Friday, March 9, 2012
I love chocolate chip cookies, and I'm gradually moving from vegetarianism to veganism, but of course cookies require eggs and butter.|||I like my own recipe best, but any recipe will do, with some minor adjustments, even the ones on the back of the chocolate chips packages.
First of all, obviously you'd want vegan chocolate chips. It's not too hard to find dairy free semi-sweet ones. They're in just about any grocery store.
In your recipe, instead of butter, use a vegan, usually soy-based margarine. Again any decent sized grocery store should probably carry some, as would an organic/health food store.
In place of 2 eggs, use 1/4 cup of natural UNSWEETENED applesauce.
Because of the way that the fruit puree goos up the dough, use approximately 1/4 to 1/2 tsp more baking soda than the recipe calls for, depending on how light you want your cookies. (More for lighter, less for heavier.)
I would also suggest using less salt than most recipes call for, no more than a pinch.
Good luck.|||I just tried the recipe from "Vegan with a Vengeance" (you might find the recipe here: http://www.theppk.com/ ) and they were pretty darned good. Not the very best chocolate chip cookies I've ever baked in my life, but good enough for omnivores to ask for seconds. I think I might try tweaking the molasses/sugar ratio a bit next time (in favor of a smidge more molasses and a little less sugar to keep the sweetness the same but make them a little richer.)
Edit to add: baking SO does not require eggs and butter. If you don't have a copy of "Vw/aV" pick one up. The pumpkin oatmeal cookies were divine with no tweaking and I'm addicted to all the muffin recipes I've tried so far (not to mention that the "real food" is pretty awesome, too.)|||Use applesauce in place of the egg and a vegetable based margarine in place of butter. Now you can have almost any kind of cookie you would like, except meringue.|||how about a raw recipe?
in a food processor: 1/2 cup raw almonds, 1/4 cup raw walnuts, and a dash of salt
add 6 unsoaked pitted medjool dates and 2 soaked (just put them in water for 20 minutes), with 1/4 teaspoon almond or vanilla extract
process until sticky
mix in chocolate chips
roll into little balls and then flatten to make cookies. grind up about 1/4 cup almonds in the food processor, then roll the cookies in the almonds. this will keep them from getting too sticky.
put them in a covered container in the refrigerator for two hours.
i swear this tastes just like cookie dough. it's great. they're not warm like fresh-out-of-the-oven chocolate chip cookies but they're still delicious!|||im not vegan but just search for some recipes and start baking
http://www.chooseveg.com/vegan-chocolate鈥?/a>
This uses Earth balance(butter) and egg replacer for the eggs even has a video|||I just use a regular recipe with very easy substitutions. Instead of butter, I use Blue Bonnet Light margarine (cheap!). In place of eggs, I use a small bit of applesauce, or even nothing (they turn out SLIGHTLY crunchier). When you buy chocolate chips, MOST (not all) semi-sweet morsels do not contain milk. Just check the bag. If the recipe calls for milk (which is rare), I use water instead, assuming it's not a lot (more than a cup), and it tastes no different. You could also use soy milk, if you have it.|||There is milk in chocolate chips so I don't think you can have chocolate chip cookies.
Oatmael Raisin cookies are great though.
I'm a newbie to veganism and I wanted to try making something with tofu but I bought medium textured tofu. I've been looking at recipes and they all call for firm tofu... can I still use my tofu?|||You can, but it may not come out as well. Here's a tip that helps me in the prep of tofu. Freeze it solid overnight. Then place it in the fridge for about a day and a half to thaw. This improves the texture greatly. Also make sure you press all of the water out of it until it's completely dry before you use it.
If 80% of vegetable crops are pollinated by captive bees, aren't 80% of the vegetable crops produced by the "exploitation" of bees?
These bees are held captive just like honeybees are. There is no harm done to the bees by either using them for pollination, nor harvesting the honey they produce.
Is it ok for vegans to be eating crops that are pollinated by captive bees? It would seem like that would go against the definition of "vegan".
Please answer just the questions asked. No need to defend veganism as if it's being attacked.|||Interesting question but I am going to tuck my tail between my legs and say that I am not touching htis one with a ten foot pole. However, with the honey bee crises I don't think we could too much without our captive bees.
edit- I am not sure if this is everywhere but where I live in the Midwest US farmers do use some captive bees for pollination. There are some real nice honey famers close to us and they have been hit hard by the honeybee crises. I know there are few bad ones in every lot, but these people are very nice and treat their bees with 110% respect. They do not do any of the burning or ect. Like I said though they are a small operation. I am sure some of the larger ones do use exploitive techniques.|||good question! I guess true vegans need to grow their own food if they want to be 100% true to their beliefs..|||Um, good luck finding veggies that weren't pollinated with bees! Whether wild or not, they still do the same job. The only difference is one lives in a moving hive and one in a stationary one. The quality of life for the bees is the same.|||"If 80% of vegetable crops are pollinated by captive bees....."
Its a shame you didn't quote the next sentance which says "...the 80% figure is likely wrong. Independent surveys suggest that honeybees are the dominant pollinators for only 15% of the world's crops", and they are talking about bees, not captive bees.
http://www.vegetus.org/honey/ecology.htm
A troll misquoting a website for thier own purpose, surely not !
If a bee were "captive", how would it pollinate vegetables ?
We don't use this process in the UK so I guess UK vegans are OK to carry on eating|||The only troll here is Mikey H flogging as a vegetarian and one concerned about animal rights when he's selling his hay to feed cattle that are to be cruelly slaughtered.
The argument is logical and makes sense. That's why only Breathairians are able to stick by what they believe. Damn vegans and vegetarians always find an "exception".|||you live in a house (i assume), do you consider yourself as being held captive? if bees were held captive, the could not get out. that is what captive implies. if they can't get out, they would not be able to make honey or pollinate anything. when you raise bees, you want them to live in your hive boxes but you do not keep them in the boxes. they come and go as they want. and people wonder why vegans get a bad name.
where did 80% pollination number come from? seems like it should be much higher.
Exclude foods with any dairy products or eggs.
Exclude any meat, as well.
I've become vitamin B deficient due to my veganism, I've started to take vitamin B pills but I heard that pills aren't enough.|||Pills are enough. Its hard to become b12 defiecent right away, as it is stored in the liver for years... However, you should drink soymilk, and eat mock meat, as well as fortified foods like breakfast cereals.|||beans
dark green leafy veggies like kale, collards, and broccoli
Like lacto versus ovo versus pescaterian versus any others....
Is there one form of vegetarianism that's any better than any other?
Is it better to go raw foodies, all natural (which may or may not include some "meats" like insects and wild-caughts).
I am guessing it is best to go all veganism over all types of vegetarianism, and all-natural or vegan over most other diets.|||Flexitarianism
A flexitarian is a person who largely follows a vegetarian diet, but allows oneself to sometimes make exceptions for certain situations, such as for social occasions, pragmatic reasons or nutrition reasons.
Semi-vegetarianism
A semi-vegetarian is, in some ways, a person who is ‘almost vegetarian’ and can refer to: - a person who does not eat certain meats (usually red meat) but eats limited amounts of some other meats- a person who does not eat red meat- a person who is a flexitarian i.e. the 2 terms are sometimes used interchangeably
This diet is sometimes used by those who wish to reduce the amount of animal food they consume, without totally being vegetarian, or sometimes as a transition to a full vegetarian diet.
Lessetarianism
A lessetarian is a person who focuses on reducing the proportion of animal flesh eaten, without fully eliminating it from his diet.
Ovo-vegetarianism
An ovo-vegetarian is a vegetarian who also eats eggs; the prefix “ovo” refers to eggs.
Lacto-vegetarianism
A lacto-vegetarian is a vegetarian who also eats dairy products, such as milk, yogurt and cheese; the prefix “lacto” refers to dairy products. He is sometimes also called a lactarian.
Ovo-lacto-vegetarianism or Lacto-ovo-vegetarianism
An ovo-lacto-vegetarian or a lacto-ovo-vegetarian is a vegetarian who also eats eggs and dairy products such as milk and cheese.
The basic rationale for this diet, I gather, is that animal food which is produced without causing death or suffering to the animals can be eaten. Another example of such foods would be honey. Some would disagree, however, as they feel that milking cows or making use of bees to produce honey would in fact be causing them suffering.
Pesco-vegetarianism or Pescetarianism
A pesco-vegetarian is a vegetarian who also eats seafood or sea animals, excluding sea mammals. They may also eat eggs or dairy products. He is sometimes also called a pescetarian.
Pollotarianism
A pollotarian is a person who does not eat all meat except poultry and fowl.
Macrobiotic Diet
The macrobiotic diet is a diet with many followers who believe in its health-promoting qualities. It contains mainly of unprocessed vegetarian foods such as whole grains, vegetables and beans. However, it is not a fully vegetarian diet as it sometimes contains fish. Sugar is avoided, and fruits are often also excluded or consumed in limited amounts.
The macrobiotic diet stands out due to its extensive inclusion of sea vegetables, such as seaweeds.
Su Vegetarianism
A su vegetarian is a vegetarian who also does not eat the fetid vegetables, i.e. garlic, leeks, onions, scallions, shallots. Su vegetarianism originates from Hinduism.
Fruitarianism
A fruitarian is a person who eats plant foods which can be gathered or harvested without harming or killing the plant e.g. apples and pears can be eaten without the apple or pear tree dying. This includes fruits, nuts, seeds and some other parts. On the other hand, a carrot cannot be harvested without killing the plant.
This is probably one of the strictest types of vegetarian diets around.
Veganism
Vegans do not eat any animal products at all, including eggs, dairy products, as well as processed foods which contain substances derived from animals, such as gelatin. Even honey is excluded.
To a large extent, veganism is more than just a diet, but also a lifestyle – some vegans do not use any animal products at all, not even for clothing or other purposes. They would often also be against practices such as animal testing in laboratories and modern commercial livestock farming methods.
A dietary vegan only adheres to the diet portion of veganism.
Raw Veganism
A raw vegan is a vegan who only eats raw foods.
Some define a raw vegan diet as one which consists of unprocessed foods which have not been heated above 46 degrees Celsius or 115 degrees Fahrenheit. The rationale is that foods which are heated above this temperature lose a significant portion of their nutrients, and can even become harmful to the human body when consumed.|||no
I recently became a vegetarian about a month and a half ago. I still eat eggs and drink milk. I have been doing weight lifting with my brother.
I understand that it might be more of a challenge to gain muscle mass on a vegetarian diet, but I have read about famous bodybuilders who were/are vegetarian.
I'm considering becoming a vegan, but I am going to be a vegetarian for a while first, and then switch to veganism. I'd also like to know some good substitutes for eggs and milk.|||I am not a doctor, so I have to say please check with your doctor before starting any new diet or exercise routine.
As long as you eat a balanced vegan diet, you should get all the amino acids, protein, carbohydrates and fats that your body requires. If you are concerned about getting enough vitamins and minerals, try Pangea's VeganLife multivitamin formula (veganstore.com link below).
For milk, you can substitute soymilk, almond milk, or oatmilk. Try different brands and see which ones you like (I like Westsoy, AlmondBreeze, and Whole Foods' brands).
To replace eggs when baking, you can use Egg replacer, a powdered starch-based product. For scrambled eggs, I love Tofu Scrambler (you can ask for the seasoning packet at most health food stores) - you just mix it with tofu and sort of stirfry it. Eggless Salad is another seasoning packet you can mix with Nayonnaise (delicious egg-free mayonnaise substitute) and tofu for a great dip or sandwich with bread.
According to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, you will need 5+ servings per day of whole grains, 2+ servings per day of legumes (beans, peas, lentils, nuts), 3+ servings of fruit and 4+ servings of vegetables per day for a healthy, balanced diet (please see link below). I have been a healthy vegan for 15 years, have never had to go to a doctor in all the time since then.
You may want to check out a couple of books from your library on vegan nutrition, such as Becoming Vegan: The Complete Guide to Adopting a Healthy Plant-based Diet by Brenda Davis, R.D. and Vesanto Melina M.S., R.D. and Vegan Nutrition: Pure and Simple by Michael Klaper, M.D. for more detailed nutritional information.
As for bodybuilding, check out the other 2 websites I have listed below if you haven't looked at these before. I think you'll find the nutritional information you'll need for being a strong vegan, strong enough for bodybuilding!|||well yeah its going to be very hard to gain muscle mass. you probably arent getting much protien. and for a substitute you can always do powdered milk i guess bu i have no idea for the eggs. and about the amino acids just take some vitamins|||Ignore the protein hype, it's all a myth! If you get 10% of your calories from protein you'll eat more protein (and amino acids) than you body can EVER use. You can use a website like nutritiondata to get real data on how much protein you take in.
http://www.nutritiondata.com/
Once you register you can use their Pantry to exactly track your nutrition.|||Any combination of legumes and grains will give you all of the essential amino acids.
They used to tell vegetarians to make sure that they ate "complimentary proteins" (that is, from a bean source and a grain source) at every meal. But not any more, as long as your diet is balanced as a whole.
Some people say that soybeans and quinoa are "complete," containing all of the essential amino acids, but there is some disagreement. Anyway, it seems so natural (and easy) to eat beans and grains together (beans on toast, vegetarian red beans and rice, tofu fried rice, black bean soup in a bread bowl, vegetarian chili mac, boca (soy) burger on bun, cold cereal with soy milk, etc.) that the existence of a vegetarian complete protein source is, what's the word I want, superfluous. Especially now that the "complementary protein at every meal" rule has been abolished.
Nuts are also high in protein, but I don't know whether they fall into the bean side or the grain side, so I'll let someone else speak to them.
The amount of protein you get from a balanced vegetarian diet is more than adequate for an athletic lifestyle. I'm not sure, however, if you are going for a Mr. Universe type of build, whether you would benefit from a protein supplement (which, by the way, are common among the top level bodybuilders who do eat meat, so it's not a vegetarian thing, it's a bodybuilder thing). Most of them are based on whey, which is dairy, but there are vegetarian options out there. Personally, I think too much protein is unhealthy, but I'm not a bodybuilder.|||There are tons of vegetarian sources of protein and the old idea that you had to combine them to get a complete protein in each meal has been modified. As long as you're getting enough protein from a variety of sources, your body will complete the amino acid profile. There is, however, a vegetarian source of protein with all 8 essential amino acids and that's quinoa. It has more protein than any other grain, plus loads of calcium, iron and fiber.|||eat a wide variety of foods. if your consuming beans,whole grains, rice, fruit, veggies, nuts, seeds and (if you like it) soy through out the day, then you are all set!
there are oat, rice, nut, soy and coconut milks out there for when you decide to go vegan. my favorite is almond breeze (their chocolate 'milk' taste just like conventional chocolate milk) but try them all out. everyone has different taste.
for eggs there is egg replacer (for when your cooking) but other than that there is not an actual replacer for eggs like for cooked eggs for breakfast. though you can use tofu for a variety of foods.
when you go vegan, or even now since your still starting off with vegetarianism, if you need any help you can always email me. i'd be happy to help ya out with whatever|||Quinoa has all essential amino acids, making it a complete protein. It's packed full of all kinds of nutrition. It's a seed that acts as a grain and you cook it like rice. It's very versatile as well - you can spice it up for dinner, sweeten it for breakfast, put it in salads, etc. Hemp protein is a complete protein and is also the most easily digested and absorbed by the human body out of what is thus far known. You can find hemp cereal, powder, milk, etc. Beans are obviously high in protein.
But, everything has amino acids - they are deemed "the building blocks of life." The only way you're going to have a "protein deficiency" is if you completely starve yourself. Cows, in their natural state, eat grass and leaves and that kind of stuff all day. You don't see them, or any other herbivore, itchin' for a protein fix. If you're eating a varied diet, you're sure to get all the protein you need. Vegans, contrary to popular belief, get more than enough. And there are world class body builders and athletes who are vegan (Google them), so I really don't think it would be a challenge to build muscle.
I've been recently writing about protein in my blog if you're interested. It's veganjacks.blogspot.com
Good luck.
They always tell me that veganism is stupid and i try to support myself by telling them that I do it for my health, the environment, and the animals, and they reply with who cares about the environment and animals and that I lack protein and nutrients, and I can't stand to listen to them anymore. What can i do to get them to respect me? They even call me a grass eater.|||Just don't respond. It is your life, not theirs. They continue to harass you because you continue to argue back. If you ignore them, they will realize that you are not interested in their misinformed information.|||Them: "Who cares about animals/the environment?"
You (looking at them like they are total morons): "Um, me. Duh."
Them: "You aren't getting any protein/nutrients!"
You (again looking at them like they are total morons): "You do realize that (whatever you're eating) has protein/nutrients, right?"
If you get someone who has a vague idea of what they are talking about, you might have to deal with more specific questions. Be prepared.
Them: "You aren't getting complete protein!"
You: "Thanks for your concern. Which particular amino acid are you worried that I am lacking?"
If they can't say anything, no worries. If they have an answer, know how to show that your bases are covered. Tryptophan is probably the most commonly-cited example.
Them: "But you aren't getting non-heme iron!"
You: "Yeah, I know. Iron is tough for everyone to absorb. Most people absorb about 15-35% of the heme iron that they consume, but for non-heme, it's only 2-25%. I take vitamin C to help absorb it, and try to get my calcium at a different meal so the two don't compete for absorption in my intestine. I also avoid tea, wine, and other foods with tannin when I'm having my iron-y food. Thanks for the concern!"
Them: "You're a grass eater!"
You: "Don't be silly. I'm not a ruminant. I only have one compartment to my stomach. Why would I eat grass? I couldn't digest it!"
Basically, have an answer ready. Be sure that your answer actually addresses the question, and remain calm. It's far less fun to pick on someone who doesn't freak out. If you can make 'em laugh/tease back, so much the better.|||First of all, Respect yourself for your own beliefs.
Apart from feeling uncomfortable when they give you a hard time, their opinions don't have any value or carry any weight with you unless you allow them too.
Ask yourself does it really matter to you whether they approve, understand or respect your choice?
If it really bothers you then ask yourself why it matters, the answer maybe how unconvincing you sound yourself in the arguments you put forward as your reasons.
Good Luck, and remember not to bite back at their teasing 'cos you don't eat animals of any description !! ;))|||Who cares about the environment? Oh dear. If anyone told me that, I would tell them that they should be thankful some people care or else they'd be swimming in their own waste and no water would be clean to drink, no air safe to breathe. Good gourd, how can you hate the environment?
Instead of retalliating, just ask them. Ask them why they feel that way.
"Why don't you care about the environment? The only reason we have clean air and water is because of environmental scientists. Why do you hate clean air?"
"What's the big deal that I'm vegan?"
"You think plants don't have protein? Prove it. Look it up."
"I don't make fun of you. I'm your friend/child/sibling, why are you being so very nasty to me for acting on my ethics? Why is that sooo bad?"
Just some questions for you to ask them.|||Ive been ridiculed alot by my family for being vegan. Especially since my grandfather was a butcher and everyone in my family hunts. It used to hurt my feelings when they brought it up, but now when they do i just tell them they aren't worth arguing with. It doesn't matter what they think as long as your confident that you're doing right. And if its really bothering you that much just calmly as them to stop and let them know that it really aggrivates you.|||I had the same issue. I'm 20 now, but a few years ago, I had been thinking about becoming Vegetarian. So this past year, I was Vegetarian for 6 months before making the full transition. And during those 6 months, my family gave me torture, except my Mother. My Mother was the only person who really believed in my decisions. What everyone ate in the house, I made substitutions. I started to ignore my families comments and harsh words. And...they stopped as well.
So my advice to you: Just ignore their words. Eventually, they'll stop. It's your life and decisions. Don't be surprised if you have to make your own meals.|||the same thing happens to me. the best thing you can do is not to react at all or just laugh it off! if you don't give them amunition, they'll get bored and stop bothering you. everyone gets picked on for something, its the way of the world. just ignore them and toughen up a smidge. really, its not worth it to fight back.|||Calmly explain to them that its your choice to be a vegan, just like its their choice to eat meat and stuff.
It might just be friendly teasing, because they love you, but its obviously bothering you. Another option would be to just accept the teasing and laugh along|||Like immature children, they will stop if ignored. Don't respond to any of their ignorant attacks, and they'll eventually get bored and stop.|||Who cares what they think it's your life.|||ask them how their corpse tastes or talk about the rendering industry, how they grind up euthanized cats and dogs to make food for other pets and farm animals|||What can you do to get them to respect you?
- Quit taking their bait. If they see they're getting no reaction, they'll get bored and move on to an easier prey.
- Respect yourself. You can't expect to get respect from other people if you don't even get it from yourself.
- Stay healthy. The best way to bring people around (to anything) is to be a good example. Maintain a healthy weight range while most of them are packing on the excess kilograms. Live a long life while they're all dying of heart disease and cancer in their 40s or 50s. As much as you can, prevent yourself from even catching colds and flus, as your "friends" (nice friends you have!) will claim you're sick because you're a vegan, ignoring the fact that omnivores catch colds just as easily (if not more so).
- Research nutrition, diet and health. You can thereby make sure that you *are* getting enough nutrients. You can also argue better if you know what you're talking about. (For instance, you can find a lot more information to indicate that you're getting enough protein than they can find to indicate that you're not. But, then again, they're not going to look for any, as they obviously live by the principle that "ignorance is bliss".) It's an ongoing process, as there are always new studies being released and reported - so read the news regularly. Look for anything linking certain foods or diets to the level of risk of certain medical conditions. Keep a copy of anything interesting or useful, or bookmark the websites.
I see people argue back and forth... more **** talking than discussing. Im just curious where these twisted views come from. and i'm not talking about people who justdon'tt really care for meat. im talking about these people who treat veganism like a damn religion.|||They feel that way because the way people kill the animals is absolutely brutal and just f+cked up.|||I admire vegans, they stick to their convictions and make sacrifices for what they think is right.
It's very sad that we have to kill to eat. How far have we really come?|||I haven't met any of the extra religious vegans but most vegans that I do know say that meat tastes awful and makes them want to puke. When they're over I prepare a meatless substitute.|||They call it "stolen animal products". A few eat it for specific health reasons, but most don't.|||Think of all the animals slaughtered to provide humans with meat. If we knew what went on in those slaughter houses, most of us would probably convert. I eat meat because I've been eating it all my life and I'm too used to it and like it too much to stop, but if I had to slaughter the animals myself to eat it, I could never do it. Could you?|||I don't know, but if jesus ate meat that's good enough for me.|||the Hell with Vegans meat is AWESOME!!!
I understand the reasoning behind vegetarianism and veganism, but could someone kindly explain the reasoning behind abstaining from only eggs and not dairy or only dairy and not eggs (the ethical reasons, not health).
Thanks =)|||yeah I'm sorta confused about that too.|||In favour of lacto vegetarianism:
-regarding the egg as an unborn animal, and therefore analogous to eating meat
In favour of ovo vegetarianism:
-the necessity for a cow to reproduce to give milk, thereby supporting the killing of unwanted calves, as opposed to hens being able to lay eggs for human consumption without having babies as "by-products"|||lacto-vegetarianism or ovo-vegetarianism isn鈥檛 just refraining from eggs or just from dairy.
It鈥檚 refraining from meat plus eggs or meat plus dairy.
Basically with every animal or animal byproduct food there is different suffering involved. With dairy there is the suffering that happens to dairy cows and it is also directly connected to the veil industry.
With eggs there is the suffering of the chickens cooped up in cages.
When you decide to become vegetarian you make the decision to take a stand against the cruelty to animals.
Some people just refrain from meat. Some take it a step further and stop eating eggs and dairy. Some choose to do one or the other. For some people it鈥檚 really hard to refrain from all animal products so they do what they can live with comfortably.
I was vegan for 3 years and then after a while it was just too hard to keep up with it as far as eating out and going to family events and parties. So I decided to allow myself a limited amount of eggs and dairy. My vegetarian life style is now easier for me to keep up.|||I agree with JV the Greatest, I am a lacto-ovo vegetarain, and for those who say an egg is an unborn chicken they should have there heads read???, I chose to become a vegtarian for health reasons, I was a chef for over 20+ year around the world, ate anything and everything that moved, but as a diabetic and having a celiac condition I have had to seek out a veggie lifestyle for both health and comfort reasons.
As JV said some people can adapt to the vegan lifestyle and not have issues, it is matter of body preference, I see no ethical issues with a lacto or ovo veg person, it is a choice to not eat them and any animal products, but it can make getting your protein levels in the diet you choose to be enough, especially if your a convert like me. I have no problem as I eat tofu, beans/legumes, all veg, a modicum of dairy in the form of yougart mostly, and only egg whites in cooking no whole eggs.
For some it is an ethical reason, they are unaware of things beleive all the retoric about unborn chicks and puss in the milk, trust me I have seen the processing of these foods and in the U.S and Canada there are very strict regulations as to the content of our food now, so the blind issues are not there anymore, and those who would say the are have mental issues.
Pretty much all of my friends are telling me to read something by him but I don't know where to start. What was your favorite book by him?
I read about five pages of slaughter-house five and didn't like it. Maybe I should give it another chance? I had veganism in my mind when I was reading it, you know, "slaughter house".
I've read an essay by him that I found really amusing but other than that, I'm clueless.
Any recommendations? |||Breakfast of champions.|||
Try Cat's Cradle. Excellent book. And yes, please give Slaughterhouse Five another chance. I think you will fall in love with it. Pax-C |||Go with the short story Harrison Bergeron. I thought it was really interesting and telling of what could come.|||Hocus Pocus was a great novel...and Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow is my favorite short story of his!|||In my opinion, without question- Slaughterhouse Five. |||The Slaughter House Five movie is much easier to read.|||I always recommend that folks start with Sirens of Titan. It's got the widest scope of his world view in it, and it's a great sampling of what Vonnegut is like as a writer. It's by no means his funniest book, but I think it's one of the more important ones - right up there with Slaughterhouse Five and Mother Night.
It's written in very short segments, and reads extremely fast. There are tons of great one line observations that you'll instantly feel the need to quote all the time! The story bounces between Malachi Constant - the protagonist - and Rumfoord, the founder of the "Church of God the Utterly Indifferent," a wealthy man who through a "series of accidents" becomes viewed sort of as a God on Earth and Mars. The story is magnificent, witty, quick, and, again, full of amazing observations and statements about society.
My favorite line of all time by Vonnegut, and the one that I think justifies people reading this book regardless of their tastes in literature, is, "A purpose of human life, no matter who is controlling it, is to love whoever is around to be loved."
Start with Sirens of Titan and move on from there. The universe Vonnegut created builds on itself and features a wide range of recurring characters including Kilgore Trout, and is an easy universe to fall hopelessly in love with if you give yourself the chance.
Enjoy Sirens!|||I really like the reasoning behind the "Sirens" suggestion. If you want to ease into Vonnegut a little, you might try "Welcome to the Monkey House", a collection of short stories that can be taken a little bit at a time. Will give you a great overall feel for how Vonnegut is going to talk to you in his novels
I've been doing a lot of research about veganism lately because I've been interested in making the switch. I have been a vegetarian for quite some time now. I was reading about vegan materials such as leather, wool, goose down, which are obviously not vegan, and I wanted to find out which commonly used materials are vegan?|||cotton
hemp
flax
modal
rayon
polyester
nylon
pvc/vinyl
etc. etc.
It's best to stick with natural fibers over manufactured ones though. They're less harsh on the environment & your body (man-made fibers make you sweat more...they don't really let your body breathe healthily/properly). But, at least a cotton/poly. blend is better than something that's 100% polyester or a poly/nylon blend, etc.|||I don't know if you have to use "vegan" stuff if you decide to be "vegan" and only eat plants. Raw and organic is a trip you might like. Cotton, hemp and rubber is the go. Silk, cashmere and wool would be out of it I would think.|||Cotton?
Hemp?
Synthetics?
That's what I use for clothes.|||Cotton is king.
I am making posters for my new room and I want to cover each wall with something important in my life and veganism is one of the big ones so i need a lot of slogans. I have regular 8 by 12 papers and need to cover a fairly large wall. So tell me any slogans you know or can think of.|||I'm not vegetarian coz I love animals, I'm vegetarian coz I hate plants
im a level 5 vegan :i dont eat anything that casts a shadow.
If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian|||Vegetarian by choice, not by chance.
Milk is rape.
Live simply, so that others can simply live.
--AND-- then:
give peas a chance
i love animals--just not for dinner
don't ask me why i'm a vegetarian--ask yourself why you're not
my body will not be a tomb for other animals
that's ms. liberal, tree-hugging, vegetarian hippie freak to you, buddy
hug a vegetarian
animals are my friends and i don't eat my friends
love animals, eat plants
beef: it's what's rotting in your colon
fish is not a vegetable
vegetarians are animals in bed
vegetarian because i know better
animals die to keep your fat *** alive
how can you be pro-life and eat dead animals
veggie kids--smarter than the average meathead
i think therefore i am vegetarian
vegetarianism for peace--nonviolence begins with your diet
be kind to animals--don't eat them
i'm not a vegetarian because i love animals--i'm a vegetarian because i hate plants
if you aren't a vegetarian you don't know beans
live and let live--go veg*n
if you're not vegetarian you're guilty of animal cruelty whether you know it or not
animals love me--plants fear me
i care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it--abraham lincoln
i <3 hunting accidents
if slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian
ham: enjoy your pig (butt, anus, ***)
vegetarian: no blood on my hands
mad cow: that's what you get for eating meat you dumb @$#&!
beets not meats
freak your parents out: go veg*n|||"Wings are for flying, not frying."
lol :)|||Vegan food is delicious too|||You want to turn your room into an advertisement???????
That will keep people out at least.|||"Tofu never screams."
I always loved that one, hehe.|||"I don't eat my friends"|||Meat is Murder! Delicious murder.
I enjoy most of them!
But I get a kick out of people thinking that veganism puts you into the extremist category...when I was vegetarian, no one would think twice of it...if I said that I was a strict vegetarian, no one would say anything, but say vegan and everyone takes a step back....but my life hasn't changed that much, except that I feel great.
I also find it amusing how people think that we are against natural law when really, that is exactly what we support.|||I wasn't particularly amused by this since it was a normally very intelligent person saying it but yesterday I was told that people don't need to eat plants. Every thing we need is in meat (who get it from the plants). It's more efficient to get nutrients from meat since the animals eat a variety of foods.|||Well if you are a dude, then everyone just assumes you must be gay if you are a vegan.
Also i love all those health myths about veganism being unhealthy. In fact, i was hit with such a grand preponderance of these "factual" based statements, that i actually dediced to make nutrition (dietetics) may area of formal study. Now whenever someone tries to tell me that veganisn isn't healthy, i first asked them to source their information, then i tell them how i study dietetics at my university. In the long haul its kinda funny.|||My mother always used to say, "I'm suprised they don't starve themselves to death. They ARE eating their animal friends' foods, isn't THAT animal cruelty?"|||They're allergic to the sun.
**|||My old boss told me one time that vegans were nasty and mental and smelled funny and they were colored green. that was the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Smelled funny?? Green?? Mental?? I know many vegans...and I mean "vegans" NO dairy...etc... they smell better naturally than any meat eater and they were far from being "green" and quite frankly were much less uptight. I told him to go get a colonic and put down that burger. lmao!|||Nothing wrong with them except for they live longer but the quirk that trips me out is when they get regular colon cleansing.
That's cool because I really love vegetarian fare and I'm an omnivore.|||My favorite is that vegetarians are scrawny and pale, because it's so easy to reply: "Forrest Whitaker and Hank Aaron are vegetarians."|||Oh goodness, where to begin?
Roll the laugh track!
- veganism is an eating disorder
- vegans are all liberal
- vegans are all socialist/communist
- vegan men are all gay
- vegan women are all lesbians
- vegans won't have sex with non-vegans
- vegan clothing is all cheap and ugly
- vegans don't tip or don't tip well
- vegans don't want carnivorous animals to eat meat
- vegans believe everyone should be vegan
- vegans are all underweight and pale
- vegans are all rich people with nothing better to waste money and time on
- vegans only support charities for animals
- vegans don't care about starving African children
- vegans all belong to PETA
- vegan women don't shave their legs/bodies
- vegans smell bad
- vegans can't stop farting, not even for a second
- vegan food is gross
- vegans all secretly crave meat/binge on meat in private
- vegan people are all atheist
- vegans all support abortion
- vegan men have erectile dysfunction
- vegan athletes are a joke and should be in the Special Olympics
- vegans can't exercise because they're too feeble
- vegans can't be runners or be very fast runners
- vegan people don't eat any protein
- vegan women don't get their periods
- vegan children are mentally retarded and stunted
- vegans spend hours trying to plan meals
- vegans are rude at social gatherings
- vegans can't adapt to social outings and offend everyone
- vegan men have low sperm count
- vegan men can't reproduce
- vegan men have so much estrogen from soy in their bodies they grow breasts and skin tags
- vegans are all extremists/lunatics
- veganism is a cult/religion/fanatic following
- vegan's poop smells super good
- vegan's poop smells super bad
- vegan's pee smells really good
- vegan's pee smells really bad
- vegans eat only raw food
- vegans cannot use computers
- vegans don't use any electronics
- vegans will not eat fruits or vegetables that weren't grown in confinement so that there isn't any animal fertilizer on them, bugs or insects or anything else like that
- vegans will not drink water from a water supply that other animals drank from
- vegans want to have NOTHING to do with animals, period, including no service-rescue dogs or pets
- vegans are constantly protesting something or other
- vegans cannot cook/there are no vegan cooks
- vegans cannot smoke or drink alcohol or be promiscuous
- vegans worship animals
- vegans are all hippies
- vegans are all potheads
- vegans are all preachy
- vegans have yellow, discolored skin
- vegans have green, discolored skin
- ALL vegans get routine colon cleansing
- vegans will not take medicine or go to a doctor, even to rescue their child that is dying of leukemia, and would instead try to heal their loved ones with herbs and shamanic chants
- vegans resort to crime to enforce their beliefs
I could go on FOREVER, there's been SO much stupidity I've seen on this site!|||I'm always puzzled by all the non-animal foods that some people will insist vegans don't eat. I've heard that we don't eat yeast, that we don't drink alcohol, that we don't drink coffee, that we don't eat bread, that we don't eat gluten, even that we don't eat peanuts. It seems that people are really confused and think that all vegans fit into whatever image the one vegan they've ever met fit. Sure, some of us are gluten free (usually because of gluten intolerance, and in no case I know of, because of the ethics of slaughtering all those poor, poor wheats!)
I feel really passionate about animal rights, health, and the environment... basically veganism in a nutshell! I think I could manage to date a vegetarian, but it would be really difficult for me to date an omnivore that would tell me, "I respect your decision, why can't you respect mine?" Because I find it difficult to respect the decision to cause harm and contribute to animal suffering, bad health, and polluting the environment.
I was just curious about your opinions!
Vegetarians: How would you feel about dating an omnivore?
Vegans: How would you feel about dating a vegetarian? How would you feel about dating an omnivore?|||I am Vegan. I dont think I could ever get serious with an omnivore. Maybe casual dating, but nothing more. I am also very passionate about animal rights and the environment, and wouldnt consider dating anyone who wasnt. We would be too different. I have never met another Vegan, and even Vegetarians are hard to come by. I would hate to say I am settling, but for now thats what I'm doing. I would love to find a Vegan, but it hasnt happened yet. I can say that I would never marry an omnivore. Could you imagine the problems that would arise there? Not saying I am better than them, just that our ideals would be too different.|||To the first poster:You do realise you can not eat meat and be for animal rights?
She is not implying anything you just saidf...hhhmmm, you like to put words in people's mouths....
Big deal, I will not be rude to a meat eaters face(ok, I will be rude tot the trolls, but they deserve it!) but I as well find it hard to respect them. Sorry, but that is my opinion and nobody is going to change it.
Veganism is very healthy, she has every right to be passionate about ehr health as a vegan, enviornment. You do realise how the meat industry hurt sthe enviornment right?
You simply can not be an enviornmentalist and eat meat!
I would find it a little hard to date an omnivore. Maybe if there was one considering going vegetarian I could bring myself to. Or if I simply really liked a girl.|||Funny.. sounds like you don't want a partner who can respect you.. you want a partner who does what he's told... that is called having a pet And going into a relationship where you already feel superior to the other person because of your personal choices almost certainly guarantees failure. The best part of a relationship is having the person by your side not looking down on them. On the other hand, there is no point either in getting into a relationship where you feel like puking every time you sit down for a meal.
Maybe when you grow up, you will understand that there is more to a relationship than "what's for dinner" and that there is more to life than "animal rights, health, and the environment"|||"I feel really passionate about animal rights, health, and the environment"
I eat meat and i also feel passionate about all those things. I think it shows how stupid vegetarians are that they don't believe a meat eater can be in support of any of those things. Just because i eat meat does not mean I am trying to make all animals go extinct, while killing myself, and tearing down all the trees. Quite the opposite. In general I think I have more respect for animals than most vegetarians ever could, I grew up on a farm so I've always had a special place in my heart for animals. My health is extremely important to me, i watch what i eat and run about 20 miles per week. I also recycle and my frat house picks up garbage around campus for 4 hours each week. I also don't have a car, I bike everywhere. Most vegetarians don't even put forth HALF as much effort that I do. You sound very narrow minded.|||I am very passionate vegetarian. I'm only 12 and my mom would kill me if i became a vegan but i plan to as soon as i move out.
All of my friends eat meat except for one but she's a pescotarian. I don't mind as long as they respect me. My entire family eats meat as well.
I've dated plenty of meat eaters and one of them tried to become a vegetarian with me. I agree it is easier to have the same diet. I am currently dating someone who's favorite foods are sushi and BBQ. Pretty ironic.
Give omnivores a chance, who knows maybe you can inspire them to become a vegetarian.|||Disagreeing on morals would probably mean you don't have that much in common in the first place, but I find more concern with functioning in everyday life. How do you enjoy a dinner out together when he orders a big fat steak? would you kiss him after he ate that? What if he uses chapstick with lanolin in it? Certainly can't kiss him then. I know a vegan who dates a meat eater and find that very strange.
Even if you believe in animal rights, especially if you are aware of the extremes of it and why I've made that choice, and claim ignorance anyway, that makes you look like an ***. That certainly would make it hard for us to hang out without coming to a heated debate.|||im a vegan.
to me my choice to being vegan is a personal choice, i don't have any problem dating an omnivore. as long as they respect my choice i'll respect theirs. there is no way im gonna find someone that i completely agree with everything they believe in, if veganism happens to be one of those points than so be it.|||I was an omnivore when I married my vegetarian wife (no, neither of us are vegan, but maybe this will still help you). She never pressured me, but I did learn how to eat tofu, and other different things. I ate less and less meat over the years. I ended up years later in a speech class where someone presented on factory farming. That was the last straw. I am now a (almost) happy vegetarian. My wife eased me into it without pressure. It's almost better that way...it was my own choice.|||I'm happily married to an omni. I went vegan after we got together. We get along with it way better than I thought we would. He orders meat when we go out and I don't cook it at home. He likes veggie food too, not just meat and potatoes.|||Id feel totally fine dating an omnivore as long as they didn't push the issue of me becoming an omnivore. If they supported my animal rights and concepts it would work out just fine.|||you can get more dating tips for men and women
http://www.momayz.net/date|||im a vegan and my bf is a meat eater its really annoying because when we have kids he doesnt want them to be vegan but i do its always a battle with every thing we can neva agree on party cakes etc..|||To me it's kind of like interfaith marriages. Some people can have successful relationships with people who don't share their beliefs, others can't. Depends on the person.|||I don't care-- I mean, he has his opinion on whatever, I have mine. Love isn't about what you eat, it's about... well, LOVE!|||***gasp***
your dating a dinosaur?!?!?!?!?!?|||Why do all vegans think that we have bad health?
I bet I am a healthier person than you, but we'll never know.|||Date an omnivore? Hell, I married one!|||red meat makes me big and strong|||I'm sort of in the same boat. I have been giving this much thought lately and I seriously don't think I could marry an omni. I know that sounds SO stuck up, as I would not want someone to say that they could not live with or marry a vegan. But it is what it is. I feel so passionately about my veganism, I know I could not tolerate having dead animals in my kitchen. Cooking is a wonderful experience for me and I just do not think I could fix my food knowing that there was one cruelty in my pots and pans. I could date an omni as long as we never eat together. (haha)
I think I could date a vegetarian, but I don't know if I could marry one. Eggs? Milk? Blech! Those smell to high heaven. Not sure I could stomach that.
I recently became a vegetarian, and I was wondering how long it took some of you that went from vegetarian to vegan. Or did you go hardcore into veganism. And how did you make the dietary transition|||One evening, a year ago, at 9PM I went vegetarian. The next day I ate a vegetarian lunch (salad with ranch dressing) and after that I went vegan. I went from omnivore to vegan in less than 24 hours!!
