to become vegan/vegetarian and this book got me do to it!! Although I was only vegan for 2 weeks (its sooo hard) and was a true vegetarian for over a year, I have introduced fish back into my diet though...but its very informative!!|||Yes, but there is a book called Skinny Bastard for guys.|||Skinny B**** is geared towards naive preteens.
The dietary advice is given is the exact opposite that a dietitian or doctor would tell you. (Things such as "don't eat until you are ravenous", is the exact opposite of what you should do; you should actually eat 5-6 small meals each day.) They also have zero knowledge of farming, both crops and livestock.
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IMPORTANT! If you are a vegan please look at this link. Your health is as stake. This information is of particular importance to expectant vegan mothers and children. This sight thoroughly explains why the vegan diet is not healthful for expectant mothers or their children. It also explains why long term veganism may not be healthy for everyone over the long term. This is really some good information for vegans, and ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT NEWS FOR THOSE CONSIDERING BECOMING VEGAN! You owe it to yourself to absorb this information. For your own good and that of your children, take a few minutes from your busy day and take this in. Unlike many who are less than truthful and tell you the diet is without consequences, I do not have an agenda and am simply compelled to make people aware of the inherent risks associated with the vegan diet. Good luck to you.
http://www.mercola.com/article/diet/form鈥?/a>|||Much larger and more professional research than anything Dr. Mercola or his cronies have ever done has proven that he is wrong about so, so much. In my opinion, the advice he gives should be considered criminal, as encouraging people to eat flesh and consume other animal products is HURTING people on such a large scale.
Firstly, not all vegans or even most vegans follow anything near the Hallelujah diet. To equate it with vegan diets in general is insulting.
Dr. Mercola professes that you will probably be dehydrated if you're getting your water from juice and that he thinks the body probably treats juice different than water and we should drink 8 glasses of water. Okay, he's an idiot. If your diet is very high in fruits and vegetables you don't need that much water. And no, the body does not treat the water from a bottle or tap differently than the water from fruits and vegetables. Well, I guess maybe it does in that it doesn't have to filter out all the CRAP that comes in most water. And how can you recommend eight glasses of water for everyone, no matter what their size, fruit and veggie intake, physical exertion, climate...ugh! This guy is a quack!
I guess Dr. Mercola is smarter than Nature. I mean, if we MUST have sea salt supplementing our diets then Mother Nature must have made a mistake not putting it on our natural food supply, huh? QUACK!
Sure, b-12 can be lacking in some vegan diets. We don't eat as much bacteria (the source of b-12) as we did in our early years as a species. We're very concerned about cleanliness and so we wash away much of the b-12 from our foods. Animal feed DOESN'T get washed and so it is the source of the b-12 that animals eat and pass on to some of you through the parts of the animal you're eating. There are better ways to get b-12.
For Dr. Mercola to say that a vegan diet is to blame for some health problems in children and mothers is despicable. It's a lack of education that is to blame. Most people who see the benefits of a plant-based diet have to go on their own to find out how to do it right. We are taught all kinds of lies about meat and dairy in school and through the media, but there is very little education promoted about how to eat the way nature intended us to and that is a STRICT VEGETARIAN diet!|||While I appreciate that it's important to have arguments on both sides, I strongly disagree with this article's statement that people who thrive on a vegan diet do so only because they 'cheat' and eat animal products from time to time. As a strict vegan I can tell you this is not true! I can also tell you that since being a vegan my health, weight, skin and general outlook on life have improved dramatically.
I'm not going to bring up all the arguments here, but why should it seem natural for people to drink cows milk anyway? Cows make milk for calves, and humans are the only animals who drink milk beyond infancy. And as for eggs <shudder>!
I know many people, including myself, who live happy, healthy, cruelty-free vegan lives. And that's proof enough for me.|||I am always suspicious of scare tactics- does he have the meat lobby in his back pocket?
There is room for all of us and our idiosyncrasies.
I am a vegan- and friends with many meat eaters. In fact I don't know any other vegans.|||this site is famous for scaring people. they also claim that using a microwave is dangerous.|||Dude, I have been vegan for 2 yaers and never been healthier. i have been more energetic and happy. :)|||Please notice that the article isn't about just generally eating a balanced vegan diet, it's about diets in which you eat vegan. If you know how to eat the right things that your body needs, then you should be fine! I know that I have been quite healthy as a vegan, and from the knowledge that I have gained from people who sound just as educated as this dude (you know, DOCTORS?) a whole bunch of your article is nothing but BS.|||Fear-based stuff is everywhere.
Here's a vegan woman raising 3 healthy vegan children:
http://www.vegsource.com/|||WHY
DO
YOU
CARE?
You should raise your family the way that you want to and let others live thier lives and raise their families how they want to. There are other "causes" you should use your compulsion to fight for. Instead of worrying about what people are feeding themselves, take your energy and worry about people who aren't being fed AT ALL!
I hope you have a great day!|||NO I AM NOT ONE BUT CAN BE COME ONE|||Very Interesting....... I think a lot of people already knew this, maybe just don't want to admit it? Probably still won't admit it.
Had to give you a Star for this one.|||lm not a vegan-thanks for info anyway.
GO!|||You'll be too pale and weak to do anything evil.|||Vegetarians are at a lower risk of cancer.
Like the first answer, you don't hurt animals.
You are at a lower risk of getting high cholesterol which could lead to high blood pressure and heart attacks.
Vegetarians are generally mroe healthier.
The site I have listed down in my sources has a lot of statistics that you can use.
But in general, your health isn;t necessarily determined by if you eat meat or not. It is about how healthy your diet is. For example, they can be a person who does eat meat but no junk food perhaps, and a vegetarian who does eat junk food. So the vegetarian has a non healthier diet compared to the meat eater.|||animals don't want to die
you'll be skinnier than meat eaters
animals can feel pain too
if people didn't eat animals,the grain used to feed the livestock around the whole world could actually solve world hunger
you'll be less likely to get cancer,diabetes,obesity,clogged arteries,and heart disease
you'll live longer
people actually get more protein from veggies and grain than they get from meat
the livestock are given hormones and steroids to grow faster
the cows are hung by one leg and their throats are slit when they are still alive
the chickens and poultry are kept in small,crowded spaces where they can't spread a single wing
almost all male animals are slaughtered just because they can not reproduce
young calves are ripped from their mothers,some,before they can even walk,to be made into veil
poultry are forced to live in their own waist and dead brother-in
in every whole chicken,there is a little bit of POOP
you may say that you love animals,but if you eat meat you're a total bastard
when you're munching on that Big Mac,remember that it used to have fur and big,brown eyes
even if you are not the butcher,you are still the MURDERER
you may only be one person,but you ARE making a difference
it proves you have a heart
it's healthier
IT'S WRONG
and worst of all,
YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG|||1. Not funding the torture and slaughter of BILLIONS.
2. Not funding vast environmental destruction.
3. Your health.
4. Not eating blood, pus, and sh*t.|||We have longer life spans as prooven
we save 100 animals a year
we are less likly to get heart disease, cancer and diobeties wivh are the leading causes of death in America.
We are more informed about enviorment and animal rights.|||Vegetables are not as resource intensive to grow as animals. Animals need everything plants need to grow, plus a whole bunch of plant food.|||PROS:
Better health
Better for the environment
More humane
CONS:
Inconvenience of being vegan in a meat-eating world|||You don't hurt animals!
You're healthy because you cut out lots of fats from unhealthy foods
You're not putting horomones into your body from unorganic dairies and meats
that's all i can think of for now
write between 150 to 200 words and include in your letter:
-the kind of peope who become vegans
-the products that vegans eat and use
-why ou think veganism would / would not suit your friend|||Dear Friend,
I understand that you are contemplating to become a vegan. You should first understand the meaning of the word 'Vegan'. 'A Vegan' is one who does not use animal products. First let me tell you the kind of people who become vegans, then may be you can decide if you should be among them. People who consider killing of animals sacrilegious, wish to be vegans. The sages and Hermits who have renounced life tend to be vegans. People who suffer from obesity or any other heart ailment may also consider becoming vegans so as to lead a healthier life and save themselves from risk of losing their lives.
You must also know what the vegans eat. They eat only plant products. Plant products provide us with all sorts of food - fruits, cereals, vegetables, spices, condiments, oils and fats, pulses, leafy vegetables etc. So a vegan's platter is rich with a variety of food. No worries about it. You may have to forego milk and milk products which are of animal origin. In vegetarianism these are included but a vegan does not use these as well.
Be sure about your wanting to be a vegan. Milk and milk products are difficult to give up if you like ice creams, tea and coffee with milk, butter and so on. There is no harm in trying out being a vegan for a month or so. If you find it comfortable go ahead and become one. All the best to you.
Yours lovingly,
Print your name here|||Most vegetarians I know are not primarily motivated by nutrition. Although they argue strenuously for the health benefits of a vegetarian diet, many see good health as a reward for the purity and virtue of a vegetarian diet, or as an added bonus. In my experience, a far more potent motivator among vegetarians, ranging from idealistic college students, to social and environmental activists, to adherents of Eastern spiritual traditions like Buddhism and Yoga, is the moral or ethical case for not eating meat.
A typical argument goes something like this “In order to feed modern society's enormous appetite for meat, animals endure unimaginable suffering in conditions of extreme filth, crowding and confinement. Chickens are packed twenty to a cage; hogs are kept in concrete stalls so narrow they can never turn around.” (Maddox, 2006)
This in some cases does prove to be true, but is indeed the minority. It far benefits the farmers to have free range animals rather than to keep them penned up. When you eat meat, you are eating the muscle of the animal, and the more muscle they have the more money the farmer makes. Muscle growth in animals is extremely similar to that of humans. (Herta, 2002) Here is a hypothetical question: you have 2 men, 1 spends his life in the gym lifting weights and running, the other behind a desk and on the couch, which has more muscle/meat? This is why it benefits the farmers to let the cattle/pigs/chickens roam free, as getting a farm animal on a bench press is rather difficult. Being caged also makes for higher stress levels and stress hormones in the animals, which toughens and ruins meat. Few things about the caging of animals benefits a farmer, and truly is a rare practice, but it looks good on camera.
The next argument goes to the massive resources needed to feed livestock. Meat animals are fed anywhere from five to fifteen pounds of vegetable protein for each pound of meat produced; An unconscionable practice in a world where many go hungry. Whereas one-sixth an acre of land can feed a vegetarian for a year, over three acres are required to provide the grain needed to raise a year's worth of meat for the average meat-eater.
Where we start on this subject, is learning about livestock, cows epically. Cattle are ruminants, which means they can digest things we can't. They turn inedible roughage into highly-digestible meat. So what does livestock eat? Feed; comprised of leftovers, carrot tops, wheat husks, corn husks, grass, weeds, you name it; (Herta, 2002) All things unsuitable for human consumption. The way the argument is stated, it sounds like we pour all of our resources into growing gourmet crops for cattle just so we can enjoy meat, and this simply isn’t the case. Two thirds of the land in the world needs forage vegetation harvesting to prevent erosion, and only ruminants can harvest that forage.
A fair number of vegetarians don’t eat meat because they claim it doesn’t taste very good. I don’t understand this in the slightest, because to me this simply means they’ve somehow just never tried it. To taste meat is to visit flavor country, a magical and euphoric place. If meat tastes bad, then why do soy burgers and soy hotdogs exist? A product made out of a plant, meant to taste and look exactly like meat. Why go out of your way to make such a product if it was gross in the first place? An animals teeth, digestive tract as well as taste buds are designed to prefer the foods it’s meant to eat. A koala loves eucalyptus, but to us it tastes vile and is indeed quite poisonous. This seems to imply that if we weren’t meant to eat it, we wouldn’t enjoy the taste so much.
Now let us tackle their ace in the hole, the fact that killing is wrong. Understand that this issue is really about a persons moral standing. “We are so far removed from the killing of the animal that our meal just becomes “a piece of meat”” (Herta, 2002). What makes killing a human wrong, and a cow okay? Killing a buzzing mosquito is second nature, but you swerve your car to avoid a rabbit. What is it in the human psyche that differentiates, or qualifies one creature to live and another to die? Is it sentience? In that case, because an animal has a larger brain than another we allow it to live. It just so happens to have a certain organ larger than the other animal so it may live? To me that is ridiculous. How about because it can feel pain? This just means it has an advanced nervous system, so it lives? Genetically, a fly is more complex than a dog, yet we don’t shed a tear after swatting one. How far do we go before it doesn’t count anymore? The bacteria on your hands at this moment is alive, is washing your hands murder? It seems to me that all life has a right to exist, but at the same time life is a cycle. The sun feeds the plants, plants feed herbivores, herbivores feed carnivores. The morality of killing is a creation of man, a bear doesn’t think “poor salmon” as it breaks its back with its teeth. What we n
I know its not in the proper section.
I'm just putting it here so I can get biased-the-other-way answers, and see if I get anything good :)|||If it's not done sensibly, a massive protein deficiency. That's the big one.|||I am a semi-vegetarian, and what i miss is basically my favorite meats. Steak and Salami especially. semi-vegetarian diets consist largely of vegetarian foods, but may include fish and sometimes poultry, as well as dairy products and eggs.poorly planned vegan diets can be low in levels of calcium, iodine, vitamin B12 and vitamin D. being a vegan is tough, you have to check everything to see what is in different types of foods.just make sure your diet keeps you healthy and doesn't leave you feeling lifeless and lazy. The most common reasons for becoming a vegan are ethical commitment or moral conviction concerning animal rights or welfare, the environment, human health, and spiritual or religious concerns, but some just do it for a challenge. xD
I will expel Christianity from my life. For pain and eternal pain are too cruel for man to comprehend, thus veganism is apparent.
Does this make sense? what are your thoughts?|||Eternal pain is a man-made invented concept to scare the hordes during the dark ages. There is no foundation for this belief. Men into power and control over others yet again.|||To me--no.
You shouldn't become vegan or vegetarian because of religious values! Religion shouldn't govern what you eat!
Sorry...i'm anti religion.|||no. that is a mediocre thinking.|||No...|||No, this mad ranting does not make sense, sorry.
It is only modern day brainwashing that suggests "Chrisitianity" or "Republicans" are the problems in the world, when really it is liberalism, Democrats and the like.
I dont eat meat simply because I've never had a taste for it.
And after 2 years of being quite sick I recently found out I cant eat ANY dairy.
What do you eat?
What is your typical daily diet?|||I eat a lot of fruit. It is naturally sweet and humans are drawn to that sweetness naturally because we need vitamin c.
I would look into keeping nuts and seeds, preferably raw, around and almond butter(raw if possible) to make "Milk" with. I have a recipe if you need one.
I am not really fond of vegetables, but I eat them on occassion. I like potatoes, onions, garlic, parsley, cilantro(ocassionally), beets( root), zuchinni, sqash.
For a vegan, pasta with veggies and sun dried tomatoes is really good. Add a little oil with salt to make a sauce( very similar to margarine).
www.vegcooking.com has a lot of recipes, but I have found they are not easy to make. Plan for it if you are going to make any of these recipes.|||Well usually my day consists of lots of raw veggies (I prefer them that way),and fruits. But sometimes I do like to eat mock meats if i'm in the mood, just not all the time. I try to eat cereal with usually rice milk (sometimes soy). Also I will cook tofu. I bread it and bake it sometimes like chicken or i'll make burgers out of it and fry it in a pan (I never deep fry!). So that's usually what I eat throughout a day but I also like to bake veg@n cookies and cakes and other bake goods on occasion! And most of the time i'm drinking water or kool-aid, and sometimes I like to drink the V8 fruit juice! But rarely i'll drink sodas!|||Breakfast: I drink calcium-enriched orange juice every morning. Sometimes I'll have cereal with soy milk, or an english muffin with some jam or peanut butter. I have soy yogurt some mornings too or oatmeal. Sometimes instead of regular vanilla soymilk I'll have chocolate soymilk.
Lunch: Typically when I don't eat out for lunch I'll have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or some pita and hummus with fruit or a cup of vegan soup. Somtimes I also make a spinach salad with mandarin oranges, almonds, dried cranberries, and rasberry vinagarette.
Dinner: I'm not very good at cooking dinner, so when I don't go out to eat most of the time I end up making pasta (typically penne with marianara). I eat lots of japanese food too, so I like to go out for sushi (vegetarian sushi) and I'll order some miso soup with tofu and a seaweed salad. Usually I eat out for dinner or bring something home from a resturant, so the possiblities are endless. =]|||Usually I have a few servings of soy milk, veggies, rice, tofu, fruits, nuts, seeds, grains, breads oats. It depends on what I feel like that day.
Today:
breakfast = soy latte + home made date pastry
snack = banana + diet soft drink (yep I know soft drink is bad)
lunch = leek and potato soup with bread roll
dinner (in a few hours) = big salad wrap in lebanese bread with avocado, salad, with a sprinkle of cracked black pepper and salt. + maybe some hummus and mushrooms on the side.
dessert = usually some sweet william dairy free chocolate|||I've been vegan my whole life, almost, ever since i was 4, and now im 14. And im very healthy. I usually eat cerial with soy milk for breakfast, or a fruit. but you can also make vegan scrambled eggs out of tofu, and i put fake ham in it too and put green food coloring, for my little brothers and sisters.
Then lunch, lental taco, home made vegan pizza. and alot of people dont have time to make things like this, so you can make a fruit pizza, with your favorite fruits, and all you have to do is put it on peta bread, but make sure there is no whey in it.
go to vegweb.com for more great vegan recipes!!! :]]|||hmm well yesterday for instance i had
breakfast:
-bowl of dry whole grain cornflakes with some whole grain granola on top
-organic apple
lunch:
-2 whole grain toasts with natural peanubutter
-1cup frreshly cut pineapple
snackish:
-1cup white tea with 2 tsp cane sugar
dinner:
-bowl of whole grain pasta with homemade tomato sauce
-fresh homemade salad
i LOVE veganism<3|||Well, I eat alot fruits and vegetables, and then junk food.
Do you guys share my thoughts?
Freedom for me is freedom from disease, pain, premature aging and all ailments connected to this (which are degenerative symptoms), aggressive behavior, negative manipulation, negative thoughts and harmful power and control, including financial control, and it's my conviction and experience that fruit gives you this freedom.
No love comes from meat, because meat creates disharmony. Fruit gives life and spiritual growth. eating fruit gives peace in body and mind.
I am not trying to prove anything; I just want to show a way of LOVE without battles, wars, disease, conflicts, jealousies and mistrust.|||Eating has very little to do with " way of LOVE without battles, wars, disease, conflicts, jealousies and mistrust.." especially when families share a table and enjoy each others company whatever they eat..
Difficult to achieve peace when one lifestyle advocate refuses to respect others thinks he is superior and tries to impose his will on everyone else.. that's how wars start..
Reminder that Pol Pot was a vegan who ordered the systematic murder of 2-3 million people. Where is the peace and harmony and "spiritual growth" in that? Charles Manson, a convicted multiple murderer is still a vegan. So are the fire bombers/arsonists of ALF/ELF|||I was actually thinking about this the other night: How can we possibly obtain peace with other cultures and people if we can’t even treat animals kindly?
Every culture has their taboos regarding animals; the western world consumes a lot of animals that the eastern world may consider sacred and/or filthy, and vice-versa.
I feel much happier when I am eating fruit, I am glad to know that nothing suffered from the fruit I grew, cared for, and picked all on my own. No one had their arms chopped off in a slaughterhouse, and no animals or plants had to die in order for me to enjoy sustenance.
It makes me wonder why people cannot open their eyes and hearts to all of the beautiful creatures which suffered horrible, horrible deaths just to feed them. I fear that humans are doomed solely due to our stubbornness and ignorance.|||if everyone became vegans or vegetarians or whatever i would say there would be a lot of pissed of people out their and there would be more fighting and conflict. like it or not vegetarianism and veganism is found annoying by most people and it is an...alternative lifestyle (for lack of better words). people love meat to much for that to ever happen (i am one of them. i tried the vegetarian thing but i missed meat). and when people start to want something they cant have they get cranky. its just the way things are. dont try and think of things like that that would make the world better. think smaller. something you or a small group of people can do. because like it or not the whole world will probably never agree on one thing|||Nope! It can't lead to peace! I am of the school like rednecks with guns, you can take away my bacon when you pry my cold dead fingers off it! I know! I know! I'll die quicker than you most likely, but who wants to live so long and be a burden to their grandchildren and have to wear Grampers! How is abstaining from meat gonna make me financially stable? Just my thoughts! Vegetarianism would be so much more fun if there was bacon!|||It probably can. I like the way you think :)|||you creep me out.|||no|||You're not alone in that way of thinking:
I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.... ~Henry David Thoreau, Walden, 1854
While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal conditions on this earth? ~George Bernard Shaw
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. ~Albert Einstein
“I do feel that spiritual progress does demand at some stage that we should cease to kill our fellow creatures for the satisfaction of our bodily wants.” Mahatma Gandhi
“It is my view that the vegetarian manner of living, by its purely physical effect on the human temperament, would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind.” Albert Einstein
“As long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seeds of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.” Pythagorus
“It is necessary to correct the error that vegetarianism has made us weak in mind, or passive or inert in action. I do not regard flesh-food as necessary at any stage” Mahatma Gandhi
“Nonviolence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all living beings, we are all savages.” Thomas Edison, inventor
Hello all! =)
I'm doing a science fair project (read: being forced against my will) this year, and I've chosen to do a comparison study about the health effects of a vegan diet versus an omnivorous diet. Research went well, now I just need a catchy title. Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks! =D
Take care, everyone!|||To meat or not to meat.
Whats for dinner?
Food Fight!|||How about "Meats vs Beets"?|||People Eat Tasty Animals
I'm sick of these idiot hippies trying to make me feel like a killer because i enjoy meat and dairy products.|||Yes, but I don't see it going away soon. And there ARE some people who are vegans for very specific health reasons (you know, like being ALLERGIC to dairy or having cancer), though people like that often say "it's very hard to find complete proteins". I certainly like eggs and dairy products and don't call them "stolen animal products"... I even (gasp) wear leather belts and shoes.|||Eventually when they all waste away to nothing|||the sooner the better
Thankyou :)|||If you're interested in animal rights try
Compassion In World Farming - www.ciwf.org.uk (very scientific based on animal rights)
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - www.peta.org.uk (bit more activist style but still good)
World Wildlife Fund - www.wwf.org.uk
If you're more interested in animal welfare
RPSCA - www.rspca.org.uk
Blue Cross - www.bluecross.org.uk
Or theirs various animal shelters etc that always need helpers.
http://www.veganvillage.co.uk/charities.鈥?/a> lists several charities that support animal rights/welfare that might interest you.
Hope this has helped a bit.
p.s. I'm writing this as a meat eater whos very keen on animal rights/welfare. I have no problem with eating meat AS LONG as it is raised and killed in a humane, ethical manner and I have worked with several of these charities in the past. Please dont tar us all with the same brush as these other idiots :)|||I don't know where you are, but you could work for the vegetarian society (jobs here: http://www.vegsoc.org/parkdale/vacancies鈥?/a>
Otherwise you could work for a vegan or vegetarian food supplier or advisory board, or even a restaurant.
Or you could work for an animal rights charity like those here: http://www.animal-job.co.uk/animal-care-鈥?/a>
Ignore the other wise guys. :-D|||Animal rights organizations such as PETA and Mercy For Animals offer internships--that's a good place to start.
http://www.peta.org/about/interning.asp
http://www.mercyforanimals.org/internshi鈥?/a>
The Humane Society of the US also offers many job/internship opportunities:
http://www.humanesociety.org/about/emplo鈥?/a>
All animal rights/welfare organizations will have volunteering opportunities.
There are lots of vegetarian publications, like VegNews, so if you are more into journalism you could try to get a job or internship with them.
http://www.vegnews.com/web/pages/page.do鈥?/a>
You could also get a job at a vegan restaurant or a health food store.
Good luck finding a vegan job!|||Well it depends. If you work at an artistic kind of job, painting, photography, digital art, etc, then it would be the best forum for you to be able to your ideas into the world.
Check out Chris Jordans work for inspiration: http://www.chrisjordan.com/
It's more along the lines of a statement about consumerism, but the two go hand in hand.
If you're looking for something more technical, then check out these listings: http://www.veganjobs.org/listings.php|||well a job at peta may help for me. im also interested in a job related to my vegan lifestyle if u like sciences at all y not look into a dietitian or nutritionist? i told my teacher i wasnt so sure about it and he told me "as long as people are eating we r going to need nutritionist/ dietitians" and u can even concentrate on vegan/vegetarian lifestyles. life coach would be a nice job too|||Follow this link, It's a vegetarian society.
I'm sorry you get stupid answers. That's because they half less than a brain cell.
P.S I'm a meat eater.
You know that layer of fat you have on your belly? xD
by going on a healthy vegan diet, would it help you get rid of fat? along with proper exercise (cardio/strength)? is there something about a diet thats heavy in fruits and veggies, that would help out? any comments are appreciated.|||12 months of being vegan and you will have no more body fat.
Your body regenerates 99% of the cells in your body each year. If you only put healthy plant cells in your body, your body can only be created out of healthy plant cells. Plant cells cannot be made in to fat.
You can build your body "soft like a chicken or sturdy like a tree the choice is up to me"
The people answering this question are freakin retarded! Go to an organic vegan restaurant and look at the people who are regulars there.|||Nn is incorrect, vegans are not all fat, and its slightly harder to get fat on a vegan diet. And we're not mean, maybe some, but thats just because we're still people, and people sure can be mean, but I've never met a rude vegan (aside a few, but anyways...)
Sort of, I've heard of a few success stories of going vegan and losing "so much weight", but I for one didn't lose any just because of going vegan. But, include the cardio, you are SURE to lose weight :) Eat right, get your nutrition, and you're set. It would be somewhat easier than a meat eater diet due to meat having fat, and the eggs with their cholestral in them, for example.
So, yes, a vegan diet would help you.|||Actually, no. Most veg*n diets are high in carbs. Carbs are sugar. One of the most successful diets around is the Atkins Diet, high protein, low carb.
"According to a study of 311 women carried out by researchers at Stanford University, USA, the Atkins diet is the best one around. Those following the Atkins diet had best blood pressure levels, better cholesterol levels and lost the most weight, compared to people on other diets, say the researchers."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles鈥?/a>
"There's no easy way to lose weight and keep the pounds off. But the Atkins diet may have an edge over other popular diets, at least at first. That's the bottom line of a new study of four diet plans that found that the high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet might slightly increase the odds of losing weight."
http://health.usnews.com/usnews/health/a鈥?/a>
You just gotta know that these results are burning a hole in the gut of the low fat/high carb people! McDougall, are you listening?|||It is, but you could still be fat if all you ate was processed foods and a lot of oil and nuts. Just make good choices and exercise and you should be OK. Eat lots of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, and beans and legumes. Eat some nuts and oils but sparingly.|||Veganism can help with burning fat if you consume fat burning vegan foods and adopt a low calorie diet. Otherwise you'll put on weight just as easily as a the rest of the population.|||Of course it will. The reason is because you have no more animal or dairy fats which enables you to eat only good fats. Once you eat good fats and good carbs, you will not have as much cravings as a vegan eater.|||Actually, a normal vegetarian diet is usually more healthy than a vegan one, and you will have a lot more energy, too.|||yes that might help|||all the people who i know is a vegan is either fat or mean as hell
or perhaps bipolar. i think i read somewhere that maybe it's the vitamin B12 deficiency that can cause depression. if that is the case, will a vitamin supplement be the cure? or at least help?
should a vegan who suffers from depression become a vegetarian to help with any dietry deficiencies which might be affecting their mood, or is just an extra challenge the vegan should learn to live with in order to stay true to their beliefs.|||The answer I would say is "no".
Depression in my case was caused by my horrible life situation. Once I got away from that, my depression disappeared.
For those who are depressed for no reason, they are obviously out of balance somehow which in turn throws their body and hormones etc. out of wack.
Nobody has a lack of "eating" B12. It's nearly impossible. What the usual case is is that people are eating or doing things which are killing off the digestive bacteria. Eating crap food and things like white vinegar or drugs or medications such as antibiotics will kill it all off. Other condition will hinder not only the production but the absorption of B12 -- but I don't think B12 is the link to depression. Many things can cause depression. I was depressed for most of my life and I was nowhere near being vegan. When I became vegan I was not cured of being depressed (although I definitely felt 50% better). So, being vegan had nothing or little with the cause of being depressed. If one is having mood swings, its usually caused by fluctuating hormone or blood sugar levels. That's my take on it.|||"a lot of what you said was either completely fabricated or you've been fed false information." What are you referring to? My personal story, or about B12? Do your own research -- and if you are so well informed, why on earth are you asking such a question? Report Abuse
|||I'm vegetarian with vegan tendencies and I take a vitamin B12 supplement but I get depressed a lot.
Edit: I mean I am only vegetarian because of my situation right now. If I was in a different situation then I would be vegan. I try to eat vegan the most I can but I don't always. I think I made up the term.|||uh....that sure was allot of fancy talk , but uh all I know is if a ate like a horse or a cow , id be depressed. aren't humans herbivores?|||Get a few packets of EmerGen-C and have 3 a day, see if you feel better after a week.
Another issue could be a lack of folate, but unless you're a junk food vegan this really shouldn't be a problem.|||There must be a link. I get depressed just thinking about being a vegan.
Seriously though, if you're suffering from any vitamin deficiency, you either have to take a supplement, or you need to change your usual diet to include foods with that vitamin. Take whichever direction works for you.|||im a vegan with depression but i had depression before being vegan. it did become steadily worse after becoming vegan but i am sure it is because of the situation. my anti depressant works wonders :) i would never go back on being vegan despite a bit of depression. i dont think there is a link, personally|||As vegans we are so focused on our health and listen to so many people say that veganism couldn't possibly be healthy that we even begin to believe it.
All kinds of people with all kinds of diets suffer from depression - I am sure most are meat eaters who get plenty of B12.
I am not saying that it isn't possible that it couldn't be B12 deficiency but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. As vegans we all need to make sure we get some B12 - Just take a multi-vitamin daily!
I really can't see how eating cheese or eggs would lessen depression.
I hope you find a solution!|||you must be a meat eater|||Yes, it can cause depression. You cannot take B12 as a tablet or pill B12 must be taken by injection or up inside the nose.
You know, they have to kill a baby sheep for that, don't you? Seems like a waste of life to me. = $|||y would it matter what ur friend likes,isn't ur wife more important?|||what does your friend being a vegan have to do with the condoms you use????
tell her to get over it - your wifes needs come first
but you could have her go on some type of BC and forget the condoms...|||Why? Do you feed your used condoms to your emotional friend? That's just SOOOO wrong!|||You know you want to use those lambskins on your emotional friend! Go ahead, and don't tell her what they're made of....also tell your wife you're using lambskins alright....just not on her!|||wtf? does you friend go up to you and ask that kind of condom you use?|||try veg non latex ones
My position is that I'd rather be a plain vegetarian, but I can't see how veganism isn't ethically superior. What are the merits of lacto-ovo vegetarianism?
I don't mean that I wish you to bash vegans in the slightest; I just want to hear a friendly pitch for your side.|||I have been vegetarian for over 20 years. I get as close to being a vegan as I can but do consume some dairy. I am not sure that, for me, I can get my daily protein (which I am religious about making sure I do) without some small amount of dairy. So for me, the vegetarian lifestyle ensures healthy eating. I would be vegan if I thought I could do reasonably. Being vegan is very healthy and a goal, but much harder to do in a healthy way than just being vegetarian. This explains my journey if interested http://www.xomba.com/becoming_vegetarian鈥?/a>|||I am a vegetarian and I cannot explain the merits of my diet over veganism. Veganism is definitely the ethically superior diet. I am cutting down on dairy and only buy free range eggs from someone who keeps chickens in their backyard, completely free range and doesn't kill the male chickens.
Dairy cows are treated terribly. Dairy cows live for a third of the life of the average expectancy for cows. They are raped, give birth to calves who are taken away from their mothers at just two days old to be slaughtered and turned into veal (after being fattened up for weeks alone in a confined space). It would be very difficult for someone to argue that eating dairy products isn't cruel.|||I am personally an ovo vegetarian, but I would be vegan if not for where I got my eggs. I have 9 chickens, they live in the stall my horse used to sleep in, it is huge and warm and has a huge door that is almost always open to let them roam around and scavenge outside. My chickens are happy, friendly and I love them just as much as I love my dog and my cat. I know exactly how my chickens are treated and where my eggs are coming from, and I don't have any problem eating them. When they stop giving eggs, I am guaranteed that they will not be turned into meat because I will keep them as pets until they pass away. I will always own my own chickens so that I won't have to put money into the factory farming industry. I do not consume milk as I had a milk allergy as a child that I kind of ignored, but as I started cutting out milk products it has started up again and now even a tiny glass of milk makes me incredibly sick and coats my throat in a layer of mucus.
Veganism completely cuts out all animal products, therefore reducing their contribution to factory farming to zero. Vegetarianism, although we do not consume meat, may also choose to consume milk and eggs, and if they are not from local sources, then you could be contributing to factory farming and the animals are killed for consumption when they cannot produce any more eggs and milk. Cutting out meat is a huge step for anyone, and sometimes people work from there or they are happy with being a vegetarian. I personally won't bash someone for drinking milk or eating eggs, but its always good to be aware of where those products come from.|||They seen videos on websites like PETA about dairy farms and chicken coups. Little do these vegans know that PETA is a known scam and doesn't have any facts to back up their claims. I'm a vegetarian and I believed that crap when I was first became a vegetarian (13 now 18), but then Better Business Bureau pointed out that it was a scam. PETA members are involved with killing animals and making some of those videos you see on their website. Yes, they address some real things like animals getting beat at circuses and slaughter houses, but they also kill animals themselves. They want money out of the ordeal.
Another thing is, just because there are a few videos here and there on the internet about dairy farm horrors and chickens being abused for eggs, doesn't mean ALL are like that. Dairy farms and egg farms have nothing to do with actual slaughter, but false propaganda says different. These farms have video cameras and regulations they need to follow. Whatever got caught on camera obviously got put on the news before and they shut them down. Just don't believe the ones you see on the internet, especially from PETA.
Oh yeah, and I forgot to put down that people do it for diet reasons. Some people just don't want any animal products in their diet for weight loss.|||Ethically superior? HAHAHAHA!
Ethics and morality are created and shaped by each individual's mind. There's no absolute measure to them; only subjective through different perspectives.
Comparing the ethics of vegetarianism and veganism is like comparing the colours green and yellow; there's no absolute way of determining which are better.
I nominate Jon Robbins.|||Peter Singer.
Singer is an act utilitarian, or more specifically a preference utilitarian, meaning that he judges the rightness of an act by its consequences, and specifically by the extent to which it satisfies the preferences of those affected, maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain.|||I really like Johnathan Fodor, who wrote Eating Animals (and also Everything Is Illuminated, but that has nothing to do with vegetarianism). His book is compelling but also accessible. He doesn't shy away from the truth about factory farms but presents it without using a lot of gore.
I want to know why some " non-vegans and non-vegetarians" have negative reations to veganism. I'm vegan and i have been for already 2 years. I'm suppose to write a report on why some omnivores think " veganism" isn't as healthy. I know why many people would think veganism isn't healthy, but mostly, the reasons are myths. What's your opinion on veganism, and why would you consider it " unhealthy?"|||I don't know if you're looking for a vegan perspective, but I actually have a real answer beyond speculation, so it might help you formulate that paper.
The health reason is a scapegoat. There has been a score of research in the past few years debunking nearly all the health myths about veganism. The best they have now is that soy isn't the end-all be-all of health. Which, obviously nothing is; dairy is 100 times worse; and you don't have to eat soy to be vegan! (I know a vegan who is allergic to all soy products, so there.) Anyway, I think most people are aware that meat and animal products are not that healthy right now, but they have other reasons for being negative:
1.) A lot of people don't know any vegans and get all their information from the media. Vegans in TV shows tend to be judgmental a**holes who care about animals and not people (although I have yet to meet one like that, and I know a LOT of vegans, many of whom are also human rights activists)... so when someone hears the word "vegan," a red flag goes up and they are expecting this kind of person. When you expect someone to be a jerk, you will react badly to them no matter how pleasant they are. So that is the first problem. And I know this from experience. There was this one guy I knew for a few months without saying I was vegan (it just didn't come up), and he found out I was when I declined a slice of pizza. His answer was, and I quote: "You can't be vegan; you're so NICE!" And I was the first vegan he'd ever met...
2.) When someone's lifestyle makes such a strong moral statement, it often causes you to think about your own lifestyle. Since most people think it is wrong to abuse animals, it puts them on the defensive even if you are not judging them. I notice that if I identify myself as vegan when I first meet someone who is not vegan, they immediately act as though I am judging them, even though I don't say or do anything to suggest that (and most of the time I am not even thinking about their habits, I mean, they are just one in a billion). I have had people ask me, "Do you care if I eat meat in front of you?" or immediately make excuses why they are not vegetarian or tell me how they are going to try. But I never asked. But anyway, some people, who are particularly inclined to care about animals or wish they could be vegetarian but never tried or don't think they could do it, those people feel especially distressed when they are reminded that a vegan lifestyle is entirely possible, and so they react negatively to the person who made them think about it. Consciously or not.
3.) Finally I can't deny that it has some basis in truth. There are some activists (and unfortunately these are the ones people remember) who are rude to people, confrontational, judgmental and demanding. However, being vegan myself, I understand where they are coming from. These people tend to be nice to other vegans but they have trouble dealing with a world that is so far from what they want it to be, a world where people abuse animals (or pay others to do so) every day without thinking, and when you ask them to think about it, they yell at you and say they don't want to know, they choose ignorance. Or you get comments like the guy in my first bullet, "You can't be vegan; you're so nice!" It takes its toll and it's hard sometimes to resist being mean. But like I said, most vegans I know are very nice, and even the activists are quite understanding. We want to educate others because we remember what it was like before we knew the truth, or maybe even when we knew the truth but weren't ready to make the switch. But no one remembers the activists who were very nice to them because a) it doesn't make for a good story, whether to your friends or to a newspaper audience; and b) it doesn't fit in with the image they already had in their head of what an animal rights activist is. It's selective memory.|||I think that the vegan lifestyle can be very healthy, when approached correctly. What I love about vegans is that they take this diet choice very seriously. It takes a lot of effort and understanding to know what you can and can't eat, especially with so many different hidden animal products in foods. Also, I think it's honorable to be able to make a lifestyle choice like that and stick to it.
Most people consider it unhealthy because it's not the way they were raised. Simple enough, right? We've raised to believe that we need meat or animal products in our diets, which simply isn't true. You can get protein from many other sources, and you can supplement vitamins and minerals you're missing out on by taking supplements.|||Because some vegans are such obvious posers and do it as a means to get attention or feel sorry for themselves by identifying with helpless animals. People do not normally have issues with vegans who simply do not eat animal products, but when you meet someone and within two minutes they tell you they are vegan(unless you are offering them a chicken wing), it is a red flag. Show me one person on that Whale Wars show that is from a happy family and I will be very surprized. It is such an obvious affectation. On the other hand I have known vegans for over a year without knowing their diet restrictions.
Your paper makes some assumptions. like most meat eaters think vegans are unhealthy. Some vegans do not eat healthy, it's true, but many meat eaters eat unhealthy as well. When a 14 year old girl becomes a vegan, you can't help but wonder if it is a control issue with her parents.|||Usually ignorance (not always necessary a bad thing as we all are ignorant about some things). Most people do not know any vegans and how to eat properly on a vegan diet since they don't know any vegans themselves and were taught that a healthy diet always include animals byproducts. If they see a diet that deviates from what they were taught, it's understandable why they think that it is not healthy. Most school classes and textbooks don't cover veganism at all. Also, the dairy industry go out of their ways to advertise their products as the major source of calcium and "milk does your body good". You never see tofu and soymilk in tv advertisements saying "Vitasoy Organic Soymilk. Now fortified with calcium and minerals! Meeting 60% of your DA requirements with every serving."
Then there's the Us vs. Them mentality. If they're not part of us and doing things and eat things our way, then there must be something wrong with them and their ways since there is nothing wrong with our ways. Many people aren't open minded and will dismiss whatever arguments valid or not you bring up if they're already set in their views. Now this is willful ignorance.|||Education, of lack thereof, is a big element in the opposition to vegetarianism and veganism. People have been eating meat for a long time, and believing that it is a necessary food for humans. They don't know another source of protein, so they believe that meat is the only source of protein and that people who don't eat meat cannot be healthy. Many people know at least one person who tried to be a vegetarian but got sick from not getting enough nutrients (it is true that many people who want to be vegetarians just stop eating meat, but continue eating everything else they always ate without thinking of replacing the protein source, and many people who become vegetarians do not eat even enough vegetables and fruit... I, for one, only ate brown rice and cheese and yogurt and ice cream when I first became a vegetarian, and I did get sort of sick, until I realized I had to eat some vegetables and fruit. Many questions I get run along the lines of "I want to be a vegetarian. What cookies can I eat?", and many people want to be able to subsist on packaged processed foods)
The best way to answer those who react negatively to one's choice to become a vegan is to educate oneself as to proper eating habits, proper nutrition, and good nutrition-based and ecology-based reasons to observe a vegan diet.
A good place to start gathering such information would be the PETA website http://www.peta.org
then VegWeb http://www.vegweb
from there, you can do your own googling to find the information to back up your decision. Once you have your information, most likely, people will stop challenging you, because it won't be fun anymore.|||Anything that is out of the norm is going to find some criticism. People don't like non-conformity. I don't really get it. From this board you would think that the world was ready with pitch forks and torches to come get all the vegans in the world. I personally don't think it's that bad in the real world. People aren't THAT against veganism/vegetarianism. But that's just me.
I consider it to be very healthy.|||I'm vegetarian and glad that I am.Some people call me "the vegie girl" but I could just call them "The one who kills poor animal".They thinks its strange.To them its like "you don't eat chocolate"!(For an example).And being vegan is fine and I want to be vegan,well half vegan.I think that people are more shocked if your vegan rather than vegetarian because they think,
'Why?I understand that vegetarians don't like to kill animals for food,but what is wrong with dairy?Your not killing a single thing.'
But I want to be half vegan because I don't really like dairy,and I think its kind of gross.
People in my class think its unhealthy because they say we need it for growth which is true,but we can get all the iron and nutrients from other foods like nuts and seeds for iron.
It all depends on the person and what they think.Everyone is different.But I think that vegan's and vegetarians are the most healthies.
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I hope that helps you.|||I think that most people think that it's going too far simply because it would be too much of an inconvenience.
It's like being a strict Christian or Catholic or Buddhist - almost nobody can fully adhere to the 'rules' because there to too many exceptions and circumstances and excuses and lots of laziness etc. Adultery, divorce, eating pork, eating meat, lying, impure thoughts, etc. etc. So, people make it easy on themselves... they are 'good' only on Sundays, abstain from pork every Friday, don't eat meat twice a month, get forgiven for all their impure thoughts, etc. etc. People are just not interested in being 'hardcore' -- never have, never will be, but they like the Title, the public perception of being the member of such a club. That's why so many people call themselves Vegetarian when in fact they are not at all - they eat dairy, eggs, fish sometimes, chicken sometimes, or whatever, then they get annoyed at those that got sick and tired of these wanna-bes and created a new term Vegan, to distinguish between the real vegetarians and the wanna-bes. They think that Vegans think that they are better than the Vegetarians, but that's not what it's about. It's about integrity, if you ask me. How can you be a Buddhist and still eat meat? Well, I guess you are trying to be as much of a Buddhist as you can, but when can you call yourself a full fledged Buddhist? Even if you do not eat meat, what about the other aspects of the mind, body, and spirit? Where is that line? Can you still be a vegan and wear some shoes that have animal glue or leather? What if the artist paint you use has unknown animal ingredients in it? What about eating vegan food at a restaurant that is not fully 100% vegan? Where is the line drawn?
Anyway, that's where I think negative reactions to veganism mostly comes from, if you can follow my rambling...|||In addition to people's inability to go vegan, their misinformation about nutrition, and the fact that it's outside of the norm, another reason why many omnivores spew there negativity all over the place is because they have come across some preachy and condescending vegans in their lives (maybe in real life, on the internet, or through Peta commercials - even I, a hardcore vegan, think that Peta can seem a bit pushy at times). There are a few vegans out there that give the majority of us a bad name, unfortunately.|||I have nothing against the idea of vegetarianism, per se. People can eat whatever they want.
My negative reaction is towards people who:
- Think that because they don't like something, nobody else should either
- Are hypocrites that pretend that they do not destroy animals and/or their habitat, when in actuality they do, whether directly or indirectly
- Are intolerant of opinions that differ from their own
- Are judgmental and condescending towards people whose opinions differ from their own
Unfortunately, that description seems to fit most of the vegetarians that post on yahoo answers.
The mere mention of being a meat eater usually leads to criticism, belittling, and thumbs down from the vegetarians.
Like PETA members, they don't seem to realize that their extreme but ill-informed statements only damage their credibility further.|||100 years ago, people were wondering about the vegetarianism. No one was taught that vegetarian diet was the "diet from God". The same arguments are being made on veganism today. I'm living on vegan diet (indeed my whole family, with 6y/o & 10 y/o kids) for past 7 years. To me, we yet not discovered any "side affect". In fact our body system is doing well than previous; We feel our life is better now.|||The "fact" that being a vegan diet is healthier than an well balance omnivorous diet is also a myth. And these kinds of high opinion of yourself attitude is why many people dislike vegans. They do not hate the principle of veganism, they hate pushy holier than thou vegans. That's the big difference.|||It's the meat and dairy industry, they have such sneaky strategy's to get us to believe they're our friends and their food is meant to keep us healthy, that when other ppl see other not believeing it and doing something against that, they think that we don't know what we're talking about, and that we like to starv ourselves. I went vegan for a month in an omnivore household and it was literally world war 3, no joke...but lucky for him i didn't have enough money to do vegan, but i still don't eat meat and he's completely out raged, i know first hand how negatively they think of us:
They don't believe that beans and veggies have protein, they don't see that big chunk of steak on the plate and they think we're going to look like those kids in 3rd world country's, skeleton bodys. They believe that rice, beans, fruits, veggies, and whole grain breads aren't bulky enough to keep us full and satisfied, and that they don't taste good. LOL, you should've seen the look on my bf's dad's face when he had his first look at tofu! He had that grimace look on his face, like it was an alien baby first born. He was OUTRAGED... this white blob with no flavor was suppose to keep his son full and thriving?? He still doesn't believe it and it's been 3 almost 4 months. This answer will be the best for your report, because i live with the most All american, narrow minded, meat eating guy you will ever find. You will not find a man who thinks vegan is the most horrible and stupid thing to be. If you need more info for your essay, message me and i can go into better detail about what my bf's dad's opinions are :)|||Im neither. But I can say theres alot of people hating on you guys cause they cant do it. I respect you guys 110% I tried it once and failed miserably. I know this didnt answer your question but I thought I'd put in my 2 cents. Keep it up for what ever your reason behind it is. Don't let anyone tell you other wise!|||Well, my grandma always gets nervous when I go, because she has no idea of all the variety of the foods I can eat, and as the old myth, she is scared I won't get enough vitamins and proteins.
Arrested Development
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Michael: Since when are you against leather?
Maeby: Yeah, you're not even a vegetarian.
Lindsay: Well, I'm not against the insides. I mean, people need meat to survive.
Michael: You are aware they don't remove it surgically, right?
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Chandler: Stick a fork in me, I'm done.
Phoebe: Stick a fork what?
Chandler: You know, like when you're cooking a steak.
Phoebe: Oh, I don't eat meat.
Chandler: Well how do you tell when vegetables are done?
Phoebe: Well you just, you know, you eat them and you can tell.
Chandler: Okay, then eat me, I'm done.
I like the first one because it shows how irrational people can be, vegeterians and non-vegetarians alike.
The second one, because it's funny.|||People
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PETA|||on darhma and greg the hippie mom is a vegetarian and they guilted her into cooking a turkey by telling her she was depriving the homeless, it was hysterical!|||CSI: Crime Scene Investigations...... The character played by Jorga Fox gets mad for being asked to clean a meat project out of the fridge as she is vegetarian and that offends her.|||The Simpsons- the episode with Paul and Linda McCarthy.
I'm a pescetarian and I"m just wondering about the other diets.|||Vegan diets have no choloestrol. Thats right cleaner arteries. A higher amount of clean proteins, and a larger variety of veggies. Vegetarians have eggs cheese, to fill those calories that could have been filled with cleaner foods. Vegan diets, are normally lower in fat- and could raise the amount of time a person lives, 7 years longer. Fish and other sea food (good) but not great. My hubby eats fish and shrimp. But it does have higher levels of pollutants. Every time you eat it, your ingesting bacteria, contaminants, and heavy metals.
You could have higher levels of mercury- this could show later on via hair loss fatigue depression headaches.
And of course seafood is the number one cause of food poisioning in the U.S.
And meat eaters.. well I will leave that to someone else.. :)|||vegetarianism vs veganism: veganism is the healthiest
pescetarianism vs meat-eaters: pescetarianism is the healthiest
I'd appreciate perspective from experienced Vegan converts. Do you feel healthier with the diet change?|||"The word 'veganism' denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude 鈥?as far as is possible and practical 鈥?all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, including humans and the environment.
In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
Yes I feel healthier but even if I didn't it wouldn't matter. Veganism has not and will never be about health or anything like that it is about not exploiting animals in all facets of life. So yes I know that now I am not giving money towards animal exploiters in my daily life and not supporting those industries directly and that makes me feel a bit better. It is also good knowing some of my activism is making change, that I can directly see. I mean like stores closing and companies dropping vivisectors because of regular protests and actions.
I think my path to veganism is the best change I have ever made and one that I should have made over 20 years ago. I didn't know what I was doing to animals and the horrific abuse caused to them for products I didn't need in the first place. Unfortunately my parents were complacent, complicit and ignorant of what they were doing and what they were teaching me, so I learned everything on my own and it pains me to think about what a horrible persyn I was before learning that. I don't want to sugar coat anything and say what I did in my past life was excusable, it wasn't. Our society has built this wall of intolerance and hatred against animals and the belief they exist as our property. However thankfully we have the power to tear down that wall and change our false beliefs and become vegan.|||I've been eating a vegan diet for the last 4 months, and it really depends on what you eat.
If you're thinking about doing a vegan diet, you have to first make a list of foods that are high in protein, calcium, iron, vitamin b12, zinc, vitamins A & C, etc.
You can find a list of vegan products high in these nutrients online.
Then, you have to be ready to cook.
Over 95% of restaurants and stores have little to no vegan entrees.
Overall, a vegan diet is healthy and the food is delicious.
A vegetarian diet is much easier to do, though, because you'll have a lot more options to choose from.
Boca, Morningstar Farms, Lightlife, Amy's Kitchen, Annie's Homegrown, Worthington, Quorn, Tofurky, and Rice Vegan are brands of vegetarian products that can be found at whole food/natural food stores and big chain supermarkets like Pathmark, Stop & Shop, and Shop Rite.
Burgerking & subway sells vegetarian veggie burgers that can be eaten with apple fries/slices instead of french fries and juice instead of soda.
Good luck.|||this is a link to an article about losing weight on a vegan diet, but it still applies to you: http://wayfaringvegans.weebly.com/will-i鈥?/a>
the short of the matter is that you can be a healthy vegan or an unhealthy vegan, JUST like you can be a healthy omnivore or an unhealthy omnivore.|||Healthier yes.
Cleaner, lighter, fresher.
No fatty heartburn, no nausea from eating meat. meat is really really fatty- with animal fat. Bingo.
If meat was Ok to eat- or animal fat in any way- how come it's the one thing that contains cholesterol and we get sick from it.
Ft is the hardet thing for a human to digest- it takes forever compared to other substances.
Animal ft is insoluble, even when it's inside the body ( 98 degrees) it izn't quite liquid, but not solid either, so it's slow moving wazy, fat globules which sit in your stomach, intestine and colon.
If you feel sick to your stomach- the animal fat could be causing that.
All plant oils are healthy- they're soluble, and liquid ( coconut is one exception) and have healthy fats full of omega oils and antioxidants.
Animal fast have no antioxidants - only fish oil has omega oils.
DIgestion- colon cancer IS higher in meat eaters. When meat hits the colon it sticks around = it has NO fibre at all and still leaking blood and body acids. This stains your colon and poisons your tissues if it makes too much contact= there's additives, hormones and even organically formed acid, suphur and urea in animal flesh- even organic meat.
You'lll smell better- meat gives off a smell that isn't exactly pleasant, and we herbivores, like all herbivores, sweat through out skin. Carnivores sweat through their tongues, but we have an antire body sized organ to expell the toxins from our food, and meat is not the most pleasant smell.|||Vegetarian diet - Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/veget鈥?/a>|||The benefits of veganism... Is a happier, longer life in every shape and form. I haven't felt better ;)|||I AM A VEGAN CONVERT.
I USED TO LOVE EATING ICECREAM, CHEESE AND STEAK ETC.
VEGANISM HAS CHANGED MY LIFE!
I FEEL MILES BETTER!
HOPE YOU CHOOSE TO DO THE SAME|||I don't believe there are any health benefits in giving up all animal products. Every person is different, of course, but even Ginny Messina, theveganRD, says:
"There is, of course, a pretty good argument for eating more plants (lots more plants) and less animal food, but no one has shown that you must eat a 100 percent plant diet in order to be healthy. So to make an argument for a 100% vegan diet based on health benefits alone, we have no choice but to stretch the truth. We have to overstate the benefits of vegan diets, and sometimes minimize or dismiss the risks. And as soon as we stray from the actual facts, our advocacy is on shaky ground."
I'll translate that for you:
"stretch the truth" = we lie
"overstate the benefits of vegan diets" = we lie
"stray from the actual facts" = we lie
"advocacy is on shaky ground" = sometimes we get caught
http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/11/how-th鈥?/a>|||There are no benefits. They just don't like killing animals. In the name of Jesus.
If you have a healthy vegan diet/lifestyle starting at 14 until death pretty much, getting all the nutrients you need, and staying on top with the things you might be lacking(iron, calcium, b12 etc), is there any reason it could defect your height growth or any other important parts of the adolescent stage? This teenager is female by the way if that makes any difference. Hopefully this made sense, thanks|||No it does the opposite, since you are eliminating foods that actually stunt growth (dairy, meat).|||No, a healthy vegan diet wouldn't interfere with teenage growth. Teens (and adult vegans) should ensure a reliable source of vitamin B12 by eating fortified foods or taking supplements. They should also eat a varied diet of fruits, veggies, beans, nuts, and grains. Finally, they should be sure to meet their caloric needs; it's not healthy to live on mostly low-calorie foods like salads.
If these conditions are met, there's no reason that veganism would interfere with height growth or other aspects of development.
The American Dietetic Association is the world's largest organization of food and nutrition professionals. It says: "Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence."
Photos of healthy, happy vegan kids:
http://veganhealth.org/articles/realvega鈥?/a>
I hope this helps!|||If you are getting all the nutrients you need you should be fine.
The only time there are problems is when parents don't know enough about nutrition to make sure their kids get all the nutrients they need. when that happens you here about dead babies and malnourished children being seized by social services. That and when teenagers use veganism to justify anorexia.|||I've been a vego scince i was 12 and i have never had any complications or anything like that.|||As a vegan mother I was very worried about my kids health. And making sure they had enough nutritients to let them grow properly. I do have my kids on B12 right now since we all have been vegans for 5 years now (going on 6, and 2 years veggie prior to going vegan). I also have them on algae oil (v-pure oil) for their DHA/EPA for brain health (the omega oils that the fish get their oils from!), and Vitamin D in the winter as we do not get much sun for our skin to make it for us. I also make sure they have their daily requirements of green leafy vegetables, whole grains, and fruit, by cooking all the meals. We rarely go out to eat at a restaurant (only several vegan restaurants around here), and never to a fast food restaurant. I have also taken them in to get their blood tested to make sure they are doing well. Any ways, my first son who is 17 now is 6'3", and the 15 and 13 year old sons are now taller than me (I am 5'4")! So they are doing fine in all aspects. Just be aware of what you are eating and what else can you eat to increase any nutrients you might be needing (as the kids grow, I got them hooked on my tahini sauce for falafels, so they could get the extra calcium in the tahini/sesame seed paste).|||Well one thing i do know is that i heard of a trusted study that showed in general vegan teens are shorter than vegetarian teens but maybe it just depends on the person as long as she is on top of her health then she should be fine i suppose|||You have to work hard at it. When eating an omnivorous diet, getting enough high-quality, complete protein and a good distribution of vitamins is almost automatic. With a vegan diet you have to watch it all the time and take supplements that are lacking in plant foods. This is especially important in young people whose bodies have not finished growing and developing. And for young women, it's especially important to watch out for anemia.
The risk of missing out on important nutrients is such that it's probably better to wait until the late teens or early 20s before becoming a vegan. Nutritional screwups in youth can't be repaired in later adulthood.
I have to eat more in order to bulk up (doctor's orders) and eat more iron rich foods because I am slightly anemic. It really bothers me that I'm eating too much even though its all really healthy. I always feel so fatty.
I'm 5' 8" and 130 lbs|||you're very underweight and are clearly having unhealthy thought processes about food and eating. i think it's wonderful that you have the insight to recognize an incipient eating disorder in yourself, but if your doctor isn't helping you with it, you need to seek psychological help of some kind sooner rather than later. there's no shame in it, it's just what needs to be done. talking to a nutritionist might be beneficial as well. good luck - don't let this get any worse!!!!|||You're not fat. I am fatter than you are I wear a size small. Maybe you should talk to a professional. Eat more spinach and nuts and beans etc. for the iron. Hope you feel better!|||How about some iron vitamin supplements?|||If you aren't overweight (which you aren't) and you aren't feeling full and giving yourself stomachaches when you eat, then I don't see any problem.
seriously pollytroll, You've been doing this for several months already! Doesn't it seem boring to constantly post the same retarded questions all over again? Find yourself something better to do.|||We don't riot in the streets.|||Because of the Church of Satan's Meateaters. You know Veganists despise those who are members of that church.|||Haha. No one us rioting they're all just laughing at you.
I am interested in veganism.|||milk, artificial milk flavor (most often milk-derived), whey, cream, butter, eggs...
Check out farmsanctuary.com - an amazing amount of unemotionally charged factual info
Read sentiments and search from quotes from Gandhi and the Dalai Lama
I agree with SAH. (don't worry though; a considerable number of vegans you'll meet are actually reall laid-back.)
http://www.earthlings.com
^absolutely incredible documentary film on industrial meat and dairy production by Nation Earth. You can watch it free on their site. (Highly recommend it.) Educate yourself further; learn, open your mind.
Also, read EATING ANIMALS by Jonathan Safran Foer. It's a wonderfully objective (as it can be) overview on why we, in the US, choose to eat some animals (cows, fish, poultry, pigs, rabbit, deer, elk) and not others (dogs, cats).
Best wishes! x <3
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Considerable, very interesting facts...
99% of farms in the US are factories: industrialized systems.
The grain fed to US livestock alone (this isn't a global figure) could feed ALL of the WORLD'S starving and hungry, and there'd still be some left over.|||Whey, lactose, butter.
My aunt and uncle are vegan. They are rude about it, for example, they will not allow animal products in their house. So when I went to visit, and brought my lunch from the trip that had half a chicken caesar wrap in it, they made me go sit outside on the lawn to eat it. Don't be that kind of vegan. It's ok to have principles, but don't make your friends/family miserable because of your choice.|||mostly milk and eggs. Also cream in a lot of things.|||Milk, butter and cream
Really when you sit down and consider it, isn't it unnatural, homo sapiens are omnivores. We have plant grinding teeth and canine teeth.
So isn't not eating meat unnatural, in the animal sense?
Because we are built to eat both plant and animal tissue.|||If people still lived on their own farms and kept their own animals, meat eating might not be so unnatural. But the way meat is produced today is anything BUT natural. Of course, "in the animal sense," wearing clothes is unnatural, walking upright is unnatural, using our vocal cords for speech is unnatural, living in houses is unnatural.|||No, it's not really natural, our physiology is better made for eating vegetation.
http://www.goveg.com/naturalhumandiet_ph鈥?/a>
This website really details it well.|||certain tribes in africa, pakistan, afghanistan are vegan and they have the same teeth. vegetarians in india account for about 40 percent of the population and they have the same teeth.
whether it's natural or unnatural will be debated a lot but it doesn't matter when you see that people thrive on vegetarian and vegan diets. that's all the proof I need to see that it's natural.|||The mysteries of chimps become violent while eating meat is unknown. Apparently, human do not necessarily need meat for survival or to become violent.
Human is only self-claimed omnivore in the earth that could not crash the bones, shell and intestines, neither his digestive system would not able to assimilate them. Why don鈥檛 you have a try?
Compare to those "perfect" omnivores like bear and dog. Why don't you collaborate with a "perfect" herbivore...gorillas?
If you analyze the above facts, your mind will be pretty much determine that our body anatomy is very much resemble to the vegetarian diet. It also good for you, for the animals, environment and earth.|||Meat has been linked to cancer. Anyways, humans dont feel adrenaline when killing an animal like carnivorous animals do.|||Just because we're capable of ingesting and digesting something, it doesn't mean we're obligated to do so. The way meat is produced these days is what's unnatural. There's nothing natural about eating flesh that's full of antibiotics, hormones and steroids.|||No --- It is not unnatural. As I've said before, we are extremely adaptable ... not only in dentition, but physiologically as well. There is NOTHING that says we are made to be one way or the other. We are true "omnivores" and hence can live in any geographical area of the world and our bodies will adapt to available food.
For instance re: the stupid "weak stomach acid" comment. In those cultures (Inuits) that are as close to carnivorous as one can get, the body adapts and begins secreting additional stomach acid to accommodate the change in diet. We are the PERFECT ominivores.|||We are omnivores that is what is natural. If somebody wants to be a vegetarian that is fine, what is unatural are VOC(vegans of convenience) those whop run around like a bunch of zealots only to still have animal tendencies themselves.|||Oh I guess you coud think that.
But I think we can naturally eat whatever we please!
Bon Appetite!|||Homo sapiens also lived in caves, killed their own food and never wasted it, died before 35, and ate a mainly vegetarian diet.
Early Homo sapiens did not have factory farms, tons of animal by-product waste, or fast food.
Early Homo sapiens did not have access to high protein vegetarian foods in the amounts that we do.
Modern Homo sapiens kill for pleasure. Meat is not needed. If it were, we, like most felines, would be unable to survive without it. We can not only survive, but we thrive.
We do NOT have carnivorous teeth.
We DO NOT have fangs.
We do not have natural hunting attributes (like claws and rotating ears).
Processing meat is actually very difficult for humans.
While meat can be a great concentration of nutrients, it's an unneeded and violent way to get them.|||It's not unnatural. Humans can much more easily survive without eating meats than they can without eating produce.|||Are you SERIOUSLY talking about "natural"?
What do we do that's natural anymore? We eat crappy genetically modified processed food....we are all getting fat...
we work in bad environments, bad air quality, bad lighting, we don't exercise, we suffer from all kinds of crazy mental conditions, we are depressed...
Our food is toxic, we get sick from eating salmonella vegetables, we feed factory farm animals..other animals, they are pumped with hormones and antibiotics, so I ask you, what is natural here? I don't care what my teeth look like, that crap is not natural!
:) come on brotha, join us on the light side :)|||From my studies, no, I think we are designed for eating vegetation. Canine teeth... um.. no, sorry, mine are not able to rip meat.. that's why we have forks and knives and cook the meat.. to make it edible. Teeth are just one part of our system, which is obviously not designed for meat. But, let's just, for the sake of argument say that you are correct, that we are designed to eat meat and can if we want to.
I also believe it is totally natural to have sex with as many people as possible of the opposite sex, but I stay with one person exclusively. Totally unnatural and it can drive me to sexual frustration at times... but I do it -- and so do many meat eaters. Why, because it would cause harm to most relationships.
Same reason more people are moving towards a diet that lacks animal products and includes more plant products. Although people wave meat in front of their faces, ice cream, junk food, etc. that all smell and taste good and are very tempting, people realize it's bad for them and avoid it.|||Wow, then when you *sit down and think* this is what you come up with? Maybe you didn't really think
In reality humans are herbivores. Eating meat and especially dairy is extremely unnatural. Let us review the facts shall we?
-Slaughterhouses & animal production today are extremely unnatural.
-Why is meat and dairy linked to so many diseases and problems?
-We do not have carnivore canine teeth, the only thing close is maxillary & mandibular 'canines', they are all located three teeth away from the midline, and they are not located near the front in which they either protrude out or near protruding.
-In the past when humans ate animals, they had to use tools and fire (because we do not have carnivore teeth, or stomachs to digest meat properly, also we do not have claws) you don't have to do this with plants, grains, etc.
-We do not have claws
-We have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a carnivore
Plus I could go on, but if those reasons plus the links I have provided don't work for you, then I don't know what to say!
And most importantly we can live a longer, healthier life, without animal products, but you can't live without plants/grains!
Next time you *sit down and consider things*, you might want to really consider them, do research, and learn!|||We are an evolution of an omnivorous species. We can be either veg or carn, or omni, but it is a decision based on personal preference as opposed to 'what ever we can find'. We are not helpless hunter gatherers, we no longer need, 'providers'. We work for money to buy us heaps of crap... man I'm hungry.|||What's unnatural? Choosing to eat plants, or eating a slab of meat taken from an animal that was packed full of hormones, fed the cheapest swill possible, and kept confined in a small, dirty cell until it was time to be slaughtered?
Fortunately, we humans have the mental capacity to make the choice to be omnivorous or vegetarian/vegan. You're free to do whatever you wish, but I certainly don't see why not eating another animal would be considered unnatural.|||yeah and our eyes are on the front of our heads like a predators for better depth perception. however our intestinal system is set up to digest vegetation matter.
Do you know anyone who is one or are you one? I've tried eating raw a few time but never could get past a week. Any tips? I felt better during those weeks than I ever have in my life.|||I've been raw for almost two years, and it is terrific!
Tips? Get a good cookbook! "Raw Food Made Easy," by Jennifer Cornbleet is good, and doesn't require special equipment that you will eventually want if you stick to it. (Like a juicer, a dehydrator and a spiral slicer)
Find someplace that sells LARABARS! They are so good, and totally raw.
Always have raw nuts or avocados on hand- fat is great for cravings.
Oh, and I hate to disagree with Kyle- he's a bright guy with good answers- but eating raw does NOT (necessarily) mean a lot of soaking and sprouting. That's a LIVING food diet.
Raw just means mostly raw fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds.
My husband advises all his patients with chronic conditions to do raw food for two weeks- they ALWAYS improve.|||There's a great raw vegan restaurant near me but I can't even go a day doing the raw thing at home, it seems like so much prep with all the sprouting, soaking, etc.|||A close friend of mine did this for a short time. I would say the best thing to do would be to try an enormous variety of things, so you can find things you really enjoy. Then it won't be so much of a hassle. You also might discover things you wouldn't have bothered to try, otherwise.|||I have been a vegetarian for some time and decided to go raw a few weeks ago. I was having trouble making the switch and sticking to it so I transitioned to it over the course of a couple weeks. I found it easier to gradually give up dependence on cooked and steamed vegetables. I have been looking for good recipe books but I can't help there as I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere. I haven't found any yet.
I was at my grandfather's house and he told me that true vegans only eat vegetables. And then he says stupid things like "you can eat chicken, right?' and "A little hot dog isn't going to hurt".
What the most annoying/dumb/ignorant thing you've heard about vegetarian/veganism? From either a meat-eater or a veggie.|||From this forum:
"what can I eat?" and it's twin "what am I allowed to eat?"
"OMG I "accidentally" ate meat!! What do I do!! OMG!!"
"If you were stranded on an island/desert/middle of nowhere...?"
"Since vegetarians/vegans are healthier than...?"
"Humans are not meant to ...?"
"Im so hungry, what can I eat?"
"I would rather die than eat an animal..."
"My father/mother/brother/sister/grandmother鈥?are so ignorant/annoying/stupid..."|||That's weird. Vegans cna't eat meat or anything produced my an animal. This girl that I just answered a question for on yahoo answers said that all PETA Vegetarians'Vegans would rather eat humans than animals. Wtf is her problem? I want to be a Vegetarian. I think people like that are crazy. Hope I helped.|||this is very similar to yours, only with more stupidity attatched to it:
my aunt: "so you don't eat meat, eggs, milk, cheese, or byproducts? but you still eat chicken!" (i say that no, i haven't for the past 13 years). "oh, i thought you had this whole time."
like seriously, if i'm not going to eat eggs, why the heck am i going to eat adult chickens?|||Well this isn't something someone said but my girlfriends mom threw an entire pack of open hot dogs at me at a party once. That definitely tops my list of dumb things that people have done at least, I don't have enough time to even tell you about how people in south Florida are...|||"You do know that vegetarians don't get enough protein, don't you?"
People like that really ought to get a clue before spouting off.|||"plants have feelings too you know"
...........................*slowclap*
er, congratulations, you've just proved that I am less of a murderer than you.|||'Vegetarians can eat fish'
'Im a flexitarian'
'Vegetarians are close minded people'|||yes, the older generation does not get it. my bf's dad is simply irritating....
I think this misconception dilutes the core values of veganism which are to reduce the demand for animal products so that fewer animals have to suffer. What do you think?|||Veganism has never been about health or anything but the animals. Veganism is not a diet, or a bits and pieces lifestyle. It is also not a lightswitch you turn on and off. Veganism is a path in life to understanding the full circle of compassion and avoiding intentional exploitation of animals and destroying speciesism.
People like to misdefine veganism because it is more convenient for them, it works better for them, it is all about them. It is purely based in selfishness rather than anything else. They don't care about animals they just happened to find out that not eating animal products is in fact healthier for them and veganism to them seems like this really cool "club" and if they are members of this club they have made up, it elevates them. They don't want to understand what veganism truly is and that is a sad fact. It is great people want to be healthy but there are words for folks who are just in it for health or diet such as: healthetarians, plant based diet, strict/pure vegetarian. They are fine words, and are accurate words and there is no need to muck up veganism when you can easily describe yourself without attacking veganism.
Those who can fit the below definition are on the path of veganism, those who cannot fit it aren't there yet but the one thing that everyone can do no matter what is get on the path. There is nothing exclusive or club like about veganism it is a simple definition and you fit it or you don't yet.
"The word 'veganism' denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to end the idea of animals as property and exclude all forms of intentional exploitation of, use of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing, research or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, including people and the environment.
In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."|||Hey, I would actually say it is a mixture of both.
Obviously the ethical considerations are the main motivation of veganism, but there is certainly a health aspect to it as well. For example, on this site people regularly recite the benefits of a vegan diet, and the fact that a person feels healthier after becoming a vegan may be a factor which influences them to stick with it.
If it were 100% purely ethical, and health wasn't a factor, then even if veganism was dangerous there would be the same number of vegans, which clearly wouldn't be the case.
I myself am a vegan. I do it for ethical reasons, but that was not actually how I initially got into it. I happened to eat a purely vegan diet for a while, and it felt right. I felt healthy. From there I looked into veganism, and that is when I learned about all the exploitation of animals that goes on. That is when I became a vegan. So even though it was for ethical reasons, the health factor was a driving force.
I wouldn't say that people go vegan for health reasons, but I also wouldn't say that it isn't a factor which influences their choice.
x|||I think it is because of the underlying misconception you can also see in some of the answers: the only part of veganism many people are familiar with is the diet part. Which in itself is not called veganism, but strict vegetarianism.
If you know that veganism means to not use any animals (as far as possible) in ALL parts of your life, you see that it makes no sense to think people are vegans because of health reasons. After all, what 'health reason' could ever motivate somebody not to wear wool or silk or leather? Or to not buy pearls? Or to opt for cosmetics that were not tested on animals?
If all you see is a diet, it is not strange to think that people might adopt it for health reasons.|||It's quite a generalization to say that people always thing that veganism is a health choice.
People pursue veganism for a variety of reasons, the two most prominent being health and ethics. As far as I can tell both reasons are equally associated with vegans and veganism. In the case of veganism especially, it would reason that ethics are associated if only because it is such an extreme dietary restriction that it would be more logically backed by something strong like ethics than by health concerns. People tend to be far more impassioned about ethics than health and thus seem more likely to choose a strict diet like veganism.
As far as the theoretically stronger association with health concerns devaluing the ethical concerns, I think it is unlikely that one reason would draw any appreciable amount of attention from the other. In the end, an individuals reasons for their individual choices are limited to that individual and those they interact with. Your ethical or health reasons for choosing veganism are unlikely to have any profound effect on society at large or the animal industries you are fighting. The media gives little attention to veganism as a whole. I think it's far more likely that people would misunderstand what it even means to be vegan before they even consider the reasons behind it (I get the question of 'what is vegan?' before I get the question of 'why?' more often than not. Very few people seem to be readily familiar).
Moreover, who ever said that the reduction of the demand for animal products was a core value of veganism? While the specific term "vegan" did not come about until the 20th century and was defined at some point to mean the view that man should live without exploiting animals, the idea of an animal product and by product free diet has been around for a long time, more often it was a religiously mandated practice. In this respect it was not to reduce the demand for animal products, it was to individually practice/learn compassion, avoid violence, or simply to avoid consuming that which would sully the body/blood or what considered impure. To assume your ethics compose the core of a diet as a whole is folly.
If this is a concern to you then take time to spread the good word. But again, I would be far more concerned with whether people even know what you're talking about before you worry about why you're talking about it.|||Core values of veganism??!!!! What, is veganism some type of corporation or something. What, are you some type of corporate snob? Maybe some people do choose a vegan diet for health reasons...there's plenty of reasons.
What do I think? Why do you care what reason's other people use to choose their diet? What if it's for religeous reason, and has nothing to do with animal welfare or so called rights? do you have a problem with that?
edit: Then ask your question diplomatically. You're not asking a question here, you're just pontificating and inviting others to do the same in the form of a question. It's called Yahoo Answers, not Yahoo Opinion or Yahoo Pontification....Now go ahead and pick one of your veganazis as the best answer and stop wasting electrons. They have rights too!!|||Most of us certainly do not agree that eating animals is unethical. Are the Inuit in the North of Canada, Alaska and Russia unethical because they consume mostly meat? Until the advent of huge farms and shipping of produce was possible, virtually everybody above the 40th parallel relied on consuming animal products to survive. Being a vegetarian is a luxury that was not possible 100 years ago in many parts of the world. I hesitate to call these people unethical either.|||People do it for both reasons. Switching to a vegan diet often leads to substantial weight loss, more energy, and a clear complexion. Reducing the demand for animal products not only means fewer animals have to suffer, but also equates to less green house gasses and animal waste for the planet.|||Not all vegans, or vegetarians are that way due to ethics. Many are as a health choice.
Personally I have a good friend that is Vegan because she just feels better when she doesn't eat meat or anything like that.
Same with another friend who is just Vegetarian. Personally meat just makes her sick.|||They don't. You are wrong. People don't (always) think that.
(Some) people do. And there are people that do it only for health reasons.
I don't care what your reason is. I don't even care what you eat as long as you don't care what I eat.|||Because many people think veganism is a diet and don't actually understand what it is about. That is mainly due to misinformation in the media.|||over 90% of the people on the face of the earth don't know what a vegan is. nor do they care.
it's irrelevant except in a vegans small little world and those who inhabit it.
i'm pro vegan but i'm also a realist.|||It must be an ethical choice mainly, because many many vegans and vegetarians don't even eat very healthy really to begin with (though many think that they are, but are nutritionally uneducated or misinformed).|||If anything, I think that when people believe it is for an ethical choice they feel it is sillier than if it was a health choice.|||FYI everyone, exsft is a middle-aged child molesting Catholic! He once molested his daughter!!|||It can be either, or both.|||Veganism is a personal choice, just as a religion is a personal choice, whether for one's health, ethics, philosophy or ideology, but it is only a choice, if someone chooses to go vegan for these reasons, that is fine with me, but just don't try to tell me or others that we must go vegan too. You can eat , believe and wear what you want, and I'll eat and wear what I want!
Edit: Some seem to think that that veganism is like some kind of a "religion" and that others should be made to accept it, many people do not even follow any type of organized religion, but that dose not make them wrong!|||The reason(s) s to why a person is a vegan is important only that person. It is also his/her business not yours. The fact is, since it is a choice, people can make it for whatever reason they want. They are not in anyway obliged to live up to your expectations or uphold what you believe as vegan "core values". Actually in my opinion (and believe me, I am being diplomatic here), you are one reason why vegans have a hard time. People probably hear you and go "see? what did I tell you, they are all nuts!!"|||many people think vegan-ism is an eating disorder. There are misconceptions in everything because small groups of people get more attention than the rest of the crowd. Much like how a small group of terrorists can be perceived to define an entire culture.|||I think there are MANY reasons to go vegetarian, health beliefs, ethical beliefs, religion, social reasons, influence from others etc.|||Why are people always so obnoxiously arrogant to assume that there can be only ONE (their) reason for making a personal choice?|||Animals are yoummy
Elimination of allergy symptoms, sinus problems and migraines, greatly increased energy, improved moods, better eyesight....|||It's not convenient for us to do too much raw veganism at the moment, with a baby and toddler in the house, but I find I really miss it if I don't get a salad with my dinner. I guess that's a positive :) It's something we're educating ourselves about and hoping to do more of as time goes on. Most cookbooks and things seem to require super juicers or dehydrators, which is a bit off putting because we can't afford them at the moment. However, I bought the "Raw Food Revolution Diet," which is not full of juice fast crap and doesn't require a dehydrator for all the recipes. Also bought Ann Wigmore's sprout book. Now I need to locate some jars to grow the sprouts in!|||increased health, allergy elmination, weight control, better skin, more energy...
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rawfoodrightnow.com
The current post there is about raw food books and how to take advantage of them.
For raw food recipes, a good place to start is
http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/
Another is http://goneraw.com/recipes
My blog has a list of recipe links as well as links to other raw vegan sites I like at http://prettysmartrawfoodideas.wordpress鈥?/a>|||Really really good. Anytime I have tried it I have felt great. I intend on sticking to it as much as possible this time round. I am on day 4 raw, varying from 70 - 100% raw. It has many healing benefits etc. I don't suggest you asking much on this forum it's not too helpful with raw veganism as there are only a small number of members who are raw vegan, or have any experience on it, here. I suggest you google and look for some raw forums. Good luck:) And remember, it's not just fruit and veg!
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so i am trying to go vegan but will my skin break out and get acne when i first start since my body will be going through detox and everything? and also will i loose a lot of weight because I'm not over weight and don't really want to lose a lot of weight but i hear that alot of people drop alot of weight so could you please tell me if any of you have experienced skin problems when you first went vegan of have lost any weight or had any hair loss or any other changes in your body good or bad?|||Unless you've been eating really horribly, you shouldn't notice any crazy reactions. I agree that some sort of moderation or transition is a good idea.
Check out the website below and also the PETA ones. There's also a veganism for Dummies book that is really detailed.
I think most of the big reactions come later...years later even.
My skin and hair actually immediately got clearer and shinier and healthier. I lost a little weight when I became vegan, but nothing that I didn't need to lose. I'm 115 now and have been for many years. I just lost the milk fat from the hormones in the milk.
Good luck!|||Personally, I wouldn't suddeny drop to veganism. 'Taking it slowly' is preferable because an immediate diet change will cause you fatigue, weakness, dizziness, possible weight loss, stomache ache, illness, cramps, bloating, and withdrawal from hunger because your body isn't getting the proteins, nutrients, fats, and other ingredients (including processed ones) it's so used to. Eat a little less meat everyday, but try things like eggplant at the same time.|||I had acne before I went vegan and now I have the occassional stress/PMS zit. Detox did not happen for me because I did an herbal cleanse before going vegan. With the detox my skin did not break out more than usual.
I did not lose any weight because I just ate the same as before, just different foods. I started exercising a little and lost weight that way.
The falling out of hair is only a sign that you are not getting enough vitamins and minerals (not protein- look at all the people who eat a ton of meat and their hair falls out! It is the green leafy vegetables and all those antioxidants found in the blueberries/cherries/black currant/etc.). You need to make sure you are still getting your vegetables (and not french fries!).
I also agree not to just go vegan right away. It took me two years of being vegetarian and feeling OK before taking the vegan plunge. It has been three years now and I am doing just fine.
EDIT: It was my religion that helped me see that vegetarianism was the best lifestyle to have in the first place even though a lot of our members are meat eaters. Seventh Day Adventists are the only group in the America that lives up to 9 years longer than any other groups in America (only referring to vegetarians of course). Although they promote healthy living in all forms, not just food, it isn't mandatory or a sin to not follow this lifestyle. But it is a sin to abuse the body. Our body is a temple that should be taken care of.
Adam, Eve, and the animals before sin were all vegetarians.
The vegetarian diet is all we need to live a healthy and happy life. But in no way am I like most vegetarians. I don't believe it's wrong to kill an animal for food. I am a vegetarian because it is the best diet to live on which was intended by God in the first place. God expects His children to take care of their bodies and minds. People don't understand that a lot of diseases and mental disorders are developed based on the wrong foods, including meats. God only allow certain meats to be eaten because of certain circumstances. Not everyone will understand this, but if you search for understanding, you will find it. And that includes studying history and your Bible.
If vegans want to say that it's wrong to kill animals for food, then I guess they have a problem with animals that eat other animals too.
I only believe there are certain animals that can be eaten, like the animals found in Leviticus chapter 32. And there is a way to kill those animals that are painless. But farmers in America don't follow those kosher laws found in the Bible.
Humans eat animals, and animals eat animals. This is the way our world is right now. But that is because the world isn't perfect right now. And when God comes back, every living thing with go back to the original diet, and that is vegetarianism.
But you are right in the sense that veganism is a religion, but without God. So I rather be called a vegetarian and not vegan because vegans are in a religion of itself regardless if they don't have religious rights. This would be long if I wrote all of it down, so go and do your research. Veganism actually derived from pagan thinking. So just know that we all aren't the same when it comes to our diets.|||I read somewhere ages ago that veganism was a religion.
There was also a video on youtube, although i really have no idea, sorry :)|||no. but it is a lifestyle. not a diet.
difference between veganism and religion:
animals are real
god is not
edit:i knew i'd get thumbs downed for telling the truth.|||It's a practice that is based on belief. Sometimes moral belief and moral code, but sometimes just a belief that it's best for health.
Since veganism is not based on faith, I would not call it a religion.|||I think it depends on the person,
if the vegetarian wants to treat it like a religion and make it really important they will, some will do it as a diet, and some just a lifestyle ( not super "omg" important but preferred against eating meat.|||I am an atheist vegan, so Im going to have to say... no.
A religion is something where people believe in a higher being.
We don't have a god, so we are not a religion.|||It's a lifestyle, and it doesn't have the components of a religion like creation and afterlife.|||No it's not a religion. If a vegan gets arrested and jailed they have no option of being fed vegan meals. If it were a religion then they would be allowed to eat vegan food in jail.
I mean honestly...why does'nt anyone just think oh, thats easy, we are't that dependant on animals this should be easy. Honestly? Its sad how dependent we are, but I just think that would be a logical approch even though we really are very dependent on animals.|||i think the only reason it was hard for me was because in 13 and i lloovvveee bread and ya like what golden said, now im vegetarian and i cant even stand the sight of meat and sucking the flesh of of a living creatures bones is not in my best interest :P. Im the only one in my family who doesn't eat meat and when someone asks me why im vegetarian i just ask them why their not ;D ive been experiencing a new level of spirituality and my aunt has chickens (she doesn't eat them) and i get all my eggs from her so no supporting battery cages for me :)|||Vegetarian sounds easy to me because i hate the taste of meat in general (i am a vegetarian btw)
Veganism sounds hard to me though... because i don't know where i would get my protein, i don't have enough money to buy vegan-acceptable products, since i live in a house filled with omnivores. i dont think all people are dependable on meat, it's more of society. if we had more vegan products, i would switch in a heartbeat. but a lot of people would have to switch to begin with if society would provide us with more vegan products.
plus it's hard to keep up with everything to make sure that it doesn't have an animal byproduct in it.
but i think i, and omnivores especially, think it's hard because we are not knowledged on the subject. maybe if we knew it more, then we would be able to say, "oh, that's not as hard as i thought! (: "|||I'm not sure. I found it quite easy when I was 11 to stop eating meat. Actually, just the thought that I was eating dead animals sickened me enough that it was second nature to not eat meat.
I suppose people think it is hard because they have always ate meat. Take a child young and raise them vegan and I'm sure they wouldn't think twice about meat until they saw it.
I think that to quit eating meat is a lot easier than to quit a bad habit like smoking. It's not addictive... then again it really might be. I've heard stories like that... making certain food addictive.|||tell me about it I am so sick of every time I say "i am vegan" and someone either says "i'd never be able to do that" or "what do u eat" like we eat strange foods or something. It's like "i eat the same things u do u idiot" if I want a meatball sandwich that is was I will have I just buy vegan meatballs instead of the other ones. whats so hard about that. there is an alternative for almost everything these days. gosh give me a break its soooooooo easy.|||i think its something you have to experience. sounds difficult on paper, but when you start living vegan and have vegan dinners with friends it becomes second nature.
pretty sure that people who eat meat don't believe you can be vegan. even after meeting vegan atheletes.
as kids we were made to believe you needed milk and meat.|||I so agree with you!
hi Five.
We don't depend on Animals to survive.
Animals are the ones who are supposed to depend on us.
We are the ones who are supposed to help them not eat them.
Going Vegan is not hard.
Its just that most humans are so adapted to eating meat all the time.
Meat doesn't taste that good after realizing that you are putting a dead body on your mouth. (gross)|||Yeah. Animals byproducts are in a lot of things. It's hard to to be fully aware of every product you're using. You just do the best you can.
Pokemon, trust me. All my family eats meat but me. there's are still plenty of things you can eat. Fruits, vegetables, beans and grains. Just look online for food that have protein in them. You'll find a list somewhere.|||i think veganism is so incredibly easy. when people ask me "wow isnt that hard ??" i say no it is so natural and just looking at meat/dairy i dont even consider that food . i really have no desire for it whatsoever|||I agree, it is mighty sad. I really didn't think is could be that difficult with all the available substitution. Therefore I took the plunge and it hasn't been too much of a challenge for me.|||Most people just have no experience on the matter.
I am SURE that you thought somewhere in your mind when you started out that it would be difficult, experience teaches you otherwise.
=)|||its not easy its hard to avoid
Chili dog with cheese
Boneless BBQ strips
orange chicken!!!
BBQ Ribs!!!
Stuff crust Pepperoni pizza
Etc.
etc.
i don't know what else to put in my ending paragraph. heres what i have so far.
My choice to be vegan has made me a more compassionate, aware, and inspired person. I no longer see something as on object, but i see why its there and what it does.
thanks for the help!=)|||My choice to be vegan has made me a more compassionate, aware, and inspired person. One no longer sees something as on object, but one sees the purpose of why it was placed on this earth. Animals were placed liberated, who are we as human beings to control that freedom that they once had? Hypothetically, if creatures were sent to be devoured, why are some specific animals not consumed? That leads one to believe that animals were indeed put here to graze freely and out of harms way while they are here. If such creatures did not have an extreme will to live, why have they survived geneations unharmed? Considering the eveidence previously stated, animals were placed to be animals, we do not necessarily need to consume animals to survive, so one simply does this for their own selfish agenda. Animals are simpathetic, agile creatures that clearly deserve respect, more so then humans, yet they are not recieving half of what they give.
|||What is it for? If it's for a school assignment, you'll want to go back over the evidence you offered. If it's for an essay contest, you're on the right track... I'd just add some more along the same lines.|||That's a great start. :) You can also add how it made you a healthier person, and maybe encourage others to become vegans for such and such reasons (i.e. because of health, etc.).|||you could also add that you feel good about making the right choice. that you know you are doing the right thing.|||It is a good start. I would drop the inspired part because that needs an explanation - inspired in what way. You say that you no longer see something as an object. Don't be afraid to take the animal issue head on. Say you no longer see animals as objects - or commodities. Explain what you mean by why it is there and what it does - that animals are here for their own purposes, perhaps, not our use and that their value comes from their own life and consciousness rather than our proprietary needs.
You may want to find a choice quote to give it some punch. Here are a few but you can find far more.
