veganism: I decided to become a vegan, but my mom told me that a friend of hers (who I know, and seems to be very smart) told her that every vegan she's ever known has gotten stomach cancer, and that veganism isn't healthy. This is the opposite of what I have researched. Does anyone know anything about this?|||That's called Full-o-crap. High fiber diets are actually proven to reduce GI cancer not promote it.|||The causes of cancer, including stomach cancer, are not known. You can only talk about risk factors and risk factors are not the same as causes. For example, never having had children is a recognised risk factor for breast cancer, but it doesn't cause breast cancer and the vast majority of women who never have children don't get breast cancer. In the same way, insurance companies regard 'being male' as a risk factor for having a car crash, but being male doesn't actually cause car crashes. As with most other cancers, the main risk factor for stomach cancer is getting older; 90% of those diagnosed with it are over 55. Lack of meat consumption or lack of dairy consumption are not risk factors for stomach cancer, or for any other type of cancer - no reputable cancer organisation, charity or website lists them as risk factors. A diet high in salty, pickled and preserved foods increases the risk of stomach cancer. A large ongoing research study called EPIC has found a significantly increased risk of stomach cancer in people who eat a lot of preserved meat, such as bacon, sausages and ham. The study found that this risk was greatest in people infected with Helicobacter pylori bacteria. Preserved meats contain chemicals called nitrosamines, which are known to cause cancer in animals. Some studies show a higher risk of stomach cancer in people with high levels of nitrosamines in their diet. So... a diet high in certain kinds of meat MAY increase your risk of stomach cancer; a diet that excludes meat entirely does not increase your risk. And there's no scientific evidence that soya increases the risk of any cancer, including oestrogen dependant cancers. There is no evidence that soya causes, prevents or in any way affects the course of cancer.|||It does seem a bit strange that veganism could cause stomach cancer, because all veganism is is NOT eating animal products. Meat eaters eat vegetables all the time and they get stomach cancer too. Actually, *not eating meat* puts less stress on the stomach, and, so, should *reduce* stomach cancer. Of course, it seems that everything produces cancer if it us taken in large enough amounts (what they give lab rats is much much more than humans would ever take in) I have also heard that water causes cancer. We know that breathing causes cancer (people who have never smoked get lung cancer) Meanwhile, meat eating has been definitively linked to colon cancer. Pick your poison|||I've always heard the opposite to be true. I did some searching and found some information supporting the opposite (that a diet high in animal products is a risk factor for stomach cancer and vegetarianism/veganism is a recommended preventative measure: From Yale: "We found that many animal-based nutrients found in foods of animal origin are strongly associated with risk of developing these types of cancers and we were able to identify nutrients that presumably would be protective," said Mayne. "We also found that regular users of vitamin C supplements were at significantly lower risk of stomach cancer." In a separate analysis of these data, the research team found that obesity is strongly linked with risk of these cancers. "The increase in the prevalence of obesity in the United States certainly contributes to the time trends," said Mayne. "Our results suggest that prevention strategies for these cancers should emphasize increased consumption of plant foods, decreased consumption of foods of animal origin with the possible exception of dairy products, and control of obesity."|||I've never in my life heard of such a thing. Veganism is what you make of it--meaning, if you get all of the nutrition you need by balancing your foods and taking supplements, you'll be just as healthy (or healthier) than meat-eaters. I'm not sure where your mom's friend got her facts, but they seem to be from pretty flawed thinking..|||my mom is a nurse and is very active in the health department. shes knows about me very vege and she said that you can have a higher chance of getting Alzheimer's if you don't get Your protein. the stomach cancer IS fake though. so don't worry if you want to be vegan then be vegan because you will be fine.|||if done right veganism can be very healthy. but i am not a vegetarian to be "healthier" it's not about me, it's about the lives i'm saving!|||The only way I could see this is from too much tofu or because the vegan hasn't gotten enough nutrients that ward off cancer. Perticulary B12 which is made only in animals.|||Really? Do you REALLY think that you will get cancer if you eat fruits and vegetables instead of bacon? REALLY? Be logical.|||Oh YaY! Another one of the "vegan causes __________" questions! So your mom said that her friend said that supposedly every vegan she has ever known has had stomach cancer. Exactly how many vegans has she known? Were they eating a healthy vegan diet based around fruits, veggies, nuts, grains, etc? Or were they eating sugared cereals and processed crap and calling it a diet? How long were they vegan before they found out about their stomach cancer? Imagine this: All the millions of vegans on the planet (like myself and boyfriend) who are vegans and have been so for years that don't have stomach cancer. Has your moms friend ever known a meat eater who had heart disease? And yet they kept piling away at ribs, steak, and pork! And to the girl whos mother said that vegetarianism causes Alzhiemers, tell your mom I said go back to school. First of all, she's a nurse not a real doctor. This is why people call nurses quacks because when she says ignorant things like this, that's exactly what she is! The reason that vegetarians have to be concerned with Alzheimers is not due to protein but it is due to B12 because B12 grows on bacteria. And what has a great source of bacteria? Rotting meat. You can tell your mother that and you can also tell her that 99% of vegans have no problem getting enough protein as protein is found in fruits and veggies as well as in soy products, etc. As for the girl who asked this, if you are planning to make veganism your lifestyle instead of just a fad, you are going to have a tough time if you listen to all the garbage that people throw at you about veganism. Good luck and use YOUR head and ignore the crap that ignorant people say. They haven't spent one day as a vegan so what the heck do they know?? And about the B12, B12 is fortified in most vegan foods and is naturally found in things like nutritional yeast, so getting enough B12 isn't a problem either.|||She probably said that because typically vegans consume a lot of soy to get enough protein. Soy greatly increases your risk of cancer. Here are a couple of facts for you: Myth: Soy estrogens (isoflavones) are good for you. Truth: Soy isoflavones are phyto-endocrine disrupters. At dietary levels, they can prevent ovulation and stimulate the growth of cancer cells. Eating as little as 30 grams (about 4 tablespoons) of soy per day can result in hypothyroidism with symptoms of lethargy, constipation, weight gain and fatigue. Myth: Soy foods are safe and beneficial for women to use in their postmenopausal years. Truth: Soy foods can stimulate the growth of estrogen-dependent tumors and cause thyroid problems. Low thyroid function is associated with difficulties in menopause. Consumption of unfermented soy products is probably not such a good idea. Unfermented soy contains high levels of a number of compounds that can: block the absorption of calcium, magnesium, iron and zinc; stunt growth; and alter hormone levels, disrupting menstruation, lowering testosterone, increasing the risk of breast cancer, and causing thyroid and prostate complications. Unfermented soy includes things like soy milk, soy burgers, soy hot dogs, and tofu. Here's the link that provides lots of info about soy: http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/basics/soy鈥?/a>