I did some research...propaganda on both meat/dairy and vegan sides sure, but the vegan "propaganda" was much more convincing and made absolute sense to me. The meat/dairy info I felt was for profit, whereas the vegan info was out there without you having to buy a certain product. The vegan side was genuinely concerned about the state of things and not trying to sell me a product for my money.
At first, I wasn't exactly sure what I should be eating, I just knew I had to do it...dive in, if you will. I went to countless websites and went to the library to gain some insightful information. And I have never looked back. It feels good to know that my money isn't directly going to the industrialized animal agribusinesses.
It's an easy transition and I didn't have to wean myself off animal products. My body may be different, I'm not sure, but just take it from me, I went vegan in a relative heartbeat. Ultimately, you know your body better than anyone else and your body will tell you what you need and what you don't. So give it a try already. Go vegan as soon as possible. If you feel it's too soon then gradually transition.
Have fun and enjoy your guilt-free lifestyle!|||I jumped right into veganism from a completely non-vegan diet. It mostly depends on whether you have to discipline yourself to keep to the diet, or whether you're concerned about nutrients. If you're concerned about nutrients, there are definitely differences and you need to research them. Once you're ready you can dive right in. Happy Eating!|||i eased myself into it in about a month. the first week i just stopped cheese. the second milk. the third egg. and the fourth anything else.
its ok to go your own pace. you are taking a great step to help others in need!!
PS= ALL THOSE BI0TCHES WHO ARE SAYING WE ARE CARNIVORES ARE WRONG YOU DUMBA$$ES SINCE WE EAT PLANTS MORONS! ALSO WE LIVE 3-5 YEARS LONGER THAN A MEAT EATER AND HAVE A 40% LESS CHANCE OF GETTING CANCER.
so shove that up your @SS
=]
good luck with being vegan and i hope you dont encounter d|ckheads like the ones above.|||It took me 7 years, during which time I gradually cut out all the non-dietary aspects such as cosmetics, pharmaceuticals and clothing; then the last thing was dairy products. But you can go straight into it if you want.
My best advice is join an animal rights group or a vegan social group to get support from other vegans. Check out yahoo groups to find something in your local area.|||I'm not techincally sure of the answer to this question, but my opinion on being a vegan is you'll know that you're a vegan when your vegetarianism becomes more passionate and serious.
I'd imagine that vegas feel very strongly (physically and emotionally) towards vegetarian lifestyles. the devotion portrayed by vegans is probably similar to any other activist group out there.
The difference between vegetarianism and vegan is probably the amount of passion and devotion one is willing to put into the transition.
I'm a vegetarian also, but i have my limits. I doubt that i'd ever be able to cross the line though.|||I don't think there is any reason why you have to wait. I have successfully switched to a vegetarian diet, but I can see that going vegan is going to be really hard for me. But that's my plan! I will enjoy reading the (serious) replies here too.|||I've been a vegitarian forever, and I became vegan last week. So I waited 17 years...but I dont think it should be a problem.
I only did it because of some PETA thing I read that scared me off dairy products for life. It's not that different. Just substitute soy everything.|||have a happy short expected lifespan|||Humans are carnivores. Our teeth prove this.
Eat a steak.
I decided to convert to veganism and am going to do it right! I know gelatin is from boiled bones and meat, and some red food dyes come from insects, but I'm not sure about any others.
What are some ingredients, like gelatin and such, that are derived from animals?|||"A few common ingredients found in lots of "seemingly" vegan food.... to look out for include:
* Gelatin (including marshmallows)
* Casein (calcium caseinate) (Found in soy cheese sometimes....)
* Rennet (Also found even in soy cheese sometimes....)
* Whey (a dairy product found in lots of things... breads, margarine...
Also look out for :
* Mayonnaise鈥ost contain egg
* Pasta鈥? Some contain egg"
More at source's website.|||Watch out for animal fats in food you wouldn't suspect they'd be in- like pies, cakes, refried beans, etc. Also, look out for anything that contains renet, which is usually used in making cheese. It's an animal enzyme.|||Whey, and lactose is milk.|||gelatin, casein (cheese), rennet (cheese), animal shortening, animal fat.|||websites that tell you which products have hidden animal products you cannot eat; (taken from the peta2 website: http://www.peta2.com/STUFF/s-eat.asp)
1. Gelatin: protein made by boiling cows鈥?and pigs鈥?skin, tendons, ligaments, and bones. Often used in Jell-O.
2. Lard: animal fat.
3. Pepsin: clotting agent from pigs鈥?stomachs, used in some cheeses and vitamins.
4. Rennet: enzyme taken from baby calves鈥?stomach essed in cheese production.
5. Stearic Acid: fatty substance taken from slaughtered pigs鈥?stomachs used in chocolate and vitamins.
6. Cetyl Palmitate: oil derived from whale鈥檚 sperm.
7. Urea: urine from animals, used to brown baked goods like pretzels.|||http://www.happycow.net/health-animal-in鈥?/a>
i think this list might help you|||be careful of mock caviar, some of them are made from lobster eye balls.
Even the people saying veganism is hard are wrong. If you're a lazy person that doesn't like cooking, veganism will be "hard" because you have to stop being lazy...even still, I have no problem eating out at restaurants that don't cater to vegetarians/vegans, including diners! So this notion that veganism is hard or difficult is from very confused and apparently people so lazy that they won't read a menu.
Veganism is easy and helped me cut my grocery bill by a whopping 66% and has improved my health. I was into bodybuilding as an omnivore, too, but I hold onto my gains longer with veganism!
Easy, inexpensive, healthy...can't ask for more than that!|||Why would you come to a board that is meant to help out vegetarians and vegans asking for arguments against it? Makes no sense.
Btw, to all the people saying its hard - its only as hard as you make it. If you tell yourself its hard, then it will be; if you tell yourself its easy, then it will be easy.
And vegans know that nobody can be 100% vegan; but there's a difference between doing the best you can to reduce animal suffering and help the environment and not doing anything at all.
There are no arguments against veganism. All the "arguments" come from those who are too ignorant to accept that veganism is actually an excellent way of living.|||The most compelling arguments I've heard is that vegan- ism is not sustainable. I do think it's true that's there's not enough vegetation to go around between a world full of vegan homsapiens and herbivore's. The other devil's advocate arguments I've accepted are that consumerists veganism isn't that environmentally friendly. Unless you're growing all your food permaculture style, or eating localvore, fossil fuel is being used to truck your stuff around and you're using just as much packaging as a person on a traditional diet. I'm not sure how long modern veganism would last in a depression since we're depending a lot on convenience. At some point we'd have to consider eggs and dairy. Then there's the argument that you can never truly be vegan unless you're a Buddhist monk or neoludite who is adverse to any form of technology containing the remains of deceased animals. Someone gave me a philosophical argument online that I couldn't refute. The only reason vegans can claim to be on high moral ground is because plants have not been proven to be sentiment. If you could prove otherwise then we'd have to find another reason besides the claim of compassion. As you can see I like a good argument.
I've been a vegan for 7 years but I'm no longer sanctimonious about it.|||There is really only one-it is very hard, if not impossible. I'm not counting spurious arguments like we are made to eat animals because of our wickedly sharp fangs, or harvesting crops kills animals ( what does livestock eat? right, plant crops) or dumb arguments like because meat tastes so good or supplies nutrients unavailable through other foods. That's just ignorance.
But it's not only difficult to avoid all animal byproducts or exploitation, it also takes a great deal of diligence and commitment just to plan your diet. I give big props to those even brave enough to try.|||It's impractical. However, it's hard to weigh practicality against morality.
Also, to an extent it's impossible. In this progressive society many objects are made of animal products. Vegans have to qualify this by saying they aim to minimize their contribution to animal suffering.|||Karina said it best. I have been a vegan for 3 years and it is easy for me. I don't crave cheese. I don't crave milk. I don't crave meat. It is far easier to be a vegan then ever before. They have so many options available so there really is no excuse for not being vegan. I DO see factory farming as a concentration camp for animals. Why is it that some people can make this distinction and others can't? I don't know. People need to think about what they eat. What they wear. Question things. The concept of reducing suffering is one of the reasons I am vegan. Take it as you may.|||The only somewhat valid reasons to not be vegan are ignorance & selfishness.
Regarding too many answers above, it is not difficult to be vegan at all. If you have the mindset that it is something that is difficult to do, then it ultimately will be just like anything. I've been vegan for over ten years & find it extremely easy.|||vegan, vegetarian or omnivore. all personal choices. not a reflection on anyone's character regardless of what anyone thinks. healthy, well balanced eating is what matters and morality and ethics should be at the head of the list. i personally have a problem with killing for sport. to me, that's disgraceful and truly sinful.|||There is no argument to be against a person's diet. You might as well write an essay about how you hate Jews and Kosher diets. It's wrong.
To whine and snivel about what a person eats is pathetic, not to mention vulgar. It's become way too common to actually waste time making excuses for what you eat.|||Veganism is good for the enviroment. Veganism is cruelty free. Vegans have a longer lifespan than meat eaters and experience fewer diseases. Vegan food is healthy! Oh, you wanted arguments AGAINST veganism??? Sorry, I honestly can't think of a single one.. Peace.|||With the exception that it's very hard to do, there really aren't any valid arguments. Besides, any person with the will and dedication could committ to veganism regardless of how hard it is.|||I can't give you one. I'm a vegetarian and so happy. I have never been this healthy in my life! I also dropped 13 pounds in a little over a month! My doctor says I'm in great shape inside and out! So, I have no idea why people still eat meat now-a-days!|||It turns you self righteous and judgmental possibly causing you to alienate friends and family.
But on the plus side you won't need to worry about self esteem issues with the free golden pedestal you get from the Vegan club.|||You need to what? I don't understand your English.
And if you don't want to be a vegan,nobody is forcing you to become one.
Not everybody is ready.|||Being a vegan means you can't eat meat eggs or dairy anymore.
For me, that would absolutely suck.|||Assuming you are looking for *valid* arguments against Veganism, there are none.|||Its no good for lazy people who are not prepared to cook delicious food, they would be setting themselves up to fail.|||There are no arguments against veganism.|||IMO, there's only one valid, scientific argument against veganism: Humans require Vitamin B12 and it is not available in any plant foods.
Today people who choose and can afford to take a handfull of pills every day can supplement, but that's a fairly new option for humans. So obviously it's not human's natural diet. There is no archaeological evidence of any ancient peoples who did not use/consume animal products.
From a VEGAN site:
--"B12 is generally found in all animal foods (except honey). Contrary to rumors, there are no reliable, unfortified plant sources of vitamin B12, including tempeh, seaweeds, and organic produce. The overwhelming consensus in the mainstream nutrition community, as well as among vegan health professionals, is that plant foods do not provide vitamin B12, and fortified foods or supplements are necessary for the optimal health of vegans, and even vegetarians in many cases. Luckily, vitamin B12 is made by bacterial fermentation such that it does not need to be obtained from animal products."--
How important is B12:
--" B12 protects the nervous system. Without it, permanent damage can result (e.g., blindness, deafness, dementia). Fatigue, and tingling in the hands or feet, can be early signs of deficiency.
Vitamin B12, like folate (aka folic acid), is needed to help red blood cells divide. In some cases, vegans may get so much folate that even with B12 deficiency, their blood cells continue to divide properly. In other cases, their blood cells will fail to divide properly and they will become fatigued and suffer from macrocytic (aka megaloblastic) anemia.
Mild B12 Deficiency
Homocysteine is a byproduct of protein metabolism. Elevated homocysteine levels are linked with increased risks of heart disease and stroke. From 1999 to 2003, there were many studies comparing the homocysteine levels of vegans and vegetarians who do not supplement their diet with vitamin B12 to those of non-vegetarians (more info). In every study, the vegans or vegetarians had higher homocysteine levels than the meat-eaters and in the range associated with heart disease and stroke."--
Here in the US people can eat what they want. They have a wide variety of foods from many countries available to them. The vegans who claim that not eating meat saves animal lives are wrong. It's common knowledge that animals die in the fields for their diet, too. And they ignore the environmental impact of shipping the fresh fruits, grains and veggies they eat year around from thousands of miles away.
IMO, veganism is dying. Here's the site of a former vegen who interviews well-known vegans as they revert back to meat eating. These are not kids, 12 year olds who didn't "do" veganism right. They're educated, young adults who fell into veganism, got sick and had to consume animal products for their body's sake. Frankly, the more I read, the less I believe most humans can live a healthy, successful life on the vegan diet.
http://letthemeatmeat.com/tagged/Ex-Vega鈥?/a>
And this lady is making big waves in the internet vegan community:
http://voraciouseats.com/2010/11/19/a-ve鈥?/a>|||I would hesitate to say that veganism needs to be argued against (it is an ethical position that takes animal suffering as a reason for not eating meat products--how is that possibly bad?) but rather adopted freely with caution. It requires much attention to getting all the adequate nutrients and this can be very difficult especially considering that veganism is a class-based eating culture that is almost exclusively upper middle class. Affording tempeh and seitan is not an option for many. Many vegans rely on extensive supplementation, powders etc. to make up the gaps in their diet.
By the same token, meat eating should be approached with caution, too, obviously.|||It is against the bible and you are only creating a larger population of animals that will overcome humans. With more herbivores it is likely there will be more carnivores. Carnivores like meat and humans are meat. Also with veganism haunters loose their jobs. Then the humane killing hunters use gets overcome by inhumane slaughter houses. So basically you guys trying to protect the animals gets them killed. Also when you guys don't eat animals people get mad and eat more.|||There are no reliable plant sources of B-12.
Vegans need to get supplements or eat artificially fortified food.
Contrary to popular belief on these boards, it is actually worse for the environment.
Runoff from fields has created a dead-zone the size of New Jersey in the Gulf of Mexico.
Farming crops destroys topsoil faster than it can be created, even with crop rotation and summer-fallowing.
It is not sustainable. Look up "Polyface Farm" for an example of a sustainable farm.
It does not feed more people. A diet containing some meat actually uses less land than a vegan diet. (Pastured cattle are kept on land unfit for farming crops: too sandy, hilly, rocky, etc.)
It's not healthier than a balanced omnivorous diet. The claims that it is compare vegans to "everyone else", and "everyone else" is usually eating crud. Just look in people's carts at the grocery store: full of processed food.
Seventh Day Adventists are always brought up as an example, but to make an equal comparison, you need to compare to someone with a very similar diet, only differing in meat. That would be the Mormons. And the Mormons are actually healthier than the Seventh Day Adventists.
Soy is actually unhealthy. The only soy humans should eat is fermented soy (tempeh, miso), not the tofu, soy milk, soy everything people eat.
Soy actually acts similar to estrogen in the body.
And a study by Dr. Lon R. White, a neuro-epidemiologist in Honolulu, concluded that eating tofu two or more times a week accelerates brain aging and diminishes cognitive ability. And soy isolfavones can block tyrosine kinase, an enzyme used by the area of the brain responsible for memory and learning.
This is a problem for everyone eating lots of soy; vegans, vegetarians, even omnivores. Soy, like HFCS, is being put it everything now days.
.|||- Doesn't support American industry
- Faulty because its damn near impossible to go without some kind of product that uses animal parts
- Millions of small creatures (rabbits, mice..) are killed by the harvesting of vegetables.
- It goes against natures intent. We have sharp teeth for tearing meat.
- It's dumb|||The only valid argument against veganism is that it is an extremely difficult lifestyle to adhere to completely.
You have to be very vigilant with everything you buy, from the shoes on your feet, to which cereal you buy even down to the soaps you wash with.|||We're humans, our bodies need meat. Arguments against are nothing more than an attempt to back up a hip trend.
I know how difficult it is for vegetarians and vegans to get a good meal when going out with friends. Some resturants don't even have salad! I think a petition should be started because vegetarianism and veganism is so popular now and if there are no meals to suit our needs, then I think that is just horrible.|||They are actually required by law to cater to any specific dietary requests- you don't NEED a petition!
I do however think that a WISE restaurant proprietor should definitely have at LEAST two vegetarian options and one vegan one as I even though I am a meat eater, I do have days when I just DON'T want to eat animal products at all and when you are limited to dubious salads as the only meat free dish at a 'restaurant' it's pretty off-putting!|||I think this really should be the case everywhere, not just in Australia. I doubt a petition will make any difference though, the likelihood of a law forcing restaurants to have such menu items is extremely unlikely. However, I would be surprised if you couldn't request something vegetarian. They might have something not on the menu, or make something without the meat. That is, unless it's say, a fast food joint.
I don't live in Australia, but I went to the Keg with my gf's family, which is a steakhouse that had absolutely NOTHING on the menu vegetarian. I had been to a different location that had a veggie burger but this one didn't have one, so I asked the server. Turned out they had some veggie mushroom fajitas they just don't put on the menu, so I got that. Maybe it is different in Australia, but I've yet to find a restaurant that wouldn't specially make something. Just ask. They want to make money, it's unlikely that they will not work with you.|||I think they should have a vegetarian/vegan section on the menu like they do in thai/indian places. (Even though the vegetarian meals at thai places contain fish sauce and shrimp paste, aka not vegetarian).
They have options for meat eaters so why shouldnt have have options of non-meat eaters.|||YES! 10% of the world claims to follow a vegetarian-type diet. I think a petition would be a great way to let restaurants know that vegetarians and vegans need options, too. I live in the United States (you know, that place that has supersize meals bigger than your head?) and a lot of restaurants don't have any vegan options and I have to customize dishes.|||there should atleast be a vegetarian option at every restaurant. vegan isn't as popular so i don't think it's as necessary, but it would be nice. i work at a restaurant and the only vegan/vegetarian food is a salad.:-(|||As a citizen I believe we citizen have right to petition.|||real silly that restaurants do not cater to vegetarians and vegans. restaurants would make a lot more money|||I don't think a petition would do much. Who would you present it to? And what would they care? - unless it was a guarantee that they would get all the signatories to come in and buy their food. If the petition doesn't translate into bums-on-seats, then it's a waste of time and money changing the menu. And vegetarians only make up around one in twenty Australians, so they're not a very big potential client猫le for a restaurant.
I've been to very few restaurants with absolutely nothing I could eat. Even if you can't find something on the menu, chefs will often make you something which is not there in black-and-white. You only have to ask - salads are quick and easy for chefs to put together - so much so that many don't even bother to put them on the menu. Alternatively, you can ask for one of the non-vegetarian menu items which is *almost* vegetarian "minus the bacon" or "minus the prawns" or minus whatever other ingredient it is that makes it non-vegetarian. It's normally as simple for the chef as leaving out mushrooms or peanuts or whatever for someone who is allergic. Just ask *nicely* and it shall be done for you. (If you ask in a pain-in-the-backside way, you risk getting something more than you asked for. So, always be nice to waiters and chefs, if you really don't want their saliva or other yucky things mixed in with your food - that advice works for non-vegetarians just as much as it does for vegetarians.)
Most restaurants have a copy of the menu on the front window, so you should be able to tell, before entering, whether there's something there you can eat. If there isn't, then just go to the next restaurant (luckily, restaurants normally travel in packs of three or four, for protection - heck, even the Maccas, KFCs, Red Roosters, Hungry Jacks, Subways, et al. are opening up next door to each other these days!).
I mean, I live in Manhattan. There are vegans everywhere in NYC. I have yet to see someone dying of veganism.|||The industry associations are very good at mis-education at all levels of schools and professional conferences. The tactics are well documented by many.
The best research I've seen to support a healthy vegan diet is by T. Colin Cambell in a book called 'The China Study." It's available online and free through Google books. It also explains how industry is able to mislead lay people and professionals alike.|||Well, short answer, because they're ignorant. :)
But to elaborate, I think most people don't really know a hell of a lot about nutrition. Especially in America, where a lot of people tend to rely on processed foods an awful lot & it's been ingrained in our brains all throughout grammar school that there are four basic food groups, and the meat group is where you get your protein, the dairy group is where you get calcium, etc. They don't tell you that protein is found in pretty much all plant foods (some more than others) and there are tons of plant sources for calcium. A lot of people think "Well, if I learned it in school, it must be right" and don't really go much further than that. There's also a huge emphasis on protein and dairy in America (like those ads professing that drinking cow's milk will help you lose weight...yeah, right). Your average omni actually consumes waaay more protein than they actually need, and of course it's mostly animal protein, so they wind up with heart attacks & strokes & such later on. Good for them. :)
I'm 32, have been vegetarian since I was 15, and vegan since I was 23, and I am so much healthier than most people my age that I know. Many of my friends (who actually...well, most of my friends are 5-7 years younger than me, there's only 1 who is closer to my age) are already having issues with high cholesterol or blood pressure and things like that. The only major health issues I've had have to do with foot injuries I had as a kid. I also look a lot younger. I almost always get carded, and anyone I'm out with only gets carded maybe half the time.|||Red lentils, chickpeas, and soy are terrific sources of both iron and protein. I think since switching to vegeterianism my protein and iron intake have increased, since it's now cheap.
According to the U.K. Vegan Society, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans and so these foods should not be relied upon as safe sources, as the B12 analogues can compete with B12 and inhibit metabolism. Also, vegan humans who eat only plant based foods must ordinarily take special care to supplement their diets accordingly. The only reliable vegan sources of B12 are foods fortified with B12 (including some soy products and some breakfast cereals), and B12 supplements.
Thanks to the guy below me - watch out for this!|||there's no vitamin B12 in a vegan diet. B12 is found in meat and it's crucial for proper brain function. A B12 deficient person can suffer from all sorts of nervous system anomalies ranging from mild memory loss to things like mania/psychosis, sclerosis, etc, so it can be pretty bad when you don't have enough B12.
Protein is also a big issue but these days, it's not really a problem. Lots of vegans can get their protein from tofu or beans or lentils.
if you're set on having a vegan diet, just take a B12 supplement and you'll be fine. It is an absolute must.|||I've never seen on somebodies death papers: "death by vegan"
You can die by not having enough of certain nutrients (eg: protein, vitamin B12), but you can't die from being a vegan.
Obviously, as a vegan if you watch what you eat and get enough protein, etc. then you'll probably live healthier and longer than most people.|||Because the meat and dairy industries spend millions of dollars in marketing telling the general public otherwise.
Can you believe some people really think that milk is the ONLY source of calcium?? Or that meat is the only way to get protein??|||Because any diet if not properly planned can kill you.|||Because they think meat, dairy, and eggs are food groups.|||Because vegan food terrorism pisses off so many people they will want to bash their heads to pulp.
Humans were not made to be vegan!|||IDk but maybe becuase since vegans dont eat meat . they dont have protein i guess you could say it shortens your life cause you need protein|||For the same reason some say that eating meat will kill you .|||probably cause of your intake on protein. some people think meat is the best source
I have recently made the decision to become vegan. I have all the research and my older sister is a vegetarian. Still, my parents do not really support our decisions. My sister is free from them being 25 and all, but I still have a lot to go through with them.
Can you tell me anything that will make my transition to veganism easier even with un-supportive parents??|||Don't get angry with them for not understanding - help them to see why you want to be a vegan! Make a list of facts that describe all the benefits of going vegan ( saving animals lives, this is a truthfully healthy choice, longer life...etc.)
Also it may help to show them sites such as meetyourmeat.com (especially if one of your main reasons for going vegan is because of animal cruelty).
Tell them (and then show them!) how just because you aren't going to be eating meat doesn't mean that you won't still get all the necessary proteins and amino acids that you need. (Rice and beans are a fabulous substitute for meat when it comes to nutrients).
Also you age may have something to do with it. I was 15 when I went vegetarian, so I was old enough that my parents (after I talked with them about it) felt I was responsible enough to handle my eating preferences.
Keep your cool and compile together a list of resources. Be like "mum, dad. I know you are having some doubts about me becoming vegan, but let me show why I want to become vegan and how I can still get the same benefits that I would normally get from meat/dairy." Be prepared to answer their questions - even their really obnoxious ones! lol
I wish you the best of luck and I know exactly what you're going through! :)|||Your parents should be concerned that you are getting proper nutrition from your vegan diet. If you can show them how you can plan your meals to get enough proteins and healthy fats and so forth then maybe they will be more willing to support you. Tell them you will prepare some vegan dishes for them to try. They might decide they like it too.|||Possibly refuse to eat meat no matter what, and after a while they'll get used to it and maybe you can live your lifestyle the way you want it =D|||This is child abuse! If you want to get healthy and your parents are at odds with you!|||Why would you want them to except your lifestyle? That would totally suck.
You should want them to accept your lifestyle.
If you cannot support your lifestyle, then you obviously should change your lifestyle until you can support the lifestyle you want. I mean it is common sense. Just be vegetarian for the time being or if they won't allow that, then wait till you move out then go full on vegan.|||Are they gonna hold you down and force you to ingest meat? Of course not.
It would be helpful to provide them with some information to show them you know how to eat healthily and inform them about the reasons for your choice-there are lots of great websites for this purpose.|||Because of the internet this generation is way ahead of your parents generation. You're much more educated about the harm meats can do to the animals and to us.
Treat them with respect and tell/show them what you know....as friends. Then I'm sure they'll listen to you.|||Move out. |||I can't say much more than what others have already suggested, but here are some of my thoughts.
1. Know in your heart you're doing the right thing (because you are) and don't change your ideals for anyone.
2. Keep your cool with him. Respect their feelings about it. You don't have to agree with them, but respect them.
3. Learn to cook! There is NO better way to convince someone that you're eating a healthy diet than by proving it to them through your cooking.
4. Get your facts straight. When they talk about protein, talk to them about beans and broccoli (they have just as much, if not more, protein than the same serving of meat). When they bring up Omega-3's, teach them about flax and hemp seed (flax and hemp have PLENTY of Omega-3 fatty acids). When they talk about cost, show them how our government subsidies are what actually keep beef costs low (a hamburger actually costs closer to $100 than it does $1). Etc, etc.
5. Be patient with them. I know it's frustrating, but they're older and come from a different time. The things they know about food and nutrition are mostly false. They've been lied to for decades and it'll be tough changing their minds.
6. Be a responsible vegan: Learn to cook, learn to shop, and learn about what you need do in order to be healthy (just because you're eating vegan bean burritos everyday doesn't mean your diet is good for you).
Hope this helped :)|||Just calmly explain to them why it is so important to you. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I don't think it is right to kill animals for selfish desires like a taste in my mouth. There are plenty of non animal foods that are readily available and better for your health' I mean how can you argue with that.
It took my parents awhile to get used to me being a vegetarian and when I told them I was vegan it didn't shock them. Because I made it very clear to them in the beginning my stand point on why I was choosing that lifestyle.
Hope I could help!|||why should you have to accept their life style ( eating dead animal flesh and dairy products) that has been shown to be unhealthy and dangerous??
you are taking responsibility for your long term health and and proper nutrition....by your example perhaps they will learn a healthy life style and be around for a long time....
Pleaaase state your religion (or lack thereof) for this survey!!|||Vegetarians are ok, but vegans are not healthy, you can't be. You need proteins that neither you nor plants can create.|||Christian. I'mmmm a vegan.|||my religion is to be the best you can to yourself, and to others. i'm vegan because i think the best thing i can do to the animals, is to not eat them, but help them :)|||I'm a Christian vegan.|||Hello, my name is Sarah and i am 14 years old. I am a christian, and i think Veganism is amazing. I am Vegetarian and soon to be Vegan. I think that Veganism is a good choice for a healthy and environmental lifestyle. You can get protein from Hemp Seeds, whole grain, nuts, beans, and many other things. Veganism is a great thing.|||whatever, let people do as they like I'm a catholic vegetarian ever since I went to the highly agricultural provinces of my country and cried at a farm were they kept boars and cows and chickens because I felt so guilty of taking the lives they had all the right in the world to live-but, im not going to speak about those who chose to eat meat or any other products derived from animals--as for me i keep eating dairy because I need my calcium plus, What else would all those milk cows do if they werent giving milk to us, just stand around there I guess?? anyhow, I don't eat anything that walks, slides, swims, flies or breathes through a nose just because i feel like it.|||Atheist.
Vegan-ism - When followed properly - is a healthy alternative diet for those who wish to rid themselves of a dependence on animal proteins.
There are many great recipes and in the summer - a wonderful selection of foods ot chose from.
I eat fish, veggies, fruits and nuts. Because I include fish in my diet and buy products that are made using animal based glues (composition books, sneakers, commercial packaging tapes and sealants etc.) I definitely cannot be considered "Vegan".
I do however respect the people who work so diligently to live that life.
On the other hand I get annoyed at the people who claim to be vegan but still use the aforementioned products.
It takes a lot of effort for a person to be truly Vegan and you should not take credit or include yourself in that particular group if you are not dedicated to it.
Thanks for asking my opinion.|||LDS aka: Mormon aka: Christian. I want to be a Vegan.
My grandpa was a farmer and he says that God put animals here to serve man. My grandpa on the other side is a vegetarian. Both grandpas are accepting of both views.|||I don't follow under a certain religion because all religions have little things that defer them form one another, and no one knows which one is correct. Only God knows. Anywayz, I love God and I've let Jesus (His son who sacrificed himself for us to live) into my heart. I pray for guidance and strength when I need help. I also pray when I ask for God's forgiveness, as like everyone does, I sin, but God knows I try very hard to not sin and be the best person I can be. And I'm vegan. I feel it is very healthy, as long as you have a well rounded diet and get all the vitamins you need to stay healthy. I do it for my own health and of course for the animals, which we have taken for granted, instead of working with them and loving them. Just like humans, they are sacred and we are all here on this Earth for a purpose and need to work together, not kill one another. That's just the way I see it.
Good question and hope I helped.
And sorry for the babbling ahaha.|||Atheist. I have been moving in that direction partly from an environmental point of view and partly because the farmers markets are providing such variety that I consider my support of local growers to be a political action against corporatism, the bane of humanity.|||Agnostic - and I think veganism is great!|||agnostic, vegan, and I believe that a living soul should be considered property or used for profit.
Edit: for those choosing to be vegan dont get rid of all your non vegan things (make up, wool coats, leather belts) There is a difference between believing in what you do and being wasteful.|||Veganism is good.
I'm not bloody religious... !|||I am vegan, is is the closest to a moral society that we can be unless we detach from society- agnostic|||Atheist. Vegan.|||Its baaaaad... You need meat, and dairy and stuff. Everyone i know that is a vegan, is soooo weak, and honestly pathetic.|||I am a Christian and God has given us meat to eat and He even mentions it in the bible.
Acts 9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
14"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."
15The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
16This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.|||animals were put on earth for man to eat so i say NOM NOM NOM NOM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM CHICKEN AND STEAK AND FISH AND WHATEVER ELSE NOM NOM NOM vegeans are not healthy btw and if its for the animals well animals eat animals how can we stop them hmmmm? are we going to make every lion a nice glass of grass juice ? no its ok to eat meat and vegetarian is ok but vegan is just not healthy you need dairy and protien and other stuffs to function properly
Fruits/Veggies - You're getting the nutrients from Earth second hand (eating a source that processes it directly)
Clean Animals (beef, fish, poultry, mutton) - Getting nutrients third-hand (eating the thing that eats the thing that processes the nutrients)
Unclean Animals - fourth-hand nutrients (eating the animals that eat the animals that eat the things that process the nutrients)
That's the basis of the Biblical dietary laws. Fruits/Veggies are ideal. But as far as meats, it's not just because God decided that some animals were unclean. It's practical advice as well. Get your nutrition as directly as possible. Don't eat the predators, and don't eat the garbage cans.|||Good answer Report Abuse
|||Does it really matter what you eat as long as you get the nourishment you need?
I eat meat and I eat vegetables and that should be good enough for everybody.
As for veganism I don't mind it and I actually admire vegans for their discipline; I can't imagine eating nothing but non-animal product for the rest of MY existence.
The only thing I don't like about some vegans is if they are who they are simply because they think humans are monsters for eating other animals for food. They say meat-eaters are disrespectful of living things; what are they doing? Are plants not living things as well? So why are they eaten?
Are lions and cheetahs and other carnivores monsters because they feed on the flesh of other animals? NO and that answer should apply to humans as well; lions are being lions, cheetahs are being cheetahs and we are just being ourselves.
Also I should add that if it weren't for the consumption of meat products the human race would never have survived the Ice Age when most plant life perished.
So yeah follow whatever diet you want; just do it for the right reasons.|||Meat-eaters eat too much meat to be healthy.
Veganism and vegetarianism are not how we are supposed to be. Humans are meant to eat meat.
However, considering we have access to lots of meat nowadays, we eat too much being meat eaters. Eating no meat is healthier than eating too much meat. Thus, being a vegan or a vegetarian is the healthier option.
Neither have the higher moral ground, for animals are killed in both process. In fact, more small land mammals are killed in the process of providing specialist foods for vegans and vegetarians, and also habitats for animals are destroyed in this process too (which does not happen in the process of providing food for meat eaters).
More vegans and vegetarians = more demand for vegetables and specialist foods = more animals killed and more habitats destroyed (so animals can never live there again. Ever.).
So neither is more moral than the other - but being a vegan or vegetarian is healthier.|||Health-wise, I don't think you get all the nutrients your body needs from just eating fruits and vegetables (veganism). Although, I also don't suggest eating red meat. Fish is much preferable, and chicken, too. We also need to drink milk. So, there should be a good combination of fresh fruits and juices, fresh vegetables, almonds and walnuts, oatmeal, white meat (fish/chicken) eggs, and fresh milk/yogurt. And these you should eat religiously!|||You can eat vegans, but I think that's cannabalism....just kidding. I know eating people is a big taboo for most cultures.
Although that brings me to my point. I think that most people are speciest and will place higher value on species that are closer to human than not. For example, cows (being a mammal) will have a higher value than an ear of corn ( a plant)...making it harder for them to be willing to consume said cow, morally.
If your philosophy however, is that everything has an equal value spiritually, Doesn't an ear of corn deserve the same respect given to a cow, or a human? If you think about it like that, you might not want to eat at all. Or you might go the opposite direction and realize that since you have to eat to live, you might as well just eat anything, since spiritually everything has the same value.
|||If one is an omnivore by nature, which is what we are, (we have teeth and a digestive system system for booth meat and veggies) then forcing yourself to not eat meat is not natural. Saying that killing animals for food is somehow wrong (a sin?) is just fanatic and denies reason.
Danielle seems to be a level headed person and even nice, but Eskimos, who have been around a few thousand years, may dissagree with her.|||im a vegetarian of 17 years
eating meat is part of nature, we are all food for soemthing else, but i just dont want to be part of it myself, but i dont expect anyone else to change, my boyf is a ravenous meat eater,
i dont know much about veganisim, but i often wonder exactly what they do eat, and whether they care that nuts and seeds are part of plants, part of life, its still eating another being, just one that we dont understand of consider a being,
for me the fact is, if you were to not want to eat any living thing, you would be dead, because there is very little in this life that isnt from some sort of living being, be it animals or plants|||Meat is so delicious. I dont think I could live the rest of my life without eating another ham and turkey sandwich, or never again tasting bacon. So for those vegans, good for you. I'll stop eating animals when they tell me they don't want to be eaten.|||Meat eaters devour vegetarians.
Vegetarians don't devour meat eaters.
Odor eaters devour odors.
Meat eaters devour shoes plus odors plus vegans.
Humans devour the meat eaters,the vegans.
The cooking techniques the real issue.|||I'm an omnivore, so I'm going to eat like an omnivore.
Pandas are omnivores who adopted the vegan lifestyle, how's that working out?|||I'm a vegetarian.Why?
Not sure who(religion) you are addressing|||You think eating meat is bad? Vegans are eating all the plants. That's no better. Just because it doesn't have eyes or a mouth doesn't mean it's any different.|||Veginismus has nothing to do with meat-eating.|||I think vegans eat to sustain life just as meat eaters do. To each his own.|||Both are living beings|||Whatever you like. I'll eat veggies if they're fried.|||I eat both meat and vegans|||I don't eat anything with a face|||to each his own
I just recently went from vegetarian to vegan and I am 121 pounds and I am curious about the weight loss. I don't want to lose too much weight but I am unsure if vegans even do lose weight. I exercise regularly and eat properly.
Also would taking a multivitamin be enough for my body as a vegan?|||it really depends on your diet before and if you really have much weight to loose.
i run cross country and march tuba, and i lost five pounds if that.
i definitely wouldn't be worried about loosing too much weight there are plenty of ways to keep the weight on, whether that involves healthy or unhealthy fats :)
i try to get all my vitamins from foods, but having a multivitamin is just something nice to have if you can't eat as healthy as you'd like for a couple days, but if you eat a pretty healthy diet the vitamin really isn't even necessary. with the exception of B12 which is in many breakfast foods, like cereal, oatmeal, and granola bars.|||if you feel that you are losing weight on vegan diet, just adjust your calorie intake, increase it by 200 calories. you dont need to change anything as far as exercising because being active is good for you. you can take multivitamin and make sure you are getting enough B12 and iron. artichokes is high in calcium thats also good for you. i've been vegan for a few months now and im losing weight slowly.|||Well, seeing as you're 121 lbs., how much weight do you really have to lose?
It depends on how much dairy you ate when you weren't vegan. If you were an ice cream or cheese junkie, I'd think you would lose a few pounds. You'll be way healthier, but you may not lose as much weight as you'd expect.
I'd suggest you that you do take a multivitamin, just to make sure you get all your vitamins.|||This answer has been selected as best answer for more than seven times by asker (yahoo answer) for weight loss.
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Do you consider alcohol ok in a vegan diet? Or is veganism also concerned with maintaining a sober lifestyle?|||Much alcohol ( probably >80% ) is not suitable for Vegans.
It would be really interesting to see where those that said "its ok" got thier info from, i'd like to correct the source of those errors.
There are some that are filtered and use vegetable finings. These tend to be clearly marked.
Veganism is not to do with being sober - certainly not the ones i know !|||Alcohol is fine in a vegan diet.|||That is a personal choice, but alcohol is vegan most of the time so it fits in a vegan diet.|||Healthy eating is not the same thing as being an ascetic. Red wine is very healthy. People who drink more moderately鈥攁 glass of wine at dinner, for example鈥攈ave a lower incidence of heart disease and tend to live longer than those who are teetotalers, completely abstain from alcohol.|||A lot of straight edge people are vegan. Most vegan people are not straight edge.
As long as you don't get plastered regularly, you aren't hurting the spread of veganism.
There is a connection between moderate or occasional alcohol consumption and reduced risk of suffering from dementia later in life.|||Some breweries,wineries and distillers use animal products-mainly for filtering and clarifying. There are websites where you can find out what brands are vegan, though.|||yes alcolol is on a vegatarian diet, wine , grapes, vodka and pine nuts is gin. and you can make your own using fruts (pinapple,marricino cherries, watermellon, cranberys poke holes and has to stand for 3 months the others can just take a week!) PLUSS YOU HAVE TO ADD SUGAR!!!, kasza|||Veganism has nothing to do with drinking or not drinking. My boyfriend is a Vegan and still drinks.|||Alcohol is fine on a vegan diet, but I don't think its okay to over do it vegan or not.|||Alcohol comes from fruit, rice, potatoes, corn.... plants. Never heard of Bovine Alcohol...|||I think there are some vegan wines and beers -- I've seen them at some vegan websites. I'm hardly an expert, though, since I do not personally drink (for reasons that aren't related to veganism).|||there are no animal products in beer or other alcoholic beverages that i know of. and peta proved that beer has more nutrients than milk,and causes less health problems-hence their 'got beer?' campaign.|||A lot of types of alcohol are filtered using animal products (fish bladders, if I remember correctly). If a vegan person is uninformed, they might drink these un-vegan types of alcohol. However, if a vegan person can find a kind of alcohol that is animal-friendly, they should feel free to drink it.
Being vegan and abstaining from alcohol do not necessarily go hand in hand.
Based on what I have read, vegetarianism/veganism is NOT a diet but a lifestyle choice based on respect for animals. That if one abstains from meat for health reasons, but would eat it if it was not for the fat and cholesterol then they are not a vegetarian, but one who eats a vegetarian diet. Likewise if some one is too poor to purchase meats, but would gladly do so if they had the money (this is true for many in the third world) then they are not a vegetarian.
If we accept the above is true would it also be fair to say that when a vegetarian claims her toddler son is a vegan/vegetarian, then her statement is equally false? If a four year old is only given vegetarian food, the child has not made a choice. He can only become a vegetarian upon being offered meat and deciding not to eat it. Agree, disagree?|||Who's parents would be so inconsiderate of their child's feelings? I would be supper ticked off if someone forced me to eat meat! This child is a vegetarian. If one is too poor to afford meat I wouldn't classify him/her as vegetarian. This person doesn't have the frame of mind of a vegetarian. If given the option to eat meat he/she would. I also wouldn't consider a 4 year old a vegetarian because at such a young age a choice hasn't been made. Being a vegetarian is a choice and frame of mind. It isn't an issue of circumstance.|||I believe the argument you are making is whether or not "intent" to be vegetarian is enough if one has no control over the "non-veggie" forces in his/her life?
If that is what you arguing--- I would say "Yes".