Man is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the victims he intends to eat until he eats them. ~Samuel Butler, Note-Books, 1912
Why does Sea World have a seafood restaurant? I'm halfway through my fishburger and I realize, Oh my God. I could be eating a slow learner. ~Lynda Montgomery
Animals are my friends... and I don't eat my friends. ~George Bernard Shaw
Nothing more strongly arouses our disgust than cannibalism, yet we make the same impression on Buddhists and vegetarians, for we feed on babies, though not our own. ~Robert Louis Stevenson
My situation is a solemn one. Life is offered to me on condition of eating beefsteaks. But death is better than cannibalism. My will contains directions for my funeral, which will be followed not by mourning coaches, but by oxen, sheep, flocks of poultry, and a small traveling aquarium of live fish, all wearing white scarfs in honor of the man who perished rather than eat his fellow creatures. ~George Bernard Shaw
I did not become a vegetarian for my health, I did it for the health of the chickens. ~Isaac Bashevis Singer, quoted in You Said a Mouthful edited by Ronald D. Fuchs
Heart attacks... God's revenge for eating his little animal friends. ~Author Unknown
My perspective of veganism was most affected by learning that the veal calf is a by-product of dairying, and that in essence there is a slice of veal in every glass of what I had thought was an innocuous white liquid - milk. ~Rynn Berry, quoted in Joanne Stepaniak, The Vegan Sourcebook, 1998
Nothing spoils lunch any quicker than a rogue meatball rampaging through your spaghetti. ~Jim Davis
I do not like eating meat because I have seen lambs and pigs killed. I saw and felt their pain. They felt the approaching death. I could not bear it. I cried like a child. I ran up a hill and could not breathe. I felt that I was choking. I felt the death of the lamb. ~Vaslav Nijinsky
To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being. I should be unwilling to take the life of a lamb for the sake of the human body. ~Mahatma Gandhi
While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal conditions on this earth? ~George Bernard Shaw
Truely man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds theirs. We live by the death of others: we are burial places! I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men. ~Leonardo da Vinci
I will not eat anything that walks, runs, skips, hops or crawls. God knows that I've crawled on occasion, and I'm glad that no one ate me. ~Alex Poulos|||You can also end with "having healthy lifestyle changes also changes your DNA for the better also....
Philosophically speaking, I'm not opposed to eating meat. I understand that animals are not members of the moral community--its a natural part of life for humans to eat them.
that being said, animals demand a certain amount of respect. For me, this means refusing to eat anything inorganic. I decided to be a vegetarian because one day i just didn't like the taste of flesh. Sorry if this comes off with a dramatic flair, but for me its something very spiritual...an act of supererogation within my reach. I don't need to eat meat to survive...so i wont.
people say that because we're smater than animals, we deserve to eat them. But I think that the fact we are smarter than them means we should show them mercy.|||Both great in so many ways.|||My opinion on both would be that if people choose to eat that way it is great for them that they are making those choices. For me, there is no way I could live without meat, I love the taste the texture and the smell (after its cooked)
For vegans, I applaud someone who can be so creative to live on a diet of veggies, fruits and legumes/starches
I could never live without butter, cheese, or really any dairy product...I have tried the soy type and others and it just doesnt compare to the greasiness or tanginess|||vegetarians and vegans are amazing people for not supporting the horribleness of the meat industry (:|||i love them both. eating meat is STUPID. look at all those vegetarians out there, like me, healthier than the meat eaters. meat makes you fat bc of the way people cook it. scientists even found out that vegetarians live longer than meat eaters. so yea.....humans were never supposed to eat meat. and eating poor innocent animals...shame on them. vegetarianism and veganism rules!!|||Vegetarianism/Veganism are just better ways of life. We get a lot of heat from meat eaters though, it can be discouraging. I have been Vegetarian/trying to be Vegan for about a month now, and I am starting to see and feel a difference in myself. I feel better, I'm not sick as often anymore, I feel better about not having to eat animals (because I love them, always have). My husband is a meat eater, and he picks on me so bad, and it is hard sometimes, but I am sticking to what I believe in and what makes me feel better, and I think that is what all Vegetarians/Vegans should do as well.|||opinions?
what do you mean exactly? you've not made any determinate assessment.|||I am not vegetarian because i believe its part of the whole circle of life, and human teeth are made to rip meat. For me i could never go without meat or any dairy products. But, i do think that they have a valid point. I really don't agree with the way that some companies treat the animals before they kill them, but that would probably the only reason I would go vegan/vegetarian but thats all. :)|||Personally, vegetarianism and veganism is the best way to go. It annoys me when meat-eaters go to the zoo (or something like that) and say, "Awwwww! Look at the cute little baby calf!!" and then go home and have beef burgers!! Animals were not created by God to be cuely treated and eaten. They came on this Earth with a purpose to help, not to die. I also dislike when so-called vegetarians eat eggs. They say an egg is not meat but it truely is! An egg is a chicken before it is born and eating an egg is like devouring a baby in the mother's stomach (except this isn't in the chicken's stomach). As a firm beliver in vegetarian and veganism (I am a vegetarian by the way), I think meat is a desire not a necessity. My grandfather has been a vegetarian all his life (72 years) and he is healthier than most 40 year old Americans!!!|||I believe it is a WAY better lifestyle! I feel guilty when my meat eating family has things like flaming-yon! BTW teamjacob, eggs are actually not babies when they are hatched. They have to fertilize the eggs! These eggs are meant to eat and they also have cage free eggs. I only eat those|||I don't eat animals because I personally think it's wrong (especially mammals because they are so similar to us), but I don't judge other people for making that decision. I also acknowledge that if I stop eating meat, the meat industry is not going to go out of business. As my husband puts it, cows (and other animals) are only around in such numbers because we raise them for food. I do my best to avoid meat, buy cage free eggs, and support animal welfare charities, but I try not to get too obsessive about things I have little control over.|||It's my life.
Simply, what I eat is tied in with my ethical concerns.
I know a vegan, and she started yapping off about how meats will kill you, how milk is horrible for you, and how processed food is terrible, she also said that meats are more toxic than plants when they are made, they are not cleaned.
Can someone please give me reasons why normal diet is good (specific details), and at least a few flaws in the vegan diet, i feel so stupid right now :/|||Go to the websites of the Mayo Clinic, The American Heart Association, The American Dietetic Association and even the The Cancer Society. All of these groups/organizations are far more credible and unbiased when it comes to health and nutrition and all include meat/dairy/eggs (the basic no-no of a vegan diet) in their recommended overall healthy diets/meal plans and shopping guides.
The responses of the vegans/vegetarians are typical self serving stereotypes by the fanatics that imply just because someone is vegan/vegetarian, they are automatically healthy as if they took some sort magic pill. Being a vegan/vegetarian is the end all purpose of their lives, nothing else matters.
You are alive so obviously meat and milk hasn't killed you. Billions of other people eat meat and none of them develop cancer, heart disease, diabetes etc (these diseases are all part of the vegan mantra against meat)
Milk has been around for more then ten thousand years. Billions of people have consumed milk regularly without ill effects. Vegan and vegetarian propaganda speak against the the product because they object to the process by which it is obtained. (Militant/Activist) Vegans in particular oppose the use of animals (calling it exploitation) but have been largely ignored so they are trying a different tack, mainly by demonizing milk. The hypocrisy against animal "exploitation" is highlighted however by vegans insisting their pets are not called "pets" but "animal companions" as if a simple name change means anything.
More toxic than plants? First that is not true. The most poisonous foods are plants. In fact most poisons are derived from plants. The most contaminated foods (10out of 12) are in fact plant foods. Of the last five big food recalls and health advisories (meaning foods contaminated to the point of not being for consumption even for animals), 4 were plant foods (the last one being the egg scare a few months back)
the only stupid thing you did was to ask this in this section where most vegans know hack sh*t about nutrition or food science beyond what they read of their favorite sites. Notice how you vegan friend and the other posters sound almost identical. That's what happens when you get your information from the same biased source.
How much you wanna bet a "vegan biologist" will answer with obscure websites and "studies" that have been proved wrong before.|||She is absolutely correct. Unfortunately she is also being a complete bore by preaching about it, but she will get over that side of it once she's matured as a vegan. Sorry I can't say anything in defence of your so-called "normal" diet other than to say that the human body can cope with (and benefit from) SMALL quantities of animal flesh, not the three meaty meals a day that most wealthy westerners eat. However, it is the production methods of that meat that makes veg*ns choose the more humane option, as the human body can function just as well on a plant-only diet.|||Normal balanced diet according to the food pyramid is still the best for health. Yes of course eating only meat will lead to many diseases like heart attacks, high blood pressure and diabetes. However, eating only vegetables and fruits is also very bad. One lacks protein needed for muscle growth. It can result in low blood pressure as well as hair loss. Without proper proteins, one lacks fatty acids such as those from fish that actually repairs muscle damage and prevent heart diseases. Every single diet in the end turns out to be a fad. The only thing that has yet to fail is a balanced diet with whole grains, fruits, vegetables and meat. As for her argument on how processed food is terrible I agree. However, you can easily replace unhealthy processed burger quality meat with organic steaks, free range chicken, etc.|||A plant-based diet does offer health benefits over an omnivorous one.
That's the consensus of the nutritional field.
Sorry.|||Meat and milk won't kill you (as long as you don't eat 10 lbs. of meat and drink 7 gallons of milk every day). However, processed foods are terrible for your health.
But to answer your question, there are no good arguments against veganism, because veganism is the practice of eliminating the use of non-human animal products. And there's nothing wrong with practicing such philosophy.
Oh, and also, there's no such thing as a "normal diet."|||Why argue at all? You are not going to be able to argue against veganism. It is just as healthy as any other well balanced diet. You best option is to tell her to leave you alone.
I would simply tell her that you respect her right to choose her diet, and she should respect yours. Tell her if she continues to bring it up, then you are not going to speak with her for the moment, as you do not want to criticize her and make her uncomfortable, the way she is doing to you.
There is no need to make up flaws, or even argue why you should be able to eat meat(it should not matter, your choices are no one else's business).|||As I learn more and more about veganism I really have to try to contain myself. Like your friend I want to spread the word to my friends. I want to say "you know the main ingredient in that hot dog is cancer, right?" I don't engage in those discussions however because it just makes us appear obnoxious and yappy as you say. So have some patience with your passionate vegan friend who just wants you to live longer. It seems as though a lot of meat eaters want to make arguments against a plant based lifestyle but the truth is vegans get enough protein, b12, fatty acids and all that. Vegans still have fun. And contrary to what some say if we were meant to consume meat the way some do we would have large canine teeth and shorter intestinal tracts. A lifestyle that is healthy, less cruel and better for the planet, why would you want to argue against that?|||sorry man vegan is healthier....you can be an ahole and argue plants are living organisms too (people tell me that it's annoying but makes you think) meat is made in a unsanitary way....you can say eating meat is good because of protein but that's week i mean beans have protein...hmm im vegetarian gonna go vegan but I hate when people are like that I mean eating meat is how we survived back then...but see that was back then now is now and if I don't have to eat an animal and still be healthier than ever doing it ;)) hmm a bad thing about being vegan is that you have to be so cautious like you can't wear fur or leather or use animal tested products and stuff .... a good thing about a normal diet may be that you can be very healthy and still eat meat as long as you balance it....to much of something, ANYTHING, may be bad for you! even water.... a bad thing about being vegan is sometimes your body can't take it and you have to be injected with proteins you need and other nutrients you lack in....than again a lot of fruits and veggies is one of the most healthiest things you may do!|||A vegan diet does not provide the human body with all the amino acids it requires for proper muscle health.This is why you never see a vegan that isn't scrawny.If we were meant to eat nothing but plants and nuts we would not have teeth designed to rip flesh and we would still have a functioning appendix and third molars(wisdom teeth).
Processed food is terrible but a nice steak or slab of ribs isn't "processed" any more than her tofu.Plants grow in dirt and use manure for fertilizer...I hope she washes her veggies when she gets them home...I have never found a lump of excrement on my pork roast and I understand those pickers don't have time to run to a port-a-potty every time. You can't convince them nor should you try.|||"The body needs protein, the brain needs fat" your diet severely limits both.
I don't agree with this argument, but this is the best place for you to start.
You can also attack the social life she is giving up to be healthier.
.... but when you realize she has a great body and perfect skin, you will always know its the veganism.|||educate yourself first
1) she's right about huge factory farms which don't care about animals and their health at all, they only care about profits.
take a tour of a huge modern pig-farming operation, or dairy-farming operation, or chicken-farming operation, or egg-producing operation, or cattle-farming operation. take a tour of the slaughterhouse operations.
then decide if you still want to ask this question, or how you might want to rephrase it.
2) if you decide to eat meat or dairy, source it from someone who cares as much about animals as they do about profits. source it from farmers who raise organic meat and dairy in humane conditions.|||balance is good you're both right. meats give protein and curves! milk can be good but i believe i read somewhere it can raise high blood pressure( i know, because even though i have normal blood pressure, it gave me a headache, no lie! processed food is bad, but her restriction to food is horibble beacuse people lose nutrients that are from these foods then spend money on supplements to get those nutrients.|||Uuhhhmmm......
still thinking.....
....hmm.....nope......
.Ooh, ooh I know I know....oh it's gone.
I'd really really love to help, it's not that I don't want to help you out, because I do. I love helping and I can feel your stupidity, I really can, Gosh, it's so hard, your position, I'd so love to give you some kind of help, something, some assistance.....let me think....carry two , over one, times pie, equals backlot carrier five...no, that's southern hemisphere only....uhhhh....see I'd love to help, and please don't think I don't want to help, because I do, really, I do. I DO. I do I do I do I do I do I do I DOOOO.
It's just that, and please don't take this the wrong way, and it's not because I don't wish I had something to help you out with, but it's just that, and I'm so terribly sorry to say it, I can't really thing of anything to give you that would help, even if I wanted to, which I do, I really do.
SO, and I said already but I'll say again. I really would like to help, But I can't bring myself to.
Because I just can't shake anything off the tree of truth your friend ( and I do think it's terribly nice of you to have a friend that you obviously have different opinions from- it shows you're an incredibly big person) hath shaken.
And shaken she hath, that tree of enlightenment, and all truth hath fallen assunder.
She telleth the truth, forsooth.|||No, you don't need a good argument! You are going to convince her of NOTHING! Her mind is made up....what YOU need to do, is your own research and find out if a normal diet is good for YOU or NOT.
You aren't stupid, but you got baited by a vegan who is passionate about being vegan...and she was ARMED WITH INFORMATION!|||"1) Her diet is better - she is correct."
NOWHERE does it say that she eats well. Vegetarian isn't synonymous with eating healthy. Vegans can eat healthy, but some of them don't. All it means is that you eat no meat.
And, Jesus Christ, you vegetarians are like wolves. You attack any comment that doesn't agree with your opinion, flame them, thumb them down, report it, etc. Why do you guys take it so personally? If you are allowed to have an opinion, why can't we?|||I'm a vegetarian, and there is nothing wrong with being vegetarian, but she's lucky she is living America where she can eat the way she wants to, and you can eat the way you want to, too. Anyone can make healthy eating choices with or without meat in their diet.|||wikipedia has information on veganism
at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism|||1) Her diet is better - she is correct.
2) She is being incredibly obnoxious. That's the worst thing about vegans.
Fortunately, not all of them are obnoxious.|||cows, chickens, fish, pork and the latter were put here by GOD to eat......why not eat meat then its our source of protein and calcium.
Also she is missing out on ice cream :D|||Sorry your friend is right champ. A vegetarian lifestyle is more healthy. Your friend is smarter than you.|||She's right|||Uuhhhmmm......|||The "flaw" in her diet is that it's incomplete. Someone who cuts out all animal products must take supplements for a lot of minerals and vitamins they're missing.
B12 is the biggie.
VeganHealth.org says supplement for B12.
The Vegan Society say supplement for B12.
VRG says supplement for B12.
TheVeganRD.com says:
"Vegans do need supplements or fortified foods, and admitting that a vegan diet is not automatically pure perfection is way better than getting sick.
Here, then, are supplements (or fortified foods) that vegans need:
All vegans: Vitamin B12. You can鈥檛 get enough by eating unwashed organic produce or mushrooms grown in B12-rich soil. The recommended dose is 25 to 100 micrograms per day or 1,000 micrograms 2-3 times per week. If you have not been taking B12 for a while, start out with 2,000 micrograms daily for several weeks. Or get a blood test to see where you are and whether you might need a more therapeutic dose..."
You can get B12 in pills, injections or eat manufactured B12 that's been added to highly processed foods. But it's not naturally found in ANY plant food.
http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/11/recomm鈥?/a>
Jack Norris, a VEGAN registered dietitian, BTW, recommends vegans and some vegetarians also supplement for iodine (if they eat soy products), vitamin D, calcium, zinc, B2, B6 and take a DHA supplement. Take time to read his site. Along with theveganRD, he's pretty upfront about the shortcomings of the vegan diet. But his answer is just pop another pill!
http://www.veganhealth.org/
And if your friend eats fake soy burgers, hot dogs, mayo, etc., she's eating about the most highly processed food available! Too much soy can be dangerous to your health:
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/so鈥?/a>|||Sure, Here you go:
Dairy fat, saturated animal fat, and cancer risk. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20574鈥?/a>
There's substantial evidence that replacing red meat with fish, poultry, beans, or nuts, could help prevent heart disease, and that lowering red meat can lower the risk of diabetes. Processed meats, especially, have been most strongly linked with cardiovascular disease and diabetes, at least in part due to their high added sodium content.
http://www.dietandcancerreport.org/
World Cancer Research Fund, American Institute for Cancer Research. Food, Nutrition, Physical Activity, and the Prevention of Cancer: a Global Perspective. Washington DC: AICR, 2007.
A major World Cancer Research Fund report on cancer prevention recommends consuming less than 18 ounces a week of red meat and avoiding processed meats (such as hot dogs, bacon, or ham) to lower the risk of colon cancer.
One concern about the high-protein diet craze has been that eating diets high in protein and fat, and low in carbohydrate, would harm the heart.
In fact, it is possible that eating more protein, especially vegetable protein, while cutting back on easily digested carbohydrates may benefit the heart. A 20-year prospective study of 82,802 women found that those who ate low-carbohydrate diets that were high in vegetable sources of fat or protein had a 30 percent lower risk of heart disease, compared to women who ate high-carbohydrate, low-fat diets. But women who ate low-carbohydrate diets that were high in animal fats or proteins did not have a reduced risk of heart disease.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query鈥?/a>
Digesting protein releases acids that the body usually neutralizes with calcium and other buffering agents in the blood. Eating lots of protein, such as the amounts recommended in the so-called low-carb or no-carb diets, takes lots of calcium. Some of this may be pulled from bone. Following a high-protein diet for a few weeks probably won't have much effect on bone strength. Doing it for a long time, though could weaken bone. In the Nurses' Health Study, for example, women who ate more than 95 grams of protein a day were 20 percent more likely to have broken a wrist over a 12-year period when compared with those who ate an average amount of protein (less than 68 grams a day). But this area of research is still controversial, and findings have not been consistent. Some studies suggest increasing protein increases risk of fractures; others associate high-protein diets with increased bone -mineral density. T
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query鈥?/a>
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20713鈥?/a>
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19662鈥?/a>
Milk is good source of pesticides, blood, mucus, pus, estrogen, progesterones, IGF or growth hormones,antibiotic residues, and FECAL BACTERIA!! Milk benefits bone health? lol To assume that osteoporosis is due to calcium deficiency is like assuming that cows ''need'' to be milked to feed people in order to live. To assume that height is due to drinking cow milk instead of genetics, regular exercising, and a well-balanced diet is stupid! Bone loss and deteriorating bone tissue that take place in osteoporosis are due not to calcium deficiency but rather to its destruction. It's not that our bodies don't get enough calcium, rather that they excrete too much of what they already have.
In the U.S. today, 44 million individuals are estimated to already have the disease and almost 34 million more are estimated to have low bone density, placing them at increased risk for osteoporosis and broken bones. Osteoporosis is a major public health threat which afflicts 55% of Americans aged 50 and above. Fragility fractures of ribs are also common in Western men. 1 in 3 British women have osteoporosis. Milk builds/protects bones?
Yet, in countries such as India, Japan, and Peru where average daily calcium intake is as low as 300 milligrams per day (less than a third of the U.S. recommendation for adults, ages 19 to 50), the incidence of bone fractures is quite low. Yet in countries where dairy is high/common, the rate of osteoporosis highest.|||Being a vegan is more healthy for you (Supposedly) but much more less fun.|||Normal diet is good because you DO enjoy nice meat and she doesn't! Too bad for her lol|||Kinda tough dealing with someone who has been brainwashed, isn't it?
And why so against it?|||If someone has twisted a verse to their own likes and dislikes, nothing I can do about it,
but there is nothing wrong with a little Stevie Ray Vaughn or Aerosmith once in awhile.
I do have a problem with people saying G. D. or music that disrespects the Lord.
Jesus asked the disciples if they had any meat??
And as far as I know, the word drum(s) is not in the KJV.
I want to add something- someone mentioned eating meat
after sin came in the world, but it was the Lord himself that
used the skins of the animals, so apparently not a problem.
.Genesis 3:21
Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.|||I'm Christian. I love rock, I play the guitar, I'm a vegetarian and every church I've been to has had drums, guitars and other instruments playing during worship. What Christians have you talked to? The hypocritical assholes who tell people they're going to hell, God's their enemy, beat people up and call gays fags? They are not Christian.
And the Bible says nothing about it b/c rock music wasn't invented yet, drums weren't the same as drum kits and we all started out as vegans but when sin came into the world people started to eat animals and fish.|||Rock Music-our church band is all rock music, and there are plenty of Christian rock bands. GOd loves self expression for his worship.
Veganism-There is nothing wrong with eating meat, but these days animals are being tortured and hurt extremely. Also animals are being consumed much more than they should be. I thikn that being a Vegan might help stop this uneeded pain on animals, and the Bible does say that humans are responsible for taking care of our planet, including the animals. Veganism is probably a great thing in many ways.
Drums in Church- The Bible has nothing against drums. We play drums in church. Drumbeats are the very heart of music... its the heartbeat.|||Any music is okay as long as you use it to glorify God.
Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals.With that said, there is nothing wrong with a Christian being a vegetarian. The Bible does not command us to eat meat. There is nothing wrong with abstaining from eating meat. What the Bible does say is that we should not force our convictions about this issue on other people or judge them by what they eat or do not eat.
“One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him.”
(Romans 14:2-3)|||People are searching for answers that simply do not exsist, The bilble does not address these
issues becuase at the time when it was written, there was not need to address them, out of
the commands giving to us, we then have to decide, if drums in church are right, or the sky is blue, veganism....etc|||These are some controversial issues that some believers struggle with but I've been a LONG term church going, Bible believing Christian so I can give you some general answers.
Rock Music: We are commanded to keep ourselves "unspotted by the world" meaning don't let in visuals, words and ideas that are going to be harmful to our spiritual well being or growth so this would depend on what kind of rock you mean. Some is relatively harmless like old Elvis songs and some is bad for you, like the songs that glorify sex, crime, (Think: Highway to Hell). If you wouldn't be embarrassed to have Jesus listen along with you, then it's OK.
Veganism: Paul says in the Bible not to let anyone judge you regarding food eaten, the sabbath you keep, etc. So veganism is perfectly fine IF you don't make a RELIGION out of it and keep it in it's proper place as just your eating choice. And on a personal note: Don't pester meat eaters:o)
Drums in church-absolutely NOT MENTIONED but the Bible does say "make a joyful noise unto the Lord" and drums are part of that in my opinion. Some older believers don't like them but it's a case of personal preference. I don't think you can make a biblical case against them.
So,I think few Christians are against these things as long as they don't pull you away from God.
I hope this helps.|||wow did you really think that drums and rock n roll was invented back then..lol ask Elvis he might be able to explain it better. Im sure all the evil men that invented the bible back in the days didn't know what the art of music was for that matter. There for the bible novel couldn't have been able to address the issue.|||god tells us to think on these things
Phi 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
if the rock music does not fit the things we are to think on above it should not be listened to
god tells us all meat was given by him for us to eat
we can not live with out protein
vegetable protein is not enough for the supply our bodies need|||i have many christian denominations already experimenting with this blending in of musical notes and cultural diversities,those baptists would love to get you.my catholic church i have to keep it the way it is because all that is done during the church service has its reason and purpose.,practice the holy rosary,practice makes perfect,we love you all,the holy family.|||Nothing wrong with rock music and drums in church.
Vegetarianism is unnecessary.|||The bible predates rock music by several hundred years. Probably not in there.|||Rock - IS OF THE DEVIL
Veganism - IS OF THE DEVIL
Drums - IS OF, eh it's alright I guess.
Oh fine, all you whiners.
Drums IS OF THE DEVIL.|||Umm, absolutely nothing, you should be fine as long as your not selling them.|||The bible says that Jesus appointed Peter and his successors in the Catholic church to guide people in faith and morals.|||Really, you think Rock music is specifically addressed in the bible?|||Rock music is not addressed, neither are veganism nor using drums.|||Rock Music hadn't been invented??|||Elvis was a Christian.|||GOD IS NOT LEGALISTIC...HE GAVE US BRAINS TO FIGURE THINGS OUT...drums arent wrong....if vegan is pagan then it would be wrong..rock music shouldnt be violent|||haha
Nothing.
And I'm not.|||what ever fireball said I believe the opposite ...just follow her dumb examples|||sure|||I recommend you visit this website for all your bullsh*t religion needs..
http://www.religionisbullshit.net/
Or is she old news now?|||She saw the light.|||lol Report Abuse
|||鈥淔or a year and a half, until about four months ago, I followed a strict vegan diet based on raw fruits and vegetables, no bread, sugar and coffee. But I had lost too much weight''-Megan Fox
Makes you wonder exactly what she was eating & why it was under the guise of veganism, seems more to me like she was doing this as a weight-loss fad diet than being a vegan. As i say time & time again just because you eat vegan based diets does not make you a vegan, no more than if i was to eat foods that adhered to halal (muslim) dietary laws would make me a muslim.|||She may have claimed to be vegan, but I doubt she was. The mistake most people make is thinking that veganism is just a fad, when it's really a lifestyle. If you truly claim to be vegan, you have to do research. To find out what foods have protein, omega 3 fatty acids, iron, B vitamins etc. Protein is in nuts, seeds, beans, milk alternatives, etc. Iron is in many seeds, nuts, and beans. Omega 3 is in flax seeds, and sunflower seeds. Vitamin B12 is in nutritional yeast, and foods that have B12 added to them such as cereals, Powerade, vegan protein bars etc. I doubt she did any research at. She probably just jumped right into it.|||Why would anyone listen to that twit? She also loved wearing a corset for that movie Jonas something or other, because it made her waist small. Yea...I actually enjoy breathing, kthanxbai.
Anyone who listens to whatever idiotic celebrities do deserve whatever happens to them.
And of course she quit, she wasn't a vegan to begin with.|||If I was to eat a raw vegan diet with no bread or sugar, I would probably start to look anorexic after a year too.
She was never a vegan, just another airhead celeb with an eating disorder, trying to pass it off as (and now blame it on) veganism.|||Oh dear, if an intellectual giant like Megan Fox decided veganism wasn't for her, perhaps I should as well! Good thing we have crusaders like you daisy, paid by the Weston A Price Foundation or whoever to show us the error of our ways.|||I have a better question...
Why are you so interested in what celebrities are up to? Is it to compensate for the life you don't have?|||Umm..she has no friends so apparently she only leaves her house for "chicken".
She is not a vegan she just loves her pet pig so she refuses to eat pork.|||I don't really know much about Megan Fox. If she was in fact a vegan for a while, then at least she tried it.|||Megan Fox a vegan? Ha.
She's been old news since before Transformers.|||Megan fox was paleo. She had a hard time keeping on the weight.|||So do I care?
No.
Take a morally superior stance to "non-believers:" Check
Follow a whole bunch of made up rules: Check
Try to convert people who don't live the same way: Check
The similarities are striking|||no, it is a kind of "lifestyle" but not a religion.
regards
Joe|||No. There is no deistic or spiritualistic aspect of veganism, and that is the essence of what we think of when we talk about a religion.
It often does come with a very pro-animal rights ideology (in fact, veganism is usually the consequence of this ideology, and not the other way around), but it wouldn't necessarily be so. One could imagine a vegan who was just psychologically put off by the taste of animal products or the idea of eating an animal/ animal products. I'm sure such people, if any exist, are extremely rare, but I mention the hypothetical case merely to point out that veganism is not properly considered a religion in any respect (and in the hypothetical case, it also does not necessarily conform to any of the items on your checklist).
The items on your checklist are the result of adopting an ideology with zeal. It applies to some vegans since the ideology of many vegans is one of animal rights and animal liberation. At best, I would say that some vegans treat veganism with a reverence and zeal that resembles religiosity as a result of their concomitant ideological commitment to animal rights.
But just saying hyperbolically that veganism is a religion is easier, sounds better, and gets the same point across. I was just having fun examining the semantic minutiae.|||I'm going to have to say no, unless you know some Vegans that are actually worshiping their vegetables.
I'm also not sure what you mean about "non-believers". Did you mean that you don't believe in Veganists or you don't believe in vegetables? I think they do both exist although I try not to eat either one of them.
Or do you mean like Atheism because you've lashed out against others because you feel persecuted that your beliefs are wrong by those who believe in things they can't prove are good for everyone. Oh, I see your point. We need to start a carnivorous Holy war that will fix everything.|||No.
Also you lied in all of your examples.
1. No they don't. I was often assailed by insults and presumptions for being vegan, though I did not bring up the topic in conversation unless I was asked. Prior to being vegan, my vegan friends never once said anything nasty to me about eating meat, wearing wool, etc. Would you consider a person who does not buy blood diamonds snotty or superior to those who do not?
2. There are no special rules. Vegan is just what you call people who abstain from animal products in their diet and life style. Should a vegan eat a Snickers bar or wear a leather belt, no vegan police are going to come for them. I find most vegans just appreciate any effort to make responsibility and ethical treatment of animals a priority.
3. I have never once had a vegan tell me anything I did not ask them to tell me first and in my experience it is meat eaters who crowd around me at a dinner party or Bar-b-q to ask with wide eyes why I'm not eating meat, then proceed to mock me. They act like drunk kids at a party, making fun of the teens who don't drink. I always just laughed it off, joked with them and moved on. Still, I found the attitude juvenile.
I lived vegan for a year and a half. I was vegetarian a year prior to that. Each month my family re-evaluated our stance and decided whether or not to go for another month. We did this to examine health benefits, to not give money to an industry we think is under regulated, over subsidized, abusive to farmers and often produces far too much pollution while also being inhumane to animals. We decided to try living as cruelty free as possible. It was fine. Now, we're breaking from living vegan to look for any differences in our health, weight etc. I know being vegan does not automatically mean being healthier, but it can be and often is, depending on the omnivore diet it is compared to. I've also found no substitute for animal testing, which has me considering a non-vegan, but still responsible, ethical lifestyle. I have never discouraged anyone from hunting, fishing or raising livestock on their own in the most ethical way possible or judged them for just buying what they can afford at the store. My solution to an ethical and practical problem is not automatically better than the next persons. Frankly, I think you're just an insecure bigot looking for a minority small enough for you to feel safe picking on.|||Except that the dictionary doesn't agree with your definition of religion.
And there isn't a whole bunch of made up rules, there's one rule, don't eat animal products, and thats not even a rule, if you don't want to follow it, you're just not a vegan.|||The original diet before the fall was a raw vegan one (or fruitarian)----a raw plant-based diet is devoid of cholesterol, unnecessary saturated fat, etc----when you cook food you deplete it of enzymes and all nutrients and vitamins become INFINITELY less bio-available----a raw plant-based diet has been known to reverse diabetes, heart disease, skin problems, etc----don't call out others just because they're living healthier and happier lives than you are----|||Some people do seem to treat it like you are saying. But not all. It doesn't have to be a false religion, and a vegan person could serve God.
Proverbs 15:17
"Better a small serving of vegetables with love
than a fattened calf with hatred."|||Only in a figurative way. "Veganism" does not pertain to the supernatural or divine.
But this is something you could troll Vegans with quite easily, if you wanted.|||seriously? my goodness gracious me oh my LOL, you dear seem to have some personal "issues", no?|||only, if you violate vegan rules, the vegan police comes and takes away your special vegan powers.|||Veganism has the same credibility as Atheism so no|||Of course it could be if there are a set of beliefs/rules and people in power and if someone is gaining money.|||Ramen|||That isn't the dictionary definition of a religion. Why not check that?|||You forgot self righteous|||the vegetarian section here is sadly lacking in trollism|||No.
It is simply a choice.|||It's just 6 billion people who can't accept each other.
You could call it a religion sure I'm not arguing.|||What about vegan atheists?|||and "Who" do you worship? The Jolly Green Giant? OK I'll join.|||it is more of a cult lifestyle
Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Not saying that Qur'an says you cannot be a vegan but argues with the Hindus that it is not required.
Is that right?|||As a few others have written, this does not contradict what Hindus believe.
Even if there is anything contradicting Hinduism, your thought process violates their beliefs. So they're mutually contradictory. So that doesn't prove them universally wrong.
Why are we even discussing who's right and who's wrong? We're all different. Can't we accept that?|||And of the grazing livestock are carriers [of burdens] and those [too] small. Eat of what Allah has provided for you and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy.
They are] eight mates - of the sheep, two and of the goats, two. Say, "Is it the two males He has forbidden or the two females or that which the wombs of the two females contain? Inform me with knowledge, if you should be truthful."
And of the camels, two and of the cattle, two. Say, "Is it the two males He has forbidden or the two females or that which the wombs of the two females contain? Or were you witnesses when Allah charged you with this? Then who is more unjust than one who invents a lie about Allah to mislead the people by [something] other than knowledge? Indeed, Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people."
Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to me [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animal or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure - or it be [that slaughtered in] disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful."
I do not see how it adresses Hindus or veganism. I do not even think there were Hindus in Mecca/Medina.
146: And to those who are Jews We prohibited every animal of uncloven hoof; and of the cattle and the sheep We prohibited to them their fat, except what adheres to their backs or the entrails or what is joined with bone. [By] that We repaid them for their injustice. And indeed, We are truthful.
The Jews were prohibited to eat foods that were previously permissible because of their injustice, Allah prohibited them certain foods.
Quran is for all time so each verse does not specify just one reason, it is for all mankind for all of time.|||You eat with a conscience. You ever heard of a fat vegetarian. I promote meat eating, being an organic farmer and all, but I also like people who eat vegetables (organic), it is good for the business and keeps the body healthy. You have vegetarians in all religions, many Muslims eat vegetables only because they are poor and in some countries meat is expensive. You eat what is available. The Quran|||I am no hindu , but medical science has proven that the consumption of animal meat is the cause of heart attacks, cancers and most diseases people suffer from
I've been looking for some songs and the majority of songs seem to be punk or rock or metal which just aren't my cup of tea. I'm fine with reggae, rap, and pretty much anything except punk and metal.
Know any good songs or have links to youtube videos?
Thanks! :)|||Goldfinger - Free Me.
Goldfinger ARE a Punk band but THIS song isn't punk.|||I am not sure of any song SPECIFICALLY written to promote vegetarianism, but there are some songs which have positive lyrics in regard to vegetarianism. KRS-One's (a rapper most popular in the 90s) song "Higher Level" has a lyric- referencing the the huge Christian, pro-life lobby who turns a blind eye to the plight of factory farm animals- "how can you have more respect for a holy book, than you do for a cow on a meat hook". That is just a lyric, though.
Also, I am not sure if he has any songs about veganism, but reggae artist Michael Franti is a dedicated vegan and outspoken human and animals rights activist- so if music fails, look up some interview with Franti.|||http://youtu.be/X8LnxSjWWD8
This one. Why must we eat the animals. Reggae and a great video too. And to the guy who said vegans were popular in the 80's and 90"? It is getting more popular everyday. ! Hope you like this video and song.|||I've always liked "Mystic Man" by Peter Tosh
"I man don't
Eat up your fried chicken
Not lickin'
I man don't
Eat up them frankfurters
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Eat down the hamburger
can鈥檛 do that
I man don鈥檛
Drink pink, blue, yellow, green soda"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7xCPgy5V鈥?/a>|||Good luck with that. You'd do better with spoken word. Veganism was very prominent during the 80s-90s punk scene.
Erykah Badu is vegan, so I'm sure she's got something about it.|||free me by gold finger. goldfinger is a punk band, but this song isn't. the lyrics are really awesome
This question sponsored by the condescension of redhedsweethart.|||I had a vegan for breakfast.|||I have. For breakfast I ate my front lawn.|||Me! me!.. but I own't be soon my gym shoes are leather & I'm going to work out.|||Celtic Tejas you disapoint me. i have and im not even vegan, im only veggie and from what i can think of my diet today has been vegan although i havent eaten my tea yet|||Of course I've been 100% vegan today - I'M VEGAN!!! :o) I'm 100% vegan every day.
ETA:
Shelley P - Special K isn't vegan I'm afraid. The Special K Medley cereal is, but that's the only one. Stick to the oatmeal ;o)|||I have been 100% true to veganism today, despite the fact that I'm not even a vegan (fully, but I am a vegetarian and don't eat MUCH milk or dairy)
But I ate an apple for breakfast, so I've been 100% vegan so far.. For lunch I plan to eat Special K (or maybe oatmeal) with rice milk, a banana, a few prunes (no jokes, I just happen to like them!) and and maybe an all-fruit "popcicle" if I need something to "finish the meal of" Oh.. probably a big glass of O.J..
Plan to have no supper besides another big glass of O.J..
so, today I'm probably gonna remain 100% true to veganism..
I'm currently on a wacky weight-loss diet. 77 lbs (from my original weight) and counting!! Which is seperate from my vegetarianism..|||well, I had only water and a banana for breakfast this monring, so technically I'm a vegan until I go out and have my typical lunch ;)
I am somewhat interested in veganism/vegetarianism, just b/c out of necessity, they have to make their foods taste delicious without meat and/or diary as well counter-respectively and those meatless/diaryless foods are something I would enjoy anyways.... not b/c of the other reasons ppl go with those eating styles.|||Of course I have been. I am the most moral vegan I know. Everyone knows I am a juicetarian. I juiced my healthy grass today.|||I am not a vegan but trying to cut down on meat and eat more healthily but choosing more veg to eat.
I will try and stick to being a vegetarian for the rest of the week.|||I'm 100% vegetarian, I'm close to being a vegan, though.
Edit: Pretty darn close. I am home today and don't own a car anyway. I am not going to wear my shoes, but I don't own any that are suede or leather. Don't know about my fruit juice & veggies.|||I failed the "vegan/veg" way today.
I completely explioted my monkey boy & possibly consumed an animal by-product. I did it really s...l...o...w...l...y tho so as not to emit too much carbon into the amosphere...|||Im a vegetarian (I eat cheese every once in a blue moon, no eggs or milk for me) but I try to follow a vegan diet as much as I can.
Today for breakfast I ate a plum and a piece of vegan blueberry cake I made (got this recipe from vegweb.com) and for lunch I ate spaghetti with sautee muchrooms and onions.|||You need to do something about this!!!!!!!
Think of all of the products on the market that have "vegan" on the label. Think of all of the restaurants that say that they serve "vegan" food. Please, defend the word "vegan" as best you can from this corruption.
You need to file lawsuits against all of these companies and businesses. When you have put all of them out of business and have made yourself rich from all of their court-ordered losses, please, come back here and tell us all about it.
You may also want to get in contact with The Vegan Society, the creators of the word "vegan", and let them know that they have been spreading the wrong definition since 1944. Tell them that if they do not put "100% animal-free" into their definition of a "vegan" you will sue them just like you did to Morningstar and Gardenburger.
http://www.vegansociety.com/phpws/index.鈥?/a>
Good Luck =)|||i ate no friutsa or veggies today or drove in a car just ate bread with egg-free mayo on it and cereal with soy milk
I've been looking for some songs and the majority of songs seem to be punk or rock or metal which just aren't my cup of tea. I'm fine with reggae, rap, and pretty much anything except punk and metal.
Know any good songs or have links to youtube videos?
Thanks! :)|||spawn again by Silverchair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhzSxNWNP鈥?/a>
it's the only pro-vegan song I know of, so take it or leave it.
I'm a vegan, but I want anti vegan arguments so I know how to counter them|||The main one is that some (but not all) people may not be able to get enough protein. I know vegans say that you can get protein from nuts, seeds, beans etc. but at least some people can not get enough protein on a vegan diet.
In addition to this some vegans eat way too many carbs they don't eat animal products and then load up on bread, pasta etc. which is not good.
Most people will do fine with a vegan diet but there are some who just need the protein and thus do need chicken or fish now and again.
Some vegans are just too "preachy" and honestly there are people who don't want to hear any kind of "message".
In some ways veganism is (not always) associated with liberal hippie types and many people do not like liberal hippies.|||You are not as good or better as you claim to be. All you have is a mere alternative lifestyle to what is universally accepted as the norm. Veganism doesn't make any more healthy, compassionate, "saintly" nor environmentally friendly as the websites would like you to believe. Nor does it give you any special right to impose your beliefs on others just because you think it's better. Remove the fancy words, veganism involves nothing more than what you eat, wear or sleep/sit on. It says nothing of how you should speak or behave or even think.
Not so much arguments but little reminders if you behave that way.. If you think the same, then we don't have to argue about your lifestyle.|||None. You can thrive and live long with that diet.
Other than there being few
vegan places to eat across the mid west of USA, then none.
Most people in the world don't live in USA, so no hassles.
Some will say you need b12- vegans can get b12 easily by eating soil=-grown foods- mushrooms, carrots spinach. A grain of soil contains as much b12 as you'd need daily.|||I personally can see nothing negative about being vegan, i am perfectly healthy and happy and my doctor finds no problem with my diet.|||Sorry, nothing comes to mind. Just live and let live. People can make their own choices and if they want to argue with you about veganism just agree to disagree.|||A good book to read is "Vegan Freak" it prepares you for all the scenarios including family, friends, strangers...|||Vegans do not consume enough fat or protein or calcium.
Idk I'm sure if they try they can find protein sources like nuts but just trying to give you an argument.|||Cheese is delicious. We are all going to die and if there isn't cheese in heaven I don't want to go.
I live a basically vegetarian lifestyle, however I do not expect to change any significant number of people into vegetarians. I am not inherently against the eating of animal products since some do not require the death of an animal, and also because death is going to happen anyway to all of us. What I am against is any form of mistreatment of animals before they are killed AND I am against any form of killing of the animals which is not quick, painless, and/or which causes excessive fear in the animals. I truly believe that we can live without the killing of animals, however, since I do not believe that people will give up meat anytime soon, I would like to help find and effect a way to reduce or eliminate the cruelty that is definitely part of the process as it currently is. I have personally seen horrific things that go way beyond death and it sickens me.|||The way I feel about it, every little think helps. First, I would start with chickens. Convince people to eat free range chickens and eggs. Hey, they cost a little more, but they are better for you, and your body will think you. Plus, if they are organic, your not rasing your chance of cancer. The same goes for most meat, if it's free range, it's better for you, and better for them.|||Well you could join an activist group. PETA has a great online website with searches for local groups.
The other thing you can do is educate people on what they are eating and offer alternatives. Mind you no one will want you around if your showing them pics of a slaughter house while they are eating a steak! lol. Make sure you know your facts and bring it up at appropriate times. Most people are sympathetic to animals and just don't really know what is going on. Trust me they will think about the things you said the next time they shop!
Don't forget to offer alternatives..tell them about free range and organic products. Encourage people to buy locally if possible. Offer some hints on what to look for at they markets they shop in.
You can't really pressure people to become vegetarian..thats your lifestyle choice..they have their's. But when they ask why you are make sure you tell them..you may change some minds! Good Luck!|||I am in total support of what you say. I am also living a vegetarian lifestyle as best as I can as living in Asia ...I've also seen the pain and suffering caused to animals and creatures that goes beyond human description. The animals also have emotions and fear is one of them. Any kind of love given to animals or creatures is responded by them. I believe documentaries showing how animals like the seals being clubbed to death...frogs being pelted and dogs being bludgeoned be aired to bring about a more humanitarian way or policies by govt of ending the animal's life.If this doesn't evoke compassion...then we are no better than the animals who kill for food. The difference between animals and humans is that we are able to discriminate.|||I would think the best bet would be to get regulations put into place that fine and/or take away licensing for companies that do not meet specific standards. Ideally, animal rights groups would take part in deciding what is acceptable.
Of course, modern science pretty much proves animal products are killing us, but until the people in charge start paying attention and urge people to stop eating them, at least the animals wouldn't be as terribly abused.|||technically eggs and milk cause about as much torture
chickens are cramped together in tiny cages and their beaks are seared off with a hot blade so they dont peck eachother, and when their bodies are worn out from drugs and excessive egg laying they get turned into cat food because the flesh is weak =/ i dont wanna get started on dairy cows and veal calves... umm the only way is to try to get them to see things your way. KFC is a main product of chicken torture, you can protest KFC and tell them you arent going to spend money at their restauraunts until they improve chicken conditions|||well lets see here .to end animal cruelty? first you would have to stop all those factory farms.lets see you go up to conagra and say excuse me sir would you please stop that. their response would be to crush you like a fly on the butt end of a cow .there is now no way to end this .money talks the rest walks.its kinda like throwing a wine cork into a volcano .|||No clue. But I hate to see animal cruelty or her about it. I wish animal cruelty was never done before.
Release the Borg|||Are you being facetious?
The only way one could force me to eat meat is to tie me up and shove it down my throat. The only way I would voluntarily meat meat (or animal products) is if (or they) it was standing between a pregnant and/or lactating me (and my baby was not on solids yet) and starving to death.|||I'm sorry, pollytroll, but your emotional response is on another website!|||Don't feed trolls. Reported.|||Kill us all!|||And once again little Polly fails at trolling|||You're not a crusader, honey. You are a lonely adolescent with some sort of social disorder and an unhealthy obsession.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I pity you. You are obviously not getting the help you need. Your parents and your school have let you down, and all you have in life is spending all day on your computer fighting windmills (or in this case your imaginary 'crusade' through trolling) so that you won't have to think about how limited you are in real life because of your social inadequacies.
Alone and friendless, you actually crave the negative responses you generate through your trolling because at least it is SOME kind of contact with other human beings. Even if they all hate you, you live for going over and over and over all your questions to review how 'witty' you were and how many people actually responded. Almost real contact.
Sad. Very sad.|||eating meat is what nature intended. dont think the stone age men would have survived if they didn't want to kill animals
Apparently...1 in 20 people in the UK are vegetarian or vegan. I'm not sure if it's increasing but I suppose it is. Do you reckon the UK (or the world at large) will ever be mainly vegetarian? A lot of peple are going veggie these days. Just a thought...what do you think?|||I don't have an answer, I just wanted to say it's good to see you back on here. You ok?|||Most of the world eats food that they can eat, not what they would want to eat. Besides the fact there are no world wide statistics on food (or did you really think the population of Somalia diet was tracked).
As for the US and UK the only studies we have are informal polls. And even in those there are a wide portion of the vegetarians who are occasional vegetarians. For example the last wide reaching study was in 1992 where the US population of vegetarians was counted as 12.5 million. At that time it would have been 7% of the population. However they also counted people who ate fish, eggs and drank milk.
Your best source would probably be IVU, as they track European vegetarians. As a whole however vegetarianism tends to be more cultural then by choice. And there is anecdotal evidence that the majority of the world (60% by some estimates) are vegetarian (mostly from the lack of access to food).
But there are many non scientific studies that show that vegetarianism is not any more prevalent today then it was 20 years ago. It tends to stay well below 10%, and in most cases below 5%, of the population. But since there is no food police it is nearly impossible to get totally accurate numbers or statics.|||It already is becoming so. In fact, my doctor pushes the vegetarian diet. The physician's association he belongs to promotes it as healthier than the omivore diet. It's obviously becoming more popular with food awareness becoming more and more en vogue: exposure of the dangers and cruelties of factory farming, the environmental concerns, etc. The world will probably never be entirely vegetarian, but it will never be seen as "weird" or really even "alternative" ever again. It's just another lifestyle that's just as valid and respectable as any other (probably moreso).|||No. Or at least not for a very very very long time. You're working against the entirety of human existence. Meat is woven into the fabric of human culture. And worldwide meat consumption is actually up because more people have the money to buy it than ever before. Plus worldwide veganism is an impossibility. Yes, I said impossibility. Through science we have made it possible for those in developed countries to complete their nutritional needs through supplements, but there are no supplements if you live in the middle of the woods, or the bush, or the desert... Let me be clear. I'm answering your question in a factual way. I'm not in any way saying someone shouldn't be vegetarian or vegan if they so choose.
EDIT: Guess again Denizen. What do you think your food is fortified with? Your B12 is coming from somewhere, and it's not just from a plant. Yes, synthetically, because you live in a developed country. Your not a bushman with zero access to fortified anything. "Do you reckon the UK (or the world at large) will ever be mainly vegetarian?" Stop fighting me, you're just being silly. I gave my answer, you gave yours, why try to put down mine?|||Absolutely. It'll probably be after we're dead, but I'm very confident of it. People are realizing how unhealthy and cruel our modern diet is, and although I doubt meat-eating will ever entirely disappear from our species, the current system cannot last. This is one of very few causes I am at all optimistic about, but the way the idea of Veg(etari)anism has snowballed in the last 20-30 years, it seems like it could happen.
"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."
- Leonardo Da Vinci|||i would like that. less demand, less cruel supply. hopefully. even though i never come across another vegetarian, im always the only vegetarian. gets tiresome sometimes, ppl going on about it, i dont go on about their dietary choice do i? gggrrrr.
people go veggie these days more for health than for ethical reasons. my reasons are ethical and i respect someone more if their reasons are ethical too, but i suppose the end result is all the same. but i dont think it'l ever replace meat eating. its just accepted, blindly.
some answers on here are totally misinformed. while humans might be 'meant' to eat meat, we would not be designed to eat it every day. and the meat would not come from animals living in unnatural and cruel conditions, with most of it going to waste. also, traditionally, people respected the animal who died to feed him. people dont do that anymore. just look at mcdonalds and kfc, people dont give a crap they forget that its an animal they are eating.
so even if more thought went into animal welfare issues in people decisions of purchasing meat and fish, i would be happy with that. cant argue those points now can u. think about things, are we all meant to just do what nature 'wants' for us? follow the crowd and not make our own choices based on our beliefs? at least we stand for something and do something about it. k rant over.|||i think in the future people will be split into two, the very poor and the very rich, and the very poor will be 400 pounds and wear crocs and swet pants and shop at walmart for genetically engineered meats and salty junk food and only live about 40 years or so. the very rich will wear weird futuristic all organic hemp fiber and cotton jumpsuits and have space aged organic greenhouses in their apartments and be 100% vegan gorgeous people who live to be 175 years old.|||Yes, I really do. It's much healthier and the food tastes great and you feel ALOT better.
It will take some time but yes, I truly think most people will be vegan eventually.|||Hopefully as racism and sexism are dying out, speciesism will have its time as well.|||Yes Veggie is mainstream because science has proved it to be more healthy than meat/pork/chicken etc|||Yea...it will one day.
When the time comes, we shall say that "they are living like a human know."|||I'M seeing more and more. Same thing happened with slavery right?|||Hopefully not, but I don't expect any better from the UK, where they don't have freedom of speech anymore.
Meat is very healthy, and humans are supposed to have meat in their diets, since we are omnivores, not rabbits. So when people become more educated about dietary matters, meat-eating should be on the rise.|||i hope not... im not a vegetarian. and im healthy, good looking and athletic. And i eat meat w/ almost every meal. GO MEAT!!
Just wondering lol! :)|||Whether or not a person looks "hot" is largely a matter of personal taste.
And yes. To me, vegans look hotter.|||Veganism is a philosophy opposing animal commodification,
and the resulting lifestyle including:
not buying or consuming meat or byproducts, dairy, eggs, honey, or foods containing them
not buying or wearing fur, leather, silk, wool, or clothing trimmed in them
not buying or using consumer products from companies whose distributors conduct animal toxicity tests
not buying pets from breeders or pet shops
not frequenting zoos, circuses, aquariums, rodeos and other venues where animals are held in captivity or forced to perform for human profit.
If you think compassion is "hot", then I'd agree.|||Supposedly, yes.
I've seen claims of clearer skin, softer hair, and even "six-packs"- all supposedly the result of veganism. I would be interested in seeing some proof to back up these claims.
On an unrelated note, have you ever noticed how it always seems to be the rudest, most insulting posters that claim to be more "compassionate"?|||no one should make such a personal decision as to become vegan on what others think of them and becoming vegan should only be done for the right reasons not to loose weight or look really indie.
Being vegan is hard work as you cannot eat out easily except in vegan restaurants and you cannot eat things with dairy produce in them which when you think about it is a lot of things. Also you would need to check all cosmetics and confectionery for the vegan approved sign. It's a hard decision to make and not one that should be taken lightly.|||No, but I did notice a trend: Most of the vegans I ever came across were somehow insane and lacking common-sense.
You aren't saving animals by going vegan, trust me.
With time, you start lacking essential nutrients as a vegan. Many hardcore vegans went back to eating meat due to health reasons.
It doesn't make you look hotter, it just makes you look sick, with time. Of course now, it depends on your body, too.
And, in the end, it's a personal choice.
Veganism does not equal HEALTH.|||Only to the person they see in the mirror.
ADDED: I had to laugh at the response about vegans eating fewer preservatives, dyes, etc. Tofu, fake burgers, fake hot dogs, fake meats of all kinds are certainly filled with preservatives and dyes. As others have said: just giving up all animal products doesn't mean you're eating a healthy diet.|||lol no. But some think it makes them look "cool". I'm a vegetarian but I don't advertise it everywhere, nor do I look down upon someone who has leather purse or shoes. Its a personal choice for me.|||Well since you're not consuming as many preservatives, fats, dyes, and such, some benefits may occur. Such as clearer and brighter skin.|||Beauty is an outer manifestation of inner health. All the raw vegans I know glow with health, have perfect skin, glistening eyes, and look 20-30 years younger.
I read that question today on yahoo answers, and took serious offense. [I myself am a vegan.] So, vegans, are you a vegan for health reasons and or love of animals, or because you want to 'be skinny'?|||YOU
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wow ALL OF YOUR OPINIONS ARE WRONG
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I AM QUESTIONING YOUR INTELLIGENCE.
Kidding! I'ven ever heard veganism being a secret anorexic plot, that's sick if true. The person who wrote that question before you was obviously deprived from oxygen for too long in some point of his/her life.
hahaha I love you, now get on MSN|||Take a look in a vegan's eyes when she unexpectedly stumbles upon a rich, creamy vegan cupcake at the organic deli, or a batch of french fries shimmering with peanut oil. Then watch her face as she devours them and you have your answer!
A very, very small percentage of people use veganism to try to mask an eating disorder. It's rare, and it's also usually easy to figure out.|||It's just someone who is clueless. I wouldn't take offense.
It's twisted, but some people with eating disorders call themselves vegan or vegetarian so they don't need to answer questions about why they aren't eating when everyone else is. Maybe that's where the person who asked the question was coming from. Also, many people who have eating disorders have a twisted idea of what is healthy. They might honestly believe that they are being healthy by not eating enough. |||I'm not a full vegan but in mum's religion [Buddhism] we have what you call "vegan days" about twice a month. I choose to follow along with mum's thing.
I love it because sometimes meat is just gross. It's good to get away from that every now and then. Plus I really do love my veggies!
Have a lovely day! |||I am not a vegan, but I think people that chose to be a vegan, do it for a number of reasons, and one of them is not to be skinny. Most vegans are very healthy and a normal body size|||its not to be skinny. i would not be vegan and be skinny if i wanted to. |||No. Anorexia is. |||Ignore the trolls. Posts like this are just reaffirming that their offensive posts are working.|||ahaha no offecnce but you obvsly cant be to smart for this question, im sure some people vegan to be skinny some are because they simply want to be vegan for the animals. it all depends on the person
Certain widespread diets (such as the standard American diet, which is high in fat and low in fiber and green vegetables) are detrimental to health, and a vegan diet thus represents an improvement, in part because vegan diets are often high enough in fruit and vegetables to meet or exceed the recommended fruit and vegetable intakes. Conversely, studies in Japan found that increased consumption of some animal products coincided with a decrease in risk for some forms of cerebrovascular disease and stroke mortality.
Some vegans feel additional health benefits are gained by eating food with minimal levels of substances such as growth hormones and antibiotics, which are often given to intensively farmed animals in countries where this is legal. Because they are similar to human hormones, growth-promoters such as anabolic steroids that are used in cattle farming in America may affect fetal and childhood development. Due to this uncertainty, the use of such growth promoters is illegal in the European community.
Benefits of vegetarian diets might be valid also for strict vegan diets: according to the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada, diets that avoid meat tend to have lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein, and higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants, such as vitamins C and E, and phytochemicals. People who avoid meat are reported to have lower body mass index than those following the average Canadian diet; from this follows lower death rates from ischemic heart disease; lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer.
The American Dietetic Association states that well-planned vegan diets can also be appropriate for life cycles requiring high nutritional intake such as pregnancy, lactation, childhood, and adolescence.
A pilot study at Georgetown University on 2005 suggested that a vegan diet can reduce blood cholesterol in people with type 2 diabetes, as well as significantly reduce the complications of this disease.
Athletic achievements are also used as an argument about the nutritional benefits of a vegan diet. Vegan athletes compete in a variety of sports, including powerlifting, bodybuilding, martial arts, and long distance running. Multiple Olympic gold medallist Carl Lewis has stated that he became vegan in 1990 and achieved his "best year of track competition" in 1991 when he ate a vegan diet.|||this article may answer that - from a a health, social, world perspective and religious
http://www.webcom.com/ara/col/books/VEG/鈥?/a>|||Veganism and Vegetarianism is very good for you but a person has to make sure that they get all the nutrients needed for the human body to function properly.
Many people will ask how people live without meat and protein and calcium, but the truth is that protein from legumes and other members of the nut family have protein & calcium that is more easily absorbed into the human body than that of meat and dairy products.
Other people may say: "If being vegan is so good for you, then why is it so hard for people to become vegan?"
The answer is that the human is said to be naturally an omnivore, (eats meat and veggies) but most humans wouldn't be able to kill an animal their selves, they have to cook it and disguise it in a way that is totally different then it's original state. Can you imagine looking at a raw, New York steak and salivating at the thought of eating it raw? No. but I bet you can imagine salivating at the sight of raw fruit and veggies.
The bottom line to this question is that if you were to be brought up, taught it was bad to eat animals then it wouldn't be that easy for you to become vegan or vegetarian. Would it? I bet that 99% of people in the US are brought up by meat eating parents, therefore, eat meat.
If you would like to know more look up Matthew Lush (Gay God)'s MySpace and read his views on veganism.
Another great site to go to, also run by Matthew Lush is: Veg Express (also a MySpace) devoted entirely to veganism.
I hope this helped you a lot and I hope the best for you!
*edit*
This answer was written by my 15yr. old son Russell who became vegan about 6mo. ago. At first I thought it was a phase we were going to *humor* him through and things wold get back to normal.
YEAH.....RIGHT!!!!!
He is more then ever convinced that it is the life style for him. It does take courage & will to do it though.
Good luck to you if you are thinking of going 'veg'! we are now eating at LEAST two non-meat meals a week as a family.
Thanks to the advice on this site I found ways to modify our regular diet on the meat days where I am not making two different meals!!
bottom line: WE ARE EATING MORE HEALTHY, ''BALANCED'' MEALS & AT THE SAME TIME THOSE OF US WHO HAVE A BIT OF EXTRA POUNDS ARE SLIMMING DOWN NATURALLY AND ALMOST EFFORTLESSLY!!
WHAT A GREAT SIDE EFFECT, DON'T YA THINK?|||Veganism is the best diet for you! Aslong as it includes all the essential vitamins and minerals, plus a healthy Omega 3 to 6 ratio. We do not need animal protein or haem iron (haem iron is already processed through the animals blood) to survive. Or the saturated fat.|||veganism is wrong. plain and simple. meat is good for you and you need it to survive.|||It is the best type of diet or eating style if you do it right! I'm an 0- type of blood type and I don't need any kind of meats. As long as I get sufficient Iron I have no problems with sickness. I got sick more when I was a meat eater! Beets contain lots of iron! So do many green foods! Beets have both the green and red! It don't matter what blood type you have. If you plan your eating properly with you choose to be vegetarian or vegan it's your choice. I'm a vegetarian.. veganism is a little to expensive for me!|||Well, most say it's the healthiest diet there is, but that my friend, is a myth just thought of to make more people want to be vegan. They will deny it 'till the end of the world, but trust me. Don't get me wrong, there are vegans that are just the nicest people you'd ever want to meet,(like my best friend) but there are some that only want to make everyone vegan(Ashly and her many clones). Anyway, to answer your question, no, a vegan diet is not good for you. Being vegan means no meat, no milk, no cheese, no animal byproducts, no eggs, and no ice cream! So that leaves you with fruits and vegetables. So basically you are taking out your main sources of protein, which, without tons of supplements, you can't get! One of my friends is a dietitian, and is looking at the links between veganism and anemia, a long term effect of veganism.|||Hey there, veganism in my opinion is super good for the body. Veggies and Fruits are excellent for the body they don't contain antibiotics that most cows are injected with. I have been vegan for 6 months now and I have notice a huge boost in energy. So to sum up my rambling Vegansin is alright and not so evil just give it a try and find out.|||Dean Ornish, M.D. was the first person to prove that heart disease can be reversed, and he did so by feeding his patients a vegetarian diet. John McDougall, M.D. has also written extensively about how animal foods cause disease, and how people can regain their health by eating vegan instead. The esteemed T. Colin Campbell oversaw the most massive study of the relationship between diet and disease, the China Study, which the New York Times called "the grand prix of epidemiology". His conclusions are the same as the other experts: we're not designed to eat animal foods, because we get sick when we do so.
The European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition found that being a vegan cuts your likelihood of being obese in half.
http://www.europeanvegetarian.org/evu/en鈥?/a>|||its personal choice.. red meat and animal protien has some nutritional value along with all other dairy products.. people that go over board in my opinion are weird because you miss out on soo soo SOOOOOO many culinary delights that meat chicken pork and fish give you.. enough said i will stick with my meat!|||It depends . . . veganism is neither good nor bad. It's how it is practiced.
I look at it from more the social/mental health perspective than a dietary or ethical choice and whether it has a place in modern society.
From my experience with vegans in both modern societies and those in more ancient cultures; "modern" vegans are truly "odd".
More often than not they have a obsessive- compulsivity towards diets and nutrition, anti-social behavior, auras of "doom & gloom", etc. There world-view is so limited as to make them insufferable boors to be around.
Moreover, there is no integration of their obsessiveness with spiritual practices that would allow them to participate wholly and full human beings in the world. This form is a great example of the pathological practice of veganism, IMO.
So veganism AS "practiced" in our modern world, is "bad", IMO.|||of course it is good for you, I am vegetarian too|||it could depend on your blood type.....i read recently that o+ blood types like myself require red meat|||Any diet can be bad if you don't get a good balance. However a good balanced plant based diet is recommended by the American Heart Association, American Diabetes Association, American Cancer Society, and other health based organizations. It lowers your cholesterol, sugar intake and insulin release, body fat count, and blood pressure. As long as you eat a well rounded plant based diet you won't lack anything you need including B12, protien, iron, and calcium. These are the main things that people claim vegetarians lack when in fact they get more since the material has not been filtered. Also, it does not make you fart mehtane. People really will make up anything these days.|||it is good for you.
it is good for the planet. oops it makes you fart methane, so it's bad for the green house effect.
it is bad for you.|||i believe its good for you|||Like Cheese Burgers and a salad just doen't cut it, i ain't no rabbit|||no! its actully better for u. but its better to b vegetarian health wise.|||It all depends on your diet.
Veganism can be very good for you if you do it right. Some people go vegan though and do not know how to keep themselves healthy.|||Probably is good for people. But, I LOVE my BEEF!!! I'm cooking some NOW. Smells sooo goood! :-D|||hell no meat is great 4 u
I am a large, strong, husky guy and I have always had to exercise extremely hard in order to stay in shape. My uncle introduced me to Veganism and I've been trying it. I had lost over 100 pounds while before I was even introduced to Veganism. I don't seem to be able to lose weight now, but I work out everyday and don't eat any meat. What's going on?|||Becoming a vegan isnt really a weighloss plan. Your uncle probably lost weight because he was not eating right- there are many nutrients that become difficult to work into your daily diet when you are not eating any animal products. Being a vegan is no healthier than being a meat eating person, if it is done correctly. The idea that veganism is healthier is a common misconception because it is generally the LIFESTYLE that most vegans follow that causes them to be healthier overall- such as doing yoga, living more stress free, getting more sleep, etc.
At the end of the day, weight loss is calories in, calories out. If you want to lose weight, just cut back on how much you eat, and up your exercise- but to a healthy point. A full grown male should eat about 2,500 calories a day. If you normally intake more than that, try making 2,500 your max intake. If you normally intake around that amount, cut back 150 calories one day, 250 the next, then 100 again, and mix it up. Also, make sure you are getting "good calories." Don't use up your allowance with sweets. Go for the fruits and veggies... or tofu is good too! There are some great recipies online that make it easier to choke down. =P By getting your calories from nutritous foods, you will get the vitamins your body needs to be able to work properly and lose weight more effectively.
Hope that helps!|||no its not|||Veganism can be dangerous if you don't take suppliments- you body needs some things that can be found in meat, which you can't get any other way, and it still isn't absorbed by your body the same way even if you do take suppliments. While Veganism isn't necessarily bad, you should still watch what you take into your body, and those needed vitamins and minerals that you can find in meat. Same is true for everyone, really.
But as for the weight loss, when you try to loose weight, it's easy to hit a "plateau" where nothing you do seems to do much help. It's hard, but just keep at it, and maybe tweak your diet or exercise regamine (sp?) a little. Don't starve yourself either (your metabolism slows and your body goes into "starvation mode," where everything possible is conserved). Whatever you do, don't stop. Then you'll just gain back all that weight you tried so hard to loose. People loose weight differently, depending on their body type, age, and metabolism, and probably a bunch of other factors that I'm forgetting.|||No, it is not. It is a good thing to try over a short term but not for the long haul. We are Omnivores, we must eat meat to have good health. After a couple of years you will notice your gums will start bleeding, that is because our mouths have a different chemistry than the rest of our bodies an need meat protein to maintain a healthy balance, other organs need this protein also, the mouth is the first to show what the long term effects will be. Some may go for years without any effects, some may not.|||read tips on vegetarian foods and more to help you on this site
Does your belief relate in any way to how you define a "troll"?|||This section is for omnivores and herbivores alike for asking and answering questions pertaining to veg*nism.
Many people have asked good questions here that people react with anger to, because they either think the person is trolling or they can't come up with an appropriate answer to the question and it frustrates them. I would define a troll (on this forum at least) as someone who purposefully/repeatedly deters from the community guidelines set by Yahoo:
Venting / Ranting - this can apply to herbivores and omnivores alike, I see it coming from both sides.
Belligerence, insults, slurs, obscenity and generally objectionable speech.
Exploitation: ie; vote for my sister for "sexist vegetarian of the year", or "click this link to support alternative scientific research methods" - they do not fit the Q/A format.
Cheating - Creating multiple accounts; I've seen many trolls "resurrect" themselves in this manner after having received a ban.
Doing Harm, giving bad advice intentionally, such as "all vegetarians should drink bleach" as an answer.
Acting maliciously- posting links to viruses or shock sites.|||This section is ABOUT vegetarianism and veganism, and other CLOSELY related topics, as are all sections of yahoo answers, respectively.
The standard definition of a troll is somebody that makes outrageous statements/questions for the sole purpose of "baiting" users to get a rise out of them.
Unfortunately, many users of this section frequently state or imply that non-vegetarians should not use (or even be prohibited from using) this section. Many users also appear to identify all non-vegetarians as "trolls". At least one "top contributor" (and occasionally other users) of this section even advocates reporting all posts made by non-vegetarians. Personally, I feel that reporting is for crybabies and tattletales, but I guess I don't have to like everything about yahoo answers.|||The section is for anyone who wants to ask proper questions about vegetarians and vegans. And I think of a troll as someone who deliberately comes on here to wind vegetarians and vegans up or ask a stupid question like "How do you like your steak?" Well, duh, it's the vegetarian section, so most people on here aren't going to eat steak or any other meat. The duh wasn't directed at you, however. Or if someone asks a question that really isn't related to vegetarianism at all I consider that trolling. So I don't think it's specifically for vegetarians and vegans but most people who come on here are vegetarians or vegans or they're omnivores looking for a vegetarian recipe.|||I think it is for both - it is a section where people can ask questions about vegetarians and vegans, but also a place for vegetarians and vegans to compare recipes.
It is not a place for omnivores to critize vegetarians and vegans, and when they do this, I think they are trolling. I don't mind when they ask geniune questions about our lifestyle, but I do mind when they make fun or us.|||ABOUT.
Non-vegetarians ask all sorts of legitimate questions in this category. They ask about taking their boyfriends and girlfriends to dinner, about how to react to a son or daughter going veg*n, and they are sometimes curious about our reasons for not eating meat or other animal products.
There are obnoxious people who come on here and rant and call names, but that's just a result of this being a popular and self-moderated site. Y!A guidelines are pretty reasonable, and I don't particularly appreciate those people who don't comply, but there is no reason to exclude somebody from this category just because they don't personally practice vegetarianism or veganism.|||about
its 'for' eveyrone who has any qs or as about the subject of the veggieisms or just wants a look
i suppose it may have to do with how i define a troll
to me, a troll is not soemone in a place they dont necearily seem to fit, its someone who purposfully seeks to hurt , offend or insult others for their own amusment or psychological issues|||About. I think there are some pretty arrogant people on both side of the issue. Some vegetarians feel like this forum is their territory and some meat eaters come here to ask stupid questions. There's a lot emotion attached to the topic so people can get extra rude and extra sensitive.|||I don't believe, I know that this section is ABOUT said subject. Its about discussing ALL sides of the subject, pros and cons.
And If any (Vegan Guy) doesn't like it there is something wrong with their (DNA)|||About vegetarianism and veganism.
And trolls are people. You never know when they might read something in the section that will actually make them reconsider their position.|||it is both. vegetarians and vegans come here and talk to each other, and others who aren't vegan or vegetarian. no has nothing to do with trolls|||yes, both. trolls are trolls, they define themselves.|||This section is for anyone who has a question about vegetarianism or veganism.|||About and no.
Healthy diet or whip myself?
I gotta go for the diet.|||That's a tough one. I think I'd pick the self-flagellation.|||hmm..i'm gonna have to go with self flagellation.|||Being a vegetarian but not a vegan, I would still rather choose self-flagellation. At least self-flagellation can only last so long.|||To me, personally, veganism is FAR more enjoyable.
It doesn't hurt.|||I don't view veganism as restricting. I mean, obviously your diet is constricted, but I feel, look better and I don't miss animal products at all. Especially with all the substitutes out there now. Ice cream, eggs, deli cuts, turkey, cheese, milk, pretty much anything you could think of.|||Vegans eat really well, what is your problem? Your questions are becoming boring.|||Self flagellation was never enjoyable that I remember. Not that I ever did it. Actually I have never hit myself with anything, although I once thought about hitting somebody with the leg of a pig. Pigs that's what pork is made out of.|||Yes!!!!!!!
Do you like the changes?|||After going vegan, I have become more healthier and more peaceful and loving. I always wanted peace and love and to help the world, and now become vegan even more so. Also I have become more happier, and clearer skin. And yes I love the changes!|||Deciding to change my diet (at the age of 13) was the first step in forming my own ideals, and breaking out of a authoritarian, conservative family.
It made me realize that you could decide who you wanted to be, then take steps to become that person.|||Veg@nism has made me more compassionate for not only animals but all living things on Earth. I don't kill bugs anymore, I don't like to cut down trees and i'm a lot more respectful to the environment. I no longer liter and I like to pick up trash I see. But other than that I am healthier and more conscious about what I put in my body. I respect my body more now and I just appreciate life more! And yes I love all the changes veg@nism has brought to me!|||I feel like a better person, mentally and phsically. I am proud of myself.|||I was born into it, but I wouldn't want it any other way.
I've thought about it, tried to seriously find it's flaws...but except for a few superficial arguments (ex. lack of iron..which can easily be remedied with a little thought), I honestly can't discredit it.
In the end, I guess it gives you a slightly different take on things (ex. thinking about the sanctity of life). But I'm sure a meat-eater could do the same =]
Not killing amounts to humility, in my book. Why would you think of it as arrogance? I don't get it.
Cultural disconnect, perhaps.|||possibly...is that a cult.....STICK TO THE TRINITY CHURCHES|||Just back to nature....
Why is, what other people eat or not eat, important to you?|||LOL. I guess so.|||I love this question! Yes, I think so. People have become so used to luxury that they've become detached by their primal "I must survive" instincts. Veganism can work if you live comfortably in a place where you have abundant water, fruits, vegetables, etc. But what if you had to be a caveman again & kill an animal in order to survive? The vegans would be the first to die. Either from not having the guts to hunt or refusing to eat animals & dying from malnutrition.|||You mean properly planned vegan diets are healthful and have been found to satisfy nutritional needs. And are credited with lowering the risk of colon cancer, heart attack, high blood cholesterol, high blood pressure, prostate cancer, and stroke is being arrogant? How so?||| vegans are crackpots. Your body is designed to eat meat and plant a like. Herbavores don't have canine teeth and we do. I say if you eat like a rabbit then its only a matter of time before you join it on the food chain. If anyone is thinking of becoming a vegan, you need to wake up and go kill something.|||No... If you don't want to eat animals is your decision and you shouldn't be mock for that...|||This one laughs with the responder who thought that being a vegetarian is a religion and who encourage others to "stay with the Trinity churches"! Let us hope she said such in jest...
One becomes a vegan in the personal beliefs that one has no right to harm sentient beings regardless of their individual level of development and awareness.
One also becomes a vegan when one realizes that if the whole world practiced such it would be a simple matter to produce enough food for all of the peoples of the world and would, thereby, be more beneficial to ones self and all others as well being a better use of all natural resources.
Perhaps it is not arrogance but humility and respect for all...
Be well.|||For many vegan is a form of protest against the cruelty to animals, they will not wear clothing made from animal sources such as wool and leather.
Many others are vegan so as not to be involved in the killing of any sentient being. I am a vegan with food only as I have to buy the clothes I can afford. It developed out of health conscious reasons and now I don't wish to be involved knowingly in the torture and killing of other beings. That being said, if I was as you say, in a survival situation or I lived someplace where I did not have the ability to be vegan then without a shred of guilt I would no longer be one. furthermore, I have no problem every once in a while taking in an animal product out of politeness to a host or something to that effect. I know this makes me not only a partial vegan but also a hypocrite but it is where I stand.
I don't think it is an example of arrogance, rather it is an example of how far we have evolved as a race on this planet. Any and every nutrient we get from animal sources we can get elsewhere...naturally. If we have the ability to do so is it not more conscientious to do so?
I'm a 16 y.o. Vegan but I don't know If im going to use them or not.
Is urea(urine) from herbivorous animals can't be use as plant fertilizer for vegan?
Is using wool not vegan? because they feel so hot in summers and need to be shaven.
Is woman removed placenta after baby's birth can't be eaten by a vegan? (Human Placenta is a animal product because human belong to animal kingdom)
|||Wool isn't vegan because they don't treat the sheep very well. I used to have to drive by a sheep farm that raised sheep for wool. Guess when they sheered them. Fall. NOT during summer when they needed it. They'd have full wool coats when it was 90 out and be sheered when it was below 32. That is because there's a market for wool products in fall, not in summer. Also, they sheer the sheep so fast they get all cut up.|||yes.
just avoid animal products as much as you can. its impossible to be 100 percent in this world
even just avoiding meat and dairy without checking ingredients at the supermarket you avoid supporting alot of abuse.|||I agree with you about the wool. Any animal would love to lose a hot and itchy coat in the summer and it doesn't even hurt. Can someone post the reason behind this?|||Urea: maybe.
Wool: most vegans would call this non-vegan
Human placenta: vegan. Not because it's not an animal product, but because of the consent. The big complaint with many animal products is that the animal gives no consent for the use.
Also, keep in mind that veganism has a spectrum of intensity. Take honey for example. Some vegans avoid honey, since the bees do not give consent. Others have no problem with honey, since the bees do not die for the honey harvested.|||I do everything within my power to avoid animal products. However, a couple of weeks ago, I bought a wool blend coat because I needed a coat. The warmest coat I have is 40+ years old (it's the 60's Jacki O style with the big round buttons and round collar; It's pretty, but heavy and not overly functional with a baby). My other coat is about 11 years old and has lost half of its feathers (bought before I cared and thought about from where my food and things came from). Even though it was 50% off, I am sure Old Navy still made some money on it. Also, I did not want to wait around until January to find something or to try and find something at Goodwill, when my need was immediate. At least it's wool blend.
I don't know why anybody would want to eat the placenta. A few weeks before the birth of our daughter, my husband and I saw some freaky show on HBO. I don't remember what it was or the purpose of the show. (Basicly, seemingly freaky things from a round the world, I guess.) Somebody had taken human placenta and made a pate' out of it. They even show the described vegan as eating it. My husband and I were both grossed out and amused by it. I think I said that that would have been something I wouldn't have tried even when I was eating anything and everything. After my daughter's birth, when I delivered the placenta, I looked at my husband and asked, "Want some pate'"? We laughed. Seriously, the thing looked gross.
My now 14 month old daughter receives breast milk, of course, but not cow's milk. Partially from the junk that is in it and how the cows are treated. Also, because she is a baby human, not a baby cow.
Overall, you have to do what you feel is right for you. I feel called into this life.Therefore, I do everything within my power to avoid meat and animal products.|||By definition, vegans do not eat, wear or use any animal products (generally understood to mean animals other than yourself).
So assuming you don't self-define as an animal (yes technically you are, but you're just *you* to yourself), it's OK to use your own urine, but not that of other animals. They can't consent to it and you can - the only reason you would have access to other animals' urine is if you or somebody else were oppressing them and controlling their lives, which isn't vegan.
Using wool isn't vegan because wool is an animal product. The sheep only have too much wool because humans have bred them for that trait - if you buy wool, you are supporting that unethical breeding and making it continue. They don't just go out and find some poor overheated sheep and do it a favour by shearing it - they breed the sheep for its wool and shave it to make profit from the fleece.
You may also want to look up what mulesing is...
Again, it depends if the woman self-defines as an animal - if not, it's vegan to eat it.
To the person who mentioned honey: Some vegans *do not* eat honey - if they eat honey they aren't vegan (just like people who eat fish aren't vegetarian). It doesn't matter whether you think it's justifiable (it's not, by ethical vegan standards, anyway) or not, it simply isn't vegan.|||You can never be too sure what kind of random animal part of something else was used in products you use. Yes you have vegan safe products. Some things are even animal tested that vegans try to stay away from.
|||do some of you people actually listen to yourselves when you type out your answers ?
sheep are sheered in the spring, not in the fall or winter(at least where i live),the mobs that live across the road at a four section sheep ranch(640 acres per section) are well taken care of and are not injured during sheering,don't assume you know about animals because you read about it online or the closest you have ever been to a ranch or farm is the meat counter in your local grocery store or you drove by a sheep ranch .if you don't want to use animal products then DON'T but don't spread your useless uneducated drivvel to make yourself look smart..
exclude all forms of animal exploitation"?
This question sponsored by Elizabeth J.|||You gave this definition:
"Veganism is a way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence for life. It applies to the practice of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals."
Where did you find that?
You said that was the definition according to the founder.
So provide a link.
Just curious...
Edit:
Thank you.
It's funny that you only did enough research to support your opinion. If you'd dug any deeper into that link you gave, you'd see that your definition is only partly right, because it omits the most important part.
Donald Watson is recognized as the founder of the Vegan Society (which I'm sure you know by now).
If I wanted HIS definition of veganism, the first place I'd look for it would be on the website of the organization that HE founded.
But you obviously don't want the Society's definition, because it doesn't prove your "point".
Here is the Vegan society's definition:
"In this Memorandum the word "veganism" denotes a philosophy and way of living which
seeks to exclude 鈥?as far as is possible and practical 鈥?all forms of exploitation of, and
cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the
development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the
environment."
-->> http://www.vegansociety.com/html/downloa鈥?/a>
If ANY definition of veganism is correct, it is this one.
Not the one that you gave which seems like an adapted version of the actual definition that I provided.
Edit:
I am not a vegan...
You got all of the information you just posted from the link that you provided earlier?
I don't think so...
The link that you gave gives that definition and nothing else about the "true" meaning of "veganism".
Where on the Vegan Society website(or any other website) did it say anything about them changing the original definition?
If there is a link, I'd be interested in seeing it.
I honestly don't get what your point is. Why do you feel the need to prove that vegans are hypocrites? Unless you have something against them.
Look up the user "Nice Guy" in Yahoo Answers. And you wonder why people think you are a troll??|||I abhor trolls...
Thanks for the best answer though :] Report Abuse
|||it wasn't changed..
Possibly it was CLARIFIED after people like you started trying to claim veganism is stupid because you can never REALLY be vegan..
EDIT: tried to make this edit earlier, but had internet problems..
Me-troll.. So you knew that you'd not get any favorable responses, so you had to use your newest profile "meat lover" To answer your question in a way that YOU would answer it??
Oh.. and good one, using your ashley profile to be "mean" to you so we wouldn't realize that it is you as well...
SIgh..|||You are trying to rille up everyone today!! I think that when it was first written (1960's) that it was a little easy to obtain that level then it is today. There wasn't as many processed foods, cars weren't quite as luxerious and a lot of our everyday items we take for granted weren't available then. It is almost impossible to live up to the defination as it was origianlly slated. At least in our culture, other asain cultures seem to be able to adapt to it better then Amercians.
Did anybody else have hard time getting on YA a little bit ago?
edit- Hey you know you love me- look up the fake traceilicious profile. She asked a ? earlier today. It proves she is a big fraud. I would look quick because I called "her" out on it and I am sure it will disappear! Thought you might find it funny!
edit 2- yeah that is it. just look at her profile and some of the q & a. I think you will get a kick out of it. you can email me with your thoughts if you like.|||Are you trying to acheive the most immoral person on the planet award? Because you win. You sould get your plaque in the post tomorrow. Buggar|||whatever changing was done, you did it.|||Allie hit it right on the nail :)
Just wondering, in response to a post in the hunting section if hunting should be illegal.|||As a flexitarian vegetarian I think that the fanatgical vegetarianism and veganism displayed on this forum should be considered a mental disorder and included in the next revision of the the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).|||No, it shouldn't. Everyone has the right to live as they chose. I may not agree with it but if someone else does, then go for it. Me, I couldn't live without my steaks.|||should christianity be illegal? homosexuality? interacial relationships? of course not. peoples are personal decisions are just that. personal. you wanna eat veggies, go ahead, you wanna eat meat then thats fine too.|||Sure. Why not?
We need more laws to govern human choices. Without laws to tell us how to behave, and how to think, the terrorists have already won.|||its matter of a diet choice. Lot of Asian people are vegetarian yet they are intelligent. Lot of people eat meat so others have food to eat as well. I'm a semi vegetarian so i know. I don't think neither one is a wrong choice. But there is one thing though.....people who eat mostly meat are overweight than their counterpart.|||LOL
Very funny.
Eat a dead animal, become a dead animal. Karma in action.|||NO
we have rights..and the govt has tried to tell us what is "right"
they make laws telling us what is right or wrong!
for example ganja is wrong because the govt says so! BUT DRINKING is fine..so ppl believe that its ok because its legal! when its worse than smoking..stupid govt...drinking kills so many ppl!
They Say its right to eat meat! AND SO they MUst think its right to BE SOO CRUEL TO ANIMALS!
They dont care about this earth ..all they care about is THEM AND THEIR POWER
ITs not right for them to tell us what is right or wrong! they HAVE NO RIGHT!
grrrrrr govt!!!!
so the answer to that question is veggie and vegans should be legal!
but i wouldnt be surprised if they were to try to make a stupid law agianst it..they have so many already|||So in other words, should eating meat be mandatory? Let's see them try to enforce that law. lol|||None of those things should be illegal. Some people don't understand that a certain amount of land can only support a certain amount of critters-conservation departments monitor this closely and issue hunting permits accordingly. If the game is not taken by hunters the animals will likely starve or die of disease.
But some are intolerant of other people's ignorance and seek to criticize a dietary choice that causes no harm to anyone, except perhaps the vgetarian/vegan if they eat unwisely-then they may starve or die of disease : )|||Uh, no. It's good for the environment and for people's health. It should be encouraged.|||OF COURSE, if the aim is to hurt others creatures and why only hunting? lets everyone be free to choose to be cannibal if they so want to!!!!!!|||I think the vegetable counterpart of hunting would foraging for your food in the forest, which by the way may be illegal where you live! some places don't allow you to retrieve animal, mineral or vegetable from national parks.|||If Vegetarianism is illegal then Quarter Indians are committing crime! :) in Hinduism in 2 main sects of society we are not allowed to touch Meat! thats like sin for us. In India there are like 100's of generation who haven't touched meat all their life.|||And while we are at it lets just take away the first amendment. Better yet lets become a communist nation and let the governement control every aspect of our lives. If it offends you that others have morals that is your problem and no one elses.|||hunting and vegetarianism or veganism are comparable in no way. it is my choice to eat how i wish, im not hurting anyone. it is not an animals choice to be chased down with a quad and blasted with a shot gun. hunting is unfair because it is not like one animal killing another...does a cougar carry ammo?? its pretty much going into someone elses house and blowing them away. its not enough that urban sprawl is forcing them into smaller and smaller corridors, but we have to seek them out in their own domain?? what kind of a pass time is that, hunters need to get a life and do something productive instead of "killing things" for fun.|||I am in complete agreement with JDGuru|||If we are to ban vegetarianism nad Veganism , you might as well condemn a quarter of the earth's population to death.
And the lady who says that vegetarians may die of undernourishment and disease needs to have her head examined.|||umm... no. were not hurting anyone, unlike in hunting. were ridding the world of violence, not adding to it.|||i dont think so. hunting for sport isnt okay but i think hunting for a meal (legally) is alright.
Recently a neighbor of mine neglected his dog. He left for vacation even though I asked him many times to give the dog some water. The dog had knocked over its water bowl with its chain. It was chained to a tree with no shelter. As soon as his car pulled out of the driveway to go on vacation, I immediately took the dog some water. It was so weak it could barely lift its head to drink. To tell you the truth, it was so motionless, I honestly thought it was dead. It is doing better now though. It is right here on the floor in front of me. I haven't got him to eat anything yet though. My other 2 dogs are eating vegan dog food, but I was wondering is it okay to try and give this dog vegan dog food or should I give it some other type of food since it is so weak from neglect?|||you are insane.|||WTF?? you can't a force a dog to be vegan, honestly this has to be the most retarded question I've ever seen on here, he's a dog! He eats meat, you could possibly kill him by putting him on a vegan diet. Report Abuse
|||give him some meat first till he builds his strength up then when he's recovered slowly introduce him to vegen food, a change in his diet needs to be done over time to let his body and digestive system get used to the change. i hope he feels better soon|||I would have thought it`s too weak at the moment. Boost him up first. He needs lots of protein. I don`t agree with turning dogs into vegetarians or vegans though. They are 100% carnivores.|||I'm probably give him one of those super dog foods, with all the vitamins and minerals and stuff. Even puppy stuff that is for young dogs.
Why do you feed your dogs vegan dog food anyway? They are DOGS, dogs eat meat. Hence the canine teeth remember?|||First off, TAKE THE DOG TO THE VET! HE prolly needs to be checked out, and then the vet can give you recommendations on feeding.|||First let it drink a little at a time. Then it will NEED some protien! Try some tuna or canned chicken. If you want to make that dog srewed-up like you, wait until it is healthy enough to survive your abuse!|||please.. don't impose your values / reality on those who cannot defend themselves...animals ESPECIALLY.....dogs are CARNIVORES.
period. They are not republicans, mormons, or pro-choice.....
their dogs.They are built to digest animal proteins , NOT VEG.!!! you don't see wolves lining up at the wheatgrass bar.
this particular animal needs professional help....call ASPCA.
YOU can choose your diet...they cannot...don't deny them their 'dogness'.
woof,baby.|||This is headline stuff. "STARVING DOG GETS SAVED BY VEGAN" Imagine the poor dogs emotions!! Poor little mutt..|||Are you stupid? Dogs need meat and bones to keep them healthy.|||Poor dogs! At least you have the luxury of speech, you can say when you dont like something.....I think its a case of if you are starving you will eat anything!|||If the dog is as weak and poorly as you say then you should let him decide by offering a choice.
