veganism: Dont you think veganism is extreme because they dont eat eggs, cheese or drink milk? Afterall eggs, milk and cheese have nothing to do with cruelty to animals right? what do you think?|||VEGANS ----- comes under the phiposphy of living 100% with out animal products. hence they do not take any thing that have used animals milk. VEGETARIANS------- they do not eat meat or eggs but do take milk. Eggterians they take eggs also bout no meat. all the three has nothing do with cruelity---there are some other reasons also. it is more a matter of faith--people think the milk is for the offsprings of the animals----by drawing the mother milk out you leave no milk for those children (CALVES)and hence her love and affection for them. in case of eggs --chickens give eggs daily if thet hatch them then more chicken will be there and when you eat eggs your eating them when you fry an agg, you are frying a chicken baby . all birds ley eggs--if you do not eat them --there will be more birds.|||A true Vegan is one that does NOT USE ANY animal product at all. Eggs are the embryo, as for milk and cheese, some could debate that it has to do with how the milk is extracted from tand how the animal is kept on the dairy farm that is cruel .|||I think you should research a little more because dairy farms are quite cruel to the cows and chicken farms for eggs are just as bad.|||I still have yet to meet a healthy looking vegan and vegetarian, especially one that doesn't fall over if you push them with your fingertips.|||No, not extreme. Just different. Quite close to veggie.|||I don't reckon it's extreme; it's just another diet or lifestyle or whatever, usually chosen either for health reasons or animal welfare reasons. Also, eggs, milk and cheese have a lot to do with cruelty to animals in today's world, because the desire for efficiency has made intensive farming the done thing; cows are impregnated forcibly year upon year to keep the milk coming until their bodies wear out, among other things (for example, impregnation equals babies, and what happens to the babies?) and chickens are kept in very poor conditions and so forth, and on it goes. There are lots of online resources and books that give information on the subject, both from a farming perspective and an animal welfare viewpoint. It's best to obtain the information from more factual, neutral sources, because otherwise there is an obvious bias for one side or the other. If you research a little into veganism you should find out some stuff. It's not much good me writing it here, because I'm a vegan for ethical reasons, and therefore anything I say will most likely sound preachy or biased or whathaveyou. (Also, in regard to another person's response, I am a vegan, and I don't fall over when people tap me; I wouldn't say I was overly healthy (just stocky I'm afraid!), but, all the same, not all vegans are skinny or weak as that statement implies. I'm not trying to be argumentative though! :-D) And in addition to that there are some people who simply believe that using an animal in any sense is exploitation - I'm not saying that this is good or bad, but simply that it is the case for some people - and therefore they do not eat any animal products - meat, cheese, milk, eggs, etc. - or wear any animal products - leather, fur, wool - or ride horses, or attend circuses where animals are in use, or fish, or visit pet shops, and so on and on.|||VEGANS---- real. VEGETARIANS---- lying to themselves.|||Veganism is not extreme. Some people believe that animals should have the same rights as humans, therefore their products shouldn't be used for our consumption and benefit. Some eggs are related to animal cruelty, such as battery chickens. The chickens are kept in tiny enclosures where they are only able to move their heads. They are kept in rooms with no sunlight and are fed chemicals to 'enhance' the size of the eggs. These chemicals not only effect the chickens, but us as well. Here's an image for you: http://aucklandanimalaction.org.nz/2/ima鈥?/a> Cows are also kept in enclosures very similar to the chicken enclosures, where they are also fed chemicals. Heres an image: http://www.jennifermackenzie.co.uk/2005/鈥?/a> I am just a vegetarian, but we buy organic free range eggs and organic milk, where animals are treated with respect and aren't fed chemicals, or kept in tiny cages. I hope you now realise that cruelty to animals is VERY closely linked to dairy products and eggs. If you are thinking of becoming vegetarian/vegan make sure you take supplements (not derived from animals) to ensure you have the right nutrients. Otherwise you are looking at ALOT of spinach. For more information you can go to: http://www.peta2.com/