Good questions and will likely prove the black & white fanatics on here some trouble. It will be interesting to see how "Free Range Mikey" (Mike H.) weighs in on this one....LMAO.|||i would say yes|||I agree... I think that in a situation like that the teenager should be considered a vegetarian! And it's sad because it is true that some parents are like that... we've seen kids here complaining about it!|||technically a vegetarian is one who does not eat any meat of any kind, so no, even if he wants to be a veggie more than anything he still isnt one. for example, if youve always wanted to try and fly by jumping off a building but your parents dont let you then you still arent a bird.
i have no idea where that example came from but you get the idea|||Not all vegetarians embrace the lifestyle, some just don't eat meat and it can be a diet. Some really don't care about animals. I read about a celebrity who ate a vegetarian diet, but used real mink for her false eye lashes.
The guy in the ship wreck could still claim to be a vegetarian. After all, is it fair to refer to those people who were in the plane crash that had to stay alive by eating other people as cannibals or don't they resume being omnivores (assuming they are/weren't vegetarians) when the ordeal was over? If the people too poor to buy meat do eat meat when possible then no they aren't but if they never eat meat then yes they are vegetarians or vegans. The teen girl is, sadly, not a vegetarian. The child is still a vegetarian whether he chooses or not if he doesn't consume any meat.|||So...having a vegetarian diet does NOT make you a vegetarian? You must have the intent to be a vegetarian as well? And, intent ALONE is enough to make you a vegetarian???
This is really interesting. I don't know the answer, but you've smarked my interest in finding out.|||Anything you eat is a part of your diet so vegetarianism IS a diet and a lifestyle. Vegetarianism can be adopted as a lifestyle for several other reasons besides the respect for animals. The definition for the term says nothing about choice.
If a four year old child is fed meat and eats it, you are saying that he is not an omnivore because he was not given the choice?? Silly.|||I mean if they don't want to eat meat, and their parents make them eat it.. that would be a passatarian,,,,,,, or a doormataterian ,, I think,,
and yes the sodatarian diet, gave me nothing but hemorrhoids,
I just stopped eating all together, so now what am I Wolfy? huh?
OK,, I am still drinking my red bull
I am a caffeterian,,,,,,lol|||I was an atheist from the age of 8. I was forced to go to church on Sundays and attend a christian school until I was 17 years old. Was I a christian because I was forced to adopt the traditions of a belief system that wasn't mine?
If you define being veg*n as a belief system then it doesn't matter that the veg*n is forced to eat meat. What matters is if they resist and how they resist. Your hypothetical teenager is obviously trying to resist as much as they can reasonably be expected to, so they are a veg*n.
Maybe he will end up like most teenagers and get a job at MacDonalds. Then he can afford to buy vegetarian food.|||You are a vegetarian is you do not eat meat, fish, poultry nor slaughter by-products.
There is no need to make it any more complicated than that.
If you eat meat, no matter how, you are not vegetarian.
As for all the hypothetical extremes scenarios, they don't prove or tell us anything.
eg: Would you sleep with a stranger for $1
No, how about $1,000, or $1M, or $100M
If you end up saying yes to some random super-large figure, does that make you a prostitute ?
Do you stop becoming a prostitute if the offer is withdrawn, or do you remain a prostitute but just with a very high charge ?
See, non of it helps in any way.
As for the 10 year veggie, eat fish, 10 year veggie. What would be wrong with saying "I started being veggie 20 years a go but ate fish once 10 years ago when i was trapped". Its the truth, why wrap it up.
A couple of examples on intent:
If i intent to kill someone but never actually get around to it because I'm too busy, am i still a murderer because of the intent ?
and the second:
I intented to be a good person but i actually killed 50 people. Does that still make me a good person because i "intended" it that way.
and a third
"we didnt intend to kill 250,000 iraqs"
Does that mean we didn't kill them, i don't think so.
Intent is not enough
Very little of what you say makes sense and if you are trying to make a point you would be better off doing it directly rather than these hypothetical situations
Why do you keep using phrases like "universal say yes", "presumably", "if we accept", "assuming thats right/you agree"......you've just gone down a hole without taking us with you. we might disagree with your very first assumption and then the rest falls apart
A "4 year old child who is fed only veggy" is an omnivore that is fed a vegetarian diet. humans are not carnivores, omnivores or herbivores depending on our diet. Humans are all omnivores. C, O and H are species categories of diet, not food choices.|||Your original question is sort of awkward. Unless his parents hold a gun to his head, HE makes the choice what he eats. (And even with the gun I would refuse to eat a dead animal part)
The four year old is a vegetarian. You have a serious problem with setting up status quos fairly. I could just as easily say that a child raised eating meat has not made the CHOICE to eat meat, and is therefore not a meat eater.
Secondly, the guy eating fish would still be a vegetarian. The definition of vegan and vegetarian is someone who excludes animal products (or just meat) from their lifestyle WHENEVER possible. If the dude was going to die unless he ate fish, most would agree that that is a situation where it's NOT possible, if he wishes to live.
You're a meat eater, no???
I'm 28, I have a BA in communication and I'd really LOVE a job that encompasses my two passions in life... God and veganism.
Any suggestions?
|||It's a tough combo, but you might become a freelance writer for Christian and vegan/vegetarian magazines, or for other pubications in these areas. With a little research, you might find some publications that combine your interests. For example, there is actually a magazine called The Fit Christian (link below).
Good luck!|||Start your own vegan restaurant or health shop. menus could have inspirational / spiritual quotes incorporate health & faith without being over the top. Offer Creative, gourmet tasty menu items an excellent juice bar supplement & literature buy or receive complementary, calm & relaxing ambiance and first class service. You have you degree in communications so you wont have a problem organizing yourself and getting the word out. eventually you can cater church events business functions etc or start the other way out seek out small catering jobs. Use your church as a network to get jobs and then expand into a restaurant.|||I suggest you rethink your desire. Passions in life should be just that...a passions you can enjoy. You would not want to reduce your passions to a daily hum-drum. A job can be enjoyed, definitely. But separating things in life leads to a fully life. A job that does not conflict with you passions would allow your passions to grow and flourish.
I hope this makes sense. I have similar passions and have worked jobs around those passions. I am now most happy enjoying my passions on one hand, enjoying my work on the other.||| Choosing a career is one of the most critical decisions you can make in your lifetime. My son needed guidance with his career choices in recent times, so he tried the site in the box below, which has some sensible tips and tricks on career decision-making. It certainly hit the spot for him because he now is aware of exactly what he wants, and more importantly what he needs to do to get there!|||Your career shouldn't be affected by God and veganism...it should just be something that you yourself like...eh, I guess you seem to like God and veganism
In which case...let me think
The jobs in which you can be close to God are
Nunnery...
Oh, no Pope, sorry...Guys only.
Nunnery...Nuns...did I mention Sisters?
Lets check out veganism...
Veggie restaurant/cafe
|||ummm...communications..u could do alot with that. try going intot he theatre/director/producer industry, theres alot of people that need God there, and just dont eat meat..?
also go into like sales and marketting, you talk to people non stop and theres always a chance to slip in some preaching
or you could simply become a pastor or a missionary. then just dont eat meat and communicate allllll day|||I suggest that you start a winery. What better can you get than Jesus's choice drink, and Fruits put together with the hard work of growing. Now a communication degree could fit somewhere in there because you will attract a lot of wealthy wine connoisseurs who need your services of what best fits them.|||I am a Recruiter/Sponsor for GDI. I am seeking motivated individuals like yourself from the comfort of your home online. You can make up to $2000 in your first month. Please feel free to visit my website to get more valuable information. We are 100% legit and listed with the BBB. It is 100% free to start! What are you waiting for? Go now:
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|||1. God is a made up being by old world people to try and explain what they didn't know.
2. Humans have fangs. They were meant to eat meat with. Without supplements, vegans would die.
3. Career has nothing to do with religion and eating habits.|||What does your religion or eating preference have to do with a career? No one dictates to you what you eat at a job and religion should never be brought into the workplace.|||you're not going to find a job that has anything to do with both, together. carry your vegan lunch to your job in a church.|||My mother is christian so am I. My mother owns a pre school and my aunt is a hotel manager but I don't think you'd want to do that. You can volunteer in a foster home.Or become a foster mother|||I would say you can pretty much eat what you want at any job and quite often your boss wont mind if you have a bible in your office.|||nutritionist, missionary
pharmisist
school nurse (christian school)
family relationship expert
guidance cousellor|||a cafeteria worker at a Christan school|||A reality TV show contestant, because you sound quite whimsical.|||Barefoot & Pregnant|||Food prep worker / cook in a vegan restaurant near a church
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i am both too, but im tall
I'm 15 and I have been a vegetarian for a while and I thought about becoming 100% vegan recently. I heard that it's a healthier alternative to meat-eating and lacto-ovo vegetarianism. What are the benefits than I can get from veganism?|||Being a vegetarian or Vegan is MUCH healthier!
To prove veganism is much better, here are some facts:
Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat meat daily compared to less than once a week: 3.8 times
For women who eat eggs daily compared to once a week: 2.8 times
For women who eat butter and cheese 2-4 times a week: 3.25 times
Increased risk of fatal ovarian cancer for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week vs. less than once a week: 3 times
Increased risk of fatal prostate cancer for men who consume meat, cheese, eggs and milk daily vs. sparingly or not at all: 3.6 times
Average U.S. man's risk of death from heart attack: 50 percent
Risk of average U.S. man who eats no meat: 15 percent
Risk of average U.S. man who eats no meat, dairy or eggs: 4 percent
Amount you reduce risk of heart attack if you reduce consumption of meat, dairy and eggs by 10 percent: 9 percent
Amount you reduce risk of heart attack if you reduce consumption by 50 percent: 45 percent
Amount you reduce risk if you eliminate meat, dairy and eggs from your diet: 90 percent
Average cholesterol level of people eating meat-centered-diet: 210 mg/dl
Chance of dying from heart disease if you are male and your blood cholesterol level is 210 mg/dl: greater than 50 percent
Cow's milk is the number one allergic food in this country. It has been well documented as a cause in diarrhea, cramps, bloating, gas, gastrointestinal bleeding, iron-deficiency anemia, skin rashes, atherosclerosis, and acne. It is the primary cause of recurrent ear infections in children. It has also been linked to insulin dependent diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, infertility, and leukemia.
The best reason of all to become vegan is knowing that you are saving animal and human lives. The video "Through Glass Walls" on meat.org will show you what you are eating/drinking when not vegan. Knowing you are not supporting this by being vegan is worth it in every way. You save human lives because with the amount of grains it takes to feed an animal for human consumption, you could feed 5 times as many people by feeding the people the grains directly which is also much healthier for them.
As far as health benefits again though, more cancer has been proven to be caused by meat than cigarettes. A factory farm for pigs was also where the swine flu started...due to people eating the meat. Bird flu also came from eating poultry.
Here is just some of the evidence to show that veganism is in fact healthier:)|||I have been vegan for 8 years and am perfectly healthy. I went vegan to save animals which is a good reason. It is also healthy when done properly because there is no cholesterol and it is a pretty low fat diet. You get a lot of vegetables, fiber, and whole grains which are important. Not only is it healthy for yourself it is also good for the animals and the environment. I find it pretty easy to go out to eat and to shop at the store. Many stores have a lot of vegan options and I love to cook so I do not mind preparing meals. I believe a vegan diet is very healthy just make sure you get all the nutrients you need just like with any diet. So the benefits are it is a low fat/good fat diet, good for you, the animals, and the environment, no cholesterol or all that bad stuff from animal products. Also, it is very easy to be vegan so that's a benefit! And the greatest benefit of all is you get to save animals' lives. That is what makes it worth it to me.|||A vegan diet is the healthiest type of vegetarian diet, because eggs and dairy are high in fat and cholesterol.
With that being said, both diets are healthy, if planned properly.
The downside to being a vegan is that it is not convenient.
You will have to cook most of your meals, because most restaurants and grocery stores don't accomodate vegans.
You can get all of your nutrients your body needs through a vegan diet.
The key is to look up foods that are high in protein, iron, calcium, vitamin b12, zinc, etc. and you'll be fine.
Fruits, vegetables, legumes, pasta, cereal, rice or soymilk, and imitation meats are great for a vegan diet.
Ener-g egg replacer can be used for baking. Agave nectar is an alternative to honey. Scrambled tofu is an alternative to eggs. Amy's Kitchen makes a great vegan macaroni & cheese t.v. dinner. They sell it at some whole food stores/health food markets. For holidays, Tofurky dinner roast and Morningstar Farms vegan riblets are good.|||It's healthy (contrary to the opinions of the ignorant and unresearched).
It's natural (we're all born vegan - we just become accustomed to eating animals and their nasty by-products).
You won't be consuming pus, blood, flesh or urine (some of the above mentioned 'nasty' parts).
Being vegan is better for the animals.
Being vegan is better for the planet.
:)|||Honestly, I was vegetarian for 8 yrs, vegan for 6months. There wasn't much I could eat so I pretty much wasn't eating. During sports practice I passed out, and threw up a lot. Talk to your doctor before you do it. Make sure you have a protein/iron source. I was so anemic that I was forced to start eating meat again, as soon as the doctor says its okay I'm going back to vegetarianism. I hate the taste of meat. Make sure you do it right or there won't be any benefits. You need your vitamins.|||Best reasons - Healthier life, to save animals and to help save the environment.
Benefits - Healthier life, less chance of getting several diseases, healthier skin and more energy.|||If you're the type who puts animals' needs above those of human beings, then you'll just continue the cycle. Not much of a benefit there.|||their is no benefit you need meat to help your body
Not currently. One source is from 2003, but I don't think things have changed. Here's what WIC currently has at their site regarding substitutions:
http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/benefitsands鈥?/a>|||WIC will not allow you to substitute the cheese for vegan cheese, that is correct. You cannot substitute the eggs. You can substitute the milk with skim, not soy. You can substitute the peanut butter for beans.
I disagree with part of what Tracey said. WIC allows soy infant formula for lactose intolerant babies.
You maybe able to get a friend (not legal or allowed, so do not tell anyone) to trade you for the eggs, milk and cheese. Good luck!|||they don't know anything about veganism|||i am not positive .. but i used to work at a grocery store and i am pretty sure----i think they do let certain things be interchangeable however, you must discuss it with them ahead of time and have it printed on your check prior to going to the store with it.|||Support in what sense?
You can use WIC to buy the needed groceries. If that's what you mean?
Check out the website for details: http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/
Repost.... Oh... Okay I get your question now.
You won't be able to substitute. Not to sound like a conspiracy theory nut, but I think the farmer's have a strong lobby where you're locked into the standard foods.|||Absolutely not. I am on WIC and have been for about a year. My son is 6 months old, and currently on a lactose free soy formula. That is the only version of veganism they will support. They only allow to to buy items specifically printed on the WIC checks, and all of them are either dairy or dairy based, and they will not accept substitutes. They won't even think about it lol.
However, in California, there is a proposed change in the toddler package that does include fresh fruits and vegetables, as well as a soy check that can be used for either tofu or soy milk. It has not been passed, but it's a near future possibility.|||WIC provides food that is in the best interest of the baby. If you don't agree with what they give, don't sign up. It's not mandatory that you take food from the government.|||This is according to their website:
"Currently, soy and rice-based beverages are not approved substitutes for cow鈥檚 milk in the WIC food package. All milks authorized in the WIC Program must meet the Food and Drug Administration鈥檚 standard of identity for milk. Soy and rice beverages do not."
And... "only cheese is an acceptable substitute for milk."
They allow other substitutions only if a participant is allergic to certain foods. I'm sure, though, that there are plenty of vegan foods on the approved list in every state. You'll need to call your nearest WIC office to get the approved list.|||not really.....this is a gov program therefore only totally supportive of mass brainwashed industry.....diary industry and mass produced cheap eggs
i am on WIC program and only pick and choose what i want to use on the coupons
not to say that the dieticians at the clinics are not supportive of a veggie lifestyle but many are not and have been brainwashed into believing that we need diary to be healthy|||WIC will not allow you to substitute the cheese for vegan cheese, if that is what you are asking. If you are allergic to milk, they will let you get soy milk.|||http://www.frac.org/html/news/newWICpack鈥?/a>
They don't allow substitutions, but they're working on updating the vouchers. The above is from August of last year. You can see the link to the actual record on that site, but it was a good summary.
Hopefully the other proposed changes are implemented.
The new plan actually reduces allowances for egg and dairy, and adds a soy milk/tofu category.
So far, I've seen the Farmers market portion enabled. Many vendors are WIC approved, so you can buy fresh produce from them via WIC.
I've met none. So weird that this protein deficiency thing is such a problem (according to people who have never researched veganism) yet I haven't met a single vegan with a protein deficiency. Maybe I'm just meeting the lucky ones. ;)|||It is extremely easy to get adequate protein on a vegan diet and very rare for protein deficiencies to occur in places where people have access to a variety of plant foods. Protein deficiencies occur primarily in places where people don't have much access to food and they don't eat much variety (for example, they only eat rice).|||Notice how you ignored my personal experience and went with someone who accept your narrow view which also has been give no sources, only anecdotal evidence... Report Abuse
|||Yes you have met the lucky ones...the ones who live in the West where food choices never farther than the nearest grocery and are not a daily struggle for survival.. I have met many people with protein deficiency.. they too live on a " vegan" diet not because they choose to but because there is nothing else to eat.. It was on the local news last week that 8 family members of an indigenous tribe died after eating wild yams.. the yams are edible but only if properly cooked.. a local feeding program started supplementing the diet of the surviving younger children with a milk formula and the rest with meat (mainly fish and chicken) and rice
By the way, you cannot physically tell if a person has protein deficiency unless it is severe as in concentration camp/POW camp severe..|||None that i am aware of.|||None. As long as you are a proper vegan who has a well balanced diet there is no reason to have protein deficiency.|||The only people who develop protein deficiencies are people who live in poor countries and anorexics. An anorexic chimed in and someone mentioned the third world country.|||haha thats a really good point. no i never met anyone with a protein deficiency.
people with PROTEIN deficiency have kwashiorkor its easy to identify they have bloated stomachs from edema. i don't think anyone in usa or europe has had that in 250 years.|||Um, little girl, you may not meet people with protein deficiencies in the western world because we have one of the richest soil and our diets consist of a variety of foods. But Protein deficiency is a serious cause of ill health and death in developing countries. It is extremely rare to meet one most especially in the U.S. or Canada. Protein deficiency plays a part in the disease kwashiorkor, an acute form of childhood protein-energy malnutrition characterized by edema, irritability, anorexia, ulcerating dermatoses, and an enlarged liver with fatty infiltrates. War, famine, overpopulation and other factors can increase rates of malnutrition and protein deficiency. Protein deficiency can lead to reduced intelligence or mental retardation, see deficiency in proteins, fats, carbohydrates.
In countries that suffer from widespread protein deficiency, food is generally full of plant fibers, which makes adequate energy and protein consumption very difficult[citation needed]. Protein deficiency is generally caused by lack of total food energy, making it an issue of not getting food in total. Symptoms of kwashiorkor include apathy, diarrhoea, inactivity, failure to grow, flaky skin, fatty liver, and edema of the belly and legs. This edema is explained by the normal functioning of proteins in fluid balance and lipoprotein transport.
Moringa trees are known to overcome protein deficiency in developing countries as the leaves and other parts of the tree contain comparably to soy bean high amount of crude proteins and amino acids.
http://www.nutrition-partner.com/index.c鈥?/a>
Dr. Latham, director of the Program in International Nutrition at Cornell University claims that malnutrition is a frequent cause of death and disease in third world countries. Protein-energy malnutrition (PEM) affects 500 million people and kills 10 million annually!!!! Does this not sound like a lot to you!!! In severe cases white blood cell numbers decline and the ability of leukocytes to fight infection decreases.|||The experienced vegans I've met were all so thin, and seemed to get shorter and more hunched much quicker with age.|||Ummm... Me...
So you fail.
When i went vegetarian it failed because i ended up with a protein and iron deficiency.
I am seriously considering relocating from the midwest (Milwaukee) to some other part of the country. I'm looking for a place that's got a decent punk scene and lots of folks into the enviroment/animal rights/veganism. I also like doing "natural stuff" such as camping, hiking, biking, etc. I tend to gravitate towards the weather that's found either on the west coast, northwest coast or the west, but I'm open to pretty much anywhere. I'm looking for a place that's got decent public transportation or a good bike community, since the cost of driving is getting crazy. Being able to find a decent job and reasonable housing would also help! Hopefully, some place like this exists. I have spent my entire life here and I'm looking for a change!|||Without a doubt if you can't make it to Glasgow Scotland, then move to Ocean Beach in San Diego. As far as the vegan/animal rights/ stuff goes, there is no better place, san diego is an awesome place, I lived there for five years and am in the process of trying to relocate back there myself, Everyone in san diego says that "O-beacians", are on a totally different wavelink than most other communities, everyone is really laid back, it's animal friendly and Newport Avenue has some of the best bars I've ever been too, the punk scene in SD rocks, check out the Confederats, my brother in law's band, there great.
This girl was put on a strict vegan diet, and ended up with a degenerative bone disease that left her with the spine of an 80 year old:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk鈥?/a>
I understand the philosophy of veganism, and I am interested, BUT people do come first. How could this girl's diet have been structured safely and still be considered vegan?|||She didn't end up with rickets because she was vegan, she ended up with rickets because her parents didn't bother to see to her vitamin D intake. There's a big difference.
The American Dietitic Association and the Dietitians of Canada agree that a properly planned vegan diet is appropriate for ALL life stages, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence.
It's the reponsibility of all parents to make sure that their children are getting the nutrition they need, regardless of the diet they've chosen for their families. A few isolated cases of malnutrition splashed all over the media should not constitute an indictment for a dietary plan that nutrition experts approve of. What the general public never hears about is the thousands of perfectly healthy vegan kids. I know four vegan kids personally ranging from 3-14; their parents are informed and responsible and the kids are happy, healthy and thriving.
I don't know all of the details of this particular case so I don't know if there were deficiencies beyond vitamin D, but that's all that was covered in the story. In that case, since she lived in Glasgow, which is too far north to get the necessary sunshine to form vitamin D most of the year, her parents could have added fortified foods or a supplement to her diet. Note that dairy products do NOT naturally have vitamin D. Rickets used to be a common problem. Vitamin D and calcium work best in conjunction and government officials needed a vehicle for getting sufficient vitamin D into children's diet, so they chose milk because it already had the calcium and most children drink it regularly. There's no reason, knowing those facts, that a vegan child drinking fortified plant milk would be any different than an omnivore child drinking fortified animal milk.|||I have a 4 year vegan old girl who started walking at 9 1/2 months. She was breast feed until she was 19 months. She can walk nearly five miles. She has better than average dexterity and balance than her peers. She does not want to be carried or go places in the car. She wants to walk or go on bikes. We are very aware of what she eats. We have talked with her doctor about her diet.
There are 1000's of cases of malnutrition of children that eat meat.
Do you think formula is good for infants?
What parents that feed their children McDonald's and fried foods everyday?
The simple fact is you are not comfortable with my lifestyle because you are ignorant of it.
Have you ever posted on the fact that in the USA that over 50% of the population is overweight?
Are concerned that this major health concern is now effecting children and infants?
I doubt that you post on these facts.
Are you aware of any other cases besides the one you site here? These cases are very rare. A good parent takes the time to make sure their child(ren) get what they need. Stay out of my life.|||I have two children who are 19 months old, and almost 3 yrs old, and they have eaten a WELL PLANNED vegan diet since birth. They are very healthy, and on target for growth, and other milestones, and are by no means under nurished. Their pediatrician (who is a meat eater)said that are children are eatting a perfectly healthy diet, and are not deficient in any areas.
Situations like the one you sited happen because some parents (whether they are vegan or meat-eaters) do not take the time to plan a healthy diet for their children, and make sure they are getting all of the nutrients they need. For example, a few years ago a five year old boy developed scurvy because his parents allowed him to eat a diet of pizza and pop tarts. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0鈥?/a>
The girl you mentioned could have gotten vitamin D by just spending some time in the sunshine, or from fortified soy or rice milks, or from a vitamin suppliment.|||This a what you would all neglect. They had been around the girl for the past 12 years, it should be pretty easy to see that she "had the spine of an 80-year old". Why was nothing done until now?
Like someone said, when an omni child develops a severe deficiency it's called malnutrition. When a vegan child gets sick o dies, they just call it veganism and everyone talks about how right they are to not be "normal".
The girl had rickets caused by lack of vitamin D. How stupid is that? You can make your own just by being in the sun and there are countless fortified foods that can offer it.
Sorry, this article has nothing to do with vegan diets and everything to do with sh!tty parenting.|||A well-balanced vegan diet is completely safe for children.
http://www.vegansociety.com/people/lifes鈥?/a>
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/kids.htm
The girl in this article suffered from rickets, a condition that is caused by a lack of vitamin D. The main source of vitamin D for all humans (vegan, vegetarian, or omnivore) is the sun. Not fish liver, THE SUN. Very few foods actually contain vitamin D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18088鈥?/a>
In areas such as Scotland (where this girl lives) many people do not get enough sun exposure to make sufficient amounts of vitamin D. For this reason cows milk is often fortified with vitamin D. Vegans do not drink cows milk; however, there are many other fortified vegan products available such as margarine and non-dairy milks. If fortified cows milk is an acceptable dietary source of vitamin D, then it follows that fortified soy milk is also an acceptable source. Fortified foods provide most of the vitamin D in the American diet.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15585鈥?/a>
Ruling out the possibility of a genetic condition which prevents vitamin D absorption, the fact that this girl developed rickets may be a result of bad parenting BUT it is not a result of a vegan diet.
Vegan parents, just like other parents have a responsibility to ensure that their children eat well and get all the nutrients they need. And, yes... in this case it appears the poor child's parents failed to do this. However, the majority of vegan parents are careful to ensure their children eat a healthy diet.
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/real鈥?/a>
To keep things in perspective: There are many more omnivore children with diet related health issues than vegan children. You only need to look at the rising statistics of obese children worldwide. I wonder how many of those children are vegan?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/articl鈥?/a>|||it is difficult, if not impossible for children to grow in a normal and healthy manner when following a vegan diet. they simply cant get enough nutrients. even with supplements, diets that are vegan are extremely dangerous for young children
in my opinion, children should be fed well rounded diets that are healthy, and then be allowed to make their own choices later when it is safe to cut out meat and animal products. its not fair for a parent to subject their child to poor growth and ill health because of their stance on animal rights (what about human rights ???)
I'm a vegan. And I think that people have the ultimate descision on what they eat, but why would someone choose fruitarianism over veganism? I mean veganism is 100% animal-free, so why would people want to just eat fruit, nuts, and seeds? Is it one of the healthiest diets or something?|||Unfortunately, eating only fruits is lacking a lot of essential vitamins, so being a vegan is good enough. Some say they don't want the vegetables to suffer pain while being grown and pulled out. Fruits are grown from plants so it's basically the same. In the food chain, living things suffer pain. To answer your question, it is less healthy as you can still get carbohydrates easier as a vegan than as a fruititarian. I hope I helped, I recommend staying with veganism.|||not true. fruits have everything u need. but u will probably experience major detox symptoms. ride them out. ur on ur way to amazing health and regeneration. read Arnold Ehret rational fasting, it's free on google books Report Abuse
|||because they believe that taking the leafs hurts the plants (& taking the roots kills the plants), but the fruit was designed to fall of the plant & spread the seeds. i know some very healthy fruitarians ( see link below). richard blackman in particular is a fruitarian fitness coach. fruitarianism is a sub branch of raw foodism which recognises that cooking food kills the living enzymes in the fruits & vegetables.|||Most of the people that follow a frugivore diet long-term do so for spiritual reasons. Some Buddhist sects, for instance, believe that to take any form of life is morally incorrect, so the only moral method of subsistence is to consume only fruit that has already fallen.
There are some people that also believe it's a pure diet free of toxins, but I think we all know only eating fruit, nuts and seeds is a bad idea, health-wise.|||Veganism allows for the eating of cooked foods, fruitarianism lends itself more to raw foodism. Raw foodists believe that the enzymes of food are destroyed if heated so eat only raw or dehydrated foods. From my experience, fruitarians are not only seeking vegan food, but raw food also. There is much information on the net about raw food, search for Victoria Boutenko, David Wolfe and Kevin Gianni.|||Fruitarians usually avoid vegetables because harvesting vegetables kills the plant. Harvesting fruits doesn't kill the plant. They also avoid cooked foods because heating food kills many healthy nutrients.
Others are striving for the diet of Adam and Eve. Have you ever heard the quote "And God said, 鈥淏ehold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food."? Every seed-bearing plant is fruit. So many fruitarians believe that is what they should be eating.|||Because they are concerned about hurting plants. :3|||tastes better
Or would they cast aside their pathetic facade in favor of self-preservation?
Veganism is only able to exist because of the non-sentience of plants. Think about that. If animals were our only source of food, would people give a damn about eating meat?
In other words, Veganism exists because it is convenient.
If such a declaration was made about planet sentience, how long do you think it would take for the vegan movement to crumble?|||well it has been proven by history that most people will compromise their standards in order to survive.
It is against most people's principles to eat family members and friends - however the survivors of the plane crash in the Andes resorted to eating the human flesh of the deceased in order to survive.
What a strange way for you to point out an understandable human contradiction.
Under what circumstances would you starve to death?|||Vegan's only exists because the society/technology we have today allows for it to occur on a large scale without health risks.
The fact that without companies producing food items from fungi (Like Quorn) you will find many people would get sick or have reduced healthiness due to the lack of vital components such as protein which is not found in large quantities within plants.
Not to mention the amount of food you need to eat in order to attain the daily amount of energy will have to be high. Look at all the animals that eat plants only, they spend almost all of their day just eating because plants only provide small amounts of energy. It would be the same for people without the supplements they are able to take and when people eat a lot of plants they can have stomach pains and diarrhoea.
Basically if you put them on an island or God forbid the world got messed up somehow and we revert back to the dark ages they will be jumping right back on meat in no time.|||Maybe ethical vegans would, but I'm a vegan for health purposes, and if they were proven to be as alive as animals, it really wouldn't change their nutritional numbers. I still don't get people who hate vegetarians and vegans- why would it bother you? Go eat a steak and try to focus on something else. Better yet, focus your hatred towards Justin Bieber.|||I'm not a vegan, and I don't think I ever could be, but I do know that people who are vegans have a host of different reasons for choosing their diet. Some do it for health reasons, some are concerned with the environment and sustainability.
I also don't think that veganism is "convenient" in any sense of the word. Again, I don't think I could do it. It would narrow my choice of restaurants. It would change the way I travel, shop, and socialize.
I'm not pro-veganism by any means. I could really give a sh&t how other people eat. You clearly care a great deal, though. I wonder why.|||The line separating plants from animals, and the sentient from the non-sentient is a pretty nebulous boundary. They would probably fall back on that old, "anything without a face" designation. So that means, if I should suffer a serious accident or cancer, and my face becomes horribly disfigured... !|||Vegans actually already give up their principles to an extent. Any time you buy tofu, corn, wheat, whatever from a grocery store, you contribute to animal death.
Ever seen a combine harvester? Look it up on google images. Its basically a bigass tractor with a bunch of blades on it. Want to guess what happens any time a cute little bunny rabbit family is caught up in those blades? I'll give you a hint:it dies.
Also, to make room for that grocery store, a forest had to be cut down, and because of that, many animals died because they lost their habitat. Deer, foxes, bears, birds, wolves, all sorts of beautiful animals.
If someone eats nothing but beef, at least they aren't killing any rabbits. Which would you rather have die?
these:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2146鈥?/a>
http://www.eglobe1.com/word/wp-content/i鈥?/a>
or these
http://co2calculator.files.wordpress.com鈥?/a>
http://calvinscl.files.wordpress.com/200鈥?/a>|||I guess members of peta would just keep on eating their own feces in a never ending cycle of self righteousness.|||It would take exactly 30.7 days before they would all give in.|||They could always eat dirt; it's full of minerals.|||One could only hope.
India,and I'm proud to be an Indian because of this. :)|||There are no vegans in India. Indians do not practice veganism. Veganism was invented in the West. Some Indians may live on a vegan diet but they are not vegans.
The country with the most outbreak of vegans per capita is the UK with an estimated 1-2% of the population calling themselves vegan. The US only has less than 1% of the population calling themselves vegan.
And many so called vegans switch back and forth anyway as the fads dictate.|||I always thought it was England. India has a huge population of vegetarians, but not vegans.|||Uranus|||India..|||Probably India since they're all Hindu.|||Don't feed trolls. Reported.|||whichever is the most intelligent|||Don't reply to the troll, report him.
I am wondering what kinds of chemicals and pesticides are used in the production of red meat. I am researching, for schoo, how vegetarianism/veganism effects the environment. I already red meat know is fairly unhealthy, but how much more unhealthy is it with the chemicals used during/after the production of the meat, and how much/many of the chemicals make it to the finished product on my dinner table?|||carbon monoxide, for one....
carbon monoxide is a poison that restricts the body's ability to absorb oxygen into the bloodstream. carbon monoxide can even kill someone if they get too much of it at once.
it is used to keep meat from looking spoiled. if you take a piece of meat that has been treated with carbon monoxide and one that hasn't, the one that has been treated with the chemical will look fresh long after the other has turned green. gross to think that people eat meat that would be spoiled and green without chemicals injected into it, isn't it??
Only people that have experience with veganism to answer. What are the health benefits to becoming vegan. Please include: mental, emotional, physical, sexual, etc.|||I have been a vegan from a year ago.
I'm so satisfied with my body and emotion right now.
Actually, I am satisfied with everyday!|||As for mental/emotional, I think I would definitely consider it positive. You could know that you are not causing any suffering, etc. and should be much happier with yourself. Physically, it would depend on how well you manage your diet. It can have health benefits, such as lower heart disease, lower cholesterol, less chemicals ingested from the meats, and stuff like that. But if you do it wrong, it could cause health problems. You have to be careful to be sure and get all of your vitamins and such, or it could be a bad thing. As for sexual, it is often hard to find means of a birth control system in the way of veganism, considering almost all medicines are required to be tested on animals and most pills have a form of animal products in them. But if you are able to control your diet that much, your sex drive shouldn't be too hard to control.|||you can lose a lot of weight. if you not careful you can end up being underweight.
Ok I want to go Vegan. Soy Milk is fine i prefer it. My problem is cheese to soy cheese. Because soy cheese is actually disgusting. Does anyone know a decent type of soy cheese in the UK or is it all the same. I had Pure SOYa cheese which just tastes like clay :S is it a thing I will have to face? or is there nice soy cheese in the UK? :S|||I agree, Pure Soya cheese is disgusting.
Try the Redwoods Cheezly varieties; you can get them in Holland & Barrett or other health food shops, and some supermarkets - Waitrose and Tesco certanly - stock the cheddar version.
Or you can order them online from Redwoods. The melting ones really do melt and they aren't a bad substitute. They've recently introduced a non-soya cheese too.
http://redwoodfoods.co.uk/index.php?page鈥?/a>|||omg the worst soy cheese ever is in amys soy macncheese its literally green gray.
anyway on this website
http://www.cosmosveganshoppe.com/Merchan鈥?/a>
u can c some good vegan cheeses like
"Sheese" Vegan Cheese Alternative By Bute Island Foods
Price: $6.95
Parma Zaan Sprinkles By Vegetarian Express
Price: $6.95
Parma! Vegan Parmesan
Price: $4.99
i guess look 4 these 2 parmesans n
sheese in mozzarella n medium cheddar at whole foods.
the most expensive tend to be best.
food that has the Vegan symbol or Kosher symbol n no fish ingredients no dairy is vegan.
or just look 4 these.
Bute Island Foods Sheese
Chicago Soydairy Teese
Daiya
Dr. Cow Tree Nut Cheese
Follow Your Heart Vegan Gourmet
Galaxy Vegan Cheese
Rella Good Cheese VeganRella
Tofutti Soy Cheese Slices
VBites Cheezly
Wayfare We Can't Say It's Cheese
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=jz鈥?/a>
or just 4get about cheese haha.
thats all gluck.|||haha! different from cheese, soy cheese is for be eat together soy souce or mixed with cereal and fruits (choose blueberry, banana, strawberry, chocolate, one of these). not to be eat pure! and have many kinds of soy cheese. i dont know if is the same at your country (many types of soy cheese) but where i live, in japan, its very popular food. and you can eat/put together soy soup too, is nice. try it!:)
you can also check recipes that use soy cheese ;)|||Cheezly ~ you can get lots of different types (chedder, edam etc) Doesn't exactly taste like cheese (do they ever?!) but it's not bad and I know a few non-vegans who eat it because they like it. It took me a while to find a cheese alternative that I actually liked, too.
Don't give up hope, just keep trying, there might be a vegan cheese you like yet :)|||Personally I have never tried a soy cheese that I enjoyed. My advise would be to learn to cook very well. Here is a website that tells you how to make your own soy cheese at home. I bet you could do some fun things with this recipe (add herbs and spices etc)
http://truespies.org/torleymanor/2008/01鈥?/a>
I've been vegetarian for a little while now but would like to make the switch to veganism! Does anybody have any tips for what to eat, wear, etc? Thanks!|||It's really not hard at all!!
I'm vegan and have been so for more than a year, you'll
be surprised how good you feel.
Be sure to get enough protein (my meals are generally
based around protein, whether it be from beans, tofu or
some other source) and be aware of animal products in
food! Know of suffixes and prefixes to watch out for. It's
easy once you get the hang of it, and I have an app on my
phone that lists a lot of ingredients to look out for.
Wear: well, just wear things that don't have suede/leather/silk, etc.
There are several brands that have organic/recyclable materials for
clothing and even though you don't NEED to buy them, as a vegan
I have found myself buying a lot of clothes with those materials.
If I think of any other advice I'll edit this, or you can always message me :)|||wikipedia has information on veganism at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism
vegetarian author john robbins,the man who wrote the ground breaking book "diet for a new america" and other books on vegetarianism has a website on the life and work of vegetarian author john robbins plus other resources at http://www.johnrobbins.info
also try people for the ethical treatment of animals at http://www.peta.org
the friends of animals at http://www.friendsofanimals.org
and vegan world order at http://www.veganworldorder.com
you can also use the phrase "vegan clothing & accessories"
in the search box of amazon at http://www.amazon.com
for vegan recipes try The One Word A Search Idea with words such as: quick, easy, raw, protein, breakfast, fruit, snack, lunch, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, greens, grains, lentils, legumes, dinner, casserole, souffle, soy, tofu, dessert,and smoothie in the search box of vegetarian times at http://www.vegetariantimes.com
[also click onto the vegan box]
and also try the vegan website veg web at http://vegweb.com
for information on the vegan and vegetarian restaurants in and
around the area where you live go to happy cow at http://www.happycow.net|||If it's something you believe in and feel strongly about, it's easy.
I went vegan in November and it was the best thing I ever did, despite not having support from most of my friends and family.
My best tip is to make your own foods as much as possible. Almost everything that's packaged contains animal products. I've even seen lactose in one brand of potato chips (to make them more "creamy" apparently).
Check out the website below for some great recipes and tips.|||The first couple of months are hard, after that its pretty much plain sailing. Ordering in restaurants and travel can be a pain though.
I'm considering going vegan, and I need some motivation, I am already a vegetarian, so I dont need you to tell me about vegetarianism, just veganism. Thanks!
If you could also, it would be great if you could give me some links to sites for vegan teens.|||2 main things are eggs and dairy. So I'll just focus on these two things, otherwise it'll be too long. But there is a whole lot more.
Because dairy production places massive environmental stresses on the planet. Each dairy cow produces 28,000L of waste water per cow per year (dairy shed effluent management guidelines Aust). This waste water comes from processing, runnoff, urine, yard and equipment washdown, plate cooling. It is a rather conservative estimate too, since it doesn't include the water required for feed or crop irrigation, or the water consumed by each head of cattle.
Cows produce between 250 to 500L of methane per cow per day (journal of animal science). Methane is a green house gas that contributes to global warming. Methane is also 23 times more potent than carbon dioxide. (new york times)
Dairy production requires waste lagoons for storing large volumes of untreated excrement and liquid waste. This waste has the potential to run off and pollute streams, ground water, soil, plants ect.