When he returns to full health and assuming that you still have care of him then maybe that is the time to consider a change to the diet.
My personal feeling, though not an animal owner, is to let animals behave as 'naturally' as possible without harming anyone. That may well include having meat in the diet..|||Foxhunter, I read some of your other posts and my conclusion is that you're not a vegan, or vegetarian. Why are doing this? Get a life.|||Memo: These dogs want MEAT!!! I would say that you are close to as bad as that other owner. At least he doesnt force the dog to eat food he was certainly not meant to. DOGS are carnivores, not herbivores. YOU are an omnivore, so you should be eating meat too!!! Poor dogs. Do the hurt dog a favor and take him to the animal rescue or a vet and they will actually take care of him and give him a proper diet, ya freak.|||Dogs need to eat the food that they were created to eat (not vegan). If you are serious about this question, please take your dogs to the vet and consult with them about their diets. I am no professional, but I highly doubt that a vegan diet is the best diet nor a satisfactory one for dogs. Please get them help.|||Your dog needs a vet.
He might put the poor thing on a drip then you can think about feeding him but for goodness sake, i am vegetarian but that is my choice, a dog needs meat and vegetables. That is how nature intended it.
If you sympathize with this dog, why are you sitting on here asking questions when you should be sitting in your vets surgery.|||let me guess. Schools broke for lunch and all the popular kids have gone out to the shopping centre for lunch.
You've sneeked off to the library computers in the pretence that you've got some babe pen-pal somewhere.
The reality being that you are an unwanted loner child who can only get his kicks from watching girles in Eurovision costumes and writing insults here
Am i right ?|||Ask your fake question in the dog section.|||Hi
Is this true it ?
Why haven't you reported your neighbour for animal neglect,
he has gone on holiday and left the dog alone,
Have you got the dog in your house, the poor dog needs to see a vet first of all ,if the dog is as weak as you are telling us, you cannot feed it a Vegan diet, it needs protein and needs to be fed little and often, the vet will tell what to feed it, if you over feed it that can make it ill as well,
I hope when this neighbour gets back, you don't let him have the dog back,I hope you don't, for the poor dogs sake,
TAKE THE POOR DOG TO THE VETS, A.S.A.P|||Your neighbor has now done this same horrible act three times at least (check the guy's history readers). If your not reporting him he will continue. And you will be forced to make this "horrible" decision over and over.
With a name like foxhunter, why care about a dog, it is after all just a different breed of fox.
Stop posting lies here.|||Listen Satchel, crickets....|||Meat is easier to digest, and the dogs well being is your priority just now so I'd give it some meat to start with untill it gets its strength up - I know it's boggin but it's what it needs - then convert it to vegan diet once it's feeling better. That's an awful story! Hope he gets better soon xxxx
Actually I just took toph's advise n checked out your history - sorry but ya should just give up on a vege diet - it's obiously too complicated for you! n lol if all you've said about your neighbor is true ya need to phone the police, n yes it is legal to do that!!! xx
Can someone please explain to me what vegans usually eat and if they are as healthy as someone who does eat meat and eggs and things of that sort.|||Visit the VeggieBoard forum site! They have a special forum specifically for vegans, along with recipe forums, lifestyle forums, etc.
Here is the link - http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/forum鈥?/a>|||Simple Vegetarians\Vegans are 100% healthy Meat Eaters 100% not healthy. This link has hepful info http://www.vegan.org|||you can use wiki
or goggle it|||Vegans eat, wholemeal food, salads, vegetables, pasta, rice, fruit, seeds, legumes Various different beans, sprouted mung beans, Soya milk.Yes they are healthy, they do not need meat to survive, How can you think of eating meat as being healthy.
That you can name?
THANKS!|||that we think of ourselves as morally superior (i hate that one)
that we're protein deficient and dont get enough vitamins
we are weak and cant gain muscle
are food looks and tastes gross
its hard
its expensive
we're all liberal people who throw paint on fur coats and sit around playing our mandolins around a camp fire
we're picky and hard to accomidate
we're "preachy" and go around arguing with every omni out there|||That they are all pale.
I wish! I have the red-est cheeks.
Any kind of flutuation hot/ cold they light up and I look like I've just been caught naked on international television.
I've learned to accept them :-)
But I still like to complain !|||That they are all really skinny, I am very healthy indeed|||that were all crazy hippes|||That all vegans are hippies.
That all vegans are malnourished.
That all vegans are animal rights activists
That you can't get a balanced diet from veganism.
That vegans just call themselves vegans to make a stand but really sneak bacon strips at home..|||Skinny and malnourished
Self-righteous
Animal rights obsessed
Angry
Pushing their agenda on people
Unfortunate but true. I'm proud to be an example of a happy, healthy, beautiful, active, compassionate, and accepting vegan.
Oh god. Did you not find this same question asked a million times when you tried to post this one? http://answers.yahoo.com/search/search_r鈥?/a>
1. Take a middle school biology class and educate yourself on nervous systems.
2. The animals you eat consume farrr more plants than I ever will, so I'm still doing the least harm. You lose.
3. Veganism isn't about being a martyr and dying for your cause. We don't avoid things just to avoid them. There's a REASON.|||Plants are not conscious. They cannot suffer.
Veganism is about respect for all animals, not all life|||Would you have the vegans eat nothing and die?|||Yeah, like it really hurts a carrot when it's pulled out of the ground. Please. Like we haven't gotten bashed over the head with this idiotic argument dozens of times before. It's right up there with wisenheimers asking if we eat animal crackers.
Besides, I'm not a vegan because I love animals, but because I hate plants. /sarcasm|||Well humans were created as herbivores and are meant to eat plants, according to the Bible, God said that plants are here for us to eat. If vegans don't eat plants then there isn't really anything else for them to eat. Vegetables aren't tortured at vegetables factory farms either, so there's nothing wrong with eating plants.|||Every person eats plants, a person who is vegan is saving plants by not eating animals. Animals need to consume plants and feed in order to survive and by eating an animal you are wasting resources. It takes less plants to just go directly to the human for consumption than to be fed to an animal for a couple years(like a cow) than have it slaughtered to be fed to humans, when the land used to grow its feed could have been cultivated to grow food to go straight to human hands to eat.|||Plants have no nervous system, feelings, brain, or mind. I think it's okay.|||They are saving as many lives as they can, without sacrificing their own. Good enough for me.
you also have to think about if you consider plants on an equal plane with animals. Plants are very very different.|||well I as a matter of fact am on the journey towards becoming a BREATHATARIAN. im not kidding either it takes years and years but the human body can be trained to live off of just air it starts with veganism,then being a fruitarian (just eating fruits,cuz thats how it should be) then eventually your body can adjust to living offf of the air you breath.its true.im not joking look it up.|||yea but they dont have nervous systems so they dont feel pain.
KISS KISS
MS.Life sytle of the rich and famous|||If it wasn't for our double standards, us vegans, would starve to death.
A source would be nice.|||what the hell, no.
There is a very good and real argument that if everyone who now ate animal products stopped, the animal land could be used for human food and all those animal crops ( 70% of the planet's food) would go to people. The only remaining animals would be the 3% or so that are naturally living and none of the factory farmed animals that exist. YEs, in that case world hunger CAN be solved.
But there is enough food to feed a lot more people than are being fed now, and governments are not letting it get to them.
SO yes, the hunger in the world would be lessened if the world was vegan, but human greed and need to corrupt and be powerful is going to be around as long as there are humans. So it's almost impossible to take one thing away from the equation.|||I doubt it.
There's actually more than enough food in the world for every person on earth.
The problem is that it is not evenly distributed.|||better controlled by people having less children in poor economic countries|||It would not solve world hunger.
And this is coming from a vegan.|||no if your hungry you will eat anyting just sayin.|||It could be, but it won't because of greed.
Why do you call vegans hypocrites?|||As a vegetarian, I am personally not against vegans but actually strongly support them and give them a lot of respect because it is not an easy thing to do. I secretly wish I had that much courrage to become a vegan.
But, only when they are ranting and accusing me as being an "animal rapist", "murderer" or a "horrible mother to animals" I can sort of feel against that PERSON (not every vegan, but some people do, giving veganism a bad name). Fair enough when you are explaining the horrors in the egg/milk industry, but you they shouldn't accuse me and force their opinions on me. Everyone is different so you can't expect everyone to think milk is murder.
I doubt I'll get best answer, but this is my opinion of what a vegetarian think of vegans. I think you'll get better answers from non-vegetarians.|||The vegan philosophy is basically to consume no animal products (meats), no animal byproducts (dairy), no product derived from animal testing, and use no animal hides or furs. Some make the exception of using products from animals that have died from natural causes, but most do not.
This is against our very nature as primates. Yes, it is true that we no longer live in trees, or wander the grasslands, but our basic nutritional requirements have not changed because we are still the same species.
The other reason is that vegans have the same personality as evangelical christians: they are vegans and they want everyone else to know about it. It's like going to a bar with a friend and her saying she doesn't drink because she's christian. Vegans don't drink because animals are used in the process of making beer/wine/etc. Neither group is fun to hang around with because of their "holier than thou" attitude.|||Let me rephrase that question "why are you against people that eat meat?"
I am not being critical, but this was the eventful question that I asked myself after switching to a gluten, dairy and sugar free diet (vegetarian). Suddenly the world seems unfriendly, and you notice that people begin to resist your change (e.g. from feeling sorry for you to direct displeasure). Not only that, there are very very few places where you can actually eat. It almost feels discriminatory and uncaring. So not only do people bring up their issues (because after all they do not want to be challenged), you also bring your own issues (e.g. Why do people not listen, you see the damage that is produced in their bodies by excess sugar, caffeine, processed foods, etc).
Rather then turn your back on the world and go and live the life as a hermit, think about it as a process. It is a given that you will challenge people.
Also, look at it as an opportunity to learn about yourself. For example, I found that some restaurants are happy to give you a gluten/dairy free dish, or you can ask for some dish and say "just don't put any dairy in it", another one, is "cook your own meals".
Eventually you will get it right. At that moment, you will also see that you begin to criticize people less and less, and the world will not seem as unfriendly any more because you have found your own way.
From :( :( :( to this :) :) :p
P.s. the last one was a joke...|||People think people who are vegans, and vegetarianism in general too are unnatural. They feel it's hypocritical because we eat plants that are alive too. Plants scientifically can't feel pain, but animals can.
There are some people here who like to bring up that planting crops kill field mice and other animals who live on the ground to make room to grow plant foods. Although, our diets aren't intentionally meant to harm and kill animals. Omnivore diets are meant to kill animals to get meat, leather, fur, and other items from dead animals. Just don't listen to them.
Oh yeah, and I can't forget that they mention what humans did millions of years ago to get food and that lions eat meat. Too bad lions are designed to eat meat. They have a carnivorous digestive system, claws, and fangs to kill live animals and eat them raw. Humans never do that. They're not meant to eat meat. The only way humans can kill animals is by using man made materials, then cook them before they eat them.|||Theyre envious. The body of a vegan looks much more natural than the body of a meat eater.
God would not even recognize most of todays americans as human.|||Life is all a big spectrum. Some life is more complex, but it's all life. Bacteria consume, grow, replicate, change and evolve. Your body's immune system kills bacteria by the thousands daily. Plants too are living - sure, they don't have nervous systems, maybe they can't feel pain, but they're still living to some extent. I find the line vegans draw entirely arbitrary.
And for as long as there have been complex life on this planet, bigger, stronger, faster, smarter things have been eating smaller, slower, weaker, dumber things. It is the way the planet works.
okay, we humans MIGHT be vegan based but common knowledge dogs are carnivores.
why on earth would vegans parade around supporting that we are a herbivore species and it's unatural to eat meat, and then try to convert their carnivore pet into a herbivore ? that is HIGHLY unnatural and abusive towards the pet.
if you don't believe me, google 'vegan dog'.
|||You are generalizing far too much, and have your facts mixed up. Not all vegans try and convert their dogs to a veg*n diet, it is the personal choice of each individual owner. Secondly, dogs are not carnivores, they are omnivores(like humans), and can live quite well on a balanced meatless diet(in fact there are brands of vegetarian dog food).
I see nothing abusive about switching a dog onto a vegetarian diet(there are many reputable brands of food that offer the choice). In fact it is often recommended for dogs with severe allergies to try a meatless diet, as they may be allergic to the meat proteins.
I think you should get your facts straight before judging others for a choice that is perfectly healthy. You may not want to feed your dog a vegetarian diet, but others may choose it, and as long as it is done properly(and the right food is chosen), than it should be none of your concern.|||Like everyone else said
1. most vegans do not parade around saying we are herbivores. I'm vegan, I think we were naturally ominvores.
2. most vegans do not convert their carnivore pets into herbivores.
But to answer the question, I think this is because dog and cat food are also made in factory farms. I reckon that some vegans want to feed their dogs a vegan diet because they will take every chance to reduce animal suffering.
And think about it this way, if their dog is going to remain healthy from a vegan diet, then why not?
Of course a vegan diet is not natural for dogs, but it won't hurt them. This being said, you have to remember that factory farming, on the other hand, is extremely cruel and WILL hurt lots of animals. So putting things in perspective, I hope you can understand why some vegans feel that feeding a dog a vegan diet could go long ways in reducing suffering, reducing demand, reducing supply, reducing cruelty in our factory farms.
That's my take on it, hope it helped.|||To those saying dogs are carnivores, they're not - they're actually omnivores. (So much for "common knowledge".) Dogs will gladly (or at least, mine will) eat rice, potatoes, crisps, corn chips, popcorn, peanuts, pretzels, pasta, bread, toast, crumpets, nuts, cake, biscuits, carrots, peas, plums, grapes, etc. But while he likes those sorts of foods as an occasional treat, his favourite staple food (at the moment) is turkey. A lot of the better-quality dog foods in cans or sachets contain rice or pasta, with vegetables, all mixed in with the animal flesh. If dogs were truly carnivores, would that really be the case? Or would all the processed dog food only be of animal origin?
I am a vegetarian, not a vegan, so I can't speak on their behalf. But, like me, I doubt that very many of them (of the parading around or the not parading around variety) would even entertain the thought of trying to convert their pet dog to veganism (or vegetarianism). I don't doubt that it is possible for dogs to be perfectly healthy on a vegetarian diet, because I've heard of a couple of examples, but it's not something I'm going to attempt. At nine years old, he's a little bit old to be drastically changing his diet. If I'd wanted to, I would have started it when he was still a pup.
I think you're basing your rant (sorry, I really must try to remember to use the word "question") on the erroneous belief that a few extremist vegan dog-owners are representative of all vegan dog-owners. They're not. Why not just delete the question, before you're made to look (even more) stupid?
HH: I honestly thought you were just the new troll on the block, but now I've found out that you're actually a major league moron to boot.
The good quality dog foods are the ones that my dog is more likely to finish. The poor quality ones are the ones that he'll just leave in his dish. THAT is the measure of quality, not some cretinous "my family owns a chain of pet stores, so I know everything there is to know about everything" crap.
EDIT: HH, I see you've either deleted your answer, or someone has reported it and got it deleted for you. I'll leave my response here, just in case you repost your twaddle.|||'why are vegans trying to convert their dogs into veganism?'
Are they? I know several vegans, some who have dogs, and don't know any who are doing that.
I'm vegan; I don't have a dog, but I do have a cat and I feed him meat. To do otherwise would be cruel.
There are vegan and vegetarian pet foods produced it's true, but from the vegans I know with animals and from what I read on this forum I doubt they make a huge profit.
Oh, and most vegans don't claim that we're herbivores; we're omnivores and some of us choose to live on a plant-based diet which, as omnivores, we are able to do. Can't remember the last time I paraded around, either|||You make several generalisations in your rant / question.
1. I'm vegan and I have never claimed humans to be herbivores. Humans are OMNIVORES (and yes, that's coming from a vegan).
2. I don't believe in forcing cats and dogs to have meatless diets. I have a herbivorous pet (a rabbit) so I don't need to feed him meat. That's not to say vegans don't have meat eating pets. I know vegans who own cats, etc and they feed them their natural diet - animal flesh.
Meat is especially important for cats, because plant foods lack taurine, an essential amino acid for cats. Without it they go blind and eventually die.
Humans are lucky, it just so happens we can be fine as a meat eater, vegetarian or vegan. But I think if you truly love your pet you would offer a diet that is NATURAL for it.
So... Please don't generalise about vegans. Like anyone else we are a diverse group of people and each vegan will have a different perspective. You can't expect us all to be the same.
|||I've heard of that, I've been a vegetarian for almost 9 years and a vegan for 2, and I am a COMPLETE supporter of vegetarianism, but this is the stupidest thing a person can do.
Its unnatural to the pet (as you said) and very dangerous, unlike humans, cats and dogs ARE meant to eat meat, its what their body is designed for, to do other wise is seriously compromising their immune system, and ultimately, their life.|||I have 2 cats, they eat cat food that has meat in it. I'm vegetarian...
However, I am careful with what cat food I use, the more natural with less fillers, the better... And I agree with you, animals need meat proteins alot more then us humans..|||Firstly, most vegans do not "parade around".
Secondly, yes, dogs IN THE WILD are carnivorous however it is perfectly viable for a domestic dog to get all its nutrients from specially developed vegan dog food. |||thats just rubbish, dnt blv all the crap ppl put on the net|||Seems most people don't understand what is in most commercial dog (and cat) foods, otherwise they wouldn't be the best selling brands ("Ol' Roy" at Wal-Mart outsells all other dog foods).
I sure didn't.
Truth is most of those foods are corn, soy, rice, and wheat based with the various vegetable glutens boosting the protein content (these glutens are also used in meats meant for human consumption to raise the protein content as well as stretch the products and increase the profits). That's what was behind the pet food recalls last year because of the sourcing for the very cheapest ingredients leading to China which had greed-induced adulteration of the protein gluten with melamine. That's when I found out as it just never occurred to me that cat food wouldn't be salmon, tuna, beef & cheese, or whatever the label stated on the front but I was surprised to find nearly all food in most stores was basically corn.
What "meat" is in the foods is by-products of rendering which can include euthanized pets and horse meat. But for the most part pet food is meat-flavored plant-based kibble & bits with vital nutrients (such as taurine for cats) added.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_food#Co鈥?/a>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_pet_fo鈥?/a>
http://www.allbusiness.com/manufacturing鈥?/a>
So frankly, I think most people, the majority being confirmed omnivores, who have pets are being abusive in what they feed them and I was one of them for quite a while. I no longer have a cat, nor will I get another in big part because of the need to feed them other animals even if the icky bits nothing else will eat (but perhaps those animals we consume such as chickens, cows and pigs). I do however donate to charity so animals can be spade or neutered so there will be less pets in need of homes they'll likely never get.
.|||I have seen posts on here that boast the benefits of having your dog "go vegan". I think these people should have their heads checked. Dogs are carnivorous animals and should eat as such. People that try to change their pets natural behavior should not be able to own pets.
Hey, can anyone tell me how many servings of what should a 13 year old vegan get?
Also, can someone tell me the nutrient's contained in cauliflower, grapes, bananas broccoli, and spinach?|||As long as you are knowledgable and smart about your diet - keeping in mind allergies, other health concerns, etc, it does not matter is you are vegan, vegetarian, or an omnivore. I completely agree with you.
Here are a few sites to help with nutrient information:
http://www.dietobio.com/ - this one has broccoli and some ideas for meals
http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php - this one looks better and has all the foods you listed and many more
I tried to go to USDA database, but it did not work for me.
Best wishes and have a good evening!|||Eat as many fruits and veggies as you want, eat moderate amounts of grain,eat moderate amounts of beans and nuts. Take b12 or consume it in fortified foods. No need to hassle with complicated serving sizes.
Here, go to this site and type in foods you would like to know the nutritional analysis of.
http://www.nutritiondata.com/|||http://www.veganfoodpyramid.com/|||Okay well at 13 its not good for you to be vegan because the nurtients in meat even if its just chicken and white meats would be helpful however, if you cant stand to eat 3 big meals eat 6 small ones.
If you are a vegan or even a strict vegetarian, how has your health improved? For me, I have atopy (severe allergies) and my symptoms are soo much better since going vegan. (http://sitemaker.umich.edu/fm_integrativ鈥?/a> I'm just curious what other people have experienced.|||It's made me tired and lazy. Oh improved, it hasn't improved anything.|||well, I'm not a vegan, but I am a laco-ovo vegetarian, which has improved my health by giving me more energy. According to the food pyramid, plants have more energy than animals.
It also helps prevent diseases that meat can cause.
If you have negative effects, then your just not eating healthily. Same as omnivores.
and btw, Genevieve, a strict vegetarian is someone who follows the eating habits of a vegan, but still uses animal products, such as silk. They do exist.|||i'm not vegan, just vegetarian. but i don't eat a lot of dairy products (just not too fond of them i guess) so i guess i could be called strict? i also don't eat fish or eggs. i have a semi-serious heart condition and my cardiologist says that my condition has greatly improved :) i also had digestive issues (every time i ate a decent-sized meal i had a stomach ache for 2 hours+), which have completely disappeared since becoming a vegetarian. i feel so much healthier and more energetic!|||I lost weight. I seem to have more problems than benefits. I used to be tired all the time and lacked focus. I am currently anemic and taking prescribed iron supplement. But I think it is because I was overly stressed out, unhappy, sleep deprived, and not taking good care of myself period.|||i lost a little weight. it made me feel less bloated and it gave me a lot more energy. not having any of those hormones in my body just made me feel better in general. i dont get sick very often anymore either and when i do get sick i get over it a lot sooner. i always would get migraines when i ate meat too..and then they started to go away and i rarely get them anymore..|||yes, it has improved my health greatly.|||vegetarianism has greatly. but you are vegetarian or your not, theres no such thing as a ''strict vegetarian''.
For my history fair i am going to do my project on a famous person that has shown compassion not only for animals but for their environment. I know the Mahatma Gandhi, Mark Twain, Einstein, Socrates were all vegan. But does anyone know anyone that "other" people will see as significant? or for the welfare of the environment?|||Captian Paul Watson would be near or at the top because since 1969 he has been working too save all creatures of the sea (though he really got going in 1977 when he founded Sea Shepherd after leaving Greenpeace because they refused to save whales) Being vegan is nice and good but most of the people you listed really didn't do a whole lot for animals other than not eat them. Paul has been on the front lines risking his life too save all sorts of animals and he is not doing it for any humans but directly for the whales and the sharks and even right down to plankton.
I would also say the ELF which is a nameless faceless organization that takes action for the environment rather than sitting around talking about how bad things are. Some call them terrorists but it should be noted they have not once killed any beings nor are they randomly targeting anyone but they have specific targets in mind that are destroying the planet and killing living creatures.|||You should be careful about using the term "vegan". It's a relatively new term, and may or may not apply to the eating habits of Gandhi, Twain, Einstein, Socrates, et al. Your project will be more accurate if you stick to "vegetarian", which is a more general term. It sounds like an interesting project. Best wishes.|||I don't remember any off the top of my head. But you can pretty much Google what you need. Just type in "Key Figures for Vegetarianism" or something along those lines. I've come across lists of actors and actresses who practice and I'm sure you could find someone in their to talk about. Watch the movie Earthlings. It's very sad. I couldn't get through the whole thing. Joaquin Phoenix does the narration and is an advocate for animal rights and is a vegetarian.|||Abraham Lincoln was a vegetarian
Get the Vegetarian Starter Kit from -
Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vsk/|||Please check out this link you will find hundreds of noteworthy vegetarians http://al.godsdirectcontact.org.tw/vg-vi鈥?/a>|||look into leonardo di vinci
http://ayurveda-foryou.com/health_articl鈥?/a>|||there is no such thing as an unbiased one. you will have to read the info and read between the lines to gather just the facts and disregard the biased philosophies.|||Go to Google and do a search. There are many websites about the two.|||www.answers.com
http://www.wikipedia.org/|||PETA has tons of information about veganism, but I doubt it is unbiased.
and i just got done with my intro. can you give me some feedback on it?
You may ask what the point of being vegan is. If you go to a dictionary, it will tell you that veganism is," a lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose." But, there is more to it then just that. It's about saving the lives of other living, breathing, feeling creatures. Veganism is about love and compassion and enlightenment. It鈥檚 about knowledge and understanding, and to a degree, it鈥檚 about evolving.|||You have a very good intro!!! Total score: 97/92 or 106% Good job!!!!|||You may want to specify which dictionary you used. But other than that, it looks fine.|||That is a very good introduction, and opens up the rest of the paper for an exploration of not just the diet of vegans, but the philosophy, the life style (how, for example, do they find clothing and household goods that don't violate their ethics) and for a further exploration into evolution of the vegan - where and when it began, how it has evolved, where it might be going.
Keep up the good work. .|||Very well written. It sums up what veganism is about and why someone may want to become a vegan. good job!!!|||Hi, your intro is great but I think that if it's a research paper you should give both sides of the coin. You are showing that you are for veganism, but a lot of people may be against it.
Keep working like that!|||i think it sounds very good, good luck with the rest of it|||Try to make it sound less like you yourself are writing to someone.
For example instead of "You may ask.. write Many people wonder. The definition of veganism in Webster's dictionary is....
instead of But, there is more... write For Vegans themselves it means much more. To them it is about love...
Try to sound a bit objective, and not too persuasive|||wel i just wana remind u to emphasive on the diference between veganism and fruterian and vegeterranian cuz normal poepl would wanna knoe that|||-The first sentence needs some work. It sounds awkward. Don't end it with "is."
-"But, there is more to it then just that."/ "Still, it is more than that." (It needs to be revised).
-"knowledge and understanding" repeats "enlightenment" (What about this: "Veganism is about love and compassion, knowledge and understanding.")
-You have an argument, but the "to a degree" makes it sound wishy-washy.
It's a good start. Just clarify more, and be bold. Good luck.|||It's a good intro but I hope that in the rest of your paper you will include some pros AND cons of veganism, since having everyone's point of view in a paper is always a good technique.|||i think it sounds great also :)
really make sure you have smooth transition from the intro to the body. After you finish the body, make sure your intro still makes sense with what you wrote. Often as people write their ideas/focus may shift a little and can cause the intro to not make sense, so be careful of that.
I take meds that require A LOT of protein and I cant stand animal cruellity to poor animals, that cant speak for themselves. So i want to be a vegan but I dont know how too properly and I cant afford (in my family) to buy both soy and regular milk. My siblings wont go veggie and so its just me...what do I do?|||Do you have a source of income and can you help the family afford soy milk? The Whole Foods near me has a store brand that's fairly inexpensive, and their store brand tofu is also quite inexpensive. The soy milk comes in tetra packs and will last several months on the shelf or until you open it.
What do you mean "a LOT of protein"? More than the average person, who only needs .3 to .5 grams of protein per pound of body weight? Most vegans get twice what they need anyway.
Clif Bar has a line called Builder's Bars, which are very high protein. I've seen them at Target and Bed Bath and Beyond, as well as Whole Foods. The packaging states that it has about 20 grams of protein. Luna Bars are also good sources of protein (my S'mores bar has 180 calories and 10 grams of protein). Except for the Mojo line, which has honey, all the varieties of Clif Bar (including Luna Bar, Nectar, Builders) are vegan. If you can have one of these a day, would that help?
Nuts are a good source of protein, but they are high in fat, so do take that into consideration.
Beans are an excellent source of protein and fiber. You don't need to mix beans and rice at the same meal, as the protein combining theory has been shown to be a myth. You can use crumbled tempeh or TVP (textured vegetable protein) to make chili.
Check out www.vrg.org for more information on what foods are good for protein.
And if you can't go vegan, would you go vegetarian and consume as little milk and eggs as you can and then go vegan when you're living independenly?
Good luck.|||your healths more important.|||eat lots of nuts. also if you dont mind, you could eat eggs. also beans are a good source of protien.
good luck!|||You will need to take supplements if you can't get enough protein in your diet by eating. Try making soy protein smoothies and eating a lot of beans, nuts, and of course, tofu.|||Baby steps! Don't cut out all of your animal products all at once, or your body will revolt.
Don't worry so much about "committing" to veganism. You can try it, and if you start to get sick, you can always go back to eating animal products again.
Would your siblings consider buying organic/free-range animal products? That way they're still getting the milk and meat, but the cruelty level is much lower.
Remember, it's not all or nothing, black and white. Every little thing that you do for the cause helps!|||Lots of protien in beans and nuts. Sometimes grocery stores have dietitians (Hy-Vee stores do); perhaps you can see if your local grocery store chain does and ask them about protien.
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I've raised beef cattle, and frankly, they are not treated cruelly, even when they are taken to the packing plant. Frankly, most plants are more intelligent than cows, IMHO.
When you look at animals, preditors have their eyes on the front of of their head, so they can triangulate and estimate the distance to their target. Prey, on the other hand, have their eyes on the sides of their heads, so that they can scan for preditors better. Cows, goats, sheep, all have eyes on the sides of their heads. Cats (lions, etc.), dogs, humans, etc. have their eyes on the front of their heads. Pigs, BTW, are preditors and have their eyes on the front of their head (think of their nearest relative, the wild boar).
Animals with the eyes on the side of the head were intended by God to be eaten by the preditors (us included). That's my $.02 worth.
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Now don't get me wrong. If not eating meat makes you feel better, more power to you. I just think a lot of people go into vegitarianism based on feelings rather than facts.|||Mind if I just bombard you with some links? Heh.
Two things that might be helpful to specifiy:
How much is a LOT of protein? and
Are you already vegetarian?
I'm sorry if you are, but, if you're jumping straight to veganism... wait ;D Start by cutting out the meat if you haven't already. Remember, every little bit helps, right? It'd be better to consume some dairy rather than as much as you would normally, (and staying healthy) - it isn't all or nothing. Be proud that you're even thinking of taking the step in our meat-obsessed nation.
Know that a) most people get more protein than they need anyway(which is why I ask just how much extra you need).
and b) there are plenty of sources you may not have realized! While animal protein may be the most easy to access, it isn't the only source, and it isn't all that healthy really...
The links provide some interesting facts about protein and how to get it, just some basic FAQs|||Eh, I'm personally a meat eater. However, here's some tips.
1 Cup of Oatmeal has 6 grams of protein. 1 Bagel has 9, 1 cup of Soymilk has 7, 1 cup of cooked brown rice has 5, 1 cup cooked broccoli has 4, only 2 Tablespoons of Peanut Butter has 8 grams of protein. Lentils are a vegetable commonly available at stores, 1 cup of cooked Lentils has 18 grams of protein. Here's a couple sites.
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm鈥?/a>
http://nutrition.about.com/od/askyournut鈥?/a>
You're afraid because you don't know how to do it. Knowledge is your weapon, now pick up your sword! >.>|||Meals that include rice & beans provide you with "complete protein" like you get from meat. Rice is cheap and so are tinned beans (chick peas, kidney beans, cannelini beans etc). You could also get protein from lentil dishes (soups, dal, lentil patties).
My problem is not that I can't afford soy milk, but that I absolutely hate it. I just gave up milk altogether - black tea isn't so bad! I am moving onto herbal stuf now. If you are worried about cereal, you can have it with OJ or have toast with peanut butter instead! (Peanut butter is stacked with protein.)
Tofu is another cheap protein option but it's useless to you unless you a) like it and b) know how to cook it well!
Nuts are also a good source of protein but can cost a bit more at the supermarket. You could also up your intake of seeds - such as sesame! These are also packed with calcium. I throw a handful in most of my salads and stir fries.
The possibilities are endless... don't let expense or a disease get you down. You can do it on a low budget, believe me!|||first off, soy milk does not give you any appreciable amount of protein (and neither does cows milk)
If you want a good protein source, and you have a high protein need, you could consider getting a soy protein shake mix (such as my personal favorite Super Green Pro 96 Soy Protein, which has 30 grams of protein per serving)
This product is not so expensive, really -- it tends to be sold for around $25 - $28 for a 2lb can which will give you @30 servings.
Good luck|||First get a life. and life is about moderation. not limitation.|||Some good vegan protein sources are: almonds, black beans, cashews, fake meats, garbanzo beans (chickpeas), kidney beans, lentils, lima beans, peanut butter, pinto beans, seitan, soybeans, sunflower seeds, textured vegetable protein (TVP), and tofu. Also, Cliff Bars and Luna Bars are vegan.
For cheap vegan food ideas, see this list:
http://www.tryveg.com/cfi/toc/?v=07budge鈥?/a>
Hope this helps!|||Millions of people are vegetarians for different reasons; they are not malnutritioned. If you know how to get your meals planned out and always eat well-balanced meals, you will be fine. Have you talked it over with your parents or the member/members who handle the cooking in the house about your desire to become a vegetarian? Soy products are not expensive; on the contrary, they are cheap in comparison with diary products. You can make your own soy milk at home; it's not difficult and it tastes better than the commercial ones.
You don't have to let your siblings be like you or eat like you. Go to the library and get books on Vegetarian Cooking and discuss the alternatives with the person in charge of grocery shopping and cooking in your house. It's hard if you don't do your own cooking. You will have to let the rest of the family to agree on what they will accommodate; with good recipes, they may want to try a few different dishes each day and don鈥檛 have to be a complete vegetarian like you want to be.|||Soy is not a requirement to be vegan.
Either you want to do it and you figure out how, or you decide you can't and you don't.
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/09鈥?/a>|||Beans are a great source of protein, as are nuts and sprouts. Also, my mom had a similar issue and needed protein for medical issues after surgery, and her doctor recommended this stuff called Unjury. You can mix it into soymilk, ricemilk, or whatever non-dairy milk you choose. Well, you can actually mix it into almost anything because they have plain as well as chocolate and vanilla, and probably more flavors also. And, it's not too expensive :)
Good luck!
I'm converting to Raw veganism and i have some questions
First, is it alright for me to take my medicine...I mean I don't know whats in it but I don't think I should stop taking it because I have some serious health problems
second, is tofu alright to eat?
Third are things like olive oil and balsamic vinegar and spices alright to eat?
thanks so much guys!|||i would not stop taking the medicine. you will see some health benefits from going raw, and perhaps after a while you might check with your doctor about cutting down, but i don't think it's a good idea to just stop taking them.
since raw foodism is all about cleansing the body, soy products such as tofu are avoided because they form mucus in the body. i think tofu is fine to eat in small amounts while you are transitioning, probably for evening meals, but the best thing is to avoid it.
olive oil is great! use extra-virgin, and look for cold-pressed oils. vinegar and spices are your friends as well.
enjoy!|||Woodpecker and Molly are right! I am a Raw Vegan for a month now and read a lot of books to help me get started.
I love to use Cold-pressed Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Celtic Sea Salt, and Apple cider vinegar! I use a lot of spies, like rosemary, curry, Cayenne, etc. Can't live without the spies!
If you want to get over your sickness, I suggest eating ONLY ORGANIC fruits and vegetables. Go slow, because detoxifying your body will be hard on you.
After eating raw for awhile, i am sure your doctor will lower your medicine dosage, and eventually end it!
A message board I go to, a woman has curred herself of cancer by going raw.|||Tofu is not a raw food. The pre-tofu mixture is boiled for a period of time before the coagulant is added and the tofu is pressed. Even if you don't fry it, you're still eating a cooked food. (Just for clarification).|||It's like a walk through Hell. I would have killed a man for some fries and a pint of soy dream after two weeks of that.|||I think you mean a raw-plant-based diet. Veganism has nothing to do with not cooking your food.
I'm sorry Chris, but someone misinformed you. Eating a plant-based diet is not the same thing as being vegan. If you eat a "vegan" diet for health reasons, you are not vegan. If you do because you want to be different, you are not vegan. If you you do it because you believe that this planet and all of its denizens ARE NOT the property of mankind and you abhor the suffering of innocent beings, than you ARE vegan.
Going around telling people that you are vegan and you don't eat food that is cooked sends the wrong message about our beliefs. If you are really vegan that is great. Just make sure you describe yourself as vegan, not "raw vegan" and don't talk about any of it to any one UNLESS they like you and are actually interested.
Thanks, smart *ss|||everybody has really good points! i am wanting to go raw myself, although i would read ingredients in your medication. If they are capsules they may contain a milk based lactose product for binding, it is very common. so you could just undo the capsule and just get the medicine out of it and throw the capsule away. Deffinantly talk to your doctor and keep him informed on what you are doing and make sure he knows how serious you are about it so he can monitor you and not give you animal products in your meds! good luck and i hope this gets you well, raw diets can do wonders!|||http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/ for a great page to help you get started. Also, I would recommend Michelle Cooks book on detox. It has alot of great suggestions. Tofu is allright to eat, just don't fry it up. Apple cider vinegar is what you will want to shoot for.
Also, any kind of advice or websites on veganism would be appreciated. Thanks a lot! :)|||You'll need to replace all the protein (and fat) that you won't be getting from meat. Also, lack of B-12 (and other vitamins) can be an issue. Check out the link below for more information about the potential pitfalls of veganism.
The good news is that our guts are a compost heap that runs on whatever we give 'em. Look at how varied people's diets are around the world (or even around the neighborhood) - all meat, no meat, only raw food, only cooked food - people successfully live on all these nutritional regimes. Eat what you like, listen to your body, and tell everybody to shut the hell up if they don't like your diet.|||There are alot of problems that might come up. Be sure to get lots of Vitamin's, Calcium, and Specific nutrients. If your a girl, you should be careful if your going to have a child. It's a very healthy way to live, as long as you do it right.|||Being vegan is a lot harder than you know. You will need a source of non-allergenic protein. Soy is allergenic. You will need to take supplemental vitamins and especially minerals as the plants you are going to eat do not contain sufficient quantities of either. You need a source of fats. Plants fats help, but they do not contain DHA for proper brain function. If you do these things you may have a pleasant experience. One more thing, you will need to do a lot more exercise as you will need to burn off all of the extra calories from all of the plant sugar you are going to be eating. I know a lot of fat vegans.|||If one cares about his/her health, then s/he is going to be diligent about getting all necessary nutrients. I'm vegan, my husband is an omnivore. When I was blessed with my pregnancy, I had a healthy 170 pounds on my six foot frame. Part of that, though, is that I had just gotten lazy and no longer worked out. There was not much room in the house in which we lived for yoga and the weather got cold for walking. It is even more unfortunate that I did not work out during my pregnancy either. Partially because finances prevented me from buying new shoes. Now, in my ninth month (I expect to have this baby this week), I'm only 35 pounds heavier. After the baby is born, though, I will join the gym. Even though it will be less than $10, I will still have to pay it up front and I hate wasting money, so that will be my motivation. Also, I can pick up my yoga at home and I don't have to worry about the baby. (Like if my husband can be home for a couple of hours without taking from his day, or if my MIL can come, etc.)
Yes, there are fat, unhealthy veg*ns. There are also fat, unhealthy meat eaters. It's all a matter of choice. While my husband still eats meat, he just doesn't do so in large quantities, usually. He still eats meat when we go out, but not shred of it would be found in our house. Because he is concerned about his health, and wants us to eat dinners together again, he's been doing more meatless, meals and has been trying the veggie "meats".
Anyway, if you're uncertain about where to get a vitamin or something in your diet, do a search for, say, "vegan calcium sources" and you'll usually get some good information.
Also, I just found the title and author of this book, "Everyday Vegan," by Dreena Burton. The person who reccommended it from another thread I answered said it included information and tips on being a healthy vegan from infancy to adulthood. We're going to let our child(ren) choose what they want to eat (junk food will not be common in my home, though I will learn how to do more good vegan baked goods, like the chocolate cake that gets compliments whenever I take it to a potluck). One of the reasons my husband doesn't eat much meat, dairy and eggs anymore is that he learned from where conventional meat comes and it sunk in this time. (The information came from his meat and processed food eating father who has had and has health problems. He heard it on an overnight radio show, Coast to Coast) I personally don't think I could ever eat meat again, regardless of the source. However, if my family wants to eat it, I will be very careful of researching its source. I could do cheese and eggs if I had to, but that's it. Again, if dairy and eggs are bought, we will be careful of its source.
Anyway, I hope this has been of some help.|||Hmmm...
Let's arbitrarily exclude half the potential nutrient sources from our diet. Good idea.
I'm a little confused over this one. It's not produced by the bee (like milk), it's manufactured by the bee from tree syrup? Is that right?|||M is perfectly correct. It's more of an opinion. Bees throw up something that takes pollen to make and we call it honey. Obviously it goes through some process to make it edible/ tasty, but.. yeah. Bee vomit. All an opinion.|||Nope.
The simplest reason why honey isn't vegan is by definition. The term vegan was coined by Donald Watson in 1944 and was defined as follows:
Veganism is a way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence for life. It applies to the practice of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals (Stepaniak).
That's just a small bit of info, the link below provides more.|||No. Bees are killed in the process of gathering honey..
In the US, 10 to 20 percent of colonies are lost over the winter. It is partly by accident and partly on purpose. Some beekeepers kill off their hives before winter. This practice can make economic sense. Unfortunately, it is not the small backyard beekeeper, but rather the large, factory bee farmer, so a lot of bees are killed even if most beekeepers don't use the practice. Also, in the process of checking up on the hive and taking the honey, some bees get squashed by the frames or stepped on.
Queen bees can live for as long as five years but most commercial beekeepers replace them every two year (and often yearly). "Replace" is a euphemism for killing the old queen. Backyard beekeepers also regularly kill their queens.|||Sort of a matter of opinion. Some think it's derived from animals, therefore not ok; some think it's not of the animal's body, therefore ok. Decide for yourself, don't worry what other people think. It's nobody's choice but yours what you eat.
It's basically bee vomit, if that helps. Does not harm the bee in any way, shape or form. Nor, for the record, does being milked hurt the cow or laying eggs hurt the chicken -but I digress. If you want to eat honey, go for it. If not, try agave nectar as a substitute.|||Some consider it an animal product, some don't.
I prefer Agave Nectar, although local honey can help cure most yearly allergies to local flowers.
I consider it a product of animals. It's more humane then milk and eggs, but not by much. It is (and I admit) a food I choose to splurge on if I know the beekeeper in which it came from, and how they handled the bees.|||Yes, it IS produced by the bee.
Bees make honey, therefore, if you decide to adopt a vegan philosophy, you can never eat honey again. It's an animal product, and vegans touch nothing that came from an animal.|||No, vegans aren't supposed to eat honey. It's produced by bees therefore is an animal product|||Animal product is food that is made from animals and bees make honey. Plus, eating honey is stealing from bees.|||No u cannot eat honey|||My Dad raises bees. It's all natural. Bee's make honey by getting pollen from plants. So it's all natural.:) Well,if you get it naturally. So,it's vegan.:)|||Simplest solution, don't adopt a vegan outlook on life.
For those who don't know:
Vegetarians don't eat meat or fish, and often also don't eat products like gelatin. They may eat eggs/milk/cheese.
Vegans eliminate all animal products: no meat, fish, cheese, eggs, or milk. And more broadly they don't buy products made of leather etc.|||We are HEROES.|||I'm all for it, especially if they do it out of their choice.
I'm a meat eater though.|||I'm not really sure whats wrong with them that they don't enjoy meat.|||LLYYKKEREEEEE OOMMGZZZZ IIMMM ONNEE THATTSSSSS WHYYY IIIMM SKINNYYYY ANDD DROPPPP DDEADDDDD GOORRGEOUUSSSSS LYYKEEEE OOMMGZZZZZ|||Where's the beef?|||Something tells me I dont belong here ..........|||I am vegetarian myself, I don't eat meat, fish, poultry or any food with animal products sourced in them such as marshmallows, jelly sweets, skittles, cheese etc. (Cheese has renent in by the way - comes from the stomach of a dead cow).
I have nothing against those who are vegetarian or vegan, if anything it's healthier, you can buy meat substitutes which are healthier and taste exactly the same, at costs much less than real meat etc.
I am vegetarian due to my religion however as I converted to Buddhism 2 years ago and have been a vegetarian for little over 2 years now.|||i strongly approve of vegetarianism.. but veganism is a little out there. i dont see any harm in drinking milk or eating cheese.|||veganism is a dumb idea in my opinion
vegetarianism is fine with me|||Everyone has a choice if they choose to be a vegetarian/vegans its up to them. I will not eat anything with a face. ,!|||It's a personal choice that I don't have a problem with. You are wasting your time trying to make me feel guilty about eating meat. (not you literally, but the ones that try that)|||I'm cool with it and i used to be a vegetarian so i totally respect people who are|||I wish I could be a vegetarian. I'm a major animal lover and I think the way they are raised to be killed is wrong, but meat just tastes too good...I can't do it|||I do not care what people eat as long as they do things for the right reasons, make it your choice. Do not be a vegan because other "cool" people are doing it. I myself eat meat because I feel we are meant to, that is my choice. The only thing that bugs me about some vegans/vegetarians is when they get preachy and uppity.
also does trader joes have good vegan options?|||EATING VEGAN In starting the transition to a vegan diet, there are a few different strategies. Some people shift into a vegan diet slowly, starting with vegan 'analogues'鈥?plant-based foods whose taste resembles animal products. Others simply take out the animal products from their diet and replace them with plant foods with which they're already familiar. Still others concentrate on experimenting with entirely new vegan foods, often from international cuisines. Thankfully, there is no shortage of vegan foods to help make the transition. In fact, most of the food we eat is vegan, without us knowing it!
http://www.vegansociety.com
I personally found a big difference going from vegetarian to vegan, it was surprising what foods I could no longer eat!
But on saying that, I soon found certain shops which a huge variety of lovely vegan food!
I think it is easier to do a slow transition, gradually cutting out eggs,milk, cheese.
Make sure you find a store that sells alternatives to dairy products, you may find you will have to cook from fresh a bit more often, but use the vegan websites to find recipes and print them off so you have them handy.
Also make sure you are getting B12, either through supplements or its in soya milk and soya spread.
good luck with your transfer! :)|||trader joe's and whole foods have a nice selection of vegan options. check out happycow.net to see if there are any vegetarian/vegan restuarants in your area (lots of vegetarian places cater to vegan choices also). i prefer the vanilla soymilk to the plain, and a lot of the soy yogurts and ice creams (especially soy delicious) are good. i never became a big fan of the soy/rice cheese, but it is very good on a vegan boca burger or shredded on a salad - but i found it hard to make a pizza or something like that with it. if you enjoy smoothies, silken tofu with be your new best friend. here is a PETA page with a bunch of vegan foods - http://www.peta.org/accidentallyVegan/
good luck!!!|||Trader Joe's has good vegan options, yes, but rarely labels them as vegan.
For the transition: start slow. Make sure you really want it.
First, as a vegan, you have to be a lot more diligent. Knowing if a thing contains meat is fairly simple, but animal byproducts can be everywhere. Unless something is explicity labeled as vegan, read ingredients before purchase.
Second, now you can't get protein from eggs and dairy, so you really need to find alternatives. Soymilk and tofu tend to be popular. Have lots of cashews, almonds, peanuts, etc. (Peanuts aren't actually nuts, but they have protein anyway.)|||Well for the trader Joe's thing I'm not quite sure, but I can say that I'm in the same boat as you. :) But for the help I would suggest going to a nutritionist cause a nutritionist would definitely tell you what all you need in order of becoming vegan. You could also check out libraries and other sources they will have vegan cook books and what not.
I hope I helped. Well in the overall good luck!|||I'm not familiar with Trader Joe's... but here's a list of popular vegan non-dairy products and faux meats:
http://www.vegcooking.com/guide-favs.asp
My favorites are:
Earth Balance Natural Buttery Spread
So Delicious Non-Dairy Frozen Dessert
WholeSoy Creamy Cultured Soy Yogurt
Tofutti鈥擝etter Than Cream Cheese
Follow Your Heart鈥擵egan Gourmet Cheese Alternative
Silk Plus Omega-3 DHA Soymilk
Nate鈥檚 Meatless Meatballs
Lightlife鈥擲mart Bacon
Gardenburger Meatless Riblets
Gardenburger Flame Grilled Chik鈥檔
Tofurky Deli Slices
Morningstar Farms Meal Starters Chik鈥檔 Strips
Also, see http://www.tryveg.com/ for lots of vegan food ideas.
Good luck!|||I transfered from vegetarian to vegan 6 months ago
check out this website
www.milksucks.com
it's mainly about your health! check out what gross things milk has!!
www.vegsociety.com is good =)
Go Veggies! good luck!|||I know a good vegan website!http://www.vegansociety.com/html/
Check out delicious dairy free alternatives! I love soya milk on my breakfast cereal in the morning. ^_^|||idk,
but try soymilk (silk) its so good it taste better than real milk!!
try soy yogurts and cheeses <======== very good!|||I am vegan and get most of my vegan alternatives at Trader Joe's. Here are some things you can get there:
-dairy alternative: try the soymilk (recommended), rice milk, or almond milk varieties to see what you like best
-yogurt alternative: try the soy yogurts with fruit (raspberry, strawberry and peach varieties)
-ice cream alternative: try the new mini Trader Joe soy ice cream sandwiches, soy ice cream pints, or Sharon's sorbets (coconut, lemon, passionfruit-- these are soy-free)
-tofu: try the regular tofu, high-protein tofu blocks, or baked tofu (savory, Teriaki, or Thai varieties)-- these go great in stirfrys or in veggie wraps
-mock meats: try the Morningstar grillers vegan (hamburger alternative), soy hot dogs, or new 'chicken-less' vegan strips to add to salads or stirfrys
-sauces: most of the Trader Joe's hummus is vegan (check the label, as a few have dairy), the tahini sauce is vegan (which goes great with steamed veggies and brown rice, or on pita bread wraps), salsa is vegan, and most of the marinara sauces that TJ's have are vegan (just check to make sure they don't have cheese)
-bars: try the Lunabars, or Larabars that TJ's have. I think most of the Clif bars are also vegan (just check the ingredient list to be certain)
-breads: most breads are vegan (though a few types have dairy or eggs). Try the Ezekial bread or the Trader Joe's sprouted grain breads (which are healthy and vegan). Most of the whole wheat tortillas that TJ's carries are vegan too. (Just avoid the Indian naan bread, as I think remember some varieties having dairy and eggs.)
-baked goods: Try the Trader Joe's vegan chocolate chip cookies; they are delicious! (I think they may have walnuts though, so hope you aren't allergic to that)
-chocolate: if you like dark chocolate, try the Trader Joe's organic dark chocolate bar with raisins and pecans. That's nice. Or the semi-sweet pound bars with almonds (or plain) do not contain dairy, and are vegan (though they share equipment with other goods containing dairy, though that may not matter to you).
-cheese: vegan cheese is the only thing I have not yet found at Trader Joe's, though anyone can correct me if I am mistaken. (So I end up going to Whole Foods/Wild Oats to buy vegan parmesan, or Follow Your Heart Vegan Gourmet blocks of cheese in cheddar or mozzerella-- they don't taste good plain, but do taste quite decent when they are melted).
Here are some other general tips to help you make the transition:
-Try to make simple replacements, substituting dairy products for vegan alternatives (such as those listed above).
-Even if things taste a bit strange in the beginning, just remember that people are working on making better and better vegan products, so within a few years the variety of vegan products will continue to grow and even taste better than they do already (though some vegan products are even better tasting than the dairy versions!) So don't get discouraged.
-When eating out, here are some ideas:
-Check your local listings to see if there are any vegan restaurants in your area, as they will have tons of tasty options
-Pizza: just get a veggie pizza with no cheese (or if you make pizza at home then you can just put some veggies and soy pepperoni, and shredded Follow Your Heart vegan mozzerella on the pizza crust-- and it tastes good)
-Mexican: just get vegetarian bean burritos or tacos with no cheese. If you like enchilada sauce, just ask them not to put any cheese in it
-Chinese/Thai- you have tons of options here for getting tofu or vegetable stirfrys (just make sure they don't put any fish sauce in the entrees), if you get soup, make sure it doesn't have eggs or seafood or chicken broth (or see if they can make the broth with water instead)
-Italian- there are plenty of pasta options with marinara or arribiata sauce, just ask them not to put cheese; you can also get salads with no cheese, and ask for oil and vinegar (to avoid dairy/egg-based dressings)
-Middle Eastern/Persian- there are many vegan friendly restaurants here, where you can get falafel wraps with hummus or tahini, or vegetables with rice and hummus
-Indian: there are a variety of bean and vegetable dishes here, just ask them to make sure there is no cream or dairy in the dishes (as they love to put dairy in their foods). Also avoid the naan which often has dairy and eggs, and get wheat 'roti' or 'chappati' instead.
Anyways, hope this helps! Good luck!|||is veganism legal? try a steak and onions first before you decide.
please list what dis-benefits vegans can face. and how those dis-benefits can be resolved or cant.|||The only way to know the pros and cons is to try it and see how it suits your lifestyle.
I would say being a vegetarian is much easier.|||Dis-benefits is not a word.
Benefits- healthiest diet in the world.
Cheaper than dairy and meat diets
does not contribute to pollution like meat and dairy
takes less earth resource.
does not create a world of agony and torture for animals ( we share this place with them)
does not create heart disease and colon cancer- saves on healthcare costs
less energy used in the home to fridgerate and cook your food.
dis-benefits- none.|||a vegan diet is only harmful when the person is irresponsible with his/her diet. a well planned vegan diet is just as healthy as a healthy omnivore or vegetarian diet. the ONLY synthetic substitute you need is b12, and you only need it in VERY small amounts (your body stores it for years) and most cereals are fortified with b12, as are many soy milks, most energy drinks, and nearly all nutritional yeast.|||Benefits: Healthier, saving animals, saving money, knowing you do not eat dead animals, helping global warning, feeling stronger and revived.
Dis-benifits: Not getting B-12 vitamin (you can take a supplement)
That is basically the only disadvantage! Check out this website, its gives a lot of info on vegetarianism! I have been a vegetarian for about 4 months and i love it!|||iron and protein deficiency, stunted growth, anemia
cant be resolved without meat
I mean, do some blood types fare better on veg*nism than others, and if so, why?|||No, I think the Blood Type Diet is a load of poo poo. My mom tried to follow it and didn't lose anything (she's been successful on other diets). According to the theory, she and I should both be eating loads of meat (we're O's). I'm vegan, and my body responds very well to my diet. I lost weight since being vegan and can eat pretty much what I want without gaining weight. I'm healthier than I was when I ate meat and dairy. I think people that don't respond well to veggie diets are those that aren't eating healthily on any diet. Also, I think a lot of people with health problems are attracted to trying veggie diets as a solution to their ailments, so you can't really judge based on that.|||No I dont think blood type wud have an effect on that cuz theyre not really related.
Saying that red meat contains iron and that is important 4 ur haemoglobin in your red blood cells so its possible..........
.... but i still doubt it, as long as you make sure you take a multivitamin especially if vegan|||I'm a type A and I'm supposedly better off on a vegetarian diet. I've been vegan for years and apart from a severe case of b12 deficiency (I wasn't eating fortified foods) I have done pretty well. My cholestrol and blood pressure are excellent and I don't even remember the last time I was sick with a viral/bacterial infection. It must have been years ago.
All of my family is type A and we are all vegans. Maybe they were on to something. I have no idea.|||don't think so
Fruitarianism is the only lifestyle possible for the truly moral person. We eat only fruit and seeds that have fallen naturally from the plant. No sap-stained hands for us fruitarians|||No, you need to read Linda Goodman's Sun Signs and become a BREATHTARIAN. That's the only conscientious thing to do.|||LOL
Linda Goodman was shortlived, too. She was working toward it.. Report Abuse
|||Well we deadleafarians just one-upped you fruitarians, because you prevent further plants from growing by consuming the seeds. We just eat dead leaves.|||Eating honey and dairy products also kills nothing (except for maybe a few microorganisms). Oddly enough, Vegans are strictly against both honey and milk/dairy. They want to see innocent plants die.|||I'm thinking of switching to just eating mud and getting my nutrients like plants do. It's much more efficient. Did you know that 70% of all dirt in the USA is used for growing plants? Wasteful.|||So you eat the embryos of plants? I hope you poop out in nature, then, otherwise you're basically aborting them.|||OMG thatz harsh and I am a vegetarian.|||O_o|||Yes.|||Oh yeah, well I don't eat at all.
I ask this from a philosophical perspective. When I went vegetarian I had this feeling inside, I felt it was the right thing to do. It gave me such a great feeling to go veg. It feels right for my body.
How has veganism affected your life?
What does it mean to you?
Do you feel a sense of belonging?
Thanks, all answers will be read & appreciated.
Scottie x|||Like you, my body loves vegan fuel. I've never felt so good physically or mentally as I have since I went vegan. Then, there's this remarkable feeling of being "clean on the inside" that's hard to explain, but I'm guessing you understand what I mean. I lost a bunch of weight, too, which was much needed. Those things alone are enough to make me want to be vegan for life, but of course, that's not the whole story.
I tend to get pretty bothered by things going on in the world. Sometimes I think I should ban myself from reading/watching the news, lol. What's so troubling, often, is that it feels like there's nothing I can really do as an individual to improve things. Veganism changed that. I find peace and happiness in the knowledge that I AM doing something to help, and that my efforts do make a difference to suffering animals and a damaged environment -- maybe even to meat-industry workers and hungry people, too. Even if the difference is so small as to almost go unnoticed, at least I know I'm doing my part not to make things worse.
In "The Art of Happiness", the Dalai Lama talks about thinking about the suffering of others as a way to develop more compassion. Before I went vegan, I found that to be paradoxical. How could thinking about suffering make anyone feel better? But what started with allowing myself to be affected by a few ugly factory farming videos, has changed into a greater overall sensitivity to suffering, animal and human alike. I feel better about myself when I'm being compassionate, even if it does involve unhappy knowledge. I didn't really have this ability before I went vegan. I'm still fairly cool and logical as I have always been, but it's been tempered now. I feel good about that.
I wouldn't say I have a sense of belonging as much as it is a sense of interconnectedness. We're all denizens of Earth, and we rely on one another. There's almost nothing you can do or buy that didn't involve other people or animals in some form. I pay much more attention to where things come from, how they were made, what's in them, how it got here and so on than ever before. I didn't used to think about things this way.|||I would assume that it makes you feel like the "food police" and like a kook who has bought into a load of rubish. lol
I don't dislike vegans but some of your lot are like a cult.
Look at it this way if you and your mates like to eat a nut loaf then hey have at it.
If I on the other hand would like to have a nice steak then please let me be as well ok?
If I feel like a steak and a glass of shiraz is right for me then you leave me alone. If you think a nut loaf and some soy milk is good for you then hey I won't bother you either ok?|||For me it means that I'm doing what I can to minimise my personal contribution to animal suffering and exploitation.
And that's all it means really; it's only one part of my life, it doesn't define me in some way. If someone asked me to describe myself and list my beliefs and convictions, vegan and veganism wouldn't be among the first things that came to mind.|||How has veganism affected your life?
It has really opened my eyes to the consequences that every single one of our actions has on the rest of the world. I never questioned a simple glass of milk before, but now I realize how much pain, suffering and environmental damage came as a result of that glass.
What does it mean to you?
I guess my view sort of differs from lo_mcg regarding identity. Veganism has become a deep part of my personal identity now. It is no longer a diet or lifestyle choice, it is part of my moral and ethical code. One that I hope to continue for the rest of my life.
Do you feel a sense of belonging?
I do feel a sense of belonging. But I feel sometimes like being vegan isn't enough. I wish I could drop real life work & uni and travel the world to help animal rights groups. Like joining the anti whaling campagn, stopping the brutal seal hunts, and saving wild animals. But it all feels like a bit of a dream... while i'm sitting here typing it.|||Well I'm a vegetarian, but my best friends vegan. And YES, it has a GREAT feeling, it feels good to be healthy and helping animals. I've become more aware of what we really eat and never knew how amazing being vegetarian is. Veganism is a strict lifestyle that one wishes to possess and to believe that using any animal related products or foods is inhumane. Which is VERY true. :]|||1. Fanaticism
2. Irritated me at PETA
3 See#1
4 I belong to the human race.|||isnt vegan when you dont eat/use any products made from animals milk/wear furs n leather/
please include your religious beliefs.|||It is a valid way to steward creation; it is not necessary as worship or for things like salvation - but conscious effort to care for the tabernacle of our bodies and to care for God creation is good.|||Why must we include our religious beliefs? (sigh)
I'm a Christian who is allowed to eat any foods that are here on the earth. Per the N.T.
I could never be a vegetarian and veganism is even more of an extreme.
God gave us meat to eat. It is the best source of protein, so why would I forsake eating meat to live on plants alone?|||Two points I sometimes ponder. Does not eating meat and/or dairy products result in a deficiency in a healthy diet? And do vegetarians and vegans use fur coats, etc.?|||Fine with me, but I like meat. Atheist.|||Atheist: For ever animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.
I feel confident in myself to become vegan now. But I have a problem. I wear contacts in my eyes because I have messed up eyes. Should I still wear contacts after I turn vegan?
Also with a vegan diet, what vegitables and other products should I be consuming for me to get all of the nutrition I need? Is rye bread vegan?|||To go to wearing glasses or not is a personal choice that really only you can make. But if your going to make that kind of jump because the contacts are plastic based - you are also going to have to make sure that the frames are metal and the lenses are not plastic but glass. Again - a personal choice on your part.
The best diet is a diet that is varied and has variety within it. Eating the same things over and over is not only boring - you also are more than likely not getting a full variety of the vitamins that you need for your body.
I don't know about the rye bread where you live - but where I buy it would be considered to be vegan. Maybe it depends on the bakery I guess? If you are concerned about it - ask. Or just read the label if it is in a store where it is pre packaged?
EDIT:
I have actually met some people from India that really are that strict - and they would never consider wearing contacts if they are the plastic type.
They won't wear the plastic/fake leather look shoes either because plastic is based upon fossil fuel which is indeed an animal product.
The ONLY things that they can't avoid - are the plastic that is found within something like a car for example. Even on the car thing - the couple that I met even had the seat covers replaced with totally cloth ones.
But since glasses and shoes can indeed be bought that are not based upon a product that is fossil fuel based (thus animal based) - something that many that are vegan - evidently not within the western world - are making concessions that clearly many within the western world will/do not make - or maybe they haven't really thought it all out?? Who knows. But there are some that are indeed that strict.
Again - the choice is an individual one.|||Unless there are animal derivitaves in your contact lenses or the production of your contact lenses, than they are acceptable for a vegan.
If you are feeling bad about it because they are a luxury, that has nothing to do with veganism but more to do with minimalism.
Do what you are most comfortable doing, and certainly look into the products and manufacturing of your contact lenses... but chances are (and in my experience), they are vegan.
:) Hope this helps :)|||I still weat contacts because (a) I'm not sure what wouldn't be vegan about them and (b) you can only do what you can do.
Back in the day when you had to use those little enzyme tablets, there was a warning label on the box for people who were allergic to pork. I got papaya-based enzymes from my optometrist to use instead. The multi-purpose solutions and disposable contacts eliminated the need to enzyme clean and have no pork warnings on the box.
Your nutritional question is a whole other discussion. For general knowledge I recommend "Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina, both registered dietitians. As for the rye bread, read the ingredients.|||the above poster mentioned that you can't avoid plastics. that is so completely true! you're doing your best by becoming vegan in the first place, it would be virtually impossible to eliminate plastic from your life. you wouldn't have a car, you couldn't use your appliances, etc.etc.
you should definitely consume a wide variety of veggies AND fruit. usually the more vivid the color, the more they're packed with vitamins. it's not a hundred percent true, but it's a very good rule of thumb. you should eat breads and pasta's that are whole grain if possible. the hardest vitamin for vegan's to get is B12. make sure you're taking a multi-vitamin or find recipes that use nutritional yeast (makes an awesome vegan mac and 'cheese').|||You becoming a vegan has nothing to do with your contact lens.
Unless you are becoming an extreme environmentalist, then don't worry about that. Right now you are trying to take care of your body. Contacts won't harm you if you keep them clean.
Added: If you are not shopping at a health food store, make sure you read the ingredients to the products you eat. Vegans don't eat anything from an animal, so you need to make sure the products you buy don't have milk and egg in them.|||All of the companies that make contact lenses test their products on animals. However, there are two companies (Clear Conscience and Lobob Laboratories) that don't test their contact lens solutions on animals.
It's impossible to be 100% cruelty-free, even on a vegan diet. I would try to buy one of the cruelty-free contact lens solutions that are available and not worry about your contacts. (You could also e-mail the company that makes your contacts and ask them to stop testing on animals. Companies pay attention to feedback from their customers.)
To get the nutrition you need, eat a variety of fruits, vegetables, beans, nuts, and grains. Here are some vegetarian foods that are high in protein, iron, and calcium:
http://www.tryveg.com/cfi/toc/?v=08sourc鈥?/a>
I looked at some rye bread recipes online and the ingredients were vegan, but check the label to make sure.
Good luck!|||You can only do so much. I'm not sure what wouldn't be vegan with contacts. What exactly are they made from? If it's plastic you're worried about, don't. Plastic is everywhere and is unavoidable. Look at your comp. Isn't the keyboard, mouse and monitor frame made of plastic?
Sadie---you're wrong about the contacts. It is important. Vegans don't use any products derived from animals, unless it's unavoidable. It's got nothing to do with being an extreme environmentalist. It's got to do with being vegan.
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/about_u鈥?/a>|||why cant you wear contacts? im confused do they have some sort of meat or milk product in them? i dnt think so.|||hahaha.
what do contacts and not eating any sort of animal products have to do with eachother?!
and duh you wear them on your eyes.
you're not gonna stick em up your a**.
Thursday, February 9, 2012
One of the Elders after church told me that not eating all of the bounty god gave us, including animals may be anti-Christian, this has given me great pain as I have been a vegetarian since 8. Can someone help clear this up ?|||There is nothing in the Bible that says you must eat meat. In fact, before the flood, mankind only ate vegetables. So, if anything, one could make a stronger case for being more vegan/veggy vs. omnivorous.
However, after the flood, God gave man the meat of the animals to eat as well. However, sometime after that, the nation of Israel was established and they were given a dietary law. While it did include meat, the standards were so high, that there weren't too many meats they would eat. Their diets were mostly vegetables, bread, etc.
When Christ came, He basically established a rule that says that one can eat of anything on the earth because God made it all for man anyway. So, eating something that doesn't comply with the dietary laws of the Jews was made ok.
The bottom line is that there's nothing in the Bible to say that you must eat meat. There's nothing that say you can't eat something either. However, keep in mind that your body is the temple of God and that you must take care of it. While there are some nutrients that you'll get more easily from meat than from non-meats, not eating meat doesn't mean that you're unable to take care of your body.
Chances are, this is just a conviction of the one elder in your church. While he should be respected, that doesn't make him right in everything he says. If he's telling you that "XYZ" or else you might not be a good Christian, tell him to point you to the scripture and verse. Afterwords, write it down and read it for yourself in context. Spend about a week or two studying everything you can about the given verse(s). Then, if you find that he's wrong, ask him to explain himself.
It's fine to have convictions, are we are to share them with other Christians. However, there is a difference between sharing your convictions with another person and using your position in the church to pressure people into living a specific way. I honestly don't want to be vegetarian/vegan. I personally think it's silly. But, if someone wants to eat this way, it's only right for a fellow Christian to respect it. God doesn't have a definitive standard for us regarding food. Really, about the only thing a Christian is expected to do with their food is to thank God for it and to ensure that they are giving of their food to others. (i.e. have people over for dinner, take people out to dinner, being generous with your food.) This is the example Christ gave us.
God did give us all the animals to eat; however, if you don't eat something out of conviction or because it's not your custom, then that's fine. However, also make sure that your conviction isn't used to burden another.
***e-mail me if you'd like more information or you have other questions regarding this subject or others. ***|||If God gave you freewill then he's not going to care that you don't eat the animals. It never says "God will send you to hell because you didn't eat the deer." You can appreciate his bounty in more ways than devouring them. You're respecting his creations by letting them live and be. As long as you don't condemn others for eating animals and they don't condemn you.
You appreciate their beauty, while others like the taste.|||Becoming a vegetarian—or remaining one—is strictly a matter for individual decision. Because of health, economics, ecology, or compassion for animals, a person may choose to follow a vegetarian regimen. But he must recognize it as only one way of eating. He should not criticize those who choose to eat meat, just as one who eats meat should not condemn a vegetarian. Eating meat or refraining from it does not make one a better person. (Romans 14:1-17) Neither should one’s diet become the prime concern in his life. “Man must live,” Jesus said, “not on bread alone, but on every utterance coming forth through Jehovah’s mouth.”—Matthew 4:4.|||First of all the worst thing you can do is listen to a pastor. They teach their tradition and not what the bible says. It is not against God to be a vegetarian. I have never seen a verse that says it is. In fact, when God created the world originally there was meant to be not death at all. Death is the penalty for sin. So even the animals wouldn't have died, therefore there would have been no eating meat.
Genesis 1:30- And to every beast of he earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given ever green herb for meat: and it was so.
Here it says that every living thing was given green herb to eat. There was not to be killing. When Adam and Eve died the punishment for sin was death. Therefore God immediately made coats of skin (Genesis 2:21) from animal to cover them up (for a picture of salvation from the blood of the sacrifice of Jesus) so killing animals was then allowed.
It is not against God not to eat animals but it isn't bad to eat animals.
Lesson here, dont listen to pastors. They teach from their own ideas and not the bible. Always ask for verses for what they are teaching and make sure it fits the WHOLE bible. God bless you :)|||Well if you looked at it from the old testament in which virtually ALL the animals were unclean - all the good ones at least - then yes, it is supported. However the New Testament gives dominion of all animals on earth to Man, so...in a sense yes and in a sense no.|||short answer: nope.
man was given all animals to eat right after the flood.
all flesh except its blood. that contains the soul, and it must be given back to god.
sacrifices were meat, beef and lamb. it was to be made to smoke to give a
restful order.
conclusion: God loves a barbeque !
now. go enjoy a 1/4 pound burger or a fish. jesus ate them, so you can too.
or lamb.
gramps|||It isn't specifically mentioned. But we are free to eat what we wish. The Bible does state that. Freedom is the key here. There is nothing that we are required to eat.|||Yes. Daniel and his friends were vegetarians.
But no diet is favoured over any other by the Bible.|||I know of no Biblical mandate commanding you to eat meat. You are not sinning by refusing meat or animal products.|||NO. Just the Opposite.
It'll be interesting to see if there's any correlation between philosophies.|||I'm a vegan feminist.
In my experience, people who identify with one progressive philosophy are more likely to identify with others.|||Vegetarians are generally a bit healthier and have lower cholesterol and lower body fat. I would follow that dietary plan if it weren't for the fact that meat, fish, poultry is so tasty to me.
One part of vegetarianism I don't completely understand is the reason some people give. Often, their reasons are the cruel treatment of the animals for slaughter. If that is the case, then they should not use anything which uses animal testing either. That would include all medicine and most personal hygiene/cosmetics. It is really a line in the sand. The ones who say they do it for health reasons, bravo!|||I'm an omnivore myself. But I do believe that animals should be treated very well, and that they should be killed very quickly before they become food.
Animals deserve rights. But I'd die if I stopped eating them.
I think you may find a slight rise in the number of non meat eaters in the sections of Y!A that attract activists, and others with very strong opinions. Most activists, and those that come online to speak enthusiastically on what is very important to them, often have very strong opinions about a lot of other subjects, including animal rights, and diet.
It's a personality trait, as well as an opinion.|||I think they are good and healthy choices. It's good for the enviroment and it's more humane. But you need to be careful to get your complex proteins.
I tried vegetarianism for several years and I noticed it actually made me faster in rugby. I guess I just lost weight but whatever, it actually improved my game. But then I am pretty sure it affected me psychologically because I wasn't getting enough protein and I found that I sure missed eating meat.|||I was a vegetarian for about 3 months, it helped with weight loss. I couldn't go without yogurt, milk, cheese or eggs, however.
I love animals. But I like to eat meat and it energizes me. So I like to think about it in a primitive way, and I am thankful to the animal that it has given its life for me. I think that if people had to kill the animals themselves, they would probably have a better life than they do now when they grow in artificial farms where they have no place to move and are pumped full of growth hormones. We would probably be heathier, too, if we ate healthier meat.|||I am vegetarian. I chose it first because I didn't know how the meat and poultry is produced. I watched a documentary about that and stopped eating meat that day.
I was in 6th grade then. As I went to college and saw different patients; I realized that its also a healthy choice for your heart, arteries and kidneys. Then I realized its good for the nature too.
With animal hormones seeping into our food, its no wonder the average age of cardiac infarction has steadily decreased over the years. Where as age of menarche has decreased in women.
Vegan-ism is extreme thing. Its another mindless bastardization of any good eastern philosophical idea.|||If someone wants to be a vegan or a vegetarian, then it is entirely up to them. It's not for anyone else to say that they are wrong. I can fully appreciate someones wish not to eat meat or any animal products, and I respect their choice.
However, what I don't like is when sometimes THEY have a go at us meat eaters for eating meat. Sometimes they tell us we shouldn't, which is absolute nonsense because human's ARE meat eaters, we are meant to eat meat, our bodies are designed for it. That is not to say that every human should eat meat, like i say if some people choose not to then it is their choice.|||I'm absolutely alright with vegetarians. Alot of times, I wind up 'accidentally' living as a vegetarian due to meat being expensive, as well as the times when mad cow or blue tongue strikes again.
But vegans...? I've never met one personally, though I often hear them preaching about not wearing animal skin or even drinking milk (whuh? what about osteoporosis?). So they seem very foreign to me.
Then again, I've seen alot of vegans crow about the greatness of frozen meals like Quorn, which are vegan foods....shaped like non-vegan foods.
Personally I just find it amusing, not to mention gross, since that's pretty much processed 'things' mashed together to resemble food.|||I wouldn't invite a vegan to dinner. Vegetarians are alright, people have a lot of reasons to be vegetarian. Veganism is too extreme, it's like a fundamentalist religion.|||If that's what you want to do, feel free. I personally eat meat. The saltier the better. I eat steak and sausages and meat loaf and roast chicken and fried chicken and stews and ... well, you get the picture.|||Human beings are meant to be omnivores, but one can live on a vegetarian diet if it's done properly. A vegan diet is unhealthy.|||veganism.PS i don't know what the word means .i believe it means revenge|||I'm fine with both of those in theory, but many vegetarians/vegans I have met tend to be overly proud of their diets.|||I am vegetarian.|||I have no opinion, as long as they don't judge us "meat eaters"=P|||their lifestyle baby
not me though
love meat
hell of a protein
I've been vegan for about three years now - and interested in philosophy for many, many more. Would love to find a forum to discuss the philosophical aspects of veganism and animal rights...but almost every forum I find is pretty much dead. Anyone know of a good site? Thanks!|||http://www.animalsuffering.com/forum/
http://www.animalrightscommunity.com/abo鈥?/a>
http://veganforum.com/forums/index.php
http://www.veganrepresent.com/
http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/forum鈥?/a>|||it belonge to your failth avegetarien must study to become silence and peace inside
Just wondered cause i saw an article on it :)
Do you think its a religion?
Do you think that children should be taught about veganism and vegetarianism to further tolerance and understanding? I find many people make fun of me cuz i'm vegan i think school talking about veganism and vegetarianism would help make others more tolerant of it and accept it more.|||It is not the school's job to make everyone "tolerate" your diet. Sorry.
Dietary preferences are not a religion. Do you seriously mean to say that you worship and revere your food as a deity as opposed to the deity that created that food?
No one is making fun of you for being a vegan. You sound like you are in high school. You are being made fun of because that is precisely what high schoolers do. Sorry.|||There is nothing religious about choosing to be a vegetarian...it is a life choice and not affiliated in the least with religion. Seriously, we need another religious overtone to another life choice..like we need a hole in the head. Adding religion to your diet will only leave more people wondering. If you have chosen to be a vegan, for the right reasons..like nutrition, intestinal tract health, energy..etc...then that is why you are a vegan. If you really want it accepted, then fulfill your beliefs about being a vegan in a quiet way without judging people that do eat meat, or trying to convert them...and you may just find that people may be interested enough to start quizzing you. I am a vegan too.|||I most defiantly do not think that it is a religion. I think that it could be considered a way of life though. Oh, and in my school when we take nutrition we do learn about vegetarianism and veganism. :)|||A religion? It depends on your definition. The dictionary gives two: the first definition states that a religion is "people's beliefs and opinions concerning the existence, nature, and worship of a deity or deities, and divine involvement in the universe and human life." If you define religion by those terms, no, I don't think it's a religion because it doesn't really involve a deity.
Another is "a set of strongly-held beliefs, values, and attitudes that somebody lives by"; if that's the case, yes, it can be considered a religion.
It all depends on who you ask. Some people take their lifestyle more seriously than others, too.
I don't think that it SHOULD be taught in school necessarily. If it is taught in schools, I think that the purpose should be to simply inform the students about the world around them, or to help them make decisions as they find out who they are. The curriculum should simply lay out the plan and simple facts--the pros as well as the cons--and not, not, NOT take one side over the other. It would probably be an elective class...some kind of social studies class about everyday life, or something like that. Anyway, vegetarianism and veganism isn't really something that must be taught in school. It's kind of a personal decision.
I suppose it might be *mentioned* in some classes like environmental science, where the teacher might point out how some people take a vegetarian/vegan lifestyle in order to cut down on water usage or the like.|||No. Religion refers to a belief in invisible magic people or entities. Vegetables are quite real.
It would be very helpful if schools provided useful accurate information about health and nutrition to students, and that would include a discussion of diets like vegetarianism. You shouldn't be made fun of about your diet, but you can try to learn ways to respond to people who persist. I've usually found that a simple comment that I really prefer not to eat dead chopped-up animals stops most people in their tracks. That may or may not work with people who don't realize where their food actually comes from. I occasionally run into someone who thinks that vegetarians only eat salads, or some such thing. Incidentally, if you should have a physical examination, ask your doctor to check your Vitamin D level. I recently found that mine was extremely low, probably as a result of my meatless diet. Also, for a chuckle, I was in the hospital a few months ago, and was referred to a registered dietitian. I explained that I was basically a vegetarian with an occasional weakness for pepperoni pizza (joke) and we discussed what I ate at some length. Her recommendation was that I should eat more vegetables... Good luck.|||I don't think its a religion at all.
I myself am vegetarian, but that my own choice.
I think its more of what you prefer to eat, not on your beliefs.
I don't think talking to the kids about it will make a difference at all.|||In a manner of speaking, I would say it does have some religious aspect to it, since anyone who is a vegetarian or vegan generally has very strong beliefs behind their choice. Actually, sometimes it can be directly associated with religion- I've met people who do not eat animal products because it is simply a part of their religion that they believe it is wrong.
So, I would say it can either a part of religion or a choice that is made in religious aspect. I wouldn't actually go so far as to call it a religion itself though, because lifestyle choice is something that comes along with religion, but is not the religion itself.
Just my opinion though!|||i dont think its a religion but don't worry if people make fun of you. :) i think it should only be taught in health class because that is a health situation. also we learned about it in my health class.|||no i don't think it should be a religion and if they where to start to Tech it at schools we would be blamed for trying to brain wash kids you cant win|||BY PURE DEFINITION it is certainly not a religion. Anyway, what you're thinking of is called a cult.
V*ganism isn't organised so it can't be a cult. It is a personal choice.|||This is a personal choice, not something the schools should teach in depth. While nutrition should be studied, and these subjects are part of it, no I don't think they should devote a whole lot of time to it.
Kids used to bully me because I was a tall girl. Health, genetics, etc. were all taught in school, but it didn't matter. I still got picked on and bullied.
If you weren't vegan, kids would find something else to pick on. Be strong and you'll survive. I did.|||there are many religions that promote vegetarianism. they arnt one in the same but there ARE religions that promote vegetarianism if not require it.
2 are Jainism and 7th day Adventists.
many secular humanists like what i am are vegetarian
There is no reason why it shouldnt be taught in schools but there are many road blocks. a lot of school lunch programs work under contract with meat industry. thats 1 reason why school lunchs have ALWAYS been complete garbage that no one -not even omnivores- want to eat. anyway- these contracts school districts have with the food industry will prevent any education about vegetarian life option in schools.
Oprah got sued for just saying she will never eat meat again -on the air. remember.|||no, its not a religion
its a decision, a choice based on personal preferences and knowledge
and yes i think animal, as well as human welfare, should be taught in schools, along with many other things that are not taught but should be|||I do not consider it a religion although some religions include vegetarianism. I believe it should be tought in school.|||Is driving a Prius a religion? Is sleeping on the floor a religion? No.|||No, vegetarianism is not a religion, it's a diet. Religions are have sets of beliefs and practices - vegetarians don't necessarily have any of the same beliefs, people are veggie for different reasons.
Veganism is a lifestyle choice. You might describe it as a religion in more of an nonliteral sense, but I wouldn't call it a religion and I don't think it is helpful to call it one. People think of religion as pertaining to beliefs in supernatural nature and origin of the universe in particular, which has nothing to do with veganism. There are no sets of beliefs or practices except for the avoidance of all animal products as much as possible.
I do think children should be taught abouut vegetarianism and veganism. I think children should be taught about the health benefits of vegetarianism and I think they should be taught how to cook healthy meals in school.|||Because I am an Atheist, I consider my general set of moral values to be my "religion" and my diet is a major part of my ethics. So, while vegetarianism is part of my "religion" it wouldn't be considered so for the rest of society. Only when it is truly done on behalf of religion does it become a religious consideration.
About it being taught in schools. I would say that yes, it should definitely be covered or at least mentioned in health classes. I don't believe any sort of tolerance needs to be taught. I mean, a different way of eating is nothing to be seen as intolerable . . .
I am currently a vegetarian but I would really like to become a vegan. How can I do this and still have a healthy diet? I do not want to get sick from a lack of nutrition. Everything today seems to have a dairy product in it so I don't see how I can become a vegan and still have enough variation in my food in order to stay healthy? I am especially interested in a replacement for milk.
Thanks|||Go to health food/natural grocery stores where they will have milk and cheese subsitutes, as well as meat substitutes (I rly like tofu bacon and tofu hotdogs). You could use the cheese for sandwiches.. add lots of vegetables.. my favorite is avocado.. make lots of salads. you could do stir fry for din/lunch.. always check the ingredients of products, though. A lot have eggs/ other sources of meat/dairy, so I would watch out for that.
But I would definitely visit places like Trader Joes, Sunflower Market, Fresh and Easy, Whole Foods to find those substitutes.. on the other hand they also have some meat substitutes at regular grocery stores like Walmart and Safeway, but a much larger variety at those others..|||you must be looking at processed foods, with a ton of ingredients, becasue wholefoods don't have that issue.
Canned soup, boxed cereal, packaged and frozen dinners ( hamburger helper, pizza pockets etc) are full of crappy ingredients, you'll have to look for better quality food in the first place- cook your own.
Soy milk, almond milk, rice milk, oat milk, black bean milk, walnut milk, mung bean milk- these are all very common in any Korean or Chinese supermarket, in fact you're spoilt for choice.
They also will have better tofu, more varieties of soy products, dried vegetables, seaweeds, noodles and a ton of other stuff.
I never buy processed foods usually, so I don't have that issue, think about NOT buying processed stuff, it's a lot cheaper.|||Begin with these great guides that will help you substitute your meat, dessert and vitamins with their vegan counterparts! Make sure you speak with a professional to make sure you are getting the right amount of nutrition. Hope these help :)
Vegan Dessert Substitutes:
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/lifestyle/鈥?/a>
Meat Substitutes:
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/lifestyle/鈥?/a>
Vegan Vitamin Substitutes:
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/lifestyle/鈥?/a>|||Personally, I don't think you can be a healthy vegan, but I guess you can try. I'd say go to probably the two most reliable vegan health sites on the net:
http://www.veganhealth.org/
http://www.theveganrd.com/
They have some of the typical vegan propoganda, but for the most part these two registered vegan dieticians are upfront about the need to supplement your diet and the dangers if you don't.|||Make sure you supplement with B-12(not found in any plant food), vitamin D (most omnivorous foods are fortified with this, and Calcium(unless you are dedicated enough to have 4 servings of dark green leafy veg a day). I'm not sure what you already take as a vegetarian, since I went vegan all at once... Commercial American soy milk for me tastes horrible- I used to purchase Almond milk before I started making my own- has a lovely creamy texture and no aftertaste!|||I can recommend www.vegsoc.org.UK|||eat meat...
Vegans and veganism are basically the same thing, just one is a noun and the other is modified by the ism.
Vegetarians don't eat meat. No beef, pork, poultry, nothing. Some of them eat fish and some don't because some don't consider fish to be meat.
Vegans don't eat any biproducts of animals. So, this means no dairy products...cheese, milk, ice cream, eggs, so on. Anything an animal helped produce, vegans don't eat.
Hope that helps.|||vegetarians dont eat meat,such as beef/game etc,but some will eat poultry,turkey/chicken/seafood, vegans dont eat any animal product at all,no eggs nothing that had anything to do with any animal ever..|||Vegetarians do not eat dead animals (of ANY kind, including fish) or products made from them, but may opt to include animal foods from living animals (dairy and eggs.) Vegans do not eat, wear or use any products of animal origin, including wool, leather and honey.|||Mockingbird is right and only the first part of the first poster is correct.
No vegetarian eats fish or poultry. That sort of defeats the definition found in the dictionary. Anyone that eats animal flesh along with plant matter is an omnivore..plain and simple.
If you had taught them your values and morals their entire lives and they decided to reject them and consume meat, dairy, and eggs?
Would you be MORE or LESS disappointed than if your children rejected your views on politics or religion?|||Of course I'd be disappointed, since the value would not be just about diet, but also about the treatment of animals. I'd be sad, but of course I'd still love my child. I don't have kids yet, but I can imagine my disappointment being on par with the disappointment most folks would feel if they found out that their child was running a dog fighting operation, or bullying smaller children, or something similar to that. What I hope my children absorb from me is not just about diet, but a value about how to treat and approach other sentient animals (including, of course, people).
I am agnostic-ish. I wouldn't be upset or disappointed in my child for choosing a specific religion/faith. I hope to expose my child to a number of different faiths and educate them about what people believe and why. I hope my child learns a lot about different religions and finds them as interesting as I do! The only instance where I think I might be disappointed in my child would be if he or she converted for the wrong reason (to impress someone, for example), or if s/he chose to express his/her faith in a way that was destructive in some way.
In terms of politics, I hope my child is somewhat close to me, because I'd like to instill certain values in him/her. I think that your political beliefs are essentially just another expression of values, don't you?
I do think it is important to teach a child to think for his or herself, but I hope that I can also teach my child important values that will guide his or her thoughts and actions. Compassion and non-harm are very high on my list.
I hope that helps.|||I would encourage them to make their own, well-informed decision, once they are old enough to do this.|||I'd like to think I'd be happy they could think for themselves and didn't take what I told them as gospel, but used it as a stepping stone for forming their own values and opinions.
I don't have strong religious views so I can't say how I'd feel about that. I'd probably be the most upset if all my future children decided to set up camp with the tori party.
Edit: So, Cletus, if you avoid meat for 'health reasons' then you wont starve to death? Informative.|||I would say that it is a child's own choice as to how it nourishes itself when it is old enough to make the choice.
The same goes for politics and religion.
Imagine if every child just became a "Yes, Mum and Dad. No, Mum and Dad" little clone!
Parents who believe they are right and everybody else (including in this case their children) is wrong should really have a good look at themselves.|||I tend to think it is more important we know about our food and less important we give a label to it. I eat what I eat because I like it, appreciate the work that was one to get it, and know where the food came from. I tend to think that knowledge to be more important then an ideal of what a certain person would be like.
To give you an example my vegan friends have eaten chicken I have made. It is free range, organic chicken (meaning I let them run around). If they like it I give them more, if they do not I do not force them to eat it. But do I consider them "bad" vegetarians, no. I consider them to be bad as much I I consider myself to be a "bad" omnivore for trying TVP.
I am an omnivore by definition. I try to eat locally raised food and do so for most of my food. So I am what people call a local-vore. But I do not eat ALL my food locally (I drink coffee), but I try to. Is that so bad when I "fall" from my diet and eat something other people would judge me by? Should I really care that I do not stick to my diet 100%?|||I think if they had made a well evaluated decision later in life and are not doing this purely to rebel, I would support them, but I would never serve or stock any meat products in my house. I think it is very important that they have their own sense of individuality and are able to make their own decisions. I think attempting to control them too much will make them reel more and possibly resent me in later life.|||No - I expect my children to form thier own opinions when they are able to. As long as they are well thought out I would not have an issue with them.|||i really dnt mind if my kids want to b omnivores i want thm to b happy and make there own desicions if they want to eat meat that is fine but if they reject christianity i will b very very very dissapointed and probably kick them out of the house or make thm go to church anywayzz bc they will grow up n a christian enviroment and no who god is|||Deep down I would be dissapointed but I would let them make up their own minds. It wouldn't mean I would cook it for them though!|||Meh... at the age when they leave my home/etc. their choices are their own to make. Politically, religiously, and also with what foods they eat.
