Friday, February 3, 2012

the Negate views towards the legalization of Marijuana and Hemp?

Typically, the ones that oppose one or the other have never tried it and are usually the least knowledgable about it.

What do you think? Are they similar?|||I think I get it. People tend to have preconceived notions of vegans and 'potheads'. They do not take the time to learn about or understand the people involved or the activity. I know many people who have very productive lives who smoke weed on occasion at night after the day is done. They smoke, watch some tv, and go to bed. Remove the weed and they would still be doing the same thing. Instead of drinking, which is a disgusting habit, they smoke. I see no difference except it is much less damaging than alcohol is. As for it being a gateway drug, research shows that alcohol is the true gateway. No drug addict ever started without first drinking. Drinking comes first, then weed, then possibly other things. Me, I smoked weed when I was young but never did anything else even though I had easy access to the harder stuff. I don't like alcohol, I'd much rather see weed legalized and alcohol banned. Having miseducation and preconceived notions is going to keep weed and veganism taboo. My father is one of those. He refuses to see past the idea that veganism is 'adverse to society' and 'too extreme'. He does not see that it is simply a calmer, more simple lifestyle with many benefits. Well, we'll see how his opinion changes as his triglycerides and cholesterol are way higher than they should be.|||Your belief has some bearing but your approach doesn't, ie what you are saying is ''people who are ignorant about something that is considered taboo/frowned upon society, will generally oppose other things that society deems taboo without full understanding''

That is correct in my opinion & usually found in many areas. People who don't practice logic & reasoning thoroughly will be ignorant, but the reasons you provide aren't strong enough yet to provide a trend.
The problem society has with veganism is in short they think it to be unhealthy & a very strict-limiting diet that has flaws in its ethics. Not that the people themselves are bad, they think they just are a bit extremist (not true, but for societies view its what i tend to find others believe)
The problem society has with cannabis/hemp is basically again ignorance but there is plenty of negative examples to use. One must apply logic to these negative examples that ''people who use weed are lazy/stoners/weak in school'' generally the illegal classification of the drug is what draws people too it & especially those who before that were heading down a bad path, the scapegoat or straw man is that cannabis causes people to be lazy/academic idiots.

Plenty more examples can be drawn up like this to counter-argue, i personally think that if alcohol was illegal as it was in the states nearly a century ago. That it'd be the ''gateway'' drug, i potentially see cannabis becoming a stronger staple in the household over the next few decades with global warming & to tackle deforestation for agriculture & producing wood-based products, which cannabis is able to fill.
One can only speculate as such surveys though haven't been done, therefore our hypothesis are just that, thoughts with no fact or evidence to back up|||No. People who oppose decriminalisation of drugs do so because the legalisation of drugs increases the harm they cause due to the increase in usage. People who oppose reducing the amount of meat consumed in our societies either stand to lose money or are unwilling to give up their own lifestyle for the benefit of others. There is no comparison.|||No. I've never smoked marijuana and fully support legalizing it. So your simplistic excuses are wrong.

My problem with veg*ns is not what they eat. That's their right and responsibility. My problem with them is that they lie. They lie about how easy the diet is. They lie about how animals are abused in meat production. They lie about the health benefits.

I think the fact that there are three times as many ex-vegetarians in the US as active vegetarians supports my arguments.|||I have found that most people that smoke weed as it is now are for the most part losers. The seem to be lazy, unproductive people. And yes have have used weed in my youth, just a few times. I really so no reason to make this drug legal for the lazy, unproductive part of society. And really see no correlation between this and people that frown upon vegans.|||The whole "dont knock it til you tried it" argument can be compared with any two taboos you want, yes. I wouldnt discredit the arguments of those who have not tried it though because it may just be a preference and not good ol fashion ignorance for the intelligent to exploit|||i dont think so, not with that anyway
tho its all based on judgments and what any individual peson thinks and thats where the commonality is to me

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