Also milk contributes to unnecessary death and suffering. Just like humans cows only lactate a few months after birth. For cows to produce a constant supply of milk they must be continually artificially inseminated and give birth. Their babies are taken away from them soon after they are born. If they are male they will be trapped in veal crates, fed an anaemic diet and confined in darkness and eventually killed. If they are female they will go on to also be dairy cows (or more correctly milk machines). This separation causes distress to both mother and calf. Drinking milk supports the veal industry. Cows are also pumped with hormones and antibiotics to increase milk production. This often leads to mastitius, a painful infection of the udders. Constant milk production leaches calcium from cow's bones leaving them eventually lame or crippled. Milk is produced to nourish calves, not human. We are essentially stealing nutrients from baby animals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr-EyIaXA鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_u鈥?/a>
That鈥檚 just dairy. (I did a research project on the environmental impacts of dairy farming which I would be happy to share with you)
Egg laying hens are tortured, debeaked, force moulted, crammed with between 4 and 12 other birds, stacked in crates, thrown, covered in one another鈥檚 excrement, suffer from painful cuts and lacerations due to sharp wire cages, male chicks are killed and considered an industry waste product, they have less than an A4 piece of paper in which to live, they never see the light of day, and are never allowed to exhibit natural behaviour.
(battery hens living conditions)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_R5sGHI鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8Q7ZN1I鈥?/a>|||Hello Beth :)
I found some sites on why you should go vegan - it has to do with animals, environment and your health
http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/why_鈥?/a>
http://library.thinkquest.org/20922/who_鈥?/a>
http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/p鈥?/a>
Oh and read this
http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Vegan
It gives you some tips and warnings :)
I hope I helped
Good luck and I support your idea!|||the benefits for the animals are that some of them won't be killed for you. (Though the more vegans, the less animals are actually bred, so you've stopped a life before it started rather than end a life)
The benfits for you are that you will never risk an Iron overdose. Aside from that, I think it's all negative.|||Animals:
Going vegan is a powerful way to oppose the cruelties in the egg and dairy industries. An egg-laying hen must spend over 24 hours confined to a tiny battery cage in order to produce just one egg. Even on "free range" farms, the hens are slaughtered after one or two years and the male chicks are killed, usually by suffocation or being thrown into grinders. So you would prevent SO much suffering by not eating eggs! You also wouldn't contribute to the veal industry. (Dairy farms have no use for the male calves born to dairy cows, so they send the calves to veal farms.)
Health:
Vegan diets are cholesterol-free since cholesterol is only found in animal products like meat, eggs, and dairy. I found it easier to lose weight after I went vegan. I rarely get sick and generally have a lot of energy.
Environment:
A completely plant-based diet is more efficient than one that includes animal products. It doesn't require as much land, food, energy, or water. A major report by the University of Chicago in 2006 found that adopting a vegan diet has a greater impact in the fight against global warming than switching to a hybrid car does.
http://www.goveg.com/environment-wycd-fo鈥?/a>
Hope this helps!|||Well...it's pretty much for the same reasons i.e. about cruelty-free lifestyle, for the welfare of animals, for our environment through reduction of resources, and for health reason as animal fats and proteins have been linked to heart disease, colon and lung cancer, osteoporosis, diabetes, kidney disease, hypertension, obesity, and a number of other debilitating conditions. Cows' milk contains ideal amounts of fat and protein for young calves, but far too much for humans.
Hope this answers your question.
God bless:)|||for you, there are certain nutrional things that are in meat that you need, for animals, of course they get to live, the environment because the animals not eaten each have a job to do in our world, but not eating them can cause an overpopulation of one specific speices. hope i helped.
nellie|||There are ups and downs for it, as there is with all diets. But for the animals and environment there are virtually none. Whatever you don't, eat others will.|||I guess you wouldn't have to worry about guys hitting on you all the time. Wouldn't have to worry about shaving your legs or having children.|||goveg.com
they have recipes, facts, benfits and so forth about veganism
Congrats on your choice!|||If the animals had voices they would thank you for it! =)|||For one thing, you're not killing animals. And whoever says that you're killing as life before it has begun is ridiculous. IF the animal was actually born it would have a 95% chance of suffering it's entire life solely for the purpose of human pleasure.
Now, I'm not sure about what minerals your body is being deprived of if you were to become vegan, but saying that there is no substitute for meat/the human body cannot thrive off of meat is completely bogus and just an excuse for those who don't want to turn vegan/vegetarian. Now I'm not saying that all human omnivours all think like that, you just shouldn't be doubtful that there is no way for you to substitute for meat. One example is tofu/any other soybean products. If I'm not mistaken, that should be one solution to substituting meat.
Finally and probably most importantly, hormones in meat have been heavily linked to breast cancer in women and I have no doubt any other cancer as well. The way farms inject chemicals into their animals and treat them, it's not surprising. Bottom line: red meat is SO BAD for you! Don't eat it! Also, milk comes from cows, right? Milk also has heavy amounts of hormones in it. Veganism will eliminate that nasty milk from your diet. (Again, soy milk is a good substitute.)
Now that I have shared with you everything I believe about veganism in general, may I make one CHEATING suggestion? I suggest you eat fish. If you live strictly off of soy you'll be getting your body what it needs but if soy is too hard for you, I would highly consider eating fish. You hear all this stuff about mercury poison and I don't doubt it's true, but eating a healthy does of wild fish regularly is quite good for you.
The final thing that you'll want to consider about vegetarianism/veganism is that you feel great! It's hard in the beginning but after you stick with it, you'll realize that you don't miss meat and that you'll love the feeling so much. It's kinda like aftre a good session of yoga if you've ever taken one, you feel MARVELOUS! I hope this helped you in some way. Like I said, I'm no expert with mineral deficiencies and what the body needs medically speaking, I just know what it feels like to be a non-meat/dairy eater. I don't regret it at all!
Given the way way *some* vegans treat their lifestyle as if it was a holy doctrine, yes. Though maybe a more philosophy driven religion than a deity driven one.|||no. religion= belief in or reverence for a supernatural power. veganism can be a component of religion but not a religion itself.|||a religion is the belief of a higher power.
what higher power is there in veganism?|||No in itself. It is a dietary choice. It can be based in religious practices on not harming animals or on whole body beliefs.|||Yep...|||no
I'm doing research about vegetarianism for a workshop at the local community centre and I need more information about this lifestyle. I'd also like to know what veganism is and how it differs from vegetarianism. A few website resources would be great!|||Vegetarians don't eat meat. Vegans don't eat meat and don't bother to bathe.|||Use the Yahoo search engine and just type in vegan. You will find everything you want to know.|||Pure vegans, as mentioned, have nothing to do with animal products. Vegetarians don't eat meat, but will eat dairy, eggs, things that didn't require harm to the animal to get. A few will eat fish, but then their choice of food is more for health reasons than philosophy.
I understand vegetarians, but true vegans always seemed to me to be overdoing it. We have cows, they need to be milked. And we are omnivores, after all. I can understand being against anything requiring the slaughter of animals, but cheese and eggs? Nevertheless, that's their choice.|||Here are several links that should be helpful:
lowcalories.blogspot.com
intuitivefred888.blogspot.com
indyhumes.blogspot.com
gscookingblog.blogspot.com
thephilosophycafe.blogspot.com
lifeisbeautym.blogspot.com
my-healthy-eating.blogspot.com
adwin-kianhui.blogspot.com
meadvilleveggie.blogspot.com
slashmaraud.blogspot.com
foodminds.blogspot.com
callendamornen.blogspot.com
kin-jay.blogspot.com
mercurior.blogspot.com
masanobutaniguchi.blogspot.com|||Vegetarians will eat products derived from animals; i.e. milk, eggs, etc...
Vegans want nothing to do with anything that exploits animals, so no milk, eggs, etc... Also some vegans refuse honey though not all do refrain.|||Vegetarians don't eat meat, either for health reasons, or because of a limited understanding of animla rights implications.
Vegans don't consume meat, eggs, dairy, or anything containing animal products, like gelatin, whey, or casein. Veans don鈥檛 wear leather, fur, or wool, buy products from companies that conduct non-required animal toxicity tests:
http://www.caringconsumer.com/pdfs/compa鈥?/a>
Or frequent zoos, rodeos, circuses, or other places where animals are held in captivity or forced to perform.|||http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetariani鈥?/a>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism|||they dont eat cheese|||Vegan, no animal products at all.
No honey, because bees die making it.
Beer is OK, even though yeast is actually micro animals who die making it.
Vegetarians come in various shades.
Some eat eggs and milk, some not.
Some "vegetarians" eat a fish now and then
because it's a "lower animal".
Some will eat your turkey because it's polite or practical., but are strict at home.|||"Veganism may be defined as a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as possible and practical, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.
In dietary terms it refers to the practice of dispensing with *all* animal products - including meat, fish, poultry, eggs, animal milks, honey, and their derivatives.
Vegetarianism includes veganism and is defined as the practice of not eating meat, poultry or fish or their by-products, with or without the use of dairy products or eggs.
Often broken down further into OVO-LACTO, and LACTO. Vegetarians may or may not try and minimize their non food use of animals like vegans.
Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian: same as VEGAN (see right), but also eats eggs and milk products. This is the most 'popular' form of Vegetarianism in many Western countries..
Lacto Vegetarian: Same as VEGAN, but also eats milk products.
Veggie -- Shortened nick-name for a VEGETARIAN; often includes VEGANs.
Strict vegetarian: originally meant vegan, now can mean vegan or vegetarian."|||Vegans are higher on the retardation spectrum.
Tuesday, March 6, 2012
I have been slowly weaning myself of meat and dairy for about a 6 weeks now, and as of this week have decided to go 100% how long till I notice the great things associated with veganism, e.g. clear skin and eyes, glowing complexion, more energy, weightloss etc? and how long till other things subside while my body is adjusting to my new diet, e.g. gassiness, stronger body odour, sleeplessness, cravings for old stuff etc?? thankyou for sharing your experiences if possible :)|||Great question!
You know, I started the new "blood type diet" which for me, means vegetarian and/or (no pork, beef and chicken)....within a few days I noticed a CHANGE in my body odor and bowels. I had LESS body odor and LESS SMELL in my bowels. Within 2-3 days. I couldn't believe it!
I eat fish (cod, salmon, snapper) and since my intestines are not SLOWED DOWN by pork, beef and chicken SLOWLY moving through my intestines and fermenting/rotting, there is LESS ODOR. I am very happy and pleased.
However, it has been about 2-weeks now and I see no change in my complexion yet, however this may be cosmetic. (I'm still working on it).|||Never|||It will take time to adjust because you will be riding your body of lots of toxins.
Give it about 3 months minimum and if you dont start to see big changes after that then you is probably deficient in something.|||My partner and I have been vegans now for almost 4 months, he has lots loads and loads of weight, his hair is growing fast and looks healthier. I on the other hand, haven't lost any weight, I think I may have added a few pounds, my skin still isn't clear and I don't look like the image of health.
Clear skin isn't just diet related, but hormal.
Clear eyes....depends on the person I guess. Mine are always reddish from hours of using the computer lately :S
Glowing compleion might happen, but a good run would do it too.
More engery might take some time, as you may go through a burst of energy the first few days and then a down fall, and then build more energy again.
Weightloss depends on the person, I didn't have ANY to lose, and my partner had some....so he lost some, and I gained (I think) from eating more oils (I cover everything in olive oil, yum).
I'm still gassy, and doubt this will go away, as I am generally a gassy person, although it isn't foul smelling. The cravings will go away once the meat enzymes leave your body...maybe a month of so? Body odor will change quickly, depending on what you eat. I eat loads of garlic and find I sometimes smell of garlic, hehe. Same happens with spices. Sleeplessness I can't help you with, as there are so many reasons one might not sleep at night, I battle with it.
I hope this gives you an idea of what to expect (and what not to expect). Veganism isn't a miracle diet. Being a vegan doesn't make your compleion flawless and bouding with energy, but it can HELP those things.
:D|||I think you are being a bit too eager! If you shift from one eating habit to another without taking into consideration those nutrients that your body may lack later on, you may get to see worst things as far as your health is concerned. I am not saying that vegan diet is not good, but only that you need to be well-prepared to follow it. After all, this lifestyle has more benefits than disadvantages if you take certain things into consideration. In fact the good results you mentioned are true, but you need to know your deficiencies first, which if you don't pay attention to may well make you lose hope quickly than you may think.
Refer to this website for better notion of deficiencies in vegans.|||Ever see Super Size Me? It took 8 weeks of a strict vegan diet to reverse the damage Morgan Suprlock did to his liver. It took almost 2 years of healthy eating (although not vegan) to get back to his starting weight.|||i wouldn't know i never suffered those problems.|||why would you want to go vegan? you only live once... eat some meat!|||Never. Veganism is a trick by anrachists who want to destroy a vital part of our world's economy!
I really want my family and friends to be healthy and live long, happy lives. I get passionate about veganism and living healthy-I just need to know where that line is, so that I don't cross it and become over whelming.|||Educating is when they ask or willingly listen to what you have to say..
Forcing you beliefs is when express your opinion when not asked and you insist they live their lives according to what you want
Education is a two way street.. "teachers" and "students" willingly listen to each other.. Ask yourself, are you willing to be educated by those whose belief system is different from yours? If you cannot extend that courtesy to them, you have no right to expect some in return. Also, an important part of education is a open mind and a willingness to accept that you may be wrong. Are you open to the idea that al your beliefs can or may be wrong?|||I am the same, if anyone brings up my "Crazy vegan ideas", i get into a heated lecture about animal cruelty and human health. I mean, eating meat supports starvation in Africa, i mean, how could anyone eat a steak with that on their conscience?|||Just stick to facts about veganism rather than say they are wrong. I tell people trying to lose weight that vegetarians/vegans seldom have weight problems, for example.|||If they ask,your educating.
If you tell them about slaughterhouses in the middle of their stake dinner,your preaching.
I used to constantly try to get my family to open their eyes to suffering, but they either didnt care, or had a go at me for ruining their appetite,so I gave up.
Other people ask me about veganism, and are disgusted by the answer I give them.
People handle thinks differently.If they want to be kept in the dark,let them, its not your job to shatter their allusions. You'll still have peace of mind|||I've found that my family are starting to ask more questions about the health benefits of being vegan. I've never pushed anything to them about animals & cruelty because I know they would just get upset or defensive & it wouldn't change their ideas. However, they are very interested in the health benefits. They always mention how healthy I look and they are now buying soy milk.|||This is a good question that I wish more people would ask. I am a vegetarian who was eating once with friends and a girl came up and started going on about them serving meat and how disgusted she was. (she failed to notice I hadn't put meat on my plate) and she went on and on about factory farming....information that spoiled my appetite even without meat on my plate....the moral? Be respectful which you sound like you are trying to do so good job to you. I would love to be vegan someday. Unfortunately I can't make that work right now due to eating from a dining hall most nights. That doesn't mean that I am uneducated either.
The good news is that people can live healthy long lives with and without meat or animal products. If they don't ask, don't tell. If they do want to know about your lifestyle, you can tell them about what you DO eat rather than why you don't eat meat. Have them take a taste of some of your awesome veggie burgers and try those great tasting chickenless nuggets...and who can resist a tofu stirfry?|||Frankly, I find that the answer to your question isn't determined by you, but instead by your audience. It's highly subjective. You can say the same thing with the same amount of passion (or lack thereof) and so on and so forth, and one person will think you're just sharing who you are with them but another person will think you're shoving your beliefs down their throats (no pun intended).
Anyway, so different people will always react according to their nature rather than according to what you say or how you say it. The line you seek is so difficult to find because it constantly moves around.
My best advice would be to pay close attention to them and how they react to small things. Get a feel for your audience and work with that. Maybe see if you can get them to ask the questions you want to give the answers for.
LOL, yeah I know this is kinda vague, but it always is with us humans. We're all so different. A trick I notice my therapist using sometimes is she'll respond to something I say with "Sounds like you..." "Must make you feel like...". Fill in the blanks with whatever sounds good. These sort of statements prompt elaboration from people and help to make them feel understood, which might make them more open to things you have to say.|||In this case, it's whether they ask or not. If someone asks (and isn't just making conversation), and you answer, you are educating them. If someone does not ask, you are definitely forcing your beliefs on them. If you suspect they only asked to be polite, chances are they'll think you're forcing your beliefs on them.
Another vital component is whether you listen to/accept their reasons for eating meat. If you're not accepting their reasoning, even if you think it's stupid/wrong/bad, you are not "educating."|||I'm not vegetarian, but not wanting to hurt animals is just an excuse. People hurt animals by building houses, plowing fields. Even our electricity comes at the expense of animal lives. Vegans say you can live without meat, and apparantly that's true, but you can also survive without houses and electricity. People did it for centuries, living in either tents or caves. And yet, how many vegans are going to give up their houses or their electricity. The reason is because they enjoy them. Just like they claim we meat eaters get enjoyment at the expense of animal lives, they too get enjoyment at the expense of animal lives. If they truly believed what they are saying, they should have not only given up on meat, but on houses and electricity, and even health care as well.|||How's that saying go "you get more bee's with honey than vinegar"
The metaphorical line that your speaking of is : When "they" (the relatives on Thanksgiving)
Start asking you questions about being vegan/veggie. Just answer....period. don't elaborate,or put in your opinion...a brief response is all that's needed.
That's just how you deal with people "ribbing you" and keeping yourself "guarded"
You quote unquote "cross the line" when you start sharing your opinion . Just answer the question, don't give out any opinion on you eating diffrences, let them ask.
I lead by example. When I go places they say I look so freekin' healthy and in shape, my cookin' "skills" are so exotic and "off the chart" by the time I have left I know they will be like "hey maybe I should try this "veggie thing".|||Education is providing information that is asked for. You can't force your beliefs on another adult, if you preach at them they will just avoid you.|||If they ask about it, tell them. Crossing the line is when you bring it up, tell them they "should" or you "wont die as soon" stuff like that, etc.
Be quiet about your beliefs, if they want to change, they will ask you for info|||not diference
[no offense to people who are, but that's what i have to write my speech on]
ok so i'm writing a persuasive speech on why veganism is stupid and i need appeals of logic, emotion, ethics, and facts to back it up!
how do u feel about veganism?
why do u think its dumb or unhealthy or awesome?|||It's not stupid, dumb or unhealthy.
It's just an eating preference.|||Thousands of wild animals die when crops marketed towards vegans are harvested. They're brutally crushed under farming machinery.
These animals were not domesticated and raised in controlled, safe environments like the animals we slaughter.
Is it right to say a small shrew's life isn't equal to a cow or chicken's?
Humans were meant to eat meat. Don't be such a p*ssy about it.|||Vegans are so stupid that they refuse to ride in a car with leather seats. Vegans actually believe that humans are a parasite on Earth (honest). Vegans refuse to believe animals kill and eat each other. Have you EVER seen a vegan that wasn't all yellow and shriveled up? Vegans won't even drink milk. Vegans have a screw loose....|||Personaly I think its stupid.
Any person who doesnt believe in killing animals for food is really not a bright person.
If we didnt kill theese animals, they would take over the human race.
And atleast there not going to waste.
But i think its even more stupid that they wont even eat anything produced by animals.
Its really just..stupid.|||I think its kind of stupid because I like all kinds of food but I guess if thats what someone wants to do, then whatever. But some negative reasons are that you don't always get all the nutritional goodness that other foods provide.|||can't eat animal products... however the vegetables they eat were fertilised by an animal's feces.|||I think it's awesome.
As long as they can get their nutritional needs, what's the harm?|||Well, it lacks meat.
A life without meat, is like a life without sex.|||reason why it is smart:
cow milk is for cows. DURR
people weren't meant to eat chicken and beef. scientifically proven that they are bad for you.
I always have somthing like rice cakes and a cup of tea for breakfast. But my mum keeps telling me I need calcium, this is because im vegan and well to be honast we never buy soy products because none of my family like it, I get my protein from beans/legumes and nuts etc. But im worried about calcium as I am a growing teenager and if im deficient it might be a worry. I dont want to shell out on calcium supplements plus my digestive system is a lil weak, I get indegestion and acid reflux alot, will soy milk help me get my calcium but no intefere with my digestion problem?|||I didn't eat dairy as a child - I couldn't digest it properly - and never had a calcium deficiency. Billions of people in different cultures don't eat dairy normally - Japanese, Chinese, etc. If we really needed breast milk as adults we would still be suckling on our own mothers! There is plenty of calcium in fresh foods - green leafy veges, nuts, fruit, traces of it in just about everything. The whole "you must eat dairy to get calcium" mantra is just a myth propogated by the dairy industry. Just eat real food and you'll be fine. Put some tahini or almond butter on your rice cakes and drink some fresh OJ. Chocolate flavoured soy milk is tasty - but not a great source of calcium unless it is fortified. You're better off just eating tofu which should be mild on your stomach since it is a mild food on its own without strong spices added. Maybe eat small amounts of things to find out what agrees with you.|||Try dark green vegetables like broccoli. Their are other ways to get calcium besides soy, like nuts....12 almonds is your daily calcium intake.
Rice cakes and tea isn't the best start, add some fruit into the morning routine if possible.
I'm not sure why you have indegestion and acid reflux, you might want to talk to your doctor about it, and try not laying down after eating. I don't think soy will play any part in it.|||I have been vegan for nearly a decade and had my calcium levels tested and have never been low. Brocolli and kale are high in calcium and in fact the calcium in dark green vegetables is easier for your body to absorb that dairy sources so you don't even need as much. If your still worried though many brands of soya milk and orange juice are fortified with calcium. Babies need milk but after weening human beings are the only species on the planet that consumes milk of another species so it doesn't make sense. This whole calcium defiency thing is for a large part a myth because dairy products have not been part of many traditional Asian diets (Chinese, Japanese) yet there are much lower incidents of osteoperosis than in Europe or North America. I believe the push on dairy products is a large result of the powerful dairy industry rather than nutritional evidence. You might consult a naturopathic doctor if you have other digestive issues.
I am going there today with my two friends and my boyfriend for prom. I've been there once before with my family but lucky for me, the waitress knew exactly what a vegan was and knew what to get me. I am just worried I might get someone that doesn't know about veganism today. So, what questions do I ask? Should I be worried about the rice? What about how they flavor the tofu? Please help?|||They would surely know what a vegetarian is. Therefore vegans should have no problems either, because dairy products, eggs and honey are not things normally associated with vegetarian sushi. The rice is fine. It's just plain boiled/steamed rice, usually with a little rice-wine vinegar added, then rolled in a nori (seaweed) sheet along with thin strips of something else. With vegetarian sushi, that something else is usually cucumber, avocado, carrot or similar. Nothing to worry about. The soy sauce and wasabi that accompany the sushi are vegan-friendly too. Something else you may be able to order is edamame (soybeans). Bon appetit!|||get a vegetable sushi roll.
lol|||Raw fish.|||Why don't you order the same thing as last time- just remind them you want no animal products in it- meat, milk, or egg? Call ahead of time and it won't be a big deal.
While I believe in vegetarianism, and even veganism, for health, spirtual and nutritional reasons, this is one point I am stuck on. What would the world do with millions of livestock? |||Perhaps nature would take its course?
Of course it would seem like a big problem to have so much cattle in one place but perhaps if the animals were sent to different places around the world it would be less of a cluster. And then of course when placed in their new surrounding the food chain would take over.
Just a guess |||it will never happen so who cares|||Just think about it for a minute. Stop raising animals at an artificially high rate to feed people and they stop reproducing at that same rate. It isn't natural for animals to be reproducing so very constantly. Take away the demand and the supply will not continue to increase. It simply wouldn't be practical.
That's actually one of the easier questions to answer.|||They'd die off until nature resumes its balance. And they would be much less painful and humiliating deaths.|||Livestock are a HUMAN perpetuated population. If we stopped eating them, farmers would stop making money on them, and therefor farmers would stop breeding them.
If we didn't eat beef, there wouldn't be any cattle.
Obviously, if everybody just decided overnight the become veggies, that would be a problem. But I don't find "what if's" that are never going to happen to be relevant.|||They would all be killed anyway, so the best thing would be just to stop breeding them.|||The things normal consumed like cows, chickens, and pigs, are born and bred in captivity for the purpose of consumtion. The animal population would not be greatly affected by a global wave of vegetarianism especially since the animal kingdom is subject to its own preador/prey system. |||Most livestock are raised specifically to be slaughtered. So if there was no demand for them, then farmers and ranchers would not raise them.|||Supply & demand. It wouldn't happen all at once so as the demand dwindled, so would the supply.|||they would all join the unicorns and follow them over the rainbow into the world of your own Imagination.|||animals are artifically inseminated to reproduce for meat. It is unnatural and if we just let nature takes its course it would all work out perfectly
I'm very curious of veganism but not sure if I can switch completely to veganism or try vegetarianism first? I definitely need a strict change especially with processed foods. Any good resources to see whats not good or good to eat or a vegan for dummies maybe?|||"The word 'veganism' denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to end the idea of animals as property and exclude all forms of intentional exploitation of, use of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing, research or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, including people and the environment.
In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
This should give you the info to help start off veganism a lot easier:
Here is a list of animal ingredients to avoid:
http://www.happycow.net/health-animal-in鈥?/a>
More things to avoid:
Animals as clothes:
Leather, skins, furs, wool, silk, down, feathers...
Animals as entertainment:
Circuses, rodeos, zoos, aquariums, animal fights, animal races, hunting...
Companies that DO NOT test on animals(however CHECK INGREDIENTS they only verify testing not ingredients):
http://www.leapingbunny.org/indexcus.php
Vegan products:
http://www.veganstore.com/ (I know them well and they aren't doing as well in this economy but they are a great source for awesome hard to find stuff and they are very friendly and giving even if they really don't have much if anything to give)
http://gentleworld.org/vegan-evolution/p鈥?/a>
Vegan recipes:
http://vegweb.com/
More info on veganism:
http://animal-rights.com/
http://www.vegetus.org/honey/honey.htm (I get the honey question a lot)
http://www.youcanhelpstopthis.com/
Dropkick has the wrong idea. He is right about the ingredients and such but you can easily find all of those products vegan (or you just don't need them to begin with) and if you keep yourself in good health you are less likely to need drugs but sometimes you might and you have to make the right decisions about it. Just because medicine and science have become morally and ethically corrupted in many cases doesn't always have to mean you should keep sick or use their products.|||Go for vegetarian, a true vegan lifestyle is almost impossible to attain in the modern world (most of the people who say they're Vegans either don't know what a Vegan really is or they're lying).
A vegetarian doesn't eat meat, a true or hard-core vegetarian tries to avoid any animal products at all (milk, cheese, eggs, jello, ice cream, honey, etc.).
This is fairly easy to attain and with care can be a very healthy life style (make sure you get enough proteins, fats and the vitamins that your body needs).
- It's a good idea when you start a vegetarian lifestyle to take daily vitamin tablets until your diet stabilizes, and sometimes to continue taking them. And depending on your new diet, a tablespoon of peanut butter or olive oil daily is also often a good thing (fats & protein).
A Vegan doesn't use animal products at all, or products tested on animals.
If you just concentrate on products with animal derived ingredients - this means no leather - shoes, belts, etc., wool, down filled items, nothing dyed red (most red dye is made from ground up bugs (this includes food and candies), store bought cakes, cookies, candies (contains albumen - an animal derived product, or eggs), most cosmetics, vitamins, supplements, shampoos, skin creams, mouthwashes, deodorants, aftershave lotions, perfumes, SOAP (I've always felt this was a very important product), and many, many, more products as they contain one or more of these animal derived ingredients: allantoin, amino acids, alpha-hydroxy, animal fats and oils, arachidonic acid, arachidyl proprionate, benzoic acid, biotin, caprylic acid, biotin, castoreum, etc.
And if you want medical care, your pretty much out of luck, as a tremendous amount of drugs and vaccines come from animals, and almost every medical product has hand animal testing done on it.|||Keep your options symple
complete protein vegetarian style
eggs and cheese help a lot and you do not have to take the lifestyle of vegan.
complete protein for starters this seems to be the hard part
let us keep it simple and give you this thought
beans or legumes + whole grains are complete protein
such as beans of your choice and whole grain rice
peanut butter and bread
these = complete protein
and a second easy way is grains and nuts or seeds of choice
peanut butter and Whole Grain Bread
Oatmeal and walnuts for breakfast|||start by cutting out one specific meat every few weeks, fish/seafood, beef, pork, poultry. that is up to vegetarian. then to go vegan do the same thing but cut out dairy, eggs, any othe animal derived foods. you will have to pay close attention to ingredients. watch out for things containing gelatin.|||being a vegan is very hard because you lose that protein meat gives you, but they're are many substitutes for protein. for instance peanut butter or beans and various legumes. being a vegan also means you avoid ALL products derived from animals, so do some more research on animal products and you will be well on your way.|||Check out PETA and order their free starter kit. Or the free starter kit from PCRM...they are the 2 best sources to get you started.|||try vegetarianism first then after you get used to it give up dairy, then eggs, then everything else|||http://www.peta.org/living/vegetarian-li鈥?/a>
I recently (about two weeks ago) became a vegetarian, and am so glad I did. I've heard a lot of good things about veganism (and a lot of bad things about milk and egg production) and want to try to eat animal by-products less and less, starting with three days a week, I think. So my question is: As a vegan, what do you eat on a typical day? Also, did you do it gradually, or cold turkey? Thank a lot!|||I'm glad that you are making this decision for the animals, not to mention your health, and the environment! =)
On a typical day, here is what I eat..
Breakfast: I always have a protein drink in the morning, along with any of the following,
cereal with soymilk (be sure to check the cereal ingredients)
or toast with Earth Balance (vegan margarine; I use the nonhydrogenated kind) and sugar and cinnamon
or, if I have time, scrambled tofu and pancakes =D mm :) Breakfast is probably my favorite part of the day; I wish I had more time to make it. hehe
Lunch: brown rice with stirfry vegetables
or a sandwich o whole wheat bread (usually consists of Tofurkey, lettuce, tomatoes, Vegenaise [I use the Follow Your Heart brand], and avocado; you can do whatever you'd like)
or sushi (rice, seaweed, avocado, cucumber, carrots, seasoned tofu, and soy sauce to dip it in)
or a peanut butter and banana sandwich on whole wheat bread.
Dinner: whatever my mom's making (my family is vegan)
today I am having pho (vietnamese dish that has noodles and soup, mm)..most of the time we have rice with vegetable dishes and soup, or sometimes we'll have noodles of different varieties. It's probably because I live in an Asian household, haha. For dinner, you can still eat whatever you're used to but just substitute with vegan ingredients; it's not too hard, well it is hard at first, but you get used to it and it is fun to cook, although I don't cook dinner often.
In tenth grade, I became vegan cold turkey, but after the first semester, I started eating cheese again. :(
Afterwards, I gradually started giving up cheese and I really am not sure when I decided that I was going to become 100% vegan, I just remember it was at least a year and a half ago.
Also, the transition was not very hard for me because I already avoided eggs (I was a lacto-vegetarian) and I also hated milk and never drank it...so the only thing that was really hindering me was the cheese. I still miss cheese but some of my cravings are satisfied with the following recipes:
Creamiest Mac'n'Cheez EVER: http://yeahthatveganshit.blogspot.com/20鈥?/a>
Baked Mac'n'Cheez: http://yeahthatveganshit.blogspot.com/20鈥?/a>
You should get this cookbook: http://www.amazon.com/Vegan-Vengeance-De鈥?/a>
(It has a couple of awesome pizza recipes)|||I quit cold turkey. I went from omnivore to vegan overnight.
In a typical day:
PB + cinnamon + banana + whole grain bread
Workout
Post-workout shake (wheat protein isolate + fruit/veggie powder + rice milk + coffee + vegan DHA powder)
Some kind of lunch
Some kind of snack
Some kind of dinner
Typically, I'll have a stir fry, Italian-style pasta dish, or veggie wrap/sandwich for lunch or dinner just because it's easy and portable. Sometimes I'll do a Mexican-style pizza, burgers made with portabello mushroom caps, or some chili. I add a lot of things to my meals to pack in as many nutrients as I can. For example, if I made spaghetti, I'd use buckwheat or quinoa noodles, canned tomatoes, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, yellow squash, kale, zucchini, fresh spinach, fresh basil, fresh bell pepper, fire roasted bell pepper, olives, flax seed...you get the idea. The more nutrition, the better...and that holds true no matter how you choose to eat!
For snacks, it can be anything from a vegan protein/food/snack bar, half sandwich, soup, whatever.|||I did it gradually as I learned about the healthiest diet. I discovered that most convenience foods and processed foods contain additives that can be dangerous to some people. I also discovered that most contained fat, salt, sugars, and artificial ingredients to add to the foods taste and appeal.
The ideal diet from a health perspective is a low-fat, low-refined carb vegan diet. I achieve this by rarely eating at restaurants or eating prepare foods. My diet consists mostly of:
+ The equivalent of one teaspoon of oil, usually eaten as raw nuts.
+ Beans and Brown Rice to provide all the protein building block.
+ Whole grains. (Not bread, because of eggs and other additives.)
+ Vegetables (raw, steamed)
+ Fruits (raw, never juiced or processed. I like the fiber)
This is a very simple diet, and it is very easy to track calories. I'll eat a little bit of anything, but in very modest amounts.
If you have a more typical diet, I'd try to avoid too many fats and sugars. I'd also avoid artificial additives like aspartame, MSG, genetically modified foods, and artificial colorings.|||I was a Vegan for a day, my friend and I decided to try it and let me tell you it was hard. Maybe because I didn't have many Veganish foods in or because I am not a Vegetarian yet. This page has 20 Vegan meals, or so it says, so I hope that they help you!
http://webecoist.com/2008/09/01/20-delic鈥?/a>
http://webecoist.com/2008/10/14/20-delic鈥?/a>
I hope that these two websites help you! ^^|||well, i was a vegetarian for about 8months. i just started to go cold turkey to be become a vegan. its only been a week as a vegan for me. on a typical day i'll either eat cereal w/ soymilk or oatmeal for breakfast, baby carrots and a PBJ for lunch, and a salad for dinner. some fruit like grapes for snacks. when i checked out peta2.com it's not very hard to be a vegan for me ;D|||I went vegan after being veg for many years. It's easier if you like to cook, I think it does take a little more effort but it's so worth it! Some great cookbooks are Vegan with a Vengeance and Veganomicon. There are great websites out there too. Check out fatfreevegan.com, she is also amazing.
Typically I eat a lot of seitan (homemade from above books), tofu, tempeh, nuts, and of course veggies. The chickpea cutlet recipe from Veganomincon is the best ever (I had that for lunch today). Her tofu ricotta recipe is also a staple in my cooking (think lasagne, stuffed shells, eggplant stacks or rolls). If I'm in a hurry I'll just saute up some veggies. I always snack on fruit throughout the day.|||Cold turkey. I love that phrase. (its a john lennon song)
Anyway, yes I went cold turkey and I just eat everything I would eat before, just with vegan substitutes. Soy ice cream is a huge staple, in my dieat, lol.
Good job on becoming a vegetarian and great job on wanting to be a vegan!|||I wing myself off very slowly. Eat nuts,grains lots of veggies and fruits also at the health food stores they have lots of vegan meals/products you can eat pack with all you need. you know just research it first, but really its not that hard I'm still learning and its a blessing. Here a site you can order vegan products and trust me this stuff is the bomb!
www.vegieworld.com|||gradual should be good, leaving probably fish to last. rmemeber to eat nuts, and take vitamins as well. If youre a vegan make sure you dont wear leather!|||I became a lacto ovo vegetarian with every intention on going vegan- eventually. I looked at a calender, set a date for the transition, and went for it! I said my final goodbyes to the cheese, eggs, ice cream, milk, honey, caramel, etc, etc. the week before I set the date to become fully vegan. As I was doing the lacto ovo thing, I went shopping for my vegan commodities such as hygiene products, beauty products, clothing (no leather, wool, silk, cashmere, suede..) and accessories. Basically, I switched out and gave away all of the things that I used on a daily basis so that by the time my diet was pure vegetarian, I had vegan alternatives available. I used the internet to do my research, and it has helped me make choices in the things that I now use and buy. So yeah, it was a gradual thing, but it was over the course of only 8 months from being an omnivore to a vegan. But you know, I have to say, some ppl comment that they could never do it, but I thought the transition was smooth and not very difficult as they or I would have imagined. I never had any meat cravings, but I did MISS things like butter, milk chocolate, many baked pies, cakes, cookies. I've only faultered ONCE, when I ate a McDonalds french fry, but it backlashed because the taste of beef was repulsive! Bleh :/
On a typical day, I have a cold or hot cereal with a fruit or fruit smoothie for breakfast. Some nuts, granola, dried fruit, or tofu smoothie for snacks. Maybe a soup, salad or sandwich for lunch. And dinner is a stirfry, beans and rice-type dish, a mock-meat, tofu, or seitan dish. I eat alot more ethnic meals because they tend to have more vegan choices. I also have greatly EXPANDED and broadened my spectrum of whole foods. I now eat more seaweed, a bigger variety of grains like barley, wheat berries, quinoa. I love hemp milk and almond milk. I cook with alot more veggies than before. That's not to say that those foods mentioned are the only things I eat, but I don't want to bore you with ALL the things that I eat. I've never felt better.
I have been curious for some time about people who strictly follow Veganism do when they become ill? I know for minor events Health Food Stores and what not have medications that are vegan friendly, but what about major diseases such as diabetes, cancer, or even involved in an auto accident, ect?
Anyways, I am curious and please don't say that poeple who follow veganism never get major diseases because that cannot possibly be so. I realize their are potential health benefits, but no eating habit is a sure fire way of avoiding disease. Thanks!|||Our goal is to create a vegan society in a few hundred or few thousand or whatever years. If that actually happens, we can develop our own medicines and anything else without animal testing or ingredients. Until then, we will do whatever we have to do to survive. There is nothing hypocritical about it. It is not our fault that we live in a world with no respect for animals.
We just do what we can. To refuse critical treatment just makes us look radical, veganism IS NOT radical, just some people are.|||If I have to use conventional medicine, I look for tablets and caplets without lactose and gelatin. I make it clear to medical professionals that I am vegan with the hopes that they won't try to give me animal-based products. Doesn't always work, unfortunately. And when I go through menopause, I will make it crystal clear to my gyno that I am NOT taking horse-pee pills.|||When you need real help beliefs don't matter any more.|||In my case, I use herbal remedies when and wherever I can. I recently had a sinus infection, and treated it with natural grapefruit seed extract as opposed to a medical antibiotic. It worked wonders. Having had chronic illness for most of my omnivorous life, I have found that I get sick far less often now that I follow a veg lifestyle. When I do, I am usually able to treat it naturally. When I ate meat, I was crippled with lupus, arthritis, and many other chronic ailments, and was taking a whole slew of medications. Now, I take none except my thyroid medication (which is animal derived, and cannot be helped-but eventually I hope to find a suitable replacement) Personally, I think most medications are overperscribed, and just masking or treating symptoms does no good-the symptoms we get when we are sick are the bodies way of fighting off the illness-sometimes we just need to let nature take its course. That said, I WOULD seek medical treatment if my condition became severe enough to not respond to homeopathic or natural remedies, and would accept that as a necessary part of recovery. In the meantime, the natural approaches have worked much better for me than conventional medicine ever did.|||I've been curious about this as well, and I *am* a vegan. I can't speak for everyone, but I think if I suddenly had something serious, I would have to just trust the hospital I ended up at. I would ask that my meals be vegan, and to have the non-gelcap versions of medications whenever possible, but other than that, it's out of my hands. My main reason for being vegan is that it is not *necessary* for me to cause pain and death, so I avoid it, but if it came to my survival, it would then be necessary. Though, besides medical techniques and medicines using animal testing, insulin, and possible animal derived substances in medicines, I can't think of anything particularly non-vegan I would have to do in a hospital. What specifically were you thinking of?|||If they eat healthy then they are including everything they need. Anyone can get sick. You are right , doesn't matter how healthy you eat , you can still get sick.|||I think if I had a serious disease, I would still try to eat a vegetarian diet, or even vegan if it was possible, but I would take my medication, even if it was made with animal products.
I've always thought my vegetarianism is doing what I can to help, and if I'm in a position where my health is compromised, then I have to do everything I can do to get healthy.
I've been a vegan for about 5 months and I'm having some problems. I have severe OCD (I get treatment) and my life is miserable freaking out about every single possible animal byproduct. I have this eyeliner that I only use because I'm also OCD about money (not wanting to spend) and because it would be a waste. I don't know if it contained animal products, but it's remove.
My family uses animal products all the time and I'm freaked out and have to keep washing my hands.
Sometimes I have to tell myself to stop worrying so much and I'll stop washing my hands or freaking out, but then I wonder if the situation I'm panicking about is OCD or not. I don't know any other vegans so I can't ask them what they would do.
I can't stop being a vegan because I'm very passionate about what I believe it, but I really need some help from other vegans on how to not be OCD about the whole thing.
Please don't be mean.