Doesn't mean I'd be cooking meat for them when they came back to visit, though! ;)|||I wouldn't be disappointed in them, I'd be very happy if they decided to eat meat.|||this is a silly question i just want my 2 points.|||no way im a carnivore i rape meat|||Hardly surprising. If you eat no meat b/c of health concerns then fine. The logical end to "be nice to critters... don't eat them" is to starve yourself to death. A single instance of abuse caught on video immediately translates into millions of people torturing their livestock to death. And it's that kind of complete over reaction that causes people to lump you in with the wing nuts. Maybe they just wanted a steak and were tired of listening to you belly ache? Plants are responsive to stimulus, communicate with each other in a manner (chemically) very similar to the way ants communicate and plants can act altruistically (by not drawing too many nutrients out of the soil) if they determine "siblings" are growing nearby. So if you're going to extend the benefit of the doubt to your barnyard pals then you ought to extend it to everything. Otherwise you're no different than the people you condemn... only too stupid to realize it. Maybe your kids get that?
Philosophy, focusing on ethics.
You might want to read Singer's "Practical Ethics" as you are considering how to proceed.|||as a raw vegetarian... freedom of choice.. you can't convince people.. and veganism technically doesn't exist... do your homework.. study the atomic age and how it works today.
what needs to be done is change the system of processed food industries... which is not going to happen...
if our bodies of development in our societies do not care for human rights.. what makes you think they'll care on animal..
do some study if you've not already (place a comma there.) on how the cow has been successfully utilized since the atomic age.
then you'll see why it's futile.. not because it's not compatible or transferable to plant construct in how to manufacture the element just the same.. but it's not cost effective when it comes to the system (for many who are willing to change) but.. for those who aren't and it's a cheap way to make much money to compensate.
it takes much money, effort and time and most are not willing... this system we've been subjected to... have been in effect for nearly 90 yrs.
thanks to the atomic age.. and how these scientists and farmers helped coagulate many animals, especially the cow, pig and chicken. their parts are not just for eating but their biproducts for preservative chemistry, medical and in use in helping develop plastics. cleansers, fertilization and even sterilization.. proprigation along with unfortunately organics.
just also research the FDA and organic regulations in today's what is considered as passible.
and then study the franklin roosevelt years.
i tried for myself in just the study... i couldn't even get a grant... let alone even a professor who is a friend.. they said it wasn't viable.
but.. as the standard.... i'm told to 'hang on a while longer'.... eh..
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But, if there were, I would definitely major in that.
Good luck finding one. :]|||There is no major for this.
Is it just for diet purposes or do you not support any place that sells meat? If that is the case then how do you buy your food when most grocery stores sell meat??
Just a general question to get everyone's opinions--thanks :)|||There's only one strictly vegan store in my city, and it's not a grocery. So yes, the stores I shop at do sell meat. Except for the farmer's market I go to in the summer - that's all fruits and veg. If there were a completely vegan co-op to shop at, I'd use it.
That said, I go further than diet. All my personal care products are vegan (soap, shampoo, toothpaste, makeup, etc) as well as all of my household products (detergents and cleaners).|||I go so far as to exclude gelatin and rennet out of my diet, but I buy my food from places like Whole Foods.|||I don't buy from fast food chains who's primary sales consist of meat. Like KFC or McDonalds even if they have vegan options available. I usually buy my veggies from a local green grocer who doesn't sell meat. But its hard to draw a clear distinction between indirect support and convenience. If I could avoid all places that sold meat all the time I would. But it's not always possible some times I have no other choice but to shop at woolworths or coles.|||It's near impossible to buy from a place that doesn't sell any kind of animal products. I just don't support the meat/dairy/egg etc part of their industries by only buying food that's vegan.|||not far enough.|||If someone refuses to buy vegan food from a store that sells meat, do they also refuse to speak to anyone that eats meat or other animal products?
I don't like any big business in general, I would rather support a company that isn't owned by greedy billionaires.
I don't think that sugar should be mention as not vegan just because an animal substance is used in production, especially since no animals are born, raised or killed for it.
If I'm going to say that sugar isn't vegan, neither is riding a bike or walking on asphalt or eating food that was transported by truck.
My own choices include not eating any fortified cereals with animal sourced vitamins which most people wouldn't even think of in relation to veganism. Most cereals are in fact, not even vegetarian due to the flesh, fat and blood-sourced vitamins. Not even milk is vegetarian because it has added vitamin D which is most commonly taken from the fat of slaughtered animals. It usually comes from China too. Mmm, the cleanest of clean.
All of this is true in spite of the fact that none of this contributes to any suffering. Only things such as meat, milk, eggs, fur and animal testing contribute to the suffering of animals. Most of the things that I avoid don't make any difference. I just avoid them because the industry that they represent disgusts me.|||It's almost impossible to buy my food from someplace that doesn't sell meat (or other animal products.) In the summer, I buy my fruits and vegetables from the local farmer's market or grow (vegetables and tomatoes) myself. Unfortunately as I move into either a dorm or apartment this summer, I won't be able to grow my own produce.
As for clothing, I usually buy secondhand or online from vegan, fair-trade, sources. I buy personal hygiene and care products the same way.|||I just don't eat it.
if other people like it then they can eat it
i don't try and push it on other people, i think that is just plain anoying
honestly God actually DID put animals on the earth for us to eat
even though that was hard to say, its true
*this is just MY opinion, don't hate ;)*
i've been a proud vegetarian for 1 year now & whenever i tell anyone (even my own family], they call me crazy && that i'm starving myself. it hurts. i have no support except for my own veggie fraans`. has this ever happened to you ? why?|||Honestly, before I became a vegetarian, I had no idea why people did it unless they were PETA freaks. I thought it was stupid and pointless to be a vegetarian. Then I randomly read Skinny ***** which sparked my interest in vegetarianism, I started doing tons of research, and now I think being a vegetarian/vegan is the smartest thing to do! Maybe when you tell people, they don't understand why people become vegetarians, so you could briefly explain. Here are the main reasons:
1. Animal rights reasons:
http://www.vegan-nutritionista.com/facto鈥?/a>
2. Environmental reasons:
http://www.vegan-nutritionista.com/envir鈥?/a>
3. Economical reasons:
http://www.vegan-nutritionista.com/econo鈥?/a>
4. Health reasons:
http://www.vegan-nutritionista.com/healt鈥?/a>
I would try to explain it to them WITHOUT being preachy, because people hate to be preached to! I think that's one of the reasons vegetarians/vegans get a bad name, because of the people who try to promote it too strongly. They usually think we are all hippy PETA freaks, but it's really just a few crazies that give us all that stereotype.|||Western civilization comes from a herding culture that has been exploiting animals for meat and dairy for about 10,000 years. Food is such a huge part of this culture that it became ingrained and a therefore a taboo. For this reason people become threatened when the status quo is put under scrutiny. What they don't understand is that although human culture has evolved, homo sapiens haven't physically changed for about 100,000 years. Western diet now spreading all over the world, but most other cultures did not traditionally drink other species milk (for example). Humans have always had a wide range of dietary patterns. It is healthy for us to eat a plant based diet. The longest lived culture in the world (the Hunza of Pakistan) eat a 99% vegan and 100% vegetarian diet. We should also look at what is reasonable for today. Meat and dairy production use up vast amount of natural resources, create a massive carbon footprint and is extremely cruel. There is also nothing "natural" about the industrial livestock farming system of today! Is it normal to masturbate a bull and then artificially inseminate a cow, when he baby is born take him away, put the baby in a crate so he can't move and his muscles atrophy (so his meat is tender) and steal then the mother's milk? All the while she might never have seen the light of day, never have chewed on fresh grass, is injected with hormones, genetically modified and fed high protein feed made of other animals? I don't think so.
PS. I also wouldn't underestimate the power of propaganda and the meat and dairy industry is very powerful! Got milk?|||There are a few reasons.
One would be that most people never had experience with a non-meat diet and it strikes them as strange.
Another would be that since they are less of them, vegetarians tend to be a more vocal group. It's similar to getting a lecture from an ex-smoker.
Add to that the fact that a vegetarian diet needs B supplements and there is NO non-meat source for Vitamin B12 which the body needs. B12 can be made from bacterium. To me that is a living animal. It's alive, it moves under it's own power. It depends on how rational you want to be. As far as I know, it is not possible to create B12 from plants or synthetic sources. Every animal kills something to survive, it;s a fact of life. Humans are animals.
It is very possible to lead a healthy life as a vegetarian. In my experience it was harder for me, so I gave it up. Plus I love a good steak and crab.|||They don't think it's wrong, they just don't understand it. Some people believe that since we're the "superior" species, we deserve to eat any other species we want. I don't follow this idiotic brand of reasoning.
I've met animals weaker than humans, but then again, I've met humans weaker than animals. Does this mean they deserve to die for it? No.|||Everyone in my family was fine with it. I'm the bleeding heart liberal, gay, oddball of the family. Something tells me they were just kind of waiting on this to happen.
I went to a birthday party not too long ago and my mom was as drunk as I've ever seen her (it's a rare occurrence, but always funny), trying to get me to eat something. She'd catch herself offering me chicken and shrimp and then would laugh to herself and tell my aunt that, "She's a vegetarian...*hiccup* she's...turning into *hiccup* a weirdo." I just laughed it off and commented that tequila was vegan so we might as well have a shot.
Someone's always going to have a problem with it because they'll infer that because you choose not to eat meat, it's a judgment on them eating meat. But really, how much support do you need from people regarding your dietary choices? This isn't a lifestyle, it's just food.|||a lot of people, especially family members and those who care about you, may think it's unhealthy because of all of the propoganda the USDA has put out about how our bodies NEED meat, but really we don't need meat to be healthy.
other people may think that us vegetarians/vegans think we are better than meat eaters because there are some vegetarians who are so extreme and rude about their lifestyle and try to force it on others, making them feel guilty about eating meat. these people give us a bad name. the best thing you can do is to not throw facts and statistics in meat eaters' faces about how many animals are killed, how they are slaughtered, etc. if you want them to respect your lifestyle, you need to respect theirs as well.
ya, this has happened to me too. ive been veggie for a year now just like you :) and im still trying to find my place. it's hard grocery shopping because you always have to read the ingredients for gelatin, rennet, etc. and nobody likes to feel different or disliked, you just need to remind yourself every day why you are doing it and all of the animals you are saving through your choices.|||I've been veggie for 10 years and only ever had to put up with jokes about it, nothing serious. I know a lot of other veggies and even my mum, who never really understood it, went out of her way to make sure that a good healthy veggie meal was prepared for the whole family.
I have been shocked at the amount of abuse some people have been giving vegetarians on this site.(you know who you are)
I had no idea that people where so opposed to it.|||I think for the most part its just pure ignorance... Your "different" than they are and some people don't ever grow out of the "pick on the one that stands out" phase.
My father-in-law calmly informed me that I would never be as healthy eating a vegetarian diet as a diet that has meat in it. I just smiled at him and said, "Oh dear, that's a shame!! I shall do my best though"
I have noticed as well as another poster on this thread that there are a LOT of people who are quite rude and nasty about vegetarians & vegans on Yahoo! Answers!!! If they don't like us or our lifestyle maybe they shouldn't come to this part of the boards... You know what Momma always used to say, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!!"|||They just cannot give up eating meat & don't understand why anyone would. I get it from everyone I know because I am 99% vegan. I frequent vegan restaurants and I never cook meat or animal products at home. I always hear how unhealthy it is to not eat meat, but the opposite is true. My niece & nephew are true vegetarians because they do eat fish.|||most likely reason being that a meatless diet you'll have an 'imbalanced-diet', i've been a vegetarian for the last 20+ years & this is the most common remark i've recieved, you don't have to feel hurt, tell them that you're going 'green' literally & figuratively|||im a vegan and i find their just uneducated and ignorant as well as just straight up dense when what is wrong is killing and eating a animal and your enlightened when you realize what is going on in the world around you|||could it be because of the PETA crazies that seem to run with the veg crowd that think animals should have all the same rights as humans?|||because your presence makes them feel guilty about animals being killed for them|||cuz the human body is meant to eat MEAT YUM|||they just don't understand.
I decided to go vegan 6 days ago and I feel that I've been much more emotional then usual... (and no I'm not PMS-ing).
Just to add, I'm eating what is recommended...|||It's detox- both my husband and I went through it when we became vegan.|||I'm definitely a meat-eater, but I'd imagine that any major change you make in your daily diet would impact you emotionally. Just be sure that the feelings improve soon, or see your doctor.|||Yes! I am not vegan but did try it...I know that I did read several articles on some people feeling worse before they felt their health significantly improve. This is because your body is basically going through a detox from all the junk you formally were eating and I know they recommend you drink a large amount of water so that the toxins have a less noticeable effect as they exit your body. Water and plenty of rest. Exercise will help you too. Anything to get fresh new oxygen throughout your systems! Good luck with veganism, it's probably going to be a good thing in terms of your long term health. If you are feeling a little yucky then you are experiencing temporary side effects. Just hang in!|||I don't know about emotional, but I felt very strange for a week or two after I stopped consuming dairy products. I learned that milk produces opioid peptides called casomorphins when digested. I'm not kidding. Opioid peptides play a role in your brain, with regard to emotions. Maybe this is part of what you're experiencing. After about two weeks, my eyes also cleared up, and I wasn't getting that phlegmy feeling laying in bed that I used to get before I went vegan.
An adult human does not need to drink their mother's breast milk, or the baby milk of any other species. That was never more clear than it was after I changed to a vegan diet.
I've been vegetarian for about 5 years now, and I've recently decided to try going vegan.
I genuinely no longer want to consume animal products and I'm genuinely grossed out by them, but I can't help feeling that it's just another way for me to obsessed about my diet.
I'm a serial yo-yo dieter, but I've decided to never go on another diet and just eat properly.
What do you think? Is veganism just another food obsession opportunity?|||That depends on how you use it. You seem aware of the possibility so be just as observant of your behavior.
Veganism is a choice. We are omnivorous creatures which suggests to me that we are capable of making dietary choices, and have shown in extreme cases that we can survive on anything.
Since you are concerned about your diet, try to avoid putting too much attention toward the "results" whatever they may be. Although we are capable of overdoing it you don't seem obsessed in the clinical sense.|||I think its a form of social commitment and self discipline. I admire people who can do it as I cant seem to manage it.....|||no not at all. i consider 'veganism' as a choice in what and how someone prefers to eat, that's all.|||No I don't think so at all, because if you are following a proper balanced diet that just happens to be a vegan diet then there is no disorder there at all. The yo yo dieting part is the disorder, not what you eat when you do that. Good luck with the plan and yeah I wish I could have that discipline, too many things are just too yummy for me to resist.|||I don't know whether it is an eating disorder, but I'm non-veggie, but I have tried being veggie for 1 year.
It was ok, however I thought about it and really the bottom line is that as humans, we have evolved as carnivores.
Our dna and genetic makeup means that we operate the best as carnivores, and so now my opinion is that being veggie can't be that good for you, considering our bodies are designed to process and make best use of all foods.
I yo-yo diet as well, but during the non-diet periods, I generally just eat healthy and you don't put on weight.
Food fads is merely a product of media attention and manipulation.
Just my opinion.|||Trading binge dieting for proper eating is a good idea. Veganism is only a disorder if it causes you to be unhealthy. Eating properly as a vegan is pretty tricky, but it can be done if you are smart and do your homework on it. Proper nutrition by itself is a complicated subject with many 'gray' areas. I don't think that paying attention to what you eat is a (bad) obsession. Its a good idea to eat as well as you can.|||A good decision..way to go ....& eat more organic food when u can....I'm vegan now for ten years now......no colds or flue's & ton's more energy sence i change over !!!!!!|||just be like the rest of us and grap a burger!|||Well I think most veggies I have talked to would want to strangle me if I said that.
Is it for spiritual/moral/ethical/humane reasons?|||For me, it was purely for humane reasons. But I recently went to the doctor and my cholesterol has dropped immensely as well as my weight. [I have a long family history of both.]
My doctor said this might actually be a healthier diet for me. Plus, I don't feel as heavy and lethargic as I did when I ate meat.|||for me it was humane i guess
im not too sure!
but you should go vegan! its good for the world|||Poverty.|||The motivation is to make your hair shiny blonde because it is soo funny and cool. Sunshine butterflies and broccoli rabe. One time i turned on a lamp in my laboratory and i was so flabbergasted oh my gosh it was so prominant and joyous.|||Veganism implies moral concern for animals first and foremost. The health and environmental aspects are just bonuses.|||For many people, yes. "Moral," "Ethical," and "Humane" all cover a lot of ground, you know.|||I was originally motivated by undercover videos of factory farms. Dairy and eggs are just as intrusive as meat, if not moreso; the female animals are kept as slaves, their fertility exploited until they can produce no more, at which point they are killed and sold as meat. No retirement, no justice, no pasture, no babies, no free-range.
I was vegetarian for a few years and mostly vegan. It was difficult for me to give up cheese. I finally started visualizing dirty sickly hens when I'd look at an egg, and a bloody, puss-y nipple and a hungry calf when I'd see cheese. It totally spoiled my appetite. I'm very health-conscious, and I believe as a species we're meant to be herbivores. We are evolved to take on a variety of foods, and we can digest animal products and chemicals, but for the most part they are difficult on our bodies and cause many modern health dilemmas.
The last time I had cheese, I also had severely embarrassing gas. I realized I had become lactose intolerant. I ate so much cheese and drank milk every day as a child. If you stop eating bananas or carrots for a few months, then eat one, you won't have bad gas because it's more natural for our bodies to absorb properties of bananas and carrots than another mammal's milk. Those are just a few clues that motivate me to be vegan. Plus, I love the food. I feel better, I look better, and I am a nicer person as a vegan.|||Veganism is an ethical and political statement that rejects the exploitation and commodification of animals for human consumption.
It is philosophically and ethically different in every way from vegetarianism in that vegetarians still participate in animal exploitation, some forms of which are even more cruel than raising animals for meat.
To vegans, the issue is not treatment. It is use. Veganism is the application of the theory of abolition to one's daily life - the theory that as long as any sentient beings are human property and a means to human ends, nothing will change no matter how big you make the cages and that sentience should the only requirement for entry into the full moral community.
Animal rights is concerned about abolishing all animal exploitation. It is the right for an animal to be left alone (thus it is a "negative right") and not become property - This means not breeding animals in the first place for human consumption, companionship, vivisection, entertainment and clothing as all of those things require the commodification of a sentient other.
Because animals are the property of humans, laws that supposedly require their “humane” treatment and prohibit the infliction of “unnecessary” harm do not provide any significant level of protection for animal interests. For the most part, these laws and regulations require only that animals receive that level of protection that is required for their use as human property. Animals only have values as commodities and their interests do no matter in any moral sense. As a result, despite having laws that supposedly protect animals, we treat animals in ways that would be regarded as torture if humans were involved. We could provide greater protection to animals even if they remain our property, but legal, social, and economic forces militate strongly against recognizing animal interests unless there is an economic benefit for humans.
Animal-rights is not animal welfare. Animal wefarism seeks to regulate animal exploitation in order to make it more "humane".
The abolitionist position is that we cannot justify our use of nonhumans however “humanely” we treat animals; the regulationist position is that animal use is justifiable and that only issues of treatment are relevant.
Examples of welfarism: HSUS, PETA* (yes, PETA), ASPCA, RSPCA.
Put simply, you can not be an animal-rights person without being vegan.
*PeTA is welfarist because they promote "happy meat" and even gave an award to a slaughterhouse designer (TEMPLE GRANDIN).
PS. One who does not consume animals but wears animals or consumes animals in other ways, or does the above for health reasons is not a vegan, but a strict vegetarian. Veganism is about ethics.|||It is different for everyone.|||People can eat a vegan diet for any reason.
Actual veganism is motivated by the suffering and well-being of other people and animals.
http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan
I'm curious what the general state of opinion is on this topic.
And yes, I am faced with the decision to convert due to a rare health concern, my husband has to limit consumption of animal based food, if not get rid of it all together.|||i think its a great thing, theres alot of substitutes for dairy products that are good and theres so many tasty nutritious things to eat and if you do it right you wont feel like you are missing out by not eating meat. plus think of all the animals your NOT eating, the health benefits are outrageous! good luck and i know you will enjoy it.|||i love being a vegan, it's so empowering.
for animal rights, the environment and your body.. it's one of the best, if not the best thing you can do.
anyway about your husband, he doesn't have to "suffer" when he gives up animal products. going vegan has opened up a whole new world of food for me. before veganism, i was absolutely the most pickiest eater on the planet. now i'm trying, and LOVING new things i would not have even put in my mouth before. it's wonderful. vegan lifestyle is an adventure (:|||As long as you ensure that you're not the preachy kind who butts your nose into everyone's business and gives me crap about what I choose to eat, then I have no problem with it.
But you would be among a small minority of the vegans (most of whom are quite militant and fanatical) that I've ever come into contact with.
Also, veganism is a lifestyle, not just a diet. You're not supposed to use any animal-based products at all, not just quit eating them. If your concern is based upon your health, then you could be a strict vegetarian.|||who knows?|||I think it's the second healthiest diet to have (next to raw foodism). I've been vegetarian for three years now and I'm stepping over to veganism. plus, I was told that when you eat dairy you are supporting the same industry that meat comes from....which does not sit well with me.|||I think veganism is great but then again I am vegan so that's a bias answer.
I'm sorry to hear that you have a health concern. May I ask what it is?
There are a lot of books on vegan baking and vegan cooking that I'm sure will help you and your husband. Living without animal products is easy once you know what to look for. I find being a vegan very easy because it becomes a habit more or less in about six months time.
Good luck.|||I'm giving it a go|||I think its great and truly noble.|||I think it's admirable, and if you do it right it's totally healthy.
I've already got a few I've got "Diet For A New America", "Vegan Gal Change Your Food Change Your Life", etc.
But what are some others?|||"Earthlings" & "wake up screaming" and general veggie/vegan dvds that go into all aspects of the lifestyle. Buy earthlings and make meat eaters watch it.|||man please search in google or wikipedia.
I am going vegan. I've been reading nutrition books and such, but I'd like to get some information from personal experience as well. What are animal products that pop up in a lot of foods? I know about gelatin, casein, and whey. Others?
Extra: Are there any foods you've ever thought were vegan, before discovering that they actually were not?|||Honey (In most wheat breads)
Beeswax
Carmine (Coloring from crushed insects)
Shellac (Insect secretion)
Lard
In addition to diet, vegans don't use other animal byproducts like leather. Which I thought of being vegan, but something I DIDN'T think of was silk, ivory, and pearls. As a girl, wearing pearls is something that could happen, but it didn't occur to me where they came from. I mean, I knew, but I didn't think about it. I was also reminded that silk comes from silkworms. The silkworm is killed in the process. Boar bristles in hairbrushes also aren't vegan as they're from boars.
Also, I found out that beer is typically processed with dried fish bladders. There's a lot of beer that isn't vegan. I don't drink alcohol so I don't have to worry about that one.
I was also shocked when the other day I went to eat some dry roasted peanuts that my boyfriend had around the apartment and they had gelatin in them! In peanuts! So you really have to read all the labels.
Here's a few good reference lists:
http://www.vegsoc.org/info/stumbling.htm鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbaking.net/resources/ani鈥?/a>|||Before going vegetarian, I thought Jell-O and marshmallows were okay, they're not. Then, as I'm transitioning into veganism, I find out a lot of gum isn't vegan either. Another to avoid is carmine, also known as Crimson Lake, Cochineal, Natural Red 4, C.I. 75470, or E120. It's from insects, which is basically A) Not vegetarian or vegan and B) Just plain nasty.
And as someone else said, honey. It isn't vegan.|||Honey is a big one, and things like glycerin or "natural flavors" which can be either animal or plant based. There's tons of food additives if you eat processed/packaged foods. There's a few good lists online. Just google "animal ingredients" or something like that. There's even a list that you can download to your iphone or ipod (probably other smart phones too?). But, the most comprehensive list I know of is this: http://www.akpress.org/2004/items/animal鈥?/a> I've been vegan over ten years & still refer to it every now & then.|||Gelatin (from animal bones), milk powder and egg white.|||butter, except for earth balance|||yeah, like today i was about to eat soy yogurt and found out it had milk too
Just curious, LOL.
Obviously not planning to go to prison but I am wondering about it.|||Well, here in the US, it can be difficult. You may have to fight for it with your lawyer based on religious or medical reasons. Animal rights activists have had to do just that when they're denied vegan food. In my area, they typically serve a very low budget meal like cheap pork bologna sandwiches on white bread bought from the day-old bakery (where they sell it when it's past the optimal freshness date) in jail, and supplement it with a small amount of vegetables grown right at the jail.|||Don't have a clue about the Australian legal system. It's not mandatory here in the US, as evidenced by the guy from 'lizzie borden' who was on hunger strike while in an LA county jail earlier this year because they would not cater to his vegan diet.
Arguments can be made that it's a religious issue, but it depends on a judge's ruling for that.|||probably not ur veganism but i think you could stay a vegetarian while in jail as long as u werent their for a long time. my moms boyfriend when to jail and they served him alot of veggies and stuff along with meat. and he said they gave him soymilk instead of cow's milk cause i guess its cheaper to buy when u buy it in bulk.|||They must accomodate religious beliefs and medical concerns. However, your vegetarianism must be documentable in most states.|||No. the government doesnt care about your dietary needs. I was locked up for 4 days for a parking violation (failure to appear) and they denied me my HIV meds for the whole time.
The government doesn't care. GOD FORBID the government takes over our health care system. It will be a disaster.|||I would definitely go with a rapid religious conversion in the event of your arrest, because I think you would have a good case under basic human rights in any jurisdiction to get an appropriate meal.
I am sure the best plan is to stay outta trouble though :-)|||Unlikely. I am not aware of any religion that requires you to be a vegan so you have no human rights reason to get the food you want.
If you were a vegetarian you might be able to say you are a Buddhist of some sort and get vegetarian meals.|||Not in the USA, I don't know about the UK.
A son of a coworker is vegetarian and had to go to jail. They would not give him special food.
They will give a kosher diet, but not a vegetarian diet.
As a result, he lost a lot of weight.|||No...Not buy staff but you might be able to trade off your tray swapping your meat for someones veggies...also there is commissary but not allot of produce on there.but you can buy things to trade for fruit/veggies off other peoples trays.|||possibly, if you took it up with the warden, apparently a scottish prisoner in england managed to get haggis, neeps and tatties for his sunday dinner so it could be possible|||sorry my friend. nothing but a steady diet of tubesteak in there|||no|||Yes you can request a special diet and they have to cater to it.They can't make you change your beliefs.Just let them know when you go in that you are a vegan.
This question sponsored by my violation notice.|||You have fired up the natives today!!!
I think to be able to adapt to modern society, rather then shun away from it. It is always easier to adapt then live without a lot of modern conveniences.|||When was it changed, what was it changed from, and what was it changed to?|||To make it more clear that veganism isn't a special club, but a movement that wants to influence as many people as possible...........
........for the sake of the ANIMALS.|||they changed it as soon as people like you came along trying to claim veganism was invalid because no one could "Really" be vegan.|||Seems like it's been a rough morning for ya...
Anyhoo, just thought I would share this with you:
http://www.ukveggie.com/vegan_news/vegan鈥?/a>
It's Donald Watson's very first publication.
I know I'm totally setting myself up for lame answers like "brains".|||You obviously have brains since you saw that coming so I'd say the answer is "common sense" - look at your teeth - we're OMNIVORES - not that I really care what you eat but note that you don't see an omnivore asking questions like this about the food they eat...|||Vegetarians don't lack in anything as long as the food is balanced|||if it's well balanced you're not lacking in anything.
the protein the vitamin b-12.. the minerals.. vitamin propaganda where vegetarians / vegans don't get enough and they'll get sick and burst into flames... is a fraud.
that's the same style of crap you get from those anti drug propagandists.. who use scare tactics like if you smoke pot guys will grow boobs and girls well become shemales.
and vegans/vegetarians do get enough protein.. because there are chubby and even some fat vegans and veggieheads...
it's not hard to get protein.. or minerals if someone eats right.
not all vegans/veggiheads look pale and frail... and not all of use are nazi vegans... not all of us push our ethics onto meatatarians or others...
it's just a bunch of noise...
one can do what they want.. and not all vegan types and vegetarians out there are crying over the butchered animals..
it happens... some things should be changed over all because mass production skimps on all things not just the meat.. but vegetable product too and fruits..
(remember the spinach and lettuce scare this summer?) it happens.. one must be cautious.
finger pointing amounts to nothing.
vegans going on about evil meatatarians is utter crap.. just like the vise versa...
and no one can change anyone... only person who can do that is themselves...
no one should change... but everyone should have a balanced diet.. NO matter what their lifestyle preference is.
and no matter who does what... long as the public desires it.. the manufacturers will produce it. ( of course the quality is in question.. that happens )
there.
:D
(i know this wasn't the answer you were looking for but i did it anyways... )
oh yeh.. those vegans who want people to stop eating meat... OH come ON now... why? what will that do? will that make the world happier? will that stop the butchering? what exactly will that do? (nothing to be honest) because meat is a natural thing to omnivores.. that's why they're called that... just some can't digest that protein/fat in meats.. (such as myself) and prefer to just move onto something the body doesn't have much trouble with.
i don't tell folks what to do... what gives the next person the privilege? (nothing) the bickering must stop? it never will.. long as we are always trying to change folks.. there will always be some 'conflict'...
want a doobie? <///////////>~~~~|||We're lacking in the public relations department, apparently. People have all kinds of misconceptions about vegetarians - some don't even know what vegetarians eat.|||Heart disease, diabetes, obesity, high triglycerides, high cholesterol, hypertension....need I go on?
I think more people could stand to be as "lacking" as we are.|||Sorry I am NO AUTHORITY, though I do have a opinion based on years of study & self help.
If you have a balanced Veggie/Vegan Diet you lack NOTHING. But alas most of us don't. I rarely eat sea veggies so take a liquid B-12 daily. As a Veggie/Vegan your diet is healthier & more balanced than a heavy flesh eatters diet. Studies The China Study, Okanwain Study and many others have proven Veggie Based diet is the Health example for the world.
Sources like John Robbins, Dr. John McDougall, Dr. Dean Ornish, give us so much inforamtion to helps us along this different path of health.
Was this any help? I hope so.
Slaint茅 (to your health)|||We are lacking in weapons and vandalism against animal abusers and murderers.|||This question stereotypes a billion people. There are hundreds of variations of diets that'll sustain life, but people tend to focus on meat or no meat. Meat's not that special.
"you don't see an omnivore asking questions like this about the food they eat"
That's because they don't care. ALmost all americans lack things. The problem really is soil depleation. After all, meat is only as nutritious as the animals diet....and its not that great. But mine is(organic fruits, vegies, nuts,seeds, beans, grains - from a variety of places including my garden).|||My lame answer is....Meat.
I know this is the Dog section, not the Vegan & Vegetarian section, but I know the kind of answers I'll get there, and that's the whole point of asking it here-for (relatively) unbiased opinions. I'm open to all opinions, whether or not I agree with them, and will not TD anyone's answer.|||LOL - I'm another one of Ehawlz vegetarian contacts :D (hehe, ps, I thought this was funny.. firefox spell check wanted me to change Ehawlz to Heehaw.... LMAO)
Anyways... I think that we should all 'coexist', so to speak.... meaning, don't hate on me and I won't hate on you. I have my reasons for being a vegetarian and I probably won't change, but that doesn't mean I want to change everyone else, you know? that's the cool thing about individualism... you can do what you want, and I can do what I want (pretty much.. as long as it doesn't affect you or vise versa, i.e. committing murder LOL). So what I'm saying is that I respect your decision to believe whatever you believe and form your own opinions - in fact, I encourage it. People that just do what everyone else does and ''follow suit'' really get on my nerves... that's why I have a problem with a lot of religions. I find it pretty hard to believe that EVERY single person in a religion believes the exact cookie-cutter ideas. don't tell me those people formed their beliefs on their own and still ended up with the same ones as everyone else !!!! LOL.
Anyways... short answer : Live and let live. You want to be a vegetarian - fine. You don't, that's fine too. It's not my decision to make... it's yours.
I'm a vegetarian for several reasons... one is that it's easier to eat healthy (no bigmacs LOL), it moral puts my conscience at ease, morally, (I believe that all living things have souls - not just humans), and lastly the slaughtering system is unbelievably corrupt right now and inhumane (poor living conditions & suffering before slaughter, etc).
But again... I'm not going to judge you if you still want to have a steak LOL. I however, will live without.|||To each his own but I like meat. I need meat.|||For humans, each to their own and I applaud them for having such control and appreciate what they stand for, but its not for me.
For dogs.... NO NO NO!!! thats it :D|||I think both can be done healthily (even veganism, though obviously it's harder). An aquaintance of mine is vegan and has been for years. She has just completed a nursing degree and underwent/passed a full medical examination prior to starting her degree. She's not unhealthy.
I also think that veggies and vegans do no harm to anybody (as long as they don't preach), so I don't get the whole predudice to them. Lots of people think they're weird. I don't. I just wouldn't want to be one.
I think they're very dedicated people, vegans especially. But that lifestyle is not for me.
For dogs it's a completely different matter and is wrong on all accounts. Nobody is making you feel your dog raw meat, but if you're not even prepared to buy a meat-based kibble for the sake of your dog's health, you should have got a rabbit instead.|||It irrelevant to me what people eat. As long as they respect my choice, I will respect theirs. Just don't judge me as we were designed to eat meat. And so were dogs.|||I'm a vegetarian. And I think it's an easy way to avoid cholesterol, fats(unhealthy fats) etc. Good for the environment. I like it. My dog won't be following my dietary ways however, since I'm totally aware of their need for meat. I feed CORE.|||I'm a meat eater...
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and when it comes to human vegs its fine
Dogs on the other hand NO...dogs are carnivores..plain and simple.|||I'm a vegetarian. I choose to be because i don't like the thought of an animal dying for food but i would never judge anyone for eating meat because that is their choice.
I think people should be free to eat and not eat what they want and should not be judged for doing so.|||I'm a vegan, I think it's just an eating habit, I hate the whole meat eaters vs vegans, and vegetarian.
I do not, and will NEVER agree with a vegan or vegetarian diet for dogs, they are carnivores and need meat to thrive. I don't force my morals on an animal that has no concept of it.|||It is a personal choice.
I believe that everyone is entitled to their beliefs.
As I mentioned in another question they are a "greener" diet.
I see some people say it is unhealthy. It can be healthy if someone eats properly.
I admire those who can, personally, I just can't.
As for dogs, absolutely in no way do I agree with it. Unless the dog can tolerate no other food for a medical reason, which is highly unlikely.|||huh why are ya asking here, is it for your dog if so he has pointed teeth if ya hadnt noticed that means he eats meat if its however for you you dont have pointed teeth that means ya can live without meat but being honest i wouldnt choose to do that up to you though|||Starring, because I have a few in my contacts that are vegetarians...
I don't care what you, or anyone else wants to eat, as long as you don't harp on my own food choices.
That's how I feel.
Also, those 'I'm a vegan, and therefore holier than thou' people need to go. Srsly. They make good vegetarians look really, really bad.
And in the off chance, this is actually about making your dog a veggie eating hippy (Kidding, kidding!)
Not a good idea. Sure, my dog loves to steal fruit from the kitchen, and enjoys carrots, but I'd never make him eat only veggies and fruit, and the likes. I *do* want him to be healthy, after all...|||I have a high opinion of "vegetarianism" since I have been a vegetarian for over 20 years.
I would however die of starvation if I had to live on a vegan diet.
I find that way too extreme.|||I am a vegetarian because I'm not into the whole murdering thing..
But I know its not for everyone.
And should never be practiced with dogs, because that does not lead to a healthy animal.
And its pretty selfish for the owner to make their animal undergo that.|||I'm an omnivore!
I don't care what people eat, as long as they mind their own business and I will mind mine. I respect you if you're a vegetarian, but I really don't care to hear why you are. I don't go around talking about why I eat meat. And vegans...do they not eat cheese? People who don't eat cheese have something wrong with them.
EDIT: My dog isn't a vegetarian either. :)
Don't even get me started with all the fake meat and cheese vegetarians eat. lol|||I'm a "carnivore" and am very happy with it and respect people who are vegetarians/vegans. They are some dedicated people, I could never be like that, LOL. In fact, my best friend is a vegetarian, and another one of my friends is too.
The only problem I sometimes have about vegetarians/vegans is when SOME get all iffy when somebody is talking about slaughtering animals, eating meat, etc. My best friend is, as mentioned, a vegetarian, and whenever somebody as much whispers "kill xxx animal, slaughter, etc", she moans loudly and covers her ears. It does get annoying very, very quickly, even when there's nothing bad with the animals involved(I was once telling something to her about some people who tried to free pigs meant for slaughter but got killed in the stampeded of pigs that ensued, and at the words "Pigs in a slaughter house" she did what mentioned). But again, this is probably a very, very, very small sample of people.
But those are only some
The diets for dogs, however, I will NEVER agree with. I hate them.
Anyways, I respect them, I could never commit to that kind of lifestyle.|||I am am meat eater, but I would never judge anybody for having a different opinion. I eat how I eat and you eat how you eat. I think variety is what makes the world interesting.
No vegetarian or vegan for dogs or cats, we have a choice they don't.|||I have no ethical problem eating meat. In fact, I think hunting has brought me closer to nature and humanity. Puts you in touch with death a little, and with life, to kill an animal and eat it. It's actually a beautiful process. I'm glad to know that I'm the kind of person with the strength of character to be an omnivore.
For me, it had come to a point where I either needed to be involved with the death and processing of a food animal, and feel that responsibility, or become a vegetarian. I didn't like the sanitized process where animals are slaughtered and neatly packaged so people can feel removed and comfortable. We turn living, breathing animals into little filets that are food- they're completely unidentifiable as muscle tissue that once allowed an animal to move. It made me question whether I had the guts to take an animal's life myself to eat. I made up my mind that if I didn't, I needed to be a vegetarian. To me, it's responsible omnivorism. This has nothing to do with my views of others, it's just a personal feeling. I went hunting last year with my boyfriend. I didn't get the chance to shoot anything, but I did help process the entire deer (two actually). It's not clean. It's a bloody, greusome process. That first night I got out my cook book and made a whole roast with all the trimmings. If that animal was going to die (a young buck), I'm going to respect it in a way I know how by making the fanciest, most delicious meal I can. It was amazing. I've now started to train my dog in bird hunting and I know that the first bird I kill will be amazing, and I'll have a lot of respect for that animal. For me, that's how I justify eating meat. That's how life works. Carnivores and omnivores eat prey animals. To deny that and be vegetarian, to me, is to deny a little of our humanity and our place in the natural world. That being said, I think those prey animals deserve more respect and acknowledgement from us.
Sorry if that was a little long, and too in depth. It's something I had been thinking a lot about last fall, so I wanted to share. Interesting question!
Added: I respect people who are vegan and veg- I have a lot of friends in those camps. It's never been for me. I am a bit against not thinking through these issues and eating one way or the other just because it's fashionable or its how you were raised.
For dogs- No way, no how, not ever. Tantamount to abuse.|||ha, i'm one of ehawlz veg contacts :)
i'm not sure she was talking about me, but hey, i'm here, so i'll answer!
well being a vegetarian, my opinion would be that it's pretty awesome.
I've been veg for over 3 years, and i love everything about it. I'm not supporting the horrible conditions the animals were raised in (growth hormones, small pens/cages, not fed proper food), i'm not supporting the brutal way they were slaughtered, etc. plus it's so much better for the environment. cows release a HUGE amount of methane in a day, and it's very bad for the environment. not to mention the acres, upon acres, upon acres of land consumed by animals destined for slaughter. plus, it just grosses me out to be eating something that was once full of life...or was deprived a life.
but honestly, i don't go standing on my soap box. if someone asks, or if someone makes an ignorant comment about vegetarianism, i'll pipe in. but i'm not the one sitting there going "EWW, you're disgusting! do you have a heart? you're a horrible being!" when someone orders chicken. it's their decision. i don't support it, but it's not my business either.
and, surprise, i'm for some hunting. *some*. i had an acquaintence who i volunteered with who was a huge hunter. he hunted the overpopulated deer population, and used as much of the deer as he could. he made leather out of the hide, treated the leather with the deer's..insides..and ate the meat. i'm obviously not a hunter, so maybe some of those terms were wrong...but you get the point. i was totally for what he was doing. he was going to eat meat anyway, and his way of killing the animal was much more humane than what goes on at slaughter plants, and he completely respected the deer, and used as much as he could. people that trophy hunt...different story..but again, i won't get on my soap box.
so yeah...that's my opinion!|||People can choose whatever diet they want. Humans are omnivores, giving us flexibility in what we eat; which is we people can choose to eat a omnivorous or vegetarian diet.
I respect the decision of someone to eat whatever diet they choose.
A vegetarian diet, just like an omnivorous diet, can be healthy when done right and unhealthy when done wrong.
A vegan diet is simply not ideal for a human. I respect the choice of adults that choose such a diet; it's their life, their health, and their choice. But I disagree when people eat a strict vegan diet while pregnant or nursing, or feed an infant or young child a strict vegan diet; during these crucial development stages is not the time to be messing around.
.|||I'm not a vegetarian. In fact I'm a big, big fan of meat, and I happen to strongly dislike all but about 8 types of vegetable. Nothing I like better than a fresh steak, charred on the outside & bloody rare in the middle. For the most part, due to health consciousness & cost, I eat chicken, fish & lean wild game...but if I want a treat, I'm going to an expensive steakhouse :)
Still, I respect other people's choices. I could care less what's on somebody else's plate, as long as I can eat my meal in peace. I take the same approach to veg*ism as I do to any other "lifestyle choice" that I don't happen to share. Be it religion, sexual orientation, political leanings, WHATEVER....as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, by all means, DO WHATEVER MAKES YA HAPPY, just stay off your d*mn soapbox :)
I don't go out of my way to belittle or ridicule veg*ns, or convince them to just 'try a bite' of something meaty & delicious. I expect the same respect in return. If my lifestyle choices are treated with respect, I'll go above & beyond to treat that person's with as much respect as I can.
Those that insist on preaching are doing absolutely nothing to advance their cause.|||Anybody who'd call themselves anything that starts with "V" is a weirdo....
Just kidding!!!
But...vegetarians and vegans are all weirdos...but they know it, which makes it okay. Weirdos who don't know they're weird...now those are the weirdos to look out for...
possibly having to do with its effectiveness in dieting? ANY ideas please! thanks!|||Science Fair has nothing to do with vegan-ism! It is Science not a lifestyle.|||Given the interest in green living, maybe it would be more effective for you to look at fossil fuel consumption or greenhouse gas emissions. Compare and contrast one or both of these things for a standard American diet and a vegan diet. If you want to do some extra work, consider adding in the pescetarian and ovo-lacto vegetarian diets as well.
If you want to look at diet in particular, you could look at the rates of different cancers and/or obesity rates. All of these things are going to be based on doing research rather than experimentation, so be aware that if you are supposed to do an actual experiment, you might want to change your project a bit. For example, you could compare and contrast how people feel before, during, and after a meal that includes meat vs. a vegan one. Carefully plan the meals so that they are on par from a caloric standpoint.|||How about comparing a vegan to a meat eater and see who gets sick the most, has more energy, is healthier, etc.. :)
How long did it take?
What is your approximate conversion rate?|||EARTHLINGS documentary.
I've converted 6 people to vegetarianism just by showing it, and 11 to veganism.|||Oh goodness. People have their own beliefs and convictions. If someone wants to eat meat,then let them eat meat. No one is making you eat a cheeseburger,because that would be rude,and be tempting you to go against what you believe. Have the same respect for others as you expect to get.|||This style of life is YOUR choice, people will dislike you more for trying to convert them . Just as you would hate me if I tried to get you to eat meat.
Live and let live.|||I have turned 3 people vegetarian (i'm vegan btw) i turned my boyfried vegetarian by showing him the 'meet your meat' video by peta.
In my english class, for coursework we could to a speech about a subject of our choice, i chose veganism and its benefits for the people, the environment and the animals. after that 2 people in my class became vegetarians.
but i don't go out of my way to turn people vegetarian/vegan. Its their own decision.
hope i helped
x|||Tell them the truth about where their food comes from. Especially if they're a vegetarian, tell them that cheese is made with veal stomach, and veal is a byproduct of the dairy industry, and how horribly cows and chickens are treated.
If they eat meat tell them about all the antibiotics that are fed to animals as a precautionary measure, to keep them from getting sick from the unhealthy environment they are in. Tell them what horrible quality meat they are eating, how the chickens whose breasts they eat cant support their own weight,
Show them those PETA videos of animal abuse after you've got their attention, but if you do it when they don't care yet they'll frequently just resent you for it.|||No I haven't because I don't try to.
They don't force me to eat meat, I don't force them to eat vegan.
You would wan't someone to respect your choice, so why not respect theirs?|||The best way is to simply encourage and support someone who is trying to make the change themselves. I've never tried to get someone else to go vegetarian just randomly. I do find that my cooking encourages some people to eat vegetarian for at least one meal, though.|||Ok, you're an idiot. You don't CONVERT people to vegetarianism/veganism. They make the choice themselves. Let people eat what they want. Jeez, and vegans say that meat eaters are the controlling ones. At least we leave you alone and let you make your own choices.|||I've never tried.
Personally, I just don't care that much.
edit- "confused person"- the person who asked this question is a meat eater.|||Just watch Food Inc.
That should do it :]
or if you want a more graphic/shocking approach, you can watch the mini-documentary Meet Your Meat :P|||I don't think I've ever 'converted' someone...but I do occasionally remind lovers of hot-dogs and chicken nuggets exactly what their 'meat' is made from. I don't consider it my place to change anyone's mind about whether or not they eat meat, but I do like to ask people to consider what it is they're putting in their mouths. I would prefer to see my family and friends eating fresh, free-range chicken that had a decent uncaged life without being kept in a barn or cage, than battery farm/barn meat. It would be great if they decided not to eat meat - but that is their decision, and not mine.
I'd rather see change of industrial farming practice towards ethical care of the animals we rear and eat, than a whole world of enforced vegetarians.|||I'd never go out of my way to try to force someone to do something they didn't want to do. :/ I have influenced some people to rethink, but not really on purpose. Some people are really honestly just curious about it and not rude about it all, those types I'll tell them whatever information they're curious about. Sometimes those people will end up going vegetarian or even vegan themselves. I'm not going to waste my time on someone who could give a crap less and will only hate me for being "preachy", but I'm not going to hold back info that someone wants to know either.
most people here so far have said India. I have a feeling they might be confused with vegetarianism, because vegetarianism is quite common in India. I agree with FM, though, there is a huge usage of dairy in Indian cooking, as that seems to be embedded in the culture (they worship cows for her generosity in producing milk - albeit naturally, no hormones or antibiotics or anything, at least back in the days) and commonly use clarified butter (ghee), regular butter, milk, and milk-based sweets in their cooking.
If it wasn't for the enormous emphasis on meat, I'd agree with FM that non-Indian Asians probably have the greatest commonality of veganism in their diets. For the most part, as far as I know, their vegetarian foods are all vegan (veg. sushi, veg. chow mein, etc).
To be entirely fair, though, I can't say for sure that I know the answer to your question. I can see East and Southeast Asia as likely candidates, and California, US, and um, maybe the Greek people (think falafels, hummus, etc), but other than that, I don't know. Sorry.|||In India.|||lndia all the way!!!!|||India i think!|||I say India|||India.|||Berkeley.|||It would not likely be India, since Indian food contains lots of dairy.
It would more likely be people who are Buddhist vegetarian, since non-Indian Asians generally don't consume dairy products.|||yep India|||India. Most of their restaurants are vegan and vegetarian. In certain parts of the country, you won't find a single trace of meat in restaurants and supermarkets. Also, for religious and ethical reasons it's a country that embraces vegetarian and vegan foods of all sorts. : )|||veganism has nothing to do with starvation. poverty has everything to do with starvation. jeez why are people so ridiculous.|||Also note, 50% of the worlds starving people live in India, lets hear it for veganism!
Nearly 50 percent of the world's hungry live in India, a low-income, food-deficit country. Around 35 percent of India's population - 350 million - are considered food-insecure, consuming less than 80 percent of minimum energy requirements.
Nutritional and health indicators are extremely low. Nearly nine out of 10 pregnant women aged between 15 and 49 years suffer from malnutrition and anaemia. Anaemia in pregnant women causes 20 percent of infant mortality. More than half of the children under five are moderately or severely malnourished, or suffer from stunting.
Describe different aspects of vegetarianism/veganism and how it benefits us health-wise. What's so great about organic vegetables and soy products? What are the major risks we're avoiding by not eating meat?|||there are no risks to not eating meat in fact people were never supposed to eat meat in the first place thats why meat rots and doesnt digest in our systems because its flesh your way healthier not eating meat and with lower cancer rates then a meat eater|||I wouldn't know. I love all animals... Some just take longer to cook...|||First off, there is no major risk taken by avoiding meat. Just as long as you have well balanced meals and get a proper amount of protein, you will be fine. Many people are mistaken that meat is the only food that has a decent amount of protein in it. This is not true. The following foods are a great source of protein for those of us who choose not to eat meat:
almonds
black beans
brown rice
garbonzo beans
kidney beans
lentils
cashews
pecans
lima beans
peanut butter
pinto beans
seitan
soybeans
soymilk
yogurt
cottage cheese
sunflower seeds
textured vegetable protein
tofu
veggie dogs & burgers
There are also a lot of things in meat that are bad for you. For example, 75% of the calories recieved from meat is pure fat. Meat is also high in cholesterol. Cholesterol causes heart attacks, strokes, paralysis, and other fatal diseases. Also note that if you eat meat you consume hormones, drugs and other chemicals that have been fed to the animals before they were killed.
Now about organic vegetables. Why are they so great? Well to begin with, they are friendly to our planet. They are also free of pesticides and chemical residues which are harmful to our health.
Finally we move on to soy products. Soy foods are a good choice because they're high in vitamins, minerals, fiber, and polyunsaturated fat (the good fat). Soy is also a good source of protein and a great alternative to meat, which is high in saturated fat (the bad fat).
And that's all folks! Hope I helped and good luck :)|||Vegetarians, generally, simply don't eat meat. Most people who call themselves vegetarians are lacto-ovo vegetarians, meaning that they still consume animal products such as milk (lacto) and eggs (ovo).
Similarly, a lacto-vegetarian will consume milk and dairy products, but refrain from eating eggs. An Ovo-vegetarian will do the opposite.
Vegans (sometimes called strict vegetarians) do not eat any animal products. This includes meat, dairy products, eggs, gelatin, honey, etc.
Most vegans and some vegetarians refrain from purchasing clothing made of animal products such as leather, suede, or feathers.
All of these types of vegetarian diets are generally healthier than diets including meat. Lower risk of cholesterol (cholesterol is found heavily in animals), cancer, and heart disease are just a few of the health benefits of a vegetarian diet.
Most produce is grown with the use of unnatural pesticides and fertilizers and other chemicals to yield more crops. Organic vegetables are grown without any of these, and are not genetically modified to produce bigger products. Organic products are much lower in nitrate and pesticide residues, which are harmful to health. Studies have also shown that some nutrients, such as Vitamin C, are higher in organic produce.
Soybeans are a good source or protein. They can be a staple for vegetarians to get protein in, and are included in many fake meats. Soybeans are legumes, and all legumes are healthy. They have the same health benefits as those of vegetarian diets.
Avoiding meats means never worrying about consuming Mad Cow Disease, or other food contamination only found in animal products. Going vegetarian also helps the environment (and "reduces your carbon footprint") as it is much worse on the environment to raise and slaughter livestock than it is to grow food from the ground up.|||well most of us like me we love and care for animals and we believe in Animal Rights. But there are alot of deseases meat have like umm for 1 thing the meat from cows you can get dont now the name of the desease but something cow sry no help with that. But that why most people vegan and all ok.
Or is it all just willfully ignorant people looking to cause trouble?|||It really depends on the day, but it seems for the past week or so there have been a multiplying of trolls(most are probably the same person with a different name). This area is never troll free, but non seem to stay around all that long(children have very short attention spans).
I have been around here since March and there is always a dedicated troll(one than post questions over and over). Most of these trolls think they are original, but its all been done before. There basically seems to be three types of trolls; the ones that are meat eaters posing as vegans(I think there have been about 10-15 of these, if you count all the Ashleys), the troll that has an unhealthy infatuation with vegans not being vegan(I can remember around 5), the ones that just post harassing questions in gereral(too many to remember).
You best bet is to ignore them, they will eventually go away. If you are looking for a place without trolls you can go to www.veggieboards.com.|||I tried to use this forum as a resource. I cook for a lot of veggie's & vegans & as such was interested to see if anybody would help me out with basic stuff, which brand is better than which brand, what variety of something tastes better etc.
I got 1 reply, which, brilliantly helpful it was as it solved the dry cake problem, but im still stuck wondering about a whole heist of other products ive never tried using before.
Seems that not even the interested are welcome in here, which is a shame.|||ha. I'm not sure anymore. I think this is a place to discuss recipes and where to buy vegan and vegetarian products.
It seems though, that certain people are coming here to harass vegans.|||Who let all the freakin' trolls in here?
These people are in dire need of a hobby....|||Oh, some days there are some great questions. I keep coming back, as frustrating as it is, because of the people who are genuinely interested. Today we happen to be inundated with trolls.|||I think it's a little bit of both.
Trust me, I know where you are coming from, and it is really annoying to hear others trying to degrade us just because of our beliefes. However, there are people who actually want to learn about the subject. These are the open minded people on this forum, and i really enjoy answering these questions.
-So just keep your head up, because there are those who are actually willing to learn.|||It's half and half. Some people have real questions and some are just willfully ignorant people looking to cause trouble.
It seems like you want the willfully ignorant people to answer this question just to see how ignorant they can get. That's always fun. =]|||Yes|||meat is delicious!!!!!!!!!!|||The latter.|||lol
It's lame I know. Products of humanity...the uneducated bully|||Both but mainly the latter....|||Yeah, do you brush your teeth? The toothpaste you use contains animal byproducts as well as the floss.|||OH me me !!! Pick me!
Why do picketing PETA members get so violent and trespass into property and vandalize so much? Why is this? Don't you find this is setting back your vegan cult? I mean your vegan way of life?|||no questions..........just live and let live and don't try to force your veggie lifestyle on others|||No. Eat Meat.
mine is probably omg why dont you eat meat your so weird, or can you ea bacon? haha just asking for expieriences here plz?|||As a 13 year old, it's always immature boys asking, "So, do you still give blow jobs?". . .Uhm, really? And when people comment, like the first answer, that God put animals here for a reason, so you're Un-Christian. No, I'm just respecting his creations. I mean, killing is in the 10 Commandments, right?Love thy neighbor? Or when people say, "I would die without meat!!" No, you wouldn't. Vegetarian of 2 years, vegan of 1. You will live. "Well meat taste too good!"I compare that to a druggie saying, "Well, I'd stop doing drugs if it weren't so fun!!" And, honestly, with all the bad things in meat, might as well be an addiction.|||I think the most annoying to date is:
"If you don't like meat, why do you eat meat substitutes that look and taste like meat? That makes you a hypocrite!"
Because it's not about looks or taste, you moron.
This is the only thing I have actually been attacked for in real life. In reality most of my meals do not contain meat substitutes, but that is besides the point. There is nothing hypocritical about getting close to the taste of meat without the actual killing, if it is the killing you oppose.|||I have a few!
"Do you eat fish?" - This one really annoys me. Vegetarians don't eat fish! Of course they don't, it is a living animal. Fish isn't exactly a vegetable is it? xD
"But why? I mean, an animal in the slaughterhouse still gets killed anyway so it doesn't make a difference" - People don't seem to understand that vegetarianism is about reducing the demand for meat.
"You don't know what you're missing" - Not really a question, but it annoys me all the same.
Haha I think I've came across as some angry vegetarian in this answer xD I don't have a problem with other people eating meat, and I don't judge them for it - it is their choice to eat whatever they want to. However I just hate when they ask me really patronising questions and judge me for not eating meat.|||I guess any questions about a vegan "diet" are annoying because the definition is being corrupted rather than made stronger and so people constantly misunderstand veganism.
Just so everyone is clear on veganism:
"The word 'veganism' denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to end the idea of animals as property and exclude all forms of intentional exploitation of, use of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing, research or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, including people and the environment.
In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."|||When stupid people find out I am a vegetarian and ask a retarded question like, "Do you use stamps? If you don't eat meat, you shouldn't use stamps, either, because the glue comes from animals." I want to say, "I don't eat stamps, you idiot," but I explain that my choice to be a vegetarian is because I don't want to eat animals and that stamps and envelopes do not actually contain animal products (http://www.ivu.org/faq/products.html ). They think they can convince me that I should eat meat. I don't understand why so many people that don't even know me care what I eat.|||I don't get annoying questions; I get extremely rude and inconsiderate (lets not forget ignorant) statements from idiots telling me that my life style is wrong, when I'M THE ONE who's done all the research and I'M THE ONE who is exponentially healthier than they are.
Like, really?
The worst is when they tell me that I'm wrong and being vegan is unhealthy. Ha. Lets see who dies at 60 from diabetes.|||"God gave us dominion over animals, does that mean you are not a christian"
My response :
God also gave us dominion over our children, does that mean you eat them too?
OR
"It's natural, Lions do it so why can't we?"
You know what else is natural, Cannibalism. Have you heard of the Island Nuku Hiva? Cannibalism is common. And may I add, Lions usually suffocate their prey and hunt for it. We breed them and (Veggie rant Mode)
I think most of us have gone threw the veggie rant in our time eh?|||i get annoyed when people ask you why, then when you start to tell them about factory farming and vivisection they say that you should just block it out to be normal and not cause a fuss. or when they say eating animals is "natural" but have absolutely nothing to back up that statement. or when someone tells you they LOVE animals while they are eating a chicken sandwich. i hate the ignorance.|||No one directly asks me about that stuff, except here. The questions that drive me a bit batty are the ones along the lines of "Did I eat well today... 3 poptarts and a tub of yoghurt for breakfast, a Brand X pre-fab meal for lunch and Brand Y pre-fab meal for dinner" (all packets) and the "Did I eat to (never "too") much today - 3 crackers and a pickle". !|||'so when are you guna give this up & be normal again.?'
like seriously.? **** you if you can't respect my desicion. i'm always guna be vegan, deal with it. -.-|||Why don't you eat meat?
Why don't you like meat?
Do you eat chicken?
In that order.|||Questions about protein/plant sentience/lions kill ttherefore we should/ we have canines therefore we HAVE to eat meat.|||The most annoying question of all is what do you eat? or Do vegetarians only eat salads?Like,Seriously|||"Would you eat an animal that died from natural causes?" My pets died from natural causes but I never ate them o_o|||I think the most annoying question might be "do you eat fish"|||My favorite: "um.... really?!?"
yes.... really.|||"i though the animals were only there to eat"?|||They only ask me why I don't eat meat.|||Whats a vegan|||this one
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;鈥?/a>
I've been vegan for about 4 1/2 years. In that time it seems like my depression and anxiety have gotten worse. I take B12, iron, and a multi, and also try to eat a balanced diet, but I'm worried there may be a connection.|||Yes. Tryptophan is imperative to the creation of serotonin, the main chemical implicated in mood disorder. Make sure your eating eggs, soybeans and cheese. The multivitamin contains the other necessary vitamins to synthesize it in your body. Alternatively, you can buy this amino acid or get 5-HTP, but who wants to pop pills.|||Consuming the correct food is vital for your wellbeing. You can try supplementing your diet with acai berry, it is not only a widely tested and acknowledged weight loss produce, it is a superfood too. There is a risk free trial on offer at http://savoly.foodplanonline.info I've been using it for two weeks now and it is certainly having an effect!!|||This is exactly why I'm a firm believer in human beings as omnivores, not herbivores. Our species wasn't designed to receive daily sustenance from seaweed and soy. Vitamin supplements can help but can't match the real thing. One of the best things that helps me boost dopamine and serotonin is lean animal protein. The brain loves it. Seafood is ideal as well.|||I am not an expert but I am going to say YES>.
I support your desire to be Vegan but encourage you to eat FREE RANGE EGGS
I keep my own hens to make eggs, they have a wonderfully happy life and their eggs are super healthy.. since there is no rooster -there are no dead baby chicks or anything like that what might concern you
I totally suggest eating them for protein and important amino acids.
Maybe the French word for vegan or vegetarian or something. Lots of words. Any slang would be greatly appreciated.|||V茅g茅tarien
v茅g茅talien (vegan)
Then we've got words to describe the different vegan sects. Like most French I look at these people with a total lack of understanding of what could drive them to these extremes.
Granivore (germinated grains)
alimentation vivante (germinated, pickled raw vegetables)
Fruitarien (only fruits and reproductive part of trees)
Ess茅nien (vegetables and milk products)
anopsologie (raw food, as long as it smells / looks pleasant, except wheat and milk products)
Liquidarien (only juice of fruits and vegetables)|||I assume you're aware that there are very few vegetarians in France, that most French people do not understand the "rules" of vegetarianism (for example, they will frequently offer you chicken because it's not a "real" meat) and that veganism is practically unheard of. Thus there's not a lot of lingo or slang (although it does exist, and some of it can be found on the websites below) so depending on what you're looking for it may or may not be out there.|||French don't offer chicken... Maybe some fish, but never chicken!
I have been vegan for almost 4 years. During that time, my bipolar disorder, GAD and self injury have gotten worse. I make sure to get enough B12, iron, and omega 3s, but I've always wondered if somehow my veganism was making me worse. I DO NOT want to start eating animal products again, but I wonder if there's any truth to my fears. Please post links to back up your claims if at all possible.|||Without knowing your diet, this is just speculation! But:
You don't mention protein, so I'm thinking that you might not eat enough of it. Proteins are the building blocks for neurotransmitters, so a low intake could be effecting your mood.
First, make sure that you're getting at least the RDA of protein. Then I'd try a higher protein, but balanced, diet like the Soy Zone.
At the very least, adding an EXTRA soy protein shake once-a-day for a month can't hurt and could go a long way to cover your bases.
Hope this helps and best wishes!
i'm already a pretty strict vegetarian.
i'd like to become vegan but i dont want to deprive myself of essential vitamins and minerals. what types of foods should i eat to make sure i'm getting enough?
any suggestions?
thanks.|||Well, there's nothing milk and eggs provide that plant foods can't, except for saturated fat and cholesterol.|||Go to your Library! Two sections you should be looking at are 613.2 (ish) and 641.56 (again, about there).
Not that your library will definitely have books in this section, but they will at the very least be able to get you some through a library loan system. Two books I just now found are listed below!|||www.pcrm.org|||If you want to become vegan, please read the articles found here:
http://www.veganhealth.org/sh
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http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=b鈥?/a>|||The only nutrients you might need to give some thought to as a vegan are B12, which you can get in fortified foods like nutritional yeast, soy milk, or supplements, and Omega-3 fatty acids, which you can find in flax seeds, walnuts, or supplements made from sea plant sources.
Just eat a variety of whole grains, fruits, veggies, beans/legumes, nuts and seeds and the rest should be well taken care of.|||have you heard about pulses .. they are the closest match for protein supplement with white meat protein.
And vitamins i think any leaf vegetables can provide you good amount of vitamins...
well check this
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vegetar鈥?/a>
Hope my answer helped you :)
Good Luck ...!|||There's no deprivation involved. The only difference between vegetarianism and veganism is milk and eggs...
Eggs are good for protien. Milk is good for calcium. Both offer B-12.
Protien and calcium are found in beans and green veggies. B-12 can be found in fortified foods - like cereals or soy/rice/almond milks. Eat a lot of veggies, drink your soy, and you'll be fine.
If you're worried, take a multivitamin. You can order vegan ones from the links below - Deva are my faves because of the low price. (I order from this store all the time.) Everyone should take a multivitamin anyway, veg or not! :)
Best of luck if you decide to go Vegan!|||carrots
I am a young adult looking into a career with animals involved, and was curious about the whole vegan/vegetarian lifestyle. I feel horrible about eating animals, but like the taste! I have stopped eating red meat, and am currently only eating chicken and vegetables..I'm not sure what's involved with the vegetarian lifestyle and would like to know more...|||There isn't really a vegetarian "lifestyle." You just don't eat meat.
(Although vegetarians are more likely to recycle and belong to groups like the Sierra Club, and less likely to drive a large SUV.)
Vegans don't eat meat, dairy products, eggs, honey, gelatin, whey, or any other animal byproduct, and they usually don't wear fur, leather, wool or silk.
A vegetarian or vegan diet can be much healthier than a traditional one, providing you consume a variety of foods like beans, peas, tofu, dark green vegetables, whole grains and fruits.
In response to the argument that humans are biologically designed to eat meat, most human teeth are designed for grinding- like a horse's. Canine teeth could just as easily be for tearing the husks off of corn, or piercing vegetable rinds.
Besides, biology isn't destiny. Biologically, women should probably have a baby every year. We evolved beyond that.
The reasons for adopting a vegetarian diet have less to do with any warm fuzzy feelings for animals, and more to do with environmental concerns, (deforestation to create more foreign grazing land) global hunger concerns (It takes SIXTEEN pounds of grain and soybeans to produce one pound of beef) and health concerns. (Animals raised for food are fed increasingly harmful amounts of pesticides, hormones, and antibiotics.)|||vegans dont eat any animal products. we are made to eat meat. its called the food chain.|||This is my philosophy on vegetarianism. Humans have been eating meat long before the factory farms and genetic manipulation. Our mouth is designed to eat meat. A moral way to eat meat is to buy chickens and cows from free range ranches or to only eat meat from animals you have hunted.
Your teeth are pointy, is that for cabbage?|||There's a lot more to vegetarian eating than just veggies. Almost every meal can be made vegetarian. There are a lot of real tasting meat substitutes out there, so if all you like about meat is the taste, you might try them.|||Look at your teeth in the mirror... see those two pointy one's on either side of your mouth? Those are for tearing flesh. If it tastes good, EAT IT!|||I have recently switched to a vegetarian lifestyle and I have to say, I don't feel all bloated and gross after eating anymore. It is a great change for me. I would get "Vegetarianism for Dummies". It is one of the best books I've read on the subject. All I can say is, don't switch to the junkfood only diet instead....a lot of people make that mistake. There are many "levels" of vegetarianism, so you will want to read up about it a great deal (tons of books out there) and decide which will work best for you. Good luck!|||Vegans, only eat raw fruits, vegitables, grains,nuts, ect.ect., and don't eat meat or animal products of any kind. They also don't wear or own any products made from animals.|||Well there is nothing wrong with eating red meat.as it was given to us to consume.There are only limitations on types of animals that are not for consumption,such as a camel,elephant,horse etc.not eating beef at least one time a day can actually cause health problems such as different types of vitamin deficiencies|||Veganism is not eating any animal or animal product, nor using any animal product (i.e., leather). If you have any of these items, and wish to convert to veganism completely (not just diet-wise), then it is acceptable either to use them until they fall apart, replacing them with vegan items, or to give them away.
Vegetarianism includes eating no animal flesh, but dairy and/or egg products are OK. Most also avoid leather and such, as well.
I recommend getting some books on vegetarian lifestyle, and possibly looking into a few cookbooks for ideas on cooking. One thing you need to ensure is proper nutrient intake - a multi-vitamin can help, but is not the best way. Eat a variety of leafy greens, legumes, and other healthy foods. Vegan cooking isn't actually all that hard. I frequently adapt recipes to make them vegan and/or low fat.
Good luck!|||I would say veganism would be too difficult to manage in life...you'd always have to make sure your food didn't have any animal products in it, and it just seems too complicated. Go have a hamburger, instead. ^_^|||Becareful with veganism. They tend to get sick VERY easy..and can be very weak. If you like the vegatarian lifestyle go for it..
Its not hard at all. Try using the same recipes but instead subsitute the meat with firm tofu. I am a vegatarian..But because of my lack of protein I eat chicken. (I do feel bad haha) I really dont know how to explain the 'life style.' I just live it..
Sorry...Doubt that helped at all.
Look for recipes online..there are loads.|||Look through the websites listed below to get some decent info (just to start with).
If you want the taste without the cruelty check your grocers freezers for products from Boca, Gardenburger or Morningstar Farms as these are readily available and can take care of cravings<g>. Just to point out a few specific products that 'fool' people:
MS Farms frozen hotdogs
MS Farms breakfast pattie (been told often it's Boudin)
MS Farms chik nuggets (just as nasty as McDonalds<G>)
Gardenburger riblets (just like a McRib<G>)
Boca bratwurst (not really like a brat but people *do* think it's meat based sausage)
Worthington foods potpies (just as yucky as Banquet)
I'm a long time Vegetarian and we do *NOT* get sick easier than deathmouths! I consider myself proof of that as males on my paternal side die young (under 50) and I've past that point way back-now the oldest ever on that side (records go back to 1400's)|||I would check into: http://www.goveg.com/order.asp
It's a FREE vegetarian starter kit! :)
If you still like chicken, Morningstar has fake chicken nuggets that are great! They also came out with chicken strips for enchiladas and stuff :). I've been a strict vegetarian for over 2 years, when I began I was afraid I'd miss it too, but with so many options and recipes via the internet, it's been really great! Best of Luck! :)
Since veganism doesn't allow the use of animals for any purpose wouldn't that mean they couldn't use plastic. As plastic is derived from petroleum which comes from decayed plant and animal matter. Also, people on here who say they are vegans are you really vegan. A true vegan would not use a car as it contains glue which comes from animals. Do you use a car or products with glue.|||Vegans do what they can. It's pretty much impossible to be 100% vegan. But why criticize a life style that does good for the most part? People do what they can to live as cruelty free as life as possible and I think that's something that should be respected and not criticized.
Judging by all your questions, you seem to be very much against veganism, but why? How does veganism hurt the world? I've answered your other question and showed you how it helps, so I don't understand why you choose to hate that life style so much. For someone named "partiot," it doesn't seem very partiotic of you to be against something that in the end would help people for the better.
If you'd like to know how it would help people for the better, you can always browse through the question you posted last and reread my answer as well as some others.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;鈥?/a>|||Glue is no longer made from animals. At least most isn't. Report Abuse
|||Listen, there is only so much a person can do. It is generally accepted that people have to FUNCTION and go to work. We're doing more for the Earth and our health than most people, so back off! Why do you even CARE? Or do you just have to complain about something?
To be quite honest with you, if it wasn't necessary to use a car, I would not. But living in the middle of nowhere, it isn't really practical to walk to work. A vegan does as much as they can within the constraints of society!|||Vegans try to do as much as they can... Using your logic since veganism cannot be achieved 100% we should just not try at all.
So maybe when a child has cancer, doctors should not try to make them well since everyone just dies anyways. Or since there will always be racists we should just give in and start telling racist jokes and discrimate against people.
Vegans try to live their life the way they want to see the world become.. I don't understand how you can fault people who are only trying to make the world a better place.|||I've heard the petrol statement before.
The difference being that a vegan using petrol could not possibly have any impact on the animals lives as they died 200 million years ago.
As for car glue. I'm sure you are right, cars contain glue made from animals. This does not invalidate the general belief that vegans have.
Citing extremes of an arguement is often a sure sign that you have no logical aguement against it. Are you are this stage ?|||Vegans don't do it for you, egomaniac, keep that in mind. They aren't trying to prove anything. In a perfect world, those things wouldn't happen, but shallow, closed minded people like you are the ones who thought it was a good idea to use animals for the production of fuel.
Please don't come on here hating just because you know how terrible eating animals are and you are too weak minded to consider a lifestyle change and that pains you, or else you wouldn't give two squirts about vegans.|||They can't even eat animal crackers. :)
I am decideing i want to become a "vegan"... i have been seaching online for reacipes and health tips... do you have any recipes you could share with me? and any tips to help me stay away from meats? website of the basic vegan food prymid, and other things about veganism??
<33 thanks so much for the help!!!|||Congrats on deciding to go vegan! There are so many delicious dairy and meat replacements available these days that make it easier to be vegan.. see http://www.vegcooking.com/guide-favs.asp for some examples. Not all faux meat / dairy products taste equally good, so buy a bunch of different products and do some taste testing to find your favorites. The sites below have a lot of other info to help you get started. Good luck!
Health info:
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vsk/
http://goveg.com/optimal_vegan_nutrition鈥?/a>
http://www.tryveg.com/cfi/toc/?v=08right
Vegan food pyramid:
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vsk/f鈥?/a>
Transition tips:
http://www.vegcooking.com/makingthetrans鈥?/a>
http://www.tryveg.com/cfi/toc/
Recipes:
http://www.chooseveg.com/vegan-recipes.a鈥?/a>
http://www.vegcooking.com/searchRecipes.鈥?/a>
http://www.cok.net/lit/recipes/|||Well done on choosing Veganism!
It's very easy to find the recipes online there are a few good websites and videos on youtube giving you plenty of ideas. Report Abuse
|||vegweb.com|||i tried that too, i had a lot of soy protieen and you need to take supliment pills. its not good to go straight into being a vegan. i was a vegetarian before being a vegan, and i quickly went back to being a vegetarians. i have this book called the starving students vegetarian cookbook. it has a lot of recipes that are good without meat and then you can use egg supliments for the egg if there is any of it in there. But beware the deserts are terrible, except for tofuti cuties, they are fantastic
gooood luck =]|||Vegan or vegetarian- vegan means no leather shoes, car seats, certain soaps, etc. Vegetarian is food only. Good for you though. Try wikipedia.
I have a best friend that wants to be vegan and she has tried about 10 times but always goes back to eating meat and diary because she knows NO vegans exept me and I moved 3 months ago to a different state. She IS overweight but loves animals as well. I was raised vegan so I can't really help her so I was wanting advice from people who have been in the same shoes... thanks!|||Me and my friend have recently become Vegan, but have been vegetarian for over two years. We've both found that while it is difficult to maintain a similar lifestyle, making your own food helps. After all, you can still have chocolate, fudge and all the unhealthy foods, but just adpated versions.
Viva - Gifts for Life, have many Vegan confectionary options.
http://www.viva.org.uk
If your friend does manage to maintain Veganism for a while, she will find that she know longer craves meat and see's it as an animal.|||Many be could settle with going vegetarian first. She may just be overwhelmed with the big transition from eating whatever she wants, to eating more restricted.
When I first decided to go stop eating meat, I tried going cold turkey into a vegan diet. I tried and failed, simply because I wasn't prepared. I didn't know what to cook, as my vegetarian recipes were limited. I wasn't used to reading labels, so it seemed like a big feat to look for everything from hidden animal ingredients to more common ones like eggs/milk.
I lasted about a day before returning to my old ways of eating meat. About a week later I decided to try vegetarianism. I built up my recipes, got used to checking labels, adjusted to not eating meat etc. I've been vegetarian for awhile now, and recently gave up milk(for health issues). Giving up milk now is much easier than it was years back.
Maybe she should set up a time line. Perhaps it would be easier if she tried vegetarianism for a year. After a year she could then start transitioning to a vegan diet, spend six months cutting out milk, and then six months cutting out eggs. A slow transition will give her time to adjust to not having milk/eggs to eat. I gives her time to build up her recipes and become familiar with what she likes to eat that is vegan.|||If she wants to be a vegan, then why does she need to "ween" (you mean "wean") herself off of veggies? And for that matter, why can't she eat diaries? Are her diaries made from leather or something?|||She should take it one step at a time. When she is ready she can do it. There is no right way to go veggie this is a very personal journey. Tell her to read about it and go on line and find vegan/vegetarian groups so she can talk, ask questions and get advice from others.
Here is a step by step which is basically how I did. Keep in mine I didn't really plan mine out it was a slow process that took me a few years to get thru.
1. cut out all red meats
2. cut out all poultry
3. cut out dairy
4. cut out sea foods (of course I was never a big seafood person so this was basically cutting out tuna salad)
5. stop wearing and buying leather, suede, silk & stop eating foods that contain hidden animal ingredients like jello, marshmellows etc
I want more information on veganism.
Is there any particularly good websites, books or other resources?
Thanks
scottie|||Links:
http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/vega鈥?/a>
http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/who_鈥?/a>
http://www.ehow.com/how_2044075_become-v鈥?/a>
Books:
http://www.rawveganbooks.com/product_inf鈥?/a>
http://www.amazon.com/Vegan-Sourcebook-S鈥?/a>
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Vegan/E鈥?/a>|||http://www.veganoutreach.org/|||I'm fond of books because I can refer back to them.
Idiot's Guide to Vegan Living is great
Sarah Kramer's cook books are all fantastic. How it all Vegan, Garden of Vegan, La Dolce Vegan
Vegan Planet is good.
How to Become Vegan is good.|||try the vegetarian /Vegan society.|||Websites:
Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) http://www.pcrm.org/
Joel Fuhrman, M.D. http://www.diseaseproof.com/
Preventive Medicine Research Institute (Dean Ornish, M.D.) http://www.pmri.org/
Vegan Action http://www.vegan.org/
Vegetarian Resource Group http://www.vrg.org/index.htm
UN Report "Livestock's Long Shadow: Environmental Issues and Options" (PDF version) http://www.virtualcentre.org/en/library/鈥?/a>
Books:
The China Study http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html
Vegan Freak http://veganfreak.net/
Becoming Vegan http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Vegan-Com鈥?/a>
You put a baby in a crib with an apple and a rabbit. If it eats the rabbit and plays with the apple, I'll buy you a new car. ~Harvey Diamond
|||Animals are my friends and I dont eat my friends.|||Objectification reduces sensitivity. Thus cows are called beef or head of cattle, pigs become pork, sheep mutton. The screams are muted.. and living creatures become plastic wrapped packages.|||It's more about animals in general:
The question is not "Can they reason?" nor, "Can they talk?" but rather "Can they suffer?" -Jeremy Bentham|||Quotes from a more bizarre view:
In the strict scientific sense we all feed on death - even vegetarians. ~Mr. Spock, Star Trek, "Wolf in the Fold"
I won't eat anything that has intelligent life, but I'd gladly eat a network executive or a politician. ~Marty Feldman
From a more thinking and serious view:
"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy
One farmer says to me, "You cannot live on vegetable food solely, for it furnishes nothing to make the bones with;" and so he religiously devotes a part of his day to supplying himself with the raw material of bones; walking all the while he talks behind his oxen, which, with vegetable-made bones, jerk him and his lumbering plow along in spite of every obstacle. ~Henry David Thoreau
"I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity." ~ Ecclesiastes 3:18-19
i was all mad because i went to a school for a tour and they had pizza, nd they had no vegitarian pizza, i was telling this to my friends and they told me i was being unreasonable becasue there aren't that many vegitarians.
Anyway, i just wanted to have the details if that ever comes up again.|||United States is about 2.5% Veg in Canada it is 4%|||In 2003, a Harris Poll indicated that there are about 5.7 million vegetarians in the U.S. (I couldn't find any more recent statistics, sorry).
Vegetarians do make up a pretty small percentage of the population, but many meat-eaters are interested in vegetarian foods, too.
"According to ARAMARK's recent nationwide survey completed by over 100,000 college students, nearly a quarter said finding vegan meals on campus was important to them."|||According to the Vegetarian Resource Group that conducted a survey by the Harris Interactive Inc. in 2003 recorded that around 2.8% of people in the US call themselves vegetarians with up to 1.8% of people calling themselves vegan.
These numbers are estimates and can be widely varied.
Also, the poll found that between 30-40% of all people are in the market for vegetarian foods even though they are not vegetarian themselves.|||There are no good statistics. The numbers you hear vary widely. People have different definitions for what it means to be a vegetarian, so even if they told a pollster they were, it wouldn't mean they didn't eat poultry or fish.|||Airport counter person "It seems like everybody is vegetarian these days".
Not everybody is vegetarian but it's for sure they are moving in that direction fast. It's in the air, ya might say.
Tell the school board to try a veg item and see if it is popular. To what I'm seeing, people want to evolve, but they need the easy and convenient opportunity to do so, so try to get it on the menu and it will fly, fur sure.
I found, right next to the 鈥榝resh鈥?chicken, pre-prepared chicken slices with breaded seasoning etc. ready to take home and cook. They looked exactly like chicken, but actually were fake vegan chicken slices! It didn't even say 鈥榲egan鈥? but the ingredients spoke for themselves. I wonder if the staff didn't realize or if this is a new product display method. The meat and dairy companies have been fighting very hard and diligently to keep the dairy alternatives such as soy milk, soy cheeses, soy yoghurt away from their products; tofu has to be kept away in the deli section with fake meats etc., but in recent years they've been losing since they getting closer or even mixed together (I know dairy companies now make soy drinks & yoghurt... hm... perhaps they have started making fake meats too, planning ahead).
Have you noticed? Where you shop, are they separate? I think the closer they get to each other, the more interchangeable they will become; it鈥檚 a good thing. What do you think?|||Well, I'd say that it was good, as a more accepted and widespread thing. But it seems kind of unnappealing to me- I mean, to have to look at all of the carcasses when I wanted my meat substitues? Sorry, but no thanks. However, it's quite a great step, assuming that it's really what's happening. I know that where I get food they're seperate, more for the benefit of the vegans, though- we don't want to have to pick through things and find out which are vegan and which aren't.
And aso, couldn't it, instead of being a move for vegetarians, be a sign that more and more of our trusty vegan companies are being bought out? I know that Tyson (the supposed KFC torturer of chickens) owns a natural foods company, and animal testers also own some vegan cosmetics companies- so couldn't they be combining things because now the omni companies have nothing to lose?
Overall, though, I don't think that vega*nism is becoming more accepted. Look at the other posts in these forums!|||Did you even attempt to proofread what you wrote? You refer to all the food that you consume as "fake". Keeping this in mind, fake is a term implying cheap substitution, or knock-off of the original or real item. So what you put in your body is merely a cheap substitution or knock-off for what you are meant to put in there. Just imagine if they came out with imitation McDonald's.... people who are against the restaurant chain would probably flock, quite literally in THROVES to this new haven. Because they're not supporting the multi-million dollar chain anymore... OH NO!... they're supporting a much more ETHICAL fast food production. Just think of all the toxic fumes billowing out of the factories that produce your "fake" food. Still hungry?... go grow a garden and be done with you, I say!!!|||The products are kept separated in my town. There is a Health Market section right next to the produce area. This is where the vegan and organic products are found. This is actually the only part of the store that I shop in. The whole rest of the building is worthless to me. I am happy to see more options though. We still have a long ways to go.|||Yes we are becoming more accepted! I've been veggie for 50 years and back in the bad old days (in Texas beef country) it was common to be assaulted for being a veggie. It's been a long time since that's been a risk!
As to grocers... I've noticed that Kroger (in particular) has started removing the coolers from their "Nature's Market" sections and moving the veggie kind products to the regular coolers in the store! It drove me *nuts* until I griped to a store manager who told me they didn't discontinue the products but 'mainstreamed' them! I was told that sales of Tofutti 'sour cream' and 'cream cheese' have skyrocketed and they are now being carried in most stores and are now available to *all* their stores!
Lowes (not the hardware chain a regional grocer) now carries those products with the 'regular' dairy and has Lightlife and Yves alongside the Hormel etc stuff (I'd rather they still be in produce<g>). The Safeway stores I've been in lately have also started moving their (limited) selection to the 'normal' parts of the store.
Super Target is the only place where I've seen the products get moved into a 'special' section (even the MS Farms stuff). A manager told me their sales of the products increase when they move them but I got the impression that he was lying his *** off!
I like having them mainstreamed with the sole exception of moving the analog products to the meat aisle! I *don't* want my food in that part of the store!|||yes i've definitely noticed, i went to a mainstream supermarket for the first time in ages and saw vegan cheese, yogurt, etc, right in the dairy section!|||living in the midwest in smaller cities id say its only been the last 10 years that a person could find organic foods on a regular basis without going to a specialty shop let alone vegan stuff, just the last 5 years or so i,ve noticed more variety in health foods and vegan products, however no real intergration as of yet. the meat substitutes still hang out with the tofu by the bean sprouts.am happy to say that the soy milk is in the same cooler as the milk! Im not a veg. or vegan but do enjoy trying new stuff so i am excited by the new products stores carry now.|||yaw dood,, at many restaurants,, some of the items will say vegetarian and such|||Many vegetarians, and most vegans that I know, are such kooks that it makes it difficult for me to accept it beyond a "well, ok for them" level.|||i won't eat fake meat, someone smart said it along time ago
if man made it, I won't eat it, if it tastes good, spit it out.
the man is 92 yrs old and still alive.
so yea go for it sounds good, congrats, more food please|||They have the bacon and veggie burgers right next to frozen burgers.They have the soy milk right next to the milk,they also carry rice milk.They also sell mock duck,mock pork,and mock chicken.They sell "chickenless" nuggets.I'm just waiting on the tofutti cuties!|||Hm, I haven't noticed meats and vegetarian/vegan alternatives being mixed together at the grocery store I go to, but I guess I haven't really been looking. I think it's good that vegetarian/vegan diets are becomming more accepted, because with more options and choices of things to eat, there will be more vegetarians and vegans! I'm not a vegetarian myself, but I do know that a lot of people say that vegetarian diets are healthier than ones with a lot of meat. Technically, eating veggies is more efficient than eating meat, because as you move up the food chain, energy is lost. And as more people become aware and concerned about environmental problems, they will also switch to a "green" diet because it is more environmentally friendly.|||The grocery stores I patronize keep the vegan and soy products separate. I can hardly go anywhere NEAR the meat section becuse I get queasy at the sight of the raw, poor, hapless creatures under plastic wrap. If my store carried new fake meat in that area, I would never know it. Personally, I like my products separated. On the other hand, for those who do purchase meat, it's a great way to introduce those products to that particular group of people. Perhaps they will give it a try and maybe the fake meat will become more mainstream! :-0
With all due respect here, just because you refuse to eat animals does not mean that people will stop slaughtering them and McDonald's will stop serving Big Macs.|||aha people say this all the time and that's not what we're trying to do, all though it would be great if that did happen. we are vegetarians/vegans mostly for ourselves because we believe that slaughtering animals for meat is wrong. we don't want to support it and if people follow our example, that's great, but we don't expect them to. some people become veggies simply for health reasons as well.|||thanks for the 10 points =) Report Abuse
|||I choose vegetarianism because it's a healthier lifestyle and better for the animals, the environment, etc. The production of meat will decrease as more people become vegetarians, but I still don't see how it's anyone's business but their own why someone chooses to live the way they do. It's their life, not yours, and who're you to berate it?|||It will reduce the number of animals killed. Some people just believe it. And, it is also healthy to eat vegetables, tat's why some people choose to eat non-meat food becos they can kill two birds with one stone.|||It's all about doing my small part.
It makes me feel better to know that I don't support these terrible practices.|||I don't have a 'point' to it. People can eat all the Big Macs they want. I find them gross on a number of levels, but I don't expect that to become a majority opinion anytime soon.|||i myself isn't a vegetarian, but my friend is a vegetarian AND a vegan (doesn't eat animal produced things). she's a complete freak with animals. she forced her brother to free a beetle in a cage he kept it in.
vegetarians are people who don't eat meat because they feel that it isn't right to eat meat.
i used to think the same thing: it's not going to stop people killing more animals.
they just think it's GROSS.|||if more become veggie, less animals will be killed. think about it, if the meat sales go down, they dont kill as fast, if meat sales were up, much more killings would be necessary to keep up with demand.
its simple economics, really.|||Well I do get what ya mean, but for me it's just because I don't want to be a part of the whole thing. I love animals to much to eat them I swear if I had all the time and space I needed I would save every single animal. That's my opinon on it though.|||That's like saying "well just because you feed a few starving 3rd world country kids it doesn't mean people are gonna stop starving."
=/
(Oh btw, I'm not comparing the world hunger to animal cruelty to all you anti-vegans. My point is that even though you're not gonna save the world entirely you can at least help a few suffering souls and hopefully inspire others to do the same. Especially when no one else cares.)|||MmMMmm boy I wonder if McDonald's is open right now...|||why does anyone do what they believe is the right thing? just because a lot of people do something i dont agree with, won't make me do it too.|||because I love animals so I don't eat them. it's one small way I can be the voice of the voice less. In other words, "let it begin with me".|||at least it is healtier than McDonald or ..........|||maybe people want to be healthier
feel better
or maybe some people don't like meat.
it doesn't have to do with people killing animals or Mcdonald's. it's for their own well-being.|||they know it will not stop them but it also makes themself feel better knowing that they are not filling themselves with slaughtered animals. Some others refrain from wearing clothes that may come from animal.