Tuesday, February 21, 2012

I decided to become a vegan, but my mom told me that a friend of hers (who I know, and seems to be very smart) told her that every vegan she's ever known has gotten stomach cancer, and that veganism isn't healthy. This is the opposite of what I have researched. Does anyone know anything about this?|||That's called Full-o-crap. High fiber diets are actually proven to reduce GI cancer not promote it.|||The causes of cancer, including stomach cancer, are not known. You can only talk about risk factors and risk factors are not the same as causes. For example, never having had children is a recognised risk factor for breast cancer, but it doesn't cause breast cancer and the vast majority of women who never have children don't get breast cancer.

In the same way, insurance companies regard 'being male' as a risk factor for having a car crash, but being male doesn't actually cause car crashes.

As with most other cancers, the main risk factor for stomach cancer is getting older; 90% of those diagnosed with it are over 55.

Lack of meat consumption or lack of dairy consumption are not risk factors for stomach cancer, or for any other type of cancer - no reputable cancer organisation, charity or website lists them as risk factors.

A diet high in salty, pickled and preserved foods increases the risk of stomach cancer. A large ongoing research study called EPIC has found a significantly increased risk of stomach cancer in people who eat a lot of preserved meat, such as bacon, sausages and ham. The study found that this risk was greatest in people infected with Helicobacter pylori bacteria. Preserved meats contain chemicals called nitrosamines, which are known to cause cancer in animals. Some studies show a higher risk of stomach cancer in people with high levels of nitrosamines in their diet.

So... a diet high in certain kinds of meat MAY increase your risk of stomach cancer; a diet that excludes meat entirely does not increase your risk.

And there's no scientific evidence that soya increases the risk of any cancer, including oestrogen dependant cancers. There is no evidence that soya causes, prevents or in any way affects the course of cancer.|||It does seem a bit strange that veganism could cause stomach cancer, because all veganism is is NOT eating animal products.
Meat eaters eat vegetables all the time and they get stomach cancer too.
Actually, not eating meat puts less stress on the stomach, and, so, should reduce stomach cancer.
Of course, it seems that everything produces cancer if it us taken in large enough amounts (what they give lab rats is much much more than humans would ever take in)
I have also heard that water causes cancer. We know that breathing causes cancer (people who have never smoked get lung cancer)
Meanwhile, meat eating has been definitively linked to colon cancer.
Pick your poison|||I've always heard the opposite to be true. I did some searching and found some information supporting the opposite (that a diet high in animal products is a risk factor for stomach cancer and vegetarianism/veganism is a recommended preventative measure:

From Yale: "We found that many animal-based nutrients found in foods of animal origin are strongly associated with risk of developing these types of cancers and we were able to identify nutrients that presumably would be protective," said Mayne. "We also found that regular users of vitamin C supplements were at significantly lower risk of stomach cancer."