And I might post other questions about situat|||your OCD is a condition you have, which is nothing to do with your being vegan. If you weren't vegan you would obsess about something else. You need to think about WHY you are vegan. Is it to cause problems for people by attaching yourself to rigid rules you cannot break, or is it for the greater good? I'm vegan, but I'm the only one in my family, I don't even know any other vegans so I'm surrounded by animal products. I never buy anything for myself that contains animal products, but I have to let others live by their beliefs too, which means buying meat and dairy for my boyfriend and our kids, although all the houshold toilletries soap, shampoo etc are vegan. Last night I sent my boyfriend shopping and he got a plant-based washing up liquid that contains milk-protein but I'll use it anyway, he did his best to get something vegan. I will also buy 2nd hand (but not new) leather goods. I do my bit by being aware of everything I eat/use and what it actually is and I avoid animal products because this is what I believe to be right, but I don't see myself on a moral highground above the meat-eaters. I do 'preach' a bit to family, but never to strangers and ultimately, I believe everyone should follow their own path, so much as I would like to see my boyfriend and kids become vegan, I accept that they're not and I handle meat and dairy when preparing food, I don't freak out because I'm not preparing it for me. In your case, those animal products are being used anyway, it's not your fault washing and your hands isn't going to change that. I also used up make-up from my pre-vegan days and just replaced it with vegan as it ran out. If you are in the UK most Barry M (not foundation/powder) and GOSH make-up at Superdrug is vegan. Maybe see a doc about the OCD thing if you're not already, but don't stop being vegan - it's good for you!|||I'm not a vegan (not even a veggie anymore, but still cook that way most of the time), but I do have 2 grown kids w/OCD. Sounds like your treatment is working for you right now, for whatever reason. I highly encourage you to check in w/your dr. and therapist. If you can't (due to family or whatever) and need someon, you can email me. Changes in routines and lifestyles can be really rough for ocd kids. By believing that you can learn to cope with this, too, and getting help you really can get back to your baseline normal.|||Hi Sophie,
I don't think this is related to veganism.
I would treat veganism as just a "topic" you get OCD about and try to adress it in your treatment.
You are right in that you will not need to compromise your morals on veganism. Being passionate about it is a positive thing, letting it control your life is where you need help and it seems you are getting it. Your helpers need to take a different tack, tell them about seeking help on the internet and how you feel thier help isn't working for you
Best of luck with it, hope you get better, relax and enjoy life more soon.
Take care,
m|||I work in mental health and I never heard of anyone being able to decide "not to be OCD."
All you can do is to stay compliant with your treatment and hopefully control the symptoms as much as possible. If you don't think your symptoms are being controlled well enough, then you need to talk to your doctor about that.|||Iv'e already answered this question, whats the deal?|||A lot of folks with OCD also have issues around food. It would be best to speak with your doctor to see if there's anything else you can do - switch meds, try alternative treatments, etc. If your doctor isn't willing to work with you, you might want to seek out another opinion. Living with out of control OCD is miserable.|||This may or may not be strictly related, but there is an eating disorder called Orthorexia wherein the sufferer only eats very specific "pure" foods. It usually starts out as veganism/vegetarian philosophy in sufferers, but as OCD overtakes your eating habits, intake is usually pared down to a very limited selection of foods, leading to serious health risks and emaciation - ironic result of a quest for "health". Similarly, I had a cousin who developed anorexia as a result of her OCD and a fear of bacteria - to her, more and more foods seemed "full of germs".
Your obsessive compulsive tendencies should not rule how you eat to the point of anxiety - that's the point where it becomes and eating disorder. You may not be there yet, bu you could be. So. Talk to somebody. Humans have been getting along for quite a while with the occasional animal byproduct, and anxiety to the degree of compulsive is unwarranted.|||Vegan should not equal obsessive.
If you already bought the eyeliner, the money has already been spent. Just buy vegan brand online next time. It won't contribute to any animal suffering if it's already been purchased
Don't worry about what everyone around you is using or eating. It is your choice to be vegan. If you act weird because someone else ate or used an animal product, they will think that vegan people are freaks.
I am glad that you are passionate about your beliefs, I am as well. I know that it must be hard having OCD, but the calmer and happier that you appear to be in the eyes of those around you, the more positive of a message you will help spread in the name of those beliefs.|||I am a vegan that eats dairy products for the most part,beef,i will not even touch! Disgusting. It sounds as you may be a tad over the top on washing after using toiletry/make up products made with animal by product,but that is you,it may be somewhat ocd.
i just want to ask a few questions
tell me if your vegan or not.
Is it best to get sweetened milk or un-sweetened soya milk?
Has any one tried asdas own brand soya milk ok?
Should i buy or make my own vegan cheese.
do i NEED to take supplements.
any good recipies.
what should i say to someone who makes fun of me for being vegan?
is there any thing else i shd know or any stories if ur vegan|||hi, yea i've been vegan for 7 years...
i use unsweetened soya milk if i want a cup of tea, or on cereal...i don't find a use for the sweetened stuff...
i think it's probably a lot of effort to make your own cheese and there are good vegan cheeses out there - i prefer cheezly but others like sheese, so i would say to buy it. cheese was an odd one for me when i went vegan - i'd always eaten a Lot of cheese as a vegetarian and although i was never tempted to go back to dairy, i really didn't like the vegan alternative and found i just didn't eat it. a friend made me a meal a year or so later, using cheezly and i really liked it...i think my taste buds had 'forgotten' what dairy tastes like :)
you don't need to take supplements if you're eating a varied diet...only thing you might need is B12...
if people make fun then just try not to react...people Will ask you 'what about plants' or tell you 'all vegans are unhealthy' and a load of other nonsense but the best thing you can do is show yourself as a good example of a healthy vegan, show that it's easy and that there Is plenty of stuff you can eat and that it's consistent with taking animal interests seriously in a way that vegetarianism simply can't be...
feel free to mail me if you need any help...good luck :)|||You don't have to drink soya milk - also try Oat milk and Rice Milk - they're both sold in Asda. The Rice Milk is nicer than soya.
Vegan cheese tastes totally gross, but you could probably get used to it after a while - I had some Cheezley a few weeks ago, but it wasn't good. It's only sold in larger supermarkets - I got mine from a larger branch of Tescos.
I'm vegetarian, but haven't quite taken the plunge into veganism just yet (I'm still cheese dependant).
As for supplements - vegans are prone to becoming low in vitamin B12. My husband had a vegan colleague who ended up with nerve damage due to this and had to have monthly vitamin B12 injections eventually.
Make sure you eat a good range of vegetables and take a decent multivitamin/mineral. Make sure you get enough iron and protein as well. Don't turn to carbohydrates for your energy source - get some protein into you and you'll feel better and won't put on weight.|||I am not vegan but I eat a mainly vegetarian diet which often includes vegan meals.
For the soya milk question, it really depends on what you are using it for. I usually go for unsweetened though. However, I do sometimes use sweetened on things like cereal just for taste prefrence. I haven't tried that ASDAs variety.
I would buy my own cheese but if you simply enjoy the challenge of making your own then maybe it could just be fun for you.
If you carefully watch your intake of food to make sure you get a complete balanced intake of vitamins and minerals you shouldn't need supplements. However, you don't say your age and if you are especially young it may be worth talking to your GP just to make sure.
As far as being made fun of..just let it brush off you. It is brave to make your own lifestyle choices.|||1. I'm vegan.
2. It all depends on what you want. I don't like excess sugars, so unsweetened milks are the way I go (I typically do rice or hemp milk, not soy). If you want a sweeter drink, then get sweetened, but please don't try to use it in savory recipes!
3. I have not, but most soy milk will taste the same, regardless of brand.
4. If you can make it, make it. Always best to make your own foods.
5. No, but you NEED to eat a well-rounded diet with adequate calories.
6. Email me your fave foods, I'll give you vegan recipes for them.
7. Ask them why they felt so compelled to share their stupid opinion with you.
8. Yes, being vegan is EASIER than you might think! Few people seem to know this :)|||Im not a vegan, but I know allot of people who are vegans. And besides my mom barely eats meat because well i dont know lol.
Anyways, I think it's better to buy your vegan cheese.
And yes, I do think you need supplements.
Well, I think it's just dumb if other people make fun of you just because you're vegan. Just ignore them.
p.s. what a accidence, my mom is watching something about vegans on tv.|||im vegetarian but id like to become vegan one day. the problem is that i love cheese and most of my meals contain it, so it will be hard to give that up.
i prefer flavoured soya milk as it just tastes a bit weird otherwise. i usually have apple flavour but theres all sorts.
i havent tried asdas sorry only morrisons and tescos
iv tried vegan cheese from holland & barretts that looked like cheese slices that you get in individual wrappers. it looked the part but honestly tasted like paper! i havent tried any others yet but im sure theres a range of flavours! no idea how to made it but iv also heard theres a thing u can make with nuts that kinda tastes like cheese?
you dont need to take supplements as long as you eat plenty of fruit and veg, especially greens like broccoli and spinach. eat nuts theres loads to choose from, eat seeds their really addictive once you get used to them. include tofu in your meals. you can grill it, fry it etc. i usually make my own stirfry and grill quorn/tofu fillets. then chop them up and chuck into stirfry.
vegans differ from vegetarians slightly because vegans dont eat meat because they feel strongly about animal abuse, and so believe that its not right to take dairy from cows because it was meant for their calves.
just tell them you are against animal abuse
animals are your friends....and you dont eat your friends
and that cows are pumped full of hormones and steroids, impregnated and then when the calf is born its taken away so that dairy farms get the milk. girl calves are grown to become dairy cows and boy calves are killed and become veal|||I don't think it matters whether or not your milk is sweetened. I enjoy the vanilla kind, so that's what I buy. I'm in the US, so I don't think we have asdas brand, so I will defer to those who know that one.
I would say buy the cheese until you learn what kind you like. They are really not wonderful, and the transition to not eat any cheese is worthwhile.
But! I love to experiment when I cook, so if you do, too, go for it! :o)
Take a B12 vit once in awhile. Most soy milks in the US is already fortified with it, but I still take one every once in awhile. Go outside to get vit D. Eat flax and/or walnuts for omegas. That's about it!
Vegweb.com has some great recipes, so look around until you find ones you like.
People are going to question you, try to make you angry, and some will even be outright mean to you. Please start to accept that this will happen.
What I do when people I don't know ask, I tell them I eat plant protein. It will answer their second question ("How do you get your protein?!") easily enough. Then I decide if I want to engage in a discussion. I sometimes will tell them I live a cruelty-free life, but that can sometimes invite the wrong discussion. :o)
To my friends, it was easy. I had been a vegetarian, so it wasn't a stretch.
Become passionate about your choice (for some, it's a slower process than others). When you are passionate about it, the insults don't bother you as much. You know you are doing the right thing and that's all there is to it.
The most successful I've been has been taking my die-hard carnivore friends to veggie restaurants. Opens their eyes to everything wonderful we get to eat. :o)
I've been vegetarian for a little over a month now...i'm enjoying the comfort in knowing that i haven't killed anything! :D|||It's unnatural. There's no reason to abstain from meat. If animals were smart enough to catch you, they would eat you. Also, meat is delicious, nutritious, and a legitimate food source.|||I don't think it is right or wrong. Whatever makes you feel better. The Bible says we can eat animals. The Buddhists say we shouldn't. I think it depends on a person's spiritual stance.|||On a health level:
I think you are going to be eating a lot of green and doing a lot of studying to get your diet healthy.
If not, you can stop menstruating (if you are female), have difficulty healing, suffer fatigue, and other diet-related problems.
The biggest fight is going to be finding things to put in your diet that have the right nutrients in the right quantity in the right combinations compared to many of the same being found in quantity in many meats or meat preparations.
On a psychological level:
If the difficulty and stress of making this work is low enough to tolerate and is less than the stress of eating animals, go for it. I wouldn't be obnoxious about it or try to force it on others, especially children.
On a metaphysical level:
I think you're a little out there.
Elitist as a matter of fact, setting yourself above everyone else (including the animals).
Trying to keep everyone and everything alive is a dangerous and unnatural act.|||That's why I became vegetarian. I don't want anything to die so I can live. I am a veteran. I've seen enough death. I vowed when I came home never to hurt another living person again. After a couple years, it evolved into another living thing ever again. So I stopped eating meat. Nothing that has died will ever come in contact with my body.
I feel great, am in far better health and shape and have a clean conscience. I love it. The transition and detox wasn't very fun, as you'll soon be experiencing but it's worth it in so many ways.|||Those who can go meatless have my blessing. I have a friend who hasn't eaten "meat" for nearly thirty years. But he'll eat fish and poultry. And I tell him, Friend, if it has a beating heart it's meat. Most think of themselves as being vegetarians if they simply don't eat red meat or pork, etc. Bullfeathers. We're at the top of the food chain and we eat whatever we want. This entire planet is teeming with life. Is a plant any less a life? We eat because we have to to survive. And it goes all the way down to the two cell organism eating the one cell organism. And there is no proof that eating meat is any more or less healthy for us than eating only plant matter. Infact, look at the mountain gorilla that must consume huge amounts of plant fiber to live. And look at their waist lines! The only reason our species has evolved to appear the way we do is because of the protein we get from meat. So, go enjoy a nice fat medium-rare T-bone, and stop laying so much guilt on yourself. After all, the animals are absolutely mindless anyway. They're not self-aware. Bon apetit.|||Hi Beach. Vegetarians tend to live longer and healthier lives than carnivores. However, you must educate yourself about vegetarian diets. These diets often lack adequate amounts of Vitamin B12, Zinc and balanced protein (amino acids). So, you need to be knowledgeable about managing and avoiding these potential problems.
Best wishes and good luck.|||Vegans taste alright with some salt. Vegitarians pretty much have a decent salt content. All in all it depends on how you cook them.|||i have no "beef "with it... :P
sorry if it makes you unconformable but you have killed something, as a plant is life and to "kill" is take life.
i personally am not a veggie, but i respect the animal in which has died so i can eat it.
i respect vegetarianism/veganism unless it is forced on someone or saying that carnivorous people are unmoral or ignorant and such.
im all for animal rights and everything, but its a part of life,eating animals. if someone disagrees, id be happy to hear your argument
I've been a vegetarian for about 11 years and now I'm considering veganism, mainly for the health benefits. I'd like to hear from vegans or people who know vegans whether or not the benefits really outweigh the challenges when eliminating all animal products from your diet. Is it something you, after a while, easily get used to? I certainly would never want to eat meat again, partly out of habit and partly from it simply having no appeal for me, so is it the same with veganism? Would like to hear from anyone with experience in this.|||Substitutes, and Vitamin B6 definciency and Vitamin B12 defienciency|||Benefits- Your body will no longer be a grave yard, high fiber diet. Less saurdated fats. Barely any cholesterol. Also, I don't know if it's just me but I never get sick supreme immune system I suppose.
Challengse - Cravings, temptation. and remaining a Vegan with out slipping. Peer pressure to eat meat. And finally accidentally messing up like eating something you thought was Vegan or safe such as foods with gelatin in them. But, most of all going to parties/cook outs or friends houses.|||lol i'm literally just starting veganism from being a constant meat eater and not caring what I ate. Yesterday was my first go at it, and yes it's quite easy. Most things you like that aren't vegan have a vegan substitute. For example, I was worried about how I would drink coffee with-out milk, turns out soy milk tastes really good with coffee! Soy milk tastes good with cereal as well. There are a lot of sites on the internet that help you too, if you want to know if something is vegan just google it, for example if I wanted to know if lays were vegan (which they are) I'd go up to google and search: are lays vegan.
You'll always find answers. Good luck.|||Benefits: it benefits your health (lowers risk of heart disease), it's better for the environment and most of all (and most importantly) it's better for animals.
Challenges: Finding something to eat at a restaurant while in a foreign country (speaking from experience).|||well you will be healthier and life a longer life ( maybe i don't know ) and most of all you might be able to drop a few pounds ( no offense) or to change the subject you should sit down and thing your decision carefully because it's a decision that can change life
I am a Vegan and do not eat dairy products and meat.I have been taking vitamins and is eating alot of stuff with whole wheat and nutrients in it,but I am afraid that I am not getting enough.My mother said something to me about ovo veganism..she said it is where you can eat everything you usually do as a Vegan,but you can also eat cheese.I know that cheese is really good and that is what my mother thinks I should do.I am still not sure if I should become an ovo Vegan because I am already pretty committed to being a regular Vegan.Can you tell me more about Ovo Veganism??|||"Ovo veganism"???
If that were a genuine term, it would mean that you don't eat dairy(cheese) or meat but eat eggs.
There is ovo-vegetarianism and lacto-vegetarianism but no vegan person eats eggs or dairy and they usually cause more suffering than the meat itself.|||Ovo-*vegetarianism* is where you eat eggs but no dairy or meat. Lacto-vegetarianism is where you eat dairy but no eggs or meat. There is no such thing as lacto or ovo veganism; it completely negates the term "vegan" as someone who doesn't consume animal products, period.
Personally? I say stick with veganism if you're against animal cruelty. The egg and dairy industries are directly linked to the meat industry. The male children of milk cows (How do you think they give milk? Forced pregnancy! D:) are often sent to veal farms, while "spent" chickens are sent off to be meat.|||no such thing.
If you eat eggs, you would be an ovo-vegetarian
Thats pretty much what i am.
If you want to add in cheese, you would be lacto-ovo-vegetarian - this is the most popular form which most people refer to as "vegetarian".
We can't just start adding in foods or preffixes when a clear definition already exists. Vegans do not eat eggs or dairy.|||The word "ovo" ... as in "ovulation".... is for eggs, not cheese.
If you eat eggs, you are not a vegan. If you eat cheese, you are not a vegan. Vegans do not eat any animal products at all. I think it's hysterical that people make up new words so that they can be "socially conscinece" and have what they want as well... but it's crazy. You can't just change the definitian of a word for your pleasure/comfort by adding a prefix.|||Sorry. I can't tell you more about "Ovo Veganism" because it doesn't exist. There is no such thing. Ovo refers to eggs, not cheese, and vegans eat neither. The term itself is an oxymoron.
Vegans do not eat animal products.
Eggs and cheese are animal products.
-therefore-
Vegans do not eat eggs and cheese.|||As others have said, there is no such thing. Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat eggs and dairy. "Ovo" means eggs while "lacto" means dairy. Both are specifically excluded by a vegan diet.
What nutrients do you think you are lacking that makes your mother think you should eat eggs?|||ovo is when you eat eggs but you still live as a vegan. but lacto is what she probably wanted to say lacto is when you can have dairy. that's why im lacto ovo vegetarian long name for a simple thing. |||Ovo means egg and vegans do not use animal products so there is no such thing as an ovo vegan.|||theres no ovo veganism|||Disgusting...|||Turning vegan is a slow process. Be patient and understanding with your body. Don't feel bad if once in a while you really feel like eating something your mind doesn't approve of.
I remember how badly I needed meat one day during my transition, but by and by all the craving left for good. After quitting meat I had raw milk for substitute, then I replaced even that with nuts and seeds and legumes (peas and beans) sprouted. Sprouted peas taste almost like fresh raw peas.
Just think why your body needs cheese or eggs and try to find some vegan substitutes to introduce to your body. You should teach your body this way. So far it can only think in terms of what you usually eat, but if you introduce to it new vegan substitutes, it can start thinking in terms of those. Like when it needs protein it will crave for nuts and seeds or legumes.
However, you can never tell for certain what is that particular stuff there is in an object of your craving that your body needs.
Bottom line is: Trust your body's messages, but make sure it is not a whim or a habbit, because you shouldn't go by those. Go by real body needs. Be patient and gentle with your body, and it will follow your mind's purpose as best it can.
Just curious. If you love, or think you love animals, this is a serious question for you. I have been a vegan for over a year now and wanted to hear what people have to say. If you have no idea why I people become vegans, go to http://www.meat.org and watch the main page video that is narrated by Alec Baldwin. It is truly eye opening. Good luck, would love to hear a serious answer from someone who has visited the site. There are many more wonderful sites to visit if you care.
http://www.farmsanctuary.org
http://www.tryveg.com
just google animals rights or vegan|||I've been a vegetarian for over 16 years. I was 13 when I started. The reason was simple, I started thinking about what I was actually eating and it made me very, very sad. I started looking into animal rights and to this day I believe I made the right decision.
My husband nor my son are vegetarians although my son normally eats what I eat so he doesn't eat much meat. I decided it is probably healthier for him to eat meat now and he can chose later what he wants to do (he's 2). I have given him tofu and soybeans and he likes them.
Also, I try not to buy leather and only buy products not tested on animals which there's more and more everyday.|||The world would be a better place? Sharks eat vegans too. Humans are the only animal stupid enough to feel guilty for doing what nature built us to do. Report Abuse
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|||I LOVE DEAD COW!|||I had a friend who was vegan and he looked like a walking skeleton. His eyes were all sunken in and he looked like he could use a nice meal.
I visited the website and have seen similar things before. I think if we had footage of what the cavemen did thousands of years ago it would knock your socks off...the whole "beat, slaughter and drag" method. Yikes! Unfortunately, that's what they had to do to survive. Everyone is different. There are no 2 people who think exactly alike. I love your passion. I think it's great that you stand behind your beliefs. BUT, I hope just because I enjoy a nice steak once in awhile it doesn't cause you to feel hatred towards me.
Ok, I just want to know your opinion on this. I'm sure you have all heard about the vegan couple whose baby starved at 6 weeks. GRANTED it seems like they didn't feed their baby enough food at all...and I'm sure there are other very healthy vegan babies out there now. I'm not passing any judgement at all, I just want to get your take on this.
What do you think?
btw i'm a vegetarian...|||Babies (animal and human) are meant to drink milk. It is what milk is for in the first place. If this couple was not giving their child milk (breast milk or formula, whatever) that's silly. Even though it isn't technically 'vegan' it is what that baby needs to survive.|||i respect other peoples beliefs and feel like everyone should raise their children on those beliefs(within reason). I personally belive there are enough baby foods and varieties to raise a baby on veggies in addition to normal baby formula. I think vegan parents should expose babies to meat varieties and let the children decide when they are a little older, what they want to eat. A 6 week old baby shouldn't have been on baby food to begin with. Furthermore, baby formula would have provided all the necessary nutrition needed at that age. I think the parents of that poor baby were starving it from formula. By the way, what the hell were they giving the baby as a breast milk/ formula substitute?|||A baby should be breast fed for the first 2 years of life.To give a child human breastmilk doesn't go against vegan ethics,so I don't see why they didn't breastfeed.
Vegan parenting
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This is Nyjah Huston,(12 year old very close to becoming a pro skateboarder),a vegan since birth
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You should also keep in mind that mcdonald's makes 40% of it's profits from happy meals,and who eats happy meals?KIDS!.|||Veganism is quite healthy for babies and children.
Idiots are not healthy for babies.
Everyone, vegan or no, understands that soy-milk is a supplement to cows milk, NOT a supplement to formula or complete nutrition.
Just as I am sure there have been plenty of idiots who have killed their babies by using cows milk, these idiots killed their baby by feeding them only soy-milk (and apples or some nonsense.
Some people should not be allowed to breed... including several of the meat-eating answerers on this question.
I personally could never force an innocent child to eat animal flesh, but that is just me. They can make that decision when they are old enough to understand what it is all about.
:)|||I don't think I will feed my baby meat. If for some reason it NEEDS it to stay healthy and alive then of course I would but If he/she ever WANTS to eat meat then it is really their desicion (sp) what they eat so I wouldn't really have a problem with it as long as they knew what the poor animals really go through. It's just that I am a vegetarian and am completely against animal cruelty.|||What we "think" isn't important. It's what we "know" that matters. The science of proper diet is complicated, and most especially for people who for one reason or another choose to eliminate all animal products from their diet. Read this
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/people/鈥?/a>|||What do you mean you wouldnt "push vegetarianism on your kids"? if theyre still too young to make their own decisions, then you're pushing meat on them. Parents are *always* making decisions for their kids.
Vegans just like other parents do what they think is the best solution for their kids.
A child can be raised perfectly well on a healthy vegan diet. Much better than on hormone-stuffed meat and cows milk meant for baby cows, not humans.
What about millions of people with all kinds of diseases that result from eating meat? But I dont see omnivores commenting on that here. Did you know that most types of cancer and heart disease can be prevented if you just quit eating meat? And that obesity can be solved with veganism? What is your view on that?
Why are YOU pushing your kids to eat something that can so easily make them sick?
PS. no one can starve if they eat vegs, fruit, whole grains... I'm a vegan, and I'm not starving.|||They made a mistake of not giving the poor child breastmilk, that is God's order. A strictly plant based diet is what our Creator gave to our first parents in the garden in Eden (read Gen 1 and 2), and it was not until the flood that flesh food was allowed, for one can not grow a garden in a flood (read Gen 7 and 9). Flesh is so unhealthy that how can we eat of it and give glory to God at the same time? One case that seems against God's natural diet and Satan uses the media to televise it to the world. But how many thousands upon thousands die each day to the horrible results of flesh foods and other choice vices of individuals nowadays, that make big profits for many of the world's leaders? When will we awake to see the signs of the times?|||Although first hand I do not know any vegan parents practicing this with their babies, using logic and life experience I DO think that there are successful vegans who feed their babies only vegan approved items and can still manage to keep them healthy through that source of energy. From what I understand, there are ways to go about it if you do enough research to supplement your daily need for each vitamin and nutrient needed.
As for the allegations regarding this being an inappropriate way to feed a baby~ I think its nonsense. I would have to agree with your point in that the baby was just not fed enough. Parents need to do their research in dealings with feeding a baby vegan sure only I'm sure, but I believe it is possible.|||Vegan is too extreme for children, they're still growing and need all their nutrition (especially proteins, dairy, etc.) Once a person is full grown, then it doesn't matter.|||There are healthy ways to feed a baby without a baby starving to death. When a baby is small especially 6 weeks old that baby needs all the vitamins and nutrients it can get. Eating organic food is healthy.|||I saw that news article, and those people are idiots. A true vegan would know to have more than soymilk and water in the house-their cupboards were completely empty of any food at all. However, that said, it pisses me off that they targeted them as vegans-what about the parents of obese kids who give their kids a diet of sugary soda, fast food, and junk food! No one blames the parents of neglect in those cases. I think a baby could be raised as nature intended-on breast milk for the first 12 months or so, then whole grains and healthy vegetables and proteins. Yes, I think a baby can be (and should be) raised vegan. The couple in that case was clearly just ignorant and uninformed.|||Infants need fat in their diet. It's in breast milk, so why would anyone think they could be strictly vegan?|||i work at a baby store, and they do sell soy-formula. its for lactose intolerant babies. idk why they couldnt just have used that.|||I meet a vegan baby (~ 2 years old) and I couldn't tell he was vegan. I would assume he was breast fed though.|||Im not convinced that a baby's needs could be met with vegan alternatives. I am open to being shown that it can work though.
If someone did enough research and was getting regular health checks I would be all for them putting their baby on a vegan diet--I feel that way about any baby feeding though. We have proven time and again people do stupid stuff with babies-just make sure the kid is being taken care of and there is no issue with me.|||It's not something I would do, and if for some reason I did I would do so under strict doctor supervision.|||I'm surprised that so many people still believe that vegans do not receive enough nutrients/protein/etc. With the exception of vitamin B12, there is absolutely nothing nutritional that a typical meat-eater's diet contains that a vegan diet does not, and a simple daily multi vitamin easily takes care of that.
Vegans are not martyrs sacrificing their own health for their beliefs (although many surely would, they simply don't have to) Vegans understand that animal products are completely unnecessary and therefore the suffering and harm that comes to animals as a result is completely unnecessary.
Saying that a vegan diet is OK for adults, but you shouldn't "force" your child to suffer is like saying that "If you don't want to eat candy bars and soda pop, that's fine, but you shouldn't deprive your child". I think that "forcing" your child to eat healthy is called good parenting. The main problem is that so many people are misinformed and believe that a vegan diet is unhealthy. That is simply not true. (Although vegans obviously can eat unhealthy diets just like meat-eaters - a proper diverse vegan diet is quite healthy)
That newborn baby did not die because his parents didn't feed him enough hamburgers. He died because they deliberately did not feed him. (hence the murder charge, not manslaughter) Newborn babies need only mother's breast milk (their mother's, not some cow's mother) or at the very least a formula, which there are vegan alternatives.
According to wiki (link below)...
"The American Dietetic Association considers well planned vegan diets "appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy and lactation,"[29] but recommends vegan mothers supplement for iron, vitamin D, and vitamin B12"
A little vitamin supplementation (which I believe is recommended for most if not all pregnant mothers?) Is all that is required.
Remember, vegans are against suffering, and deliberately starving your baby to death is completely opposite anything remotely vegan.|||I hadn't heard that story. That is very sad indeed :(
If the baby was breast fed as babies are meant to be then I don't think there would be a problem with the baby being introduced to a vegan diet at around 6 months old but nursing should be extended until at least a year old and preferably beyond in a vegan household because soy milk is just unsuitable for babies.
Or if breast feeding is not an option then a vegan couple should at least break the rules for their baby because a suitable formula based on cows milk is the next best thing after human breast milk. Soy is just unsuitable.
The problem with soy milk is trypsin inhibitors which are growth inhibitors and soy is known to have some adverse effects on the thyroid gland. Also, it is loaded with phytoestrogens, which mimic the female hormone oestrogen. All in all it is not suitable for young children except as a rare treat.|||The way I see it. Meat-eaters that grow up to be meat-eaters don't keep their children on any other diet but what they eat. So why can't vegetarians/vegans do the same?
My kids are going to grow up as vegetarians until they turn 13 (which is when I made my decision). Then they can choose to stay vegetarian or eat meat, knowing full well that I will not be cooking or using my money for them to eat meat.|||I think those parents were just plain stupid. Soy milk and apple juice are NOT at all a good thing to feed to a baby for its nourishment. Babies need breast milk or formula. However, breast milk from a vegan mother may not contain enough protein for the baby. It's fine to be a vegan or vegetarian, but a baby has basic nutritional needs that only breast milk or formula can give it. Breast milk is important for preventing allergies, as well.
What do I think? Babies should not start out vegans (who don't drink milk), because they need milk to develop properly.|||OK, im not a vegetarian but a baby needs a well balanced diet. And do vegans not believe in giving their baby breast milk??? Thats why a woman produces milk, to feed her child. Thats all a new born needs.|||I read this news story about it...
"Fulton prosecutor Chuck Boring said the verdict isn't a condemnation of veganism, a strict form of vegetarianism that doesn't allow the consumption or use of animal products. Instead, jurors believed prosecutors' assertions that the couple intentionally neglected and underfed the child and then tried to use the lifestyle as a shield.""The vegan diet is fine," Boring said after the verdict in the Georgia case. "These parents lied about what they fed him. He just was not fed enough."
It sounds like these people were just terrible parents who should never have had a child to begin with. There are cases of children neglected and murdered by starvation every year by their meat-eating parents. It has nothing to do with the food philosophy, it is the lack of food, period. The parents should go to jail for life. How sad that the meat eaters are now grabbing at this straw to try to beat us down. How about the millions of parents who are killing their kids by feeding them nothing but animal fat and empty calories? Of course nothing will be done to them.|||I think that vegans have to be especially aware of nutritional content. And I would also like to make not that vegans and vegetarians have very different dietary restrictions. Infants/children need more nutrients than adults do.
I honestly also believe that parents should not impose this on their children. It might sound crazy, but I believe it is a learned prejudice. Humans have lived on other animals (and themselves on occasions and in certain cultres) for centuries. Everything should be offered to a child despite your own beliefs. I understand that people feel that "nothing with a face" should be eaten, but what if we took that further. Right now the extreme Islamics are on the radar. Does it mean that our children should not be able to expore this? No. We would want to monitor what they see, do and explore, but completely not allowing them to partake in it makes them ignorant.
I know this is more drastic than not eating meat, but it is not our choice to decide what our children choose. As parents we can only guide, suggest and provide thoughful information.|||I am the mother of two children raised vegan since birth .. and now my 2 1/2 year old grandson also raised vegan since birth ... first where is this misconception that breast feeding your baby is Not vegan ? Of course it IS vegan .. second that child was 6 weeks old and weigh 3 1/2 pounds (who was born at home and obviously had no doctors care) .. that is tragic , it was starvation, it was murder and it was not being vegan that killed that poor baby .. it was murder by bad parents .. for heavens sake my sons were born bigger....both over 8 lbs and my grandson over 8 lbs at birth as well ........ and yes my sons survived healthy as could be ! now 30 and 24 ..still vegan ...still healthy ... about 50 percent of ALL children are allergic to cows milk and given soy substitutions (as myself and 2 of my sisters..never had dairy) so what does that tell you ... those parents were sentenced to life as I believe all vegans would agree they should have been ... so please Do not blame vegans and our diet , .. anymore then every child that is starved to death by an omnivore .. do we blame their diet choice for the babies death .. we simply say they were murdered by bad people who happen to be parents !!|||There is no such thing as a healthy vegan baby, and it is not healthy to be a vegan if you are under 13.|||veganism is no good for babies or kids.they are not getting enough nutrients it is dangerous and unhealthy not to have a varied balanced diet|||The 44 years i've been living, I have never, ever heard of a
vegan baby. What is that? Boy! Alot of you young folks come
up with stupid questions, I never heard of.|||Yeah not a great idea. Humans need nutrients and vitamins. You can't make that choice for a new baby. If veg then why is it starvation? Portion size?
I am on a vegetarian/vegan diet for my cholesterol levels. I am trying to lose about two pounds within the next 2 weeks week and a half. In the few weeks I plan to lose five. I am seeing a specialist doctor and regular doctor. I need to lose about forty pounds. It was 262 last time and god forbid it is higher. My question is apart from losing weight and exercising/diet alone would it lower my levels significantly if I follow a vegan diet within the next month or more? I do drink soy milk but it has no cholesterol anyway. I am going to try no diary and eggs and meat for a while or a few months at least or within the next three months. And if my cholesterol lowers significantly then that is good for me. Another question is, How many miligrams of cholesterol can a person safely ingest a week and be safe from the high levels, such as 15 mg?|||There is no set limit as to how much cholesterol you can consume in food. Everyone is different and thus cholesterol will be handled differently. Some people on a low cholesterol diet still have cholesterol issues and it is just familial. Some people can control there level with diet and exercise alone.|||How bad is cholesterol in eggs? How often should you eat eggs ? Should you be concerned about cholesterol in eggs ? Come find out visit www.cholesterolineggs.com Report Abuse
|||If your cholesterol level is below normal that is less than 200 do not try to lose,
You should also check your HDL cholestrol --- >40mg/dl
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These values are not absolute and can vary with the age and sex of the patient . Thus for a 30 year-old a cholesterol level of 240 can be considered high but can be taken as normal for a 60 year-old.
In a lot of cases it keeps you thinner because you live without the excess fat. But I myself am a vegetarian, not a vegan. I've been a vegetarian for almost half a year now and I don't push my views on everyone else, or try to be annoying. I just do it for me and the animals.|||veganism or vaganism?
Personally I'll take the second option, thank you very much|||No such thing.
http://www.eatliver.com/img/2010/6362.jp…|||Keeps you lean. Good for animals.
My friend has been vegan for over a year now. The will power she must possess..
I'm vegetarian, but I'm not sure I could be vegan..|||Hmmm....I will never become a vegan because I love meat and eggs and milk but I have nothing against vegans. I guess it just depends on how about eating animals and things that come from animals. =)|||I'm for it.
Very ethical. Good for the welfare of animals as well as your well-being. Helps maintain control over weight.|||I think that its a lifestyle choice and I really dont care unless they try to impose their beliefs on me.|||I'm not vegan myself, but I think it's a great thing for those that are.|||Yuck. Meat is good.|||Horrible i can't live without meat.|||I hate vegans|||For men: Gay
For women: Stupid|||Who cares|||I like my dairy..and my meat so it wouldn't work out to well xD.|||Way of life<3|||Whats that|||i like to throw meat at them.|||Good.|||They are annoying and stupid.|||pretty much stupid as hell
Veganism - if you avoid the fake foods. Fake meats and cheeses are expensive, but unnecessary.
Dried beans, brown rice and whole grains are very cheap. Particularly if you buy in bulk, they're under a dollar per pound, and a pound of dried beans yields about 15 servings, and a pound of rice about eight. Other staples like potatoes and pasta are also inexpensive.
Regular vegetarianism is also pretty cheap. A half gallon of milk is about $2.50 for eight servings, likely less if you can buy it in bulk. And eggs are about $1.50 - 2.00 per 12 servings. An issue is spoilage - milk and eggs might be cheaper in bulk, but they might spoil before you can finish the amount you bought. Grains and beans keep much longer; practically indefinitely if you keep the bugs out.
A pound of very inexpensive meat might be purchased for $1.00 a pound, but it's roughly four servings.
I can't really compare the price of fresh fruits and vegetables, because truth is, everybody needs to be eating a lot of these, whether vegan, vegetarian or omnivorous.|||Protein is the most expensive part of an omnivore diet. Pound for pound of protein, beans, legumes and tofu are far cheaper. Fish in Australia averages about $20 odd dollars a kilo and can go as high as $38 dollars a kilo (approx. 2lbs fish). A kilo of tinned cooked beans would cost $4. Meat is the same story.
You can cook simple, plain vegetarian/vegan food or expensive, fancy vegetarian/vegan food. A simple, varied vegetarian diet is much cheaper than a normal meat eater diet (unless they eat sausages/mince etc regularly).|||Vegetarianism.
Meat is expensive (compare 2 lbs of dried rice and beans to 1 lb of meat...now imagine how many meals you can make with it)
Vegans tend to purchase faux food, which gets pricey. If there are vegans who don't purchase faux cheese/sausage/burger/butter, then they would be cheaper, but most vegan blogs I've seen consistently use something artificial (Smart Balance is NOT healthy)|||Depends on what you eat. If you eat a lot of turkey or ground beef, meat is pretty cheap. If you eat ribeye steaks, it's pretty expensive.
If you live on beans and rice, it's pretty cheap. If you buy the fake burgers, bacon, etc., it's pretty expensive.
The optimum diet for humans is a balanced diet: some meat, some veggies, some fruit, limit processed grains and sugar. And, I'll bet, when you look at the cash register receipts, you'll find it's a pretty reasonably priced diet, too.|||Meat if you buy everything n season including the fruits and veggies. Right ow a bag of carrots where I live costs $5/ The same weight in chicken costs P2.50. Since chicken has higher calories, it takes less of it to get the same calories from the carrots. The carrots may fill you up faster because of bulk but you will get hungry faster and need to eat sooner. Combine both and you have healthy meal that will fill you up for a longer period of time.|||Reader,
Where do you live? You can't even get rice for a dollar a pound here. Fruits and vegetables are very expensive but you should eat them vegetarian or not. We spend about $40 a week just on fruit and veggies. Dollar for dollar if you need to feed yourself, eggs are the best source of protein. Rice and beans (or other legumes and grains are the next least expensive staple. Then comes milk. Then comes chicken and a lot of pork is relative inexpensive.
Also, vegetable matter is digested faster so, it passes through your system much quicker and therefore you wind up eating much greater quantities. I have been vegetarian and eaten meat. On the whole, I think it was more expensive to eat vegetarian.
Biggest food ripoffs: Bread...You can bake a loaf that will cost $5.00 for about fifty cents
Cereal...I can't live without it but it costs about 25 cents to make a $5.00 box
Beverages...Drink water and tea mostly.
Grow your own...I always have a garden and don't have to buy much produce in summer.|||meat. because u can eat everything. vegans are picky eaters
they want to know whats in every single cell in food
buying lotsa tofu., egg substitute, soy milk, butter substitute,
and other substitutes will cost u much|||Hi vegetarianism is cheaper in the long run as there are fewer hospital expenses|||Vegetarianism.|||Vegetarianism|||meat|||Meat|||i don't think non of these are cheaper.|||Vegan - There are 4 major categories of food in a plant-based (vegan) diet: legumes, whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. If you are willing to cook most of your own food and shop sensibly, most of these foods are less than $1.00 per pound. A plant-based diet is also higher in fiber, which makes it very filling. Eating these foods, instead of highly processed foods, is better for your health, so you will save money in that way as well.|||meat. makes your life worthless and you die faster, but you live a life worth a billion bucks for teh price of 20 bucks.
Sorry I need them for a project
any answers appreciated thank you very much
x|||roses are red
violets are blue
other animals eat meat
and so can you
But being a vegetarian
seems popular of late
instead of beef or chicken
just veggies on your plate
but please, just make sure
so you don't look like a fool
do it for compassion or health
not just to be cool
and please always remember
whatever you choose to do
that people may be different
but they need lovin' too
so fight for Bambi or Nemo
if that's the right thing to do
Just don't down burn buildings
As PETA wants you to..