There are also activist that try to stop these people from killing animals but i strongly doubt that they can stop the world from slaughtering animals.|||It's a moral choice. I believe all creatures have a soul, therefore, I would no more eat an animal than I would a human being. Animals feel all the same things we do, fear, cold, pain, it's human rationalization that makes it acceptable to accept animals as a food group.|||I'm not trying to stop others from eating meat.I became vegan for personal reasons and because I can't support the cruel practices used in factory farming.I still couldn't eat free range meat either,because an animal still had to die even though it wasn't needed.you are missing the whole point of veganism,it isn't to stop animal use 100%,but to do as much as you can to help reduce the use of factiry farming.You have an "all or nothing" attitude,just because you can't end all of world hunger doesn't mean you shouldn't try,just because you cant abolish racism completely doesn't mean you shouldn't try,just because you can't save all animals doesn't mean you shouldn't try.If you aren't part of the solution(veg*nism) then you are part of the problem(factory farming).|||Well, you're wrong. If enough people went vegetarian (the numbers are rising, BTW), McDonalds WILL reduce the numbers of animals slaughtered and Big Macs sold.|||By being a vegetarian I can let others know what I think of the suffering that animals go through. If you convince enough people not to eat animals there will not be as many animals killed if not as many people buy meat.|||Each person is a part of the whole.
We can each make a BIG difference by refusing to have any part in the meat industry. Imagine if everyone had the defeatist attitude like you have, and thought "what's the point?" Nothing would ever be achieved. Great things are achieved by individual people deciding to make a difference. Over time, the amount of people who think the same grow and grow until one day a radical difference in the world is made. Each person is a significant part of that difference, however long it takes for the difference to have the worldly impact that you talk about.|||I have never been happier than I am now that I am a vegan. I don't feel deprived of anything - there are so many different foods and spices and flavors to explore and try. I know that I am not harming animals - that I am doing my own small part. I don't push veganism on anyone, not co-workers, not family, not even my own 5 year old daughter. But I share vegan creations all the time and hope to inspire others to eat less meat and animal products. I know that the world will always rely to some extent on animals, but I know that the vegetarian and vegan populations are growing, which means that fewer animals are suffering. Knowing all this makes me a happy person.|||The point of vegetarianism/veganism..
For the good of our health.
For the good of our home, mother earth.
For the good of the animals we share earth with.
Everyone has a part in this world, if we all do our share it will make the world a better place to live right now and in times to come. We can all do something. Some people donate money to good causes, some people recycle, some people walk or bike to work to help cut down polution and for exercise, some support organic farming, some do selfless things for others, help those in need, pick up other peoples trash, and many many more things I could go on and on. We all have a part and every little bit counts cause it adds up in the end. I do as much as I can for the good of this world. Most people do what they can, in their own ways.
Tomarrow I am sure big macs will still be served, probably next year, and 10 from now but if the number of people who stop suporting the meat, dairy and egg industry grows, if everybody does their part then maybe in the future big macs will be history! who knows, time will tell. This doesen't go for just big macs... But for everything in this world. People fighting for what they believe has done great things for our world.. Its why slavery is no longer alowed, Its why women can vote, and is why people have more freedom in the world than ever. And much much more.
Merry christmas everyone!
Preferably punk songs, but I'll take whatever you've got.
I know Propagandhi has done some - two that I know of. What else is out there?|||More punk-like, other than Propagandhi & what others have mentioned:
"Vegan Freak Theme Song" Rat & K@ (鈾?
"FTN" Goldfinger (pop-punk)
There are also a lot of Goldfinger songs that aren't necessarily about ar, but could be interpreted that way. Rat & K@'s song can be downloaded for free from the Vegan Freak Radio page.
and other genres:
"Animal Kingdom" Prince
"Cows With Guns" Dana Lyons
"Vegan Nutrition (Potluck)" Disciples Of Discipline
"Be Healthy" Dead Prez
"Columbia Is Bleeding" Nellie McKay
That's all I can think of at the moment. :)|||Contravene - Inhumane Cage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSkIS9221鈥?/a>
Contravene - In The Name of Convenience
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjEcKKWtL鈥?/a>
Disrupt - A Life's A Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3NHZFPhg鈥?/a>
Flux Of Pink Indians - Sick Butchers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnAqdzNhz鈥?/a>
Conflict - Meat Means Murder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt1Jyh8NC鈥?/a>
Dirt - Seal Cull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww3CGY5WT鈥?/a>|||There have been some great suggestions already. I'd like to add that "You are not Collateral Damage" by Strike Anywhere is one of my favorites. Hope you enjoy it!|||Silverchair has a song, called,"Spawn Again" on the Neon Ballroom CD.
The Lead singer,"Daniel Johns" is a vegan.|||Rise Against- Ready To Fall
Here's the video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmoB2svMl鈥?/a>|||Goldfinger is a vegan punk band who support animal rights.|||Meat is Murder - The Smiths
why do you dislike or like vegans?|||I love veganism (duh), but I dislike a lot of vegans. There seems to be so much elitism and holier-than-thou-ism among vegans. Those who look down on omnis rub me the wrong way. Those who look down on dairy-eating vegetarians straight up piss me off. I don't think I'm better than anyone because I'm vegan. I think I do more for the environment and animals, sure, but that doesn't give me the right to judge others. Most vegans would argue that they don't want to be judged for their diet decisions. Then why the heck do so many of them judge meat-eaters and dairy-eaters? It strikes me as such a double standard. :/|||I love vegans.
I'm a vegetarian.
Personally, I would love to be a vegan
if i had the resources. I live in a dorm so sometimes
it's too hard to find foods that are vegan.
So I'm a vegetarian but I don't drink milk.|||vegans are amazing. almost everyone should be vegan. it isnt right for some ppl though.|||everyone to their own. if people wanna choose to be vegan then thats fine by me. i personally eat meat and would never try and force my views or opinions on anyone and wouldnt expect that done to me either.|||vegans rock!(im vegan)
actually whatevers fine, im not gonna like someone better than someone else just becuase ones a vegan and the others a meathead,
so i wouldnt say i like vegans any better than anyone else,|||To each thier own. I just don't like being preached to, either one way or the other|||Vegans are passionate people who want to make the world a better place for humans and animals alike.|||I like some vegans and dislike some vegans for the same reasons that I like or dislike anyone. We are not a different species, you know.
My feelings about veganism is that it's the right choice for me and I'm happy that I live this way.|||i really dont care one way or the other as long as they arent on me for eating meat and other "non-vegan" stuff. to each their own. if ya wanna be vegan, more steak for me lol.|||LOVE vegans.
like vegeatrians alot.
HATE most meat eaters. (well, they hate me first)
:D|||I like vegans very much. They have the discipline to bring their behavior in line with their beliefs, something that few Americans seem to be able to do.|||i love dairy products and can't live without my mandatory three glasses of milk everyday. Also, cheese, paneer, ghee, butter, cream. Cream finds its application in desserts and pastries (yum!) and cheese in pizza. I know there are vegan versions of these products available but you can't afford to b finicky when you travel.
Also, I love eggs|||I absolutely ADORE vegans and vegetarians, i wish their were more of them. Mainly because that leaves more meat on the meat counter for me......and i L-O-V-E most all meats.
Only one i have tried that i don't like is Lamb.
I like it, boiled, broiled, baked, braised, bar-b-cued, dried, fried, grilled, salt cured, smoked, any way i can get it. As a matter of fact, i just finished off some homemade baked chicken wings, half with BBQ sauce, half with hot wing sauce.
homemade crinkle fries, and celery with ranch dressing........
YUMMM!!!!!! (lickin' fingers)
krystan|||I am vegetarian, but find that too difficult to be vegan.
One thing I can't let go are cakes!
I can stop eat egg, stop drink milk but I can't stop eat cakes!|||I don't love 'em, I don't hate 'em - for the most part. I think people should be allowed to believe what they want to believe, but if you get all on my case about how the chicken I'm eating was murdered or something like that - I might stab you with my fork.|||Pure Vegan foods without optimal quantities of Milk or Egg(Lacto/Ovo vegetarianism) are NOT good for good Health(non-availability of Essential Amino-Acids in correct quantity and Proportion and non-availability of Vit .B12.)
I ask this, because I'm a lacto-ovo-vegetarian who would like to go vegan. Unfortunately, though, I'm having a really hard time giving up my Coke! I know that sugar is sometimes filtered through charred animal bones, but often when I read the lists of ingredients for various sodas, I notice that they're sweetened with corn syrup instead of sugar. Of course, corn syrup is bad for you, but as far as I know, it's still vegan. Does anyone here have any info?|||Hi Tangerine! I got tired of always retyping my answer about the subject (since it comes up so much<g>) so here's my cut'n'paste answer (with newer comments to follow<G>)
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I'm not even sure they're vegetarian in many cases! If they list sugar as an ingredient you'd need to be concerned with bone char being used to filter the sugar.
Fruit flavored ones may contain unlisted glycerin as part of the flavoring per FDA regulations.
Cola's are allowed to have (among other things) musk oil, civet oil, pepsin and other animal based enzymes and/or flavorings as part of legally unlisted natural flavorings per FDA regulations. Be warned that those same rules legally allow makers to 'lie' about the "trade secret" ingredients!
What you have to ask the manufacturer is "Does your product contain any animal ingredients, or any ingredients processed with animal products, or any ingredients that originally derived from an animal source and/or are any products originally from an animal source used in the manufacture of your product?".
I've NEVER had a major soda producer give a straight yes/no answer to that question! This is the question you ask ANY food producing company if you want an answer will hold up in court. The last soda company that gave me a straight answer of no to that question was the original producer of "Ginseng Rush" back in the '70s.
IMHO soda can't be trusted! If you'd like a shock try asking that question to juice companies<evil grin>. Many juices are processed using animal based enzymes (sorry to ruin your day<evil grin>).
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I really need to do some updating to that<G>, since you mentioned bone char (in a roundabout way<g>) I should point out that bone char (legally speaking) is a very *specific* type of burned bones! A company can 'legally lie' to you by saying something like "None of our sugar is processed with bone char" when they are using animal sourced carbon that doesn't meet the narrow legal definition of bone char. Also remember that thanks to the ethanol craze HFCS is losing it's price advantage so 'real' sugar is making a comeback!
You're knowledgeable about lying politicians<LOL>, keep in mind that they learn their tricks from corporations!|||no becasue soda is not from animals|||It's not healthy but it's vegan. The bone char isn't exactly hurting animals either; it's made from found bones. Most sugar isn't made with it anyway - no beet sugar is and only some cane sugars.
There's even a cake recipe where you can swap the eggs for coke.
Edit: Supposedly Coke brand has some sort of fish additive in it, but then someone on a forum said they emailed the company and it isn't true. Could just be an urban legend. Email the company and ask them; it might take you a few days to get a response. You might go with a different brand. I'm not sure what's available in your area but you can get organic colas.
Ok, I'm thinking the fish thing is probably true: "None of the soft drink brands of The Coca-Cola Company contain ingredients derived from mammals or poultry." was stated here on their website http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/conta鈥?/a>
There are so many rumors surrounding Coke that it's hard to find any information, but I think that gives you a pretty good idea of what's in it. Like I said, there are plenty of other brands, but I would just email the company.|||All ingredients of a soda never goes through an animal remains whatsoever. If they do, the FDA will require them to list that ingredients.
As far as I know, you don't have to give up your coke, its not made of animal.|||i have never heard of sugar being filtered through animal bones...i think this is just something someone told you so you wouldn't drink it anymore...|||I don't think Coke is even vegetarian! This was never brought to my attention..until greenghost had brought it up in one of his answers.I never drank soda after becoming vegan,because after becoming vegan I really started watching what I ate..animal products and stuff like high fructose corn syrup,MSG,white flour,etc.
I'm sure greenghost will be here to give you his standard answer soon<G>.|||There are natural sodas and colas made with evaporated cane juice or non-bone char cane sugar that you might be able to find instead of Coke. It's more expensive, but it's not as nasty as high fructose corn syrup.
And to a prior poster: Yes, it's true. Some cane sugars are filtered through bone char. But beet sugar never is. Look for turbinado sugar or evaporated cane juice to ensure your sugar is vegan.|||Soda makes you age much faster and makes you feel like sh*t.
It raises the acid level in your blood. Just start drinking healthier things.
over how i can help promote a vegan lifestyle?
how could i get donations and how could i acquire food for my vegan dinner which is gonna be my final project.
thanks!
also any idea how i could get a mentor?
thanks!|||That crap needs to stay out of the classroom. Would people care for the whackos in the NRA promoting their views? No. |||You should go to your doctor and get a full exam, body fat, blood work, everything. Then go on a vegan binge for 3 months. at the end of the 3 months go back and get the same exact tests ran and compare the results. Is it really healthier?
|||yeah man aren is actually right, try that and youll proabably get an A
Monday, February 6, 2012
After going to a workshop on this very subject, I took their advice and went completely "cold tofu" (I was a lacto-ovo veg at the time). The idea was that by cutting down bit by bit, you would give those products power and engage in a psychological battle with them.
Also, because I found the process daunting, I decided to try veganism for just 3 weeks, after which I would switch back if it wasn't going well. It made the switch more manageable - after all, anyone can do three weeks, right?
I'm still vegan 1.5 years later, so these tactics worked for me. Good luck!|||Quite simply:
Baby steps.
If you have been a lacto-ovo-vegetarian for a while, you shouldn't have much trouble making the adjustments in your diet to vegan.
Just make sure that your diet is balanced and healthy.
Good luck!|||I would start cutting down on the dairy and substitutiong for alternatives...soy milk in the coffee, rice dream instead of ice cream, etc...until you have it replaced. I think with any diet changes, you can't just cut stuff out, you have to replace it with something. SO just evaluate your diet and see which areas can be substiuted out. It also depends on why you may want to switch...there are now a bunch of food products that have made dairy 'vegetarian', like organic milk won't be available while babies are fedding, so you aren't 'sacrificing' the babies for your milk consumption, also 'rennet free' cheese, which doesn't require the enzyme form the animals bowels to make the cheese, (Horizon organic cheeses are one example). Good luck ,and don't forget to drink soy milk fortified with vitamin D, right now our only sources of it are cow milk that is fortified, or the sun (vitamin K, which is metabolised into vitamin D by your skin). if you live where you can't always get some sun, you need to supplement.|||It really depends on the person. I found that by limiting the products and then, when I felt ready, completely eliminating them from my diet was what worked best for me. Understand that milk proteins actually are addictive and by quiting "cold tofu" you are probably saving yourself undue distress in the long run by getting your mild withdrawal cravings out of the way all at once. Just remember if you fail the first time, try until you get it right! If there is anything we can do to help you go Vegan feel free to pm me, or one of the other Vegans on the boards. We will be happy to answer any questions you have.
Good luck!|||The way I am doing it is with baby steps... I have cut out whole forms of cheese and dairy completely. No cheese sandwiches, no cheese raviolis, no egg salad, etc.
I am slowly using up my stock of pastas, soups, and frozen products and whatnot that have whey, milk solids, etc. and replacing them with vegan alternatives...
While I do occasionally still use a few products that have some trace elements of animal products, it's progress...
My goal is April 1 to be animal free!
I'm a little sad I can't kick the trace animal products as immediately as I did when I first became a vegetarian, I'm slowly gaining new habits, skills and information that will guarantee my success and continued health.
Good Luck! Also, remember veganism is more than just a dietary choice, it is a lifestyle. If you don't cut out the animal products in the rest of your everyday life (leather, wool, etc.), you're just a strict vegetarian.|||I started last year. I went "Cold Tofu" (thanks Matt - I love that comment!!) for Lent last year.
The important thing is to play with your food. I know your parents told you otherwise. But food is fun. If you're not having fun, you're wasting your time.
Tinker. Toy. See what really rocks your world.
I found the only thing I missed was pizza. Gooey, cheesy pizza. You have to watch it with vegetarian cheeses. They often contain milk so they aren't suitable for vegans. I picked up a rice cheese without reading the ingredients. It's got milk in it. Yet it's labled NON DAIRY. Go figure.
It will be a bit of a tweeking process finding your perfect substitutes. I tried a number of soy ice creams and really didn't like them. Rice Dream wasn't so hot. But Rice Divine is the BOMB. I found so many soy milks loaded in sugar, I ended up buying a soy milk maker. I love to make my own tofu and soy milk. It's also great for nut, grain and rice milks.
I love to make fake eggs benedict, tofu scrambles, fake egg salad. Egg replacement was not difficult for me. A little turmeric and nutritional yeast - I'm good!
I found I enjoy "raw food" versions of cheese than many of the vegan cheeses that are on the market. Mix a little tahini with some soaked almonds or cashews, a little nutritional yeast. Spread that on toasted pita and add other topping. It makes for a great pizza.|||Having been vegan for 5 years, the toughest thing i found was knowing what ingredients were often included in vegetarian food, but that are not vegan.
Casein is a milk protein, gelatin is an animal product, "natural flavors" could be anything, "artificial flavors" could be anything, sea cucumber is an animal, most Thai food has anchovy paste, and most Indian food is not vegan.
Peanut butter Cap'n crunch is vegan, but I wouldn't eat it.
PETA used to have a list of manufactured vegan products that one could use to check things out.
You can find vegan restaurants on line, use them, keep them in business, so we can all use them.
Good luck, and be flexible until you are comfortable. Don't preach, rather lead others to be more accepting of other vegans through invitations to wonderful dinners and conversation.|||Sometime back I also tried to make this tranistion. If your doing it for health issues, based on my experience and the growing body of documented evidence, I would not reccomend it long term. For the short term I think it has the benefit of detoxing your body and can provide assistance with controlling or defeating a disease.. But long term, in addition to needing to at least take a b-12 supplement, I found the diet to be lacking. Not just in taste, which it certainly was for me, but overall nutritionally as well. And I was careful to make sure I was eating a well balanced vegan diet. I felt great at first, but physically I could tell that I was lacking something in my diet after about 9 months. I added organic egg whites and dairy, and shortly thereafter I felt like myself again. So I certainly would not go vegan for long term health reasons. And if you are young and still growing, a vegan diet absolutely is not in your best interest. The diet would be deficient for you and simply lacks what a growing young body needs to thrive. However, if you are going to give it a shot because of ethical reasons, I commend you. I hope you will at least go in for regular blood work when you first go vegan to determine what vitamins and minerals the vegan diet is depriving you of so that you can take the necessary supplements.
Take a look at these web sights. I would research the vegan diet extensively before implementing it, as there are so many long term risks associated with it. The best of luck to you!
http://chetday.com/vegandietwarning.htm
http://chetday.com/strictvegandiet.htm|||It depends on how much dairy and egg products are currently in your diet, and in what forms.
If you're used to eating scrambled eggs, buttered toast and a glass of milk, for instance, it will mean more of an adjustment. If your milk and eggs are usually just in other foods like baked goods, it will be much easier.
For some foods, simply cutting out the non-vegan components is really easy. A veggie sandwich on vegan bread is just as good as a veggie sandwich with cheese and mayo...for example. When you can't just cut out those ingredients, use vegan alternatives:
There are several brands of vegan alternatives for cheese, butter, sour cream, etc. that taste and act the same as the real thing, but they tend to be more expensive and less available depending on where you live. *Although, I have yet to find a vegan "cheese" that melts in just the right way on a pizza.*
Soymilk (as well as rice and almond milk) is becoming more available and much cheaper these days, thankfully. These alternatives do have a slightly different taste, but do quite well on cereal, in coffee, etc.
Eggs in recipes have many alternatives. In most baked goods, a half of a banana will replace one egg pretty nicely. There's also powdered "egg replacer" you can buy, or potato flour and other powdery things that mix with water to replace eggs.
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Start phasing in these alternatives little steps at a time. Start buying soymilk in 1-quart cartons, since larger quantities can go bad before you use it all. Cut out the non-vegan components as I mentioned above, then determine if you miss them enough to need to buy the alternatives.|||instead of milk, soy milk (like silk), oat milk, almond milk, coconut milk and rice milk (look it up, their many types). You can no longer purchase regular cake and cookies, but vegan versions can be made or bought.
http://veganlunchbox.blogspot.com
http://food.pinkhairedgirl.com/
read to get an idea what vegans eat.
I am in no way claiming it to be natural, I believe we here meant to be vegetarians, not vegan, or maybe eat small amounts of white meat.
My point is I keep seeing answers saying it is impossible to be a healthy vegan or a healthy teen vegan and I would like to know why you think that? I mean there are a lot of healthy vegans. I will respond to answers so please keep watching since I will try to respond to all answers.|||I'm so jealous of you! My parents wont let me be a vegan, only vegetarian. I admire vegans so much. Anyway, on to an answer....
Because people think meat and dairy products are the only way to get protein, essential and nonessential amino acids, iron, b vitamins, vitamin d, zinc, and calcium. Plus, most people grow up around meat, and believe it's natural.|||Because most people have been raised in meat-eating families, and they were raised to believe that it's the healthiest way of living to eat meat and other animal products.|||I think like you said, it can be disastrous if done wrong. But other wise it is fine and healthy.|||I mean, you can perfectly survive on vegetables and etc., but it's good to get some protein too. Veggies and fruits keep you strong, taste good, are healthy, and don't get you fat. But protein is very much needed in your body at one point or another.|||I think most people are just misinformed. The meat industry has done a wonderful job of convincing people they need meat. Those of us who have done the homework know that we do NOT need meat to be healthy. We can get all of the vitamins, minerals, proteins, enzymes, and nutrition we need from a plant based diet. Like you said, and with any diet, it has to be well balanced and consistant to be healthy, but I am FAR better off healthwise since giving up meat many years ago. Most people just choose to remain blissfully ignorant to the true facts. They find it easier to let some other entity dictate their health and food choices for them. I prefer to be the champion for my own body, and not rely on misinformation from someone whose sole purpose is to jump in my pocket, and who has no concern about my health. Again, its really all just about ignorance to the facts.|||If you want to talk about a natural diet and totally forget the animal welfare issue for a moment, the most healthy diet would be one of wild game, nuts, and fruit.
Humans where never designed to eat farmed meat or consume milk products...we would have eaten eggs though like lots of omnivores do in the wild.
The trouble is that unless you are a hunting person there is no point eating game as most of it is farmed nowadays as well :P
I can't drink milk etc as me and my kids have lactose intolerance so we have calcium enriched soy milk...we don't eat meat but we eat our own home reared eggs. My 3 boys are well muscled active (tooooo active lol) healthy kids on our almost Vegan diet, so long as you pay attention to nutrition ( as you should WHATEVER your diet) there is no reason to miss out on any nutrients.
The meat eaters who stuff their faces full of McD's and triple cheese pizzas will all start to wonder about how healthy veganisum is when they are suffering from obesity and heart problem :P|||"Why do people find veganism unhealthy?"
May be 'cause usually people do not understand about nutrition.|||I used to be a vegan. I cannot speak for them all, but I found cooking became very difficult. For instance, vegan cheese and soy milk didn't make my recipes taste very good.
There is the vitamin B12 issue, but also the substitutions of vegan cheese etc may raise concerns of how healthy they are?
I'm not saying they're unhealthy but it's definitely abstract to simulate something like cheese from a vegan source. I am currently a vegetarian and this works well for me from all directions. Veganism was just too tricky for me personally.
A lot of the anti-veg stuff, in my opinion, is slightly based on guilt and they feel we're pointing out their shortcomings. Whether we are or not is up to the individual, but I think they think were trying to say what they're doing is wrong and perhaps it hits a raw nerve.|||maybe because people keep saying vegans are unhealthy, over and over until it becomes common knowledge.|||People find veganism and even vegetarianism unhealthy because of several reasons but most stem from 1 key point. They are mislead, perhaps downright brainwashed into thinking it's the only way. Unfortunately the world as a whole today is very commercialized and capitalistic. The meat, dairy and egg industries are huge multi-billion dollar corporations. In a world driven by technology it all comes back to greed and advertising. The "standard American diet" is a sham to begin with and highly unhealthy, yet we are taught to eat this way from an early age.
It's all about consumption and profit. The American diet has changed dramatically over the years. Just 50 or so years ago, the average American family ate some sort of meat 3-4 times weekly. Now it's eat eat eat, get your meat every day in every meal. Portions are also drastically larger than they were back then.
Being a healthy, strong vegan is not hard at all these days. We have it easy compared to the brave souls choosing to live this way decades ago. There are so many animal free options and replacement items for cooking and baking that make things a lot easier for us.
Take a good vegan multivitamin and eat lots of legumes. Nuts and flax seeds are great and if the natural low fat in a vegan diet becomes an issue healthy oils like olive and grapeseed are very good for you in moderation. Veganism isn't as difficult as people think but the simple fact is that most know nothing about the lifestyle. People are opposed to things that are different and fear the unknown.
A little research might change some minds. The cruelty of factory farms is atrocious but morality aside, the food industry fills animals full of dangerous drugs and hormones that end up in the meat. They also send sick animals to the slaughterhouse. Even cows with late stages of cancer or open sores are allowed to be labeled USD grade A.
If we lived in simpler, cleaner, honest times things would be different. But we don't and I do not see this changing anytime soon. As it stands now, the meat industry makes products that no educated or sane person could possibly call healthy.|||Because they are not taught or knowledgeable on this topic. 82 % of people, including chef;s think all they could eat is fish, pasta and or salad.|||> Why do people find veganism unhealthy?
They do?
Who?
Not me.
I, in fact, do believe that humans are meant to be 'vegan'. By 'vegan' I mean, natural human; without meat, dairy, etc. Sure, as a 'wild' human you might come across some bugs or an egg in the spring, and eat clay for trace minerals etc., but basically free of animal food.
B12 is found in one-celled organism's poop. Where ever you find one-celled organisms, you will find B12. In your mouth, in your digestive track, in fermented foods, on surfaces all over the place, in dirt, they are everywhere. B12 deficiency is not commonly found in vegetarians or vegans, but is commonly found in fat overweight American meat and junk food eaters.
We do not need protein.
All we need are essential amino acids.
That is why there are called "essential", because we cannot produce them in our bodies. We need them. Why do our bodies not make these? Because they are very easily found outside the body. I.e. plants.
We can find these amino acids in protein (chains of amino acids, our body breaks protein down into amino acids to utilize and send to different parts of the body to form protein), but amino acids can also be found separate too (not chained together).
From my research it seems to me that humans are best suited to consuming a diet of mostly fruit. Fruits have pretty much all we need. They are packed full of amino acids, for instance. Yes, that's right, fruit is a great source for amino acids (or as the lay person might say "protein").|||i dont think its unhealthy, but it is lacking the right amount of vitamins found in red meat, and the amount of protein needed daily to preform daily tasks. sure, nuts provide SOME protein, but not enough.|||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHvMAUDH鈥?/a>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=鈥?/a> -T. Colin Campbell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfnIzYE4L鈥?/a>
Vegan IS the ONLY way to live.... after being raised with meat and dairy and consuming the standard North American diet.... I only started to care about health after the birth of my daughter... now I am OUTRAGED at the lies being perpetrated over the healthfulness of meat and dairy.... Oh and did you know that it would take 30 years of consuming nothing with vitamin B 12 in it for you to run out????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsfapVCJq鈥?/a>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqV鈥?/a> -very graphic Meet your Meat Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ts4GEpnz鈥?/a> -very graphic Meet your Meat Part|||I think veganism can be seen as unhealthy since veggies can lack some of the nutrients meat provides.|||Because you need more than white meat and if your a teenager then you need all the nutrients and vitamins you can get.
Come On, you cant live off soya milk and quorn meat forever.|||Um... being a vegetarian is good! ... as long you make sure to get your protein ( eggs, peanuts). Eating meat is good too, though. That's what people way back then ate and almost nothing else. You can get diseased from meat if you're not careful, but I live in WYO and here we eat wild meat, which is deer and elk. That way we know for sure that what we are eating is 100% natural and there is so added hormones in it. Personally, I think that eating meat is very good and being a vegetarian is too much work, for me anyways. But being a vegetarian is definitely a good thing. I guess it's how you look at it. Each one has it's benefits.|||Vegans are more likely to suffer from a vitamin B12 (cobalamine) deficiency since this is found in animal foods like meat, fish, eggs, and dairy products. Lack of this important vitamin may cause neurological and gastrointestinal problems.
Strict vegetarians likewise lack vitamin D which is found in fortified milk and eggs. To remedy this, they should expose themselves to sunlight for about 20 to 30 minutes daily. If not, the use of supplements is advised.
Rickets, another deficiency disease that causes deformed bones and a curved spine, has been observed in vegans. So have calcium and iron deficiencies. Children who adhere to vegetarianism tend to be smaller than omnivorous kids, Yetiv revealed.
"If you are considering vegetarianism you are one stupid idiot"
I come to you with a most unusual health problem: I went vegan upon coming to college, and now my urine is almost ridiculously dark. I drink two liters of water a day (although I used to drink like eight, Floridian summers being what they are)...so is there just something about veganism that stops urine dilution?|||Dude! it sounds like an infection you better go see your doctor.|||never happened to me.
what's in your diet?
are you eating/drinking anything that you haven't before?
Could also be whatever they put in dining hall food. Ours is kind of scary sometimes.|||Start taking a multivitamin and eating foods that help cause peeing along with drinking your water. See if that changes anything.|||that is strange. Never heard of that. you might want to talk to a doctor since you are drinking a lot of water|||Are you eating a lot of beats? People who go on juice fasts and drink beet juice experience dark red urine.|||Are you taking vitamin supplements? If so, that might be a cause|||Maybe you ate too much spinich?
My family and friends always bother me about nothing being vegan and I just want to be able to say what is right and what is wrong.|||You do what feels right. Basically, though, I would say that the line that should never be crossed is someone else's. What you want to eat, eat. What you don't want to eat, don't. But don't try to tell others what to eat or trick them into eating vegan or any of that. That's all you need to tell them.
"It's my decision and it's the right one for me. I understand that it isn't the right one for you. You don't have to agree with me, but please understand that I've given this a lot of thought and it's important to me."
Beyond that, you need to decide what is and is okay for you. If you don't want food that has been cooked in a pan that has been used for eggs, you'll need to spring for your own pan and probably keep it away from the kitchen. Nobody can tell you how vegan is vegan enough (though many will try). Only you know.
Again, you don't have to share someone else's belief to respect their right to have it. Do the best to respect the fact that your friends and family have the right to choose non-veg and ask that they return the favor. |||don't draw any lines... if people don't know where to stop crossing them it's fruitless.
just maintain what is important to you.
|||I know my reasons for not eating animal products. When people ask me questions, I have my answers ready. They are short, polite, but effective answers.
I have learned who I will offend, and who I will not offend and I choose wisely before speaking, because I don't feel causing offense or discord is necessary with people who will never convert to veganism anyways.
I admire your choice to be cruelty-free! |||I think it's important to remember the reasons you chose for becoming vegan. Those reasons should help guide you to what you feel is best for your lifestyle. I can only speak regarding my personal opinions, but I believe that you have made a great choice for many reasons by becoming vegan, so you should not let others criticisms get you down. It is true that it is impossible to be 100% vegan; otherwise, you could not drive cars (tires and other parts are made from animal products) or use any sort of transportation. There are some things that are simply out of our control. The point is to remember, and tell others, that being vegan is about making a better and more ethical choice when there is a reasonable capability to do so. Therefore, there are certainly many things that are 100% vegan, such as foods and clothes and shoes. However, your friends and family are right if they are saying that you cannot avoid all animal products. Just remind them that since more often than not there is a choice, you want to make a positive one even if it is not always possible. Lastly, what is right and wrong is a matter of personal opinion, so go with what first led you to being vegan and that is right!
They are a scary bunch. I think they secretly h8 fat people.|||Probably.|||I think it's better to avoid name calling like "a scary bunch" "new age fundamentalism" and "hippies". Wow! 3 examples of name calling in one question! Can it even be considered a valid question?
Better to put your energy into your ability to reason out your opinions. Usually when someone resorts to name calling, I just don't even consider it worthwhile to read it.
Also, I believe it's against the rules to pack your own opinions into a question. Did you read the rule pages before asking a question?|||for me it started for aesthetic reasons. mainly when i saw a commercial of two cows. one was licking the other one on the head. i thought i can't eat this. this is love being killed for nothing.
we don't need to eat animal flesh.|||Some of them are quite fanatical. They think we should not eat anything other than vegetables, nuts and fruit. They don't eat eggs or dairy products.
I am a vegetarian, but I eat both eggs and dairy and occasionally some meat.|||Scary. How? So some people don't eat certain foods. No biggee. Would you be more comfortable hanging out with a carnivore criminal than with a vegan pacifist?|||I notice a lot of vegans are into "alternative" medicine and sometimes paganism. There's probably people who add some hippie bent to it.|||fat? They usually look emaciated and half dead.|||No and no hating of fat people.
I know that there's an ethical issue with exploiting any other species for human consumption (I currently avoid honey products) but I'm not sure where to draw the line. Why sure I avoid honey in particular? I'm just looking for different opinions... And no I don't eat meat, dairy products, buy leather, go to rodeos, use products tested on animals, etc....|||From http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Ve鈥?/a> "While some vegans eat honey, others would like to avoid it. Agave nectar is a general-purpose liquid sweetener derived from the agave plant that serves well as a honey substitute. It is produced by Sweet Cactus Farms and Madhava, among others. Golden syrup is also a good substitute. Other excellent substitutes include rice syrup and other grain syrups, which have a similar taste."
I'm allergic to honey so I use agave nectar and it is delicious.|||queen bees are killed to encourage production.
many bees are killed during fumigation to harvest the honey.
+ vegans have the whole issue of exploitation regardless of if the bees die or not.|||Why are you avoiding honey? The bees don't die or aren't harmed by producing it. I do respect your choice not to eat it, but if you did, and you didn't eat ANY dairy products, you'd still be vegan. Honey is NOT a dairy product. Being vegan means you don't eat dairy products of any kind. And that's all it means.|||someone answered this question very well the other day - it was a very complete answer, I suggest you use the search for questions facility and look it up.|||Vegans and honey consumption is a story of hypocrisy. Vegans won't eat honey because the honey is taken from the bees without the bees permission, but those very same bees are shipped regularly from state to state to pollinate the crops of veges they eat, but that's ok. Why? No honey? No effort. No veges? Effort.
"queen bees are killed to encourage production.
many bees are killed during fumigation to harvest the honey."
Many more bees die in the fields and on the highways than in commercial hives.
"+ vegans have the whole issue of exploitation regardless of if the bees die or not."
My example has shown how this "issue" works.
Being a vegan is an open ended proposition because the adjusted definition says to exclude all forms of animal exploitation---when practical. Since each vegan is allowed to decide what's practical and what isn't, it leaves a lot of leeway.
Your best bet is to do what you think is best for you and don't worry if your vegan status symbol is taken away.|||www.vegetus.org has a page on why honey is not vegan.
I just don't get it. Vegans understandably want to be accepted for who and what they are, but frequently become very agitated and hostile when ever someone has an opinion that differs from there own. Because someone does not share your beliefs is no reason for hostility, yet that often proves to be the case. It just seems to me that vegans should be expected to be more tolerant of others, and perhaps they would be more likely to be accepted by mainstream society.|||You are right in saying that people shouldn't dislike other people just because they think differently. In the case of us showing hostility towards you, We don't like having somebody's opinion shoved down our throats. Every time you get a chance you think up new ways to condemn vegans as snobbish, uneducated idiots! You state your opinions as if they are facts based only on your "First hand experience" with veganism which lasted all of >less than< a year and your so-called research on the subject. You make up hypothetical questions in an attempt to ridicule us. Why would we be nice to you?!?!? You have given us no reason to.
Also, You have made it a habit to post in almost all of your >newer< answers, and the majority of your recent questions, something about vegetarians eating fish. You are not doing this because you actually believe that someone who eats fish can be a vegetarian. I recall you saying,
"BEEBS First, you are not a vegan. Although you have claimed to live a vegan lifestyle, you consume dairy products. You do not even meet the definition of a vegetarian in as much as you have confessed on previous posts that you do in fact consume animal flesh on occasion, if I remember correctly (and I do) you eat fish." -YOU
So, sounds to me like you are just trying to mess with those vegetarians trying to educate people about vegetarianism >That vegetarians don't eat fish<
Your answers are not sincere or helpful, and you do not deserve anyone's respect in here, being that most of what you do is an attempt to riddicule or stir us up!
I have changed my mind about you, at first I was really considering the fact that maybe you WERE trying to help people by giving them an opposite point of view. Now I see that you are just another "troll" trying to start trouble. I can see that by what you have been pulling lately>fish-eating
"vegetarians"<...
Seems to me like you are the one with anger issues, I say that because you have said it to me countless times. But keep in mind I am not the one going into a vegetarian/vegan forum, messing with people and spreading misinformation!
Additionally, I would like to add a little list that I have been making...
"No. You need some dead animals to balance your diet"-Amy H
"maybe it is[Is a vegan diet healthy?], but why would you stop eating meat?"-Dude...
"You are why people eat meet. Cuz if we don't we will become stupid and ask things like this. YES! Two pionts for me. Ha ha ha.
Source(s):
Everyone who eats meet~! "- jake_sillys
"I will gladly take my chances to have a steer knocked in the head for my bloody prime rib." -Amy H
"have a steak." - reb1den
"Good idea. Vegans are a bunch of queers anyhow."- NONAME
"mmmmm bacon."- prince fan!
"I don't eat anything that casts a shadow....I am rail thin and SOOOO hungry...."- CHUCKLEHEAD (I am assuming that he is being sarcastic)
"I'm sick of vegetarians. Get a job and a life, a**hole!"-Dallas "the panther" (I edited this one, I don't want to get reported for someone elses comment)
" idk...but vegetarions need to eat some meat some veggie people are too skinny and need some meat on them bones..guys like something to grab while *******!!!"- Beautiful disaster_21
"More meat for the rest of us."- Dragongurl
"There are none because meat is the best!"- IDK
"eat meat.... meat good... meat tasty... eat good tasty meat... " - IDK
"wah wah wah ....
cool, believe all that PETA crap - more chicken nuggets for me!" -GeorgiaGrits1
"Meat is just too good. MMMMMMMM" - Ray Finkle
"Being a vegan is a religion.
I think vegans need help!" -gulfstream_five_fifty
"Peta is for fruits and nuts that have nothing else to do but make asses of them selves" -Are we using our brains today
"Congrat's for turning into an idiot. Here is the only help you need. Go done to your local supermarket, go the the meat section and pick the nicest looking slab of steak there, take it home and season it, then grill it medium-rare with a little blood coming out onto the plate, grab a cold beer and enjoy the best type of food on the planet. And while you are enjoying that fine meal, try and kick yourself in the *** for thinking so stupid.
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals " -Train 379
"GET A BIG OLE MOUTHFUL OF THAT DOUBLE WHOPPER AND SPIT IT RIGHT ON 'EM " -libbyami
"110% ALL VEGANS ARE GAY. ONLY EAT MEAT LIKE GOD INTENDED" -urinebreak
"I'm betting most. I hope most. We don't need those dirty hippies adding to the gene pool!" - Gregneck
"I think all vegans are homos, but not all homos are vegans. Does that make sense ? " -Jeff
"yea, steak, chicken, and other real foods.
dumba**." -Brad P (edited this one)
"Yeah, man. I love meat especially raw cow and weasel. mmmm...mm I just love to watch the blood flow out as you drain the animal. Yeah! " -Alex
"Eat meat thats what god put it there for. I believe in PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)" - bigbasshb
"Stop being a vegetarian. Don't do what other people in this section tell you. EAT THE MEAT!!" - Robert M
"quitcherbitchin" -Bad butch
I don't look for these answers, I just add them when I see them... I may have missed some more recent ones though...
These are all unprovoked comments posted on questions that were in the V&V section... (I make sure not to add answers that have been provoked).
This list doesn't include any rude questions, only answers...
(Or else the list would be 3 times as long)
So, with all of the hostility that has been shown towards us, WHY would anyone expect us to just be perfectly happy when we see these rude questions/answers?... excuse us if we come off a little sensitive after being tormented in OUR own forum day after day!!!!
I really hope Y!A makes a rule against being an arrogant jerk, because maybe then we could get you kicked out of here!
But I would like to add that I found your Top Ten reasons for being a vegan question very funny... I would have given an answer, but I couldn't think of anything funnier than what people had already posted (with the exception of BEEBS's answer, All of her reasons were the same and sounded just like you... maybe you two should get together...)|||I see where you're coming from. Some people seem to think veganism is a religion that they must preach to the world. To me, if you really want to, well, "convert" someone, you can't do it by getting all up in their face about it. Vegan to me is a lifestyle choice, and it's not who I am, it's how I eat, and what industries I choose to support or not support. I'm more than just a vegan, I hope other people can come to that as well.|||I can't say for others but for me.. it's the way the talk of something and the way and where they talk of things.
Like pushing meat in a vegetarian vegan section.. I am hostile towards that but if they were pushing that in a different
section then I wouldn't be so hostile towards it! I suspect many vegans and vegetarians think the way I do! We're not hostile cause you push meat eating.. It's cause you do it in the wrong section! Sure there's no strictly meat section but you can push your meat eating beliefs in the Food and Drink section then we Vegetarians and Vegans wouldn't have to put up with the silly comments of meat eaters! If I can get away with it.. If the someone I'm with starts eat a burger or
some other meat item.. I'll say do you have to eat that in front of me? I try to avoid eating with meat eaters if I can help it!
Meat eaters tend to be more hostile to vegans and vegetarians than we vegetarians and vegans are towards meat eaters! In fact I think we vegetarians/vegans are too lenient to meat eaters pushing their views in this section. I'm being less lenient I now flag a meat pusher pushing meat eating in this section.. All we vegetarian/vegans should do same I think!|||How would you feel if you believed something was horrifically wrong, but everyone else in the world didn't even think twice about doing it every single day?
A human does not need animal products to live and be healthy. To me that says any animal that dies or is enslaved for the production of human food does so unnecessarily.
I get a little upset by the sheer number of sentient beings that are being killed everyday for no better reason than "it tastes good?"
I'm not a preachy vegan (outside of this site). I've never even really had this conversation with my family because they're not interested, but if someone asks me why I'm vegan or challenges my beliefs, I'm going to react strongly because it's something I feel very very strongly about.|||I think you have a great question.
Communication might have a big part in hostility. If someone feels like questions that meat eaters are asking are disrespectful they will surely retaliate in hostility. or, some veggies and vegans that have been ridiculed often, might just be defensive. I think that in my case, I get a lot of meat eaters making sarcastic, smart *** remarks that cause me to be a bit uptight at times. Debates about a lifestyle choice can get very heated, because two people are trying to convince each other of about a passionate subject. If the conversation is conducted in a respectful manner, that helps the hostility subside.
However I have noticed what your talking about. I think that sometimes you want to show people how their life could be healthier and make a difference to hundreds of innocent animals, that you can't help but push your views on others a little bit. I try to however not do that, and when I catch myself starting to, I just switch subjects.|||Vegans are sick of getting picked on my carnivores, being regarded as freaks, and being looked at with derision because they choose not to partake in the mindless soilent green system that is the industrialized food chain in this country. It is cruel, and poisons our water, our land, our food, and ultimately the people that eat it. It is difficult to be derided for eating responsibly, and caring where your food comes from. Yes, after a while, you get a tad defensive.
Not to mention all the people that come into the V&V with some kind of agenda, or just to harrass. I'm not saying you're one of them, I'm just saying it is a frequent occurance.|||This is the vegetarian board...what opinion would you like to be expressed here???? Why are you here?? This board is for questions about the vegan/vegetarian lifestyle, not for your anti-vegan opinions.|||many people are rude about our choice on veganism. our lifestyles are really important to us. usually, when someone is vegan, they don't do it for the health benefits. they do it to try and change how animals are used for our benefit and when someone bashes that, we take it personally. this isn't how it is for every vegan, im just generalizing :)|||This is the Vegetarian and Vegan forum. What do you expect ?
Trying to stir things up is really easy, although some meat-eaters think they are really clever by doing so here. , the sign of an intellect is someone who tries to make peace and understand.
I went out with a girlie who said if i really wanted to go out with here i'd eat the meat on the fork she was waving at me...needless to say it lasted one date....ha, ha, her loss. Who was being hostile because our opinions differed then ? Me ? think not.
I suspect there are more meat-eaters complaining about vegans than the other way around. The way meat-eaters complain about this you would think there were gazillions of vegans in the world. Either that, or they are all really popular and seem to eat in about 20 resturants every night.|||Hi there, interesting question!
Why do people get touchy about the slave trade? Why do Africans become upset by a white man using the N word? Why do Jewish folk get upset by people telling anti-semetic jokes?
Because cruelty has been involved. People were tortured, people were murdered.
You may not care that the chicken on your plate came from a bird who was bred to be eaten, that they were pumped full of growth hormones, kept in a shed with artificial light, was covered in sores, then was slaughtered within a month of its young life by being stuffed into shackles (where its legs and wings may have been broke) and then were slaughtered.
... but we do.
We don't mind people asking questions, but when people are being insensitive, it's hard to stay calm. The reason we are more passionate about our case than meat eaters is because life IS something that has to be taken seriously, that needs to be defended.
Have you seen the amount of stupid non food and drink related questions that appear in this section? It seems less that vegans go round judging people, and more that people make an ill-formed judgement on vegan behaviour!
We don't go round harrassing restaurant staff. We don't scream at people in the streets for wearing leather. We don't slap people in the face for buying meat. People who make this kind of snap judgement about a group of people are prejudiced, probably racist in other ways of life.
If us being vocal in our objection to the murder of animals (want to have a pop at vegan/vegetarian Hindus and Buddhists as well?) is seen as hostile, I'd say that it's more about your conscience feeling threatened than anything.
Sorry you feel this way, but I feel you're wrong and that you need to learn more about the non-violence message within vegan and vegetarian culture before passing judgement.|||I'm vegan, I still wear leather shoes and wool sweaters..... I am vegan for health reasons and the benefits for animals and the environment are a (great) plus. I am OK with seeing people eat meat next to me, my mantra is that as long as I don't have to EAT it, I'm ok with it. I'm pretty moderate and don't preach unless I feel I really need to defend myself. Not all vegans are preachy or hostile, but I can understand where they are coming from.|||Lack of Vitamin B12 is hard on the nervous system. It is very important to keep this vitamin up, and Vegans are the ones at risk, as it can't be stored in fat like Vitamin E, and is easiest to find in meat, milk eggs, and especially in liver or kidneys.
For that, it isn't a mystery why Vitamin B complex is often called "Stress Supplement". Some people are just more sensitive to lack of B. Under strain some can even break out in cold sores, and one big fix is a big plate of liver and onions, for which a vegan cannot partake, but which is my own mother's cure, and one I would take if I was stressed out and breaking out. (and I'm already cut way back on meat.)
Give them a little slack. If the people you speak of are American, even more so, they have already made an awesome adjustment to their diet for which they ought to get more credit for.|||vegans are so sensitive and easily agitated by opposing beliefs and op pinions due to there malnutrition as a result of improper eating habits; the don't seem to realize that THEY wouldn't be here if it weren't for their meat eating ancestors or for those meat eating scientists whom come up with genetically altered "organic' food.|||that is so true my friend. I know a vegan who would not close her mouth everytime I put a piece of steak in it. its like i understand that you want to eat like a bird. but Jahpson, has to eat to live and be happy.|||Because most humans naturally like to eat animal pruducts as well as plant material and vegans give up the first, it feels unnatural to them and therefore have to defend it. If a person is a true natural born vegan and not a covert to veganism then they would not be bothered about others eating habits.|||That is a great observation, two friends are vegans and they act the same way. I don't know. They always get on me for eating meat in front of them. I will be following this question!
When I started
(which about 9days ago)
I've been called a f@g (but in a joking kind of manner)
What are some other stereotypes vegetarians/vegans have to endure?|||I have NEVER had a problem - and I live in southeast TEXAS where you would think it most DEFINITELY would be one!
Got people that raise cattle all around me - even got a field that they graze in behind my home - but not one unkind word at all - EVER!
I also never really bring it up - unless such comes up within a conversation - such as when someone has asked me out and they are talking steakhouse and I have to tell them that I am more than likely only going to be able to eat the salad and maybe a potato there - along with the iced tea.
Maybe it is because I am older - I am 54. To top it off - I have pre-mature snow white hair mixed with platinum blonde - maybe the 'old lady intimidation factor' comes into play - I don't know. :)
I have had nothing but people going out of their way to make concessions for me because of my diet needs (I really CAN'T eat meat because I get SICK because of medication that I am on).
I am a widow and recently started to date again - and even the men that I go out with - every last one of them go out of their way to make sure that there is something for me to eat - one man even going so far as to find a 5 star vegetarian/vegan Indian restaurant for us to go to (Madras Pavilion) when we went out while hitting museums.
So my experience has been far from negative - actually the exact opposite. But then I only started having this problem (epilepsy meds causing upset when meat is eaten) and started to figure it out in late Oct/early Nov of last year - so hasn't been a long time either.|||Well, a common stereotype I've heard from veggies themselves is "being a veggie is much better, at least I'm much healthier"...HOWEVER this being said with a can of coke in their hand, a chocolate bar in the other and a packet of crisps for after the chocolate bar....and i've seen them eat this for lunch every day!!!
I used to be a veggie but I was damn healthy, I lived on fruit, veg, tofu, pulses, eggs, wholemeal rice/pasta/bread then had an occasional treat, like a chocolate bar, but only rarely!
Vegetarianism is great if you do it properly but, let's face it, better to eat a plate of chicken, potatoes and veg than all that crap many veggies eat, at least they'd be getting some proper nutrients rather than empty calories!|||The most common I hear is that we're sissy, floaty, new-agey, crybabies. That seems to be the most common/popular opinion of things.
And it's for this reason that, due to my being male, 6'2, and muscular, when I decline a slice of pepperoni pizza on the grounds that I'm a vegetarian (usually by saying, "nah, thanks, I don't eat meat"), people laugh and say "no, seriously, go ahead."|||"Hypocrite" comes to mind. I dated a self-proclaimed vegetarian but she still ate eggs and chicken.
News flash: eggs and chicken are not vegetables!!
Don't be a hypocrite.|||Dirty, filthy, hippie, underweight, pasty, sickly and gay.|||That we are hippies, skinny, pale, tree huggers, weird, crazy, hypocrites, that we are just following a fad, stupid, smelly, we are brainwashed.|||people say think/say studip, but if I show that it hurts e they would do it more. so i just go,,, whatever, or if I know them well, I will make a joke about them and just laught. - its better to just blow it off.
One person said, - "do you graze"? -|||Haha I feel your pain!
Somestereotypes are that all vegetarian/vegan people are tree-hugging activists. I don't know why, people just do. I get called a lot of names too.
I have been called:
Un-Australian
Fussy
Weird/Strange
Herbivore freak
And some people have said to me:
You're gonna die before the rest of us
Eating no meat will make you fat
And people have also thrown meat at me.|||You know, usually after boys hit on me and figure out they aren't getting anywhere, I get called pasty, sickly, unhealthy, ridiculous, a tool, all sorts of things, etc........I usually don't worry about it because the boys always come back.......|||um a loser
animal hugger
actavist person
lol
im not
i just dont wanna kill animals
and think eating dead bodies is gross|||definitely
UN-American,
and homophobic people
tend to find corelations between many things they don't understand, So there for you can almost expect to be called a pejoratively insulting homophobic phrases.
interestingly enough,
if you are well articulate in arguments about veganism
people will start seeing you as "self righteous"
Vegans, sometimes tend to be stereotyped as "angry and sleepy," this is attributed to unhealthy vegans who don't know how to regulate a proper diet and are suffering from inadequate nutrition.
Also "annorexic" is a common one.
does it have to be through a Vegan organization?|||While it is a noble pursuit to want to advocate a vegetarian diet/lifestyle, PLEASE do not become as preachy as many are.
That said, have you considered beginning a "vegetarian" club or organization through your school? Educating people on the healthfulness and beneficial sidenotes (environmental, animal welfare) of a well-planned plant-based diet can do more for the "cause" than passing out gory leaflets ever will.|||You can do it however you want. The best thing I would think for you to do is to be knowledgeable about veganism. Don't push your opinion on people, but if it ever comes up and they want to discuss it, talk to them about it. If you want to be more straightforward, you could join a group, start one, or something like that. Maybe hand out fliers or something, or get online and do it through social networking, chatting, etc. But no, it doesn't have to be through a group or official organization.|||ya go pass out those free pamphlets with the animal cruelty photos it works
something like this
http://www.peta2.com/p2vsk2_flash/
but better yet just concentrate on the positive aspects of being vegan
so maybe on the front of the pamphlet like scotchtape this
as a vegan since u dont eat dairy or eggs or any animal products
u dont contribute to the animal cruelty industry or eat this stuff:
genetically modified meats n fish that are both fed corn which is unnatural n messes them up
dairy that has pus n blood in milk n thats concentrated in cheese
eggs which is good since the fda is taking the next 15 months to investigate the us egg farms
u do eat a way healthier diet for yourself n the environment basically
movies food inc n food beware
books in defense of food n the omniovores dilemma by micheal pollan
gluck
also u can major in like nutrition or biology or public health
look for job openings
maybe like this
http://www.demandstudios.com/health-writing-jobs.html?utm_source=LScom&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=livestrong
thats all gluck|||jOIN a vegan group.
answer mine: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100911201828AAG6Lka|||I work with Peta2 They are pretty extreme for most though(for ages 13-21)|||www.peta.org|||Nope. Just spread the word (if you're asked - never be pushy) :)
If so, let me see it. Put the URL in the answer.|||I highly doubt you would be able to find a legit one, as I've been asking myself the same thing for years.
However, with a quick google search, you can find plenty of professional looking articles bashing vegans in the silliest ways. For example, this article: http://holistic-nutrition.suite101.com/a鈥?/a>
1. It assumes that all vegans eat unfermented soy products as if they are the only source of protein.
2. It then attempts to blame vegans for making animals bred for food unhealthy by feeding them too much soy. (doesn't make sense to me either.)
3. Lastly, the ridiculous quote from someone I've never heard of who works in agriculture (not an m.d) about how vegan babies are born retarded...and then no medical evidence to back up this claim whatsoever.
Or, you may have seen this news article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/21/opinio鈥?/a> which comes to the conclusion that if one vegan couple is uneducated and mistreats their child by feeding them only soymilk and apple juice, that ALL vegans must be the same. All one million of us. Seems like a pretty large generalization.
Either way, many who agree with that article seem to forget the unfortunate fact that children starving to death isn't really that uncommon. What about these news articles from the last month about meat-eating parents who have starved their children to death? http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&鈥?/a>
What about impoverished children who are dying by the second? As I've type this, the world has lost hundreds of children to starvation (1 every 5 seconds.)|||No but heres a reliable article from pubmed that says vegetarianism is healthy. tell me what u think:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19083鈥?/a>|||C'mon, Cliff, can you find one?
Didn't think so.|||http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&鈥?/a>|||The Weston A Price Foundation is controversial, so you'll have to judge how "reliable" they are on your own, but they're probably your best starting point:
http://www.westonaprice.org/
http://www.westonaprice.org/Vegetarian-T鈥?/a>|||I doubt there is a realible one, because its not true! If a vegan gets the right nutrients then they are perfectly healthy! If they don't then it can be unhealthy, but meat eaters can also eat an unbalanced diet and be unhealthy.|||The Vegan Diet is very healthy. Vegans that eat a well balanced diet are way healthier than meat eaters. There are many successful Vegan and Vegetarian Athletes. I am a living miracle thanks to the Vegan Diet. When I ate the Standard American Diet I required 12 or more medications a day and was very sickly and unable to leave my home except to see the Doctor and visit the ER. Now I am very healthy and no longer require any daily medications. The Vegan diet has changed my life for the better.|||I have yet to find one.
I have read some anti-vegan literature, nothing that really left me doubting my vegan diet.
I have read something about a women who was a vegan for 20 years and suffered from many health problems, she is now eating meat. But, the thing is, you have to read between the lines. She had health problems right off the bat and she was blaming it on her vegan diet, which isn't fair.
Her argument about the environment was much better.
If there is one, I'd love to read it.|||I think I heard the statement a few years ago ' There is no defensible argument against veganism" - I believe it and in 17yrs have yet to have someone show me one!|||Oh weston price...egads. Dont go there.
"way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence for life"
to
"way of living which seeks to exclude - as far as is possible and practical - all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose"
http://www.vegsource.com/jo/essays/nameg鈥?/a>
"In the second version, a disclaimer about practicality has been inserted,"
Does anyone know what year that disclaimer was added?
This question sponsored by whoever got one of my answers deleted.|||Why didn't you post the entire original.
Part of the original reads, "encourages the use of alternatives".
The definition never included words such as "demands" or "requires"
The main points were the exclusion of all animal foods and use of obvious animal products such as wool, honey, leather, feathers, etc.
"as far as is possible and practical" is just used to further clarify in regards to the key word "encourages".
I would hope that Donald Watson and his peers would have wanted veganism to be a movement with the potential to influence people in any walk of life. If he was an elitist that believed that isolation from the majority was the only notable choice, I'm afraid that the movement has thankfully abandoned his intentions for it. Regardless, based on interviews with him that I have read, that is far from the truth and he wanted compassion the be the core message, not purity.
PS - I'm sorry that your answer was deleted. If anyone deserves a place here lighting short fuses, it would be you. =)
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SORRY, I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION
We've had a lot of people coming here and spewing BS just to piss people off, so I apologize if you were seeking genuine answers but only getting hate. It didn't help that you seemed to be mimicking another account, that wasn't the best way to introduce yourself. Someone had been continually impersonating user after user and making them sound like *overt* hypocrites. I thought that you were the latest model.
Yes, this is our first.
My honest interpretation of "exploitation" is controlling the birth, death or resources of another and/or having a negative effect on their quality of life for personal gain. This is just a simple one to be used in this case. The use of animals for food is the reason for this immeasurable volume of organic slaughter-waste and I take no responsibility for any of the demand. To be honest once more, I would rather have these substances "sent back to the Earth" than have them dumped into a landfill that would trap their natural resources indefinitely.
When an animal dies, its body should contribute to new life. If I could change everyone's view on using animals for food, I would. I am aware that I can't change anyone and I don't try. With the support of everyone there would no longer be slaughter by-products to render. We could also develop technology to repel small animals from a field that would eventually be ravaged by a combine. All of this leads me to believe that conventional produce has no connection to any "exploitation" other than that of the abused immigrants that it "employs". No "animal" existed or suffered for the sake of my diet and the logic of a contrary view would have one believe that no pile of dirt is vegan due to its history.
Someone that isolates themselves just for the sake of being removed from animal by-products is just fooling themselves into thinking that they alone make a difference. I am willing to admit that I make no difference whatsoever, but instead do what I can to show people that human animals do not have to cause suffering to survive. I am doing what I can do have a positive effect long after I am dead because I don't do it for myself. The person mentioned above has no such power or purpose. They live in their own world.
If this is a rant - my bad.|||I can't add much to Krister's thoughtful and intelligent reply, which has to be your best answer..
I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that Donald Watson himself didn't isolate himself from society in order to avoid animal by-products so presumably did not envisage the movement he started causing people to do so.
As for your answer being deleted, I don't know what answer it was or who reported it but I assume they thought you were one of the many trolls on this forum. I used to think that myself, and it didn't help that you keep changing your user name - I assumed for some time that you were using multiple identities and were up to the same trouble-making as the likes of Mr Meat, David V and The Only Straight Veggie (nasty little homophobe forever jack-knifed over his flying fist).
Now I think you make an intelligent contribution, though your nit-picking at the word vegan can get tiresome. We do what we can - nothing dies or suffers to feed, clothe, clean or beautify me, and I call myself a vegan where necessary and appropriate to make this clear. I don't care what other people call me, and as I've said before I'm not JUST a vegan, I have other beliefs and priorities and no desire to join an elitist - and presumably already wealthy - group of sociopaths in forming an isolated community and letting the rest of humanity go hang.|||Maybe you should contact the source. That would be the smart thing to do for such things.|||Don't know the answer to the question. But if you're going to get totally hung up on technicalities and keep dragging this one out day after day... then yeah ok, as far as you're concerned I'm just a very awkward vegetarian who uses the term 'vegan' to give your average Joe a quick and simple description of what principles I generally stick to, without going into a half-hour rant of all the things I do and don't do. I am not first and foremost a vegan, I follow this lifestyle because I follow a Buddhist path, which involves finding your own salvation, making your own choices through knowledge and never, ever - and this is very important - sticking rigidly to any strict rule no matter what because somebody said so. When I discovered how food, toilletries, clothing, etc ,etc, etc were really produced, I stopped consuming many of them as part of my small contribution to the greater good. Doing what I can for the greater good makes me feel better and gives me a clear conscience, it would be wrong for me to do something I feel is wrong at the time of doing it. However, just because the vegan society, or even the government or a religious leader makes a rule, doesn't mean all their supporters have to obey this rule at all times forever more until the end of time. Yes, maybe technically you can't call yourself a whatever-it-is word if you don't follow the rules, but because of my beliefs I have to be adaptable to circumstance. I find my own path that I think is right according to the circumstances I'm in i.e. if I was in a jungle tribe I'd probably trap/hunt my dinner and clothes, but that's different to living a comfortable life in the city and giving money to massive industries who keep billions of animals in awful conditions, when I have the choice to eat/use/wear something else. If the vegan society makes a rule that is absolutely impossible not to break, then I have no moral issue with breaking their rules. If like you say, vegetables aren't vegan then ok, but I still have to eat something and my choosing to eat only plant-based foods isn't lining the pockets of the meat industry anything like it would be if I ate meat. I'm a really, really awkward vegetarian to the point where I won't even brush my teeth with something that's not on the vegan society's list.
I'm doing a project. I know how it relates to biology I just have to find an article that includes all the information that I'm going to present. Thanks!|||This person has some interesting thoughts, and makes connections between the two. 3td and 4th paragraphs start getting into the "meat" of the topic. LOL|||Right wing paedos write books and go on book tours of Primary schools all under the watchful eye of more perverts who somehow passed an exam. Not on how not to be a paeodo according to their unions, other than the paedo link they are also sick by talking about the planet when their book kills oxygen producing trees. Vegetarian writers are scum.
Like about health issues and moral issues. Books designed for people thinking about it or to influence or educate omnivores|||Alicia Silverstone's "The Kind Diet" is an interesting read. It also has recipes.|||"Why we love dogs, eat pigs, and wear cows" by Melanie Joy. Another one of my favorites "Eating animals" by Jonathan Safran Foer.
possibly having to do with its effectiveness in dieting? ANY ideas please! thanks!|||how about something about/using soy beans....
like how they get it to look like cheese or milk or something...|||As body temperature is 96 degrees,show how animal fat takes a higher temperature to melt and digest and that is why the veggan diet is better for people loosing weight because veggies are easier to digest and no fat.
Maybe the French word for vegan or vegetarian or something. Lots of words. Any slang would be greatly appreciated.|||Well IDK what this is for, but here's what I know:
vegetables = legumes
pineapple = l'anana
banana = le banane
tomato = la tomate
potato = pomme de terre
hamburger without meat = l'hamburger sans la viande
without cheese = sans le fromage|||vegan in french is v茅g茅talien. as refering to a female it would be v茅g茅talien.
vegetarian in french is the same (almost).v茅g茅tarien. for female v茅g茅tarienne.
if you want to purial it out, just add an s it each word.
"veganism", i'm not too sure how to put it in french. anyway, hope it helps anyway,
What transitional method has the highest sucess rate??? And can you recommend any good books or websites?|||Slow and steady. Start by finding replacements for your favorite foods, and dig into the research. The more you learn, the more you'll want to make the switch. Good luck!
Here are some sites!
www.peta.org
www.vegsource.com
www.vegweb.com|||I went from eating a "regular" diet (without a lot of meat) to vegan cold turkey. I was really excited and motivated to try it out for 2 weeks and see if i liked it and it's been over 8 months and I still love it! I don't know if you're as enthusiastic as I was, but you could try that. There were definitely a few times in the first few weeks when I ate non-vegan items, but instead of beating myself up I just moved on. If you get cravings just make vegan versions using the same recipes with a few substitutions. It's fun and easy! The best part about doing it the way I did is experiencing the positive changes your body goes through when becoming vegan!|||try some different brands of veggie burgers, veggie chicken, soy hot dogs and find the one you like
then to go vegan read the ingredients on packages and look for gelatin, stear (as in stearate), and glycerine. they are the most common animal ingredients.
try some recipes in vegan cookbooks like voluptuous vegan or veganomicon.
visit a recipe near you which you can find at http://www.happycow.net
try some of the recipes at http://www.vegweb.com|||the best way is to cut out food very slowly - going from omnivore to veganism could take a year or so. after a while, it seems you stop craving the food so much. I know this wasn't too helpful, but oh well! :)|||best is viginaism,the best one i follow,
the best thing is the more i eat the more calories you burn,and tastes so good|||I would advise you not to do so...
I consider it to be a diet.
(Not trying to offend any vegans, just looking for other opinions)|||Choice|||Veganism is a lifestyle choice Otherwise it is considered strict vegetarianism. I only say this because it is not limited to what you eat, but what one wears, what medications one takes, what one uses to bath with and basically everything in one's life.|||It really depends on the person, if they change due to a belief than it's a lifestyle choice. If they change just because they don't want to eat meat anymore, or if they think it will make them feel better than it's a diet.|||For some it is a diet and others see it as a lifestyle... you have to look at the individual who is vegan rather than just what they eat... are they looking to lose weight? Or do they truly believe in saving the animals and all of that...|||It is by definition a lifestyle.
I think you must be confused with strict vegetarianism.
Strict vegetarianism: not EATING any animal products
Veganism: not USING any animal products as far as possible, not in any way limited to diet.|||As per the widely accepted definition, veganism is a lifestyle. The dietary component of veganism is called strict vegetarian.|||lifestyle.|||lifestyle for me
Some foods, such as carrots and tomatoes, have nutrients that increase their bioavailability as they're cooked. Sweet potatoes and potatoes should also be cooked, but it's packed with nutrients.
You can eat MOSTLY raw and still be good. But it's just better to eat a mixture of raw and cooked foods. Don't boil & toss the liquid and you'll keep most of the nutrients.
*EDIT* Also, since you're an athlete, you need protein, right? You'll get more protein out of beans and quinoa when they're cooked than if you were to sprout them. Sprouting removes a lot of anti-nutrients from beans, but the sprouting process also uses up the protein. Many raw vegans aren't hard core athletes and can get away with less protein. Veganism provides a lot of protein, but I haven't heard of any vegan athletes who are raw. Triathlon athlete Brendan Brazier eats 80% raw. I'm pretty sure that most of that are fruits and veggies, but the protein is probably cooked.|||If you consider longevity as being healthy - then no, it isn't.
A diet consisting mainly of plant based foods with some lean meats has proven to be more beneficial to people by making them live longer, than a plant based only diet.
From wiki: "A 1999 metastudy combined data from five studies from western countries.[71] The metastudy reported mortality ratios, where lower numbers indicated fewer deaths, for fish eaters to be 0.82, vegetarians to be 0.84, occasional meat eaters to be 0.84. Regular meat eaters and vegans shared the highest mortality ratio of 1.00. The study reported the numbers of deaths in each category, and expected error ranges for each ratio, and adjustments made to the data. However, the "lower mortality was due largely to the relatively low prevalence of smoking in these [vegetarian] cohorts". Out of the major causes of death studied, only one difference in mortality rate was attributed to the difference in diet, as the conclusion states: "...vegetarians had a 24% lower mortality from ischaemic heart disease than non-vegetarians, but no associations of a vegetarian diet with other major causes of death were established.""
That was based on a study released in 2009 that shows vegans had the same mortality as heavy meat eaters - but for different reasons. Read the study at; http://www.ajcn.org/content/70/3/516S.fu鈥?/a>
I know a lot of people will vote this down because it is contrary to what they hope is true - but you can't argue with facts.|||I have to say yes.
I had chronic migraines which lasted for weeks and during these migraines I could not be exposed to light, could not eat or drink, have skin so sensitive that I could not be touched, and I was ridiculously sensitive to sound and smell. I was put in the hospital, and when a particularly bad migraine had ended, I was given a meal of an apple, a chicken drumstick, corn, and rice. They told me to eat the protien and carbs (chicken and rice) first because I needed that the most. As with red meat, my body had suddenly begun to reject any cooked food given to me. My body began purging the food I was given. Another migraine was beginning. I was rather hungry and decided to try to eat while I was still able. So, down the hatch went the apple. And, shockingly, it stayed down. The sensitivity began to lighten about an hour later. I could no longer smell the sickly chemical scent of food, and I could stand a weak light. After weeks of total pain, darkness, and starvation, I could finally sit up. With a light on, no less! I was given fresh orange juice, and my condition improved even more, if only slightly. Needless to say, two days on an all fruit and veggie diet later, I was out of the hospital. Turns out, my digestive system is that of a frugivore. So I was put on a raw vegan diet. My life has improved dramatically, and next year Im going to public school (Im 15, and rarely leave the house. So excited)! I went from a small, extremely underweight, nearly suicidal girl to a healthy, strong, happy girl! raw veganism is a cure all! I no longer need glasses either ;) Good luck with your athletiness :)|||I'm bound to say yes. If done right, it contains more nutrients, more vibrancy, and less pollution ( cooked food is rather useless and dead weight an awful lot of the time) than cooked food. Which is never actually MADE to be cooked. If it was made to be cooked, it would come out fo the ground that way.
Cooked is purely for human's taste.
Raw is absolutley the best, when you practice it, you actually feel and thrive exactly how the human body is meant to feel. If you have never done this before you'll most likely have a revelation somewhere around week two, when you realise just how full of insane calm fit energy you contain.
What you'd want to do with cow teat fat coming near your mouth in the first place beats me. SO, if you wanna call it vegan, go ahead. I personally don't use the word, I find it vulgar ( it's the v).
:)|||http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/438983鈥?/a>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magaz鈥?/a>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/18鈥?/a>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-an鈥?/a>
Yep, looks like it. (Hey at least these sources aren't from wikipedia lololol)|||Not for humans no,the human body is omnivorous for a reason.a mixed diet of fruits,vegetables,grains, lean meat,and the rest of the food pyramid is the healthiest diet for humans,frankly because its what our body is meant to run on.|||www.30bananasaday.com
You can find out about some serious raw vegan athletes there. I can't conclusively say whether it is or isn't, but research, try for yourself (but do it right), and see if you can get the results that other people are getting.
80-10-10 rv's are super lean and claim to be pounds lighter with the same or more strength, so this may be right in line with your mma goals.|||I was on the raw vegan diet for two weeks, and now my beard grows twice as fast. The same amount of hair that took a couple weeks to grow now only takes 1 week to grow. How do you explain that?
With that, I say that the raw vegan diet is the healthiest diet.|||Only if you're a ******* retarded hippy.
I am a vegan for moral reasons. I just would like some whipped cream and milk chocolate and cheese and quiche. Its just come on all of a sudden over a coupla months. have been vegan for years.|||i'm a vegetarian, but one thing i do to help keep me on track is to print out meaningful quotes from famous vegetarians (albert einstein, leonardo davinci, leo tolstoy, etc.) that will remind me of why i chose what i did. i put them in my office and at home in places that i will look every day. when i feel tempted it is helpful to see them and be reminded of my values. i try not to use videos as inspiration because i find it traumatic to watch things like "meet your meat" over and over. i'm not trying to ignore what happens, but i don't think you have to watch it to remember what goes on. good luck!!
EDIT: like previous posters, i also use substitutes when i feel tempted. i reach for things like veggie burgers and fakon. maybe trying some vegan dairy substitutes would help you out, too.|||Don't worry, I've gone through periods like that too. One thing that helps is to remind yourself why you're vegan.... look at pictures and videos of factory farming. This site is good: http://mercyforanimals.org/factory_farmi鈥?/a>
The other thing that's helped me is to find vegan versions of my favorite products.
Whipped cream:
Soyatoo Soy Whip
http://www.soyatoo-usa.com/us/start/
Chocolate:
Whole Foods 365 brand vegan chocolate chips
Cheese:
Follow Your Heart
http://www.followyourheart.com/cheese.ph鈥?/a>
Teese vegan cheese
http://www.teesecheese.com/
Quiche:
http://www.ener-g.com/Recipe/RecipeDetai鈥?/a>
(Use soy cheese for the cheese an soymilk for the milk)
Good luck!|||Try some vegan substitutes. You can find vegan whipped cream and ice cream and other "dairy" sorts of products at your local health food store, as well as faux chocolate (dark chocolate marzipan candy bars are a good alternative). This should help carry you through the physical/sensory temptations that make you want to stray from your ideology.
Sounds as though your belief system does not condone eating/using animals in any respect. I encourage you to strive to abide by the set of ideals that you have obviously thought hard about. Someone once told me: Never compromise a higher value for a lower one; it can only lead to mental strife. Through constantly reminding yourself why you chose this lifestyle for yourself and finding near-equivalent vegan options for the items you crave, you're bound to pull through.
Good luck!|||Are you sure you haven't mistakenly had dairy lately? I always found cravings strongest when I had been exposed to animal proteins|||You can buy soya alternatives to dairy. Try a health foods store :-)|||I think it is more the idea of those foods, than the actual food itself. I'm a vegetarian and lately have been having dark thoughts about just eating meat and giving up. Just remember about why you did it, and how long you've been doing it. Always works for me. :)|||Sounds like maybe you need to shake-up your routine a little. Why not get yourself a new cookbook and try some new fun recipes? Vegan With A Vengeance and Veganomicon by Isa Chandra Moskowitz both have great recipes for tofu ricotta cheese, and Dreena Burton's Eat Drink And Be Vegan has an amazing "warm & cheezy" white bean dip.
Craving non-vegan foods does NOT mean your body is crying out for nutrition from eggs and dairy. (Smokers crave nicotine.... it doesn't mean they ought to smoke to be healthy.)
If you need a good dose of vegan anarchism, visit veganfreaks.org, read some AR literature, and listen to a Propagandhi album... it'll set you straight!
Best of luck!|||Your body is telling you LOUD AND CLEAR that it requires a different set of nutrients than you have been providing to it.|||your body is not use to all that stuff, it may actually reject it and make you feel ill. nothing wrong with sticking to what you know. :)|||Maybe god (if there is one) is trying to tell you something. Like its unnatural in human nature.
Vegans think it's their way or the highway, when the truth is we can all decide for ourselves. Why do Vegans feel the need to shove their POV down other people's throats?|||There are always people who will do that with ANY given subject, it is an open forum, so just ignore the people posting stuff like that|||For the same reason I "think" everyone shouldn't enslave, torture, and murder humans.
That we "can" all decide for ourselves is a factual observation about the current institutional status quo,
not an ethical argument.
Moreover, it's ironic to say that vegans "shove their POV down other people's throats" when...let's be honest....omnivores make up the vast, vast majority, their views and lifestyles are culturalized into people from birth via the media, ignorance on nutrition, and a lack of education in ethics. Vegans routinely have their children removed from them for refusing to bring them up in a way that exploits animals. To imply there's some kind of vegan police is laughable.
The fact is, it's not vegans who support forcing one's morals onto others, including enslavement, torture, and death. That would be omnivores.|||Not all vegans think that way, just like all omnivores don't think that way. Just like there are vegans who might try to convert you to veganism, there are obnoxious omnivores who try to shove their ideals down everyone elses throats. There is a meme on the internet that sums up my feelings about this very well it says,
"You think spending one day as an omnivore with your vegan friend is straining? Try 365 days as a vegan in a world with 6,707,483,384 omnivores."|||I will answer the generalized question with a generalized answer. They are very passionate about their diet and what they put into their bodies. They want everyone to feel as great as they feel, and want everyone to respect all creatures far and wide. Their hearts are in the right place, however some take it to the extreme.|||I'm not a vegan, but at the same time I strongly object to how the beef/pork/chicken industries are run in america and I THINK a lot of vegans feel the same way. The only meat I eat is from animals that I hunt. One shot, no pain. It's healthier and safer than buying meat at a grocery store. Nothing is wasted. Also, we weren't meant to be vegetarians, if we were the enamel on our teeth would be thicker.|||This is the vegetarian/vegan site yet we have to put up with meateaters coming on here forcing their views on us, insults and rudeness, so your claim can be turned around. How often do you see vegans on the other food site forcing their views on people that choose to eat meat? Most vegans just want a quiet life and dont preach or force their opinions on others but there will always be a minority that are critical towards meateaters.|||You are mistaken. I'm vegan and don't care what you eat. This is an odd place for you to visit if you don't like the POV of vegetarians and vegans. The only time I voice my views is when asked by one who is sincere about learning. Sounds like you are more interested in criticizing what you don't understand.|||Yes come to the V&V section, make a generalised statement & give your own POV.......well done, i'm sure you've copped onto the utter irony & hypocrisy in this question|||I think that's an unfair generalisation, I don't think like that. Eat what you eat, I don't care.|||Because being vegan is super groovy man! But yeah everyone should have the right to eat the way they want without people trying to change them.|||I don't think everyone should either. My diet is my own personal decision, as is yours.|||Well, I'll be honest. I don't like that people support slaughter houses, does that make me a bad person?
I'm a vegan. Just curious.
I plan on countering them on my blog, for other vegans to be able to view and go to.|||I haven't heard many "good" ones, haha. But some I've heard, regardless, are:
* Need the nutrients from meat/dairy/eggs.
* Meat tastes good.
* Vegetarianism/veganism is too hard.
* Vegetarian/vegan diets are boring and gross.
* Plants are living things, too.
* Fish aren't really animals.
* Animals eat animals.
* God put animals here for us to eat.
* Population control.
* Humans are natural omnivores.
* One person doesn't make a difference.
* We have laws against animal mistreatment and it doesn't happen.
* Eating meat actually helps the environment, because we're eating the animals that make the emissions.
* Global warming isn't real; the environment is fine.
* Being a veg*n makes you weak/wimpy.
So there you go. Good luck with your blog. By the way, could you link us to it? It'd be rather interesting ^^|||I know you care and I'm sorry to offend you or anyone else. I'm just so sick of listening to my friends arguing about this acting all smug and superior, both vegan and omnivore. Report Abuse
|||It is very rare to get a logical argument against veganism but there is one which talks about the small animals that get killed in combines and such when harvesting crops.
Obviously, veganism is the path of least harm because more crops are fed to livestock than to humans, but still this argument is not good because it makes us look a bit hypocritical, although I always maintain that veganism is not absolute and that it's unfortunate that some small animals die to harvest crops, but we are not willfully subjecting them to violence or confinement. Maybe you have a better answer than I do.|||I'm a total supporter of veganism. I'm a vegetarian myself, but theres a few reasons why I could never become a vegan:
-It can be unhealthy, unless you really really watch your diet at get proper nutrients
-It's more work to get all the proper nutrients without using animal products
-You are very limited in what you eat, especially when eating in restaurants or while being a guest at someone's house
-You cannot enjoy the same foods that vegetarians or people with meat in their diet get to eat
Thats about it (:
But good job on being vegan, your doing great things for the world! =]|||1. You can't get all the complex minerals & vitamins you need.
2. Vegan food is boring and comprises of nut cutlets and soya.
3. Increased soya intake has been linked to increased chances of Altzimers.
4. Vegetarians have less chances of getting cancer but as an increased chance of getting some specific cancers compared to carnivores.
But as a carnivore who finds themselves eating less meat, I'd like to see a good vegan/vegetarian website that doesn't take such a 'us and them' attitude.
With recent news that the levels of methane in earths atmosphere going up, and with methane being 60 times better than CO2 for causing global warming, we need to get the message out that we all need to eat less meat as livestock contributes hugely to methane levels.
One of the food's that have replaced some of the meat in my diet are vegetarian burgers, I've found they taste rather nice and they're a lot cleaner to cook, any new vegan/vegetarian website that can show viewpoint's other than 'Meat is Murder' is probably going to be successful in reducing the amount of meat consumed.|||There's always the God argument that comes into play, about how HE put them here for us to eat.
Most people say things to do with Protein, B12 and Iron.
Thing is normally when I tell people I'm a vegetarian, most of the people don't really care, it's the more uneducated ones that say things, so most arguments are going to be a bit stupid and all counter-able|||I haven't heard any good ones.
You eat what you eat, I'll eat what I eat. Nothing more, nothing less.
I don't think what you eat should be a matter to argue over.
*I eat meats and veggies. I have friends who are very strict vegans and others who only cut out red meats...(don't remember what they call that one)...They don't cut me down and I don't cut them down. We eat together happily and don't condemn one another for choices made.*|||Picture cows running wild as deer, breeding in the wild and lumbering onto our freeways. 'Like a cow caught in the headlights' just doesn't seem to have the same impact. However, hitting a cow vs a deer would have a different impact, alright. Would they have a cow hunting season to thin the herds, you suppose?
And OMGosh! The Pigs! Those thangs can git mighty hefty - and mean-tempered. They'd all end up inside every store & building that has an automatic door! Can't have that, so gotta eat 'em. (Although I don't eat a lot of meat, I contribute to your safety a bit.)|||I have yet to hear any.
Nothing that addresses the fact that:
Eating blood, pus, sh*t, and steroids is disgusting.
Factory farming contributes more green house gases to the atmosphere than ALL CARS EVERYWHERE COMBINED.
Those who adopt a plant-based diet live longer.
Those who go vegan are boycotting horrific cruelty.|||I agree, I never hear anything Intelligent....but, this is the most common I receive:
God wants us eat them (or something about god or the bible)
What do you eat? Just lettuce all day?
You can't get any protein without meat
If we didn't eat animals they would overrun the streets and we wouldn't be able to drive, walk, whatever (I get that one alot....seriously the most ignorant thing I've ever heard)
I grew up eating meat (I hate this one.....do they think we were all born vegan?)
Our teeth are made for eating meat. All animals that have teeth like ours eat meat. So we should be able to eat meat.
The process of evolution has placed humans, the stronger, in a position to be able to use the weaker (non-human animals) for our eating and other pleasures. Other animals besides us eat meat (i.e., other animals) 鈥?are they immoral? E.g., if the lion eats the zebra, that isn鈥檛 morally wrong. So it鈥檚 a natural instinct we have to eat meat.
Humans are more intelligent and more rational than non-humans. These characteristics give us the right or opportunity to be able to use non-humans for food.
What鈥檚 the difference between killing plants and killing animals?
.....then there's this guy! who says "If meat is murder, then green is mean." (WTF?) He has a blog or something....please email him your hatemail to: Zachariah Tomazin zrt5007@psu.edu.
If a cow could...it would eat me....(just wow)
My dad Hunts
My parents will think it's stupid.
I hate Animals.
A cows utter will explode if left unmilked
vegans show no compassion to plants
Animal rights is just another religion
Early Ayurveda teaches omnivorism
The archaeological evidence for humans as omnivores is massive
......I'm sure I could keep on....but...I'll shut up.|||Me: "Why is it that the lion can chase down and eat the live deer but the human can't eat the dead chicken?"
Vegetarian: "Because as the more intelligent life form, we know better than to be so barbaric."
Me: "So what your saying is...humans know better than nature?"
...granted my last response came days later when the debate had long subsided but hopefully it's still valid and useful here.
Side note:-
I can understand why dairy would be left out of one's diet; it turns out humans are the only animals to consume milk after a young age and the only animal to consume the milk of another animal.|||I have no argument against vegan-ism. I think its every ones right to eat what they want. I just wish all the vegans that say im a murderer and that Im no better than a man that has killed a child just because I eat meat would think the same as I do.|||Haven't heard any real good arguments against the actual practice,just the motivation behind it.Mainly the ones who would rejoice at humanities death,I will expose them here.Sorry animals are not the same as people.|||Beer....potatoes....and a bloody steak on my grill...... Nothing more needs to be said... yum.|||I can't think of any valid reason to argue against a person's dietary choice.
It would be nice if vegetarians would show the same consideration to non-vegetarians.|||..ive never heard a good argument against veganism..and i never will
but dont worry your going to get plenty of omnivores who will tell you why we are stupid ..they will give you some arguments..|||The best arguments I've heard are pretty feeble. Basically "Meat tastes good" which is a lie. We cook it to hide the taste|||The best arguement is "I like meat". That's as good as it gets.|||god put them there to eat,to many animals if we didnt, there good|||Soya milk tastes awful in tea?|||who cares?
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im aware of the vitamins i'll have to take but i dont know which ones to be specific. but also what are the sort of side-effects that are going to come along with the change over? anything i do to let the people in my life not become concerned that im doing this for the wrong reasons? any and all help is thankful.|||At first it was hard to eat out, but now that I am more confident in being a vegan, I realize that there are so many options. And its just a matter of creativity.
Plus sometimes I had vegetarian days and I realized that I am not bad vegan, but just human so the next day I would continue being a vegan.
Plus your mental attitude towards things becomes more spiritual. 鈥?Example I became kinder, not just to animals but people that were having a hard time too. I am not sure if that was due to my own maturity or the change in diet influencing my own journey in life.
Edit: for people ,just tell them that you going be healthy, research all your health needs and just try your best for your own decision.|||Be diagnosed with about thirty food allergies. That's what did it for me :-D
Well, soy milk is a great alternative to regular milk. And great egg substitutes that you can make and put in foods you make are:
1 tsp. baking powder + 1 Tbsp liquid + 1 Tbsp vinegar
1.5 Tbs. water + 1.5 Tbs. Oil + 1 tsp. baking powder
1 Tbs. Pureed fruit (like bananas or apricots...but my favorite is applesauce)
Look up different things like Milk and Egg allergies, because a lot of times they list ingredients to look out for if you have food allergies, so you'll know to avoid them too because you're a vegan.
It's really easy, once you find some good snacks to keep around, and recipes you really like. Just stick with it, and congratulations!
http://www.kidshealth.org/teen/misc/milk鈥?/a>
http://www.kidshealth.org/teen/misc/egga鈥?/a>|||Yea know that when yo first switch over your gonna have to go to the bathroom. alotttt. It takes a while for your digestive system to get used to it.
And your parents kinda have to be willing to buy soy milk(silk is the best), and egg substitutes for baking( you can make your own or energ-e egg replacer is a good one..or somehting like that), maybe soy cheese, tofu, veggie burgers, and other things like that.
Also watch out for gelatin, mono and diglycerides, caseine, whey, lard, carmine(made from crushed up bugs=p)etc.
Most breads have mono and diglygerides(which are fats from animals) and that was my main problem. I eat a lot of pita bread now, mostly father sams brand if you can find that. also father sams tortillas are vegan.
I eat a whole lot of nuts like almonds, cashews, things like that for protein. I also eat soooo much fruit, probably more than i should haha.
You can find some good tofu recipes out there although you cant have tofu that much, its not a replacement for meat and should be eaten sparingly.
You should also try some hummus, its really good.
For margerines and butter umm i know light smart balance is vegan and i think light blue bonnet margerine.
If you go to a whole foods store there are tons of things there. Also you should definitely defintely take a vitamin every morning, and just try to avoid sodas, energy drinks, and coffee even if they are vegan.
Its not that hard to get used to, good luck!!|||I would recomment taking a supplement that is high in protein and B-12. I took Klamath Blue Green Algae and it really helped me, and it was the highest protein supplement that I could find. Heres a link, I hope that helps.|||There are no side effects of becoming vegan if you meet all of your nutritional needs with what you eat.
Soy milk is your friend. If you drink 16 ounces of soy milk a day you will meat your requirements for B12 and much more. You can have half of that on fortified breakfast cereal which is a must. The cereal is where you will get a wealth of other important nutrients.
In the beginning you may want to take a vegan friendly vitamin, but it isn't necessary.
I get my protein from faux meat at dinner and sometimes at lunch if I eat leftovers. I also eat peanut butter everyday. Nuts are also a great snack. A few nuts and you feel renewed and re-energized.
Faux meat comes in many varieties from many brands. There is ground, which is like ground beef. There is chick'n, smart dogs, meatless meatballs, beefless strips...You name it...
We also eat soy cheese macaroni every week. All you need is one pound of your fave pasta (whole wheat is healthier) and 1 pound of cheddar flavored soy cheese. Cut the cheese into tiny cubes and place it in a pan over high heat with about 1/4 cup of soy milk. Constantly stir as it heats to boiling. Then turn it off. When the pasta is aldente and drained, pour the cheese sauce over it and stir. You can time it out once you try it out a few times.