In a separate analysis of these data, the research team found that obesity is strongly linked with risk of these cancers. "The increase in the prevalence of obesity in the United States certainly contributes to the time trends," said Mayne. "Our results suggest that prevention strategies for these cancers should emphasize increased consumption of plant foods, decreased consumption of foods of animal origin with the possible exception of dairy products, and control of obesity."|||I've never in my life heard of such a thing. Veganism is what you make of it--meaning, if you get all of the nutrition you need by balancing your foods and taking supplements, you'll be just as healthy (or healthier) than meat-eaters. I'm not sure where your mom's friend got her facts, but they seem to be from pretty flawed thinking..|||my mom is a nurse and is very active in the health department. shes knows about me very vege and she said that you can have a higher chance of getting Alzheimer's if you don't get Your protein. the stomach cancer IS fake though. so don't worry if you want to be vegan then be vegan because you will be fine.|||if done right veganism can be very healthy.
but i am not a vegetarian to be "healthier" it's not about me, it's about the lives i'm saving!|||The only way I could see this is from too much tofu or because the vegan hasn't gotten enough nutrients that ward off cancer. Perticulary B12 which is made only in animals.|||Really? Do you REALLY think that you will get cancer if you eat fruits and vegetables instead of bacon? REALLY? Be logical.|||Oh YaY! Another one of the "vegan causes __________" questions!

So your mom said that her friend said that supposedly every vegan she has ever known has had stomach cancer. Exactly how many vegans has she known? Were they eating a healthy vegan diet based around fruits, veggies, nuts, grains, etc? Or were they eating sugared cereals and processed crap and calling it a diet? How long were they vegan before they found out about their stomach cancer?

Imagine this: All the millions of vegans on the planet (like myself and boyfriend) who are vegans and have been so for years that don't have stomach cancer. Has your moms friend ever known a meat eater who had heart disease? And yet they kept piling away at ribs, steak, and pork!

And to the girl whos mother said that vegetarianism causes Alzhiemers, tell your mom I said go back to school. First of all, she's a nurse not a real doctor. This is why people call nurses quacks because when she says ignorant things like this, that's exactly what she is!

The reason that vegetarians have to be concerned with Alzheimers is not due to protein but it is due to B12 because B12 grows on bacteria. And what has a great source of bacteria? Rotting meat. You can tell your mother that and you can also tell her that 99% of vegans have no problem getting enough protein as protein is found in fruits and veggies as well as in soy products, etc.

As for the girl who asked this, if you are planning to make veganism your lifestyle instead of just a fad, you are going to have a tough time if you listen to all the garbage that people throw at you about veganism. Good luck and use YOUR head and ignore the crap that ignorant people say. They haven't spent one day as a vegan so what the heck do they know??

And about the B12, B12 is fortified in most vegan foods and is naturally found in things like nutritional yeast, so getting enough B12 isn't a problem either.|||She probably said that because typically vegans consume a lot of soy to get enough protein. Soy greatly increases your risk of cancer.

Here are a couple of facts for you:
Myth: Soy estrogens (isoflavones) are good for you.
Truth: Soy isoflavones are phyto-endocrine disrupters. At dietary levels, they can prevent ovulation and stimulate the growth of cancer cells. Eating as little as 30 grams (about 4 tablespoons) of soy per day can result in hypothyroidism with symptoms of lethargy, constipation, weight gain and fatigue.

Myth: Soy foods are safe and beneficial for women to use in their postmenopausal years.
Truth: Soy foods can stimulate the growth of estrogen-dependent tumors and cause thyroid problems. Low thyroid function is associated with difficulties in menopause.

Consumption of unfermented soy products is probably not such a good idea. Unfermented soy contains high levels of a number of compounds that can: block the absorption of calcium, magnesium, iron and zinc; stunt growth; and alter hormone levels, disrupting menstruation, lowering testosterone, increasing the risk of breast cancer, and causing thyroid and prostate complications. Unfermented soy includes things like soy milk, soy burgers, soy hot dogs, and tofu.

Here's the link that provides lots of info about soy:
http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/basics/soy鈥?/a>

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