Cos cops hate arsonists
and will take you to jail
if they catch you burning a lab
or sending someone hate mail
Because whatever you are
Vegan or vegetarian,it doesn't matter which
It won't do anyone any good
if you're in prison and someones (bleep)|||Most poems by Benjamin Zephaniah. He is a vegan.|||well its not a poem its a song
but meat is murder- the smiths
x|||I'll do you one now... hold on:
There once was a girl called MAU,
and she didn't want to kill a COW,
So she sat with her friend ELLIS,
eating some LETTUICE,
and she calls her self veggy-girl NOW
Oh well I tried!|||LOTS of animal cruelty poems hereee:
http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Sai鈥?/a>
:)|||disgusting|||roses are red violets are blue, meat for me but lentils for you|||Hey how about a song & video????? check out this webpage, these guys are so cool! www.myspace.com/govindasky
they have a song called "Let the Animals Keep Their Coats" & a video with same name. they are also veggies. hope this helps.
peace =>:)
hey, im looking for ideas of different images associated with veganism. im doing this collage thing and the ideas need to be artistic and cartoony..other then food, i have birds fleeing from cages, trees, flowers, nature....but im stumped...any ideas?|||Just root around PETA's website. There's plenty of symbology there. See source for link.
I recently decided to become vegan. I have been for several months now, But I'm finding it difficult to cope with and I believe it's effecting my schoolwork and other such things, but I don't want to quit now because everyone will ask me lots of questions and give me @#$%.
What can I do?|||what do you mean difficult to cope?
perhaps its your diet?
try getting a book on healthy foods for a vegan diet.
You can't survive on side dishes and have to cook yourself main meals that provide protein and iron.
perhaps you should go to your doctor and if you want to be vegan don't let them persuade you but help you to eat better foods. Ask for a blood test to check for iron, protein, calcium, b12, and zinc and more..
if done correctly living on and maintaining a vegan diet is not that hard.
Good luck|||You shouldn't be worried about peoples opinions. Instead you should ask yourself if the hard work your doing is worth it, since your helping animals. If you care about animals then veganism is worth it because you know your not supporting animal cruelty. But if its just health reasons, then you can slip up every once in a while. If youve been vegan for several months, its going to get easier soon. Just keep looking online for recipes so you dont get bored with it. The more you know, the easier it is. Look on PETA's Accidentally Vegan List to get a list of foods that are easy to come by at a grocery store. PETA's opinion about veganism, along with Mercy For Animals, is that if you try to avoid EVERYTHING then its hard on you and makes others see veganism as too difficult. If you boycott products that are 99.9% vegan, then this sends the message to the company that there is no market for these products that contain little to no animal products and they stop making them (causing more animals to suffer). So just try to avoid what you can, but dont go so crazy with it that you stop all together. Good luck!|||What you can do, and should do, is not worry so much about what others think. Is that the problem that's effecting you? Be secure with your choice and let the critic's words slide off of your back like water off a duck's back.
"Veganism, not the right choice?"--all depends. Is your choice more importsnt as you see it, or as "everyone" else sees it?|||Make sure you're eating healthy. Not eating the right amount of fruits and vegetables, along with proteins and vitamins and minerals, can greatly effect your concentration. Make sure that you take some kind of calcium, B-12, and iron supplement. [You can, however, get these from eating the right kinds of vegan foods.]
I get tired of other people's crap too, but I've learned to ignore it. It doesn't matter.|||There's no way a diet will affect your schoolwork unless you're not feeding yourself proper nutrition. The same is true with omnivores...if they eat crap, their studying will also be crap. You need to eat, eat, eat GOOD, HEALTHY food!
So do a little studying...on nutrition...and you'll be fine.|||eat better... you are ingesting fresh fruits and veggies.. right?
learn about what you are eating... most should before they dive into something they don't understand..
ignore the dingbats out there who preach gospels they can't even sing...
whenever someone gives me lip.. i just look up and down them.... then smile.
that does the trick 90% of the time.... (why? because obesity is an unfortunate and now overly common side effect of a processed food and meat diet.)
that's why it fails.|||Research how to stay healthy, what foods to eat. When I first went vegan I didn't do any research and ate fairly unhealthy but after a little I decided not to be slack and fix my diet up haha. Now I feel great, long as you eat decently you'll probably end up better off than before.|||is the diet affecting your schoolwork or the being singled out for being a vegan affecting your schoolwork? if you jumped from an omnivore to a vegan, maybe you should try being a vegetarian first and then go vegan. in this carnivore world its hard to be a vegan, menu planning is so much harder.|||try being a vegetarian. cutting out eggs and dairy is pretty hard. i mean, you cant even have milk chocolate.
btw if your doing this just for a health factor, you dont have to be so strict. its ok to break a rule every now and then.|||Eat lots of beans and corn bread to get your "heavy" nutrients. Eat lots of fresh fruit and veggies. Don't worry about what they or we say. It's your life.|||I'm not sure what you mean by "cope".
Go to the bloody library and get some recipe books, and start cooking. What's all this coping business?|||Get over yourself|||I would see a doctor.
Did you just up and go vegan? Because its best to ease into such a diverse change of diet.|||Eat what you want. Who cares if people will give you ****? Don't let people control you.|||let me write you a prescription for two n.a.d.s.|||I don't think it's effecting schoolwork unless your not eating right.
Did you know the consumption of meat, eggs, and dairy products has also been strongly linked to osteoporosis, Alzheimer's, asthma, and male impotence. Scientists have also found that vegetarians have stronger immune systems than their meat-eating friends; this means that they are less susceptible to everyday illnesses like the flu. Vegetarians and vegans live, on average, six to 10 years longer than meat-eaters.
According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the consumption of meat causes 70 percent of the food poisoning cases in the United States each year. This is not surprising when you consider the fact that meat can be contaminated with a host of dangerous bacteria—including E. coli, salmonella, and campylobacter. Sadly, adults aren’t the only ones who feel the effects of this contaminated food. Recent outbreaks of E. coli have shown that these pathogens can be deadly when consumed by children.
Here are some veggielicious Lunchbox Dishes
* Spread some veggie ham with vegan cream cheese and roll up for a fun and easy-to-eat lunch box treat.
* Make a veggie dog in a blanket—wrap a veggie dog in a crescent roll and bake. Pack ketchup for dipping.
* Create crunchy triple-decker PB&Js: Cut rice or corn cakes in half with a sharp knife and spread on jam and a nut butter, and then top with the other half.
* Spread bread with eggless mayonnaise (try Nayonaise or Vegenaise) and pile on veggie deli slices—such as faux ham, faux turkey, or “phony baloney”—and Tofutti American soy cheese slices (www.Tofutti.com). Cut into triangles or fun shapes using cookie cutters.
* Make a mock chicken-salad sandwich with Morningstar Farms Meal Starters Chik’n Strips or Worthington’s Chic-ketts, available at health-food stores.
* Pack P.B. Slices (www.PBSlices.com), individually wrapped slices of peanut butter, with bread or crackers; kids can combine them at lunchtime.
* On those hectic mornings, toss a Smucker’s frozen PB&J sandwich in your child’s lunchbox; it will be thawed and ready to eat by lunchtime.
* Make burrito roll-ups by spreading tortillas with Tofutti Better Than Cream Cheese; add olives or diced veggies, roll up, and cut into bite-size pieces. Olé!
* Make your own “good lunch” by packing meat-free Smart Deli Pepperoni slices (www.Lightlife.com), soy cheese slices, and crackers.
* Spread a bagel with Tofutti Better Than Cream Cheese, top with veggie pepperoni, and cut into halves or quarters.
* Make a mock tuna-salad sandwich by substituting Worthington’s Tuno (Available at health-food stores or at www.NoMeat.com) for tuna in your favorite recipe.
* For a healthy alternative to egg-salad sandwiches, try eggless “egg” salad: Mash together tofu, soy mayo, turmeric, salt, and spices. Click here for a recipe.
* Pair veggie kebabs (try cherry tomatoes, cucumber slices, sweet peppers, and baked tofu cubes) with “ranch” dip (combine Tofutti Sour Supreme with McCormick Spring Onion Dip Mix—it’s vegan!).
* Cut mini-pitas in half, and stuff them with hummus and chopped tomatoes, falafel, or your favorite sandwich filling.
* Prepare an easy pasta salad by combining cooked spiral pasta with diced cucumbers, tomatoes, and/or peppers and chunks of baked tofu, veggie Canadian bacon, or Morningstar Farms Meal Starters “chicken” or “steak” strips; mix with your favorite vinaigrette.
* “Shake ’N Bake” mock chicken chunks instead of the real thing. Several Shake ’N Bake flavors are vegan—just use chopped Chic-ketts, Morningstar Farms Meal Starters Chik’n Strips, or White Wave’s wheat meat (www.WhiteWave.com); it’s great hot or cold.
* Pack hard breadsticks with dip, such as pizza sauce, peanut butter, or hummus.
* Make a mini pizza by topping toasted English muffins (Wonder Bread-brand muffins are vegan) with a dollop of pizza sauce, a slice of soy cheese, and veggie pepperoni.
Hot Ideas for the Thermos
* Make some homemade “sausage” gravy and pack some biscuits for a comforting cold-weather meal.
* Fill the thermo with veggie meatballs in tomato sauce. Pack it with a roll to make a veggie meatball sub.
* Spice up lunchtime by filling your kids' thermos with vegan taco meat or refried beans. Pack taco shells and their favorite taco toppings. Try Tofutti Sour Supreme and salsa.
* Warm your kids up on cold winter days by heating Hormel canned vegetarian chili and packing it in a thermos. Pack a baked potato so they can top their spuds.
* For another easy heat-and-eat treat, try Campbell’s tomato or vegetable soup. (Please be sure to check labels—some soups contain beef or chicken broth.)
* When you have a little more time, make alphabet soup using vegetable or faux-chicken broth instead of chicken stock and diced mock chicken. Make a pot over the weekend, then reheat it on Monday morning to start your kids’ week off right.
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has anybody got any recent youtube videos from england about veganism and cruelty towards the animals we use for food? ive seen earthlings, but its an old video and its from america. any recent research would be good too.|||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMyJNR2Dr鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erQKWPvpN鈥?/a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfhzi0BEu鈥?/a>
There you go (:|||marissa.
the first one did not work, the 2nd one is awesome! i especially liked the dog and the political sign flash clip!
the 3rd was good for teens!
yay!!
So, if you are a vegan for ethical and not health reasons - could you eat cheese and other food products made from human breast milk since the woman gave her 'permission' to be milked.
Yeah, weird, but purely hypothetical. I'm not asking if you could eat the product, only if it would be permissible.|||oh yum, that sounds so veganly delicious
my guess is these "vegans" have never seen a dairy cow with utters so swollen she can hardly wait her turn to be milked... cows like being emptied too, ya know...|||I am off and on again vegan for ethical reasons and that totally doesn't appeal to me at all. Vegans don't eat anything that came from an animal, so "technically" I don't think it would be vegan, but ethically I think it would be okay. Regardless, you won't ever find me eating anything like that - although in reality it *does* make more sense than eating foods from cow's breast milk, lol.
"my guess is these "vegans" have never seen a dairy cow with utters so swollen she can hardly wait her turn to be milked... cows like being emptied too, ya know..." - It's a vicious cycle, really. If cows milk wasn't used for human consumption there wouldn't be dairy cows with swollen udders as their calves wouldn't have been ripped from them at birth for veal. If mama keeps her baby cow and it weans itself as it ages - no swollen udders.|||I think since one is already eating lots and lots of bugs and probably has at least one real-leather something or other (car interior, chair, wallet, shoes...), that the "made from breast milk" would probably be a lesser worry.
I'm vegan and whenever I talk to my dad about the health benefits of being vegetarian, he always brings up this same point. It's around the lines of this:
"If vegatarianism/veganism is so healthy, then why aren't the world's best athletes vegetarians? They're at the peak of physical fitness. Wouldn't you think their nutritionists would seek out the best diet possible to improve the athlete's endurance?"
I did a little research on olympic athletes who are vegetarians and all I came up with was this guy named Carl Lewis. Does anybody know anything else about professional athletes and the vegetarian diet? |||Vegetarian athletes
Ruth Heidrich, Three-Time Ironman
Debbie Lawrence, 5k Record Holder
Jim Kaat, Baseball Player
Tony Larussa, Baseball Manager
Hank Aaron, Baseball Player
Bill Pearl, Bodybuilder
Marv Levey, Buffalo Bills Coach
Robert Parnish, Center (Bulls)
Joe Namath, Football Player
Lawrence Phillips, Football Player (49ers)
Steve Bellamy, Founder of the Tennis Channel
Surya Bonaly, French Figure Skater
Brendan Brazier, Ironman Triathlete
Sally Eastall, Marathon Runner
Andreas Cahling, Mr. International Bodybuilder
Carl Lewis, Olympic Track Star
Edwin Moses, Olympic Champion
Leroy Burrell, Olympic Champion
Murray Rose, Olympic Swimmer
Pat Reeves, Power Lifter
Bill Manetti, Powerlifting Champion
Ed Templeton, Pro Skateboarder
Mike Manzoori, Pro Skateboarder
Brian Anderson, Pro Skateboarder
Jamie Thomas, Pro Skateboarder
Forest Kirby, Pro Skateboarder
Brian Sumner, Pro Skateboarder
Andrew Reynolds, Pro Skateboarder
Jen O'brien, Pro Skateboarder
Matt Field, Pro Skateboarder
Chris Lambert, Pro Skateboarder
Brad Staba, Pro Skateboarder
Geoff Rowley, Pro Skateboarder
Rick Mc Crank, Pro Skateboarder
Moses Itkonen, Pro Skateboarder
Sergei Trudnowski, Pro Skateboarder
Laban Pheidas, Proskater
Steve Berra, Proskater
Anastasia Ashley, Surfer
Martina Navratilova, Tennis Player
Bille Jean King, Tennis Champion
Peter Burwash, Tennis Champion
John Salley, Toronto Raptors
Lucy Stephens, Tri-athlete
Stan Price, World Record Bench Press
Killer Kowalski, Wrestler
Is he a football fan? Just show him this:
"I have been a vegetarian for a few years. Fred Dryer of the Rams has been one for ten years. It shows you don't need meat to play football."
-JOE NAMATH, LEGENDARY NFL QUARTERBACK.
|||There is an article of a vegan body builder. I'll find it for you.
http://blog.nutritiondata.com/ndblog/200鈥?/a>
Given that the veganism constitute only a small percentage of the population along with professional sports, testimonies such as these will be uncommon. But given that they exist shows that atheletes can survive on a vegetarian diet.
Anyways, he's wrong. Famous professional athletes:
Surya Bonaly - Olympac figure skater
Roger Brown, professional football player
Peter Burwash, tennis pro, Davis Cup winner|||Huh? Sorry, the logic just isn't there.
Here are some other examples.
You can't just shrug these off.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sto鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.macdanzig.net/bio.php
http://www.scottjurek.com/career.php
It sounds like you have been telling your dad that being vegetarian is **HEALTHIER** instead of just as good as any other diet.
Just because someone eats meat, it doesn't mean that they'll eat enough to kill themselves prematurely.
Make sure it's clear that chemically and physiologically, both sides can be optimum but your side contributes to less suffering.
Let's get this straight, there are no health benefits to being vegetarian there are only health benefits to eating a **healthy** diet. Someone that eats meat once a month is not a vegetarian. Some people eat meat less than often and some do very frequently but live very long lives. Using the health argument is like trying to set yourself up to look bad.
http://www.veganoutreach.org
http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/in鈥?/a>|||Salim Stoudimire is an NBA basketball player, Desmond Howard won the Heisman Trophy and Super Bowl MVP, Scott Jurek is a champion long distance ultra marathon runner. Stan Price is a champion weight lifter. With Carl Lewis Price and Jurek it shows you can be vegan or vegetarian and be strong fast and have endurance. |||Vegans/vegetarians comprise a small percentage of the population. If you apply the same statistics to athletes, then it stands to reason that there won't be too many vegan/vegetarian athletes. At least no more than the general population proportion.
But a country like India would definitely have a greater percentage since it has a larger proportion of vegans/vegetarians in its general population.
Again, it will come down to individual choice.
|||Are you kidding me? Tell you dad to get a new argument. There are TONS of veg*n athletes.
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/
http://www.veganathlete.com/vegan_vegeta鈥?/a>
http://sportyvegans.blogspot.com/2008/01鈥?/a>
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sto鈥?/a>|||Carl Lewis is a pretty impressive one, given that he's a nine-time Olympic gold medalist, SI's "Olympian of the Century," and the IOC's "Sportsman of the Century." His first season as a vegan he traded the title of "World's Fastest Human" back and forth with another runner (I'd have to dig around to find out who) wha was also vegan.
Ruth Heidrich and Brendan Brazier, both Ironman triathlon champions, are vegan.
Prince Fielder, a baseball player, just recently went veg*n (vegan, I think, possibly vegetarian) as did football player, Tony Gonzalez. Mac Danzig, a vegan, won his weight class in the UFC last year. If you google "vegan bodybuilding" you'll find several sites.
You'll find some more here:
http://www.famousveggie.com/people.aspx
and here:
http://www.ivu.org/people/sports/index.h鈥?/a>|||Martina Navratilova was vegan throughout her career, and I think we know how successful a tennis player she has been.
Pat Reeves, champion body builder, is likewise a vegan.
Most athletes do not receive education from vegan nutritionists, nor are the benefits of a vegan diet widely known or publicised in sport at present. The nutritionists who work with these athletes then don't know about vegan diets, and so this isn't passed on to the athletes.This is despite the benefits this may have for them.
Oh, and it's also worth thinking about the health sacrifices some athletes make, in terms of eating a meat and protein rich diet in their youth. This can cause them severe health problems after finishing their careers. Sad that most don't know that this can happen. Add that to a proportion of athletes that sadly use drugs to enhance performance, and it's clear that that "picture of health" athletes visibly present may not be what's going on on in the inside.
I had lunch today with a couple of friends and their baby daughter. She's 5 months old and soon ready to have solids.
My friends are hardcore vegans concerning food,lifestyle etc,and I've always admired them for their convictions.
They told me they plan to raise their baby on a vegan diet.
Obviously, I have no right to comment on the baby's up-bringing but it does intrigues me.
Certainly, Veganism is a strong diet and you have to be careful to have enough nutrients and proteins to stay healthy. But a baby?
Do you know any baby on a vegan diet? What are your opinions?|||Actually, we are omnivores, not carnivores! we can eat a wide diet.
It is possible to raise a healthy baby on a vegan diet but it also incredibly difficult- especially when it comes to calcium. Protein is easier to replace.
But, if she is being breastfed, then there is no issue. Her mum will be making enough calcium (and other nutrients) to meet the baby's needs.
Without breastfeeding it would be very difficult and they would need to keep a close eye on her growth and development and be prepared to change her diet if necessary.
Personally, I don't agree with forcing your children to be vegan or vegetarian. A choice like this should be there own. However, I don't believe there is anything wrong with simply only providing the food which fits into your belief system, in your home. As long as the baby continues to grow well and healthily, there should be no problem. |||As a vegetarian -- who was a vegetarian baby and who now has a vegetarian baby -- I am reluctant to dump on bringing children up vegan, but. As succinctly put here:
"I鈥檓 not against adult or older-child vegan lifestyles
but nutritionwise, babies are not meant to be
vegans"
http://www.babyreference.com/BeyondBreas鈥?/a>
Even Dr Spock didn't advise veganism for children under 2 after he went very pro-vegan...
Is baby breastfed, will baby keep nursing through the toddler years? That would make the matter of less concern if yes.|||yes, i know a mother of 7 and nowadays the youngest is lik 12 years old, and they are all very healthy. you just have to be really careful and make sure you eat all the nutrients to be healthy. and the baby, they should just breastfeed her until she's 2 or so and she will be good. |||They are sick, the human body is a Carnivore, weather we like it or not, we are just like any other animal on this planet that is Carnivore
Thats why our teeth are the way they are.
To me, they are guilty of neglect.
Once the child grows up he/she can make up there own mind, it is not for any parent to choose for their child NOT to follow nature
*edit*
lol Laura@FYP, love your answer!!!!|||As long as they do this in coordination with the baby's doctor and get regular advice and check-ups, I don't see why not.
I would not do it myself as I'm not vegetarian, I have no experience of veganism (would probably only succeed in starving the whole family) and basically, we all love a good steak at times! Baby too.|||Paul C is 100% right, it is not for a parent to force their child to go against nature and impose their own views on the baby|||i was veggie for ten years, but i would never have brought my baby up as one. i believe that it is a personal choice and when the child is old enough to understand then they can make their own decisions then. i think that a vegan diet for a baby is too extreme.|||I have 3 nieces who are being raised vegan and they're happy, healthy and doing fine. When you're vegan or raising your children as vegans you have to be sure to take extra care and make sure all their nutritional needs are met. Calcium is found in plants, not just dairy. Green leafy vegetables such as broccoli, collards, kale, mustard greens, turnip greens, and bok choy or Chinese cabbage are good sources of calcium. As for protein? Beans, nuts, legumes. So raising a child as a vegan can be done.
And why is it considered natural to eat animals to begin with? I don't have a problem with people who choose to eat animals but I have a problem with people putting down those of us who choose not to and who choose to raise their children not eating animals. You never hear of "mad vegetable disease" or any other life threatening disease as a result of eating vegetables. But it seems like every other day there's some sort of disease found that makes animals unsafe. And how many vegetarians do you know that are morbidly obese? Just some of the advantages of being a vegetarian. But we MUST be wrong to even consider raising our children that way. We're depriving them of the many diseases that could potentially ruin their lives and possibly kill them. My bad.
And by the way, humans weren't always carnivores. The fact that our teeth are the way they are is an adaptation. We used to be vegans but that's a different topic...
|||Humans are not carnivores!! We are omnivores- we can survive on a meat or plant based diet.
And yes, I see Pauls point, our teeth are EXACTLY like a lion or dogs *note the sarcasm*
I was vegan throughout my pregnancy, and we are currently raising our daughter as a vegetarian. However, raising her as vegan is something we are considering. She is still breastfed, and I consider her diet to be a very healthy one.
Humans were never designed to need the milk of another species. We are the only species to consume the milk of another on a regular basis, and the only species to comsume it after infancy. That is a cultural habit that has developed during civilisation. Cows milk is not necessary for nutrition.
The calcium factor is one that has been engrained and pushed on us by milk companies.
And as for cooked meat, well dont even get me started! lol If we are really carnivores as Paul suggests, why dont we eat flesh in the raw a the other carnivores do? No, we have to cook it first, killing off any nutrients it may contain anyway. When was the last time you chowed down on a raw steak Paul?
It is perfectly possible for an infant to thrive on a vegan diet, I would say it is very important that she is being breastfed however, which I am guessing that she is.
it's way weird
very very strange eating rules
~|||The reason why they believe it is wrong is because Humans are Self Aware, we know that we exist and give reasons to why we feel pain, joy, and such. Most people do not know that we are indeed animals, we all eat, breath, and mate but we are above other animals so people do not consider themselves so.
Some see that perspective and say, Hey it is wrong to hurt animals they feel pain too! Well the thing is even without humans they will still eat each other,
BUT it is true the methods for slaughtering animals are cruel and inhuman because again most humans do not care for animals because we think we are above them.
The mental part aside - It is an interesting way to live life because humans can eat meat but do not need to because we can simply substitute it with Soy for protein but there are still some things that do not come with vegetables such as Carbohydrates and such.|||If that is the lifestyle that you want to follow go for it. Just please, don't hammer on other people for their lifestyle choices. I am a meat eater and the Bible tells me I can be. If you have a different slant on things, fine. I won't push meat eating on you if you won't try and tell me how wrong I am because I do eat meat.|||I think it is rather counter productive. I understand the need to be vegetarian (for health reasons and "for the animals") but milk and eggs are relatively harmless biproducts (if from the correct farms)
It makes nurtrition a little harder than it needs to be, but I applaud those who do it.|||I'm gonna eat my dead animal...You eat what ever that is. Don't bother me about your choices and I won't slap you with what ever dead thing I happen to be eating at the time. Good? Good.|||Being vegan can be soo healthy but you have to make sure you are getting all your benefits like protein and different calciums because it's only so important for your health.|||I think its fine for the people who want to do it
idk why people have so many "opinions" on what others do anyway|||I don't have anything against it or people who are vegan.|||It is up to the people who follow that style.
Not for me though.|||They kill plants
i'm vegan. what are the reasons you are vegan? just outt of interest|||FOR THE ANIMALS:
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Today the majority of farmed animals are:
-confined to the point that they can barely move,
-denied veterinary care,
-mutilated without painkillers,
-and finally slaughtered often while fully conscious.
FOR OUR EARTH:
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According to Dr. David Brubaker, PhD, at Johns Hopkins University’s Center for a Livable Future, “The way that we breed animals for food is a threat to the planet. It pollutes our environment while consuming huge amounts of water, grain, petroleum, pesticides and drugs. The results are disastrous.”
FOR MY HEALTH:
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“Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein, as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer.”
--American Dietetic Association, June 2003 position paper|||I went vegetarian because my body could no longer tolerate meat, and I got truly disgusted by some things I read.
I went vegan a few months later when I learned of the dairy-veal connection, how the cows kept for their milk are treated, and how the hens kept for their eggs are treated.|||I dont think what they do to animals is right but the biggest reason is my health. There are so many steriods, and medicine and crap loaded up in the animals that your not really eating meat. Its like man made meat|||Ethical reasons mainly. I hated calling myself an avid animal lover yet still consumed animal products. I hate the fact that billions of animals are killed horribly just for my taste buds and my convenience.|||I refuse to support the meat industry, I do it for my health, and the enviornment.|||I am vegan because I refuse to support the meat industry.|||The way the meat industry treats animals...it's horrid.|||becuase i am, i needed a reason?
I've heard of a level 5 vegan but I'm not sure what it means.|||I am not sure I'm just starting out myself. I found a very interesting website
http://www.fourgreensteps.com/infozone/lifestyle-health/what-vegans-eat-article|||Its a quote from the simpsons when Lisa befriends Jesse the tree hugging vegan & Lisa stays up a tree to impress him by stopping it being cut down.
The whole scene (can be youtubed) is actually extremely smart & shows the simpsons humor & writing skills, they portray a stereotypical vegan spot on, but within that stereotype the writing is aimed at ridiculing people for holding stereotypes.
Lisa: ''oh you do yoga?''
Jesse: ''yeah but i was doing it before it was cool''
*Further on in the scene*
Jesse: ''i'm a level 5 vegan, i won't eat anything that casts a shadow''
Lisa: ''Cool, i'm a vegetarian''
Jesse: 'awkwardly laughs whilst rubbing neck ''Yeah...well its a start''|||Urm, no.
There's someone who opposes animal commodification, and lives a lifestyle *not* involving:
buying or consuming meat, dairy, eggs, honey, or foods containing them
buying or wearing fur, leather, silk, wool, or clothing trimmed in them
buying or using consumer products from companies whose distributors conduct animal toxicity tests
buying companion animals from breeders or pet shops
frequenting zoos, circuses, rodeos, aquariums, and other venues where animals are held in captivity or forced to perform for human profit,
and then there are NON-vegans.|||No.
Did it come from this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtuMIaOGR…
Of course not. There are different types of Vegans, but not levels.
There's Vegan, Raw Vegan, Fruitarian but not a level 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. You can name yourself one but it doesn't mean it exists.|||I havent found anything substantial to support that notion. From what I understand, a vegan is one who will only eat vegetables, fruits, nuts, and seeds.|||That Level Five Vegan? That was a joke from the Simpsons. There aren't "levels," but there are some types.
The most common types are standard vegan, raw vegan, and fruitarian.|||Level five?
Pft, I got to level 6 by defeating the Broccoli Demon.|||Nope, a vegan is a vegan. There are levels of vegetarianism though.|||A level 5 vegan doesn't eat anything that casts a shadow. It's a quote from "The Simpsons." They also pocket mulch.|||Not sure if there are different level but vegan is already pretty stream.|||Well there is vegan diet only and vegan lifestyle where you don't wear leather etc.|||Yeah right, the Simpsons is a great source of facts
This is a troll right, surely you're not really that stupid|||Yes there are 5 levels or more.
I've just changed to veganism Sunday.
I've tried vegetarian before, but it didn't last long.
But this time I cannot stand to eat any meat, it disgusts me.
Its been hard though... mainly because I haven't told my parents yet, and so i've been eating the side dishes without protein for a week.
What way did you let your parents know about wanting to be a vegan?
And i'm on a budget when buying food.
What are some cheap vegan products?|||Well I've been a vegetarian for a year, and when I turn 18, in about 3 years, I want to go vegan...since I can buy my own food. I'd first tell them you want to be a vegetarian, and then gradually go into veganism. I would make a packet of research on your choice, that's what I did. And my parents and I read the book "A Teenager's Guide to going vegetarian." (Look on amazon!) It's a good book!
PROTEIN:
Nuts, beans, edamame, soymilk, PB, fruit|||go to burger king a get a burger
you know you want to|||how do you know you've not been eating protein?
it's real hard to avoid protein since it's in almost everything.
watch out for vegan products... some aren't vegan friendly.
(read those labels.. )
learn what those chemicals and additives mean on those labels.. (jot them down then research them in google.com)
also start here.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=鈥?/a>
don't listen to the propaganda.. i've been a vegetarian for a long time (no meat... no dairy) i've not suffered a protein issue.. matter of fact i have an abundance of protein and should cut down on it...
BEANS! SOY! NUTS! jam packed to the hilt with protein... some of your green vegetables.. leafy and not.. packed! some fruits are jammed with protein.
it's not a issue.. whoever started this protein fabrication about veganism and vegetarianism.. is probably the same guy who started telling kids that smoking pot makes you grow boobs.|||First off, go to the book store and buy a bunch of books on veganism and starting off. If you are seriously about being a vegan, i would strongly suggest going to see a nutritionalist -- they will be able to help you know which foods to eat and vitamins to take in order to maintain a balanced diet.
I have been veggie for 13 years now and love it, but i would suggest you start with being a vegetarian for a while, see how that goes and learn the ropes and then make the jump to veganism in a bit when you have a better grasp on things.
Please be careful in the meantime about taking a good multivitamin (you need the B complex especially b-12 as well as calcium). Also, make sure you aren't eating just junk food and carbs. Dark greens like spinach and broc have a lot of calcium so eat your greens!|||Congrats on trying to eat healthier. You need to get some protein though. Try VeganEssentials.com for some reasonably priced meals that you can cook yourself. You can buy tofu, beans (check the labels for lard), brown rice, tempheh, Garden Burgers, seitan. I didn't have to tell my parents because I was not living with them when I became a vegan.|||My parents were very open to the fact that I became a vegetarian. Vegetarianism is becoming so common these days for a variety of reasons, the biggest being health. You're parents might question your decision at first, especially since so many people are still stuck on the idea that you have to eat meat to be healthy, and get all your nutrients. But this is a myth. If you come to your parents with a good knowelege of vegetarianism, then they will probably be more accepting. Also, it may be hard, because your parents, who I assume cook a lot of your meals, will have to learn to cook vegetarian meals for you after only cooking meat their whole lives...so offer your help with meals. This is your decision, so don't let it rest all on their shoulders.
As far as cheap vegan products, my favorites are tofu (which possibilities are endless, b/c it takes on the taste of anything you cook it with), and beans, peas, and legumes. All of the simulated meat products can be very expensive, so stay away from these if you are looking to save money.|||I'm not vegan but when I became vegetarian I told my parents like this..... I don't eat meat any more, I'm a vegetarian.
But of course I am thirty four so it wasn't a big deal....
Mom naturaly said, "What are you on a diet for, you don't need to lose any weight?" to which I replied, "I don't want to have a heart attack like papa did, he was dead for three minutes and I thought that was it. I don't want that to be me one day." end of story, problem solved. We have not discussed it as a diet since. Now she only asks how's my health, to which I reply, "My energy skyrocketed, it's like I'm nineteen." and we both laugh.
Parents worry, but when you are in better health, they will know, they always do.|||Tofutti and MorningStar are two good brands.
I have been vegetarian for a long while now and am planning to go Vegan when I am 18 just have to be able to buy my own food.
and you haven't been vegan if you are just useing normal bread for your sandwhiches cause i believe it has milk or eggs in it.|||I just told my mom. We were in the middle of a conversation about a show we were watching and I just said it like it wasnt completely random.|||There are a lot of low cost alternatives to faux and fake meats out there. First off, tofu is very cheap, Usually around $1.50 at most super markets. Secondly, The BULK food section at the supermarket can be your best friend. There are tons of proteins like beans, nuts and cereals and flours there for you to get that usually run around 69垄 a pound better than the $4.99 for that fake meat. Trying to incorporate more WHOLE foods in your diet will be much better than just eating a lot of prepared foods.
There is a great pod cast on iTunes called Vegetarian Food for thought that covers how to deal with your parents and becoming a vegetarian. She also has a whole podcast dedicated to kids and teens.
Also, try to get the book, Becoming Vegan by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina. This book tells you all the vitamins you need to have and proteins as well as a great section all about teens being vegan and what the need to stay healthy. It was a life saver for me in the beginning. Not a lot of recipes but great reference for many years.
Lastly go to a local natural food co-op in your neighborhood. They usually have young people there that are knowledgeable on what to get to eat on a budget.
Just remember to stay informed and healthy and let your body tell you what it needs. There is no vegetarian police and just do the best you can do for that day. If you happen to eat meat one day, just try the next day to not do it.
Good luck with your journey, there is a ton of new and exciting food out there for you to try.
PS.... Peanut butter cravings are sometimes your bodys' way of telling you it need more protein. I learned that when i had Survival training.|||There is a Japanese analogy/proverb that goes like this, "The nail that sticks up is the one that gets hammered down". People are like this everywhere. When you tell your family that it is your personal belief that animals should not be eaten, they take a look at themselves and it can be subconsciously translated into, "What you do is wrong and I choose to be right." A good chunk of the population has been brainwashed into believing that veganism is an excuse to be anorexic or a way of rebelling by slowing killing oneself. Be prepared to get some strong resistance.
Your parents have probably been taught a huge amount of misinformation by their parents and their teachers while growing up. You really need to research vegetarian diets and health before you even think about saying the "V-word" in front of your parents or anyone else.
When you have gathered enough information and feel confident in a vegetarian diet's ability to maintain or even improve health, you may mention to them that you have made the decision. They may be shocked, angry, worried, curious or many other things, but you must NEVER react to their behavior and always stay calm. If they are able to speak to you and respect your choice, please tell them everything and answer all questions. If they are rude, inconsiderate, judgmental, violent, or verbally abusive, refuse to continue any conversation until they can speak to you with respect.
The best advice is to study everything that you can about a healthy vegetarian diet and keep yourself in good shape (better than most people your age or than your friends/family if possible). If nobody that you know shows a genuine, positive interest in your choice, don't give them the privilege of the knowledge that you have gathered. Work your way around any attempts they make to trivialize your beliefs and if possible, go shopping with your parents and buy things that aren't obvious veggie fare. Instead of trying to sneak fake meat into the cart, toss in lentil soup, peanut butter, pasta, fruits & veggies or anything else that you have learned is needed to fill any gaps in your diet.
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That is great that you want to become vegan. My biggest word of advice is to study a balanced vegan diet and learn how to cook/prepare everything that you will need to keep yourself satisfied BEFORE you start to label yourself as vegan. This is important in keeping yourself healthy and working towards a fit body that can redefine vegan stereotypes.
Your journey as vegetarian was just the beginning of a longer one to a plant-based diet with no animal products. This should be due to the reality of factory farming in which animals that are kept alive to produce milk, eggs, etc suffer much more and longer than animals that are raised to a certain weight and then slaughtered.http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/
http://meat.org
Some people use the word "vegan" in reference to this idea, but be aware that applying that label to yourself should always come with the inclusion of wise activism and advocacy.http://www.veganoutreach.org/advocacy/in鈥?/a>
Two extremely important examples of this are that you should never speak to someone about vegetarianism/veganism without their consent and genuine interest or as a comment on what they are eating AND your dietary beliefs should never be used as an introduction or explanation of who you are as a person. Veg*ism should be something that comes up AFTER people get to know you and they offer you a situation that makes it confusing to withhold the information/discussion. Also, if you are presented something that you choose not to eat or you are
ordering food/eating together somewhere/picking the best place to eat.
A responsible vegan ALWAYS studies the subject of their own health and how to keep their body completely provided for in every sense. http://www.veganhealth.org/sh
To neglect their body is to define a plant-based diet as unhealthy and is the opposite of helping the animals.
When you you hold off on the subject until it's necessary and then act like it isn't a big deal at all, people are usually surprised and WAY more interested and curious than if you were to bring it up when someone's eating or just using it as a conversation starter.
A balanced plant-based diet includes grains(breads, pasta, rice,cereal), legumes(soy, beans, peas, lentils), fruit and vegetables.
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vsk/f鈥?/a>
http://www.peta.org/accidentallyVegan/
http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/ea鈥?/a>
Being vegan can be an art, one whose challenge is to take things that involve the suffering of the innocent and change them into something free of cruelty.
A vegan woman can create an ENTIRELY NEW,HEALTHY HUMAN BEING INSIDE OF HER. Many of these children stay vegan and grow up to be perfectly healthy adults. So just keep yourself educated about what you eat and don't let anyone tell you that a veg diet is lacking anything essential.
Technically the term "vegetarian" does imply that you don't consume anything that comes from the body of an animal that requires killing it. Many ingredients such as gelatin and glycerin are found in many candies, Fig-Newtons, and many of other foods as well as rennet found in many cheeses.
http://www.happycow.net/health-animal-in鈥?/a>
The best thing to remember is to take your time so that for example: when you are comfortable not eating whey and casein you can then give up sodium stearoyl lactylate and L-cysteine when you are sure you can make the commitment permanently.
Depending on your age or reliance on parents or regional options, it may not be best to give yourself a label. The important thing is to do your best to make progress and be committed to your compassion towards animals. Never put your focus onto what you or other people use to describe yourself.
If you meet someone that talks down to people for eating meat, dairy, etc or to you because they think they are "more veg" than you, laugh in their face and tell them they are a disgrace to the entire philosophy. People like this only hurt the idea of veg*ism AND the animals. The point of all of this is to live compassionately and and as free from cruelty as you can, all the while maintaining your health and a positive attitude. People who don't maintain either, need not open their mouths and represent our beliefs.
If you actually choose to read all of this, I hope it helps. If not, feel free to e-mail me if you have questions.
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I'm vegan and these are some of my favorite things to eat:
Breakfast: bananas, cream of wheat with brown sugar and soy butter, cereal, pancakes or french toast with real maple syrup, vegan "sausage" patties, smoothies.
Snack: BRUSSEL SPROUTS =) no joke
Lunch: vegan "sausage" sandwiches, sandwiches with vegan deli slices(Tofurkey is the only one that's kinda funky), fruit, dinner leftovers, couscous salad, vegan sushi, potato or pasta salad.
Dinner: sloppy joes, "sausage" and gravy with homemade biscuits, Spaghetti and Trader Joe's "meatballs" or TVP, lasagna, Thai pad see ew, pad khi mao(drunkard's noodles), pad prig king, tofu+eggplant with basil sauce, yellow thai curry with tofu or vegan chikn and veggies and jasmine rice, Indian dal with homemade roti or dosai, channa masala, aloo gobi, vegetable or minestrone soup, pizza, STEAMED "PORK" BUNS with potstickers or spring rolls, sweet&sour/orange/lemon chikn, vegan pho or wonton soup, baked tofu, BBQ homemade seitan (tastes like BBQ'd ribs), kabobs
I use these sites to find recipes:
http://www.foodnetwork.com
http://vegweb.com
http://www.recipezaar.com
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There have been vegan Olympic gold medalists and a vegan woman can create an ENTIRELY NEW,HEALTHY HUMAN BEING INSIDE OF HER. Many of these children stay vegan and grow up to be perfectly healthy adults. So just keep yourself educated about what you eat and don't let anyone tell you that a veg diet is lacking anything essential.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Lewis
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada鈥?/a>
Here are some more veg people:
http://www.mikemahler.com/index.html
http://www.vegetarianbodybuilder.com/ind鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=b鈥?/a>
http://www.andreascahling.com/andreas-ab鈥?/a>
http://www.billpearl.com/career.asp
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-23鈥?/a>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Danzig
http://www.scottjurek.com/career.php
http://www.nfl.com/players/rickywilliams鈥?/a>
http://www.brendanbrazier.com/raceresult鈥?/a>|||Being a vegan is not as complicated as you may think.
Protein is in all foods, not just meat and dairy, so don't feel that you are depriving yourself of something that you are already eating.
Also you don't need to buy vegan products, as such.
If you have a food wizz, put about ten different veggies into the machine with some herbs and spices to suit your taste.Put all these pulverized veggies in a big pot and cook for a short time. Presto, a delicious soup.
Also don't regard your vegies as a side dish, make them a meal of stir fry.
Bok Choy, onion,carrot, broccoli, corn,cabbage.A liitle bit of water, quick stir fry the vegies, and season to taste.
Fruit & Veg is very economical, along with your grains. you will get better at enhancing the meals as you vary them.
It's not hard to tell others that you are changing your eating patterns, after all it's your stomach and entestines|||I didn't have to =D
They were and I was raised a Vegetarian
And I am glad I was
could someone give me sources on this?
not opinions but website please.|||Vegan diet is only unhealthy, if you don't do it the right.