I hope everything works out for you and find this info helpful. E-mail me if you need anymore info :)|||I think milk is the hardest thing to give up. It has opiates in it and is somewhat addictive. I had panic attacks for a while when I went vegan, but my nutritional intake was probably not good at the time because I had no knowledge. I would say eat as many fruits and veggies as you care for, organic if possible and base your diet around that. I don't take any vitamins except for B-12 occasionally. Get in the sun as much as you want but don't overdo it. It is the best form of vitamin D. After that, have fun with it. There are many great ethnic dishes from around the world that are vegan or can easily be made vegan. My favorites are Thai, Middle Eastern, Mexican and sometimes Indian. Get some recipes online or in a good cookbook and start experimenting. I discovered a lot of great food after I went vegan that I might not have tasted otherwise if I had remained on the pizza-pasta-burger diet.|||purchase plenty of toilet paper
Do you think we can turn most of the vampires into vegans? I think we can with my 24 step program for meat and blood eaters. It will break anybody or thing from eating any meat product. It is People Opting for Organic Products (P.O.O.P). What do you think? Real answeres only please.|||hahaha thank you for making my night :)
sometimes this whole ashley thing isn't all that bad.|||sounds good....
But student teachers eat animals oKay? (S.T.E.A.K.) sounds better!|||LMAO!!! You just made my day. Thanks for that chuckle!|||Well, the biggest stumbling block to your plan is that (a) vampires aren't "traditional" meat eaters, and (b) vegetables - no matter HOW much you try and convince them otherwise - do NOT have red and white blood cells or platelets ... which is actually what the vampire consumes... not the meat.|||You'll never turn me! Viva la Vampirism!|||You could start with these vampires I heard of that love the sun and aren't killed by it. They're from Tansylvania.|||Every time I think you cant get any dumber with your questions ashley you do it. Because once again you have topped yourself, way to go I applaud you for topping your own stupidity almost every day.|||No, they need blood to survive. Otherwise they will die|||Sorry hun but, vampires don't exist.|||you made me chuckle like a little skool girl thnx! :)|||It seems to have escaped your attention but vampires AREN'T real. You should be in the FANTASY AND MYTH section dear.
There are vampire bats in south America but I don't think you will be able to persuade them to go vegetarian!!|||I assume that means you will use vegan ghosts in your system?
Vegan is a lifestyle that implies moral concern for animals.
If you're talking about a vegan DIET (or a plant-based diet/strict vegetarianism) vs a lacto-ovo vegetarian diet...
http://www.dawnwatch.com/vegan_health.ht鈥?/a>
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display鈥?/a>
It really comes down to what and how much you're eating.
A vegan who lives on cookies & diet pepsi is going to be unhealthier than a lacto-ovo vegetarian (or even an omni) who eats mostly fresh produce and eats an animal product once a week (although we know how rare that would be.)|||None really unless you consider the intake of eggs and cheese and milk unhealthy - and some people do.|||A vegan diet contains even fewer toxins and contaminants than a vegetarian diet.|||Less saturated fat. No cholesterol intake. Lower risks of having heart disseases, diabetes, osteoporosis, hipertenssion, "articulation" problems, and some others.
Now there are many studies saying that dairy is not as healthy for humans as the whole world used to say. It is in discussion today, though. But what麓s not on discussion is that going vegan it is INFINITELY better for cow麓s health.
Humans are supossed to drink human-milk as long as their lactancy period lasts. There is NO study that states that humans SHOULD keep on drinking milk after this period. In fact, humans are the only animals that keep drinking milk during it麓s lifetime...and milk FROM OTHER SPECIES!
But more than all that the best benefits you will get going vegan are...your concience at peace, your mind at peace, your spirit at peace...therefor, your whole body at peace.
Not to mention that you will be doing something to achieve non-human animals peace.
For empathy and respect. I麓m Vegan.|||You're comparing a lifestyle with a diet. As far as vegan food goes, probably lower intake of bad cholesterol and saturated fats from eggs and dairy.
klink---a vegan can't use commercially grown organic produce because of the fertilizer/animal connection and must use the GM produce which is heaped with chemical pesticides and fertilizers. This contradicts your statement.
smoother skin, healthier skin colour, more energy, no bad breath...
I do think that being a vegeterian brings more health spiritually, rather than physically.|||your colon will be cleaner.|||vegetarian diet is pretty balanced...so you get enough vitamins and minerals, as well as protein for your body......veg diet keeps every part of our body fine and healthy...|||Beyond peace of mind I have no idea.
I need to buy a book about becoming vegan with some good recipes as well, but can't chose which one to get! Any recommendations?|||Vegan freak is good for finding out about vegan life in general (and for dealing with all the 'mmmm meat' comments you'll get!)
Vegan with a vengeance has great (and easy) recipes in it.
Veganomicon is also very good.
There are plenty out there, but these are my particular favourites.|||Skinny Bi!ch, and Skinny Bi!ch in the kitchen. - they are both very popular, easy to read and helpyou get started.
For cooking, try veganomicon.|||You might want to order a starter guide instead, as many have recipes in the back. Most books about becoming vegan don't have recipes in them.
If you live in North America, go to www.cok.net, and you can order a starter guide and a mini recipe booklet.|||If you want something covering a broad range of vegan concerns, a good jumping off point is "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Vegan Living." It has some nutritional information, some information on avoiding hidden animal ingredients and sourcing cruelty-free products, some information on vegan diplomacy and some recipes. It also includes suggestions for further reading.
If you're primarily looking for nutritional information, you can't beat "Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina.|||You should go on the web site www.compassionatecooks.com. The woman who runs the site has a great podcast that I listen to all the time and she writes cook books.|||hi try the vegan society @ http://www.vegansociety.com
they have tons of info! good luck! :)|||The website below will be of immense help answering some questions for you. It also has a great new recipe ebook with outstanding recipes, most of which are vegan and not only nutritious but tasty and easy to make.
I suggest you check it out.
I am concerned about cult influence that my kids may be exposed to at public schools. I have heard horror stories about other vegans convincing kids to throw away their meat out of their lunch boxes. I work very hard to make sure my kids have lunch boxes that include good wholesome meats. I don't want my kids to get sick from not eating meat.|||Yeah, you should probably keep your kids locked in the house so they are never exposed to other cultures, religions, or philosophies.
I mean, why would you want to let them decide for themselves when you could choose their path and make them be the person you want them to be?
It is always better to feed children lies and misconceptions about people that do not think like you, that way they fail to adjust to society and refuse to live with an open mind.
Good job! Thanks for living up to everything we knew a meat-eater should be!|||make sure that you feed your kids meat at home and as a snack after shcool|||Tell them one day over dinner that some poeple have different views about eating meat. Tell them that it is OK if they decide that they don't want to eat meat for ethical reasons, but stress that it is important that you know if this is what they want to do so that they can get the nutrients they would normally get from meat from other places instead and if you're still worried make eggie lasagne with minced turkey.|||Well i think we should just hang those lily-livered vegans from the lampposts with a length of good meat sausages.
'Horror stories?' It's a fact of life that all kids throw away half their lunchbox contents as soon as their parent drops them off at the school gates. At least your childrens' vegan friends won't be chomping on bacon butties and so might at least limit the nutritional damage. Besides, can't you just cook meat for your kids at dinner when they get home (they surely don't need to eat meat twice a day)?|||'Wholesome' and 'meat' , classic example of an oxymoron!|||If you have kids, then frankly I'm scared for them. Who is going to protect them from the cult of the Rednecks?|||Oh my dear, if you consider veganism a cult you badly need to get some research done!!!
And just for the record (from a meat eater!) vegans can be very healthy and well nourished with the diet they eat.
What is wrong with your children discovering other ways of living/eating? They may grow up with a broader mind that you appear to have!|||I am so sorry to hear that you have been brainwashed, since you apparently believe that "veganism" is a cult and that meat should be eaten every day.
I really feel sorry for your children.|||I've never heard of that happening in a school. If it does, just switch schools|||My suggestion to you:
Eat lots and LOTS of steak and eggs (try them raw), cheeses, and wash it all down with milk. Hopefully, you will die from a nasty bout of botulism, colon cancer, or have a heart attack before you can spread your stupidity to your innocent children.|||Read first and then make statements about having meat at every meal. What a crock!
Some of the healthiest people in the world are vegans.and vegetarians.
You know what? We all die; some of us just take longer and are in less pain along the way.
Vegan is not a CULT. It is a legitimately healthy and morally strict way of eating--that's it.
There may be cultish behavior going on in your school, and fanatics come in all eating habits.
I bet Saddam Hussein is a meat-eater. I know Hitler was!
If you want to help your children be healthy, give them a multi-vitamin every day, and keep them out of high fat (meat)and high sugar foods. Encourage them to eat a wide variety of foods.
Anybody will tell you that fruits and veggies and grains are very healthy.Watch their portions.
There are certainly more poweful and dangerous cult-like influences in public school, and one is having illiterate and fear-mongering parents running for cover at anything they don't understand!|||i love that you consider veganism a cult, that is really entertaining. But you shouldn't worry too much most vegans I know don't really push their ideas that far. As long as your kids like meat they will continue to eat it.
And if you are really worried let them eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches at lunch, or salad, or pasta, just give them their meat for dinner|||As I'm sure you know, your kids won't get sick from not eating meat.
If it's a genuine concern, take it up with the school and ask them to deal with the people who you think are unduly influencing your children.|||being vegan is not being part of a cult. it is simply one persons choice of diet. i have never heard such stories as meat being poisened.
where an earth do you live that has all this neg vegan activity going on?|||wow....seeing how the 'thumbs-down' flag has massively tilited this question into downfall, and 98% of everyone here who answered your question, concurs (that means, "agrees with") with our fellow veggie/vegan friends.
and i think this question has been answered to death in far better ways, so i think i don't even have to open my mouth. i am going to simply smile and nod at the victoriousness of those who are educated, compassionate, tolerant, accepting, moral, ethical, HEALTHY...|||The key to keeping your children safe from outside influences is a good
relationship with them. Treat them with kindness and respect and they
will listen to you. Part of the respect part is that you let them make decisions
for themselves once you have given your imput. They cannot follow you
blindly. They are individuals; they have their own ideas. Keep talking.
Keep caring. They are soaking up what you believe just by being with
you. If they decide that they want to be veggies I suggest you humour
them. In the long run children rarely stay opposed to parental influence
for very long, unless they are met with opposition. Play it cool. Number 1
rule of parenting. If you lose your cool you lose your credibility. Peace.|||Excuse me? I was not aware of it but I really appreciate you telling me that I am in a cult. I'm glad that someone knows my lifestyle more then I do.
You are one of the most sterotypical people ever.
"I don't want my kids to get sick from not eating meat."do some research and grow up. Vegetarians alot of the time are more healthy eatters then meat eatters.|||How you choose to feed your own children is none of my business. How others choose to feed theirs is none of yours.
Vegan cultism - don't be silly.
Where are you getting your incorrect nutrional information? Before you go around claiming things like meat is needed for a complete balanced diet, perhaps you should actually research the topic. Otherwise you look like an ill informed idiot. Oops, too late.|||YOUR NUTS TO CALL VEGANISM A CULT!
There is nothing wrong with veganism if it's done properly. I however am not a vegan but
I am a vegetarian. I have been much healther since not consuming any dead flesh. Meat is dead. If you eat something dead you make yourself someone dead. Don't fight your kids
read up on veganism.. make sure you have all the healthy alternative.. soya milk, soya cheese, soya beans. You might luck out and they get sick if soya stuff and go back to meat eating. However if they like soya stuff lots at least you helped them to do it rightly. Also it's a no no to go cold turkey from meat eating to vegetarian or vegan ways.. it should be done gradually.. cause the body has to adjust. The body is in manner like a vehicle.. if it's use to one kind of fuel and you suddenly change it there'll be problems! Food is Fuel for the body.
Your car or truck would have problems too if you suddenly changed it's fuel from what you normally use in it! You could change things there too but it should be done gradually.
All vegetarians and vegans should eat at least 2 fruits and 1 vegetable daily. The difference between vegans and vegetarians
is the vegans won't even drink dairy products
and won't eat eggs either.. In my opinion that's
a bit extremist cause no animal dies because of
consuming such items. Vegetarians.. most become vegetarian because they would never kill an animal so they feel they don't have the right to eat them. I agree with that thinking. Leave the meat eating to the animal killers! Although I'm a vegetarian and IF there was nothing around not even an edible plant and I was truly starving then I probably would eat
animal luckily that will never happen cause there's all kinds of edible plants in the bush.
Sure some aren't tasty.. example pine needle soup is edible but not good tasting! But if it was mixed with rosehips or wild strawberries
that be different! Meat eating is wasn't ment
for a regular diet. Meat is only ment for if one is
starving and there's nothing else to eat! I know Hunters disagree on this point. They are the ones that push the meat eating thing. If there's any cult to do with Food.. it's You Hunters and your meat eating!.. However in reality cults don't have anything to do with Vegetarianism or Meat eating! Unless you are thinking culture not occult!|||Kids don't need protection because it's not a cult.
You have ask a lot of questions in this forum. Why don't you put that time into research rather than wanting to get a rise out of people you know nothing about. I am a vegetarian because it is cruel to animals and I am perfectly healthy without it.|||Your kids don't need to eat meat (protein is high in over foods like prunes) it's cruel and unnecessary the vegans are right throw away your sandwich meat and save the animals.
some good vegan sites take a look....
www.peta.com
www.peta2.com
www.kfcruelty.com
www.helpinganimals.com
www.iamscruelty.com
www.savethesheep.com|||I don't think you can refer to vegans as a cult. They have a set of views about not eating meat or using any animal products.
You should educate your children on the benefits of what you consider a balanced diet and leave them to make up their own minds.
Given the state of public schools today, I would imagine that rabid vegans are the least of your worries!|||kids are going to be and do what they like all's we can do is teach them and pray they make the right decision.|||Skipping meat isn't going to make your kids sick. I would think you'd need to worry more about the guns, drugs, and sex going on in public school than if they throw their meat away.
Of course you could always keep your kids at home so they wouldn't be exposed to real life.|||Veagan cult? what the hell is that? you need to do more research before open your mouth so wide. theres no such thing.
so whats so wrong about becoming a Vegetarian? just because you aren't one doesn't mean your kids can't become one. your kids would benifit from eating less meat. heart desiase, high cholesterol, clogged arteries, excess body fat come from eating too much meat. kids need to eat more fruits and veggies anyway.
you might benfit as well eating less meat.
your kids will become sicker eating meat then not eating meat!|||stop buying les of mince and buy good cuts of meat|||I'm worried about the safety of your children too.
Although the reason I'm worried has little to do with diet.|||Your kids won't get sick from not eating meat. Talk to them about how much food costs and that they should not throw it away. Then ask them what kind of food they want. If they don't want meat, give them another protein source - nuts, fake meat, dairy, eggs, etc.
In addition, talk to them about what vegan and vegetarianism is so that they understand.|||gosh there is some real serious vegans on this site ..its scary me I'm normal change your kids school it sounds like its got a problem everyone has a choice if your kids want to be veggies that's OK if they don't that's OK vegans no that's no OK ....to extreme have a word with the head teacher if you dare|||Don't you have anything better to do with your life than than sit around asking stupid and fatuous questions in this section? Do you actually know any vegans or vegetarians? I don't really think you have any serious points to make and are just asking ill-informed questions under a provocative name out of aggression.
Here's some fact's for you:
1. Not all veggies are evangelical about their life style choice.
2. It is possible to eat a balanced vegetarian diet with all the right nutrients.
3. It's not bad for your skin.
4. Veggies aren't weaklings. I could kick your butt any day of the week, pal.|||I am offended by both the question and the vegans answering it. I wouldnt refer to veganism as a cult, but it is not high in my list of values lists. I've seen animal rights protests in which I've seen people wear leather. some people are extreme and sure I do love to throw meat a peta people.
I am extremely concerned for the planet becuase the consumption of meat depletes our precious resources like freshwater, land, trees. The pollution it produces, and the global hunger that it causes. How can we show people the devastating effects of their diet and how to change their destructive habits? I'm not saying we should take meat away from people, but so that they can reduce their consumption.|||Live by example. It's really the simplest method. I really do not do anything, but live my life and I have influenced so many people. They see what I'm doing, how simple it is, and that I haven't starved to death, or become ill, or whatever their silly imagination can come up with. They see that I'm fit, energetic, youthful... They ask questions... I answer them. I never tell anyone anything, they always ask eventually. At work, people ask questions about my lunch (since I always make a from-scratch lunch for myself and family, and they almost never do, and my lunch looks an smells good, so they start asking questions like) "What is that?" "You always have such interesting lunches." bla bla bla, and eventually they notice that there's never meat in there, or perhaps I decline an offer to have some of their meat or dairy food they are eating etc. and people put two and two together. I get fewer and fewer questions about where I get nutrients etc. from as people like me spread general information around about food, nutrition, etc. and nearly everyone knows another vegan, "Oh, my sister..." Sure, people will say, "I could never live without my meat," but in reality, I've met people like that who, one year later, have given up their meat. It's a shift in perspective, is all. We don't really need to be trying to hammer information into people, just trying to shift their perspective, because they already KNOW, they just have to see it.|||we need to educate ourselves, stay educated and approach people in a thoughtful and reasonable manner. we can't come charging at people accusing them of things that they very well may not be aware of of. we can't be abrasive or self righteous. my approach is purely for health reasons. some people may not care about the earth, but they may care about how long they live.|||Education. There will always be all those dearest hunters who are beyond reach; but the only hope is to educate as many people as possible. Some of them might learn something by accident in the process, but don't hold your breath.
So the best thing you can do is arm yourself with the facts. Don't trouble yourself with material from peta or greenpeace, go straight to the source: the United Nations Environment Program and FAO. The reports they produce are the result of scientific analysis and these are where pro-veg organisations get their material from (when it's true). If you use material from peta people will say "oh but thats peta, they are crap blah blah blah" but if its from the united nations it is much harder to argue with (except for climate change deniers, who already know that the UN are nostril deep in the conspiracy lol).
If someone responds to some of your facts with (for example) a claim that world hunger is a distribution problem rather than a production problem, you can point to the data in the UNEP report which shows that population is set to increase to 9 billion by 2050 and their projection that food production needs to double in order to STAY AT PRESENT COSTS or it will become significantly more expensive. Chances are we will not be able to produce that much anyway, due to the already significant impacts on biodiversity from agriculture RIGHT NOW. So starvation is only a distribution problem if you think about it in terms of the past and ignore the immediate future.
So immerse yourself in the data and have your bases covered in preparation for those who assume that what they think is true despite never having researched it.|||Well first it doesn't cause ANY world hunger. World hunger is mainly a distribution problem. There already is enough food in the world, the problem is getting it to them along with poverty, and corrupt governments. When there already is enough food planting more won't help.
Yes you are right about pollution and resources. But EVERY industry causes these same problems. Even produce (fruits/vegetables) farming. So are you concerned about this industry also and the countless others or is you focus just on meat?
Don't listen to GC the so called vegan biologist. Even the united nations has admitted that their report is false and over exaggerated.|||What do you think the result would be if everyone stopped eating meat this second ? I don't know what you based this conclusion on but you are not getting your information in the real world .There are so many real problems in the world you could worry about and it's sad to see that once again satan has placed an imaginary burden upon someones shoulders to cause them to spend their precious time and energy trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist .You could try to figure out if you are right with God or not and think about what will happen to you once you die but I am sure the mere mention of this will sound like complete foolishness to you until the day that you die and then it will be the one and only thing so many people will worry about but it will be to late. But then again what do I know|||People should be able to eat what they want. Its great that you want to help the planet, but people have been eating meat since the beginning of their existence and it hasn't affected them in a bad way. If you want to help the planet, then create more recycling stations and make more things biodegradable. Don't start telling people they shouldn't eat meat. They choose to eat it, so let them. Eating meat isn't destructive, its human nature.|||You can start by minding your own business.|||Aree you a freegan?
The most popular brand of soymilk is Silk. Who owns Silk? Probably the largest dairy company in the world.
Morningstar Farms is owned by Kellogg Co. Huge farms kill lots of animals in production of those cornflakes you eat every day.
That's just two major "veg*n" brands that you likely support every day while you moan about the rest of us eating meat. There are many, many more. Not to mention the tofu you eat might well be made from soybeans grown where the rainforest in Brazil used to be.
Until you make the leap into freeganism, you've got no grounds to tell the rest of us how to live.
"The creator of Freegan.info, Adam Weissman, elaborated on consumer veganism’s comparative shortfalls in an interview with Satya magazine:
The word freegan was chosen largely to satirize an attitude prevalent among many vegans who seem unconcerned about the social and ecological impacts of the goods they purchase—so long as they are vegan. Sweatshop-made Nike shoes are fine, as long as they aren’t leather. Chocolate soymilk is great, despite the destruction of rainforests, exploitation of child slaves in the African chocolate trade and use of GMO plants.
The term freegan was created to express the notion that to live the “cruelty-free” lifestyle vegans advocate, we need to remove ourselves as much as possible from the capitalist economy, rather than taking the tunnel-vision perspective that we should only be concerned about animal flesh and secretions.
To many vegans, freeganism may seem marginal or extreme. Yet many vegans fail to recognize that the organized vegan community reflects bourgeoisie, white, liberal cultural norms, and to people outside of this demographic, eating tofu instead of hamburger can seem far weirder than getting good food that a store has needlessly thrown away.
Organic farmers will shoot, trap and poison mammals, birds and insects as readily as non-organic farmers—they simply won’t do it with petroleum-based pesticides. And of course, many organic farmers subsidize animal agriculture by using factory farm manure to fertilize their crops. Even agriculture practices not intended to harm animals cause massive numbers of deaths—machine threshers chop animals to bits, animals on land or in dens are crushed under agricultural machinery, small animals are shredded as soil is tilled.
I came to realize that for an animal liberationist, an organic, vegan diet was a lot like buying meat at the supermarket—being complicit in animal oppression, but letting someone else do the dirty work, so we don’t have to think about it."
http://letthemeatmeat.com/
Cause I'm a Vegetarian, and I've been really healthy since, and now I want to go Vegan, but I'm completely dependent on dairy products. Milk in my cereal & coffee & cheese in my subs. How did you vegans make the transitions, and did you feel better physically afterwards?|||I read about the plight of dairy cows and the insipid chemicals/hormones/somatic cells in milk and milk products. It's really a cruel business and when I thought about how these animals are suffering from birth to death, I thought to myself: how can I continue eating animal by-products?
I weighed the pros and cons of going vegan and I couldn't think of many "cons" except for more trouble eating out, etc. I figured out that I was only eating dairy and eggs for my tastebuds. Once I found that I was contributing to farm animal abuse practices simply for my selfish tastebuds, it was an easy choice for me to make to go vegan.
I have soymilk in my cereal. There are vegan cheeses out there but they don't taste like the real thing, so I usually just go without (I know this sounds hard, but you will get to a point where the cravings disappear).
I feel in better health now. My blood pressure has dropped 20 points. And I am lighter too. But my energy levels are basically the same as before.|||Hi, it took me about 2 months to go from vegetarian to vegan, I firstly cut out eggs completely, which was relatively easy as I didn't consume many as a vegetarian. Then I gradually cut down on my milk, cheese and butter, replacing it with soya spread, soya milk and vegan cheese.
Soya milk in cereals is lovely, but tea and coffee took a bit of getting used to for me. I use alpro soya milk, I find this is one of the nicest!
It is worth looking around the health food shops for alternatives before you start the transition, just so you get an idea of all the vegan food that is available now!
Really worth visiting the vegan society website http://www.vegansociety.com
for info and recipes! :) And yes I did feel slightly better on a vegan diet! :)|||First I cut out eggs. Then I slowly replaced milk with soy milk. After I was fine with this, i replaced butter with oil or vegan margarine (Earth Balance). The last item I cut out was cheese, It truthfully was the hardest one to cut out (compared to the other Vegetarian鈥揘on-vegan items). It took me around 4 months completely to do the transition, which is a bit longer than the average but it seemed fine to me. I would cut out one item (ex. eggs) and wait till i was completely adjusted to having that item omitted from my diet, then I would move to the next one.
I honestly feel great since I've adopted veganism (3 years ago). In fact, it felt soo good that I continued with veganism for the past few years.
Personally I wouldn't advocate jumping straight to cheese replacements (soya cheese etc.) right away. It will be easier to cope with your adjustments to a vegan diet, if you don't try to replace cheese, with vegan alternatives. After not having a cheese for a course of time, you will no longer *miss* it, and the though of even cheese alternatives won't even seem that appealing it.
Please understand that I am speaking about cheese only. Vegan Margarine is so incredibly tasty and more preferable than vegetable oils, and soy milk is almost a staple of the vegan diet.
Good luck and remember to take it slowly, but surely. Its much better if you pace yourself and adopt slowly but stay consistent with the bigger picture ahead in the future. And most importantly Thanks for your interest and once again goodluck.|||I became a Vegetarian in February and then 2 weeks later a Vegan. I have to be honest, I was a true-blue milk baby. I used to drink at least 2-6 full glasses of milk A DAY. And cheese? Oh please. I ate cheese on EVERYTHING. And I loved ham and cheese omelettes (with a big glass of milk of course!). I was here on this site and saw where someone had put a link to a site that would supposedly really open your eyes about dairy products. Boy, did it ever! Here's the link: http://www.notmilk.com and also http://wwwmilksucks.com
The inhumanity and torture these poor cows go through, and the egg-laying hens, it's ridiculous and cruel and it turned my stomach to the point where I could never drink milk or eat cheese or eggs again. The health benefits of giving up dairy is unreal. Did you know that milk has trace amounts of blood and pus in it and is linked to everything from ADHD to Crohn's Disease? I can see now that humans are not meant to drink the breast milk of other species. What was I thinking??? And as far as feeling better, I no longer have heartburn, stomach aches, digestive problems, etc.
Check out those sites. It will change your mind, I promise.|||Dairy? Don't eat cheese. Easy. Put soymilk or other milk on cereal -- in fact, stop eating cereal too -- eat something healthy such as oatmeal. There are lots of vegetarian and vegan cheeses out there too.
Yeah, felt physically better afterwards. I also cut out all other animal products at the same time, so can't speak specifically for dairy.|||I skipped vegetarianism and went straight to veganism. I use Soy milk (Silk brand) and soy cheese, and havent missed anything. Ive lost 15 Lbs, and it's been 5 weeks-ish
Please supply your sources if possible. Thanks!
What are other reasons to go vegetarian or vegan?|||http://www.downtoearth.org/goveggie/envi鈥?/a>
This is a very informative website on the environmental impacts of the food industry.
Here is a good video to watch. It explains some of the environmental impacts, and the impacts of going vegan. http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/ac鈥?/a>|||i have the perfect web site 4 u:
www.flex.com/~jai/articles/101.html|||I'm not a vegan, but don't eat much of meat from poultry animals, mostly from fish. For your request, here's a good link.|||To save lives of animals. The less meat you eat the less animals get slaughtered.
:]|||Water conservation. I forget the exact figures but comparatively, it takes quite a bit more water to produce a pound of meat than, say a pound of lettuce or apples. I remember the difference being pretty substantial.|||Here is a great website. http://vegetarian.about.com/od/vegetarianvegan101/f/environment.htm
Vegetarianism actually has a great impact on the environment. Other reasons to go veggie or vegan are to benefit the animals, it helps reduce world hunger (it takes 17 pounds of grain to make one pound of meat), and is also much healthier (if you eat nutritiously.)|||United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (news):
http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006鈥?/a>
Full Report:
http://www.fao.org/docrep/010/a0701e/a07鈥?/a>
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestock%2鈥?/a>|||Without doing research, I'm going to say it doesn't. Even though you're buying and eating your way out of a part of a corrupt system and not supporting animal cruelty, you still need land for food.
It's like biofuel. It seemed like a great idea, but if you don't reuse cooking oil, then biofuel companies will have to farm more to grow more corn. What lives in open land? Animals. So they get pushed out of their natural habitat. Not to mention, trees get cut down. What happens when we cut down trees that used to suck up carbon monoxide? Eventually, global warming. (could take over 100 years...)
I personally believe that humanity's existence is bad for the environment. There are things we can do to try to help and slow down the imminent destruction of our planet, but for the most part, the longer we exist, and the more our population grows, the worse off the earth is.|||it doesn't
Family, friends, informative websites or videos, other?|||Compassion, love of animals, i just plain think we veg-heads are sexier. (it sounds egotistical but to me it's true) for health, for the earth. I honestly believe in what Ghandi said about how a nations progress can be judged by how they treat their animals. If we don't respect and treat kindly what we consider "beneath" us (which I disagree with) how can we treat other human beings with respect if we consider certain races or countries beneath us? I think if the world was based on a vegetarian belief system that we wouldn't have as much violence as we do today. Violence begets violence. I've been a vegetarian since i was 8 and a vegan since 19 (24 now) my life wouldn't be livable if I hurt those I love and caused pain. Meat is murder.|||I have always been a vegetarian since i was 6 i'm now in my late 30's and i have always wanted to be a vegan i never ate eggs anyway and coul'nt bring myself to drink milk and hav'nt for along time so it felt natural for me to become vegan. Alot of reasons one is the cruelty to animals the way they are farmed and kept . another is i dont think milk from cows is very natural or the way they are pumped full of hormones and other stuff is that great for you either and the rubbish there fed.|||The PETA website when my health was failing. PETA and the Vegan Diet has changed my life for the better! I am not only healthier but have become a much better person as a result! I do not look at food, nature, or animals the same way!|||About a year ago, my dog, who was like a second member of my family, died suddenly. It was at that moment I realized that there wasn't really a difference between my dog and any other animal in the world. The way that I loved her could be expressed for any animal: a pig, a cow, a chicken. It is still, as I work my way to being a vegetarian completely, nearly impossible for me to separate the difference between my dog and someone else's cow or pig.|||its so long ago i dont remember the specifics, but i have been an animal lover since i was very young, we always had some pets so i always had the opportunity to see their side
as to when and why i actualyl became vege, i was 12 and our family friend was a vege and an inspiration to me and kinda put me on the path as well as all the docus about animal cruelty|||www.youtube.com/SaveOurPlanetBeVegan
I have been vegan for almost 4 years. During that time, my bipolar disorder, GAD and self injury have gotten worse. I make sure to get enough B12, iron, and omega 3s, but I've always wondered if somehow my veganism was making me worse. I DO NOT want to start eating animal products again, but I wonder if there's any truth to my fears. Please post links to back up your claims if at all possible.|||Sweetie, this is a question for your psychiatrist, and not a bunch of strangers on YA. Make sure he knows your a vegan since he may need to adjust your medications.|||Well you need to delve into this yourself. Getting your family Dr to do an evaluation of your eating habits. Yes if you have a mineral vitamin or element deficiency it can cause all kinds of problems, and the longer it goes unchanged, the more damage can be done. It is your life, it is your health, its you duty unto yourself to do something about it. You cite 3 simple things I know you watch more but I think you do not realize how the elements tie into each other for maximum absortption to the body. I would if I were you keep a journal, wrte the food, the quanity, cooked or raw, for each meal and snack. After one week of this, take it to your dr, he may send you to a nutritionist for evaluation which would be wonderful! I wish you luck, you need to possibly read more, and impliment more foods in your diet for peak nutrition. Its not about where the food comes from, its about maintaining life in your body.|||If a diet were contributing to a mental illness it would do it through a chemical deficiency...however, this is unlikely and even more unlikely to be brought on through a vegan diet.
Obviously you have some problems you are dealing with but what a crock to say that your self injury flare up is because of your diet. If anything syndromes like that are due in particular to social or emotional triggers. (Speaking from exp.)
Go to your doctor.|||It is possible, though it certainly isn't causing your mental illness. (Big duh there.) There are some nutrients that are known to help with mental illness that are harder to get as a vegan, tryptophan being one of them.
This link talks about some of the amino acids, where to get them, and how we use them. I'd suggest looking at it and thinking about whether you might be deficient in any.
http://www.alive.com/645a2a2.php?subject鈥?/a>
That being said, sometimes you need to change treatments because your current approach isn't working. Sometimes your life circumstances change, sometimes it's your body's reaction to the treatment. If you're taking medications, talk to your doctor about adjusting your dose or the type of meds you're using.
In the meantime, do whatever you can for your health and well-being... get some exercise, spend some time outside, and take time for yourself as often as you can. Avoid things that could wind up making you feel icky (like too much booze, sugar, caffeine, white flour, your neighbor's yappy dog... whatever).
Remember, this too shall pass. :-)|||You may be anemic from lack of protein. I am Because I eat almost no protein. Your mental illness may be manifesting itself more profoundly with age. Stay in close communication with your psychiatrist, MD, and therapist. If you do support groups attend them regularly if not join. Some times are mental illness will develop and increase in intensity over time. Seek Help And you could be better.|||I really don't see what the connection would be, but if you think it might be the case, I'd suggest you go in for a blood test. That will tell you if you have any nutritional deficiencies that may be causing problems.|||No I don't think there is a connection between veganism and mental illness. But you definitely need to talk to a professional about problems. Take care.|||There are no truths to your fears. You probably aren't getting the necessary nutrition that you should be. Go talk to a doctor.|||It's nothing to do with being vegan. Non-vegans can have diet related mental as well.
You should try getting high doses of vitamin B Complex. When I was in the tropics I started having anxiety and depression and when I talked to my doctor he said I had a B deficiency. After about four days taking about 1000% b complex my mood improved greatly. The change was amazing.
Make sure you get you Bs in a liquid form. Most pills go right through you. I knew a guy who worked for a port-a-potty and he said pills went right through people. You can get vegan B Complex no problem. You should be taking extra B anyway since you can't get sick from too much. Kava may help too. How is your potassium intake? If you are not eating dairy then OJ is a great source.
http://www.oohoi.com/healthy_living/vita鈥?/a>
Vitamin B deficiency can be masked by many things and too often people are not even aware that they are deficient. It may not even create serious health problems right away. Researchers have discovered that more often than not there are no detectable symptoms of a Vitamin B deficiency. Researchers have found that cognitive deficits caused by a Vitamin B deficiency are evident long before Vitamin B deficiency shows up in the blood. This is an indication that certain mental disorders may be caused by Vitamin B deficiency. With this in mind, it may be a better solution to treat mental health issues by replenishing stores of Vitamin B rather than through drugs or psychological therapy.
Also read Eight Weeks to Optimal Health, by Andrew Weil, which has both Vegan and Non-Vegan nutrition information in it.|||You need to talk to a shrink. You sound to me like someone who is perpetually afraid of everything. That fear can be desensitized somewhat by counseling.
Ethical concerns aside, as living organisms we require the kind of diet that includes meat or at the very least a substitute for meat.
When a pregnant lady chooses not to eat meat or products derived from animals, she can be putting her child's life or development in danger. At least, that is what I have heard.
Does anyone have any scientific data either supporting or denying this?
If adults choose not to eat meat, that is their choice.But growing children need a proper diet, and vegetables are not the sole source of the essentials required for proper development. That's my opinion... does anyone have an educated argument either for or against it?|||Whilst it is easier to get the elements necessary for developing life from meat/diary products, as long as a carefully balanced diet is followed, there is no reason why a mother to be should not be a vegan.
As a small example, Soya milk is actually higher in calcium that cows milk.
Where I do not agree with the vegetarian/vegan way of life is when a child is not allowed to eat meat. The child should be allowed to make up his/her own mind when they are old enough.|||YES ITS DANGEROUS. NOT EATING MEAT DEPRIVES YOU OF PROTIENS, MINERALS AND AMINO ACIDS THAT YOUR BODY NEEDS. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT A DEVELOPING BABY NEEDS. ESPECIALLY THE PROTIEN.|||B-12 is absolutely essential and can only be found in meat! as an adult not pregnant, be a vegan. but, when you are pregnant...you must eat some form of meat. and studies show that B-12 supplements are not the same.|||I haven't heard of it being harmful to an unborn child when the mother eliminates meat however it is recommended that a pregnant woman consume 60 grams of protein a day. There are alternative means of consuming protein other than meat but protein is essential for a pregnant women to take in it is the building blocks of life Ive been told.
In my opinion children should be allowed to eat meat if they choose to and that decision should not be made by the parent.I understand that a parent may want to restrict fatty, sugar filled foods however like you said vegetables alone are not adequate nutrition for proper development.|||I am a vegan, so is my partner and our children will be raised as vegans until they can make a decision on their own.
I've spoken a dietician regarding this issue, and she was a vegan herself, with one healthy 20 month old and pregnant. She had nothing to say bad about being a vegan. I also spoke a lot to a food scientist who was a non-vegetian and said nothing bad about being a vegan while pregnant or as a child.
You need calcium, protein, vitamins etc, in a vegan diet just like a vegetarian diet or meat filled diet. I get all of those, and plenty of them. In fact I would say the fetus would be 'healthier' because you need to eat more nutritious food to get the same amount of vitamins in most cases, therefore getting an array of vitamins and nutrients from food sources. A non-pregnant vegan woman gets about 65 grams of protein per day, you only need 71 grams per day while pregnant, and adding a piece of toast with peanut butter and a glass of soy milk would fill this space.
Soy is filled with protein, calcium and sometimes vitamin D, as well as omega 6 & 3 not from animal sources, and 8 essential amino acids.
You get 3.3 grams of protein from only 100 ml of soy milk.
I think a vegan woman who is pregnant needs to be very health conscious about what she eats, and this will greatly impact the growing child in a positive way.
Eating chips and diet sodas are fine in a meat eaters diet, although they contain no nutrients and can cause the mother to gain unnecessary weight as well as have blood sugar levels to rocket and dip. Eating frequently under a healthy vegan diet will not do that.
If you compare the diets of a pregnant woman to the diet of a vegan pregnant woman, you can see the amount of thought and care a vegan woman puts in her diet. The amount of food she eats, and the food that she eats.
You cannot drop ethics in talking about a vegan diet, because ethics is the reason for most vegans choice in food.
A vegan pregnant woman gets all the protein and calcium required for human health, including during pregnancy and child raising, are available in foods that grow from the earth; soy, tofu, lentils, vegetable, fruits, starches, nuts, seeds and grains.
A pregnant woman most likely would have lover cholesterol and blood pressure. A pregnant non-vegetarian is most likely eating chemicals, hormones and antibiotics, pesticides in the milk she drinks and the food she eats, where as a vegan would not.
A vegan woman doesn鈥檛 need to worry about not eating non-pasteurized foods, un cooked meats, deli meats, fish containing mercury, etc etc. Rest your mind, we vegans are fine.
Unless you are considering becoming a vegan or your wife is a vegan don鈥檛 worry about this topic. Each woman is allowed to eat what she feels is best for herself, and her family.
To me this means not eating anything coming from animals (or wearing them, and doing my best for the environment), and to you it might be different.
Do you research, it is very easy to reach all the 鈥榬equirements鈥?for a health diet through veganism, and if you are not fully covered, that is what pre-natal vitamins are for. I鈥檓 sure all non-vegetarian mothers to be take them for the same reason. Just in case you miss you glass of orange juice.
Ask your Doctor if you are truly concerned and not just getting people revved up in YA.|||That is a huge misconception. Essential nutritients, vitamins, minerals, and building blocks for healthy development of the baby can be found in a number of foods, not only animals and animal byproducts.
They can receive their proteins from peas, nuts, beans, other legumes, seeds, peanut butter, or tofu to name a few.
Calcium can be found in Soy Milk, leafy green vegetables, dried beans or peas, and tofu.
Vitamin D, when not taking in any dairy products, can be received by getting 10 to 15 minutes of direct sunlight to the hands, face, or arms three times per week or take a supplement as prescribed by their health care providers.
As B12 is an animal and animal byproduct vitamin, it will be necessary to supplement B12.
Think about it - which is more healthy: the crazy diets most people put themselves on, including Atkins, greasy chips, carbonated syrup (soda), butter dripping shrimp, high cholesterol fried chicken and the like - or eating organic, whole, earth-friendly foods?
Other than that, a vegan who is diet conscious - which every vegan I know is by default of their lifestyle and eating habits - will not be at risk of harming themselves or their baby during pregnancy
Outside of this forum or others like it, of course.
Once a month? A few times a week?
How does the subject usually get brought up? It is usually brought up by you, or by others?
Omnivores, feel free to answer the question in reverse also. As in, how and how often do you REALLY discuss or debate or defend your omnivorism with vegetarians/vegans outside of forums like this?|||Actually I rarely find that people (outside of this forum), really care about what I eat. I had a friend try and argue about my diet once, but I quickly put a stop to it. When they tried to "convince" me that what I was doing was wrong, I told them that it was not something that I cared to discuss. The conversation ended there, and has never repeated since.
Some people do ask about my vegetarianism, but it is mostly because they are curious. Some people ask when they see me eating, others just bring it up. Except for that one time, I have never had anyone try and argue or be rude.
I suppose it is all about the people you spend time with. As an adult, and being the kind of person that prefers to spend time with other mature adults, I don't have arguments with the people I am with(not about vegetarianism or other issues).|||In front of my best friends it can be fairly often. When shopping I can be looking at foods and just say something like "Oh no I can't eat this candy :(" or they would say something like "Do you want a skittle or do they gelatine in them?". So in that way, my vegginess can be bought up about twice a week around my best friends - we never really discuss reasons or debate it or anything though.
Other people do question me about my vegetarianism and it is usually bought up by them. I never try to tell people what to eat so I never bring it up. However, if they are telling me to eat meat again then I usually do defend myself. But mainly I just get questions about what I eat and when I turned veggie and stuff. This can happen about once a month, so not that often.|||Honestly, I usually don't say much to "defend" myself to my omnivorous companions. I find it a lost cause and often just answer their attacks with a shrug, telling them simply that I am the way I am, per preference, just as they are the way they are, per their own preference. I keep it simple now, because I grew very weary very quickly of "screaming at a wall", so to speak!|||I dont. They dont mention it. Except for a certain idiot in my family that think eggs are animals. I dont tell them about how the meat got on their plates. ,(it would be realy inconsiderate.) and they dont tell me about god putting animals on this earth to be eaten. I understand that point. I hear it all the time. But eating anything with a heartbeat is disgusting to me.|||well depends who im with, my ommnivore friends are usually the ones who bring it up and its usually only gets brought up when eating out or talking about foods. and i happily discuss it because im proud of the fact i dont eat animals
i would say a few times a month|||I tried discussing it with my friend once and it ended in disaster. Or perhaps it was a good thing in the end, because the resulting argument made me realise my so-called friend really is an arrogant douchebag. Still, once bitten twice shy, and now I am reluctant to bring the topic up to anyone.|||Not very often. I have a couple friends who used to have a lot to say about me being a vegetarian constantly made fun of me for it but now they couldn't give a damn what I eat. Aside from them I really don't encounter many people who care that I'm a vegetarian.|||I defend it when people knock it. Other than that I just listen to what they have to say. I have studied nutrition extensively enough to be confident in my choice to be vegan.|||By my mom, just putting me down for it: like once every 1-2 weeks
By others, who are actually questioning me: like once every 1-2 months|||once a year at a large bbq party.|||Who cares what other people think if you feel better and like it that is all that counts :)|||Pretty rarely. My mom's boyfriend used to get on my case about it constantly. He's finally shut up about it.
I have felt that my vegetarianism has been questioned aggressively a few times this summer. While some people would say that I brought it up (I mentioned that I was a vegetarian), I wasn't the one who started "debating." The first time was at a barbecue. I said that I was a vegetarian and a few people started asking me about it. They asked me why, I told them (not using any graphic descriptions, just saying, "Mostly ethical reasons, but also environmental") and someone started telling me that I was wrong.
The second time, I was at a bonfire and had brought s'mores. I had both regular and vegan marshmallows. Some random person who wasn't even part of our group came over and started going on and on about how he'd grown up on a farm and they killed their own animals and blah blah blah. He was obviously drunk or on drugs or something, but it still ticked me off that me simply saying, "I also have some vegan marshmallows" had someone come over and go off on me about meat.
I recently got into a little argument with a friend of mine over it. I don't remember how it came up.
In general, though, it doesn't come up with my friends. They know I'm a vegetarian. I know they're not. No point in discussing it, just like there's not much point in discussing religion with someone who is very religious (or who is extremely NOT religious), or politics with someone who's got strong feelings. I usually only have to deal with it from strangers.|||Great question. Outside of this forum I hardly ever talk about veg*nism anymore. Most of my friends know and all my family know I'm vegetarian but I'm hardly ever discussing it, on any level. (Was vegetarian for years, then gave veganism a try for a while, then went vegetarian again). I haven't felt the need to be defensive in a while. Relatives and friends in the past have told me I ''shouldn't be vegetarian'' but I don't hear it so much anymore, and until now hadn't stopped to think about why.
Nowadays I'm more likely to have inquisitive omni friends asking what my fave recipe is, or about why I went veg - the dialogue is a lot more positive. When I was younger, I think maybe certain people (especially family members), worried if vegetarianism would be good for me. But years on they realise it's not a fad, and trying to convert each other would be futile. So in answer to your question, very rarely these days.
Can you feel spirit or good mind if you are vegetarian or Vegan?|||You will lack protein in your diet unless you eat lot of lentils and pulses. You feel good in spiritual frame of mind as you are not harming any animal. You are like the deer and cow which eats the grass and not like a tiger or lion which eats meat in animal kingdom|||To get you clear, Vegans are those who completely eliminate any animal by-products or animal related stuff from their diet. As you know - Curd, Milk, Butter, Ghee, Cheese, etc. are important products obtained from animals. Milk, is essential, for Calcium and Protein which your body needs. Inadequate amounts of these would result in diseased conditions like Osteoporosis.
Iron deficiency also results as 'Vegan foods' have less Iron content in them compared to Vegetarian foodstuffs.
Pregnant woman, lactating mothers, growing young children can get adversely affected due to an inefficient equilibrium in their diet plans.
On the other hand, Vegetarians accept such products obtained from animals and consume them.|||well vegetarians are more in india.
you see all non veg food needs vegetarian ingredients but veg food don't need any non veg ingredients.
veg is less expensive.
non veg on regular basis gives a long term disease.
non veg are not easy to digest.|||everything is bad|||good health, its ethical, better for the environment than buying meat.|||just tht v dnt kill animals 4 ur well being....
hygiene is anothr point though vegies cn be rotten 2 :P
I know a ton of people are going to write things like "meat is freakin sweet, just eat steak!" I'm seriously looking though for intelligent answers. I know for myself the pros, but I wanted more info on the cons that could be encountered, even with a vegan who is particular about being healthy, and eating a good balance of foods. I've heared that too much soy can effect the thyroid gland, for info on this would be great as well. Thanks!|||Its not normal to be vegan. Humans are omnivorous beings. Its ok if you don't eat animal - based products because you don't like them, but its not okay to do that just because you want a "cruelty-free" world. That will NEVER happen. Violence and predation has been around ever since the earth was created. It won't just cease because everyone has suddenly become a vegan. Besides, how is milking a cow to get milk for other dairy products being cruel?
Vegans also need to take vitamins to make up for what their food doesn't contain. This means you are consuming tons of chemicals, instead of the natural nutrients. This is NOT good for your body at all. It's like being hooked up to a machine, being fed artificially. And if you think that's good for your health, try reading a few books on this subject.|||Many years ago loads of people wre cannibals..thank God that's mostly over. Changing your diet to vegan is a great idea, many people will follow your example and start thinking about how their ways are creating so much suffering in the world. Their are NO cons, my best friend (37) is a vegan and well he looks 23. The only inconvenience is that your options are limited if you want to dine out..but keep on asking and insisting that they cater for you. Vegetarians did that and lately you can find a vegetarian option at almost every restaurant.|||A bull is vegetarian is very strong! and I may say it never gets sick.
Hare Krisna devotes are vegetarian and some of then are obese. I see no cons.|||I know many people who have contemplated this very question, and, although some research shows that meat can be unhealthy for certain people, it also shows that meat can be incredibly healthy for certain people. Much depends upon your blood type and the types of food your body requires.
Side note: One of my closest friends was vegan, and after 20 years of vegan lifestyle, and as a last ditch attempt to rid herself of headaches that lasted over a year, had to incorporate meat into her diet once again. Her headaches subsided.
There's got to be more to eating meat than just the obvious.|||vegans do not like to kill to survive.|||while I do think to much soy is no good (like to much of anything is no good), I think you should consider what type of soy you are eating. the soy that is effecting people negatively is GMO soy products and processed products (tofurkey!!). If you look how the Japanese consume soy (whom have eaten it for thousands of years) they eat minimally processed (edamame(sp?), tofu) or fermented soy (miso, shoyu(soy sauce), tempeh) I think when you Look at tried and true diets the results can point you to the answer. I also think that some vegans eat so much prossesed foods and "fake meats" that they don't eat as many veggies, beans and whole grains as healthy vegans were once known to consume. I'm a vegan and I think the con that annoys me is eating over people's houses that just don't get it or eating out with people and/or at a restaurant that just don't get it. Like when you ask if they have anything vegetarian and they offer you fish!!|||i'm actually vegetarian myself, and i know that by just being vegetarian you need to take a few vitamins to be healthy so by being vegan i suppose you're REALLY depriving your body of the vitamins it needs daily.|||CONS You won't be part of the pack.
You do not have to eat soy. I am allergic to it. Of course that means I don't do fake meat as most a soy/wheat based. I eat real God made food.|||There are none.|||my daughter has been drinking soy since she was born and she's completely healthy.|||Alysson - Why shouldn't we eat meat if we don't want to be responsible for the torturing and killing of animals? We may never have a cruelty free world but that doesn't mean we should contribute to it. I don't eat meat because I love animals and don't feel right eating a once living and beutiful creature.
Cons are Anemia and not getting enough calcium. In order to have a well rounded diet you need to eat a variety of things so that you won't become Anemic and keep strong bones. I reccomend Organic Valley Soy Milk (especialy chocolate!) because it's vitamin and calcium fortified. It's hard to get everything (I know from experience) so one needs to eat plenty of protein from different sources... but you really don't need as much as the FDA says, trust me! Dizziness and light headedness also comes with anemia and can be fixed by either eating some protein (non-animal kind) or whole grains. So the cons can be avoided, but they are most common.|||Not too many restaurants serving your needs|||You really will need to watch your vitamins and make sure you're getting enough. I had a friend go vegan who needed to re-incorporate meat products into her diet to return her menstrual cycle to something approaching normal and bring her energy level back up.
Another concern may be social: it's tough to find something to eat that fits your dietary choice at most places you might congregate with friends. What is available may not be very satisfying or it may not meet your body's nutritional needs.|||i think they were a prison rock band from vegas in the early 60's.i'm not sure ,though. you might want to do a little further checking on that.|||there are no cons|||The con of being vegetarian is that if you do not add enough protein to your diet you could start loosing your hair.|||A vegan diet, if very carefully planned, can be as healthy as a good meat eating diet, but no more so. Any benefits come from eating a wide range of fruit and veg and being health conscious as vegans have to be, not not eating meat, and can thus be got without depriving yourself. An uncarefully planned vegan diet can be terribly unhealthy.
60% of vegans have some level of B12 deficiency. This can cause many things from hair loss to mood swings to general unhealthiness.
Also you miss out on meat, which isn't unhealthy, quite the oppsite. It is well established that eating meat improves the quality of nutrition, strengthens the immune system, promotes normal growth and development, is beneficial for day-to-day health, energy and well-being, and helps ensure optimal learning and academic performance.
A long term study found that children who eat more meat are less likely to have deficiencies than those who eat little or no meat. Kids who don鈥檛 eat meat 鈥?and especially if they restrict other foods, as many girls are doing 鈥?are more likely to feel tired, apathetic, unable to concentrate, are sick more often, more frequently depressed, and are the most likely to be malnourished and have stunted growth. Meat and other animal-source foods are the building blocks of healthy growth that have made America鈥檚 and Europe's youngsters among the tallest, strongest and healthiest in the world.
Meat is an important source of quality nutrients, heme iron, protein, zinc and B-complex vitamins. It provides high-quality protein important for kids鈥?healthy growth and development.
The iron in meat (heme iron) is of high quality and well absorbed by the body, unlike nonheme iron from plants which is not well absorbed. More than 90 percent of iron consumed may be wasted when taken without some heme iron from animal sources. Substances found to inhibit nonheme iron absorption include phytates in cereals, nuts and legumes, and polyphenolics in vegetables. Symptoms of iron deficiency include fatigue, headache, irritability and decreased work performance. For young children, it can lead to impairment in general intelligence, language, motor performance and school readiness. Girls especially need iron after puberty due to blood losses, or if pregnant. Yet studies show 75 percent of teenage girls get less iron than recommended.
Meat, poultry and eggs are also good sources of absorbable zinc, a trace mineral vital for strengthening the immune system and normal growth. Deficiencies link to decreased attention, poorer problem solving and short-term memory, weakened immune system, and the inability to fight infection. While nuts and legumes contain zinc, plant fibre contains phytates that bind it into a nonabsorbable compound.
All of these things can be got from supplements, but our body isn't adapted to getting it in such an unnatural form, and so isn't as good for the body as if it were obtained naturally through meat or other animal products. Research consistently shows that real foods in a balanced diet are far superior to trying to make up deficiencies with supplements.
It's actually very healthy and prevents loads of medical problems and you can still get the same amount of protein as someone who eats meat. What were they thinking when they wrote this textbook? Did they not see the other side?|||Medical research has shown that base vitamins, minerals, etc are not possible without supplementation unless meat, fish, and dairy are consumed regularly. Supplementation is tricky as exact ratios are needed for proper absorption and use. In addition, statistical data from the US census indicates that strict vegetarians have a significantly shorter life expectancy then do regular people. They state that because it is the truth, not the self delusions of people trying to defend their habits. People don't eat meat because they have a philosophical problem with killing animals for food, not because it is healthy. The "it's healthy" urban legion they promote can be dangerous.|||Probably because the vast majority of people who go vegetarian will not eat healthy, and therefore will miss nutrients in their diets meat provided. There is a right way and a wrong way to go about eating meat free. You can be very healthy as a vegetarian, but it takes time, effort and the willingness to actually cook (microwaving food does not count as cooking). Since most people do not want to take the time and effort to do it right, it is probably a better idea go discourage it from the majority of the population. Slapping a veggie burger on a bun is not a healthy meal, even if it is meat free. Taking the time to cook a nutritionally balanced meal 3x a day from fresh veggies, grains, nuts and beans is not something most people want to do. So what do they eat instead? A veggie burger because it is fast and easy. Then they feel like crap, are lacking nutrients, and eventually go back to eating meat. Vegetarianism is then pegged as unhealthy because of all the people who they it for the "coolness" factor, but don't put any effort into doing it right.|||I know I might be a little off on this but I know our body needs like 16 different chemicals/compounds to survive and our body only lets say makes like 8 of them naturally so we have to intake the difference from outside sources like bread, meat, vegetables and so on, being a vegetarian or vegan you are actually depriving your self of certain nutrients which is why some veg's have a orange skin color as well as other characteristics.|||Are they old textbook or more recent? If they are old then it could be because they didn't really know much about nutrition. If they are more recent textbook my only explanation is because veg*ns might lack certain nutrients like vitamin B12 and iron because we don't eat meat. Then again it might be all propaganda crap to get people to eat meat but I doubt that.|||A lot of those textbooks are old and from the days where very few people were vegetarian. i was just reading an article about it as well, there was something about a college in Austin saying the same thing.|||I didn't know that American Health textbooks say that. If they do, I would think it's because no vegetable has complete protein on it's own, and people would have to learn enough to combine them properly to get the nutrition they need, and they think the public won't do that.|||I agree that some are very unhealthy. I mostly think that this book was stereotypic of teenage girl vegetarians. Which I agree most eat extremely unhealthy (processed foods, sweets, etc).|||probably because meat has certain proteins and crap we need ! i D k !|||You should read textbooks more recent than 1950's,|||Because it is correct.|||It's not healthy to deprive yourself of certain food groups. If certain things weren't supposed to be eaten, then they wouldn't be in the Food Pyramid|||You're likely to live 7 years longer. You are also 3X more likely to go nuts.
You guys never cease to thoroughly amuse me. I'm bad b/c you don't like the facts.
I read that after you're a vegan for awhile, the gas problems go away. However, I have been vegan for about 10 months. I have really bad gas problems and it's really embarrassing, especially in class. It smells really bad and I need to get rid of it. Is there anything I should eat more or less of? Any kind of help would be great!|||beano mylanta|||I have that problem too at the beginning of my diet. I recommend you try taking soy yogurt or get a Acidophilus supplement. A good intestinal flora helps to eliminate gastrointestinal problems. I have been taking for more than a year now and have certainly stop having gas problems or tummy discomfort.
You might also want to reduce your intake of fibre. Eat small, frequent meals rather than large meals. Avoid carbonated drinks too.
Hope that helps.|||GO raw- it solves the issue immediately.
When vegetables are cooked a lot of them release gasses from their cell walls, the carciferous ones especially ( cauliflour, broccoli, cabbage) and this gas only grows in your intestine.
With raw- the cells are softened down and floppy and you get ALL the nutrients plus vitamin lost during cooking, plus no gas- the gas develops through heat and cooking.|||Maybe cut down on the fiber a little bit. I don't have those problems...
Often times the particular foods you eat make things worse. Experiment with different types of beans and vegetables and fruits till you get to where you feel better.
People who aren't vegan have the same problems. Its not due to being vegan.|||If you're preparing beans, rice or pasta at home, you might rinse them before cooking. Loose starch is like candy to gas producing bacteria. If you're eating a lot of fake meats and cheeses, well, they taste great but that's the price you pay!|||Several of the spices commonly used in Indian cuisine are supposed to be good for cutting down on flatulence. Asafoetida (hing), turmeric, fennel seeds, etc.|||during cooking add a bit of baking soda to boiling water before adding the veggies, especially beans, add tablespoon to soaking water and change at least 3-4 times|||do you eat a lot of beans? :\|||use gas x
Vegans do not believe in using animals for entertainment, or anything else... Humans are animals, does that mean that vegans should not watch porn? If pornography is to be considered entertainment then this seems to present a problem that I have not seen addressed.|||yes unless it was shot using film ( probably a rarity nowadays anyway) which uses gelatin, an animal slaughter by product..
or the sex is with a horse...
any porn that was made without consent of the actors is illegal and therefore not okay for anyone, vegan or otherwise|||Well, in many cases--movies, TV shows, musicians, professional sports, and the like--humans perform willingly and by signing a contract have given their consent. I mean, nobody is forcing hockey players, for example, to go out there and "perform" for the entertainment of others; they willingly went into this game and are compensated and treated well. Same with any actor in mainstream entertainment. One cannot say the same for non-human animals in entertainment, such as dog or horse racing or circuses.
When it comes to pornography, there are other issues. As lo_mcg pointed out, some women are forced or coerced into it by abusive partners. Women are treated horribly in the making of the films as well. Objection to pornography stems from a feminist/human rights angle and not so much an animal rights angle, although humans are, biologically speaking, very much animals. I have also heard that non-human animals are sometimes used in pornographic film, and since they cannot possibly consent, this is problematic.
You might want to check out Carol J. Adams' "The Sexual Politics of Meat" or the more accessibly written (as in less academic) "The Pornography of Meat" to see how meat-eating and exploitation of women are linked.|||Vegans object to, and want to minimise their contribution to, animal suffering and exploitation.
I would hope that most feel the same about human suffering and exploitation.
The porn industry is a hotbed of violence, degradation and humiliation; to say that humans can consent or otherwise is absurd. Do people who say this really think this is a voluntary activity, undertaken by people who enjoy it? Do they think the same about prostitution?
I don't know if anyone here is old enough to remember the porn 'star' Linda Lovelace, whose most notorious film was 'Deep Throat' - probably the most famous porn film ever? A typical example of a porn star seeming to actively enjoy her on screen activities, by all accounts.
In the late 70s Lovelace wrote her autobiograpy, detailing the abuse, violence and rape involved in her life as porn actor, including an occasion where she was eventually persuaded to take part in a scene she had been reluctant to paricipate in - at gunpoint.
It was a powerful and deeply disturbing expose of the porn industry; I doubt anyone will be able to assure me things have changed since then.|||This question is a joke right?
Vegans do consider humans to be 'animals' but to take that in a literal sense is ludicrous. Just like a lot of people believe that breast milk from a woman is somehow not vegan.
Vegans and vegetarians don't believe in humans exploiting other animals. If gorillas wanted to make gorilla porn (lol) that's non of our business, if we as humans wanted to make gorilla porn that would be wrong.
There is nothing wrong with human porn.|||If porn were not vegan, then music, movies, television, ballet etc. would also not be vegan! However, this is not the case.
Vegans avoid as much as possible cruelty and exploitation of animals - in (legal) pornography, humans willingly provide the entertainment so it is not considered exploitation.
So in summary, pornography is vegan.|||If you beat baby humans with bullhooks/ropes/tasers to train them for your porn show, hell yeah I'd have a problem with it. The exact same way I have a problem with that happening to baby elephants to train them for the circus.
As the former has yet to occur, I shall focus my energy on stopping the latter.|||hmm.. don't porn stars consent to being on film? I guess I never thought much of it. Even if it had nothing to do with veganism, porn, like prostitution sounds pretty unethical to me. It would still be under human rights not animal rights though. Although we are all animals it's kinda like how I support fair trade when I can, but most of the time I will buy things that were probably made in a sweat shop...
If you really need to watch porn, but you feel sorry for the porn stars, then stick to HENTAI!
:P|||Firstly I have to say Reply 1 and thr33: you are very smart individuals.
IMO Answer: There are a lot of vegetarian even vegan animals that aaaaall reproduce.Many of these multiple cell organismsms do not reproduce asexually, they reproduce sexually. Thus for reproductive need, animals keep interest in sex. Now instead of mating frantically, the human animal takes advantage of it peek sexual virility mimicking sex through mental/visual stimulation. If we were to devolve, we would become agressive in nature towards sex. And it is true that the Human animal in essence is extremely different in a lot of sense of animalistic behaviour. Mainly because this animal has great ties to socio-economics. Directly causing it to be more evolve in many cases again. But social and economics pressures are directly part of the human animal, which is not in any other animal. They live by nature.
NOW my point is we control and modify soooo many aspects of life which are absolutely not natural. So in definition we are absolutely not animals, only because we are celled organisms are we animals. When we control our means of transportation (ie. horses/cars instead of our natural legs), our methods of food production (massive scale production, instead of hunting gathering like all other animals) we already lose the definition of a natural animal.
NOW if we were animals we would regress, but evolution of our mind has made us smart. If we were to attract, and mate according to a backword animalistic sexual prowess we would be very aggressive in attaining mate even violent, (and with the evolved brain violent to a very smart/sneeky degree). So thus the strains of society have in essence allowed of evolve. Its a tough topic but evolution of man has many major ties with socio-economic topics.
NOW sexuality is very very very normal (in the proper circumstances). You understand that when sexual virility is no longer available. So enjoy it in the true context of sexual intrigue, because that is what it is, and try to evolve along the way. READ between the Lines.
Again this is just an oppinion, and me just talking/typing, but hey sex is a topic I enjoy, and is very normal.
AAAAND being VEGAN is perfectly natural. There are animals that HUNT and eat meat, AND there are animals that are strictly Herbivours, its a natural evolution, or unnatural evolution; who knows, but again that choice allows one to make changes in ones body (or evolve). Look at a horse full vegatarian, look at a rhino or elaphant total vegans, I think. These are majestic animals, nothing but power from what? Plant based nutrients. Look at the predators in nature they hunt naturally, within their means, also very powerful.
But one thing in common in animals, is they all have sex. Its just the way of the world. Now another issue for pro-non-pornography, is that if looking at pornography is wrong, then by deduction one should only have one mate, not multiple partners ever. Sights on/for one; by definition or logic I'm assuming. Now whoever does not concede to the rule in essence is at fault and wrong, or by definition of law, against law. So the only straight answer or right answer to "pornography is wrong" is absolute and pure MONOGAMY, and nothing else. And God bless those lucky Souls. <- If God exists in the realm as we know it.
Hope this kinda makes sense....."eeek" {;-\}
aaand im not a good speller please forgive.|||Humans are only animals in the sense that we are mammals. Everything else about us sets us apart from them. So, yes, pornography is legitimate entertainment for vegans.|||Humans are capable of consent (so long as they're over the age of consent where they live/are performing), so yes, porn involving only consenting human adult performers is vegan-friendly, IMO.|||It depends- some pornography is probably not suitable, particularly films where women are filmed crushing small animals.|||Consent is the key. If a person willingly participates in performing for pornography then no harm no foul
Tangentially related may be "The Sexual Politics of Meat" by Carol J Adams|||lol save that question for the relegious category|||Humans give consent. Animals do not.|||The one is not related to the other.|||No. That's like the whole "breastmilk isn't vegan" bullcrap.|||only if it's guy/guy or girl/girl.|||You are right that vegan may have taken it too far and act their "veggie" too serious/personal as if it is regilious. It is in bible that we christians are not supposed watch porno or do anything committed to adultery sins , it seems that vegans act like christians when they don't even believe in His name. Wow, some vegans may base their veggie on regilious when saying to not watching porno, wearing anything link to animal products, eat it...mind you they are sometimes worse! It is up to you, only if you want resist . You should not take for a man (vegan or flesh) word but yourself. Since you are the one who decide to changing to be veggie since ever. Why turn back to take vegan's advice now? they aint your gods...I was going be vegan but I aint going be taking it far. You know why? I know that some vegans are psycho for saying not wearing anything, involve fun, etc...that why I ain't taking their advice I have my own only one "GOD" already I can worship and listen to.
I got sick really easily at the beginning, when I first went veg. Now that it's been almost a year, I rarely get sick at all, even when my entire fam has colds. I'm not sure if it's becuase I went veg during the winter time, or if it's cause slowly my immune system got stronger?
What are your stories with illnesses?|||ur picture is pretty ':o
I cant really answer this question in relation to being vegan but on a sidenote i read an article that people who don't get common colds at least 3 or like at least a few times during a year are more likely to get cancer. And it was by like a large percentage. Just thought that was interesting : l
And when you don't get sick it could just be a coincidence or your immune system just recognized the cold and got rid of it ASAP. Being sick sucks.
EDit: actually dont think it was a large percent..like mebbe 13 percent more or 30 iunno i remember not caring about it prob cuz percent was small|||Been vegetarian over ten years, vegan for 2-3 since then...I wouldn't say I've had any difference to when I ate meat. Most vegans I know talk about feeling better, if anything. Maybe you just got unlucky :) Hopefully that's it, and you're eating nice and healthy!
Sh!t eh...guess it's cancer for me :P|||High intakes have adverse effects on a susceptible minority so the optimal ... Selenium has many benefits for the immune system and reproduction and may have ... There is reason for concern that vegan levels in winter will not sustain .
A vegan friend lectured to me how her lifestyle has global benefits like solving world hunger.|||No, it does not.
Capitalism, not meat/dairy consumption, is the reason for world hunger.
There are enough resources in the world right now to feed (and house, and clothe) every man, woman and child on the planet, and then some.
But the people who are starving can't have any of it - because they haven't got any money. They can't afford it. Simple and obscene as that.
Over the years various food lakes and mountains of food have been destroyed because they couldn't turn a profit. Destroyed rather than given away, that is.
Everybody deciding to give up meat, dairy and eggs wouldn't change the behaviour of the powerful few responsible for such obscenities.
I'm a vegan, by the way.|||why not build a hydroponic garden that is powered by solar or wind energy. Report Abuse
|||This seems to be the only place on this page that I can add a comment now but I'd like to ask Ttaryn if she would like to be part of the general population who do not have such a compassionate mentality or the minority who care. We all have choices! Report Abuse
|||From a logic standpoint, to feed cows, pigs, chickens, etc. you have to feed them grain/grass. The animal is either fed this food via a bin, or they graze. In both cases, that food for the animals takes up space, space that could be used to grow plants for humans rather than animals. You also have to feed these animals a lot more food, pound for pound, than what you get out of the animal. For example, it takes about 16 pounds of grain to get 1 pound of beef. That is extremely inefficient. If we just fed humans those 16 pounds of grain instead, a lot more people could eat.
In addition to straight food, it takes a lot of energy (oil) and water to raise animals for consumption.
That being said, there are other aspects of world hunger besides the lack of food/famine. Political situations of a country, transportation (not every location is ideal for growing food), lack of funds, etc. However, it would definitely be a step in the right direction.
Hope that helps!|||Nothing will probably solve world hunger. Would veg*nism help? Yes it would.
90% of the soy grown in the world goes to feed livestock. About 70% of the US's corn goes to livestock.
"The USDA and the United Nations state that using an acre of land to raise cattle yields 20 pounds of usable protein. If soybeans were grown instead, that same acre would yield 356 pounds of protein. Animal agriculture also wastes valuable water resources. Population biologists Paul and Anne Ehrlich note that a pound of wheat can be grown with 60 gallons of water, whereas a pound of meat requires 2,500 to 6,000 gallons."
You don't have to go vegan, though. Just cutting back on meat helps.|||The argument for that case is that if the land/resources that was used to raise livestock was instead used for vegetables/crops, there would be enough of those resources to abolish world hunger.
Unfortunately this is not a realistic goal at this point in time. In general, people's mentality does not seem to support that kind of selflessness (even if it just means not eating meat).|||Oh those vegans... Always so quick to lecture the omnivores and always so quick to feed their newborns nutrient deficient diets (and almost kill them) because they think they are so right! With the exception of religious diets; (Hinduism, Judaism etc..) all people (vegans included) will eat ANYTHING if you starve them. Americans are lucky to have the option to not eat meat. I think something like 97% of all Americans have never experienced TRUE hunger. We know squat about starvation. Your vegan friend included. Terra-forming and climate control are our only viable options at this particular juncture. So, no, vegans and vegetarians do not have or know the solution to the world's hunger crisis.|||Assuming that there would be some way to transport said goods, yes, because of the inefficiency of producing animal products:
According to the USDA, growing the crops necessary to feed farmed animals requires nearly half of the United States' water supply and 80 percent of its agricultural land. Additionally, animals raised for food in the U.S. consume 90 percent of the soy crop, 80 percent of the corn crop, and a total of 70 percent of its grain.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/sb9…
When tracking food animal production from the feed trough to consumption, the inefficiencies of meat, milk and egg production range from 4:1 up to 54:1 energy input to protein output ratio. This firstly because the feed first needs to be grown before it is eaten by the cattle, and secondly because warm-blooded vertebrates need to use a lot of calories just to stay warm (unlike plants or insects). http://www.time.com/time/magazine/articl…
Ecology professor David Pimentel has claimed, "If all the grain currently fed to livestock in the United States were consumed directly by people, the number of people who could be fed would be nearly 800 million." http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Aug…|||right now there is enough food for everyone on the whole planet it is just economic and political barriers and greed that prevent everyone from having enough.\however
veganism is considerably more eco-friendly even with these palm-harvest/bio-diesel issues.|||The amount of food and water used to raise livestock each year is enough to supply the world population several times over, if distributed properly.
It may not be the healthiest diet (mostly grains probably) but it would be enough.|||It does because it takes less to feed people veggies than it does to feed them meat. It also helps global warming.|||Has world hunger been solved yet? If not, I don't know how we can make that claim.|||It Absolutely does NOT! But misguided vegans would like you to think it does. The world already has enough food. Meat and produce alike. Some countries don't have enough money to buy it. Other countries don't have the proper climate or soil to grow it. Nor do they have the money. Meat has NOTHING to do with world hunger. Any vegan that says it does is misinformed. If it doesn't glorify the vegan lifestyle it doesn't come out of their mouth.|||Not at all, though some dumbass keeps putting this whole list of vegan propaganda that makes that ridiculous claim on a lot of the traffic light poles in my city.|||Yes. Raising animals for food has utterly decimated Earth. Don't listen to Deer Hunter or Cliff.
...Even if the person eats a lot of avacado, healthy oil, lots of nuts, and LOTS of beans. ...if they eat every meal of the day PLUS a few snacks through out the day... if they take some supplements to substitue for omega acids, calcium, etc. or do u think that it is just unhealthy. if you have any research to back up your response, it would be greatly appreciated. thank you.|||Nope. I think it's called being consistent, instead of being someone who says "i'm vegetarian because I'm against animal cruelty" while eating battery hen eggs and factory farmed dairy (and of course, in turn, supporting the veal industry.)
Dairy and eggs are not vegetables. The original meaning of vegetarian was a strictly vegetation diet. Dairy and eggs were added in later, much to the chagrin of the people who coined the term. Hence, "vegan" was created by taking the first 3 and last 2 letters of "vegetarian" since veganism should be the beginning and the end goals.|||I'm undecided about Veganism. I think that it's good and bad at the same time. According to vegan.org being a Vegan is a positive thing. I agree with some of the health reasons, becuase of many classes I have taken (I am a college student, with a major in Biology). For instance, after the age of around seven or eight (depending on the person), humans naturally lose the enzyme required to digest lactaid (lactose). It is in our culture as human beings to consume milk past that age, so many of us retain lactose. Therefore, being able to digest milk.
I am a vegetarian myself, so I do believe in Animal rights. However, from a biological aspect, it is natural for human (as with any other omnivoire)to consume meat (muscle tissue of other "living" animals). Due to certain adaptations and technological advances (such as the stove), we do not need the use of an Appendix, which is thought to have bacteria that can digest raw meats, without getting the larger organism ill.
To answer your question about the supplements. Walnuts have Omega-3 in them. However, to much of them is bad for you, becuase there's also Omega-6 in it, which is a richer form of Omega-3. It is good for you, but in moderation. Same with everything in life. Calcium is in a lot of other foods to such as Broccili, Kale, Spinach, (believe it or not) Oranges, Tofu, peanuts, peas, blacjk beans, and baked beans.
It isn't as unheathly as you'd think, for many reasons. One, said vegan has accsess to all of the same nutrients that omnivoiruos huimans do. Yes, there's is less fatty acids in one's diet, but then again, this does help with the Obesity problem, assuming you are from a coutry with an obesity problem.
Hope that helps you!|||I see nothing wrong with it if they're taking proper precautions. I mean, it's their choice.|||The research has already been done. Veganism is the healthiest way to live. Check out the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.|||If you had any research to back up your question, I'd bother answering it.
Veganism done right is very healthy. I don't know where you get the idea that I have to eat lots of avocado, oil and nuts at every meal... or where you get the idea that I have to take calcium supplements... you're just misinformed about how veganism works.|||Are you talking about personality or lifestyle?
I am Vegan, I think people have taken it way to far & they are way to up tight about being Vegan, my opinion on other Vegans, I don't like em, they preach and get mad at everyone, make people feel like crap about themselves & that's totally not what it's all about, it's a personal life style choice that they've ruined for a lot of people! I have lived this way for the last 6 years of my life, I am a really healthy person, I have never taken supplements or anything like it! I mean I didn't exactly research this, but I am living proof I guess? I mean there are a lot of really unhealthy Vegan's out there, they don't know how to eat or what they're doing, which in return can really mess your health up.|||Since the American Dietetic Association endorses a vegan as a healthy choice as long as someone gets the proper nutrients; I see no reason to dispute that.
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada鈥?/a>|||I don't think it's gone too far. My friend is a vegetarian and has been a vegetarian for as long as she can remember, and she's one of the leanest, healthiest, most energetic and active person I know. She knows what to eat, how to take care of her body, etc. But I do think it's kind of dangerous when you just jump into veganism (like I did, and kind of regret it). So I think it's healthy, as long as you know what you're doing.|||I'm not a vegetarian at all but it absolutely can be done, and without supplements. Vegans just need to pay attention to their diet and make sure that they're getting everything that they need.
Vegans who eat heavily processed garbage food and then proclaim that they're healthy just because they don't eat any animal products make me sick, but no more so than meat eaters who scarf down an entire pound of bacon and then preach about how protein is good for you.
There are healthy people who are vegans, and meateaters. They may have different views about what eating habits promote optimal health for them but both groups plan out their meals and actually THINK about what we put into our bodies.|||i know i have. the tree huggin hippies have yaked at me so much i gave up eating meat..so now i just shoot animals and leave them for the worms...oooppppssss gotta go i hear a coyote yeiping out back|||calcium:
Calcium, needed for strong bones, is found in dark green leafy vegetables, tofu made with calcium sulfate, calcium-fortified soy milk and orange juice, and many other foods commonly eaten by vegans. Although lower animal protein intake may reduce calcium losses, there is currently not enough evidence to suggest that vegans have lower calcium needs. Vegans should eat foods that are high in calcium and/or use a calcium supplement.
Omega acids:
Nuts, seeds and their oils are good sources of the omega 3 and 6 parent fats and hemp seed also contain some pre-converted GLA. They do not however contain the vital EPA and DHA. Fish with omega 3 fatty oil are able to make these fats from the algae they eat and so provide an excellent source to those who eat omega 3 fish oil. We can of course eat the algae ourselves and chlorella and spirulina provide valuable sources of these converted fats as well as a whole host of other nutrients. If you don鈥檛 eat algae then you need to rely on your body鈥檚 efficiency in converting the fats itself. There are many ways you can support this conversion .
Who needs supplements???|||So you think vegans only eat beans, nuts, and avacado's? Do your research, vegans eat much much more than that. Chances are vegans eat more variety than your average meat eating person who only eats frozen foods, fast foods, and other garbage.|||yeah, veganism is the farthest thing from unhealthy, unless you dont find ways to get the nutrients you need.|||Vegans are the best.|||Vegan is too extreme.|||I think veganism and vegetarianism are unfounded and foolish.
However, neither are UNHEALTHY. It is harder to get all of your nutrients if you are a vegan, but it is still possible. It is very healthy to be eating diets very rich in fruits and vegetables.
Humans have been eating animals since the beginning of time. We are meant to eat meat and should eat meat.|||Yes it is going too far. Man didn't get to the top of the food chain by eating only vegees. our tree swinging cousins went that route. To avoid eating the proper foods to get the nutrients your body needs is not a healthy route to go. However most people eat way too much meat. Fish is something that should not be cut out of the diet. It has too many beneficial nutrients. Seriously limiting the amount of meat is a much healthier way to live.
I'm not for nor against vegetarians or vegans. I have heard plenty of vegetarians preach over and over again the many reasons why vegetarian or veagan is better, and I've heard them out. Now I want to know some fact on how it can be bad, healthwise and economically. Thanks!|||I must take issue with Roxanne.
It is nearly impossible to get the full sequence of essential amino acids derived from protein from an all vegetable diet. We were MEANT and DESIGNED to eat meat.
Also, Americans do NOT "eat too much protein." I've seen those scare stories, and they are false. They may eat too much FAT, which comes along with meat. They definitely eat to much CARB.
None of that would even be a problem, however, if most people weren't sedentary. Yes, people who sit on their butts eat too much protein, fat, and carbs - in other words, they EAT TOO DAMN MUCH, and don't do anything with all that food energy.
I work out regularly (weight training) and to maintain my workout and reach my goals, I had to INCREASE my daily intake of protein, fat, and carbs. And if I didn't eat meat, I wouldn't get the amino acids I need to build and maintain muscle.
Yes, I know there are vegetarian body builders. But they are very rare, and those guys have to take massive amounts of supplements. (I also imagine they take large amounts of other, more dubious substances as well...).
EAT RED MEAT, IT'S GOOD FOR YOU.
Love Jack|||some vegetarians don't get enough protein or other nutrients (that you get from meat, eggs, etc) so you might want to take supplements.|||miss protein|||The biggest risk is to make sure you are getting all of the needed protien and minerals that would otherwise be taken in by meat and dairy products. But I know people who eat a careful veg. diet and it can be done in a healthy way.
So like almost anything if done correctly, there is probably no major health risk.
Economically, I doubt it would have much impact because I don't believe you would ever get the masses to eat veg. For one just like eating sweets that are bad for you there is a taste that the larger majority enjoy. And pleasure is what most people are about one way or another right? So doubtful it could ever have a serious econ impact.|||I turned vege aout 5 years ago and due to lack of proper vitamins and protein gotten before from meat Iended up with eyes that were hyper sensitive to the sun.|||Getting protein is difficult. Vegetable proteins are only half proteins so it takes two veggies to get one protein and that if the are the correct couplet. To get all the enzymes and flovoniods as well as vitamins and micro-nutrients, you have to eat a lot of a wide variety of veggies prepared correctly. It's all a big hassle. There is a reason we became omnivores. It wasn't until we became meat eaters that our brains began to develop.|||Vegan here!
The only real downside is that you need to take a multi-vitamin for B-12 and possibly calcium supplements if you're not eating soy products. There's PLENTY of calcium in broccoli, soy, almounds, and fortified foods, but you can never be too careful.
Responding to a previous post, no protein supplement is necessary. Most Americans get TOO MUCH protein. I run wonderfully on about 40 grams a day (and I workout!) from veggies and whole grains. It's actually kind of sad when even vegetarians get too much protein since too much can reallllly damage your kidneys, especially if you're not getting enough water.
It can also be a problem when people think, "I'm a vegetarian, so that must mean I'll be healthy no matter what I eat" then all they eat is veggie junk food like french fries, crackers, soy burgers, etc.
Isolated soy protein can also be a small problem. If you're incorperating soy to compensate for protein (not really necessary, again), go for fermented products like tofu, temari, and tempeh. But the best protein source, though, is beans. They have a lot of fiber and complex carbs, too!
And it's GOOD for the environment. Many vegans become so to help their Green Goodess, as well as their health and the animals.|||Well, the fact you can't eat all those tasty animals seems to be the main reason in my opinion ;)
My son recently became vegan. How is that different that vegetarian/?|||A vegetarian is somebody who refrains from eating meat. This includes fish, and shell fish. A vegetarian also will not eat an animal by product, in which the animal had to die to provide; such as gelatin. Vegetarianism is a diet.
A vegan is somebody who refrains from consuming meat, milk, cheese, eggs, honey, or any food using these as ingredients. Vegans also do not consume any animal by products. This includes gelatin, casein, whey, rennet, etc. Vegans also refrain from wearing any animal products. This includes fur, leather, wool, suede, etc. Veganism is a lifestyle, and a philosophy.
So what do vegans eat? Most vegans center their diet around fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, beans, lentils, herbs, sprouts, seaweeds, and grains (like rice and pasta).
Hope I helped :)|||Just to put your mind at ease here is a list of vegans that are completely healthy & doing fine, your sons diet isn't dangerous whatsoever
vegans
Avril Lavigne (Singer)
Johnny Marr (smiths/modest mouse guitarist)
Alanis Morissette (singer)
Petra Nemcov谩 (supermodel)
Sinead O Connor (Irish Singer)
Cedric Zavala (Mars Volta singer)
Omar Rodriguez (guitarist Mars Volta)
Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath bassist)
Bill Ward (Drummer black sabbath)
Ozzy Osbourne (Singer Black Sabbath)
Morrisey (Singer The Smiths)
Thom Yorke (Singer Radiohead)
Andre 3000 (Rapper Outkast)
Brian Bell (weezer guitarist)
Georges Laraque (pro ice hockey)
Robert Cheeke (bodybuilder)
Brendan Brazier (triathlete)
Adam Myerson (pro-Cyclist)
Abele (karata champion)
Scott Jurek (Ultramarathon runner, won numerous times)
David Zabriskie (pro Cyclist)
Luke Cummo (MMA)
Mike Mahler (body builder)
Salim Stoudamire (NBA player)
Tony Gonzalez (American Football ''tight end'' considered the greatest of all time)
Carl Lewis (olympic runner, considered olympian of the century)
Joe Namath (American Football, considered top 100 player ever at the sport)
Taryn Terrell (WWE)
Mike Tyson (boxer)
Danzig (MMA aUFC champion)
Matt Wiman (MMA)
Bryan Danielson (wrestler)
Ellen DeGeneres (Comedian/Talk Show host)
George Church (geneticist)
Brian Greene (Theoretical Physicist)
Michael Klaper (physician)
Tim Mcllrath (singer Rise Against)
Anthony Kiedis (RHCP singer)
Tobey Maguire (Actor)
Coleen Patrick Goudreau
Robin Pecknold (Fleet Foxes singer)
Joaquin/River/Summer phoenix (actor/actress)
Brad Pitt (actor)
Prince (Musician)
Andrew Knight (vegan vetinarian brought in alternate versions to dissection in austraillia)
David Pearce (philosopher)
Alicia Silverstone
Grace Slick (Jefferson Airplane)
Thich Nhat Hanh (buddhist philosopher)
Olivia Wilde (Actress)
Weird Al Yankovich (Comedian)
Tony Gonzales (American Football)
Madonna (Singer)
Drew Barrymore
Common (hip hop artist)
Angelina Jolie
Gwyneth Paltrow
Natalie Portman|||Hey,
A vegetarian does not eat meat.
A vegan does not eat meat, eggs, dairy (cheese, milk, butter, cream, yogurt etc) or honey. They also don't eat any foods containing these as ingredients.
In addition vegans will not wear fur or leather or use products tested on animals.
x|||a vegetarian does not eat meat, or a byproduct of slaughter (gelatin, rennet) a vegan does not eat meat, honey, dairy, egg, gelatin, rennet, or anything that may have these products. vegans also do not wear leather/fur/wool/silk|||Rhubarb rock said it best. No honey either. No product that is made by taking the life of or the products of (like eggs and honey) any creature animal or insect.
Being vegan in USA is hard but can be done.|||Vegetarians don't eat meat, but they still eat other animal products like cheese, milk and such.
Vegans, literally do not touch anything that have come from animals. Like no milk, eggs, some cookies.|||Vegetarians dont eat meat. Vegans don't eat anything produced by an animal either. If you are a vegan you do not eat meat milk eggs honey|||Veganism doesn't allow the person to eat anything produced by an animal such as dairy or honey
Friday, February 3, 2012
an alien culture how evil and twisted it is. This planet I went to told me that they once had a culture that ate meat and the meat eaters became extinct. What do you think? Do you think meat eaters will become extinct on planet earth?|||*Count from Sesame Street voice*
One, two, three, FOUR! FOUR posters taking an Ashley troll post seriously. Ahaha!
*shakes head*|||are you 12? Are you a vegan because your mom is a flower child? I can see why you're bitter and weird--you won't know the salty, crunchy pleasure of a fried chicken wing until you're 18, poor thing.|||No. Part of our survival mechanism as humans is the diversity in our diets. If we were limited to what we ate we would be MORE vulnerable to extinction.|||No. I like chicken. Period|||No. meat is good, and it is good for us. besides:
"Bacon tastes good, Pork Chops taste good"|||No. And you visited another planet, interesting............|||Not many :) I know I wouldn't|||Do you mean meat-eating humans, or all omnivores and carnivores? Your alien friends should have made that clear.|||Wow. What planet was that? Hmm - if Aliens say meat is bad, maybe we SHOULD continue to eat it -- maybe they are trying to make us extinct by NOT eating meat so they can have our planet.|||How many vegans would go into positronic overload when they came to the realization of just how much animal by products they were actually consuming in their diets?
Eat meat, wear fur. Recycle dead animals. (It's the "green" thing to do.)|||No way! We have canines well we have tooth Aliens dont.|||I wonder what those aliens taste like. Maybe they could come back, and we would have another food source.|||You need a hobby real bad.|||what? i think you need spankin' dear... wake-up! what planet are you talkin' about|||I think you are out of frickling mind....
Grow up Ash...|||46.
You aren't a vegan.|||I once ate meat, too. Like that alien culture to which you refer, I stopped. Regarding "extinction", there isn't much chance of that here as we have built up quite an industry around meat-eating. Sadly, it is us non-meat eaters who may have fight for survival a al Planet Of The Apes. "Get your hand off of me, you filthy carnivore!"|||I think you might be a bit mental........|||I visited that planet too! They were funny looking creatures, they were black and white and walked on all fours. They spoke in tongues to me, it sounded like MOOOOO! I'm not sure of the dialect. They took me to the head leader and he told me how bad eating meat was and I said "bulls**t" so I cracked him on the head with a sledge hammer and made a burger out of him!|||You need to see a Doctor... ...not a Dieation but a Head Docter.|||www.meat.org
watch this n u will turn vegetarian|||Honey, put on the tinfoil hat.
I used to have a personal cook and I was a vegetarian then. I personally can't cook, so when I had to start fending for myself I needed to eat meat because I couldn't cook veggies properly to make them taste good.