Some people HAVE to be vegan because they are allergic to animal protein including dairy (even to breast milk), seafood and honey.
If you have doubts, go to a nutritionist and work out a plan. S/he can give you a list of what food have what and a list of supplement that you can take (for like B12). Go to you doctor and tell s/he that would like to see a nutritionist to make sure you are eating right.|||Lies by the government, my friend.
they want us fat and dumb.
I'm 16, been a vegetarian since feb. (i cut out milk first in place for a cholesterol free, VERY healthy and delicious soymilk), and recently turned vegan, and i LOVE it.
just buy Yves Vegan Dogs, theres your protein, and of course you can eat beans, rice, etc for protein.
If your worried about Vitamin B-12, you can get organic supplements :)
<3
For the Animals,
~Amber~|||There are websites going both ways, depending on who is making them. I'd suggest you see a dietician if you have any concerns about your health.|||its good to be a veg. why? cause being a vegan/vegetarian wont make you fat and obese hah.
and eatting meat isnt all that healthy either. sooooo. THINK ABOUT IT.|||If you are looking for definitive answers, it's not a website you should be looking at but reading the ayurvedic literature about veganism. It's only the naive who look for "websites" for the ancient wisdom.
But I can tell you, it is unhealthy for the wannabe vegans because they haven't studied the ancient texts and learned the wisdom. Also they are not part of the spiritual path of true veganism and so they rely on modern books, or look at it as rescuing animals, etc. No wonder they have to take supplements or are weak and sickly in mind and body.
True veganism is extremely healthy for your body and soul.|||No diet is absolutely or automatically healthy if done incorrectly. The body needs nutrients period. You need to know what those are and find ways to supply them in amounts that the body requires. (excess is obviously just as bad as deprivation) A vegan diet can be unhealthy if you choose to eat foods that don't supply what your body requires. It's that simple. (of course finding the correct foods which fit the vegan philisophy MIGHT be difficult in certain areas and situations).You don't need a website to tell you that.|||Read this :
First of all let's be clear what a vegan is. it is NOT another term for a vegetarian. It is a specific subset of vegetarians who, for whatever reason, have chosen to exclude ALL animal products.
To me this is an absolute prescription for disaster. There is absolutely no basis in science to support this radical position. If a person chooses to be a vegan for moral or religious reasons that could certainly not be argued but it still will not prevent them for suffering the consequences of choosing to avoid all animal protein.
One of the most common problems are permanent neurological complications, like blindness, from a vitamin B12 deficiency. One could take supplements for this but this is not as good as consuming the real deal.
Most vegans I have seen are terribly unhealthy. There are some people who absolutely designed to be vegetarians but even carb types require animal protein. This could be something as simple as fish, eggs or dairy.
So my warning to ALL vegans is to seriously reexamine why you are destroying your body by your food choices and get back on some animal protein ASAP. Remember that nearly ALL of the reported problems with consuming animal protein or meat is because it was cooked. Virtually all of these problems can be eliminated if you consume healthy animal protein sources uncooked.
I found it on this link!
http://vitalvotes.com/QA/Is-Veganism-Hea鈥?/a>|||Well, vegan diets can be low in levels of protein, calcium, iodine, vitamin B12 and vitamin D, so it's suggested to plan the diet and take dietary supplements. But it's healthy. Just thta you have to be very careful to watch out for any product that contains animal products. Vegans avoid meat, poultry, seafood, eggs, dairy products, honey, fur, leather, wool.|||There really isn't a definitive answer.
Don't do it though.
Your digestive system will not know what to do with the bile and stuff that is used to break down meat so it will build up and you will get nasty stones.|||animal proteins are bad news. http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html
we've been raised to believe we need animal protein, but nothing could be further from the truth.
I live a pretty healthy lifestyle- I exercise regularly, don鈥檛 eat sugar, I eat whole grain foods, mostly organic fruits and vegetables. I take calcium and iron pills daily, but even though, whenever I try to donate blood they won鈥檛 accept it-they test it first, and then say that it doesn鈥檛 contain enough iron鈥?why the **** am I shaking all the time?
Is it because of me being vegan and lacking iron, or for the reason that I drink and smoke. I used to consume a lot of alcohol, especially vodka, when I was younger, almost on a daily basis. Now, I only drink it on weekends, and I drink beer and wine sometimes during the week. I don鈥檛 smoke grass real often, and I smoke everyday about 2 cigs and on weekends more.
People always remark about this, they think I do it since nervous, my friends always laugh about it. Please help! What can I do to treat it?|||If your iron is low then you need to get a supplement for it. This is your problem!|||i thk they r really jus givin u an excuse for nt allowing u to donate ur blood becus u hav drug in ur bloodstream...did tat ever occured to u? Im sure u knw tat its harmful to other ppl.|||If you want to treat your shaking, lay off the cigarettes, the grass and the drinking. That will start to cure you. You can't say that you live a healthy lifestyle when you are putting toxins like that into your body. It also sounds like you might want to get some Iron into your body. If you are low iron you are anemic. Most iron comes from animal meat, the red kind like beef. Since you are vegan you should go to the store and pick up a vitamin to help you get your iron. Ask the pharmacists there to help you find the iron that will work well for you. Take care of yourself. You only get one body!
on the one hand, veganism saves animals and reduces carbon dioxide emissions, global warming etc...but i read on wikipedia that Steven Davis, Professor of animal science at Oregon State University argues that more wild animals die of crop production than in ruminent pasture farming. Apparently if all of the crop lands in the US were used for vegan crops, it is estimated that around 1.8 billion animals would be killed annually.
What do you think of this? is it still better to be vegan? I'm seriously considering becoming one myself.
What are your opinions on veganism and eating meat/other animal products?
is there any way to stop all these animals from being killed in crop farming?|||so, Steven Davis is prof of animal science. Do you think he might be a tad biased about this ?
It needs far more land to rear animals than crops. I should know, i own a farm.
Living a vegetarian or vegan diet certainly kills less animals than eating meat.
The animals that die in arable farming are by accident, this is a totally different moral position to rearing animals specifically just to eat them.
Go ahead, have confidence in your belief and go vegan
edit: I love the answers that say "we were meant to eat meat"...ha, ha, how selective is that ?? We were meant to run for 20 miles after our prey and spear it with blades fashioned from flint as well.....didn't see you quote that as you go around the supermarket buying all that battery meat.
The male human body was "meant" to impregnate as many girls as soon as they go through pubity to ensure the genes carry on...Does that sound right to you in the 21Century ?
how bizarre the "we were meant to do this and that" arguement is. Stop hiding behind it. If you have no moral stance on rearing, abusing, torturing and killing animals, just say so, don't try to blame it on some mis-guided pre-evolution view of what we are "meant to be"
So if we were "meant to eat meat" based on some pre-evolution. Are you now saying that vegetarians and vegans are the only people to have evolved ?...Maybe, thanks for pointing that out|||I'm not sure how they came to that conclusion about 1.8 billion animals being killed for crops in the US. The amount of land currently used for raising animals in the US is astronomical already, so if there were no animals, we could just use that land! :-)
If you're serious about going vegan, I wouldn't let daft statistics like that put you off. After all, that would only apply if the whole of the US went vegan, and lets face it...it's never ever going to happen!
Read some vegan books to help you make your decision (vegan freak is good). That might help you get everything straight in your head and enable you to make a decision that you'll stick to.|||The whole food producing structure needs to be turned on its head.
The industrial revolution removed man from the production of his own food. At a time when the focus was on ndustry, we as a populous went head first into something we didn't fully understand - mass production of food.
We believed the system was working, and it was, until the population became so grand and concentrated in the cities that agriculture needed some quick answers to the food problems. GMO's and hormones, and steroids provided the quick answers to the problems we faced. Now, we are reeling becuase of the unresearched use of procedures to produce food.
We can still move forward (or backward), to an organic based agricultural system. Organically grown products would help cut back on the slaughter of small animals who chose to live in crop fields. But we also need to reconsider the methods of farming. Perhaps it is time to overhaul the tractors and tools we use in farming.
We can't just give up, we shouldn't just accept that which is being shoved down our throats. Question every act you make, and after you find answers, be happy to make that move.|||First and foremost, we were meant to eat meat. That is why we have pointy teeth, as well as flat ones. With that said, after watching "Fast Food Nation", my family has changed our habits considerably. We only buy meat and dairy products that either come from family farms, or are handled in a kosher manner.
The milk products, beef, and chicken that I buy do not contain anti-biotics or hormones. I buy only free range chicken eggs. Needless to say, we have cut back on our consumption, which is better for us, because this type of "green" living can be expensive. But, the animals that provide us with our meals are treated in a more humane manner.|||The fact that you choose not to eat meat, should not be based solely on saving animals. As you can see they will be killled no matter what. If the world decides t become vegan, then there would be no need for animals, we would graze on our own grass! Do what feels right to you! Remember it's your body, it's your mind, and only you can make that decision.|||another point is if everybody in the world was vegan there would be enough food for a long time with the world eating meat people are starving
and lots of the meat eaten in the us isnt from the us
and most animals in medcs arent in fields they are in factory farms
an ss4 is wrong animals that eat emat like a cat have ALL very sharp canines we dont we have molar to eat veg and we have a appendix like hebivores do|||There's always vegetarianism... don't forget that!|||vegan ALL the way animals are my life and i refuse to eat them!|||Seeing as this Steven Davis is a Professor of Animal science and therefore has a vested interest in livestock farming I'd say he was more than a little biased!|||If you have the time to educate yourself about the foods absolutely necessary for you to maintain good health as a Vegan go ahead
If the entire planet became vegans - we would have to cull the overpopulation of animals as they would damage and eat the crops when left to bread. Also there would have to be an animal clean up service to clear away the dead or diseased animals that would have multiplied on the planet.
With global warming there soon will not be enough water to grow the crops.
Vegetables hurt too! Research David Attenborough's secret life of plants (not only they talk to each other, they do try to protect themselves against destruction by producing poisons) A plant will scream if you cut off a stem, it will also purr if you play pleasing music.
But hey we all have to eat - even the birds eat the insects and the slugs and snails just love the juicy green veg.|||26 billion animals die each year for meat,dairy and eggs.Does that answer your question?
edit:Don't forget the animals killed in crop production for all of the grain-fed animals.And all of the animals killed for leather,suede,etc(40 million annually). And all of the animals killed in animal testing(20 million annually).|||veganism is about causing as little harm to animals as possible. its impossible to be 100% vegan, even tarmac and tyres contain animal products. im not going to start hovering everywhere!
i hate when people use that arguement against vegans... because its still a hell of a lot less animals than killed by an omnivorous diet and seems to imply that non-vegans dont eat grains or soy which unless youre a lion or something you do!|||My advice is this: do whatever you want, that's your right.........but after you make your choice DO NOT TRY TO CONVERT THE REST OF US TO YOUR LIFESTYLE!
You wanna be a vegan? Great! Fantastic! Go for it! Just dont EVER tell me to stop eating meat.
Im a meat eater and I would NEVER tell you not to be a vegetarian or vegan.....
Make the choice for yourself and only yourself.|||One person that chooses not to eat meat isn't going to effect the lives of animals. We have so many meat eaters in the US its really pointless. I mean the reason why you should become a vegan is for the health benefits. Not saving animals. Butchering animals or eating carrots. Either way animals are going to be killed. Choose it for health.|||Veganism should be adopted only for health reasons. We have canines and incisors for a reason.
What would be the best multi vitamin for me to take?
and how much iron and b12 should i be taking daily?
how much protien?|||I don't take vitamins, but I do eat 2 servings of fortified breakfast cereal everyday. With each serving I add one 8 oz. serving of soy milk. (That's just part of my day's food BTW) It's a great way to start your day especially with some fruit. It also makes a good filling bedtime snack.
That takes care of my calcium, vitamin D, iron, B6, B12, folic acid, and a bunch of other things I can't remember. You can check though next time you are in the cereal isle. You have ot be careful though because some cereal contains milk.
I don't take any supplements at all and I am perfectly healthy. Generally vegans don't need to take supplements. A good, varied diet will allow you to be healthy without taking pills.
Good luck and take care.|||To figure out how much protein you need, multiply your weight in pounds by 0.36. The result is a good estimate of mow many grams you need, but it has a margin of error built in (so you can get by with less.) Unless you're pregnant, lactating or bodybuilding you don't need any more than that.
I take Deva brand multi. It's got some iron and some B12 and I don't take more of either. It's not a great idea to take supplemental iron unless you have symptoms of iron deficiency or your doctor has diagnosed you as iron deficient; too much can be highly toxic.
Your main focus should be on getting your nutrients from food. "Becoming Vegan" by Brenda Davis and Vesanto Melina is a great resource. I take a multi because my diet is good, but it sure isn't perfect every day.|||I have my own views on it - but really think it best to go to someone that can test and see what it is that you actually need - or if you need to take any sort of suppliments.
That means that you should make an appointment with a doctor and get tested.
Spending un-needed monies on vitamins that you very well don't even need is more expensive in the long run that just going to the doctor and getting tested.
Saturday, March 3, 2012
i been vegan for 3 months please tell this isnt true i want to have kids.|||yes due to the larger amount of soy you eat in replacement of other sources of protien.|||As long as you are ensuring that you get all the supplements you need. I was vegan for about a year and I wasn't careful about getting enough protein and iron and I became anemic. So just be careful.|||No not at all:all you need for healthy sperm is in a vegan diet too
No worries
Planets|||[edit] Nutritional concerns
Various fruits, vegetables, nuts, and grains; some basic ingredients of a vegan diet.
[edit] Specific nutrients
The American Dietetic Association has said that "appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."[10] However, poorly planned vegan diets can be deficient in nutrients such as vitamin B12,[69] vitamin D,[70] calcium,[71][70] iodine[72] and omega-3 fatty acids.[73] These deficiencies have potentially serious consequences, including anemia,[74] rickets[75] and cretinism[76] in children, and osteomalacia[75] and hypothyroidism[76] in adults.
[edit] Vitamin B12
Deficiencies in Vitamin B12, a bacterial product that cannot be reliably found in plant foods,[77][78][74] can have serious health consequences, including anemia and neurodegenerative disease.[79] Although clinical B12 deficiency is rare in vegans,[74] if a person has not eaten more than the daily needed amount of B12 over a long period before becoming a vegan then they may not have built up any significant store of the vitamin.[80] In a 2002 laboratory study, more of the strict vegan participants' B12 and iron levels were compromised than those of lacto- or lacto-ovo-vegetarian participants.[81]
The Vegan Society and Vegan Outreach, and others, recommend that vegans either consistently eat foods fortified with B12 or take a B12 supplement.[82][83][84] Tempeh, seaweed, spirulina, organic produce, soil on unwashed vegetables, and intestinal bacteria have not been shown to be reliable sources of B12 for the dietary needs of vegans.[85][86][74]
[edit] Calcium and vitamin D
It is recommended that vegans eat three servings per day of a high calcium food, such as fortified soy milk, and take a calcium supplement as necessary.[70][10] The EPIC-Oxford study showed that vegans have an increased risk of bone fractures over both meat eaters and vegetarians, likely due to lower dietary calcium intake, but that vegans consuming more than the UK's estimated average requirements for calcium of 525 mg/day had risk of bone fractures similar to other groups.[71][87]
The authors of The China Study argue that osteoporosis is linked to the consumption of animal protein because animal protein, unlike plant protein, increases the acidity of blood and tissues which is then neutralized by calcium pulled from the bones.[88] The authors add tha|||I really doubt it. Vegans have better sex lives too, eating meat can lead to erectile dysfunction.
Read Christine's response
(the last one)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=At64fPxP6Pbuk3ffRAIspJp26xR.;_ylv=3?qid=20081001131840AAGVOPm|||Maybe not.
Christine isn't a vegetarian or a vegan. "She" is a troll.
But considering the questioner was suggesting resorting to cannibalism and eating vegetarians....|||no
|||No because you are saying that vegetarians live forever. While we do typical live longer but not forever. Tell them about the health problems of being an omnivore and some of the famous people who are vegetarians or vegans|||No, and neither is preaching.|||My friend is vegetarian, and she would never win people over if she made a huge deal about it. Instead, she orders whatever she wants, and lets everyone try it- we've all started eating vegetarian food here and there as a result. It's not total conversion, but it's about the best you can hope for.|||You have been taken in by one of the vegetarian section trolls. Every now and then, a person(usually a meat eater) comes along and creates an account in order to make vegetarians and vegans look bad. Christine is not a vegetarian, but rather a troll that is trying to make all vegetarians and vegans look bad. She is not the first(I can personally remember at least 4), and she will certainly not be the last.|||No, because EVERYONE is going to die at some point. And so are animals, for that matter... might as well not have the animal's life be in vein and have some tasty food while we're at it :).|||No.
People all have different beliefs.
If someone thinks eating meat is important, no one should tell them they're wrong.
If someone thinks eating meat is wrong, no one should tell them they're wrong, either.
Although, it is pretty stupid to say that you will die if you don't eat meat, because the world is full of healthy, thriving vegs.|||No. Generally, you can't win someone over to vegetarianism or veganism unless they're interested and approach you with questions. Berating someone's life choices is not a good way to get them to accept yours. |||nope, or else people wouldn't smoke cigs, drink alcohol, or eat fast food either.|||Christine just makes her kind look stupid... I really wonder if her goal is to make vegans look bad. If it is it's working|||Christine is an annoying probably fake person anyway. So just ignore her. I didn't read her comment but I have read most of them and can imagine what she says. I don't know if she is really vegan and answering neurotically or not vegan and purposely going out of her way to sound like an idiot so that people generalize that vegans/vegetarians are like her.
However, meat is more harmful than a vegetarian/vegan diet and poses more health risks. Such as heart disease and strokes.
So when people ask questions about vegetarianism/vegan-ism and why we choose to be one we bring them up because it is a fact after all. Whether someone chooses to be a vegetarian/vegan or not it's still a fact and they asked the question to get us to say that. So we're not trying to win people over we are just defending ourselves by stating that we eat healthy for whatever reason (animals, health, environment) and it is our choice and those are our reasons.|||here's the thing
i'm a raw vegan(well, trying to be one full time, but finding it hard yet rewarding when i do do it) and i love animals which is why i started. but i've stuck with it because it's healthier and i feel better. but i don't think preaching is a good way to get people to convert. if you're having dinner and people start asking questions, then by all means answer them as best as you can, but don't tell people stuff they aren't interested in hearing. it'll just piss them off and possibly lose you a friend.
ex.
me and my friend had dinner the other week. i took her to this vegan restaurant cause she told me to pick the place since the last time she picked. so we were eating and she was enjoying the food and then she asked me why i was a vegan besides the delicious food. i told her all the reasons. i told her that i wanted to live a really long time and that i wanted to feel better and all these amazing things.
had she not asked me, i wouldn't have told her anything. if they don't care, it's not my job to tell them stuff.
Have just read that the British Government wants people to eat less meat and dairy to help the environment. Has any other Government got round to this? They usually copy the U.S. Government.|||-Half of the water used in the U.S. is used for animal agriculture.
-Every year in the US an area the size of Connecticut is lost to topsoil erosion--85% of this erosion is associated with livestock production.
-Livestock already consume half the world's grain, and their numbers are still growing almost exponentially.
-Every kilogram of beef we consume, according to research by the agronomists David Pimental and Robert Goodland, requires around 100,000 litres of water.
-Approximately 1.3 billion cattle populate the earth at any one time. They exist artificially in these vast numbers to satisfy the excessive human demand for the meat and by-products they provide. Their combined weight exceeds that of the entire human population. By sheer numbers, their consequent appetite for the world's resources, have made them a primary cause for the destruction of the environment.
-In the US, feedlot cattle yield one pound of meat for every 16 pounds of feed. It takes an average of 2,500 gallons of water to produce a single pound of meat. According to Newsweek, "The water that goes into a 1,000 pound steer could float a destroyer." In contrast, it takes only 25 gallons of water to produce one pound of wheat. Feeding the average meat-eating American requires 3-1/4 acres of land per year.
-Feeding a person who eats no food derived from animals requires only 1/6 acre per year.. - Studies by North Carolina State University estimate that half of the some 2,500 open hog manure cesspools (euphemistically termed "lagoons"), now needed as part of hog productions there, are leaking contaminants such as nitrate--a chemical linked to blue-baby syndrome--into the ground water.
-Worldwide demand for fish, along with advances in fishing methods--sonar, driftnets, floating refrigerated fish packing factories--is bringing ocean species, one after another, to the brink of extinction. In the Nov., '95 edition of Scientific American, Carl Safina writes, "For the past two decades, the fishing industry has had increasingly to face the result of extracting [fish] faster than fish populations [can] reproduce." Research reveals that the intended cure--aquaculture (fish farming)--actually hastens the trend toward fish extinction, while disrupting delicate coastal ecosystems at the same time.
-A scientist, reporting in the industry publication Confinement, calculated in 1976 that the planet's entire petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years if the whole world were to take on the diet and technological methods of farming used in the US.
-If tomorrow people in the US made a radical change away from their meat-centered diets, an area of land the size of all of Texas and most of Oklahoma could be returned to forest.
-It is estimated that livestock production accounts for twice the amount of pollution in the US as that produced by industrial sources.
-Livestock in the US produce 130 times the excrement of the entire US population. Since farm animals today spend much or all of their lives in factory sheds or feedlots, their waste no longer serves to fertilize pastures a little at a time. One poultry researcher, according to United Poultry Concerns literature, explains: "A one-million-hen complex will produce 125 tons of wet manure a day." To responsibly store, disperse, or degrade this amount of animal waste is simply not possible. Much of the waste inevitably is flushed into rivers and streams.
-Methane is one of the four greenhouse gasses that contributes to the environmental trend known as global warming. The 1.3 billion cattle in the world produce one fifth of all the methane emitted into the atmosphere.
-.Agricultural engineers have compared the energy costs of producing poultry, pork and other meats with the energy costs of producing a number of plant foods. It was found that even the least efficient plant food was nearly 10 times as efficient in returning food energy as the most energy efficient animal food.
-Since so much fossil fuel is needed to produce it, beef could be considered a petroleum product. With factory housing, irrigation, trucking, and refrigeration, as well as petrochemical fertilizer production requiring vast amounts of energy, approximately one gallon of gasoline goes into every pound of grain-fed beef.
-The direct and hidden costs of soil erosion and runoff in the US, mostly attributable to cattle and feed crop production, is estimated at $44 billion a year.
- Each pound of feedlot beef can be equated with 35 pounds of eroded topsoil.
-A nationwide switch to a pure vegetarian diet would allow us to cut our oil imports by 60%.
-Compared to a vegan diet, three days of a typical American diet requires as much water as you use for showering all year (assuming you shower every day).An acre of land can produce 20,000 pounds of potatoes, but only 165 pounds of beef.
-In the U.S., 260 million acres of forest have been destroyed for use as agricultural land to support our meat diet (over 1 acre per person).
-Since 1967, the rate of deforestation has been one acre every five seconds.
-Trees are being cut down at an alarming rate in the US, as well as around the world, for meat production. For every one acre cleared for urban development, seven acres are cleared to graze animals or grow feed for them.|||Shut up and hand me that steak!!!
But seriously have been reading about that. To do with methane and cows etc etc....ozone layer....perhaps there's something in it after all....not a bad idea!|||Yeah, veganism does help the animals, environment, and your health. Not a bad deal, huh?
I'm not sure if the US has gone around to the "veganism theory" yet, but they are preaching the same old same old (the kind that nobody ever follows anyways) - Use less electricity, ride your bike to places instead of using your car, etc. etc.
If those actually worked, they wouldn't be preaching them anymore.
have you ever met a vegan that didnt mention they were a vegan? they always let you know how long theyve been a vegan, they cant have a conversation without sharing vegan recipies, and they cant go through the day without criticizing someone elses diet. its so annoying|||It's a false sense of pride. People limit themselves, in hopes of becoming a better person. It's like catholics and lent. But one day, when the vegan comes home from the dr. with a poor bone density rating all will be put in their place.|||I cannot believe this is the best answer! I'd like to know your source for this poor bone density you are claiming. And food poisoning?? .......wow.....ok Report Abuse
|||Hmmmm.. Why do non vegans that know vegans always complain about them?? Its like batman VS. the riddler. They are arch nemisis'
PS.. Can you be vegan if you eat vegis that were fertilized with cow or horse crap?|||Haha, melissa's answer cracked me up.
Secondly, although I am ashamed to admit it, my mom is one of those vegans, bless her. At the movie theatre today she made a big deal out of being vegan with her popcorn selection. At Subway today she loudly announced her veganism. It's like, dang mom, I love ya, but NO ONE CARES! I can see if she was asking a question about something and someone ASKED why she was asking, but they usually don't! Drives me up a wall.
But hey. I don't know why she does it. She doesn't try to get anyone else to be vegan. My guess is she wants people to question their own eating habits. But she also tends to be the kind of person who just likes to talk ... a lot. I just stand there shaking my head.
I'm vegan too though, just to clarify.|||Maybe the people you're referring to are really proud of themselves because it can be hard to change your diet and give up a lot of things you're used to eating and clearly not everyone has the willpower to stop eating a crappy diet and stop living in denial about how terrible animal products are for you.|||Hmmm... I'm one of those vegans, and I don't bring it up. I will answer if someone asks why I pass on the meat at a potluck or something, but I don't make a point of it. I didn't do it to please anyone else, or gain a spotlight. People who do -- are you expecting everyone to just shout "You're right!" and throw their bologna on the floor???
I think it depends on "why" someone is vegan in the first place. I did it for my health -- not because of animal rights or anything like that. Being vegetarian has economical and ethical advantages, which are just bonuses in my book.|||I am vegan and I try to promote veganism as much as possible. It is a better choice for our environment. It reduces global warming.Vegans consume 20 times less energy for their food than carnivors. Secondly it is a healthier choice. Animal based diet has no fiber and it does nothing than plug up your artheries and cause several diseases. Most importantly is is a kinder choice to our animal friends that we share our planet. Billions of animals suffer to become our food every year. I am not trying to impose my opinion onto others. I am just providing the facts. People are being bombarded with meat and dairy ads 24 hours a day. In fact Vegans are de-programming you from all the evil of these companies. It is an obligation of a person to report or stop cruelty. Plant based food is much kinder choice in all aspects of life.
Feel free to reach me.
firstsimba@aol.com|||No one knew I was vegan till I found out I had a vegan coworker, then I shared it and it got out thru word of mouth. What's wrong with sharing though?
I'm going to make your statement generic now to show you how ridiculous it is:
"Have you ever met someone who enjoyed something that didn't mention they enjoyed something? They always let you know how long they've enjoyed it, they can't have a conversation without sharing things about it that they enjoy, and they can't go through the day without criticizing something someone else enjoys. It's so annoying."
So that pretty much summed up most our society. Why you bring this to us, you think we give a **** what some guy said to you? Someone who we don't know?
By your standards I should go to the butcher shop tomorrow and rant about crazy meat eaters who always come to the vegetarian and vegan section whining to me about random people we have nothing to do with. Cause guess what? It happens weekly and you're nothing special. So get over it :)|||I believe that the people you are referring to are a select few. They probably feel insecure about themselves because, let's be honest, being vegan is not exactly the "popular" thing to do. Many people don't understand veganism and put vegans down for their lifestyle. Being a vegan, I know I go through this a lot. It's easy to feel insecure when you are not part of the norm. Some vegans will try to go out of their way to prove to others that veganism is great & wonderful, and sometimes go a little overboard and preachy. I choose to keep it to myself, personally. I am a vegan simply to make myself happy - that's it. I know I'm doing the right thing for my body and for the earth. I'm not going to try to convince others that I'm right & they're wrong! That's not going to accomplish much. I think my weight loss, much improved health, and plentiful energy will speak for itself.|||Because its something to be proud of, a lot a vegans choose to be vegan for ethical reasons as well as health reasons I expect you brag about things you are proud of too. Also depending on the social situation they are in it's important to let people know as a lot of places don't always cater for vegans.|||I reckon it's a common side effect of becoming a vegan, the self righteous holier than thou preachy superiority complex.
If people choose to become vegan that's great well done those who choose this life path,, just don't force it onto others...... of course there are many wise vegans who also choose to keep it to themselves these are the type of people who truly deserve respect.|||people i know who are vegan dont brag about it. they tell you there vegan because theres some food simply cant have like milk,eggs ect|||One of the reasons I come on to YA is so I can discuss veganism without someone twisting their face and rolling their eyes, but I guess I can't even get away with it here.
I bet there are people who stalk the vegans on here who haven't even met a vegan face to face, but they still think they know everything about us.
Stop generalising people's personalities just because they happen to make the same choice about what they eat.
Also, being a vegan is a massive part of someones life. Everywhere you go you're faced with choices from your food, drink and clothes down to what cleaning product you buy, so it's little wonder that it's on people's minds alot, especially since almost all public places involve one of the above.
It's also only something you can do if you're very passionate about it, so it can be quite vexing to see your best friend stuffing KFC down their throats.|||I agree 100%, veg.gal. (:
Well, I guess you haven't met me. I'm vegan (I'm only saying this for purposes of answering this question though, haha), and I have friends who didn't know for months. I don't talk about it, but if someone else brings it up, I answer their questions and I will tell them the "horror stories" about factory farming if they ask.
Being vegan is for me. It's a personal thing. There's one other vegan in the entire school that I ever really get into discussions about it with. Otherwise it's just the typical conversation when they find out.
"You don't eat meat?"
"No."
"Not even fish?"
"Nope."
"Do you eat cake?"
"Vegan cake."
etc...|||When you go vegan you give up alot of things you might like.. You have to consider everything that goes into your body even down to Vitamins... I imagine and Correct me if I wrong I like constructive criticism Its like an achievement like losing 50 pounds because you gave up Sweets. Or I haven't had a Cigarette in over a year.. People naturally want to be proud of their achievements..|||You are stereotyping. I'm not saying this to be mean, but unless you've met every vegan in the world you shouldn't
make such a broad sweeping generalization. Imagine
how you would feel if I started off a question with," Why do
meat eaters......
yes. for a 10000 reasons.|||No. All the vegetables will be gone in the world, there will be an overabundance of cows suddenly, and everything will reek of tofu.|||Maybe. It would certainly reduce global warming. The cows and chickens would not take over because they would not be bred to excess as they are now.
But I cannot say it would ease world hunger because that is an issue of distribution, not supply.|||No.
I find it arrogant to assume we can save the planet when we can't even clear out traffic after a Bears game.|||It is a wonderful hope. But do I think it will NO.
Slaint茅(to your health)|||A lot of things can "help" save the planet (assuming it needs saving, another debate) but will veganism (or anything else) solely be responsible for it? No.|||Do I believe veg*n can save the planet? Certainly!
The breeding and slaughter of animals, and the subsequent processing and packaging of the meat, requires an inordinate amount of land, water, energy and raw materials.
The creation of animal products as a whole uses 20% of the countries annual energy budget. That is equal to the energy needed to run all our cars!
Every calorie of animal protein eaten requires 78 calories of fuel to produce. Wheat and corn requires 3.5 calories.
Soybeans requires a whopping 40 times less than beef!
When we consume a product that requires many stages of processing (Fuel, oil, plastic wrap, aluminum foil, styrofoam, cardbord containers, paper labels, ink, preservatives, artificial flavours, color additives etc), energy expenditure must FAR exceed that for simple products that can be used in their natural state!
There are thousands of reasons to go veg*n, this is just one, and a major one at that!|||Sure can. Or at least not destroy it as the farming industry is doing right not. Seeing as the farming industry is the most polluting one in the world, before cars, the more vegans there are, the less pollution there will be.
Breding animals for their flesh uses up masses or water, crops,... 10 more so than just eating the crops directly.
Go vegan!|||Respecting all life will help save the planet.
Respecting people of all colors will help save the planet.
Respecting people of all faiths will help save the planet..........
Accepting the fact that every conscious being, human or non-human, can suffer and has the same basic desires that we have will save the planet.|||I am a vegetarian for environmental reasons. Simply put cows produce lots of methane and contribute to global warning and feading an animal to then eat the animal is not as efficient as eating the food yourself. sustainability is a real issue and it is only going to become more pronounced, people who live in isolation know that if they eat meat every day they will soon run out of livestock. The global model is not as simple as that but the effective model is that it takes over 10 acres of land ranching to produce the same amount of food as 1 acre of land farming. viable farmland is a limited quantity.
to "you could learn a lot form me" - that is why other countries have problems with deforestation in attempts to create more farm land.. Resources may not be at there limit right now everywhere, but that doesnt change the fact that we could use less of them. you can go around saying that global warming is from cars when you are refusing to give up meat and you can go around saying that global warming is from cattle when you are too lazy to walk to the store, and you can go around saying that these things are to complicated and that any actions that i can do are just a drop in a very big bucket, or you can take a stand, conserve what you can, spread the word when you can, and vote for candidates who will police industry and at the end of the day be able to say that you did what you could to drip your drop into that bucket.|||It can help a great deal. Other efforts should be made to reduce, reuse and recycle...
I like to take my trash to the dump and see everything that is being tossed out. Piles and piles of stuff that was purchased and there it all is. It keeps my money spending and product consumption in perspective.|||vegs save 100 animals a year :D|||While I enjoy the thought this question provokes I must say that is unanswerable. Sure we can debate it but there is no way to state facts here. If the research that most veg*ns and myself have done is correct than yes it could. However, that would be assuming that everyone got on board and that will never happen. If everyone stopped driving cars than that would help even more but that will never happen. It is a matter of numbers. Exponents and variables. Where it ends is any ones guess. With the amount of misinformation that we are subjected to there is no way to really know anything for certain. That is why this question is unanswerable. It doesn't need an answer. It doesn't have an answer. Some people may see this as a surrender or just unwillingness to fight but that is not the case. It can be seen in every person from day to day. We have all seen the bumper sticker that reads "stop bitching and start a revolution." Well the people they are referring to aren't going to start a revolution cause they are to busy existing. They have jobs and pets and children to worry about. Most of us can't drop everything and march on Washington. That is why the system will always win until the system fails. If anarchy breaks out then who will keep the peace? It won't be the police cause they will be home protecting their families. When the grocery stores stop getting deliveries then what? Our close relatives experienced this in the great depression. The point I am trying to make is that simply questioning something will not change it. We need to realize that our destiny is collective and everyone plays a part. There is no escaping that. Do not write off people for their beliefs, rather incorperate them into your own because they will play a role in our future.
In summation, I am not sure that anything can save the planet, or destroy it for that matter. The rock will always be here regardless of what WE do. So maybe the question should be "can veganism save the human race?" The earth can survie the cancer that is humans. We cannot.|||einstein said it could...and i dont know about you but im going with him.|||I very much doubt it.
If you are refering to methane emissions from livestock and the effect on global warming, methane contributes less than carbon dioxide, which is what we all exhale.
By cutting down on the population, we can save the planet, and the middle east have been working on that for a few thousand years without much luck.
What damage has been done in the past is what we are seeing. We won't be around to see the damage we have done, and eating only vegetables and fruit won't do anyone any favours.|||No|||simply NO...
38 million tons of meat are required yearly and the orders are required worldwide...
V&V is a very small following of cult and religious devotees|||NEW ID ALERT!
From what? I don't think what we eat has any more than a marginal effect.|||No....your question is silly and naive - grow up.
I think veganism is a choice of living without the use of animals. I laugh when I hear people say it is a cult! LOL.My whole family is vegan and we are the only ones in our town. I guess we could be our own cult. We chose first to be vegetarians, and then we cut out dairy and all of our sinus/cold problems went away (no more inflammation/mucus producing antigens from dairy). Next was eggs and that was because I didn't want to spend alot of money on something as $5 for a dozen organic eggs. So we just stopped using the eggs, and suddenly we were vegan! We can survive without the use of animals. Makes me feel more independent in a way.
I also would like to educate people about vegans and protein. There is enough protein in vegetables (beans, rice, peanuts, wheat, and other supergrains and superfoods that the average person has not heard of before - amaranth, quinoa, hempseed). But even vegans can eat horribly! I've seen vegans that eat french fries, pop, pizza with no cheese, and just eat toast. Where are the vegetables??? You can eat grains like rice and beans but you still need vegetables, especially the green leafy kind. As a vegan I guess you need to be aware of what you are eating and be smart about it.|||dont really know what that is|||I think it is the person's choice, I think if they have chilren they need to make sure their children either eat meat or get enough protein from other sources. Most vegans don't think about that part. As long as they are healthy and their children don't suffer nutritonally, then hey they can do what they want.|||Most people don't understand nutrition at all. Going vegan is not dangerous as long as you replace the meat with nutritious alternatives. Just eating pb&j sandwiches is not going to do it.
There is a lot of protein in vegetables - how else would you classify them?
Do research on it. Most Americans are especially ignorant about the food they eat.|||I think it's crazy! we are all carnivores by nature. I couldn't imagine not eating a thick, juicy rare steak. I love meat.|||If God meant for us to be vegan, we'd have hooves and three stomachs. If we were meant to be carivores we would have long sharp claws and teeth. That's why we are omnivores.|||I think it's great, as long as you eat right so you get lots of protein and vitamins and minerals. I'm a vegan, and I love it! :]|||Veggies may have protein in them, but a tiny amount when compared to meat. There's 3 g in broccoli, and 26 in chicken. That's a huge difference and you'd have to eat a ton of broccoli to get enough protein. Anyway, that's not what we're here to talk about. If people want to be vegans, all the power to them.
I think that veganism is great in theory, but not really in practice. We were made to be omnivors, so we should have a varied diet including meat, plenty of fruits and veggies and everything.|||I think it is up to the person whether or not he or she wants to become a vegan. However, they would have to work extra hard to get all their vitamins and such.|||I think it is a person's choice, and I wouldn't disrespect a vegan.
But I think it adds a lot of difficulties to a person's life. It is hard to eat as a vegan in public or at work or at friend's houses or at holiday events or whatever. I think it would be boring to limit that much food from your life too. I think you'd have difficulty fulling experiencing other cultures. And I don't think the health/environmental benefits are worth it, although they are probably worth it to be vegetarian. I understand why people are vegetarians, and nowadays that is pretty easy to do. But being vegan- no I don't get it.|||I think it's noble, but very challenging to be vegan in a healthy way.
A surprisingly good source of pretty easy vegan recipe ideas is the book Super Baby Food.|||I think its extreme and it must certainly take time and committment to follow. Its a personal choice and if that is someones choice then thats fine by me. I will stick to my omniverous roots :D|||It's a cult. Not to worry though, they will all soon starve to death.|||Lol :) I haven't starved to death yet! I'm at my ideal weight and I have been for years, nothing changed at all when I went vegan! ^^
I think it's one of the best choices I ever made. I'm only sorry I didn't do it sooner. I was a vegetarian over 6 years before I went vegan, and during all that time I should have been vegan!
It's wonderful, I feel complete freedom. I can look at a cow and finally feel absolutly no guilt whatsoever. There is nothing about my lifestyle that will ever harm that cow. I don't wear leather, don't consumer meat or anything that has any sort of dairy or dairy derivatives. It's wonderful :) And I feel great!|||I have utmost respect for vegans. I'm a vegetarian and I don't eat dairy either but I do eat eggs, only for the fact I have a candida problem and can't tolerate any processed food, so going completely vegan when have a candida problem seems impossible for me at the moment. Veganism is a wondeful lifestyle to have, albeit it can be tough sometimes as some people can be cruel, but it's for the right reasons. I wish some people were more open mind to different viewpoints and beliefs on here.|||As long as you go about it the right way, there isn't a problem. But if you become sick and weak from not getting the nutrients you need to survive, it probably isn't the way you should go. If you believe that strongly in something but can't really participate, do some research before you shop. Only buy organic foods (cheese, milk, etc.) and stick with your cause.|||Isn't it interesting how the only people who have anything negative to say about a vegan diet are those who aren't vegan themselves. It is not all that difficult to be vegan, it's a very healthy choice, it isn't difficult to get proper nutrition, and it's a very ethical choice. But no, it's not for everybody due to various factors.
Personally I feel better than I ever have, I do not find it difficult, I love the new world of food that has opened up for me, and I love knowing I cause less suffering to animals than when I was l/o, and even omni many years before that.
"Omnivore" doesn't mean that we have to eat meat, just that we can. But even that is doubtful considering the vast amount of disease that consumption of meat causes.
What are common products made/processed with animal parts that the avergae person may not realize? For example, I've heard that animal fat is used in the manufacture of computer chips. Is that true? Anything else like that?|||There are probably lots of other obscure / widely unknown uses of animal products but these are the ones I currently know of:
- Wine, cider and beer are often cleared or fined with gelatin, isinglass, shellfish chitin, albumen or casein. Most spirits are okay.
- Washing powder often contains animal fat.
- Photographic film is made with gelatin.
- Toothpaste often has glycerine in it.
- Glues can use bones, hooves and skins.