My parents raise livestock so I get hormone and antibiotic-free meat, I guess that's as good as I can do for now until I can afford cooking classes designed for vegetarians (or get another personal chef), LOL!|||No, I highly doubt it. Just like you can plant more plants, they can breed more chickens.
i want to give up meat and animal products... I'm planning on just giving up meat, chicken and fish and becoming a vegetarian and then easing my way into veganism. I've tried this before and my mom gets really angry with me. How can I convince her to let me continue my eating habits because I really feel strongly about giving up animal products.|||You didn't state how old you are and I think your age is an important consideration in becoming a vegetarian against your parents wishes.
If you are not yet in high school, then forget it. Just do as your parents say and make plans for being a vegetarian when you get a bit older... Why? Because your mom is preparing your meals and will be doing double duty (or more) to keep you on a healthy vegetarian diet. In the meantime study about nutrition problems you may have to overcome when you become a vegetarian. How will you get your vitamin b12?
If you are in high school then begin by offering to prepare some vegetarian meals for your family. By doing so you will be demonstrating to your mom that you are responsible, and can make your own vegetarian meals.
If you are in college then you can be a vegetarian without even telling your mom.|||If your mom buys and cooks your food, then you don't have too much say.
If you begin to buy and prepare your own food, she can't say much at all.|||Why is she getting angry at you? For goodness sake, it's not like you're taking up illicit drugs or something. You're trying to do something good for yourself and for the planet. You need to do some research on vegan nutrition ("Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina and "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Vegan Living" are both good) so that you can answer any concerns she may have about your health. Then, you need to tell her why it's important to you; don't preach or act like you're judging her for eating animals. Just explain your position and ask for her support. I really think she needs to get some perspective - kids do a lot worse things than not eating animals!!|||Why is your mom so angry? There are things both she and you can do to make things easier. 1) Get you some veggie burgers and analogues; 2) Make sure all sides are vegetarian; 3) She cooks the meat and you heat up your analogue. The family has their meat and two-veg while you have your analogue and two veg. If you're old enough to start cooking, offer to help your mom so she doesn't have to go through the trouble of making two dinners--you'll help cook the sides and cook your analogue (including tofu), while she cooks the meat.
Is it nutrition? Check out www.vrg.org. Howard Lyman's "No More Bull" is a good nutritional information book, and so is John Robbins' "Diet for a New America."
In short: make it as easy for her as possible to feed you and make sure she knows that you will get all your nutrients on a vegan diet.|||meat milk cheese and eggs are expensive. when you go vegan she'll save money.|||Present her with good info on Vegetarianism , research on the web.
Hope this helps!|||Well, try convincing her of vegetarianism first. Be vegetarian for a few months, then ease into veganism.|||For me it was fairly easy. I had been cooking since the age of 9. By the time I became vegetarian, at 16, I could make anything I needed to eat.
It took many years for my mother to finally realize what I was doing was not killing me and was actually an intelligent decision--even though she admits she'll never be able to do it herself. But the point is, because I took care of myself, all she could do was complain about it. She couldn't stop me.
If you want your mom to be more informed on the health aspects, the absolute best book in my opinion is The China Study.|||Go to www.vegfamily.com, or buy her the book "Raising Vegan CHildren in a Non-Vegan World". it explains the nutritional side of veganism, and has lots of letters from vegan parents who are raising happy, healthy children.
The science on health (and of course the animal ethics argument) is on your side, so you have that going for you.
I don't know how old you are, but I don't know that you have to convince your mom to "let you" do anything. It's your life, and your values. But it'd be great if you could convert her, too!
Don't listen to the ignorant people on here, as they are stereotypically ignorant. I've been vegan since conception and have always been extremely healthy. No one has to make two meals. If you can get your mom to come around, everyone can eat veg meals, and she can eat meat later if she wants. That's what my father always did.|||Well Mom has enough to do with providing food, taking care of the house, and listening to you complaint about "diet" stuff. Leave Mom alone and wait until you move out of the house.
Be considerate of Mom and dont' create a bunch of chaos.|||What an inconsiderate child. After all your mother does and has to do and you are causing trouble about "food". Your mother knows what is good for you. Eat it and fool around with diets when you move out on your own. Why make her angry and upset when she loves you so.
That way I can't be teased by meat eaters of fired from my job.|||Only if you're in prison - they allow everyone to make up their own religion there.|||like scientology?|||religions are cults anyways, so you can for sure start your own cult of veganism.|||no, because you ask stupid questions daily in this catagory.
and give me thumbs down all you want, i'm the one getting 2 points in response to your stupid questions :)|||I bet the church would smell like a broccoli-fart in the bath tub. You could call the religion, Tofuism.|||No. Veganism, is a lifestyle.
A religion implies that you're paying heed to an unseen diety or force, or group of dieties or forces.|||Sister M you are annoying and should find other methods of entertainment.
You could at least try to be funny- not just stupid.|||Whatever floats your boat. :)|||I'm not sure about that Sister. But I am sure of this - mrthing needs to get a life.
Anyone?|||Vegetarianism is a diet.Vegetarians do not consume meat or slaughter by products such as gelatin and rennet.A vegetarian diet consist of fruit, vegetables, grains, legumes, nuts, seeds with or without the use of dairy products and/or eggs.
Veganism is a lifestyle which seeks to diminish the individuals contribution towards animal exploitation.Vegans do not consume meat, slaughter by products as well as animal by products such as eggs, milk and honey.Vegans abstain from the use of leather, wool,fur, silk as well as other animal skins.Additionally, vegans refrain from using anything animal derived and products tested on animals.Vegans avoid all animal derived products to the most practical extents.|||vegetarianism is kind of like a wannabe vegan. vegans don't eat or use any animal products. vegetarians may eat milk and eggs even though milk and eggs comes from animals that were probably treated more horribly and for a more prolonged time than animals used for meat so they're still contributing to animal suffering.
Theoretically, milk and eggs can be harvested in a humane manner but then so can meat. Just because it isn't flesh doesn't mean it's ok!|||Veganism is a diet and lifestyle in which you don't eat / use animals, animal products, etc. unlike Vegetarians who may eat eggs or drink milk. You could say that in a way Vegan is a stricter Vegetarian.
Simple:
Vegetarians - No meat
Veganism - No use / consummation of animal products.
they focus on plant foods
By the way as a side note, fruitarianism is a diet and lifestyle where you don't eat anything that harms anything living which includes plants. You may ask how do they do this? eating only fruits or what falls or would fall naturally from a plant, foods that can be harvested without killing or harming the plant. Some don't even eat grains, seeds, etc.
Interesting stuff.|||Vegans are more annoying than vegetarians. Not only do they make a personal choice about their lifestyle, they try to shove it down the throat (no pun intended) of everyone around them.|||Vegans don't consume or wear any animal products.
Vegetarians can eat eggs, milk, fish and honey and wear animal products.
Any negative?|||Veganism improved my quality of life. I read it could help with an incurable condition I got in the Marine Corps, and while it's not cured by any means, it does help.|||weight loss
more energy
feel better about not hurting animals
no negative effects so far|||more energy, healthier, don't smell like meat sweat when I run like meaties do.|||I get colds much less often and they're much more bearable.|||No more constipation, no more insomnia, clearer skin, more energy, noticeable weight loss, I have never been sick since I've made the change. I feel great. It's the best gift I've done for myself. I also have a greater compassion for the environment and animals.
The negative: It can be tricky or awkward to tackle social situations that surround food.
-Some ppl are very skeptical and negative about vegetarianism. Others are defensive about eating meat.
-My choices are drastically narrowed when I eat at many mainstream and chain restaurants.
- If I'm invited to a barbeque, I may not have much if anything to choose from to eat. I've learn to eat before going to parties.
- The holidays are a big deal. My family has yet to learn how to accept and cope with my lifestyle. I'll bring a couple of vegan items so they can try them and I have something to eat.
For me, ALL THE PROS FAR OUTWEIGH THE CONS =)|||clearer skin
my insomnia is GONE
happier all around more energetic
less sicknes, get over sickness faster
save on grocery bill
lost 30 lbs
knowing im not killing animals and the planet just to eat
i agree that sometimes its a bit sticky when eating out with people, or somehow the subjects gets brought up. but i just go with it. i am happy with my decision. no one else needs to care!
EDIT: "mizz nom" that is complete foolishness to say that any doctor would recommend against eating vegetarian. as long as you are doing it the right way, the HEALTHY way, then you will be great! just because its animal free, doesnt mean its good for you. "missnom" im sure that you were only eating potato chips and soda pop.|||I went vegetarian for several months, but my doctor urged me to go back to eating meat after several fainting spells due to lack of protein from the vegetarian diet. I also noticed my skin was breakin out a lot while on the diet and my eyes were always kind of puffy.|||It's opened my eyes to a whole world of new foods. I'm the only person in my class who can even imagine a meal without meat. It's quite cool.
It's good karma.
There are no vegan foods in my school shop, so I'm screwed if I forget my lunch or eat it all at break or want something extra. Some people give me crap over it.|||I earn more because I can charge them the same amount I charge steak eaters for what is basically a well presented salad, a veggie patty/stew and a desert. Profit margins for a veggie prix fixe dinner is much greater than a "regular" meat dinner
the Negate views towards the legalization of Marijuana and Hemp?
Typically, the ones that oppose one or the other have never tried it and are usually the least knowledgable about it.
What do you think? Are they similar?|||I think I get it. People tend to have preconceived notions of vegans and 'potheads'. They do not take the time to learn about or understand the people involved or the activity. I know many people who have very productive lives who smoke weed on occasion at night after the day is done. They smoke, watch some tv, and go to bed. Remove the weed and they would still be doing the same thing. Instead of drinking, which is a disgusting habit, they smoke. I see no difference except it is much less damaging than alcohol is. As for it being a gateway drug, research shows that alcohol is the true gateway. No drug addict ever started without first drinking. Drinking comes first, then weed, then possibly other things. Me, I smoked weed when I was young but never did anything else even though I had easy access to the harder stuff. I don't like alcohol, I'd much rather see weed legalized and alcohol banned. Having miseducation and preconceived notions is going to keep weed and veganism taboo. My father is one of those. He refuses to see past the idea that veganism is 'adverse to society' and 'too extreme'. He does not see that it is simply a calmer, more simple lifestyle with many benefits. Well, we'll see how his opinion changes as his triglycerides and cholesterol are way higher than they should be.|||Your belief has some bearing but your approach doesn't, ie what you are saying is ''people who are ignorant about something that is considered taboo/frowned upon society, will generally oppose other things that society deems taboo without full understanding''
That is correct in my opinion & usually found in many areas. People who don't practice logic & reasoning thoroughly will be ignorant, but the reasons you provide aren't strong enough yet to provide a trend.
The problem society has with veganism is in short they think it to be unhealthy & a very strict-limiting diet that has flaws in its ethics. Not that the people themselves are bad, they think they just are a bit extremist (not true, but for societies view its what i tend to find others believe)
The problem society has with cannabis/hemp is basically again ignorance but there is plenty of negative examples to use. One must apply logic to these negative examples that ''people who use weed are lazy/stoners/weak in school'' generally the illegal classification of the drug is what draws people too it & especially those who before that were heading down a bad path, the scapegoat or straw man is that cannabis causes people to be lazy/academic idiots.
Plenty more examples can be drawn up like this to counter-argue, i personally think that if alcohol was illegal as it was in the states nearly a century ago. That it'd be the ''gateway'' drug, i potentially see cannabis becoming a stronger staple in the household over the next few decades with global warming & to tackle deforestation for agriculture & producing wood-based products, which cannabis is able to fill.
One can only speculate as such surveys though haven't been done, therefore our hypothesis are just that, thoughts with no fact or evidence to back up|||No. People who oppose decriminalisation of drugs do so because the legalisation of drugs increases the harm they cause due to the increase in usage. People who oppose reducing the amount of meat consumed in our societies either stand to lose money or are unwilling to give up their own lifestyle for the benefit of others. There is no comparison.|||No. I've never smoked marijuana and fully support legalizing it. So your simplistic excuses are wrong.
My problem with veg*ns is not what they eat. That's their right and responsibility. My problem with them is that they lie. They lie about how easy the diet is. They lie about how animals are abused in meat production. They lie about the health benefits.
I think the fact that there are three times as many ex-vegetarians in the US as active vegetarians supports my arguments.|||I have found that most people that smoke weed as it is now are for the most part losers. The seem to be lazy, unproductive people. And yes have have used weed in my youth, just a few times. I really so no reason to make this drug legal for the lazy, unproductive part of society. And really see no correlation between this and people that frown upon vegans.|||The whole "dont knock it til you tried it" argument can be compared with any two taboos you want, yes. I wouldnt discredit the arguments of those who have not tried it though because it may just be a preference and not good ol fashion ignorance for the intelligent to exploit|||i dont think so, not with that anyway
tho its all based on judgments and what any individual peson thinks and thats where the commonality is to me
Once my friend decided to become vegan, she gradually became more difficult to stand. Firstly she joined Peta2 which I won't even go into... Then it was just little things like, in ballet she was playing with someone's shoes and said, "Wait, is this leather? Ew...I touched it!" and made a face like she was going to be sick. When we were watching the movie Happy Feet, there was a part when the lost penguin was stuck out in a storm and needed shelter, and he saw a house with a fire inside and started walking towards it. My friend turned to me and said in a very sad and serious tone, "You know, since I'm a vegan, if that penguin came to my door I would give him shelter, but if a normal person answered the door they would think: 'Food!!'". These are just a few examples.
Why must vegans do this? Do they actually think they're converting people to veganism when they act like snobs? All people are thinking when you act so upperclass is, "Wow, if that's how vegans act, I'm glad I'm not one!|||Because the mass judges, voices those judgements, ask questions they don't really want to hear an answer to, can't realize that a vegan has found something that they believe is right and just to work toward or do their part in... and what do they get from fellow human beings... "relax hippie." It's not nearly as much snob or smug as you think it is... It has more to do with knowing the long drawn out debate they must enter into each and every time they open their mouth and utter the words, "I'm a vegan." Given that there are exceptions to every rule... there are those who could care less and those I admire the most... and there are those who really ARE smug, but were smug before being vegan... and finaly the self glorifying... But what ever the reason... most aren't smug. Everything is a defense and a explaination to people who are just going to point out that they have canines. So the only two options are to use caution with what you say or carry around a chalkboard and stool to have class everytime they meet someone who knows better for them than they do... because a lot of meat eaters think that they know everything... and of course a vegan has never heard the word protein before... let alone looked it up.*sarcasm*|||Sorry, but I think its very narrow minded of you to judge all vegans based on your experience with one person. Most of us are totally laid back about it, don't concern ourselves with the eating habits of others, and don't preach what we practice. To make a statement like "why do vegans do this" is to generalize all of us. Open your mind, and realize that there are many reasons people become veggies. How would you feel if all vegans said that omnivores are tobacco spitting rednecks named Bubba? Its not fair to judge a whole group based on one persons actions-your friend sounds like a dim twit, and perhaps you might want to widen your circle of people you call friends. Her actions would bore me stiff.|||That girl would be driving me crazy.|||its more about knowing and believing that vegans are on the right side of the 'fence' which makes them act this way.|||That sounds really annoying. I've never been smug about my veganism, both because it turns people off, and more importantly because I don't really see it as being anything to be smug about. And I've known vegans who are insufferably smug and ones who have never been, not even when they started out, it just depends on the kind of person they were before becoming vegan. So I think it's a combination of your friend's personality and that she's new to it. It's probably (hopefully!) something she'll grow out of.|||I'm not a vegan- or even a vegetarian (although I totally admire them) and all the veggies I know are really cool people. And what's wrong with PETA? Your friend sounds like she's going through a phase and her vegetarianism probably won't last- I don't think she's doing it for the right reasons. And it sounds like she doesn't know that much about it either.|||I'm sure most vegans aren't like your friend, but she is wrong about non vegans seeing the penguin as food. Some might but I certainly wouldn't and I'd give that penguin shelter as well.|||You're gonna judge a whole group of people from the actions of one person?|||dude, not all vegans are the same. your friend is the exception. oh and not all of us support peta, either.|||Does your friend have low self-esteem? It sounds like she's looking for someone to validate her veganism, and is using it to feel better about herself, and subtly putting others down.
Not all vegans do this, you will find many that don't have to bring it up every moment. You'll also find that there are many with low self-esteem who try to mask it by trying to feel superior with something different about themselves.|||The vegans I know don't act that way-I think your friend has strange issues. Who eats penguins?|||Some vegans do go through stages. It's human nature. Every group does it.
But she's not just a vegan...she sounds like a kid(am I right??).....in which case she WILL grow out of it. :)
Your right - that doesn't work.
And she's right that alot of ppl just see food - only because they're conditioned to by the meat industry.
The answers here from us vegans sure show a wide range of stages!!|||You have a lot of nerve. You have one friend that is obviously young and not quite grown up (you sound very young and immature as well) and you come in here and lump ALL vegans together because of your one friend. That's the same as saying ALL 15 year olds are little snot noses that think they know everything.|||Your question and last paragraph seem pretty smug also.
Perhaps it is a cultural thing among your group of friends.
I have never been called smug. I enjoy the company of others in all situations.
And when I ate meat, I never once looked at a penguin and though "food."
If your friend pushes you away, no great loss.|||First of all, you can't judge an entire group of people based on your experience with one person. Your friend seems somewhat immature and self righteous. I've encountered immature, self righteous meat eaters. Does that make it fair for me to assume that all meat eaters are like this?
I'm not sure if this is the case, but it sounds like your friend is relatively young. If this is true, it's possible that she's making such a big deal out of things to attract attention. Again, this is a situation you see frequently with meat eaters as well.
I'm having trouble seeing why her joining Peta2 constitutes smugness. Simply showing support for an organization is pretty passive.
As for the leather issue, it sounds like she could be excessively vocal about her disgust, and that could be another situation where she's seeking attention. However, I sympathize with her sentiments. Think of it this way: Vegetarians would be uncomfortable around meat because it's dead flesh. Similarly, vegans are disturbed by leather because it's the same thing: dead flesh.
Please base your assumptions on reliable evidence. Veganism is based on an ethical choice. What your friend shows is an undesirable personality trait seen in omnivores and herbivores alike. The two are completely independent of one another.|||Are you an omnivore? Do all omnivores, since you did, stereotype people? I think I will go rant about it.
WAIT a minute, I have better things to do! If you wonder how many omnivores come on the veg & vegan section just to troll around in a smug manner, check out the helpful, accurate, and pertinent answers to common nutritional questions and how many thumbs downs the omnivores give. Why they do this? I don't know, don't really care. Just take note and look around you.|||I don't know why your friend acted so sanctimonious about her diet choice, perhaps it's her personality to look down on others. As for vegans as a whole, I've not met anyone like her and don't act that way myself.
I never talk about what or why I eat or moan to meat eaters around me when they down a hotdog, nor do I bang on about how many animals are suffering at our hands (or mouths). BUT, meat eaters are relentless in waving meat in my face (why I avoid barbecues now), demanding 'WHY?' all the time and going on about how I don't get enough protein. As if they've ever given nutrients a thought in their life.
Most vegans are peaceful, compassionate beings who like to eat as they wish and not be bullied into arguments.|||Vegans are merely vegetarians with their brains knocked out. They are mostly nutters, obnoxious, OCD, odious, and any other O you can think of. Avoid them like the plague. They are just plain silly.|||I think it's terminal (or until they come to their senses and have a nice juicy burger). I don't understand vegetarianism. I heard a great bit once about how vegans and vegetarians all suffer from "Meat" envy anyway, and here's what I mean: Go into any supermarket, look at the "vegetarian" section. You see "veggie burgers" and "imitation bacon" and other simulated meat products. Do you see meat eaters getting "imitation tomatoes" or "simulated carrots"?
I'm with Anthony Bourdain: If it's slower and stupider than me and tastes good, it's on the menu.|||I cant decide if smugness makes some one become vegan or becoming vegan makes some one smug.........kind of like what came first the chicken or the egg|||All of these people who are saying that vegans aren't all smug are out of their minds. Maybe a few of them aren't, but most of them are. Maybe its because they feel really healthy and want to spread their secret. It's the same thing with Christianity. You feel good, and see someone else who doesn't feel as great and you think your way is the only way to be happy and healthy so you tell others about it.
I'm not vegan but I've always wondered this. When people become vegan don't they cut out a lot of things that are important to the human body, like protien and calcium? I can understand why people go vegetarian but veganism seems like it's just taking it too far.|||Vegans are healthier because the average vegan is lighter than the average meat eater in Britain. This is a fact. It is true that veggies are on average lighter. This is an argument based on modern wealth and excess. For almost all of the past, the problem for humans has been getting enough food. Obesity in a significant proportion of the population is a modern problem, brought on us by the ease of access to large amounts of sugary food, plus a lesser amount of exercise, and a retention of old instincts which made our hunting and gathering ancestors crave sweet things, fatty things, and salty things. Early humans evolved these instincts in a world where very sweet things were very rare, salt a vital rare nutrient, and wild prey animals were lean.
Now things are different, and whereas our instincts did not in the past lead to obesity, today they often do. This is not an argument for veganism, however. This is an argument to persuade people to play more football, go dancing once a week, avoid Mars bars, and not to stuff cakes and cheap burgers into their mouths while watching Jerry Springer. Cheap, low quality meat with a high fat content does contribute to obesity in the modern world, but plenty of people manage to stay fit and lean and eat meat. There is nothing unique about meat for making people fat. A sedentary veggie eating cake all day will get fat too. However, vegan are perhaps less likely to stuff cakes into their mouths all day, because the sort of person who goes to the drastic step of forbidding themselves to eat meat is also the sort of person who is unlikely to stuff cakes down their hatch. The type of person who becomes a vegan is clearly the type to be quite obsessed by their diet, and so unlikely to over-do it on the cake front. Indeed, one only need to view the denizens of the local “health” food shop to notice that many vegans are clearly underweight, which brings that average weight figure down quite a bit. Being underweight is not healthy. It is a modern and pernicious misconception that thin is good. Thin is not good. Fat is not good. Just right is just right.
A recent government report said that one in four sixteen year-olds in Britain is over-weight. It is also true, however, that the unfortunate offspring of middle-class parents quite commonly suffer from something which has been dubbed “muesli-belt malnutrition”. These children are fed on low-fat, low-sugar, low-salt diets by their health-faddish parents, and therefore not unnaturally end up with sometimes quite serious malnutrition. Skimmed milk is not for giving to growing kids, who need fat to grow. It is dreary grey water which might possibly suit over-weight adults.
If modern meats which are commonly available in shops are a bit too fatty for modern sedentary life-styles, then this is a reasonable argument for people to exert very effective consumer pressure by simply buying leaner meat. The farmers will quickly get the message, as indeed they already have.|||for whoever that was that said vegans can eat peanut butter and butter: you clearly have not done your research. The FDA allots so many pest (roaches, rats, and bugs) products to be ground into ALL processed foods, including most of the boxed, fortified with artificial nutrient-rich foods many Report Abuse
|||vegans eat. It kills me that vegans are so quick to down meat, but if what you eat comes in a jar with oil at the top (like peanut butter), you are DEFINITELY eating some animal products. Also, any anthropologist will tell you we are meant to eat anything our bodies have enzymes to break down. Report Abuse
|||many people cannot break down wheat products. Unless you are growing your own food, the likelihood of anyone in our modern society being a TRUE vegan is slim to none. Report Abuse
|||No, veganism is not taking it too far. A vegan diet allows you to stop contributing to the suffering of farm animals in slaughterhouses since you no longer consume animal products. And it's better for the enviornment and for your health.
Protein and calcium can easily be replaced. Protein is found in practically everything so it's not hard to find if you cut meat out of your diet. Spinach, beans, tofu, and soybeans are all great sources of protein.
Calcium is easy to find too. I drink calcium-enriched orange juice every morning. I also eat soy yogurt which is high in calcium. There are also lots of vegetables that contain calcium. If you're still concerned about getting enough calcium, you can always take supplements.
Hope that helps. =]|||Being a Vegan can be healthy.I'm a Vegan and I still get to eat stuff packed with protein like peanut butter,bread,veggies,fruit,and alot of other things.If you decide to become a Vegan,I'm really proud of you.Becoming a Vegan not only helps the enviroment,but also decreases the use of animal byproduct.Their are tons of Vegans across the world right now that are changing the world into an animal friendly enviroment.It's your decision to cut out dairy products and meat,but in case your still unsure,check out this link. <:)|||I appreciate, since a lot of people don't know much about veganism, concerns like these can arise. But they're fast becoming urban myths.
There's too much to answer your question in full here, but it's worth visiting some vegan sites: e.g. veganoutreach.org, veganhealth.org and the vegansociety.co.uk, and a little study of these sites will address all of your questions.
If anything, I've found with veganism being a compassionate and holistic way of living that makes so much sense at so many levels, it feel like to me that traditional meat eating today is taking things too far. But i'll leave you to find these kind of conclusions for yourself. Good luck!|||Protein is found in ALL living things.
Plants are living things.
You can easily get as much protein as a very meaty diet but with much less saturated fat, pesticides and zero cholesterol.
Calcium is a mineral/element. It cannot be created or destroyed.
It is found everywhere on the planet. Calcium is easily found in
plant foods.
Here are some examples of fit vegan people:
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/…
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/…|||EVERY non-vegan says the same thing "what about protein and calcium......." UGH! I beg you to read these two articles.....you will understand that your concerns about calcium and protein are REALLY wrong. Please educate yourself.|||We don't lack any nutrients. We just get them from non-animal sources. It is really healthy because we eat all of the healthy stuff and none of the unhealthy stuff. Animal products are not necessary to humans. We are omnivores, not carnivores.
Please watch www.meat.org and then tell me if I am going overboard. That vid changed my life. It has also changed the life of many other animal lovers and people who can feel the pain of others and understand what they go through.|||Many people don't realize how much calcuim and protien are in plant based foods. We tend to get kind of brainwashed by advertising and believe that without milk and beef, we are doomed! I'm not mocking anyone. When I went from vegetarian to vegan I thought I would have to take a bunch of supplements, but then I did some research on what plant based foods had what my body needed and I used www.fitday.com to track my vitamins, minerals, etc to make sure I was getting enough and you know what? It was EASY to get all the protien and calcuim I needed and I felt great! Veganism works if your diet is balanced.|||IF you eat the popular-type vegan diet (starches, starches, and more starches), you will most likely be nutrient deficient.
IF you eat a well-rounded diet (like any omni or herbi should); getting in bunches of greens and some fruit, you will be well-set.|||The American Dietetic Association says a vegan diet can be healthy. I trust their judgment.
You don't have to eat meat to get protein and you don't have to drink milk to get calcium.|||calcium = soymilk (fortified with more calcium and B12 is better)
protein = legumes, tofu, nuts, soymeat
Many vegans don't take supplements
And the conditions for the animals..ugh, it's terrible|||If done properly it is possible to get all the nutrients you need from plants and synthetic supplements. If done wrong people end up malnourished feel and look crappy and go back to vegetarianism or meat eating.|||Your assumptions are uneducated and wrong. But most people are uneducated and wrong about my lifestyle, so I'm used to it.|||How do you think Cows get calcium? They don't drink milk or eat cheese.|||i have no idea im a grapeatarian [ a dyed in then wool wine`o]|||you could live healthy with out meat but with your vegables you would have to eat thinks like cheese milk etc for calicum and protien if people cut back on sweets and meat they would be alot healthery ithink that is the main causes of poor health.|||It's a good idea.
But, you need to find another way to get protien into you body. examples: pills, tofu vedgie burgers, ect.
I am vegetarien and I totally believe that it is totally cruel to use animals as a food source but I am finding it extremely difficult to convert how should I do it?|||What are you having a problem with?
Do you like meat/dairy/eggs; are they hard to give up?
---over time it鈥檚 easier to do without these things. After you've given them up they may actually begin to gross you out (I know that I could never go back to eating any of them).
One thing you can do is start making them seem nasty in your head. Think of an egg as a chicken's period.
I have some nasty dairy info if dairy is something you鈥檙e having a hard time giving up. I'll post it when I get a chance (or you can e-mail me and I'll give you the links). It will make you never want to touch anything dairy again, I bet.
As far as meat, I went "cold tofurkey". Gave it all up at once, I never really liked meat anyways. But if you have a problem giving up meat, then you should start thinking of the meat as what it was---an animal. Think of it as flesh... Think of it as a pet... If the chicken was your pet, would you eat it?
Or is your problem with finding food to eat?
--- There are plenty veg recipe cites. Here is one I like:
http://www.vegcooking.com/
Basically almost anything you ate as a non-vegan, you should be able to find (or make) a vegan version of it. Once you get used to it, it becomes fun.
You can take any recipe and "veganize" it easily.
Beans, fake meat, and mushrooms can be used to replace the meat in a recipe.
Soy milk or rice milk can be used to replace cow's milk.
If you are baking and you want to replace eggs, you can use a 1/4 cup of silken tofu to replace each egg.
Something you'll have to get used to is reading ingredient labels.
Here is a list of animal ingredients and FAQs:
http://www.ivu.org/faq/ingredients.html
I also have a bunch of vegetarian information links on this blog I wrote a while ago, If you鈥檙e interested (I don't feel like coping and pasting)
http://360.yahoo.com/profile-VhTVUj05cqp鈥?/a>
Good luck.|||No problem :]
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|||Convince yourself you hate to kill any animals and stop eating meat.|||dont.|||If you have to, then convert as slowly as you can. You can quit immediately, it could do more damage that what you think. Find alternatives for animal products, and take as many vitamins as humanly possible. Personally, I don't have a problem eating animal products. I just choose to not eat anything I would have as a pet. Be safe and healthy in your choice.
Here are a few sites to give you more information, such as recipes and what others say about it.|||go to peta2(DOT)com
thats what i did and i am happier than when i ate meat ;)
just remember to eat your beans and nuts! lol ( protien )|||Going vegan can be a little tough at first, but it's really not that hard if you're a vegetarian already. I went all-out vegan 3 years ago, just completely stopped eating animal products one day (not the best way to go). Make sure you know what you are doing completely. I got very sick from doing it wrong, but I am still very glad I went vegan.
Anyway, from scratch you probably want to do it gradually. Cut out the red meat, then the white meat, then the fish and poultry, then eggs, then dairy. I've read that's the best way, but I don't know for sure because I didn't do it that way, and I'm the only veg I know around here.
You said you're already a veg though. It might help to know how you are finding it difficult, because there are many difficulties. Is it health worries? Your family worries? Just like eggs and dairy a lot? I would say just cut them out, because I found that most effective for me. Cutting it out slowly might be better for some people, gradually decreasing intake until you don't consume any more animal products.
And there are tons of alternatives out there. Theres many things you can use instead of eggs in baking, though you won't be able to have scrambled eggs or anything (like Egg Beaters are still eggs, just the whites which are just as bad in my opinion).
Take vitamins! Even non-vegs should too. It keeps you healthier. And just have a well-balanced diet like everyone else should.
In the end, though, there really is no "best" way. Find a way that is easiest for you. And just do what you can! Nobody's perfect. I sometimes slip and eat a pastry with milk and egg products, and I wear leather shoes to formal events (my everyday shoes are vegan tho).
Good luck!|||Since you're already vegetarian, it should be easier to just drop dairy and eggs from your diet than if you were an omni. You'll have to read labels a little more scrupulously.
It would help to know what's making it hard so I can help you work around this little roadblock of sorts. There's soy milk, soy ice cream, and soy yogurt, but a good vegan cheese is hard to come by, I must say.|||the best way is to not convert to vegetarianism at all. GO MEAT!
I notice that the Vegans are mostly very young, and are controlling their diet more for fear of weight than anything else.
It makes me think Vegan is just a PC term for bulimia/anorexia.|||you obviously don't know too many vegans
what worms??|||i thought people who are anorexic don't eat? Vegans eat so how could they be anorexic?|||People with anorexia do not eat. If they do eat, it's something extremely low-calorie, and vegetables are low in calories. Bulimia is where you binge and purge. For example: You've been starving yourself so you decide to stop at Mcdonald's and order half the stuff on the menu, then stop and get a dozen donuts, then finish it off with half the menu from Burger King. You eat everything you get, then you throw it up.
A person with either of these mental diseases will not come out and say they have them. They try to cover them up by saying things like, "I'm just a vegan."
Making a conscious decision not to eat meat for your health or humanitarian reasons is very different from the mental disorders bulimia and anorexia.
I'm a vegetarian, and my goal is to not lose weight. I eat many complex carbohydrates to help maintain my weight. I didn't become a vegetarian to lose it.|||No they are not linked. I dont eat animal products and I'm not sick. I graze all day and love it. It is a moral choice and it is my choice. I dont judge those that have different choices I just dont feel comfortable eating anything that was alive. My boyfriend is a trained chef and we cook a ton of vegan stuff. I have never actually known a vegan anorexic. Most vegans and vegetarians I know are super healthy and love food.|||okay first off, bulimia is THROWING UP after you eat. vegans/vegetarians do not do that in general. and being a vegetarian does not necessarily mean that your going to be anorexic. most have very healthy diets and stay slim for GOOD reasons. please use your sources and come back next time.|||Veganism is not an eating disorder so there is no proper comparison.
Veganism is a concious choice to not eat meat but generally in educated adults, it's a choice to also have proper nutrition.
I have cooked for a number of Indians over the years who have been vegans all of their lives and so were their parents, etc. They have a wonderfully varied diet with great herbs and spices.
Unfortunately, there are some people who have misunderstood Veganism, and adopted it for the wrong reasons. They don't usually stay with it as a life choice, tho.|||Hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im a vegan and its a healthy life style. But yes, it does look like we starve our selves because we only eat fiber, protien, and no fat from fast-food, or meat. Veganism is not close to anorexia unless u make it like that. Like Im 16 5'4 and 99.02 lb because I don't eat fat. It may look like we are anorexic, but we're not unless we chose to be. (which I don't)
well, hope this answers ur question|||It's not veganism's fault if the teeny-boppers hijack it for misguided reasons. Of course there are poorly planned unhealthy vegan diets, but there are also good vegan diets.
In my first year of university, I saw both extremes (girls eating just lettuce for lunch and dinner and girls and guys eating fried chicken for lunch and pork ribs for dinner all week). I would love to beat them all up. Oh wait, someone is going to thumb me down.|||The two are not medically related. Either you're not observing properly or you're jumping to conclusions. How many vegans do you know anyway?|||There is a connection, but it exists because some people with eating disorders "convert to veganism" as a way of trying to hide their anorexia (it gives them a social excuse to turn down certain foods.) This does not mean veganism is an eating disorder or that it causes eating disorders. It just means that some people with eating disorders are subscribing to your logic that it's a more PC way of having people view their eating patterns.
Most vegans have chosen it for reasons like their health, animal rights or environmental reasons (and many for a combination of those.) I am half-heartedly hoping I lose a little weight by going vegan (I was vegetarian for 20 years and have been vegan for a little over a month) but it's not remotely my purpose for it. And so far it's not working!|||vegan - Don't eat meat and animal products, Keeps it down
Anorexia/Bulimia - Does not eat anything, trows it up
See the difference|||No, but some people with eating disorders will say "I'm vegetarian" in an attempt to cover it up.
My wife is a Dietitian in a mental hospital and she says this happens sometimes.
I only know one vegan personally, and he is an 89 year old Hindu guru or "holy man." My wife is Hindu and has several vegetarian relatives, some of whom are elderly. It's a tradition in India that has been around for thousands of years. We suspect that our sister in law may have had bulimia in the past (but she's not vegetarian or vegan).|||Not related at all.
sammy!!---you aren't a little birdie any more?
sandstorm---you KNOW there won't be any thumbs down left when they're done with me!|||A friend of mine battled with anorexia her whole life and died in her late teens because of it. The little food she did eat included chicken and fish... definitely not a vegan diet. I can tell you Veganism and anorexia are 2 completely different things. Anorexia and bulimia for starters are illnesses... veganism is a conscious lifestyle choice. Anorexics don't eat, vegans don't eat animal products but can and do still eat as much as they want. I for one eat 3 meals a day with snacks in between... just last night in fact I ate nearly a whole packet of biscuits after dinner which I didn't and never would throw up... something I'm sure an anorexic or bulimic person would not find themselves doing. I can't believe how ignorant and naive this question is. Who are these vegans you are supposedly noticing to be young and trying to lose weight? The only ones I come across are vegans out of compassion and not in an attempt to have a slimmer figure.|||Your comparison is wrong. There have been vegans in India for centuries, they also have pacifists.
Vegans and pacifists suffer from some sort of mental illness but it is not bulimia or anorexia.|||Your questions makes absolutely no sense.
If someone eats a "vegan" diet just because they want to lose weight, THEY ARE NOT VEGAN IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
If someone does it for reasons other than animal rights, that person is not vegan and it is highly doubtful that they actually pay attention to less obvious animal ingredients in their food.
it seems like every conversation i have with my brother always come back to my being a vegan. He try to tell me that everything is alive. saying that if i dont eat other living beings then why am I eating plants, cause they alive too. But then im like" its the same, you're comparing flesh&bone to leaves&stems ", but thats as far as i get. Any ideas? You know something that'll make sense and put'im in his place.|||Anyone that has become a vegan has at some time or another just felt like an outsider in the places that we’re supposed to be the most comfortable such as, our homes, our careers, and with our friends and families. However, what isn't happening with your brother, what should be happening nonetheless is mutual respect. It's normal to feel frustrated when the people closest to you don't share your views or enthusiasm when you make a change in your life, that your are excited about. If your brother isn't supporting and respecting your personal choices, you may want to avoid discussing the topic with him altogether.
Shootsamshoot is correct about plants not feeling pain or having a brain as to the difference of plants and animals.
There are many reasons that people are lead to become a vegan. Some people begin as a result of their love for animals. Actively boycotting products and industries that exploit animals is a powerful statement. Other people become vegan because they are concerned about the quality of life on the planet, which cannot be sustained given the prevailing meat centered diet. Some people begin to make diet changes for their own health and then discover the ethical and environmental reasons to go further.
Most vegans are not any different than your average person, the simple and compassionate act of denying animal products for ethical reasons can literally make you into the outsider at social and personal events. Change frightens many people. Try and share the reason you became a vegan with your brother, without being defensive or judgmental. I have found that many people attack the unknown, in an attempt to feeling “normal”. Others, I believe understand your reasoning and see your changes as an issue of will power, when in fact it is because of your caring nature and willingness to change your lifestyle to improve the environment and lives of animals.
My advise is to let people know you are the same person. You are growing and with growth comes to new choices, interests and experiences. Suggest to your brother that you both live and let live. The only other thing you can do while maintaining a relationship with him is to stop letting him goat you into arguments and when he brings up your being vegan, stop responding to him. You shouldn’t have to prove or convince him of anything. You are empowering him every time you argue with him. I am always happy with the knowledge of knowing I am doing the right thing.|||I read somewhere that a plant lacks a central nervous system, and a brain. Brains are the link to feeling pain. So, they do not feel pain. Throw that in his face maybe? I can try and find where I read it, and edit this later, but I figured I'd give you a quick fix from now.
Good luck, I get the same song and dance from MY brother :)
EDIT: I found it! Here you go. Though the author states that he "believes" this, I took a course in psychology, and I know that the central nervous system sends messages to the brain (which the plant LACKS! both of.) it does not feel ANY pain, or any sensations.
Oh, and Meg. I know that you meant that sincerely, but... PLEASE do realize that all vegans are unique, and have become a vegan for other reasons than that :D|||First of all, ask him to respect your decision.
Tell him that you are not selfish, that your goal is to alleviate animal suffering and by going vegetarian or vegan, you have more of a positive impact on the environment.
Is not a question of being hypocritical, it is a question of caring.
Has he seen a lettuce caring for its little baby lettuces?|||i hate when all the idiots at my school throw this question at me.
it bugs me to death. btu yeah, like that one guy said they dont have brains, meaning they dont feel. animals get to feel pain when theyre being chopped up; they actually cry out. i dont hear my veggies cry when i chop them up for all my yummy vegetarian meals :]|||I find people attack my choice to be veggie when they feel threatened, and a little guilty, so they have to put you down to make themselves feel better about their bad choices.
And Meg, how is eating plants wrong? I'm not understanding how you came to that conclusion....hmmm.|||tell him this...
You kill less plants by eating them directly,by cycling food through livestock you lose 96% percent of the calories that you put into it.Animals raised for foods in the U.S. use of half of all the water used in the U.S. You can feed 100 kids rice,or only four of them meat.The least efficient plant food is tens times efficient as the most efficient animal food.The rate of repetitive stress injury for slaughterhouse employees is 35 times higher than it is for those with other manufacturing jobs,Human Rights Watch says "Meatpacking is the most dangerous job in America".For every acre of land plowed down for urban development,seven acres are cut down to grow food for animals or for grazing land for animals.If everyone in the U.S. reduced their meat consumption by 10%,it would free up enough land to grow food for 100 million people(there are about 20 million starving).Livestock in the US produce 20 times the excrement of the entire US population.If everyone in the U.S. went vegan,we could cut our imports on oil by 60%.Methane is one of the four greenhouse gasses that contributes to the environmental trend known as global warming. The 1.3 billion cattle in the world produce one fifth of all the methane emitted into the atmosphere.The direct and hidden costs of soil erosion and runoff in the US, mostly attributable to cattle and feed crop production, is estimated at $44 billion a year.Feeding the average meat-eating American requires 3-1/4 acres of land per year. Feeding a person who eats no food derived from animals requires only 1/6 acre per year. A scientist, reporting in the industry publication Confinement, calculated in 1976 that the planet's entire petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years if the whole world were to take on the diet and technological methods of farming used in the U.S. So not only are killing more plants than I am,you are also using up tons of water,you are contributing to the killing of animals(26 billion,just in the US),you are contributing to deforestation,you are contributing to world hunger,you are contributing to soil erosion,you are contributing to global warming,you are contributing to exploitation of workers,you are contributing to enviromental pollution,and you are contributing to the war for oil.All of that for what,your own tasebuds?|||Well, humans are designed in such a way that we could easily survive on fruits alone. That said, fruits are see pods, designed to be eaten as this is how the seeds are spread -- thus eating fruit is not killing something that is meant to live. Going further, leaves are part of a plant, but eating some leaves from a plant will not kill it, since it will grow more leaves. Same goes for many roots, as the roots will grow and grow.
So, if cows could easily and quickly grow their legs back after being pulled off, would a vegan eat meat -- if say, cow legs were designed painlessly to detach when pulled as some insect legs are as an escape feature and will grow back.
Pose this argument to him and see what he says.|||I agree with your brother and here is my why, and maybe you can shed some light on it- vegans won't eat any animal byproducts and I was told by one that they won't drink milk because it was meant for a baby cow, they won't eat unfertilized eggs because they are suppose to be baby chickens, etch... but animals eat plants so isn't eating plants wrong? I don't mean this as an insult I really am wondering about it.
Why do you and your brother argue about your eating habits anyway...what does it really matter
What reasons would they be?
I am not talking about the health aspect of such nutritional approaches, but the ethical aspect of it.
Is it right to kill animals for human's benefit? Because we have so many other alternatives to meat.|||Vegan living is a good living. One who believe in it that person is not cursed by animals. Cows are slaughtered, it is inhumane. I hate such persons who eat meat of innocent animals. They are sincere to human beings. I love feeding to animals and enjoy their love and sincerity. Food grow our emotions. Bad emotions grow when We eat bad food. Killing of animals is violent action and eating of meat grows violation in our mind. It is negative feelings.|||I think that's getting to the meat of the matter.|||Different strokes for different folks... I personally LOVE the taste of a yummy piece of rare beef... But I could never personally kill an animal (unless I was stranded on a desolate island, and I had to hunt to keep myself alive, thank u Jesus for the meat department) but people who choose to live the vegan life style I have a lot of respect for. It takes a serious amount of will power, and strength not to compromise ur beliefs for comfort and convienence. Especially since McDonalds is soooooo yummy.|||There is a natural food chain.
If you don't eat meat/animal products you've got to take a supplement to get your B12 vitamin.
There is a vegan couple in France just jailed for not giving their baby natural B12. The baby died.
So, I would say "naturally" we are supposed to eat meat.
Now, I think Western societies eat too much eat. But thats just a bad diet choice.
When vegans come over all "moral" over their stance, I find that hard to take because, as I have mentioned above, I think we are natural meat eaters.|||Other animals kill each other for their benefit too. We are considered by science to be animals and we are biologically built to eat meat.
Is it right to discriminate against plants just because they're not sentient? They're still living, "breathing" things.|||I'm personally into vegan-ism, but I wasn't a born one.
If only consuming animals was killing animals, I wouldn't mind so much about it... but these days, to provide animal products to consumers, humans are exploiting animals. That, I feel, is something quite unjustifiable.
Animal husbandry wasn't too cruel once upon a time. Killing animals isn't the problem here. It's how we kill them, and why are they killed. Most of the time, animals aren't killed to serve for the purpose of being part of the human diet, they're killed to satiate the lust of humans for meat.
There's distinction between the two. One's an average amount of meat, while the other, is excessive killing of animals to get certain part of the animal, for a certain purpose. And then, there's the way the animals are bred, choked with hormones, living without seeing daylight... isn't it just pitiful? Certain animals are so mutated that they can't even function properly. For instance, turkeys are injected with hormones in order for them to develop larger breasts, which leads to a condition where their own legs can't support the massive weight of their body. I find tis' crudeness unbearable.
I understand that there is a hunger crisis... but in my opinion, there can be more humane ways for animal husbandry.|||I think that a humane death is ethical under certain circumstances, but the inhumane way which cows are slaughtered is completely unethical.
For example, I would allow a cow to be killed under two circumstances:
1. At least half its life is over, or it has experienced the best part of its life.
2. It is killed in a humane and painless way.
The question you are asking about the importance of life-forms is a deep one. As selfish as this sounds, I believe that some animals are clearly more important than others. For example, I would have no regrets about stepping on a mosquito and killing it, but I would not want to kill a large, endangered or intelligent animal, since I value those the most.
Cows are large, but they are not endangered or intelligent, which is why I support their killings under certain circumstances (as specified above).|||well i only eat fish / Japanese diet etc , found a good quote -
To expect the world to treat you fairly because you're a good person,
is like expecting a bull not to charge you because you're a vegetarian...|||Well this is one of those touchy issues. My opinion is that an animal life is not at all = to a human life. So I will continue to eat meat. If it were not for the animals human kind would not exist today. Our ancestors did not have alternatives to meat. This is just the food chain. Plus bacon just tastes so darn good.
*edit (endangered animals shouldn't be killed either, nor intelligent animals such as whales) wouldn't eat my cat or dog either.|||Most of us buy under the influence of humane myth but there is nothing humane in meat and dairy industries. Free range and organic is to deceive people. And to make it worse there is no labelling of non stun or Halal meat. Taking other life just to appease your taste buds has nothing moral innit. Im practicing and preaching veganism from a long time but what i've found is people go nuts at vegans and claim stupid things.
It's true we have alternatives and vegan living is far more healthier but we've to leave it on individual choice.
Edit - As you can see some crazy qs that they ask are plants feel pain.....but they don't have nociceptors for that. They aren't evolved to do that. And all going vegan poses no threat to these domesticated species as they are only excessively reared for meat production. Moreover large amount of resources are wasted and land areas for meat production. 3 times more than vegetation requires. So if just Americans cut off their meat we can fees billions of people. But as i said all depends on individual choice.So if just Americans cut off their meat we can fees billions of people. But as i said all depends on individual choice.|||While most humans have a more apparent emotional attachment to their own lives and those of their near and dear ones, there is no doubting that all animals equally value their own lives and that of those of their offspring, and others near and dear to them. It's just not so apparent to us, who live in our comfort zones, and aren't as easily accepting of the harsh realities of life.
It is for this reason that we should be more compassionate towards our animal brothers and sisters, particularly the mammals who also feed their young with breast-milk, as we do. Intelligence is a moot point. We simply don't understand the ways of higher animals with more peaceful outlooks than ourselves. I get really frustrated when I see someone mention cows as unintelligent, yet defend their cat or dog which they know more intimately. Cows are beautifully intelligent creatures, and can just as easily respond to human interaction and punishment/reward training as any other creature. They can learn to respond to an individual name, learn complicated routines and tasks, very much develop strong bonds with their herds and young ones, have intricate social positions and so on and so on. All animals do, from birds, to fishes, to insects and every living creature who passes on their knowledge to their young, both through DNA inherited and behaviour learned.
Physically, the human is not designed to eat animal flesh. We are forced to rapidly decompose it with heat to kill harmful bacteria and to make it digestible, or suffer the risk of severe food poisoning. Heart disease as a result of animal-derived fats is the greatest killer of modern mankind, and the associated diseases such as bowel-cancer is directly attributed to red-meat consumption, no different from how lung cancer is directly attributed to smoking of tobacco.
Our digestive system is long and relatively low in acids compared to meat-eating animals who have digested tracts some one-fifth the length of ours in comparison to body size, with stomach acidic levels some ten times stronger. We are more perfectly designed to be gardeners and fruit pickers than we are hunters and carnivores, though no doubt our success in evolution is our ability to adapt to situations where climate forces us to seek our nutrition through a variety of means especially during lean times. We no longer suffer these limitations.
Meat production uses ten times the land and ten times the water that vegation production uses, and super-foods such as certain algaes can reduce the land and water usage rate dramatically more, producing far more nutrition than previously imaginable. Even hemp as a super-food is far under-rated, producing the most nutritious oil for human consumption than any other known, with a myriad of other uses which would replace virtually every other resource known to man (eg, building material, clothing, fuel, paint, plastic, paper, food, etc).
The thing is, plants benefit from us consuming them (eg, eat a tomato, pass the seeds through, compost your remains, grown numerous tomato plants), yet animals must die unnecessarily for us to consume them, with no benefit to us or to them. Complex B-vitamins can easily be obtained from many other sources, including algaes and bee products such as royal jelly.
Veganism is a little extreme in my view, but is an ideal every human should be striving towards. You simply cannot advance spiritually while your body is being used conspiratorially as a disposal system for murdered animals. When you have no choice, survival takes precedence. When you have a choice, compassion must take precedence, or you cannot be a compassionate person. Ask yourself, would it be okay to kill your neighbours and eat them if you had no choice? Well, if you do have a choice, how is killing our fellow earthlings who do not need to die, in any way, a good thing?|||Animals kill each other as often as humans do. The ways that humans go out and kill animals is offensive, but if you hunt and kill the animal yourself it is only natural.|||I believe if we didn't eat meat we could not feed everyone. We already cant feed everyone and the problem would grow worse. Chickens are valuable comodities in 3rd World countries. But yes eating Vegetables only is healthier. We definately should be eating less meat,whatever your views are.
Yeah, articles that talk about the benefits of veganism for the environment. Preferably something somewhat long but not too long.
I'd like to read more about it. I'm not a vegan for environmental reasons but I'd still like to learn more about it.
Thanks.|||Hey there, great question, gotta say well done on some of the answers I've seen from you in this forum!!! As for enviro reasons, they are equally important to me as animal rights, well maybe a very close second. there are a few good reads you can get but here's a couple of links you could try! It is funny how many 'greenies' i know that are meat eaters...sigh...anyway hope this is helpful, they have source articles linked in as well. cheers.|||I don't have specific articles about veganism, but here are some links on vegetarianism or less cattle being better for the environment or the global community:
From the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/weekin鈥?/a>
BBC News: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur鈥?/a>
Cornell University: http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Aug鈥?/a>
Leather and the deforestization of the rainforest: http://www.thedailygreen.com/environment鈥?/a>
Depletion of resources affecting poorer countries: http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2004/english/ch鈥?/a>|||http://www.veganpeace.org/veganism/envir鈥?/a>|||order the PETA vegetarian starter kit.|||This is a video, not an article, but it changed me from vegetarian to vegan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6_hjA4cd鈥?/a>|||A longer one is Livestock's Long Shadow. It's based on the findings of a UN study.
Ive gone a couple of times to the doctor and everytime he puts down veganism! and he says hes very worried about veganism,and i should be eating meat too. Ive seen a dietician before when i was only a vegetarian and he said theres nothing wrong with meat,eggs,dairy etc. Whys this?? I thought that veganism was so much healthier!!|||Many doctors are not necessarily very knowledgeable when it comes to nutrition. Most medical schools do not even require nutrition as part of their curriculum and there has been a study that most doctors' nutritional advice is "as good as that of your neighbors", since they just give their own opinions to their patients when it comes to nutrition. My sister is in medical school that is one of the very few schools that actually incorporate nutrition into their curriculum - however, she says it's not comprehensive at all. Many of these nutrition classes offered in select medical schools are often funded by the pharmaceutical and dairy industries.
Please read 'The China Study' by Dr. T. Colin Campbell. This book will have all of your answers plus more.
http://vegtaste.com/pages/posting.php?ar鈥?/a> (article about The China Study)
For example, some doctors who actually did a lot of research on nutrition, gave good nutritional advice, and cured his patients through nutrition alone actually got fired because the hospitals were afraid they were going to lose business. It's hard to believe but true. Not all doctors are enlightened in nutrition and some are even dishonest. I've been to many doctors who were unable to cure my chronic illnesses with lots of pills and even recommended surgeries but I eventually cured myself through nutrition and lifestyle changes alone, by adopting a plant-based diet. I wouldn't have needed all those doctor visits if I had known earlier that simplest changes could make the most difference in my life!
For more nutritional advice, go to a knowledgeable dietitian and/or read 'Becoming Vegan'.|||Veganism isn't necessarily "so much healthier"; you can be healthy as a meat eater, a vegetarian, or a vegan. You just need to make sure your diet is well-planned and that you're getting all the vitamins/nutrients you need. The thing about doctors is, they generally know very little about nutrition. Usually they have to take maybe one class on nutrition in school... you or I could know more than most doctors do about nutrition if we just did a little research. So your doctor said you should eat meat probably for the same reasons anybody says you should eat meat (being uneducated about nutrition, believing meat industry propaganda, seeing meat on the "food pyramid" and thinking that must mean you need meat to be healthy, etc.) Your dietician said there's nothing wrong with meat/dairy because there isn't anything inherently wrong with meat/dairy (from a health standpoint). But there also isn't anything wrong with abstaining from meat/dairy.|||Doctors are required very little nutritional training in med school, that's why there are dieticians in hospitals, because the doctors do not know. Plus, although vegetarianism has always been around, it is starting to get more press now, so the chances are your doctor just never got to learn about it and was just pumped full of information about the food pyramind that has meat and dairy as a part of it. If you have any sort of deficiency, like iron, then your doctor is probably giving you the "simple solution" to eat meat again, but really, you can get those nutrients on a vegetarian diet too. But if you have no deficiencies in anything, then there is no basis for him putting down veganism besides the fact that he eats meat and doesn't like vegans.|||You need to find a doctor who is more educated in vegetarian/vegan diets. Unfortunately a general practitioner cannot possibly know everything; that's why there are specialists. I would look for a dietitian/nutritionist who is knowledgeable in vegetarian and vegan diets. When I was looking for a new doctor, I was worried about them giving me a hard time for being vegan (I've heard horror stories about that and I do live in a small town), but they were great about it.
As someone mentioned above, you should really read "The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell so you can educate yourself.|||Your doctor is not a nutritionist it sounds like and does not know what he is talking about. Most doctors and even nutritionists don't really study nutrition really well and understand a veg. diet or see some idiots who eat pizza and junk food all the time and not the healthy normal people that are vegetarians and vegans and who avoid that crap. I would just make sure you are healthy and eating right and if not then you should get on that and if your doctor doesn't like your diet, he doesn't have to switch too it. If you are healthy then there are no worries, your doctor just isn't knowledgeable in this situation. My dad is a doctor and he is starting to eat a bit healthier but still eats a lot of junk "foods" that can easily be replaced by something slightly healthier but he refuses to do it.|||veganism is healthier in TODAYS world, because meats today contain alot of bad things, chemicals, hormones, preservatives, and other bad things you wouldnt want, doctors put veganism down because people need to get the brains before they get into things like that, going into veganism right away with out knowing anything about it other then "its healthy" will most likely get even more sick then they would then just eating meat because you can become nutritionally deprived and become anemic and so on
the truth is, if i could grow my own cows, fish, chickens and and pigs, i MIGHT eat them because humans are meant to be omnivores, but i also feel that i cant play god and take away a life just because im hungry, there are other alternatives, eating meat or not, both have pro's and cons|||Obviously, what you were deceptively made to believe, that being a vegan is healthier, is a crock of sh**.. It's not really "pros and cons". its propaganda vs the truth. Any diet, if not given to excess and done correctly, is /can be healthy and to single out veganism and even implying that it id somehow "superior" is just plain old fashion lying, unadulterated ignorance or both
You can be a healthy vegan but you have to work at it just like everyone should.|||Its an uneducated world friend.
Did you know that too much milk actually GIVES you brittle bones???
Doctors and nutritionists like you to have an omnivorous diet because it is easy, they can say eat fish or lean meat with potato's and steamed veg and a glass of milk et voile, you are healthy.
Its up to you as a veggie/ vegan to do your own nutritional homework and sort yourself out a balanced diet.
Trouble is alot of young people go vegan because of the bunnies then eat nothing by fries and soya milk because they "hate" vegetables and their mum won;t cook them anything.
Obviously this is not a balanced diet :P
A strict veggie needs to work out how much protein, carbs, vits and minerals and fats they need then find foods to make up that diet.
A good veggie diet will always be healthier than a MacDonald's or fired chicken for dinner most days :)|||That's because this stupid industry gets money of of non vegan stuff many times so they tell them to suggest certain pills (w/ meat **** or some animal stuff) or tell dietician to recommend animal products so they can make more money when in fact you're the healthy one and their not. They might even be jealous because they think selfishly like when people say "I'd love to be vegan but I'm not as strong as you."
But I've seen like 2 dieticians in Peru
& they were happy w/ me and recommended meals for me,
but that was when I was a pescatarian.
But I'm sure if I went back and told them I was now a vegan,
they'd be even happier.|||When it comes to something leike this, the dietician would know a lot more then the doctor.
Secondly, some doctors are a bit biast and just because they dont agree with your diet doesnt mean they should put their personal opinion in.
If your dietician says your fine then continue being a veg :)
also a lot of studies have shown that the veg diet is a lot more healthier and can increase life and decrease cancer and heart disease|||Most 'nutrition' studies are funded by the meat and livestock, dairy and egg industries.
Unfortunately most GPs and nutritionists don't think about the motivation behind these biased 'findings' and refer to them as scientific evidence.
I know my answer is going to be quite controversial and many won't believe me but that's your choice. I'm just telling you what I've been told by several experts in the medical field.
The most biggest and most comprehensive study into nutrition was done over many decades and is known as 'the China Study'... and guess what the findings were? Animal products are the leading cause of cancer, heart disease, diabetes etc.
Buy or borrow yourself a copy. It's a fantastic and enlightening read.|||I had a doctor like that too. Remember doctors are only human, and they don't know everything. But for every educated person against vegetarianism/veganism, there are probably 10 that accept it. If you have researched veganism a lot, which you probably have, you know more about it than your doctor, so you be the judge.|||don't listen to some doctors who dont know how to use google to do some researche on the nutritious facts about being a vegan
vegans can get protein from nuts and calciums from veges etc.
everything a healthy human being needs can be found in vegies, nuts, tofu, soy milk etc. (note that there are some soy milk or cereal produts with B12 added into them).
hope this helps|||Because vegans and vegetarians will find it harder to have a completely balanced diet, so vegans and vegetarians must take particular attention to ensure they're getting the right amounts of vitamins and minerals. Health practitioners often disagree with these diets because of those risk factors of not having enough of particular minerals such as iron.|||Vegetarianism and Veganism is extremely healthy for you. However, if you are lacking in the area of nutrients and vitamins, it can be rather dangerous. Taking a multivitamin every morning will help with this. Hope I helped!|||Doctors are actual people too, they have opinions and are not omniscient and neutral. Veganism can lead to poor diet and malnutrition unless your diet is very well designed and structured to be balanced and nutritious.|||My doctor thinks it's great. So I guess it just depends on the doctor and their own views. Most doctors do not study much nutrition. So it's best to talk with a doctor who specializes in nutrition, or a dietitian.|||Medical doctors aren't required to study nutrition. Some doctors are arrogant jerks. Maybe you can find another doctor.|||Dr are trained in pills not in nutrition....
you eat healthy he is out of a job so of course he is going to tell you to keep eating meat and dairy so you stay sick and he stays employed..|||Veganism is healthier but people are just ignorant of it because they are too defensive about eating meant|||My doctor says it's fine for me to be vegetarian. I just need to get regular protine and iron tests and make sure I eat a wide variety of food.|||He has probably seen many malnourished vegans in his career.|||probably the doctors u are visiting love their meat. and want everybody to follow....|||The reason why he is worried is because there are lots vitamins and things that you can only get from dairy and meat products. A lot of vegetarians have problems with Iron deficiency's and Calcium deficiency's because they don't take extra care in there diet. If you are interested in becoming a vegan make a point to do research on fruits and nuts that you can eat to replace the things you are losing from dairy and meat products.
Some nuts and avocado's a great sources in calcium and mushrooms are a great source in Iron. As long as you do the research and take the time to do the diet properly you will be fine.
There is nothing wrong with dairy and meat products as long as you eat them in moderation. Like any food if you eat to much it takes a toll on your body. As you get older you are supposed to eat less meat because your body has trouble breaking it down and can cause bowl problems. Dairy is something that as a species we are only supposed to ingest when we are young so at a certain age out body stops producing the Emzyne that breaks down milk. That's why there is a lot of Lactose intolerate people out there.
The thing is as a species we haven't evolved to eat the things we do today but if you keep you diet balanced its fine. Eating meat or not you can keep yourself healthy.|||Humans are omnivourous. They need amino acids found in plants and animal products. Vegetarians and particularly vegans, have a hard time getting the amino acids that are common in eggs, and meat.
I suggest you find someone to talk with about such a diet who is both sympathetic and qualified to give nutrition advise.|||well my doctor fussed at me b/c when i tried to become "vegan" i ended up sick in the hospital.
some people can handle it better than others, as with any other diet.
being "vegan" isn't really about the diet, it's about animal cruelty.|||because there are important things crucial to a healthy diet found in things like meat and dairy
being healthy is having a well-rounded diet|||Because a lot of vegans present with severe nutritional deficiencies.|||nah dude veganism is because of supposed "animal cruelty" not to be healthy|||Pros and cons of everything, m'dear.
It seems to me that there are no great health benefits to these sorts of diet.
But don't get me wrong, I totally support these approached to life, but rather as humanitarian reasons. I am totally against eating any animal that has been made to suffer in any way. This leaves very few animals to eat.
But are there any real health benefits to not eating meat?|||There are no health benefits just because meat isn't involved. There are healthy meats like chicken breast, pork loin, whitefish to name a few. A veger diet is certainly more healthy than eating fatty cuts of meat. But eating healthy meat in tandem with veges is equally as healthy as any completely veger diet.
BTW-there's more to it biologically than just the teeth. The digestive system is indicative as well.|||I'm a vegetarian myself. I have taken a Nutrition class in college and currently in nursing school, so from what I understand,
Vegetarians can actually be healthier than the 'regular' diet if done with care. Mostly because vegetarians do not eat nearly as much saturated fat and cholesterol that meat-eaters consume, which is much better for every part of your body. OF course, you have to watch what you eat and keep it balanced (but everybody has to keep balanced anyway).
Also, I've learned in Nutrition class, that Vegans cannot be healthy just becuase you never get the complete proteins that you can get from milk and eggs. The only way to get complete proteins is to combine other forms of proteins, but that adds tons of calories. When you don't get complete proteins, the incomplete proteins can be stored as fat. So apparently, practically every vegan is obese (meaning higher body fat in relation to lean body weight). I have a couple of vegan friends and some seem like they're doing okay, but I haven't done any lab tests or anything like that!
Hope this helps. From personal experience, I feel great, I hardly get sick, I have low blood pressure, cholesterol, not overweight. But of course, I watch my diet.|||I personally cannot digest meat. I've missed so many days of school due to the pain that eating meat used to put me in. It would sit in my stomach and make me feel like my intestines were twisting. I ended up in the hospital and was suggest to try a vegetarian diet.
This was two years ago. Since then I have never had my stomach pains again, and feel much cleaner and lighter. I don't get sick as much and I've lost weight.
:3 That is how it has benefit me for health reasons.|||There's less chance in getting sick from veggies
than there is from meat.. bacteria, salmonella, mad cows disease, mercury poisoning from fish.
but what diseases does one get from vegetables?
The vegetables have to be spoiled before one gets a disease from them. Vegetarian eating is better than meat eating! It's just common sense!|||I was first attracted to vegetarianism because I had a dangerously high cholesterol level. When I knocked out the meat, my cholesterol level declined to within normal limits.
By the way, Omega fatty acids are available in flaxseed oi.|||Yes, definitely.
The American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada have stated: "Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and photochemical."
Some studies suggest that vegetarian food helps keep body weight under control and reduces risk of Heart diseases. American vegetarians tend to have lower body mass index, lower levels of cholesterol, lower blood pressure, and less incidence of heart disease, hypertension, some forms of cancer, type 2 diabetes, renal disease, osteoporosis, dementias such as Alzheimer鈥檚 Disease and other disorders that may be diet-related.
Various animal food safety scares over recent years have led to increased numbers of people choosing a semi-vegetarian or vegetarian diet. These scares have included Avian flu in poultry, foot-and-mouth in sheep, PCBs in farmed salmon, mercury in fish, generally high dioxin concentrations in animal products, and artificial growth hormones, antibiotics or BSE in cows. According to various organizations, vCJD in humans is strongly linked with exposure to the BSE agent that has been found in beef. Toxins such as lead and mercury can bioaccumulate in animal products in higher concentrations than what is considered safe.|||Yes, read "The China Study."
Vegetarians and vegans have less heart disease, high blood pressure, elevated cholesterol, diabetes, obesity, kidney disease, prostate cancer, bowel cancer, stroke, and gout... sounds like a pretty good health benefit to me.|||It depends on your generic make up, if your prone to cancer and other illness in your family limiting meat or animal products may decrease your changes a little, but other than generic make up the next biggest (from newly published data his week) cause of cancer, heart disease is if you are overweight, a vegan diet that is overladen with calories is just as bad as a meat based one that is too.
The key is a well balance diet....|||Yes definitely.
Even lean meats arent as healthy as people would have you believe.
Meat continues to decay after we have consumed it, it rots inside our system and damages the small finger like lining of the small intestine.
meat also takes a lot longer for the body to digest, it slows down the metabolism and it sits in the colon and can form on the walls, blocking it from being able to absorb nutrients from other food.
Meat also has a very high protein content. far too much protein for what humans actually need, that combined with the excess saturated fat puts a constant heavy load on our liver and kidneys, the liver being responsible for the processing of both fats and proteins. calcium is depleted by the process of getting rid of the excess protein, contributing to osteoporosis.
Meat is very high in saturated fat, even lean meats have saturated fat, far less than darker meats of course but they still have it. humans have no recommended dietary intake for saturated fat. saturated fat is not food and we already get enough of it from the tiny traces found in many other food sources. excess consumption of saturated fat significantly contributes to heart disease and obesity.
The body has ph levels like a pool. for optimum health the blood prefers to be slightly alkaline and the digestive system functions incredibly better in alkaline conditions, when the digestive system is in a highly alkaline state, nutrient absorption is better, nutrient recycling is better and in highly alkaline states the digestive tract can even produce some nutrients all on its own!
all meat and dairy products are overly acidic, even lean meats. they all hamper the digestive systems ability to absorb nutrients from food and its ability to retain the nutrients it has already absorbed.
so yeah, i guess there are some health benefits, mainly incredibly lower risks of:
heart disease, obesity, colon cancer, osteoporosis, acidosis, arthritis, skin conditions, liver cirrhosis and various vitamin and mineral deficiencies......
For me, the thing is that the plant based alternatives for the nutrients that are found in meat are not just 'not bad' for us, they incredibly 'good' for us, often coming packed with various other nutrients and not containing even close to as much harmful things, many of them are also alkaline, leading to an optimum body ph level. the contents of the plant based sources are often more evenly comprised of components and are far more bio-available than meat sources anyway, which means they are simpler to digest, which means we get much more from them.
take protein for example: plant based sources of protein include: legumes, nuts, grains and seeds. not only do they not contain too much saturated fats, they actually contain the incredibly healthy 'essential fatty acids' and vitamin E, among various other nutrients.
take iron for another example: plant based sources of iron include leafy green vegetables and beans. now instead of all that excess protein and saturated fats included with the iron, leafy green vegetables also contain calcium and calcium ascorbate (vit C) with the iron and beans also contain folate and magnesium as well as the iron.
The big one that got me is the metabolism. i wanted to be healthy, i read that not eating meat could help, so i decided to try it for a month to see if it makes any difference. the change to my metabolism was nothing short of amazing. going from average meal turn around times of 24 hours down to 12 hours is awesome. after a nights sleep I wake up in the morning and go and your completely clear... no back log accumulating, I feel so lean and healthy, getting up is easier and exercise is easier, i can also eat much, much more than i used to : )
Good Luck : )|||I'm much healthier not eating meat . . . I made the change because of my health. I was having digestive problems/gall bladder problems and doctors didn't know what to do for me, so I had to make some decisions for myself, so I cut out meat and I was fine . . . it was almost like an immediate turn around. I feel like I'm totally satiated after meals and that I can eat a lot of food without feeling stuffed . . . I think the health benefits are as mental as they are physical . . . and though I haven't had my cholesterol checked, I'd imagine it's much better than it was. I think this is all contingent upon the deliberate balancing of the diet . . . I'm very sure to get enough servings of everything I need every day . . . and not just eat pasta or cheese, for example.|||There are marked benefits to eating a reduced amount of meat, most of them dealing with the cardiovascular and digestive systems.
A vegetarian/vegan diet, provided it is a properly nutritious one, is excellent for anyone with heart problems, IBS, and many other maladies.
Etc.
Blah blah|||Like "me" says, it depends on what your whole diet is like.
Someone that eats turkey once a year for Thanksgiving is
NOT vegetarian and neither is someone that eats Big Macs three times a day.
Someone that eats a healthy, balanced and varied diet with no animal flesh or parts is vegetarian.
So is someone that eats cakes and candy all day everyday.
Your health isn't determined by what you NEVER eat, it is related to what you do eat and how much.|||EATING MEAT CAN GIVE U 7
DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANCER
AND LEAD 2 OBESITY|||No, in fact you would need to take extra omaga fatty acids and such. If you judge an animal by:carnivore, herbivore, and omniovorre you do so by there teeth. We as humans are omniovores.
I don't eat meat but I still use leather. I horse back ride and you can't get away from leather when your in this sport. The all brands of saddles available except for Wintec are genuine leather. Bridles are leather,and some halters are leather. Am I still considered a vegetarian????|||Yes, you are still a vegetarian.
Compare it to - say people that use fossil fuels - it is from an animal. TRUE - some will claim that such doesn't 'count' because the animal died long ago - but it still is very much from an animal. 'How much time has to pass before the animal no longer counts and can be discounted in such a way?' is the question that I always love to ask when people try to sidestep on such points.
Vegans and vegetarians alike have both posted on here how to be 100% is not really possible - esp. in a developed country - a point that I have made repeatedly.
It is a sport. You are not doing harm to the horse. I have friends that raise show horses. Their stable is better than many peoples homes!
Hey - I still have my late husband's leather jacket from riding motorcycles - still have mine. Still have the boots. Did get rid of my chaps and leather pants as they just were plain too big and gave them to someone that could use them. How is me getting rid of them going to help anything - other than fill another landfill?
Some will disagree - but each person should stand for their own convictions and let others stand for their belief and not judge them because they are not the same - as too many people will do.
Moral convictions are - moral convictions. Some will claim one group has higher than the other - while the other will totally discount such claims.
You make the choice that is right for you and stand by that - and let the others adapt their life to suit the others to be part of the follower of the crowd - and be the individual you are and don't try to adapt just to fit another's mold or view.|||I consider veganism and vegetarianism to be dietary choices, not lifestyles.
Some people, especially vegans, have other rules they want to follow, but they are more like animal-rights activists rather than just vegans or vegetarians.|||In general, vegetarianism is a diet and veganism is a lifestyle. Vegans do not eat, use, wear or otherwise consume anything of animal origin whatsoever. Many vegetarians do choose to extend their choice beyond diet, but if you're not eating meat or slaughter byproducts, you are a vegetarian.|||Veganism does.
Vegetarianism is a diet alone. Any ethical or moral inclusions are purely coincidental. On the other hand, veganism is a lifestyle that seeks to avoid any products or ideals that exploit animals in any way. A vegan will make the vegan choice as long as there is one but will not sacrifice their own health nor forfeit their own lives in the process.
http://www.vegsoc.org/info/definitions.h鈥?/a>
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/about_u鈥?/a>|||Yes you are, a vegetarian will use animal products. They don't eat animal meat, but still eat products from animals like eggs, milk, etc.
Are you a vegan person? No.
Are you a vegetarian person? Yes.
*Most people don't know what type of vegitarian they are because they don't even understand the definitions of each type. People say they are a vegan when they really not.|||you are still a vegetarian|||Most vegans do not use any animal products (honey, bees -wax, silk, wool, use cosmetics tested on animals) but it is all about your personal feelings. If you want to eat vegan, and wear leather that's your prerogative, you don't have to fit into some stereotype. Many people eat fish and still consider themselves vegetarian. Also it depends on your reasons, are you becoming vegetarian because you don't like the taste, or you are concerned about animal rights, or some other reason? I think, in answer to your question you are still vegetarian, but not vegan.|||My personal opinion is you are not vegetarian or vegan if you use leather and such because animals are being killed for it. I also do not think someone is vegetarian or anything if they eat fish. I think you can say you eat vegetarian or that you don't eat meat and what not. It depends on who you talk to if you are still vegetarian I guess
Also, any kind of advice or websites on veganism would be appreciated. Thanks a lot! :)|||I think you've made a wise choice on considering Veganism. [:
I'm a Vegetarian, But I am contemplating Veganism, myself. x]
Before you jump into your Veggie-Pants, take the time and ask yourself if you can do it.
You'll need, in your diet:
Iron - Found in Spinach and Laafy Green vegetables like Cabbage, Lettuce and Collard Greens
Vitamin B12 - Best source for me is a dietary supplement (I take a B12 one daily)
Protein - Found in Nuts, Seeds, Beans, And Soy bean products (Veggie burgers, Tofu, Etc)
If you want Omega 3 (Found in fish), You can get them by eating Flaxseed oil products (At my walmart, They sell a variety of Flaxseed oil products like Cookies, And crackers and such! Yum)
As long as you can get these things into your diet, You'll be JUST fine. [: !
Good luck, And healthy Eating!
Peace and Love <3|||While I don't know much about veganism I do know that people who go that way has to be careful with what they eat as they loose a lot of nutriments they'd usually get from eating meats.
I would suggest you read up on veganism on wikipedia (my source), it seems to be the best source, and it has links to other sites with similar topics.|||You will completely cut out your supply of B12 and a lot of other vitamins. Make sure you supplement.|||Nobody should undertake veganism unless they have a PhD in human nutrition. Eat a balanced diet and you can't go wrong. 2 oz of meat, fish or chicken will do, twice a week will usually give you all the nutrients you need. Plus you can actually live a life instead of stressing out about lack of this or that in your diets. And stress is a large factor in heart disease. Also most vegans are fanatical and social outcasts and social isolation is a big cause of stress related heart disease and stroke.|||Go to www.goveg.com to get started, that is where I went. I think you have made an excellent choice to become vegan! Congrats!|||anything regarding food, clothing, furnishings and drapes that is not prepared from animals|||you should buy a book about it. that would clear everything up for you......but whatever you do, DONT juice the book! it doesn't work..trust me.|||IMO, the best places to go for information on this are to
Congratulations on your decision to try out veganism.
1. Michael Greger, MD's online talk Optimum Vegan Nutrition: http://www.drgreger.org/talks/#nutrition Fabulous, entertaining, and very well written. From there, I suggest branching out to his other talks and writings. He's a highly intelligent, well-read, knowledgeable guy who presents his information in a very humorous way.
2. The book, "Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis, RD. She has a wealth of information, answering your question. http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Vegan-Com鈥?/a>
All the answers you need are in those 2 resources. Basically, see that you eat a healthy diet with plenty of fruits and vegetables, low in or devoid of junk food (plenty of vegan junk food out there), see that you get enough omega 3 fatty acids in your diet, and supplement vitamin B12.
You'll also want some cookbooks with easy-to-prepare tasty and healthy vegan recipes. I highly recommend any cookbook by Joanne Stepaniak. My favorites are Vegan Vittles, Saucy Vegetarian, and her Uncheeze Cookbook.|||do a lotta research. read "the food revolution" and "diet for a new america" by john robbins and "the china study" by t. colin campbell. they are great books jam packed with info about everything you need to know about health and nutrition.
for recipes, try out http://www.vegweb.com (be sure to try out the super moist chocolate cake-yum!).
sites to check out:
http://www.vegetariantimes.com/
http://www.vegsoc.com
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/vegan.htm
http://www.vegan.org/going_vegan/eating_鈥?/a>
best wishes :)|||I can tell you about a great book that will give you lots of information, if you don't mind some salty language: "Skinny *****" by Kim Barnouin and Rory Freidman. It's also chock-a-block of great resources for budding vegans.
As long as you eat a balanced diet, lots of fruit and vegetables, you should be fine. Ignore the haters.
Remember that veganism is a lifestyle, and you will want to avoid animal fabrics, honey, beeswax, stuff tested on animals, circuses, zoos, and rodeos.
www.vegweb.com is a great all-around resource.
To find restaurants check out www.happycow.net and www.vegdining.com.
Good luck and congratulations.
Basically, a macrobiotic diet is a traditional diet.
That is, you grow and eat locally and with the seasons. It's the way the everyone used to eat. Eating food that is grown out of season, i.e. grown in green houses or imported from other countries is throwing your body out of whack because you are, for example, eating summer foods in the winter and causing an imbalance in your body as a result. I don't think that a macrobiotic diet excludes animal meat, but mainly it focuses on seafood, since it is following the traditional ways of the Japanese diet, but you are not supposed to eat the Japanese way per se, but the way of where you live... that is, local fruits and vegetables, and as many native plants etc. as possible.|||A vegan diet excludes all animal products but includes all edible plant foods.
A macrobiotic diet excludes dairy, eggs, nightshade vegetables (such as tomatoes, peppers, and potatoes), but does include fish. However, it varies from person to person. Macrobiotic means "big life," and you can probably do a bit of research on it to learn more.
If you go to a macrobiotic restaurant, anything without fish is likely vegan.|||So, you’re vegetarian and you don’t eat eggs,but your brother’s a vegetarian and he eats fish. And your best friend, she doesn’t even drink milk, but your neighbor calls herself vegetarian, even though you saw her eat chicken the other day. What’s going on? The truth is, being a vegetarian can mean lots of different things. Everyone has a different definition of what they do and don’t want to eat. Fortunately, if you want to be more specific, there are a number of useful terms. Let’s break it down.
Vegetarian
This is a general term. About 5 percent of the current U.S. population considers themselves to be vegetarian, although a number of varying dietary habits fall into this category. Usually this term refers to someone who doesn’t eat any kind of meat, including beef, pork, chicken, turkey, and seafood. However, there are many people who don’t quite match this description, but still use this label. These include …
Pollo-Vegetarian
This is someone who follows a mostly vegetarian diet but is known to eat the occasional McChicken sandwich or nibble at some turkey jerky. In reality, birds are meat, so this isn’t really a form of vegetarianism, but lots of people who call themselves vegetarians do indulge in a bit of chicken every so often.
Pesco-Vegetarian
Again, this is someone who follows a mostly vegetarian diet but who does eat a little meat—in this case, seafood. For some reason, lots of people don’t seem to count aquatic creatures as animals. This is often for health reasons: fish is a healthier choice than pork or beef, for instance. Other people choose to eat fish because it doesn’t affect land use as much as raising livestock does. However, overharvesting and polluting our seas and lakes is a significant environmental concern. Nonetheless, this is a popular diet, although, like pollo-vegetarianism, it’s not technically vegetarian.
Lacto-Ovo-Vegetarian
This person eats no meat, including seafood, but does eat dairy products and eggs. Most lacto-ovo-vegetarians follow this basic rule: if you have to kill the animal to get the product, then don’t eat it. Therefore, milk is okay, but gelatin, which is made from horse hooves, is not.
Lacto-Vegetarian
This person eats no meat or eggs but does eat dairy products. Dairy products include cows’ milk and any food you can make from cows’ milk, such as ice cream, yogurt, cheese, cottage cheese, sour cream, butter, and so on. Other animal products, such as goat cheese, are also included.
Ovo-Vegetarian
A person on this diet eats no meat and no dairy products but does eat eggs. This isn’t too common. (The lives of hens that provide table eggs are at least as miserable as chickens raised for meat, and eggs are no healthier in our diets than meat, so it’s little wonder there are few ovo-vegetarians.)
Vegan
About 1 percent of the U.S. population follows a vegan (pronounced “VEE-gun”) diet. This excludes all meat, eggs, and dairy products, and usually any other food produced by animals, such as honey. A strict vegan also avoids products that may seem innocent, such as refined sugar (white table sugar), because animal bones are used to process it. Many vegans also refuse to use nonedible animal products, such as leather, silk, wool, feathers, and so on. This can get really complicated. For example, did you know that camera film isn’t vegan? Gelatin is used to manufacture it. Or that some lotions contain lanolin, which comes from wool? Strict vegans have to be very well informed.
Macrobiotic
A follower of the macrobiotic diet is mainly vegetarian, but this diet sometimes includes seafood. All other meat products are excluded,as well as eggs and dairy products. Basically, this diet focuses on eating local and seasonal foods that balance each other in harmonic ways. Some people follow this diet as a philosophy of life and others follow it for health reasons.
Fruitarian
A fruitarian is a person who eats only fruits and vegetables, often including beans, nuts, and grains, usually raw. It is important that these things are taken from the plant without
killing it.
Raw or Living Food Diet
A person who follows this diet eats only raw foods. The concern is that heating foods above 116°F destroys important enzymes that help with digestion. This person also believes that cooking diminishes the vitamin and mineral content of the food.
Hurray for all types of vegetarians! All of these choices can be healthy—some more than others—but it is important to be well informed about the health benefits and risks of any diet that you choose to follow. Although people often feel strongly that their choice is the best and may be critical of others, the reality is that cutting your meat consumption in any way is a positive step. Reducing the amount of meat in your diet benefits your health, promotes animal wellbeing, and helps the planet support the growing human population
|||http://altmedicine.about.com/od/popularh…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegan
I live In Gibraltar , its very small and we dont really have an active vegan or vegetarian community but I want to open peoples eyes up a little more but .. I'm 17 and my parents don't support me in this lol.|||Hey, don't mind the rude people; several of them come on the Veg section to preach at us quite often (and will never see the irony.)
:)
I think your first step would be to try to find some veggies in your school. Maybe you could find a few students and possibly even a veg teacher. You may be surprised and find some teens who would like to be vegetarian but don't know how to go about it, or are having bad experiences with their parents.
You should put up fliers in your school to find people who are interested. Perhaps you can ask your parents to set up a new email account (something vegetarian-y) because you wouldn't want your real email posted for all to see, and see if anyone contacts you.
You can also create a yahoo group using your email that you can post around the school.
As you can see just from posting this question, you will have to have thick skin to do this because you are probably going to get a lot of mean and nasty people who will want to mess with you at first.
If you do get potential members, make sure you meet in school at a time when a lot of people are around; you don't want any creepies to take advantage of the situation.
Even if you can get a small group together and at least one sympathetic teacher to help you, you can start brainstorming together about ways to share info or help teens/people who want to go veg but need help and information.
Heck, if you can't get a teacher, you can form an underground veg newsletter. Put together a double-sided, 1-page conversation and information sheet every month or two, go to your nearest copy store and make tons of copies and hand them out at school. You can even put your money together with your newfound veg classmates and get a P.O. Box where students can send questions and comments to help you figure out what issues to address next month.
:)
Edit- I am not sure where you live, but you may also be able to find vegetarian groups near you (cities, colleges etc.) that you can drive to or contact for help starting one up in your community.|||Thanks and good luck.
:)
If nothing else, seeing how horrible some people can be when you mention your belief system shows the need for you to not hide your beliefs and for you to be proud of who you are.
A great book for coping with rudeness is "Living Among the Meat Eaters." Report Abuse
|||How about having a big pig roast. that always get a lot of people!!|||Listen to your parents. They have the wisdom of the ages. Keep your personal lifestyle decisions personal. Don't try to force others to fit your mold and hope they don't try to force theirs on you.|||start you own TV show
do you have free cable TV show in Gibraltar
start there
and watch you peas & carrots|||Why not put notes on bulletin boards about healthy eating. Explain why Vegetarian and vegans eating is a healthier eating way than eating dead animal. You can get the info you need from your local library in the Cook book area and just maybe your library might have a book on Vegetarianism! i got one but I bought mine at a book store.. It's titled Are U confused? it's all about vegetarianism! U could use the same title for your articles. If U want to you could write a book. Maybe open a Veggy Corner Cafeteria if you can cook good or at least know a good cook!|||I have to say, i am a pescetarian, and from experience, if you start preaching stuff like this you get a load of **** from meat eaters, they just dont like it.
Its fine if you want to be proud of who you are, and actually amke a diff, but its pretty tough.|||well, I can obviouly say that you will pick Lilliayn for best answer but I would like to put my two cents worth in here:
I think what you're doing is great and no matter what people like Blue Sea are going to come and destroy you;re dreamsbut that doesn't mean that you have to stop them their. Your parents might disagree with u now but they will get used to it sooner or later. You have a right to make a difference. They have to back you up at some time in teh long run. They are many communities in which people like vegans and vegetarian go to. You can even make your own group. It may be hard to find vegans/vegetarians but you can start by making one. You can give people ideas and give them notice. Don't try to push them into being a vegetarian but make the aware of it. Because that's when people like Blue Sea start terrorising u for making them feel made for eating a burger.
Like I said, what you are doing is terrific and many people will block your way but that shoudn't stop u and you're not preaching, your just expressing your opinions and ideas and that's wonderful. and just because your 17 doesn't mean that you can't make a difference. am i right?
Good Luck!!!!|||Go to the Peta site. You can sign up to do an
adopt a college program. Before that though,
ask the presidents of some of the local universi-
ties and community colleges if you can put
up a display and give people pamplets or
vegetarian starter kits on a voluntary basis.
This is a good way to meet other vegetarians
in your area also.|||You arent going to "open anyones eyes"
we eat meat for many reasons.......
It makes us strong
it tastes good
we wouldnt be here if cave men at nothing but veggies, why do you think we evolved pointed teeth for tearing meat.
We actually work and people who do real work cannot survive on a vegan diet.
Dont ask dont tell........It is your personal choice. If you "open peoples eyes" by talking to them about it then you may get a knukle sandwich
shut up and MYOB|||See, this is the problem with veggies...YOU PREACH!
Why don't you figure people are not as dumb as you think. And better yet can make up their own minds as to what to eat and what not to. Geez, just because someone enjoys a hamburger now and again doesn't mean they don't know or understand how to eat healthy.
Stop wanting so damn much attention.
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What is so funny and so small minded is that you assume from my answer that I eat red meat.
I've been vegetarian for about 5 years now, and I've recently decided to try going vegan.
I genuinely no longer want to consume animal products and I'm genuinely grossed out by them, but I can't help feeling that it's just another way for me to obsessed about my diet.
I'm a serial yo-yo dieter, but I've decided to never go on another diet and just eat properly.
What do you think? Is veganism just another food obsession opportunity?|||Veganism in itself is certainly NOT an eating disorder. Despite what many people think, the vegan diet is not necessarily limited. In fact, going vegan opened up a whole new world of foods that I probably never would have tried otherwise, and I would say my diet is more varied than the average person who eats meat, milk, eggs, etc.
However, it is possible that an eating disorder (ED) could certainly manifest itself as veganism. Many people with an ED will use vegetarianism (in any form) as a way to cover up their ED. It's a good cover to not eat any calorie dense foods, and opt to only have salad. (Note that only having salad is NOT what a healthy, normal vegan eats on a regular basis. Sometimes we may opt for the salad at a restaurant if it is not very vegan friendly and there are no other options, but we're not usually ecstatic about it.)
*If* this decision is truly because you care about animals and don't want to contribute to their suffering and not an attempt to "diet", then I say go for it! If your focus is to just eat properly, as you have stated, then there is nothing wrong with going vegan. Be sure to research this decision to make yourself aware of what is and isn't vegan, and to make sure you get a varied diet. I have included the link to the ADA's position on vegetarian diets. I would also recommend that you read "Becoming Vegan" (link also included) which is a great resource on vegan nutrition.
It may also be helpful to see a vegan-friendly registered dietitian (ask your doctor for a referral). For dietitians in your area, see the link to the ADA website.|||no being vegan is not a form of an eating disorder...
it is a brave lifestyle choice....
i agree with you just eat properly......being vegan should help you lose weight more so than being vegetarian where you can still eat cheese and ice cream....|||no. congradulations.|||All i gots to say ..is jus eat properly..Eat less, you need some kinda meat in you..or eat Fish you can try that...|||People think that veganism is a disorder because they feel most vegan are unhealthy from not getting enough since they dont eat meat, or any sort of animal products .(Eggs or dairy) Make sure you get lots B12 and protien, which is allot easier than it use to be.|||Some comedian said "show me a vegan baby, and I'll show you a dead baby, babies need milk."|||Not at all. They are many vegans who are overweight. As longas you make sure that you have a balanced diet then you should be fine. Look at this article if ou want nutritional information: http://www.recipesforvegans.co.uk/vegann鈥?/a>|||NO-WHY ARENT YOU FEELING WELL?-ITS JUST COMMON SENSE NOT TO EAT DEAD ANIMAL CARCASS-THAT WAS MOST LIKELY CRUELLY MURDERED IN AN UNSANITARY SLAUGHTERHOUSE OF DEATH AND SUFFERING...NOW PASS THE PORKCHOPS PLEASE?|||I think we start getting into trouble when we go to extremes. There is surely a middle ground....|||Veganism is strict, it's true. But it is the perfect diet for anyone with health issues. People don't realize that arthritis, allergies, any auto-immune disorder would be 100% better if they ate a vegan diet. Since it is so strict, I only eat vegan for short periods of time and then eat a wee bit of cheese. But honestly dairy and eggs is not really good for us, they just taste good!
But yes, ANYTHING can offer an obsessive opportunity to someone determined to make it so.|||No. Veganism is an entire lifestyle that includes diet as one part of it. How did practicing your ethical believes become an eating disorder all the sudden?|||it's not bad but u need to monitor what vitamins ur getting and what ur not.|||No. It is not. It is the perfect choice in an imperfect world.|||it's definitely not "normal" but i don't think that it is a disorder.|||Not if you're doing it for the right reasons. I know a lot of people, myself included, that don't eat meat just because they don't like the taste. None of us are starving to death or unhealthy because of it.
If there's any doubt about your eating habits, maybe you can consult a nutritionist who specializes in vegan diets, just to make sure it's balanced and healthy.
an organization funded by tax payer money for taking in unwanted, abused, stray domestic animals. dogs, cats, and small pets, not livestock. not addressing any inhumane treatment of livestock either, just disparaging the use of animals for food in the first place. i have nothing against veganism but i don't think it has anything to do with what this organization is responsible for.|||No. They're job is to be promoting spaying/neutering, adoption, info on the unethical practices of puppy mills, responsibilities of pet ownership and better means of keeping track of pets. They are animal control, not PETA. They work with domestic pets, and that is where 100% of their focus needs to be, keeping domestic pets safe and people safe from unruly domestic pets. If workers from the pound want to [on their free time, and in no connection with the shelters] want to promote veganism, more power to them. But that is not what the tax payers are paying for. I'd complain to the city. You may even have a lawsuit of clear cut misappropriation of taxpayer money.|||No, because as vegans are fond of saying, that's not what they are designed" for. Government agencies are supposed to implement policy not promote personal lifestyle choices.|||I'd need more information...does the organization just have leaflets or something around the place? If they do, it was probably dropped off by some local animal rights group.
Nothing wrong with that.|||No they should not. They should be dealing with animal control issues, and that's it.
Government is too intrusive as it is.|||If my tax dollars went towards advocating something that only 2% of the population agreed with I would be furious.|||No, veganism is completely irrelevant here. What does that have to do with animal control?|||Absolutely not. Tax dollars should not be used for personal interests.|||I dont know do you have a large Vietnamese population there?
I appreciate the broad range of ideas and opinions on YA, but I am still amazed that so many people still don鈥檛 understand vegetarianism and veganism. There are all these categories floating around which only serve to confuse everyone. And many people continue to insist that eating chicken or fish occasionally is still vegetarian or vegan. Why do people find vegetarianism and veganism so confusing??? I find myself getting frustrated and annoyed with these people. Does it also bother other vegans and vegetarians ???|||It bothers me because it means that no matter what I (accurately) call myself, people will offer me fish or shrimp or chicken thinking it's OK.
Yeah, it's super simple. If it comes from a dead animal, vegetarians don't eat it. If it comes from an animal, period, vegans don't eat it. Vegetarians can make their own call on dairy and eggs. End of story, people.|||They find it confusing because of people who eat fish and chicken and call themselves vegetarians/vegans. And people wonder why we get irritated when we meet one of them.|||no use getting crappy at them, theyll only learn by experience, like me.
i guess by seeing a pig or cow die - they'll b not eating them but can eat others things becuz they just dont associate them with animals - so i think its just up to them to learn one day that they had killed animals even tho they were vegetarian.
but no, it doesnt bother me any more - thats life :(|||I am neither, and it even bothers me when people comment on things they haven't educated themselves about. I can empathize with your frustration.I wouldn't dream of commenting unless I knew exactly what I was speaking of....tho, those times can be turned into perfect opportunities to educate these same people.....it starts with one person @ a time....Thanks.|||Oh, it bothers me all the time. Especially when the people who call themselves vegetarians/vegans are in fact NOT.
I mean, how the hell do you change your lifestyle not even knowing what it is.
The people who aren't either just don't really care enough to learn about it because it doesn't affect them. I get that... but still, have some common knowledge of the people around you.|||Q. R. (the first person who answered) said it perfectly. i used to not eat any meat at all, and i considered myself a vegetarian. now that i eat chicken and fish again, i no longer call myself a vegetarian. when people call me a vegetarian, i actually correct them and tell them that someone who eats any sort of meat at all is NOT a vegetarian. and i hate when people call themselves vegans or vegetarians and are like "well i'm a vegan except for bacon." hahah i want to laugh at them but it's too annoying to be funny!!|||As Linda says, it's a case of educating/correcting them one at a time. Perhaps ones who have been corrected will help to correct others later. It's a slow process, but we'll get there eventually. Just keep plugging away and don't get too upset about it. There are bigger issues in the universe to worry about (I can't think of any right now, but I'm sure there are some!).|||It's not that most people do not understand it because there is really not much to get confused about. It's just that people don't believe in those principles the way you do. So some people say they are vegetarians but eat fish. So fine, that's wrong, but really does it matter? Does it diminish YOU as a vegetarian in any way? Vegetarians being the minority say they don't care about other people's opinions about how they live their life. Fine, so why bother with the way other people live their lives? Or call themeselves? Frankly, this obsession with the insignificant is what I find annoying. The endless bickering over practiclly nothing.|||why in the world would you let something so minor bother you? what a waist of time. the answer is NO, I don't let things bother me that other people don't know. it's life --|||I am pretty bothered that there is such a different opinion on what a vegetarian is and what a vegan is. Many people will say they have friends who are vegans who eat eggs (which is absolutely ludicrous). Many vegetarians say they eat poultry and fish. And then there are those that ask if dairy and eggs are vegetarian. Where did people get so mixed up?
The terms vegetarian and vegan are cut and dry. Vegetarians don't eat meat or products that were produced from flesh and vegans don't consume or provide funds to industries that test, sell, or promote animals or animal by-products for food, exploitation, entertainment, sport, testing, or otherwise.
I have no idea where everyone went wrong. It's really simple to me. I blame the hormones in meat and milk for confusing everyone.|||Hey,
I completely agree. I am a vegetarian and have been for 3 years. I have been a vegan for 6 years. I'm also 14. :D I've asked people a similar question. They say that when they think of vegetarian they think of vegetables. Some peoples idea is that we only eat vegetables. Which is completely inaccurate! I eat loads and loads of Pasta and pizza which is not just vegetables. ^^ They also said that they thought that when people said they were vegetarian it meant that they wanted to loose weight. I started being a vegetarian when I was 5. Everyone thought it was a joke and wouldn't last because it was my own decision but I haven't touched a sliver of meat since then. I had this one really good friend that is still my friend. She had been annoying me and judging me for years about me being vegetarian. She just told me recently that she was bugging me about this because she envied my self-discipline. Maybe these are the reasons to why people find vegetarianism and veganism so confusing.
^^|||i understand it perfectly well...what i dont understand on the other hand is that all veggies and vegans think that any1 who eats meat clearly doesnt know whats goin on and are stupid...i know what happens to the food i eat i know where it comes from...so the question is two way why do alot of veggies not understand us...u may say we are ignorant...and we may say you are ignorant...tell me how many ppl this week have posted question that start like this "hi im 11/12/13/14/15 and i want to be a vegetarian and all there reason is ONE video they saw????|||I'm slightly irritated with individuals who call themselves veg*n while continuing to consume non-veg*n foods, and I think I have a right to be irritated.
It's those omnivorous individuals who call themselves vegetarian or vegan ("oh, but I still eat cheese, chicken and fish - I could never give those up") who do a disservice to all vegetarians and vegans. It's because of those people incorrectly using the term vegetarian that the rest of us have to deal with misinformed individuals who insist that vegetarians eat fish/chicken/whatever because their friend "Joe" is vegetarian and he eats those things.
Anyways, I do understand where you're coming from. That said, consider the forum you're on: Yahoo! Answers is hardly an appropriate avenue to find/give support of veg*ns and would-be veg*ns. If you want to intelligently discuss veg*nism, talk to veg*ns.|||I am vegan, and Yes, it does bother me to some extent and I can understand how you'd feel frustrated and annoyed with people who don't "get it" or even worse, don't WANT to "get it" even after you've tried to help them repeatedly.
Most people have become so distanced from the source of their food that they really do forget that their filet of chicken or fish came from a real, live animal that was killed for its flesh. The socialization to eat meat runs so deep. The very idea of vegetarianism (or worse, veganism) reminds people that eating meat is a conscious choice and that is just so FOREIGN to them.
I think a lot of people just can't understand WHY we would choose NOT to eat meat. They build up these emotional walls... and do not want to engage themselves intellectually. They half-listen when our justifications create feelings of anxiety and guilt. Some people seem to like staying caught up in arguing about our strange dietary "rules" in order to avoid (or suppress) an empathetic response. They'd rather carp about "do you get enough protein?" than really engage the issue.
Choosing NOT to eat meat was really a paradigm-shifting experience for me. My whole world view changed. So I try to be humble and remember I was "once blind"... we've just got to be patient with these people, I guess. Human animals need empathy, too. (:|||Oh I understand. I find it really irritating sometimes.
I have come to realize that many people think that we are extreme activists. You know, like when someone asks "Do you get angry if your cat kills a mouse?" That just doesn't make sense at all.
The eating fish and chicken part I don't mind so much because I have traveled a bit and have found out that many cultures don't consider fish and fowl meat. In Costa Rica, they don't consider fish and fowl meat, meat is red and pork....so if you say, no meat, there may be chicken or fish in there. Korea is much the same.
Plus, places like Costa Rica and Mexico, they don't have many vegetarians. They don't eat steak much, but they have their traditional foods that consist of meats. And well, western countries have people from many cultures...so I feel that I can understand this questions, that being said, it sure is asked alot...and I rarely answer it anymore :)
I just find it annoying when the people who are anti-veggie but don't understand any of the reasons that we are what we are.
I guess we put ourselves into a minority, now we deal with the masses of ignorant people (I am not trying to be rude).
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Yeah I agree, I hate explaining over and over why I chose to be veggie. Why can't people just accept it and move on?
OK so I'm different. I'm *not* some kinda freak
:D|||They find it confusing because vegetarian is a word used for animals (which we are) that do not eat meat. Vegan is a word that is made up by humans that do not eat or use any animal products, including eggs, milk or leather. That's nice, but you should embrace the differences in cultures. If you live in another clime (frozen tundra) its rather hard to grow kiwis and citrus so you eat to stay alive and whatever is available. If you have to eat blubber to keep your children alive, would you do that? We are so spoiled. Yes, I am annoyed.
Do you know of any tribes or ethnic groups that have been practicing vegetarianism or veganism for thousands of years?
I understand that the earliest Modern Humans were hunter-gatherers and therefore relied upon animal products to survive and propagate.
At what point did vegetarianism or veganism become a viable option. Did it coincide with the introduction of agriculture?|||Hi. A lot of information on ancient vegetarianism is based on speculation. Some records from the Ancient Greeks record that people cose vegetarian diets. Homer and Herodotus mention people in North Africa who only ate lotus plants. Of course, they may simply have been recording a myth.
About 2600 years ago a religion known as Orphism encouraged avoiding meat and the famous Greek mathematician and philosopher Pythagoras (as in the 'Square on the hypotenuse...') was himself a vegetarian and it was known as the 'Pythagorean Diet' which also included avoiding eggs. Socrates, Plato and Aristotle are also recorded as following a vegetarian diet. Their objection to meat was partly ethical and partly religious/spritual - they were not trying to be part of a health fad.
Of course it should be remembered that many ancient cultures had some contact with each other and the similarity of avoiding egg and emphasis on non-violence is strikingly similar to the practices in Hinduism wher meat and eggs are avoided by those seeking a more spiritually pure life following the principle of Ahimsa (meaning non-violence). The origins of these beliefs stem back thousands of years.
Also going back thousands of years are the other Asian faiths including Buddhism, Jainism and Taoism all encourage avoiding meat, not all for the same reasons. In Buddhism and Jainism is is about the respect for life and Jainism has the principle of Ahimsa in comon with Hindus.
I think some arguments that we are 'designed' to eat or not eat meat are pretty unscientific. I think ancient people did whatever they could to survive, took high energy high protein food when they could, which included meat. I do think that far back in our evolutionary ancenstry we probably would find a creature that mainly ate fruit and veg - certain physiological traits suggest that, such as enzymes in our saliva designed to help digest plants and also the inability to synthesize vitamin C (as it would have been abundant in the food) in a similar way to how the cat family don't synthesize Taurine, which is abundant in prey animals but don't eat fruit - so instead can make their own vitamin C!
The development of agrigulture is a very important connection.
I think it would be more meaningful to describe ancient people as 'Gatherer/Hunters' - as they woudl have done less hunting and more gathering, just because hunting is a high energy activity, which may be worth it if you can eat what you catch but only goes part way to feed everyone back home. Also meat doesn't keep so there would have been wastage. Also humans cannot survive on meat alone and need other nutrients that would have been gathered.
When agriculture started food became more abundant, and people could start to develop other technologies - initially for farming purposes, but also to help store, protect and cook their produce. Food could be made to last longer and this began to mean that people became less reliant on meat.
Successful agriculture relies on a lot of wisdom, watching the seasons and the stars to time the planting of crops to get a good yield. This probably did lead to the beginning of a priesthood in communities that began to depend on agriculture. I would argue that just about everything that we consider to be the hallmarks of great civilisations depend on agriculture. The great temples, cities and the health of large amounts of people are all a product of agriculture. The ancient Egyptians could not have built the pyramids without the crops to feed the workers bread and beer. If they had tried to feed them with hunted animals they would have run out pretty quickly!
Being able to produce large and reliable amounts of dood through agriculture we have been able to develop all the technologies that make our lives today much easier (or sometimes more stressful).
Thanks to agriculture I don't have to run around in a loincloth all day chasing deer with a bow and arrow.
Thats just a summary I suppose. But its a good question and a real answer would take take hours and a lot of in depth research.|||I'm pretty sure some Monks have been vegan for a very very long time. I'm not completely sure though.|||The China, Cung Kuo or Zhong Guo (Zhong means Center and Guo means Country), The Center Country, has a long vegetarian history since beginning. Unfortunately, there is no book to prove it. It is all about the legend. Ancient Chinese lived in the land surrounded by Long River and Yellow River and surrounded by many tribes. (That is why it is called the Center Country). They had Prophets as Kings.
The first Prophet-King was Fu Xi. He was vegetarian. He taught people to settle down and plant seeds. The next Prophets taught people to make medicines from herbs, clothes from cotton, earthenware, house, cart, ship, etc. It was the history of Chinese civilization.
Ancient Chinese lived in peace and welfare and they respected The Prophet King so deeply. They called their Prophet-King as Son of God (Thien Ce or Tian Zi). The succession was from the Prophet to his best student. Ancient Chinese were very religious and vegetarian. They made and ate tofu, the best vegetarian food ever known. They called their spiritual Way of Life as Tao. Tao is based on inner-spiritualism, naturalism, pacifism, compassionism, and vegetarianism.|||In India, vegetarianism has been around for at least 600 years before Christ, possibly longer. People of the Hindu, Jain and Buddhist religions.
Some ancient Greeks also practiced vegetarianism based on the writings of the philosopher Pythagoras.
The Essenes were a Jewish/Christian group who practiced vegetarianism. They were around a little after the time of Christ and possibly before.
Yes, agriculture would have been well established by then.
Some people get very irritated when the topic of vegetarianism is brought up. I understand that it's annoying when people try to make others feel guilty for eating meat, but when the topic is just non-offensively brought up, why the negative reaction?
Why are some people angered by vegetarianism/veganism? And likewise, why do some vegans get mad when meat-eaters talk about their delicious chicken soup? Why meddle in someone's personal, dietary choices if you're not eating their food?|||Veganism does not offend people, vegans do, just like Islam does not offend most people, but terrorist Muslims do.
"Why meddle in someones personal, dietary choices if you're not eating their food?"... exactly.. if every vegan/vegetarian practiced this philosophy, the annoying "preachy" vegetarian/vegan stereotype would not have been formed in the first place.. Unfortunately though most vegans and vegetarians do not fall into this category there are enough loudmouth groups and individuals like PETA and ""activist" fanatics who try to speak for all of you. They are the ones you should blame..|||a lot of time, since veganism is something new, most people will want to immediately discredit it, most people are afraid of what they do not fully understand|||Omnivores tend to feel threatened and annoyed by anything that could break down their safe little world of ignorance. Like most people, they don't like being preached to or made to feel like what they are doing is wrong.
If an Omnivore talks about how good his soup is, most V/V would smile and say "that's great". It's when it turns into "MMMM, this dead chicken soup with blood in it is SOOOOO good! Too bad you can't eat it, you don't know what you are missing. I don't know how you live without Chicken. I'd die if I couldn't eat meat. MMMMM, it's SOOOOO good. I feel so sorry for you." that it turns into a problem.
What you call meddling is what some others call speaking up. Some people cannot let what they see as cruelty go unpunished. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Apathy encourages cruelty.
Edit: Crusader? ROFL.|||It's not just a vegan issue, it's a problem with ignorant people being ignorant in general. You'll see this reaction when people talk about politics, religion, the economy, business, sports, you name it. It can happen for a variety of reasons, but typically it's because that person mistakenly believes someone having a different opinion means that their opinion is being challenged.|||No one is angered by vegetarianism in general. It's only the ones who happen to be preachy that ever bother anyone, or at least that's how it is for me.|||Meat eaters have all those artificial growth hormones and antibiotics passed to them from their meat, which increases aggression. Er hem. Vegans get sick of hearing aggressive meat eaters taunt them, because as much as it sounds like a harmless joke when they do it, it really is pointed and is not actually joking around in all fun most of the time. It's that underlying aggression thing going on again. Yep.|||I have nothing against veganism/vegetarianism, what I do dislike though are people who go out of their way to tell one side of a story to make them look better by comparison. In all honesty.. this applies to EVERYTHING, not just V&V; news, politics, science, arts, ect.
Quite a few people make exagerated claims are made with no (or worse..a bias/ intentionally misleading) source to support them. Ignorance and generalization are two things that irk me the most.
If people want to be vegetarian/vegan, like I said.. I have no problem with you. If you chose to eat meat... again.. no problem. Chose not to eat dairy, no problem... no fruit.. no problem. HOWEVER if you decide to talk about/discuss your dietary choices (whatever they may be), please use whole facts and avoid coming to brash conclusions. Nothing is worse than having to lie/mislead people to get your point across.|||As far as vegetarians getting annoyed with meat eater talk about their soup that depends on how the conversation is going. It it's just mentioned casually then usually wouldn't be a problem. I think most people who get upset about vegetarianism feel like vegetarians are rejecting their value system by being vegetarian and that makes some people very uncomfortable.|||It isn't veganism, it's vegans. It's because crusaders like Moxie and aqua exist. People aren't stupid; everybody knows what's coming, what their real intentions are, regardless of how non-offensively it's phrased..|||Why is anyone angry at anything? It's just how people work; you can choose to either fight against it or put up with it.|||they are insecure about their uninformed choices.
they are embarrassed to be mindlessly following the herd.
they are ashamed of themselves for the previous two reasons.|||Some people can't stand that other people aren't enjoying the wholesomeness of bacon.
There was a topic of your choice option on the CommonApp and I've recently really wanted to write an essay on this cool view of veganism I have.
Is that ok, even though most people hate vegans? They won't not admit me just because I'm vegan, right?|||If you write your essay on veganism- dont preach to the reader about why they should become vegan because this might be offensive. Instead, talk about how it has affected your life and how it is such a part of who you are.
http://www.oppapers.com/search_results.p鈥?/a>|||They will not discriminate against you for being vegan. However, since most people are not, it will be easy for you to offend the committee reading your essay by claiming some moral high ground for not eating meat, especially since high school students often do that even though they have very little knowledge of the background on a subject (i.e., students who write about abortion being evil who have never had the experience of an unwanted pregnancy).
One of my co-workers on the construction site is showing signs of veganism. You know, the usual signs, like pale skin, weakness, muscle loss, etc.. Are there any other signs I should look for? I want to confront this guy because he is a good friend, however, I want to respect his choices as well. What can I do?|||What you know ANOTHER vegan!! Frankly I'm shocked how many is that in your town 20,000?. Mental is too kind a word to describe you!!! He just isn't a fat guy and that cr** about loosing muscle is rubbish !!!! As Greenghost has said before , we can get EVERYthing we need from a vegan diet (that includes proteins and amino acids - the little building blocks that make up proteins !!!!!!)
Take yourself to get some More ECT from the nice Psychiatric day centre and then to vision express for some new glasses and go to the shops, buy yourself a make over ,a life and a personality!!!!!!!
H is right about the libido. You are just sore 'cos your friend gets it more than you do!!!|||Go and sleep up a tree.|||Hmm... I guess you could politely ask him if he's a vegan and also GO AWAY NOBODY LIKES YOU.|||Uh, veganism is a way of life...a choice of not eating meat, not eating by products of an animal (eg. honey, eggs, milk), not wearing any type of material made of animal (leather, silk) or even using products that have been tested on animals such as cosmetics or medications. It is NOT an illness like you are implying.|||HI FHG! What can you do? You could accept my generous offer to trade homesteads (under your baldness question) and solve both our problems. I would LOVE to move to your vegan city and I'm sure you would love my area since there isn't another veggie for 90 miles. I know I should list that distance in your native Kilo-metre's but with your meat powered brain I'm sure the conversion factor of 1.6 is no problem for you<g>. Don't you want to be able to raise and slaughter your own animals? I know you can't do that in vegan city where you currently live! Here you'll have several acres to ranch and please accept my apology that my veggie brain can't handle the .4 factor to convert acres to hectares.
Don't you want to get away from all those vegans and live in beef country??|||There are no symptoms from veganism. People who shows signs are not eating right. All you might get from turning vegan is a headache because your body is adjusting to your new diet.|||'symptoms of veganism'
You're funny.|||There is no signs of veganism. There is only signs of a poor diet. Veganism is actually MUCH better for your body than any diet that has animal products or by products. If you care enough about the guy you may want to get him a book about veganism and tell him that you respect his diet but think is may be a little deficient in something.|||You're so funny. Not.|||These symptoms sound like eating McDonalds for every meal.|||What is your problem? First you pretend to have neighbours who "force" their kids into a vegan diet and want to call the social welfare, then you worry about hair loss in vegans and now you apparently know this guy with the "usual signs" of so-called veganism. What are you, a witch hunter for vegans? Get a life, dude! You are becoming so boring!|||No..it's not veganism..it appears you are spreading that untreated condition you asked about earlier. You should get it checked out..it can be very dangerous to you and those around you.|||Yes! Do you want a list? Okay, you asked for it:
Higher sex drive, better stamina, a greater level of magnetism, higher intelligence, a greater degree of kindness and compassion, reduced impact on the environment,
increased happiness, increased likelihood of getting a girlfriend, a sense of humour, an ability to laugh at all the people who think you're somehow going to go terribly pale and ill just because you don't eat meat.
There, I think that's the ones I've noticed and I'm sure the other vegans have some more.
What you can do is stop lying, stop trolling and get off the section dedicated to lovely people like me!|||What century are you from? I thought those were the signs of too much mastubation. Check for hairy palms, and refer him to the barber or a blacksmith for some blood letting. While you're at it, see if his wooden teeth fit properly and check him for fleas, he might have the Black Plague or Consumption.|||My personal symptoms before I move to veganism is discomfort when eating flesh foods and scences of animal suffering flashing across my mind.
Pale skin, weakness and muscle loss is not a symptom of Veganism. Unless the vegan is eating junk foods and living on an unbalanced diet.
I suppose working on a construction site requires physical exertion. Perhaps u can recommend him to eat a larger proportion of food, including carbohydrate based foods e.g. grains. As well as eat a balanced diet.
Below are 2 links to vitamins and minerals and where they can be found in a vegan diet.
http://www.vegetarian-society.org/downlo鈥?/a>
http://www.vegetarian-society.org/downlo鈥?/a>|||advise protein supplements, xx|||What can you do?
How about stopping posting fake questions on here? How many times do we have to tell you a balanced vegan diet is healthier than eating meat?LOL.
For any newbies Foxhunter is a vegan and vegetarian hater who gives answers and asks questions that make it sound like he is the only meat eater in a town of vegans.
Wish I lived there lol.Most common theory is that he has no life,no friends and some kind of mental illness.
P.S. We should feel sorry for him too because apparently they bully him lol.|||I think you mean malnutition brought on by eating a vegan diet?
The only way you can really tell is through a blood test- by a doctor.
Assuming the problem is brough on by the person themselves, try to offer advice and support as oppose to making some one do something and reassuring them you are trying to help things get better, not trying to control the person. Remind them of the reasons they should get a blood test/help/change what they are doing,
If they still say no to a blood test or amking any health changes, all you can do is be ther for them.
But check its not already been a legitimate illness which the person doesnt need any help with-as they get help already (eg nothing terrible like aids or sickle cell anemia)|||NO|||ask him if he smokes crack..if not he is a vegan (what else a cause these symptoms??) and now there is more crack for you... if he says yes he is not a vegan and tell him you were kidding..
-Red|||Severe weight loss, yellow eyes, bad temper, total loss of humor, empty soul, uncontrolable desire to goose-step down main street wearing a PETA tee-shirt.|||I would have thought veganism was a hatred of vegans.|||Throw him to the hounds!!!!!!!!!|||There is only real test and cure. Offer him a ham. If he says no he is a vegan. Cure him by force feeding him the ham.
Problem solved.
In extreme cases replace the ham with black pudding or haggis.|||You cant save him now he is lost to humanity
Shotgun the dam zombie and do him a favour|||most vegans start out as vegetarians, which is a sociably acceptable practice. after a while, they start to become politically activistically minded due to certain vitamin and amino acid deficiencies. then they start to spout off "facts" about how they are saving the environment the rest of us are destroying. this leads to a superiority complex. after this, they become almost depraved in their superiority and continually berate the rest of society in our personal choice of food that we eat. its very sad to see this happen to someone who originally had good intentions of trying to achieve a healthy diet.
The whole point of raw veganism is to eat natural food and steer clear of supplements and fake processed garbage that meat-eaters, vegetarians and vegans eat.
Raw vegans have glowing, flawless skin, bright eyes, shiny hair and a beautiful aura. Are you jealous?|||I agree with your assessment of raw food diets, but I don't like the preachiness, either.|||Christine isn't a 'preachy' vegan, s/hes's not a vegan at all. S/he is a troll who aims to make vegans look silly; anyone who's been around this forum for more than a year or two will recognise and remember him/her.
No coincidence that 'Ashley' has re-emerged at the same time.
Puzzled as to why we've been directed to the websites of those two women - they look nice, they look well, but nobody could mistake them for younger than late 40s. Most of my friends in their 50s don't look any older than they do (except my friends aren't usually so heavily made up), and they include vegans, vegetarians and meat-eaters|||Hahaha I love this. According to omnivores, vegans will die without supplements because you absolutely need meat or animal products to stay alive. According to the vegans who are alive and well, they don't need to take supplements and are perfectly healthy. I know who I'm going to believe, thats for sure.|||So if they have growing flawless skin, bright eyes, shiny hair and a beautiful aura, I can conclude you are not a raw vegan.
My wife is carded all the time and she's in her early 30's. She is what others would call a "pescetarian".|||I agree that the raw vegan diet is very healthy for you. I'm just in the habit of taking supplements to make sure I have a well balanced vegan diet. I want to try this diet so bad, just to uneducated to make a wise decision.|||I always get that comment- really glowing fresh skin. Clear eyes. ANd I don't eat the Morningstar stuff, except once a year or so. I save it for a midnight feast one time.|||Who said raw veganism is unnatural?
With whom are you arguing?
And Ani Phyo, who is indeed cute and young and healthy looking, is 43.|||Do you mean - 'if raw veganism is natural?' in the question? I was too confused to answer this...|||Do you often find preaching at people converts them to the wonders of a raw vegan diet?
Cause it ain't workin' here.|||Yeah, I agree. Raw veganism can be healthy for you or anyone.|||I love preachy vegans.
i have been a vegatarian for about 2 years, and i am considering veganism, I allready only drink soy milk (apposed to moo juice) the only animal products i eat are eggs and cheese. Would i have a hard time converting? what foods could i not eat anymore? I eat tofu, soy beans and Boca Brand meat (soy)products for protein.
Can Yal give me some tips and advise?|||Read labels. There are lots of hidden animal ingredients in prepared foods (whey is freakin' everywhere.) You'll have an easier time being vegan if you're not relying on convenience foods; my diet is based far more on whole foods now than it was when I was vegetarian.
Read books. "Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina is the bible of vegan nutrition. There's also a "Complete Idiot's Guide to Vegan Living" and it's pretty good because it covers a broad spectrum of info, including the foods (ingredients) that you'll want to avoid.
Start cooking. If you're like me, you're probably worried that you'll miss cheese (I put off veganism for a long time based on my perceived need for cheese.) But if you're trying lots of new recipes you will not even notice the things you might otherwise miss. "Vegan with a Vengeance" by Isa Chandra Moskowitz and "Veganomicon" by Isa and Terry Hope Romero are both awesome. Any of the Sarah Kramer books are good as well.
Good luck. I'm 6 months in and I love being vegan. I can't imagine going back to milk and eggs any more than I can imagine going back to meat.
Good lord, I just went back and read the other answers. The only people who think you're giving up SO MUCH are the ones who have never tried it. Like ice cream? Turtle Mountain Purely Decadent is incredible - even my omnivore boyfriend likes it as much as dairy ice cream. Like sour cream? Tofutti Better Than Sour Cream tastes just like it. Like cookies? Pies? Cupcakes? Make 'em yourself. There are a million decadent recipes for vegan goodies, with the emphasis on GOOD. I made chocolate chocolate chip cookies (Veganomicon recipe) with dried blackberries instead of walnuts and they were probably the best cookies I've ever had. I brought a full batch to work and they were snapped up before lunch time. You won't be missing out.
You'll find a world of information, recipes, support and food porn (not what it sounds like!) in the forums here: http://www.theppk.com|||DON'T EAT MEAT. SEE your Doctor for a diet......|||Lets see, you could not eat eggs, milk, icecream, types of yogurt, sour cream, and alot of types of cakes, and pies. Also I would find it hard to convert. Hope this helps. -Nick|||I would read up on this if I were you. People do not realize how much dairy is used in foods. You would be giving up pasta, as noodles are made out of eggs and flour, and have you tried soy ice cream? I love soy milk, but in my ice cream? Not so much. I'm pretty sure bread is made with dairy as well.
Essentially vegans are stuck with vegetables, fruit and soy products only. Trust me, you would be giving up A LOT. I'm not trying to talk you out of it. I'm a vegetarian as well, although I am not a very strict one. I still eat fish and seafood, so I am more of a semi-veg. I chose the thing that I could live with, which was semi, as it allows me the fish and seafood that I love. But being a vegan would be too much for me as it eliminates so many things. Most carbs are made with some type of dairy. There are books where you can read up on this. I would go to a book store, get a nice soy latte or something, pull up a chair and peruse the "becoming Vegan" books.|||I'm vegan, and I find it easy - most supermarkets now stock soy yoghurts, ice-creams, and cheeses (make sure to check the ingredients, some still have lactose, while others are vegan but taste rubbery).
As for eggs, substitute with silken tofu for things like french toast, scrambled eggs, et cetera, while there are loads of egg replacements - just consult a good vegan website or cookbook.|||eat lots and lots of meat. it helps.
I've been going to college for psychology for a couple years now, but it's becoming more and more apparent that I don't want to be a psychologist anymore. My biggest passion is animals and veganism. Are there any career paths that center around this??|||A career counselour at your college may be able to help point you you in the right direction or you can go to the websites of peta.com, aspca.org, husus.org, wwf.org. They may have job openings.
Edit: I thought of another one, oceana.org|||There are a bazillion career paths that could be focused on the animals.
A few that weren't already mentioned:
A farm animal vet (you could work at a place like Farm Sanctuary..be valuable as an expert witness in trials..you could (and it would be VERY difficult, but you could) work for the USDA (until you lost your job) and be a whistleblower of sorts)..
Animal groups have websites...they need IT people to create them and keep them going...larger ones have databases/networks/etc
Undercover investigators are always needed...you could train as an undercover person..again - VERY difficult...but VERY needed..
Lawyer
Filmmaker/documentaries
Doctor - whether you focus on nutrition not, any book/study/paper you write becomes far more reputable with an MD in your name. (Think Dr.Neal Barnard)
Veganic farmer
Communications/speech writer/grant writer/marketing/campaign coordinator/writer/politician/news reporter/journalist/lobbyist
Graphic design/ad maker/website design
Quite honestly, I think the question is not 'what is an animal-centric career path?' but instead is 'what is a career path I'm interested in and how can I use that career to help the animals?'
If you want more ideas, these women are always inspirational: http://www.ourhenhouse.org/ (read info on the site or just listen to the podcasts)|||You could be a vegetarian/vegan chef, personal chef, caterer, etc.
You could be a nutritionist specializing in vegetarianism and veganism.
You could go into business and try to open a vegetarian/vegan grocery store.|||vegan chef/bakery owner
nutritionist/dietician
work for or start a non-profit or shelter, rescue sanctuary, etc.
vegan fashion line (shoes, purses...)
start a vegan fast food chain & kick McDonald's @ss :)|||hey try dietician or vegan chef or freelance writer
or just stick to psychology|||Become an organic farmer
I've heard and read omnivores say that they cant be vegan or vegetarian due to a certain disease or food allergy...
Is there any disease or food allergy/allergies (some have more than one) that makes vegetarianism or veganism impossible?
I understand it may make it more difficult, but is there any disease or food allergy that makes it downright impossible that they absolutely must have meat and/or dairy?|||No. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. An allergy or disease that forces them to eat meat, fish, eggs & dairy? Allergies usually prevent someone from eating a certain thing, not force the person to include specific foods in their diets.
As for diseases, a certain disease may mean you need to consume more, for example, calcium, because of a bone disease. However, as long as you can get your calcium from non-dairy sources, and still get the amounts you need (depending on your disease), you will be perfectly fine.
People who say they have an allergy or disease that forces them to eat fish, meat, dairy or eggs, are either terribly naive, simply not willing to put in the effort, or bullsh!tting you.
For every vitamin and nutrient, there is more than one source to obtain it from. Sure, it might not be the most apetizing, splendid, tasteful thing, but it is a source of a certain vitamin or nutrient. If veganism really means that much to someone, I think you'd put in the effort and remember your moral reasons for going vegan when you have to eat the distateful food.
Bottom line? You're never stuck with simply getting your ___x___ from source y.|||no anyone can be vegan with a blanced diet
I've heard veganism discussed as if it was fundamentally a diet, but other people seem to talk about it as if it was an ethical position. Which is it really? Thanks :)|||Here are a few quotes which I think answer this question well.
"With the rising popularity of avoiding animal products in one’s diet for health and environmental benefits, the word “vegan” is also rising in popularity. Unfortunately, this increasing popularity of the term is also generating confusion over its meaning.
The term was coined by Donald Watson in 1944 to refer to the avoidance of animal products not only in one’s diet, but in all aspects of one’s life, including wool, leather, and fur.
While the term “vegan” will likely continue to be misused or redefined by the standards of its original meaning, the term “veganism” will likely always refer to the ethical position. The “-ism” suffix is almost always a strong indicator that one is referring to a paradigm, philosophy, theory, way of living, or way of viewing the world.
While there may be some confusion over the word “vegan,” “veganism” is definitely an ethical position." -- Dan Cudahy
Professor Gary L. Francione (a vegan and distinguished law professor and leading philosopher of animal rights theory at Rutgers, New Jersey US) -- "Veganism is not about giving anything up or losing anything; it is about gaining the peace within yourself that comes from embracing nonviolence and refusing to participate in the exploitation of the vulnerable" "Veganism is not a "sacrifice." It is a joy." "You cannot live a nonviolent life as long as you are consuming violence. Please consider going vegan"
"Please, when you discuss veganism, avoid talking about "compassion" and "abuse." That just encourages people to think that the problem is how we treat animals and that we need to be more "humane." That is is the approach of the "happy" exploitation new welfarist groups. The issue is use and not treatment. It's a matter of justice and not "compassion."
"Veganism is not merely a matter of diet; it is a moral and political commitment to abolition on the individual level and extends not only to matters of food, but to clothing and other products, and to other personal actions and choices. It is important to recognize that just as an abolitionist with respect to human slavery cannot continue to be a slaveowner, an abolitionist with respect to animal slavery cannot continue to consume or use animal flesh or animal products."
"Ethical veganism is a powerful way of saying “no” to injustice" -- Prof. Gary L. Francione
Here is another quote which explains veganism:
"[I] am a vegan because after much learning and thought about the issue, I have come to see enslaving, exploiting, or intentionally killing an animal as morally equivalent to enslaving, exploiting, or intentionally killing a child. The only difference is one is socially acceptable and the other is socially unacceptable." --Dan Cudahy (author of "Unpopular Vegan Essays" blog)
If you want to find out cutting edge information about veganism, get a hold of a copy of Prof. Francione's book "The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?" I've posted a link to a description of the book amongst the many other excellent links in the section below. Prof. Francione is on Twitter and Facebook so you could ask him yourself :-) Best wishes|||Vegan-ism is fundamentally unethical and a biological farce. To be a vegan is to deny who and what you are as a human being. It is a biological fact that human beings are omnivores.
Omnivores have the capability of being able to eat and digest, meat, fish, fruit and veg almost everything. When all forms of technology and great civilisations are taken away, a human is nothing more than a hunter gatherer.
There is absolutely nothing ethical about being a vegan. It is an affront to human nature.
Obviously, what I've said has been unpopular. I was expecting the reaction that my answer received, so I'll elaborate exactly what I mean.
In the developing countries there are millions of people dying from starvation. What we in the developing world take for granted, shopping at supermarkets, having a take away, those starving millions in the developing world can only dream about.
No, I'm sorry, but a vegan is only a vegan, because far too much is granted in the developed and democratic nations. If any vegetarian, or vegan was faced with starvation and destitution, then I can guarantee, that meat eating wouldn't be a problem for even the most staunchest of vegans.|||Veganism is an ethical position. Anyone who is eating a diet that is devoid of animal products for health or personal preference is eating a plant-based diet; they are not vegans themselves. To be vegan, in addition to animal-based foods, you must avoid animal entertainment (zoos, rodeos, circuses, etc.), not wear clothes made with animal products, avoid products tested on animals, and support adopting companion animals (never buying or breeding). Usually someone just going on a diet is not going to include all those aspects of veganism into their life, making them not vegan. A better term for someone who does this is strict vegetarian.|||Its an ethical position.
Veganism means not regarding other sentient individuals as a ressource for human use and pleasure. Nonhuman animals exist just as little for human purposes as women exist for men.
The vegan position is also based on the scientific fact that humans don't need animal products for their health. And since humans have the capacity to choose what they eat and wear (in contrast to other animals), they are able to choose a way of life that doesn't enslave, torment and kill other indiviuals who have the same interest in living a long and non-compulsory life as humans do.|||Its an ethical position. If you think about it, we make the ethical choice not to kill and eat certain things everyday. We don't kill and eat dogs, cats, horses, etc. because in our society that would be wrong. It is no more ethical to kill and eat chickens, pigs and cows just because society thinks its ok.
But veganism is more than the animals we eat. Being vegan means not exploiting animals in any way, for food, clothing, accessories, entertainment, experimentation, or any other reason.|||As mentioned before, the word "vegan" was coined by Donald Watson who defined the term as a moral position. Growing up in a rural, farm-centric area, Donald Watson soon learned that vegetarianism did not address the problems associated with all animal use.
For example, a cow needs to be pregnant to give milk and this results in the calf being separated from the mother. Male calves become veal, Female calves becomes part of the next generation of dairy cows which is necessary as the majority of dairy cows are killed at a quarter of their possible lifespan because after that point in their life, they are less able to physically take the stress of constant pregnancy (just like a human woman).
And so, 1944, Donald Watson created the term "vegan" to refer to a person who refrained from using animal products as much as practically possible (the word practical should not be confused with convenience). Since this time, the word has often been morphed to suit the "users" needs (ex.: veganist, veganish, veg*n) and thereby completely overlooking those the word and the movement is meant to help.
If someone "eats like a vegan" or is "almost vegan", I would say they eat a plant-based diet because the difference between "almost vegan" and vegan is the difference between someone who only abuses people once a week and someone who never does.|||Veganism is an ethical position. It is the least we owe to other animals, to not exploit them for our own ends. No matter how "well," how "nicely," we treat them, using other animals is unjust. Veganism recognizes that we do not need animal products to survive, and that continuing to use animals for our own purposes causes them unnecessary harm. Veganism reaches beyond just diet in so many ways. Veganism as an ethical position recognizes that all forms of discrimination (racism, sexism, heterosexism, ableism, speciesism, and so on) utilize an irrelevant criterion to deny an individual equal moral consideration. Veganism insists that we take the rights of all animals (humans included) seriously, and it is a political statement regarding our commitment to nonviolence and abolition of animal use.|||VEGANISM IS AN ETHICAL POSITION! IT'S A PHILOSOPHY! THE PHILOSOPHY OF ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVISM! Whoever chooses to be a Vegan for dieting reasons it's a moron. Welcome though to our ranks even if you are totally misguided. Vegetarianism it's a dieting thing. Vegetarians don't necessarily support AR activism. But VEGANISM IS ALL ABOUT ABOLITIONIST AND ANTI SPECIST ACTIVISM.|||Veganism is not merely a matter of diet!!
It is a MORAL and political commitment to ABOLITION on the individual level and extends not only to matters of food, but to clothing and other products, and to other personal actions and choices. It is important to recognize that just as an abolitionist with respect to human slavery cannot continue to be a slaveowner, an abolitionist with respect to animal slavery cannot continue to consume or use animal flesh or animal products.
ANIMALS have a RIGHT NOT TO BE USED AS PROPERTY!!
Going VEGAN is the right thing to do! Reject all kinds of VIOLENCE!!
If you agree that we must not use animals as properties! Please, GO VEGAN!|||This depends on each individual but for those that claim veganism (versus being an herbivore) they live on a moral/ethical position, generally for the rights/liberation of non-human animals and the environment. Those that simply practice eating an herbivorous diet simply focus on the diet.|||Ethical position. It is morally unacceptable to exploit other sentient creatures for human purposes. It is also completely unnecessary, since humans do not need to consume or otherwise use non-human animals or their products in order to survive.|||Veganism an ethical position and the minimum that we owe to other sentient beings.|||It depends on the individual.
But for most, its moral/ethical|||It can be either or both depending on the beliefs and motivations of the individual.|||ethical position.|||An ethical position that effects our diet (among other things)
yes, veganism...not just vegetarianism!
i'm considering going vegan and am wondering what the advantages are in comparison to the disadvantages
thanks for any info!|||I went Vegan and gave it a good 6 months, hope to give it another go.
Like other posters said, you just have to be sure to balance everything out.
And stay commited :)
And as far as eating out, it'll get a little more difficult but happycow.net is a great resource for that.
I take a multivitamin everyday so you may want to start making a habit of that just until you settle in to meals and getting the right nutrients.
And read!
It's best to educate yourself, it really pays off. There are some great websites out there as well as books, "Becoming Vegan" really helped me out a lot.
I think the accessibility for vegan cuisine has sky rocketed!
truly you have the option of going into your grocery store and getting deli sliced tofu for your sandwiches. You also have access to some truly great sites and books of food.
The Post Punk Kitchen and Sarah Kramer being two of my favorites.
You can do it!|||No Problem.
Just have fun and stay committed.
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|||The major advantage for me was in carrying my sentiments with regard to vegetarianism to their logical conclusion, which was a completely plant based diet. Those very things that compelled me to eat less meat initially were the very same things that moved me in the direction of veganism.
The biggest disadvantage is in limiting the number of restaurants that I will eat at. While there are many great vegetarian restaurants everywhere, there are fewer vegan ones (unless you live in NYC, for example). Happycow.net has become a great resource for locating vegan restaurants and I couldn't travel without it. Not being able to eat out so easily is a double edged sword, however, in that it encourages me to prepare more of my own food which is in itself healthier.
So to sum up, the greatest advantage is with personal satisfaction in being honest with your convictions and the greatest disadvantage is that you will become better at cooking.|||There are lots of websites where you can find comparative information about veganism, vegetarianism and similar diets. Check out these links:
lowcalories.blogspot.com
intuitivefred888.blogspot.com
indyhumes.blogspot.com
gscookingblog.blogspot.com
thephilosophycafe.blogspot.com
lifeisbeautym.blogspot.com
my-healthy-eating.blogspot.com
adwin-kianhui.blogspot.com
meadvilleveggie.blogspot.com
slashmaraud.blogspot.com
foodminds.blogspot.com
callendamornen.blogspot.com
kin-jay.blogspot.com
mercurior.blogspot.com
masanobutaniguchi.blogspot.com|||advantages - better health, more energy, less animals have to die for fashion and food
disadvantages - difficulty finding enough varieties of vegan foods
try to find vegan websites or vegan restaurants and talk to them about where you can find these foods. sometimes it can be spendy...which is stupid because everything is natural and not loaded with preservatives and addititves.|||Advantages:
1. You're living a healthy lifestyle.
2. you're living a natural lifestyle.
3. you're not eating blood, pus, sh*t, and steroids.
4. your money isn't funding the torture if sentient beings.
Disadvantages:
?
Maybe enduring the hilarious comments of the uneducated, but you can always laugh about it later.
Please remember that veganism is a lifestyle, not just what you eat. Vegans don鈥檛 wear leather, fur, or wool, buy products from companies that conduct non-required animal toxicity tests:
http://www.caringconsumer.com/pdfs/compa鈥?/a>
Or frequent zoos, rodeos, circuses, or other places where animals are held in captivity or forced to perform.
Good luck!|||From my experience vegans in modern society are social misfits with some psychological problems which are fed by their "veganism". Amongst them is obsessive-compulsivity. They simply don't lead integrated lives of physical, intellectual, emotional and spiritual well-being and maturity. I avoid them like the plague.
You might want to Google "Flexitarian Diets" or simply, "flexitarian".|||Advantages:
You get to act like you're morally superior.
Disadvantages:
You will be a social outcast.
You will most likely be thin, sickly and pasty looking.
You will have a very small range of foods you can eat.
You should check out a flexetarian vegan diet before you commit to a life of suffering.|||The only way to be moral is to be a vegan. I would consider converting immediately, so that you are no longer immoral.|||advantages:
-healthier (if you balance your diet the right way)
- saves animal labor (to produce animal products)
Disadvantages:
-could be unhealthy (if you dont balance your diet enough)
hope i helped
I want to become vegan, fo rhealth reasons. i just want to be healthier overall and i am really tired of eating fatty processed food and i think that veganism is just a better way to go for me.
i am 14, so i cant go out and buy my own food, but i am already vegetarian.
what are some steps or easy foods i can make for breakast lunch and dinner?|||alrighty, so, pretty much you have to get good at reading labels. if it has anything that has to do with animals, don't eat it.
some foods you're going to have to adopt are;
soy milk (i love silk, especially the chocolate kind.)
vegan cream cheese (the tofutti brand is really good.)
soy sour cream
soy ice cream, or just stick to sherbets and sorbets
tofu (egg replacement, good for breakfast.)
and brand name egg replacers
good stores to find most of these items are trader joes and lassens.
good luck!!|||Are you already a vegetarian? If not, cut out red meat first, a few weeks later cut out chicken. Then cut out fish.
Stick to this for a while until you get used to it.
If you already are a veggie, what I did was I stopped drinking straight milk and stopped using it in cooking. Then, I did the same thing to eggs. After that, I cut out Milk and eggs from anything i ate and after a while of that eliminated all other animal products from my diet. If you make the transformation too quickly, you will get sick because of the darastic change in your diet. I have many friends that this happened to them and they went back to eating meat, just make sure your doing it nice and gradually and make sure you are getting an acceptable amount of calcium, protein, and iron.|||You are right, veganism is a lot healthier! =)
It took me a few tries to actually transition 100% to the vegan diet (but who knows, it might work for you the first time!). That was because I missed my cheese and my willpower was not that strong. Sometimes it is better for you to do things gradually, but it all depends on what you personally think you are capable of. I have been vegan for a year and a half now (my third attempt; before this, I was slowly eliminating my consumption of cheese, from once a week to once a month, to none at all, etc.)
You should look at these sites; they have good recipes:
http://www.theppk.com/recipes/
http://www.veganlunchbox.com/recipes.htm鈥?/a>
Here is the best cookbook you can possibly get (in my opinion):
http://www.amazon.com/Vegan-Vengeance-De鈥?/a>
Here are some of the easiest things to make...
breakfast: peanut butter & banana sandwiches,
oatmeal with cinnamon and nuts/fruit (instead of sugar or honey, try Agave nectar; it's a natural sweetener),
muffins,
whole wheat toast with Smart Balance (I usually use Earth Balance, but since you said you can't go out to get your own, Smart Balance is available at Walmart in the butter section; it is vegan ONLY if it is in the tub that is green; be sure to read the ingredients and check the label; it will say 'vegan' and also try to get the nonhydrogenated kind),
scrambled tofu (my favorite) =D
Lunch: My favorite is just any kind of sandwiches with lots of veggies (I like to put Tofurkey, lettuce, tomatoes, avocados, green bell peppers, and Vegenaise, the Follow Your Heart brand, on mine; mix it up a little), brown rice with vegetables (stir fry or steamed, with seasonings, whatever you like)
Pita sandwiches ;]
Dinner: I've got to run; I'm sorry! :( please check out the links I sent you, and you can email me whenever you'd like. I'll come back and edit later; or you could look at my answers to other vegan/vegetarian questions; I'm sure I'll be repeating myself. tehee
I want to write about veganism; will I be able to find substantial information? I need an interview, and I have contacted a someone who writes vegan cookbooks and they wrote back. Also, any research paper tips would be great! Thank you!|||Of course you can, you just need to research. If you have an interview and such a great resource, you probably will not have a problem.
Start with the history of veganism, the reasons for being vegan, etc.
Have fun!|||Yes, with size 74 font double spaced.
One sentence would take up 3 pages!!!
I feel strongly about veganism and I wish there was a religion that said you must be vegan or atleast vegetarian, it would be awesome and I would join it since I would have alot in common with the adherents. But most of the religions don't make veganism or vegetarianism mandatory. I've looked into Buddhism and I like it, but not sure I want to follow it yet.|||I'm Jain, and being a vegetarian is pretty intimately tied with us. (And we're lacto-veg, people, not vegan...I have no idea who started this rumor, but it's not true. Have any idea how much research I had to do to prove that you can be safe as a vegan to my mom? She kept insisting that milk is necessary, and she's the granddaughter of a very well respected Jain authority. She'd be OK with not eating root veggies, but no milk was OMG, YOU'RE GONNA DIE YOUNG with her).
It's also very closely tied to Seventh Day Adventists (who are also vegetarian, but not vegan...well, some are).
But like most religions, just because it's associated/encouraged doesn't mean that people will follow it. I know lots of Jews who eat pork, it's the same thing, but change pork to all animals.
Edited to add: you shouldn't join a religion JUST because it says you should be vegetarian, it should co-incide with your beliefs. There's lots of Christian vegetarian groups out there (if your beliefs don't co-incide with the Adventists), Muslims who are vegetarian, etc. (http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Q鈥?/a> ) will tell you what religion coincides with your true beliefs. I came out as Theraveda Buddhist...close enough.|||I don't think many people that I know actually believe the stuff, it's more about community than actual religion. I'm curious, though, what score did you get? Report Abuse
|||Why do you want someone else to FORCE you to be veg*n (shorthand for vegan or vegetarian)? No one can FORCE you to not eat meat. That's up to you. Besides, there's no religion or law or rule is not broken at one time or another.
Perhaps you should look into the 7th Day Adventists? They promote the vegetarian diet. They believe God told one of their founders that the vegetarian diet was his chosen diet. But, even at that, not all Adventists are vegetarian. Buddha did NOT teach his followers to be vegetarian. Many buddhist do eat meat....maybe not beef, but they eat some meat. Probably the most respected holy man in the world, the Dalai Lama, eats meat.|||No, i am a vegan and accept that the majority of the world will always eat meat.You cant force your views on others that only makes them resent vegans more.We can only live by good example and offer advice and share our views on request. I t would be great if everyone stopped eating meat but that will never happen.There are over one billion vegetarians in the world and the number is growing, we must continue to set a good example but just as religion can never be forced on someone neither can veganism.|||No I do not think that you should join a religion just because of your diet.
I have been curious about raw veganism for a while and have been trying to read about it. I have only been doing internet searches and have not found what I have been looking for. Are there books out there written by qualified individuals that discuss benefits/health issues of raw veganism? If so, can you tell me title/authors?|||Good books discussing the benefits of raw food:
Living on Live Food by Alissa Cohen
Living Cuisine by Renee Loux Underkoffler
12 Steps to Raw Foods by Victoria Boutenko
Raw by Juliano Brotman
The best books to start with are "Raw Food Made Easy" by Jennifer Cornbleet, and "The Complete Book of Raw Food" by Lori Baird and Julie Rodwell. Both have good recipes that don't require specialty equipment, and "The Complete Book of Raw Food" is packed with information and resources.
Some good websites:
http://www.rawfoods.com/
http://sunfood.com/Catalog/Default.aspx
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/
http://www.rawfoodchat.com/forums/index.鈥?/a>
http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/
http://goneraw.com/
http://www.welikeitraw.com/rawfood|||theres a book that i want to get called 801010 by dr. doug graham.
it talks about a specific raw "diet" though, not raw veganism in general. but it would still be a cool thing to look at. theres a lot of philosophy about man's natural state and what is naturally eaten. he explains why he thinks that a person should consume tons of calories through mostly fruits, with some vegetables, and little amounts of fat.
if you want to look further into this lifestyle, take a look at harley, aka durian rider, he's the one that got me considering the raw vegan life style in the first place
http://www.youtube.com/user/durianriders|||Yes, you can go on PubMed and type raw vegan or other keywords, and you will get peer reviewed studies.
Also, read books by doctors such as Gabriel Cousens, an Ivy League MD who has been raw vegan for about 30 years.
Read interviews by athletes who eat mostly raw food:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article鈥?/a>|||Yes I have seen a couple books at borders. I have been a vegan for two years now. I eat a lot of raw veggies but I would never do an only raw diet.
I have been vegetarian for over a year, and once I move out of my mother's house in two months I am planning on becoming a vegan. I was wondering what books you guys like that are about veganism. I am looking for 3 main things:
1) Recipes/Meal plans and some way to make sure I am getting all my nutrients
2) Motivation!
3) A list of foods that are and aren't vegan.|||1) It's a rude tone and since you are already going vegan, don't know if you need the convincing, but Skinny ***** has a lot of information broken down into a very readable way.
2) Anything by Dreena Burton. Everyday Vegan has great recipes and good nutritional advice. And as you get more into cooking, then Vive La Vegan is great too. Although I find that her recipes are a little too much for me to handle on weekday nights.
3) If you go to Borders or Barnes and Nobles you can find several different books that are vegan meals in under 30 minutes, 5 ingredient vegan recipes, student vegan cookbooks which focus on smaller portions instead of family sizes and are simple and budget friendly, and even slowcooker vegan books. There is even a book called Conveniently Vegan which has small recipes which use canned or frozen foods to make vegan recipes which are even more simple.
Pretty much all vegan cookbooks have nutritional breakdowns in them.
4) Diet for a Small Planet and The CHina Study are great motivational books to make you want to eat an all plantbased diet because of the health and eclological causes. And there is a book called Living Among Meateaters that is kind of a lifestyle guide (how to deal with being vegan in an unvegan society), which can provide some motivation too. Plus it has some recipes as well.|||Skinny ***** In The Kitchen Cookbook
Meatless Meals For Working People
The Face On Your Plate
One Can Make A Difference
Striking At The Roots'
And sooo many more! Congrats on your lifestyle! Check out the PETA catalouge, they have some great ones.|||The complete idiot's guide to vegan living ~ Beverly Lynn Bennett
The complete idiot's guide to vegan cooking ~ Beverly Lynn Bennett & Ray Sammartano
How it all vegan! ~ Tanya Barnard & Sarah Kramer#
Skinny b*tch ~ Rory Freedman & Kim Barnouin
Skinny b*tch in the kitch ~ Rory Freedman & Kim Barnouin#
Vegan with a vengeance ~ Isa Chandra Moskowitz#
Veganomicon ~ Isa Chandra Moskowitz & Terry Hope Romero
Vegan cupcakes take over the world ~ Isa Chandra Moskowitz & Terry Hope Romero
Now vegan ~ Lynda Stoner
The tropical vegan kitchen ~ Donna Klein#
The Mediterranean vegan kitchen ~ Donna Klein
Vegan Italiano ~ Donna Klein
# I have these, and am most likely going to buy most of the others on the list sometime.|||An above comment isn't true, why would vegans have to take tons of supplements if they are eating the right foods? Fortified cereals, soy milks, and granola bars provide tons of nutrients. If you are a smart vegan you won't have to take supplements religiously.
The Veganomicon cookbook is the best vegan cookbook I've come across. I've never made something from that book that I didn't like!
For meal plans, I always try to eat a grain item with all my meals鈥攂e it whole wheat pasta, bread, brown rice, etc. I try to stay away from faux meats because they are loaded with yucky stuff. Beans are always good and you can make bean loaves/patties and freeze them for later use.
Check for foods containing carmine or cochineal extract. It's a red food coloring but it comes from bugs so it is not vegan. I know I've seen it in SoBe vitamin water.|||I bought this book, but I never even finished it so I do'nt really know how good it is
http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Vegan-Com鈥?/a>
Most of the research I have done is just searching through google and reading things on websites.
My favorite place for vegan recipes is www.vegweb.com and How It All Vegan is the only vegan cook book I own (
http://www.amazon.com/How-All-Vegan-Irre鈥?/a> )There are some great recipes and plus there is a lot of information about vegan foods, subsitutes and everything.
As far as vegan and non vegan foods go, just make sure you constantly are reading the labels of the foods you are buying/eating and the best way to avoid bad foods is to cook a lot of meals yourself!
I noticed that not only does wikipedia have them marked like that, but most people consider veganism a lifestyle choice and vegetarianism just a dietary choice.
Is there any distinction, or is this a matter of diction?|||From what I've learned here, vegans are vegetarians whose views about human-animal relationship involve more than the former eating (or not eating) the latter "Vegetarian" is a simple word description of someone who does not eat meat (including poultry and fish/seafood) and slaughter by products such as gelatin etc. A vegan is a lifestyle that includes vegetarianism PLUS some other principles involving, as I've said, the human-animal relationship. For example, a butcher who kills and processes hundreds of animals a day is still a vegetarian if he/she does not eat any of his own product. A vegan (probably) won't even consider working in a slaughterhouse much less kill the animals her/himself. Personal reasons, moral, health, religion etc, as to why people are vegetarians, are not part of that description.|||Because that's what they are. Vegetarianism only governs what you eat, veganism is an attempt to remove all animal products from your life.
Anonymous, vegans do use wool, it's ok as long as it doesn't harm the animal, which sheering doesn't.|||vegetarianism is when you just don't eat meat
true veganism has people not eat or use and animal products, cutting out eggs, milk, leather, wool, etc.|||Vegans try to use absolutely no animal products of any kind. While vegetarians just won't eat meat. Example, some vegetarians eat eggs, but a vegan wouldn't because it comes from and would of been an animal.|||Because many vegetarians actually have no ethical concern for the animals, they just consider it to be a healthier diet choice.
While veganism, by definition, does include just diet, but includes boycotting the use of fur, leather, wool, silk, attending circuses or zoos, which cage animals for public entertainment, and vegans avoid the use of animal tested products, or products that include animal ingredients.
To say you have a vegan diet, can be easily accurate, but to say you are straight up vegan would mean adhering to a strict lifestyle of "least harm possible."
Someone who eats vegan but wears leather is not vegan.
Make sense?|||That's an interesting question! Vegans do not eat, wear, or use any animal products, so that's why it's considered a lifestyle choice. Vegetarians can choose to wear leather, eat honey and eggs, etc. I'm almost vegan, but I do wear leather shoes because I have some foot "issues" and where I live, it's difficult to find comfortable non-leather shoes. =(|||Vegetarians avoid meat and slaughter by products.
Vegans avoid meat, animal by products of any kind, and they exclude anything containing animal parts or by products in cosmetics,cleaning supplies, personal hygiene products,clothing etc.The concept behind veganism is to reduce the individuals contribution to animal exploitation.They avoid products tested on animals as well.|||no it's just what your chosen to be really because anyone dislike things like for example I am a veggi so I don't like meat ,fish,eggs,ect|||it is just words to get in a funk|||That's what some people think. But the vegetarianism of India is based on the thousands of years old concept of Ahimsa (non-violence). Gandhi's successful campaign for India's independence was based on Ahimsa, for example. So the British relinquished control of India because of a diet? Did anyone ever do anything like that with the Atkins or South Beach diets?
Veganism may try to take it a step further, but it seems demeaning to me to dismiss vegetarianism as "just a diet choice."|||As a vegetarian, I would say that if you just dont eat meat that that is a diet, but if you wont have animal derived clothing that is a lifestyle. BUt thats only my opinion.
I don't think veganism is a word, but is there another word for it?
And do vegans eat meat substitutes like veggie burgers?|||I looked at your other questions and can see no connection - either with eggs or your friend Lucy!
Of course veganism is a word.|||Veganism is indeed a word, even if the Y!A spellcheck thinks it isn't.
Some vegans do eat meat substitutes, while others don't. I prefer to call them analogues, while others might say mock whatever. Many people who go vegan grew up eating meat but stopped because of the cruelty involved and the environmental degradation caused by meat production. Let's just say many vegans adopt their lifestyle for ethical reasons. Analogues such as veggie burgers and veggie sausage provide a similar taste and texture without the cruelty, not to mention less fat and cholesterol.|||Veganism is most certainly a word. Some vegans eat meat substitutes and it turns others off because it can be so much like the real thing.
I eat meat substitutes, but rarely, as they aren't that good for you being so processed and all. However, it's not the real thing and that's what matters.|||Veganism = Word. Adding "ism" to just about anything is fine.
As a treat or something, that's fine, but unless I find a really good substitute that isn't made with a bunch of preservatives and additives, I won't make it part of my diet. |||lol! of course it's a word. i do eat "meat substitutes" occasionally, it's a bit odd taht having quit meat you'd eat something designed to look like it. but the fact is many of these fake meats are delicious, convenient and quite healthy too so why the hell not?|||i wouldn't call them meat substitutes. I would call them vegetables with a meat-like texture. I don't think vegans are looking to substitute meat, but might look for foods that have a similar texture.|||I am not a vegan but I have a friend that is and doesn't like to see meat at all even if is "soy,mock,fake,veggie" one. |||Yes, as long as it doesn't contain animal by-products.
There are a lot of brands that make specifically vegan replacement meats.|||Of course veganism is a word.
Some vegans eat meat substitutes (the vegan ones anyway, many have milk and/or eggs) and some do not.|||Just like vegetarianism is a word, so is veganism. Some vegans eat meat substitutes and some don't. |||Yep, but you have to look out for milk and eggs in them|||Yes, yes.|||i think veganism is a word .. and no i don't eat meat substitutes
I know veganism is very healthy, and I know many good aspects about it. What are some possible unhealthy things caused by veganism? I'd really like to know. Thanks!|||B12 deficiency. Eating fortified foods (like soymilks) or taking a supplement are the only reliable ways to get enough B12. This is the main concern for vegans.
A study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found no significant difference in anemia levels between vegetarians and meat-eaters. If a vegan has an unhealthy diet and eats few foods containing iron, anemia would be a concern.
Aside from B12, vegans can get all of the necessary vitamins and nutrients by eating fruits, veggies, beans, nuts, and grains. Hope this helps!|||If people know what they are doing there should not be any.
If people don't know what they are doing they end up with nutrient deficiencies or just being malnorised in general.
You need to listen to your body. I don't believe that all people can thrive on a vegan diet. Especialy people from races that have adapted to eat a mostly meat diet.|||Vitamin defiency which can be reduced or eliminated with dietary / vitamin supplements ...... many people who eliminate foods out of their diet fail to take in consideration nutritional needs and do not take anything to compensate.......hope this helps..good luck|||I haven't heard of many.
I read that a few people experienced some thinning of the hair.
And check out this question that popped up on here:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;鈥?/a>
I constantly ponder the idea of vegetarianism/veganism. I recently read about a guy who is an incredibly fit athlete who dons a vegan diet. One would imagine a healthy, natural diet could be attained through food without the need for supplements. Is it that veganism isn't natural or is it that vitamin B12 isn't that important? Or option C. I don't know what that is yet. Input appreciated. Thanks.|||You are aware of the fact that cows get their B-12 from their diets, right? Cows are vegetarian. It comes from bacteria in dirt. (This is why grass-fed cows contain more B-12 than do grain-fed cows.) The same thing happens with primates and a handful of other animals out there, whose flesh is rich in B-12 but do not eat a lot of meat, or any dairy (after infancy).
The option is C: meat and dairy are not the only "natural" sources of vitamin B 12. I also would dispute your claim that a diet is "unnatural" based on a single nutrient and the source from which it is derived.|||you get it through fortified foods like cereal, soy products, or like stated above, seaweed.
"There is controversy over this, of course. Many people say that the only foods which contain Vitamin B12 are animal-derived foods. This also is untrue. No foods naturally contain Vitamin B12 -- neither animal or plant foods. Vitamin B12 is a microbe -- a bacteria -- which is produced by microorganisms. Vitamin B12 is the only vitamin that contains a trace element -- cobalt -- which give this vitamin its chemical name, cobalamin, which is at the center of its molecular structure. Humans and all vertebrates require cobalt, although it is assimilated only in the form of Vitamin B12. Strangely enough, though, if you are in the habit of eating unwashed veggies, these may contain small amounts of B12, as it is produced by microbes found in soil.
If you want to take Vitamin B12, be sure you know how much you need for your body size and don't overdose on it. Get more information from a homeopath or from your medical doctor.
However, it is possible to get Vitamin B12 from vegetarian sources, such as yeast and seaweed. It was thought that these foods contain a type of B12 that cannot be absorbed by the human body. However, new research indicates that humans can, in fact, absorb the types of cobalamin found in these foods.
Recent research has also found out that the absorption of B12 from dairy and meat is much poorer than it was thought to be. As a result, a large part of the population is suffering from a B12 deficiency, even though they include plenty of animal-based foods in their diet."
so just because you eat meat doesn't mean you are filled with B12 yourself ;)|||It's not natural as in it's not our natural diet. Humans evolved eating meat - we were eating meat long before we became modern homo sapiens. Before that we were a kind of ape but even apes eat insects and chimps hunt occasionally.
However you can live perfectly healthily on a vegan diet. Before we starting farming grains and beans/lentils it wasnt really possible for humans to be vegetarian. 50% of people on a raw vegan diet (they only eat raw veg, fruit, nuts, seeds, coconuts, seaweed) develp health problems, children usually fail to thrive. There are exceptions who do well but they *are* the exceptions.
However peope who replace the meat with cooked grains and pulses are extremely healthy. Grains and beans are not foods we would naturally eat, but so what? The aim of veganism is not to eat naturally, it is to minimise the suffering of animals.
Some people do eat it for health reasons. The reason for that is that cooking meat, eggs and dairy creates very harmful toxins which are bad for you. So cooked plant foods are much healthier than cooked meat. Our natural diet was raw meat, which doesnt contain the toxins.
B12 is extremely important. You do need to take B12 tablets. But thats no big deal is it?
If you want to eat man's natural diet, eat raw meat, mainly organ meat, raw fish including heads, and raw eggs, but I think you would find a cooked vegan diet much more appetising.|||where do u think the animals get the B12 from? its not just naturally in there bodies ..they get it from the plants and dirt that they eat. before people got anal about washing there fruits and vegetables they got plenty of B12 right there. its made by bacteria, and ppl say they get it only from animals bc the animals eat the grass and dirt. flax seed also is a great source of B12, and omega fatty acids, and is totally vegan. but B12 is definitly naturaly from a vegan source, it just gets into the animals.|||B12 is very important for animals, but only bacteria can produce it. We used to take in a lot of germs with dirt and stuff - ehm, cecotrope reingestion - back in the days, but our food is all sterile now.
Still I think I don't wanna go back, I prefer to use artificial supplements. :)|||If you are a vegan/vegetarian from birth your body naturally creates its own B12 because it has never come meat. But if you are an omnivore or changed to vegan/vegetarian midway through life, your body will stop naturally creating its own B12 because it has become too reliant on meat. That's why some people need to take B12 injections.|||Synthetic additives to various vegan foods
Check http://www.vegsoc.org/info/vegan-nutriti鈥?/a>
Vitamin B12 is very important - lack leads to pernicious anaemia which I have. I need B12 injection every 3 months|||animals are not the only source of b12. You can get b12 from fermented soya products, seaweeds, yeast, and algae such as spirulina. Also, you don't need much b12, only 1.5 mcg per day.|||We don't go to the bathroom where we eat anymore. If you eat vegetables grown in your own waste (much like fertilizer), they will have enough B12. Seriously.|||RedStar has a nutritional yeast that contains naturally occurring b12.|||Seaweed has B12 in it.|||B12 is important. You need it. You can get nerve and brain damage without it.
B12 is produced by bacteria. Back before common food sanitary practices were used, you could easily get enough B12 by eating plants. The bacteria would be in the soil, get on the plant, you eat the plant, you get your B12.
These days, because we really clean our foods, B12 isn't found on plants anymore. From a food perspective, it's only still found inside animals, which is why you can get it in meat/dairy products. It doesn't mean that veganism isn't natural, just that our industrialized society has gotten rid of B12 on plants.
You don't need supplements to get B12. First off, humans are pretty efficient when it comes to B12. We can actually store B12 in our bodies over time and then partially recycle it. So if you've been eating meat/animal products your whole life and decide at age 18 to become a vegan, you've got a lot of B12 stored up. Even if you didn't eat any B12 at all, you wouldn't have problems immediately. If you didn't consume any for 10 years, then you'd probably have problems. You also only need very small amounts of B12 (in the scheme of things).
For a consistent source of B12 you can get it by eating Red Star Nutritional Yeast (it's been added to it), fortified cereals (Kashi Heart Healthy brands have it), and some plant milks have it (again, fortified). You just have to check for it. Some people take supplements. I'm not a fan of vitamins/supplements, personally. I'd rather get everything I need from my food.
Lastly, vegans are typically not the people who have B12 deficiencies. It typically happens to people where:
1.) Something is competing for your B12 (like parasites);
2.) Something is destroying your B12 (like cyanide in cigarettes); or
3.) Something is preventing the proper absorption of B12 (like inadequate production of intrinsic factor)
Hope that helps!
**Edit: for those who say you can get it from seaweed, the FDA has stated that it is not a consistent enough source to be counting on for your B12 intake.
This is a serious question, no mocking please.
I'm just interested in how veganism can relate to religion.|||Interesting question.
I'm a Catholic. And a vegan. In the Book of Genesis we start out as vegetarians. God gives us all the vegetation we care to consume.
The animals are our companions at that point.
Then we fall into sin. God's got to chastise us. Along comes Noah and the flood. At that point food becomes scarce so God tells Noah to go ahead and eat the animals.
But it comes with a price. The animals will now hate and fear us.
Fast forward to the Book of Isaiah. Isaiah prophesies (it's pronounced prophesEE not prophesEYE) about the New Heaven and New Earth. Where the Lion will lie down with the Lamb. We will no longer eat meat. Not even those "designed" to be carnivores.
Why wait? Let's show God we can live his way NOW!
As a Franciscan, the general constitutions of my order state that I must live sustainably. That I must live in such a way so as NOT to destroy my planet or exploit God's creation or his creatures in any way.
I think we're about 50/50 as to Franciscans who do and don't equate that to veganism or vegetarianism.
I'm with you on the milk thing. A dairy cow's life expectancy is 1/3 what it would normally be if she were not drained of her life every single day. If she did not repeatedly have her offspring torn away from her and murdered. That's why I had to give up milk and cheese.|||I really like that response. Im not christian, but its still awesome! Report Abuse
|||Jainism promotes veganism.|||I'M NOT RELIGIOUS AT ALL, BUT CHOOSE TO LET OTHER LIVING BEINGS LIVE. I DO EAT CHEESE, MILK, EGGS, SO I GUESS I'M NOT AN EXTREMIST ABOUT IT, TO BE HONEST. I WAS SITTING ONE NIGHT EATING A PIZZA, WITH THE WORKS. I WAS WATCHING THE TUBE AND SAW AN ARTICLE ON THE NEWS WHERE OTHER COUNTRIES EAT DOGS, I THOUGHT HOW AWFUL ARE THESE PEOPLE CRAZY? THEN I THOUGHT WELL IN INDIA, THEY WOULDN'T EAT A HAMBURGER IF THEY HAD TO TAKE A BULLET IF THEY DIDN'T.
I FEEL ANIMALS HAVE SOULS ALSO, I DON'T FEEL WE ARE EXCEPTIONAL IN THAT FACT. WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE ARE SUPREME, BUT I'VE SEEN DOGS CRY, AND I'VE SEEN THEM HAPPY, I'VE SEEN THEM SAD, AND I'VE SEEN THE CONFUSED, I'VE ALSO SEEN THEM LONELY. THEY HAVE FEELINGS, ISN'T THAT THE SAME WITH ALL THE ANIMALS WE WITH???
IN BIBLICAL TERMS ONLY HUMANS GO TO HEAVEN, BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, IN WHICH I QUESTION RELIGION, I'D RATHER GO TO HELL. IT WOULDN'T BE HEAVEN TO ME WITHOUT ANIMALS, INCLUDING THE HUMAN SPECIES...........|||Buddhism and Hinduism I suppose...
for me, I'm a Christian, so it doesn't really interfere even though the bible says it's okay to eat fish.|||none it it
lipa|||i don't know man, i guess i just beleive in karma|||Veganism is basically abotu being kind and having compassion,so I also try and practice that in my everyday life,not just my diet.But I don't follow any religion or go to a church.|||One of the main things that attracted me to Buddhism
a couple years ago was the respect for all life. I became
a vegan before becoming a Buddhist's but I think they
go hand in hand. In the past I found religions morally
objectionable. This one works for me.
It is nice to see several Christians like Max Marie
and Jessica who do not share the dominionists
attitudes that are very common among believers
that I encounter.|||In Judaism, Kashrut Laws have strict regulations on certain types of meat you can and can't eat, so being vegan or vegetarian just eliminates any confusion or stress in abiding by these laws.|||IN HIDUISM KILLING OF ANIMAL IS PROHIBITED
why veganism? why???
is says on the bible that animals are supposed to be eaten. the BIBLE!!!
mind you its not a bad a thing. all the more animals for me!!!|||it also says not to judge others but you obviously skipped that part :)|||Genesis 1:29 states clearly that when God made the world he made it vegan, and gave us the green vegetables to eat as "meat." Now, that doesn't just mean vegetables, as I'm sure you'd protest, but it means that all non-animal products are our food. This was only changed after The Great Flood. Report Abuse
|||How many people read the Bible? Honestly, the Bible states that people are supposed to respect their mothers and father, stay faithful, not hold anything more important than God, etc. So... we're all going to hell, and are all full of sin. Oh well....
No offense, but I'd rather "rebel against the Bible" by saving an animal, than to commit adultery!
P.S. I don't believe I ever read anywhere in the Bible where it comments that we're created to eat meat?|||well, think about it. before man sinned, there was no need to eat animals, or use their skins for clothing. in either Genesis 1:29 or Genesis 1:19, it says that God made all the plants for us to eat. then, man sinned, and God had to cast them out of the garden of eden. they had to have clothes, so God killed an animal for its skin. so therefore. . .meat-eating is a product of sin, if you really think about it. besides, animals were here before we were.|||Average Joe, humans are omnivores - we have the OPTION of eating meat.
Life is too precious to take unnecessarily.|||Yes, perhaps animals are supposed to be eaten, but none the less, they are god's creatures. They should be treated with respect. I am a vegetarian because many people treat their animals inhumanely. It's just my way to protest.|||it was a misprint at the publishers|||ok, but did it EVER cross your mind that not all vegans are Christian!? its a personal choice. i would never force my beliefs on anybody, but i guess you took the whole "free speech" liberty and ran with it. each to their own i guess.... whatever, but now you know where i stand on this issue|||Why should a vegan who is not christian listen to what the bible says?
The bible is not fact. So it doesn't prove anything.
Most people are vegans because they don't believe animals should be exploited for our use. And because they hate the way animals are killed.|||God also says to treat your body as a temple, not pollute it with McDonald's and other such garbage. God also says not to eat shellfish and pork but look at how many people love that stuff. God says a lot of things that no one listens to. Veganism is a lot closer to the ideal than the way most Americans live today. We're supposed to be taking care of God's creation and look how we raise zombie animals in factory farms and waste so much.|||The question here does imply by the word 'bible' being in capital letters that the questioner does believe in it, but so what. I am sick of people that think they are all open minded and non judgemental saying stuff like 'I'm free do to what I want, we don't all believe in the bible, who are you to tell me what I should believe...' it goes on like that really. Well, I think to those people get a life. Ok, you want to debate and discuss stuff but you are on this world wide website, so you are obviously going to get different people. And maybe they think the same of you! This guy was asking a question that's what we're here for after all!
I am vegan, I do not have an eating problem, I am overweight and like not to be a plastic size 8 barbie doll! Being vegan can mean you eat more calories. Just because we don't eat meat eggs or dairy or anything from animals, doesn't mean we only eat vegetables. There are so many vegan cakes and stuff, people just think we live on carrots, not true, I can eat pretty much everything everyone else does, veggie sausage, burgers, ham slices, cream cheese, mince, chocolate....
The reason that some vegans take it really extreme and serious (like myself) is because the only way to have any kind of say in this world is not by your vote (which won't even count if they don't want it to anyway) it's by what you buy. The more people buy something the more people sell it. It's not rocket science. Although some can think 'oh if I don't buy this or that it's not gonna make a difference' well it does when everyone that thinks that does it. It also creates and promotes the types of ethical industries that are around today and that would not be if people hadn't objected in some kind of way, made a stand and said, NO.
That's how things get changed in this world, protest not voting! Look back in history, it's all in the people. If enough people make a stand and come together and persivere it can make things happen! We have equal rights, human rights, woman can work etc...|||http://meat.org|||No,it doesn't,it says that they are allowed to be eaten,but not until AFTER the flood,it was allowed as part of man's fallen humanity.The only time G-D told us what to eat was in the garden of eden.In the Garden of Eden,G-d's perfect world,they were vegetarian,because nothing died.|||Veganism yes the bible states they should be eaten, but I cant hack it because I imagine them running around. YUK|||if its not OK 2 kill human then why is it OK 2 kill animals?, because we have guns???? no its wrong period.|||not everyone believes in the bible. most vegans are such because of their feelings toward animals, usually how animals are treated|||because MEAT is pumped with all sorts of **** that the meat industry wont even tell us about, because if they did, nobody would eat it. thats why!|||Answer me this? What are Christianity and the Bible supposed to be built on? Love, kindness, peace, and understanding, that's what. Guess what? Your Bible also says "Thou shalt not kill" and it doesn't specify only people or mankind. It says that life is precious and should be revered as a gift from God. Again, no specification. You are a hypocrit if you believe that animals are lower than people just because you have an ipod, live in a house instead of a field, and know how to read a book full of fantasy stories. What is the difference between you and a cow other than you are a little more technologically adept? Nothing. Wake up! You are an animal, too. All animals have nerves. They feel pain. When they are slowly bleeding to death, I'll bet you anything that they are afraid just like you were at one time when you were little and didn't understand what was happening.
As to why people becomes vegetarians or vegans: It's our business! Some people do because of the health factors. Others, like me, do it because we don't believe that there is any difference between slaughtering "livestock" and murdering a person. People need to learn that it is our right to choose. I make a point of not pushing my beliefs on people who don't want to know because I realize that it's their personal choice. (I'm not pushing you now, I'm giving you my opinion which you asked for by asking this question.) It's your choice to eat meat and I won't tell you that you're wrong for doing that even though I believe it. What did you choose to wear this morning? Do you like to have coffee in the morning? Won't you consider that your perogative and a part of the life that you have chosen to lead? Well, it's my CHOICE to be what I am and that is someone who doesn't condone mass killing because "it's written in the Bible" or because intolerant people like you tell me that I'm going against God or garbage like that. Learn how to respect people and their wishes and you will be doing more service to the Christian belief than shoveling a bunch of idiotic drivel in their faces.|||Shame on you!
Using God's name to propel a debate over a subject you feel defensive about.
I love thy neighbour, i love all creatures great and small. I choose not to have animals murdered for my gain as I am evolved and intelligent enough not to have to behave in a cave man like manner. Although stating that there is much evidence to prove cave men were vegetarian.
Take a moment to imagine having to murder a dog or cat or your own pet. Skinning them, gutting them, draining the blood, i shaln't go on as I do not wish to cause others offense but you get the idea, i doubt you could do it. It's oh so easy to go down your local supermarket and buy a frozen slice of a dead mashed and chopped up cow's stomach and lable it mince, bet you dont even think about the way they have been treated or slaughtered when you eat it.
Yet you probably call yourself a christian! A christian doesn't pose such blasphemous and unGodly questions just to provoke a response. You are a sick man!|||ummm no actually the bible DOES NOT SAY "eat animals"
Adam and eve did not eat meat and then she ate the apple and that's when the sin all started animals are NOT meant to be eaten you mango!!!|||Yes but the Bible is full of all sorts of outdated old codswallop like "never wear clothing made from two yarns", I bet you don't follow that one to the letter!
In light of this, I shall probably go to hell; my top is 80% viscose and 20% elastane (God forbid!), and I must surely be punished for the sheer wickedness of wearing jeans that are 70% cotton and 30% polyester! Oh please spare me from such sins!
Sorry but if you're going to use the pathetic "but the Bible says......" excuse then you have to take the rough with the smooth missy. You either argue with the whole Bible in all its ficticious splendour and with all the nonsense bits left in, or not a single word of it.|||Try this one-............|||Another troll.What makes you think we are all Christians or Jews or Muslims?I'm not and so the Bible means nothing to me.
And can someone please explain to me why Christians eat pork and shellfish and other none-Kosher food?Nowhere in the New Testament does it say the ancient Jewish Kosher laws don't need to be followed anymore!|||You are a liar and making that up. What passage sais that you have to kill and torment living things?
Besides, if the bible says that it's right to murder living things, then the bible is evil, like you. I think with my own head, and I wouldn't eat my pets, so why eat another animal just because I don't know them?
Factory farming is treating animals so bad and feeding them such cr*p that no wonder we have mad cow's disease.
Buy a cows heart, you don't have one.|||I am an ovolactovegetarian which means I eat eggs and milk products but not meat. I simply prefer that, it's nothing to do with animal rights or anything. And I am healthy.My dietary choices are in no way an attack on your lifestyle and I would thank you to accord others the same respect.
However, I do find veganism (rejecting all animal products, not only in food, but clothing and any other form) to be extreme.
Veganism seems often to be either a cover for eating disorders (many vegans have a history of anorexia or bulimia) or the need for a "cause." I frequent a very good recipe website called "Vegweb" which also has a discussion forum. There is a thread there about eating disorders in which many admitted having this problem. I think it's easier to say "I don't eat animal products" than it is to admit "I have trouble eating anything at all."
One of the articles recommended on this site (taken from another site) discusses "purity". In this sense, veganism seems to me to be a sort of "replacement" for religion, or a creed, if you will. Many of the vegans I know reject mainstream religions of any kind, and yet their lives revolve around animal rights, cruelty, PETA-type campaigns etc. In a a very real sense, their veganism has become their religion.
I would never be a vegan, because it seems extreme, expensive and unhealthy to me. I enjoy the feedback on this particular website, but I also notice that they encourage non-vegan vegetarians to "make the transition"--almost like "going to the next level" in a religion.
We all have reasons for what we do or don't eat, and Paul himself says in Romans 14 that we should not judge others by what they eat, NOR should we "make them stumble" by forcing them to eat something they don't want. He also says that meat-eaters are no better nor any worse than those who eat only vegetables:
14:3 "The man who eats everything ****must not look down on him who does not****, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand."
So go ahead and eat meat if that's your choice. Mine is to eat vegetables, milk products and eggs. It's a choice.|||hey elliot. heres your meat being prepared for you. take a look please. im sure you will enjoy it
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?鈥?/a>|||I fully agree with Barrowman. Also, are you aware that plants respond to pain?
My husband was a total joker and got his sister who is a very strict vegan to the stage where she almost wouldn't eat when she was a teenager! All he did was show her the relevant scientific papers. I can still hear my very formidable mother-in-law screaming his name out when he started up at the table!|||It is time we took a stand against the unnecessary and wanton killing and cooking of vegetables as food. What have runner beans ever done to you? Were you ever frightened by broccoli? Did a potato cause you a fright? No well just consider their feelings. Onions cry you know and beetroots bleed. The poor carrot being stripped of its skin feels pain and what about grated garlic? Eat meat and leave vegetables alone.|||Humans are neither carnivores or herbivores (ie vegans), they are omnivores, therefore, we are meant to eat both, but much less meat than is commonly consumed in America.|||I say eat what ever the hell you want ,i grow so tired of people telling me what i should be eating|||I agree... if God didn't want us to eat animals, then He wouldn't have made them out of meat.
EDIT... man, you guys can not take a joke... and a note to Greensleigh... I am not saying this about you because you don't talk about how you treat people... but, even though I think the health and welfare of animals are important, I have a hard time with vegans who have so much to say about the plight of animals in this world without discussing the plight of humans in this world. Personally, if my actions could either save 1000 animals OR 1 person, I would have to choose the person.|||Agreed! I know that some people are upset with eating animals, but I never saw the reasoning behind that.
I'm an aspiring vegan, but my parents keep saying that a vegan diet isn't healthy. How can I convince them that I'd be able to do it?
They're always sayin that I'm a vegetarian who doesn't eat any vegetables, so wouldn't be able to cope with veganism. I like most fruits though and beans and lentils. I haven't tried tofu, but managed to convince my mum to get me soya milk today.
Also, what sort of foods could I eat?|||A healthy vegan diet includes a range of foods- fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, wholegrains, beans, dairy free milks, soy products such as tofu, and meat alternatives.
You've made a great start with swapping dairy milk for soy milk. Don't be afraid of trying out new foods. It's great that you like lentils, these provide a lot of protein. Soy milk provides all 8 amino acids so is a great source of protein also. See? You have already made some positive steps to achieving your goal.
Show your mother the facts- do online research and prove to her that a balanced vegan diet is nutritionally adequate for ALL ages. Have a range of foods, and you'll be ok.|||The only way to truly convince someone that you CAN be a healthy vegan is to BE a healthy vegan.
:-)|||All of God's creatures goes well next to the mashed potatoes and veggies.|||Remember when you cook vegetables you boil them alive.
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