- Lots of toiletries, perfumes and cosmetics contain or are made with animal products, including beeswax, lanolin, shellac, musk, tallow, gelatin (or "hydrolyzed collagen"), keratin, castoreum and chitin. Many are also tested on animals.
- Household paint often contains shellac.
- Bone char is used in the production of some sugars.
- Crude oil is refined with bones to make Vaseline.
- Fertilizers often contain bone and other animal products.
- Dissolvable surgical thread is produced using chitin (which may or may not be shell-sourced).
- Match heads and sandpaper use gelatin as a binder.
- Glossy papers are often produced using gelatin or casein.
- Plastics are often produced using casein.
- Steel is rolled / shaped using tallow as a lubricant.
- Vitamin D3 is often produced from lanolin.
I have not heard of the use of animal fat in computer chip manufacture in particular but I think it is very likely.|||Gelatin! That crap is in EVERYTHING! Most yogurts, marshmallows, some ice creams, and lots of candies. Who'd have thought boiled skin & bones would have so many uses. YUK!!!!|||Carmine is one of them. Most people don't know that it's crushed up bugs.
I got a bottle of grapefruit juice once for free, then looked at the ingredients and it listed carmine. Eww. I was definitely not going to drink something that I knew had crushed up bugs added to it.|||lecithin is a pretty common substance that many foods have to bind separate ingredients, and is made from eggs. however, soy lecithin is ok, that was just one i learned recently, but there are many extended lists available|||Sour mix you get in a margarita in just about any bar has egg whites in it...
here are a few other lists
http://www.vnv.org.au/AnimalProducts.htm
http://www.vnv.org.au/FoodAdditives.htm|||Science has invented the "neuro chip" to help people with diseases. But I do not know of computer chips made with animal fat.
There are SO many things that people don't realized.
Such as a lot of grocerystore type black teas are colored with pig's blood. Lipton says they don't use blood in their "natural coloring" but refuses to state what their "natural flavoring" consists of.
Tetley is fine.
Cetyl alcohol is in many personal care products. Cetyl alcohol is derived from whales and dolphins. People who refuse to buy tuna because tuna fishing kills dolphins, or go to Marine World because it exploits whales don't read the bottle of skin cream and make the same connection.
Women don't realize the pill is refined horse urine. The ever popular "melatonin" tablet comes from the cow pituitary.
I could really be here all day.|||Gelatin is a common ingredient in many types of foods. Also bottled salad dressings (even ones just labeled plain "Italian") and sauces sometimes contain anchovies. Worcestershire sauce and Caesar salad dressing are two examples of dressings with anchovies. Canned soups are often made with beef or chicken stock.|||I always thought this was interesting, regular Oreos contain gelatin but Doubl Stuf Oreos do not.
I've been a Vegan for a while and a Vegetarian for even longer. It's the one thing in my life that I know will never change and I want a tattoo supporting the lifestyle and reminding me every day why I do what I do. Does anybody have any ideas? I don't want just the word "Vegan" or anything that's Peta-inspired. I just want something that supports veganism/vegetarianism and makes a good tattoo. Any ideas appreciated!|||I'm not saying take these exactly, but I've always liked this first one: http://modblog.bmezine.com/2007/04/27/ve鈥?/a>
If that's a little much for you, you could always get something like this: http://modblog.bmezine.com/2006/06/06/hu鈥?/a>
Of course, the best thing you can do is figure out exactly what it is you want on your body forever. Remeber: it's very easy to change your mind, it's not so easy to change a tattoo once it's on your body.
Good luck!|||how about asking a tattoo artist to create something with your favorite animal and the letter V, or some type of small quote or phrase that represents your beliefs and lifestyle. what i think would look really cool is having the letter V and an animal stepping through it, if that makes any sense, like behind the first slant but in front of the second one. ask a tattoo artist for ideas too, they are creative and do what they do for a reason.|||supports veganism/vegetarianism & makes a good tattoo.
select fruits, plants and veggies that would spell out your
favourite animal:P- papaya; A-apple; N-necterine; D-dates;
A-apricot=PANDA.
U could make it: bracelet, anklet or a stick form...here, U stay true to your belief and yet show UR support of animal rights in your own right...2bz|||good question :) I'm also a vegetarian and animal rights believer . I have a passion for animals , I was originally going to get a tattoo of a wolf's paw print, but i ended up using my own dog's paw print, it turned out really good . I only wanted something small, so it was perfect for me.|||since your into animal rights, maybe you could get a small tattoo of your favorite animal (unless your favorite animal is a rhinoceros, because they aren't very pretty animals...) or maybe something like, "we are all God's beautiful creations" (unless your an atheist)|||First of all make sure that the tattooo is something that you really want because it will be with you for ever. Next choose a design or a symbol or even a saying that means something to you and that you really like. Find a really good tattoo artist in your area and go in and spend some time talking to him or her and let them know what you want and I am sure between the two of you, you will come up with exactly what you want.. I just got my first tatto 7 months ago and I love it. That is the advice I got from a friend and I used it and the tattoo turned out beautiful and I have no regrets on getting it. Good luck.
I've been a vegetarian for four years, and I am currently trying to make the jump to Veganism, but I'm having a really hard time eliminating eggs and cheese, especially the eggs, because they seem to be in everything. I'd really like some advice|||Well, I am somewhat in the same boat. I am trying to seriously limit my dairy and egg consumption. I will tell you what steps I am currently taking to do so.
I go grocery shopping alone. When I am with my spouse, I feel rushed, and like I can't stand there and read every label. But when I'm alone, that's exactly what I do. It was hard the first two weeks, but it's getting easier, because I now know what certain basics are "safe". And only have to label check specialty or impulse foods.
When we go out to eat, I look up the restaurant menu online before hand, and look for meals. Again, this was harder at first, but is now easier, since I know have "favorite meals" (aka foods I know that are safe) at my regular haunts. If the place doesn't have a website, and when I'm reading the menu, I just can't tell what has animal in it, I just get a salad.
Finally, always have snacks! This is where I fail the most. I'm fine at home, because I stocked my shelves with plenty of choices. But if I forget to pack a lunch for work, and am hungry during the day - there is ALWAYS free food in the lunchroom. People are constantly bringing in baked goods, or conference leftovers, or chocolates that they don't want to eat themselves. I have several times slide, and picked at lunchroom food, when I don't have time to take a lunch break, and forgot my own food.
I'm willing to bet that the first 3 weeks will be the hardest - since that's how it was when I quit meat. Only due to the fact that I have to figure out what I am now going to eat instead of what I had been eating. I am sure that as time passes it will be easier and easier until it feels like it's always been the way we've lived. Once you get a whole list of food in your head that you can readily fall back on.
Good luck to us both. I'm sure we'll get there with continued effort.
also, how does veganism positively affect..
-the body
-your pocket
-animals/animal production
-the environment
the opposing negative perspectives towards the following above are welcomed also
thxx so much :)|||Im answering in the same order you posted the questions.
-Im assuming you dont want the anti-meat argument, since you asked for vegan and not vegetarian- Milk, not only inferior right off the bat to my favorite vegan "milk" (hemp milk), has been linked to numerous ailments. If you want the details, I recommend "Skinny *****", but in short, its linked to cancer, acne, blah blah blah. Not to mention, it doesnt really have any benefits. It has less calcium than hemp milk, and the high protein content of milk actually strips your bones of calcium (!!!This means that the more you get your calcium from dairy, the more damage youre actually doing!!!) I never liked eggs, so I never looked up any anti-egg arguments, sorry.
-You buy less processed foods, and use more fresh ingredients (this also relates to the health thing, but I decided to be a "Debby Downer" and list negatives of non-veganism, rather than positives, since its pretty self explanatory-no known bad stuff, unless you want to believe protein only comes from animals). Fresh foods cost less than nasty processed foods, so your wallet and body will be happy. I actually try to buy all organic, so the price difference sometimes comes out more expensive, but you dont have to buy organic (though you might want to look into some foods that should always be bought organic).
-Contrary to popular naive belief, cows do not "need to be milked to stay alive". They are artificially impregnated, then the baby cow is taken away to be veal, and the cow is milked until the process is restarted. In the wild, cows stop producing milk when the baby stops drinking; they do not get infected or any other dairy industy "we're all about the cows!" propagandra. Chickens are subjected to fake daylight/shading in order for them to produce unnatural amounts of eggs, and beaks are routinely chopped off so that when the stress gets too much, they dont attack workers.
-Being a vegan does more environmental impact than anything else; you could drive a hummer, live by yourself in a huge mansion with the lights turned on all the time, have a private jet, anything you want. Why? Because in order to produce one pound of meat, you need ten pounds of grain. So, if there was someone who ate only meat (and Im sure theres not very many, but for the sake of understanding), you use ten times less food.|||-veganism positively affects your body because you're not pumping genetically manufactured/chemically engineered crap into it. you'll have more energy, your moods will improve, the overall well being of your body will increase.
-if you stick to fruits and vegetables, veganism is relatively light on your pocket. but be it as it may, things like vegan cheese and more "dairy" like products and meat substitutes can get costly. which is, of course, to be assumed because anything that's even remotely good for you will cost you.
-well, you're not eating animals or any by-products so it has to be a good thing. as far as animal production goes, i don't believe that animals will ever stop being butchered for our own sick sake but any little bit helps.
-less trash out there if you're eating vegetables and fruits--the peels are biodegradable so if you have a garden, use it as compost! if you have a vegetable garden, you can provide for yourself, which is always a good thing. going to farmers markets and supporting local farmers encourages a stable economic "grassroot" environment. i've also found that meat makes me really gassy so less meat equals less methane emissions that supposedly deplete the ozone!|||The body:
No cholesterol in plants. A vegan diet is thought to be of particular benefit to those with a history of cancer and heart disease in the family.
Your pocket:
You don't need to buy meat, which is expensive. You will likely also consume less dairy substitutes compares to the amount of dairy non-vegans would.
Animals:
No animal slaughter, cruelty or exploitation.
Environment:
Animal farming contributes 1/5 of the world's carbon emissions. Over-fishing is damaging to marine environments and endangered species.
Is it a quasi-religious cult, an art-movement, a way of being different, or a mental illness?|||At one time, I naively thought that it was simply a dietary preference. After coming to yahoo answers, though, I have discovered that it is so much more, at least for most of it's practitioners.
Veganism appears to be a strange state of self-delusion where, with the help of PETA propaganda and Disney cartoons, animals are cute, innocent creatures, with near human-like emotional and mental capacity, and where vegans manage to fool themselves into thinking that they are somehow saving the lives of livestock (I believe the popular term is "sentient being"), and that, contrary to what anthropologists have proven, humans actually evolved to be herbivores.
It is also a state of denial and hypocrisy, where it is ok to destroy animal habitat, to pollute and run them over with your car, and then smugly claim that you don't hurt, kill, or "exploit" animals. When these double standards are mentioned, they modify their position to claiming that they only avoid animal usage to the extent that is "practical".
Veganism is also a state of self-righteousness, with vegans being morally and intellectually superior (and are the only humans that have earned the right to be called animal lovers), whereas the rest of us are ignorant, barbaric, animal-hating savages.
Veganism does have some similarities to a "quasi-religious cult". Members of the cult like to nag and harass (they call it "educate") non-members, in the hopes of getting them to join. Most of them take it a step too far, though, and resort to name calling and insulting non-vegetarians to the point that one begins to wonder if they really want to convert them, or just continue to criticize them to reinforce their own feelings of superiority.|||Vegan-ism is very similar to Vegetarianism in the sense that you either choose to be, or are brought up that way. It is similar to a religion in the sense that if you've been one since a very tyoun age then you are likely to stay that way for the rest of your life.
I personally am vegetarian becase I was brought up that way, and when my parents changed back to eating meat when I was 4 I refused (just how I was brought up).
It has nothing to do with mental illnesses.
Some people are allergic to toxins in meats (very rare), and some people want a healthier diet.
Some religions I am aware also ban the eating of some meats, so veganism could be an easier option than just avoiding one particular meat.
It almost definately has nothing to do with income, as (as far as I am aware), vegan substites are actually more expensive.
Hope this helped.|||None of the above. It's actually a way of seeking harmony. People who don't like the idea of treating animals badly don't contribute to the ill-treatment of animals. Everyone has a different idea of what that means. For most vegans, it roughly translates to "animals aren't property and should not be used/treated as such."
I'd imagine it is somewhat like the abolitionists in America. They thought that slavery was wrong because they thought that people weren't property and shouldn't be used/treated as such. I wouldn't describe them as a religion/cult, an art movement, "just trying to be different," or mentally ill. I have no idea what their social status was, but I'd imagine that folks from all walks of life were that way.
I don't think veganism can actually be considered a cult, for a number of reasons. Here's a "cult checklist" for you to look at. Cults are typically organized and have a leader. Vegans are not organized and do not have a leader. Cults usually try to isolate their members from non-members (even family members), but vegans usually don't refuse to associate with non-vegans, especially not family members. http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/chec鈥?/a>
As for religious, religion almost always includes a belief in the supernatural. Vegans vary widely on that front. Some believe in a deity (or multiple deities), others are unsure, and some are convinced there is absolutely no chance that there's a deity. The moral code in religions usually comes from the supernatural. You do something bad, you'll be punished (go to hell, be reincarnated again, whatever). As with vegans, there's no belief that anything horrible will happen to you if you're not vegan. You'll just be... not vegan. Religion also usually has a sense of sacred and profane that veganism lacks. Here, have a look at this link. http://atheism.about.com/od/religiondefi鈥?/a>
An art movement also doesn't fit in. Not all vegans are artists, nor do they all even agree on what vegans should do. There are, on one hand, the peaceful vegans. On the other are the ones who engage in criminal activity in the name of veganism. (ALF, anyone?) Some vegans are very private, others want to share veganism with others. Still others are the in-your-face types. I suppose you could argue that veganism is a movement of some kind, but it isn't really an artistic one. I think veganism might be considered a political movement, though.
As for a way of being different, there are certainly some vegans and vegetarians who do it just to be different (or to fit in), but I've found that most of them are young and don't stick to it. Most vegans (like most everyone else who spends a long time doing something) actually believe in it and try to live it. To suggest that the majority of vegans are just seeking attention or trying to be different makes about as much sense as suggesting that those who practice abstinence, or who don't drink/smoke/do drugs are just trying to be different.
As for a mental illness, I have no idea where you get that one. Here's a list of mental illnesses. Veganism is not one of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_illn鈥?/a>|||Aside from 2 points (gack) veganism is caused by the disparity between humane awareness of what is right and wrong, and the general public's apathy about the plight of any other living being on earth, other than themselves. Vegans respect and cherish all life. Most meat-eaters are quite vocal that they really only care about their own lives, and those of the people they know and/or love. Vegans generally don't use terms like "deserve to die".
But hey...2 points is 2 points.|||For the love of animals
They want to be healthy
Environmental reasons
Health issues (allergic reactions to dairy - etc.)
Religious beliefs
To answer your question - NO, NO, NO & NO - get your facts straight! Being a vegan is about being healthy - no different than you wanting to eat healthy & start working out. :)
Don't knock it til you try it!|||It can be related to many things, a texture dislike, a religious reasoning, a dislike to animal cruelty or diet preference. What ever the reason is their choice.|||Veganism is a persons choice, Some people are Vegan because of religion but most are by choice Veganism consists of eating no animal products, It's in no way a mental illness?|||what causes it? Everything you lack, compassion, decency, intelligence
FAILTROLL!!!!|||This is what causes it --->>>http://www.mercyforanimals.org/ohdairy/|||It's called "I actually care about animals and laugh at those who ask questions like this because it's obvious you have no respect for living things other than yourself."|||It's a way to see idiot questions here on this site...|||LOVE, COMPASSION, KINDNESS & PEACE
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peta.org|||Veganism is a harmless medical condition caused by a microscopic species of fungus that grows on the roof of your mouth and feeds on stray particles from undigested fruit and vegetables.|||just your basic attention seekers who feel the need to tell me my bloody steak isn't delicious, but, we both know that it really is.|||I believe it's an eating disorder, along the lines of anorexia nervosa or bulimia.
What is it like?????|||Hi, an answer from a vegan woman who went through two pregnancies and had two very healthy baby boys. I ate what I usually eat as a vegan. If you already eat well, you should have no problems while you are pregnant. I made sure to get plenty of leafy greens which are great for calcium. I drank my soymilk and ate vegan cheese. I really enjoyed a yummy tempheh and curry tofu breakfast dish I used to get at a local veggie restaurant. Drink plenty of water and take you pre-natal vitamins. Anyone telling you that you can't be vegan and pregnant don't know what they are talking about. I had very little morning sickness. I didn't have any problems with swelling or preclempsia or any health problems. I was in my mid-30s when I got pregnant, so I was considered high risk because of my age but I had no problems. My boys are healthy, energetic, smart and vegan. Good luck. The PCRM website has information of veganism and pregnancy.|||The exact same way it is not pregnant.
p.s. The American Dietetic Association and the Dietitians of Canada support a vegan diet for ALL stages of life.|||Unless you are extremely knowledgeable, it can be risky. The demands of a pregnant women's body during preganancy can be not only complex but individual. It is extremely risky. And as for the "American Dietetic Associat and the Canadian crew ... they can sod off. They make the assumption that everyone has competent knowledge of nutritional needs.
That assumption demonstrates that while they are competent in their field .. they know next to nothing about human nature.|||My wife was a vegan when given birth to 2 kids. They are 4 y/o and 8 y/o now. No problem or issue so far.
Basic and planned vegan diet could increase body efficacy to synthesize relevant and adequate nutrition and minerals. Our body indeed has greatest potentials.
Requirement for B12 supplements only for uncommon cases when someone has partial or total lost in natural body metabolism. Obviously for those eating “unnatural” diet the body may eventually lose the natural capacity to synthesis and uptake of proper level of nutrition/minerals. This is eventually will lead to other critical and modern illnesses which you can witness now.
And... EXCESS of B12 may cause body TOXICITY and danger. Beware!|||Not recommendable.|||I want the whole world to be vegan. But for nine months prego mothers need to take care of the unborn child. NO veganism. It's dangerous. Vegans who tell you otherwise are really wannabes and don't have all the knowledge of true vegans to allow them to be vegans during pregnancy.
I don't understand the logic. I've been vegetarian all my life but veganism just doesn't make sense to me.
How can consumption of dairy products or eggs that aren't even fertilized (and are hence not even alive) be perceived as cruelty to animals? I don't mean to offend anybody, and I apologize if my question enraged you, I just want your opinion on this and want to know why is it that vegans decide to live on such a restricted diet.|||Regarding dairy: first and foremost, we do not need dairy. No mammal, humans included, need to consume the milk of other animals, no does any mammal need to consume any mother's milk after the infant breast feeding stage. In fact, consuming milk, especially that of another animal, is not a healthy thing to do simply because we are not designed for such a thing. If that is not enough for you, remember that cows are mammals, and like all other mammals, humans included, they do not produce milk unless they are with baby. So, how do you get milk from a cow all year around? Either always keep her pregnant and with baby (and steal the milk from the baby for your own use) or inject hormones to fool the cow's body into believing that it is with baby. Also, where did all these cows come from? They have been bred in captive. That is, cows are either rapped or artificially inseminated. Baby girl cows are kept for their milk, the baby male bulls are thrown into the grinder and made into cat food (that's what they do at the local dairy farm near my home) or put in a cage and not fed any iron or mother's milk to keep their meat white and soft and then they are killed, chopped up and labelled "veal" (aka baby meat).
Eggs? Eggs are produced the exact same way milk is produced, only the product is different. Male chics are thrown into the grinder, females are injected or fed pellet food with hormones and also artificially inseminated to produce more chics. Chickens are like most all other animals, they give birth in the springtime, not all year around. Giving constant birth to eggs all year long puts a terrible amount of stress on the body and basically sucks their energy dry thus they live short lives before being sent off to become fried chicken. Doesn't matter if they are organic free range or not, the process is the same. Keeping them in a cage or allowing them to run around the back yard makes no difference in my eyes.
Anyway, there are so many videos out there that show the daily abuse these animals receive -- and why not? Who cares what happens to them anyway, because they are all going to be killed soon, so who cares how they are treated before their death? Right? Who cares if they have been in a cage their whole lives, who cares that their babies have been taken away and killed too. They are just stupid unfeeling animals -- they can't even talk, so they must be so very stupid, and they don't feel pain anyway, right?
Anyway, that's my take on it. And being vegan is not restricted in my view either. Sure, okay, meat, dairy, eggs, sea food... four things. I was never big on eggs, and never liked seafood.... so that narrows it down to two things that I removed from my diet -- animals and animal products. Two things. It's nothing.|||It doesn't have to make sense to you. You made your choice to be vegetarian, and that doesn't make sense to the general population, but you chose it anyway. Vegans have their reasons for making their choices, and omnivores have theirs. I am allergic to eggs, and therefor basically forced to go vegan, but it is neither a restricted or boring diet. There are many fabulous vegan foods. No offense to you either, but you are being as closed minded to veganism, as most people are to vegetarianism. Its just a choice, and not one that needs to concern you, if you are not embracing that particular type of diet. Some people are just put off by consuming animal products, the same as you are put off by consuming meat.|||Take it from me - a girl with little self control over what she eats ;), I do not feel restricted at all. I can eat everything you eat, just from different sources. I am currently trying out raw veganism, I take that you would think that is the extreme of all extremes, last night I enjoyed raw zucchini "Noodles" in raw homemade marinara sauce. It's really amazing.
People say to me "how can you have so much self discipline?" it's not about self-discipline, it's something I care about enough to make changes, ones which I did not have the slightest trouble making.
The reason it is cruel in the production of dairy products and eggs is because it is mass production, cows AREN'T supposed to be milked, the are artificailly raped to become pregnant and then their babies are stolen from them after birth they mourn for days and they are kept tied to a machine which "Milks" them. They are then slaughtered after they are "used up". Which is about 7 years, when cows should really live for up to 30 years. chickens are confined to small cages and have their beaks clipped watch some of the vids' on youtube, it's awful.|||Why are you vegetarian?
Is it because you are morally opposed to the use/ abuse of animals to provide food for human consumption?
Are you unhappy with the cruel treatment of the majority of animals bred for food?
Do you object to the fact that natural life cycles are tampered with to allow animals to bear huge ammounts of offspring for people to eat?
Is it because you are opposed to the huge resource use needed to use animals to turn vegetable matter into meat for humans to eat?
Is it because you don't like eating heavily processed food from giant faceless corporations?
Is it for health reasons?
If you consider taking any of these positions to a logical conclusion (or in your view 'extreme; conclusions), you'll probably find that the reasons for being vegan are just extensions of your reasons for being vegetarian.
Or maybe you don't have reasons and are just vegetarian because that's how you were brought up?|||Most vegans choose the lifestyle based on moral and ethical ideals. Although taking eggs from a chicken does not harm the fowl the conditions they are subject to is wholly cruel and unnatural. Same goes with cows, bees, and such. Even so called free range and organic meats have a very broad definition in which they must follow to earn the distinction. Vegans however take it one step further and also shun all animal by products in everyday items such as shampoo, cosmetics, clothing items, and so on. You'd be surprised of all the animal by products lurking in your food!!|||Extreme? It's easy and it feels so good.
I was a vegetarian, but I didn't want to take part in the breeding of millions of animals to be confined, cruelly handled and brutally slaughtered.
Not eating dead animals is good for you, but who else is it helping? You are still saying you are okay with chick culling, veal farming, and everything else associated with the meat industry. You are still handing them your money to continue these practices.
So I went vegan.
It's not restrictive at all, I eat huge meals all the time and I love to cook so I'm always trying new things.|||you can still be vegan and eat eggs. it depends though where you get the eggs. my husband is a very VERY strict vegan and so are our friends. they raise chickens (without the rooster) and naturally produce eggs. since he can see how they are raised and knows that they are not being abused or that the eggs are not fertilized he will eat them. our friends though do not like the taste of eggs anymore so don't eat them.
others wont eat eggs because they simply don't know where the product came from, it grosses them out or they are not using their heads. (just a joke)
i HAVE to eat eggs because i have a b12 deficiency (b12 only found in meat and vitamins) but i am still a veggie.
DAIRY is a whole different demon. but with the same aspects. dairy cows are generally treated like crap in the industry (plus their is puss in industry milk). but if you know someone who has a dairy cow and they treat it respectfully go for it.
hope that helps some.|||www.chooseveg.com
This website explains the horrors that the chickens in the egg industry go through, and the cows in the dairy industry. This is why vegans dont want anything to do with such a horrible industry. Its how the animals are kept. And yes, they do suffer from our consumption. Cows are artificially impregnated over and over, so they will continue to produce milk. The calves are immediately taken away from their mothers when born. They are killed for the rummen in their stomach (ingredient in most commercial cheese), killed instantly, or they are shipped to the veal farm. So when you buy dairy, you are supporting the veal industry. Chickens are kept in horrible conditions as well, often living in battery cages so small they cant turn around. The floors are slanted so the eggs roll into the catcher, so they permanently live on a filthy wire, slanted floor. When the cows and chickens production slows, they are sent to the slaughterhouse. Often their bodies are too worn out by the time they get there that they can only be made into dog food, chicken soup, or hamburgers. Free range is just as bad. So if you are against animal cruelty, but not against taking their products (eggs) you should get your own chickens. But the way I look at it, the eggs are menstrual fluids of a chicken, and the milk is lactation from a cow. Is that natural for you to eat? I think not.|||Its not the"cruelty" to unfertilized eggs, its just the living conditions. Many people go vegan because the egg laying and milk giving animals aren't usually treated very well, unless you buy free range and organic. Some people also do it for the health benefits, just like vegetarianism. And veganism isn't a RESTRICTED diet, its just cutting out animal products and introducing yourself to a whole new world of delicious non animal foods.|||God has given us everything..
Everything here is for us..
You have to respect people's food..
Yeah sometimes veganism is extreme (with some people)
A non-vegan who eats everything will not make noise about the food he eats.. He will eat what he likes without boasting..
However, I have noticed the vegans will go on giving long lectures about the how non-veg food is.. they don't shut up and let anyone eat whatever they want to..
A person has to respect other decisions..
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ha ha ha..|||Dairy supports the veal industry, which is one of the cruelest practices in the meat industry. Not to mention, there are numerous antibiotics and growth hormones in dairy. Yes, some companies are trying to change this, but it does not change the condition the dairy cow lives in. Nor does it change the fact that we are the only creatures on the planet that consume another animals milk past weaning.
Eggs- I eat them. they are not fertilized. However, I only buy cage free. I buy knowing what happens to male chicks. However, I am making the transition to use mostly, if not all, eggs from my family's small backyard flock who are free to roam, live, roost, eat naturally, etc.|||It depends who is the person who makes the dairy products, and eggs. If your a person that have few hens free with no cage in the yard that's okay (if your not planing on killing them), but if you have hens in cages that's not okay. Think about it.... would you like living your life in a cage? Of course not! The same thing goes with the cows. I believe if cows are roaming freely in a really large field , and they are not going to be eaten there is no problem. But if you keep cows packed in stalls where they have no room to move that is abuse!
I think veganism isn't extreme because usually who becomes one really wants to. Everyone tells me being a vegetarian is extreme, and it is not.
ps L responded greatly!|||I'm a vegan not because of the conditions or feelings of animals. Dairy is nothing but fat and is not good for your body. We have been brainwashed into thinking that dairy is good for us because companies make billions a year on their dairy products. You don't know what you are eating when you eat dairy or meat. You could be consuming bacteria and diseases that are coming from the animals that produced it. I suggest reading a book called Skinny Bitc h by Rory Freedman and Kim Barnouin|||Veganism is not extreme. It is the 'proper' vegetarianism. Vegetarianism doesn't stop animal cruelty, it's just a halfway house.
Consuming dairy directly supports the veal industry, and eating eggs supports the chicken meat industry. All the animals that produce food for you will be killed for meat and may have had a miserable life until then.|||vegan isn't all about animal welfare. Dairy is one of the worst things you can ever consume, probably worse than meat. The dairy industry does have a huge amount of cruelty involved too. A restricted diet? I eat a more variety and broad variety of foods than i ever did when i was a meat eater. I am not missing out on anything because i have so many amazing things i can eat.|||I'm neither vegetarian nor vegan but I drastically changed my eating habits about a year or two ago. I feel much better in many ways.
I guess that anything that is healthy for a person and makes them feel better is not "too extreme."
Veganism is not for me but if others threive on it, more power to them.
Red meat, junk food and beer are the worst - and that's what I gave up! :)|||It sounds like you are concerned about cruelty to animals, and that's partly why you don't eat meat. I think that's admirable.
The next step is for you to think about how dairy cows and layer hens are treated while they're alive. If you take the time to learn about this, you will understand why people choose to be vegan.|||A lot of the reason why people go vegan is because of the horrible conditions that animals are kept in, not just because they are killed
Edit: I noticed someone down there say no ice cream for vegans.. actually, you can get plently of dairy free products including ice cream, milk, cheese and even chocolate! :D|||quite simply the reasoning is that cheese is made from animal products and hence the restriction same logic with eggs they are a product of a live animal and the process in egg farms could be viewed as animal cruelty. It is a personal choice.|||Im a vegie, and have been for about 5 months now, But vegans dont eat cheese eggs milk etc because it has been made by like animals sort of thiing, Milk from cows made into butter and cheese, Eggs chickens layed. And some animals kept in cruel conditions.|||my sister is a vegetarian and her girlfriend is a vegan. they fight about it all the time! Processed foods are the biggest no no to them.
I love to walk by them eating chips and bring home burgers from my favorite burger joint. pisses them off. then they gang up on me.
it's funny as he!!.|||yup i think so too....even i've been vegetarian all my life and i don't see the logic in veganism. Maybe its a fad, maybe its insane, i dont know. Bot too extreme it certainly is.Atleast I think so.|||i can't be a vegan either.
it seems too drastic to me too.
so i'm stcking to vegetarianism.
i'm sure vegans have their arguments for their choice and i respect their choice.|||The extreme would rather be some vegans not eating mushrooms, since that doesn't really belong to the plant category.|||It's about how they are treated while they are alive. Laying hens get their beaks cut off, and other things happen that cause them a lot of pain.|||Too extremely ethical? or too extremely healthy?|||i use to have a vegan roommate, she was a little too hardcore about it and tried to push it on everyone.|||if you dont want to continue then quit it as it doesnt have any sense.|||not really. Go to youtube and type in "Egg and milk industry)|||Hello Kireina,
1. looks like u r caught in fades like everyone else in this world.
2. First of all many diets have come and gone, what stays with u is what u like and what ur taste buds are made for and ur stomach loves to care.
3. Ego is a HUGE things. It wants to engulf everything around. So whatever i do i would consider it the only right thing in this world and start thinking why others are not doing it and start doing things so that other do it the same way. This is how religions and sects are born and they change life for many.
4. Tell them milk contains bacteria, it is non-veg and u will get a bounce. Tell them that by poultry and animal husbandry much animal life and genes are preserved and it is not against nature and u will find people asking u what is ur share.
5.So at the end of it what u feel is correct, any thing that is pursued forcefully is innately incorrect and extreme.
6. Eat what u like and tell ur mind and soul to enjoy it because this is what God GAVE u today.
all the best.. happy gastronomics|||I agree,
I think veganism is a bit too extreme...
I'm a veggie [and ive been told countless times to stop being so]
and I do think that'd be too extreme,
what can you eat...
I mean, no icecream..
XD
Basically im expecting my first baby and i'm a vegan. I've heard alot about vegan mothers 'forcing' (encouraging) their veganism on their children, but i really don't want to do this.
I haven't always been a vegan, my parents aren't vegans, so i don't see how it is my right to 'force' my opinions and beliefs onto a baby who can't make an informed decision.
Although as my baby gets older she might decide that she wants to eat meat and use animal products (which as i said is her choice), BUT as the primary carer (for want of a better word) i will have to prepare meals and provide for her. I believe that i should be a parent foremost and my own needs will come secondary to that.
Is this going against what i believe in?|||You are doing the right thing and I applaud your balanced views and open mindedness, you are thinking as a mother not a vegan.
Whether we like it or not babies need certain nutrients when they are young in order to grow healthy, these nutrients, proteins and amino acids come from a wide range of food and should not be restricted. As much as people will claim substitutes will be ok, the human body may disagree especially at such a tender age.
When older our diets can be more varied. So when the child reaches an age old enough to make an informed and independent decisions then let them choose their dietary lifestyle and support whatever they choose.
You will be a good mother, I can see this already.|||not thats being a great mom
i feel like this
Your a vegan so most of your meals are going to be vegan
but after you nurse, you introduce MILK
thats your first break from veganism
its very good for the baby and still vegetarian
one day a week give the baby chicken nuggets, or a hot dog
this way she or he can tolerate it.
the other days is vegan diet.
Allow the child regular cookies, and things like that during playdates.
these are easy things without 100 percent going against it all
I am super proud of you for not Forcing it on your child
But i have a very good feeling your child will in the end decide that vegan is best for them aswell, but if not
you have established a very important thing within your little family, Acceptance , tolerance , and most importantly
Unconditional LOVE
Best of luck to you
Meg|||I dont think thats forcing your believes...when you were a baby and a kid you parents werre not vegetarians right and they gave you meat
| think is very normal to teach kids about who you are..and if they choose something different then is great to respect them
But I am a vegetartian my baby is almost 4 and he loves it...he knows we are different he feels good about it, he doesnt crave mc donalds for example he plays at theplay ground and hasnt ever asked me for a hamburger
i cant think of me being vegetarian and preparing meat to my baby..i would say teach him what you are
he or she choose you as his mom....he knew you before he or she came here...he or she saw his life your life and choose you..this is a fact is not a coinsidence who our parents get to be we pick them
so definetly i will share my beliefs with the baby and then ;et him decide when he get older
but like i said mine is 4 and he is like in a party...mom that has ham right and we dont eat that ...and he feels proud he is like mommy...oh and he is 100% healthy and too big for his age (just in case for the people who say they dont develop ok if you dont give them meat)|||no not at all, you are giving your child a choice and if you are a healthy vegan then there is no harm in your child havind a wide variety of foods, i wouldnt knoiw where to start with a vegetarian dish let alone vegan. just make sure she gets all the nutriets she needs.|||I don't think so. I think you are making the right choice by respecting your kid wishes and right to choose, when the child is old enough than you can explain to the child, your views on it, and let the child decide if he?she wants to be a vegan or not. You are making a very wise decision, good luck.|||no not by any means. It means you are being responsible and giving your child all the choices . Just be sure to provide information for both sides..your beliefs and then also the information about eating meat.
Don't worry! your going to do fine..and awesome that you will allow your child to make their own choices!!|||no its not! you know what's best for your baby, and I am so happy to see that you aren't trying to force that. :) Too many parents ignore that.
I am glad to see that you are giving her a choice.|||Absolutely not! You said it best, you can't force your beliefs on someone else. Your child will thank you for it down the road. I wish everyone had your way of thinking!|||Going vegan at an early age is the worst thought possible. A balanced diet is still the best for growing children...trust me, I know. You can stick with organic food if you like, though. If you have trouble with preparing meat, then you can...ask your husband, or a friend to cook meals for you...You have to think about the fact that as a good parent, you should let your children choose too.|||No, you are doing what's right. It's good that you don't want to force that on her. I agree with you 100%.|||That is absolutely not going against what you believe in.... You can offer her the choice... and explain to her, when she is old enough, why you are a vegan..... however, since you are a vegan and will be feeding her as you would feed yourself, she may just become used to being a vegan...you may not even have to ask yourself this question.....if you feed her as a vegan, this is all she will know until she is older....when she is older, she will want to make the choice for herself, and that is okey.....don't beat yourself up over it... :)|||Children need protein(chicken, fish) to grow into healthy stable adults. She should have a balanced meal. Adults can tolerate this, but children can't. They are constantly growing throughout the years. Good for you on letting her make her own choice.|||I would be most concerned with making sure your baby is getting the proper nutrients from the best sources. Pretty much the best possible food for your baby is an animal product (breast milk).
I know people choose veganism for a number of different reasons. If you believe strongly in not eating animal products, then I don't see a problem with instilling that value in your child. Part of being a parent is making choices for them until they are mature enough to make the choices for themselves.
But, if you do go vegan, I would definitely make sure you have a reputable, unbiased source for how to properly give your child the nutrition that it needs.|||No Children are people first and need meat to get strong and healthy while growing up.|||The healthiest, tallest, strongest child I have ever seen was not only raised vegan, but raw.
As a parent, you have a responsibility to raise your child in the best way that you know. When the child has reached "the age of reason" and can make informed choices, it should be allowed to make its own choices and mistakes.
If you know what you are doing, raising a child as a vegan is the healthiest, safest path.|||Nope, it's not going against it. It was your decision to make in the first place, let her make the decision whether she does or doesn't want meat products.
Just give her the options when she can start making her own decisions. There are plenty of baby foods out there that combine meat in them and plenty that don't. Always offer up two ideas about b'fast/lunch/dinner for her and let her choose.
Your parents fed you and you made a decision, same thing will work for her.
I'm beginning to go vegan, I'm currently vegetarian... only for the past few months though. I'm 15 and I have little experience with veganism. I obviously know I can't eat meats or any animal products such as eggs and milk. What else can/can't I have? I know there are some tricky things like substances in certain candies that I can't have or something? I need some specific guidelines and I am having trouble finding good ones! Someone help!|||I'd recommend that you read this article.
http://www.veganoutreach.org/howvegan
Here is the definition of veganism from the source that is closest to its origins.
http://www.vegansociety.com/newsroom/ind鈥?/a>
Bread, pasta, cereal, rice, beans, peas, lentils, nuts, seeds, fruits and veggies can easily offer everything that you need except B12.
http://www.veganhealth.org/sh
http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo
All vegetarians should take a B12 supplement regularly since most people eat meat, dairy AND fortified cereals yet still have a B12 status that is lower than recommended.
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/b12
It may help you if you see proof that vegetarians have the same potential as anyone else.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sto鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/鈥?/a>
http://www.macdanzig.net/bio.php
http://www.scottjurek.com/career.php
If you need meat or dairy during any stage of your life or to live any certain lifestyle, why does the American Dietetic Association say otherwise?
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada鈥?/a>|||Jelly is made of Gelatin which is ground cow bones, that is also used in many makeups, outside pills to make them go down easier, any jelly based lolly... |||You can't eat:
Cheese
Milk
Eggs
Butter
Gelatin (marshmellows and jelly like candies, jello, pudding, sour patch kids, gummi worms etc.)
I'm pretty sure you can eat margirine though. But make sure you look out for certain oils too. Some can be made from animals.|||you cant eat any dairy products, eggs, or gelatin. good luck! :)|||veganism isn't meant to be. our teeth and jaw are designed to eat meat and veg tables and I believe your doing harm to your body by following your path.
The guildlines are simple you can't eat any animal byproduct.
that's all meat
dairy products.
nearly all sweets. (mars bars snickers,haribo,chewing gum)
nearly all sweets use some sort of animal product.
rather then telling what you can't eat The list is shorter by telling you what you can eat.
well fruit and veg. but not apples most apples are covered in a special wax which comes from bees. same with kiwi and most melons.
drinks. diet coke no normal coke yes. pepsi no.
orange juice your fine.
erm some cakes use butter which comes from animals. so most cakes are off limites.
I can't really think of much else just check packaging for anything with the word Gum in.
|||i really don't know
i'm only a vegetarian
but i know a good website
goveg.com
well i think it is ? hha
hope it's helpful|||By being a vegan, you strictly limit most of the foods out there. You won't be able to eat anything involving animals directly or otherwise such as:
Honey
Candybars (chocolate contains milk after all)
Jello
Cookies
Cake
Pie
White Bread
Crackers
Anything involving white sugar
So basically that limits you to this: if you can't grow it, don't eat it.
Veganism is not a very healthy lifestyle as such one of a vegetarian. People have been known to die from it, and you can google it if you think I'm lying. Believe me, you're not doing the cow any favors by not drinking milk (they have to be milked daily to keep alive after all, so why not put the result into good use), but it's your choice.|||I can't tell what country you're asking this from, but if you're in the US, what the first poster referred to as 'jelly' is what we call jello or flavored gelatin. The jelly/jam you put on bread is usually vegan, its thickened with fruit pectin:)
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display鈥?/a>
http://www.veganwolf.com/animal_ingredie鈥?/a>
THose are lists of common animal derived ingredients, the second one is a bit better because it tells some about what type of food you're likely to find the ingredients in and is longer.
It takes a lot of work to figure out exactly what types of food are completely vegan and what has those weird animal ingredients added in. Frequently stuff that looks vegan turns out not to be:( It is really up to you though how strict you want to be, but if you want zero animal products those lists are a good place to start, or try googling 'non vegan ingredients' or soemthing like that. Hope that helps a bit
ETA_ a common thing in candy is 'carmine' dye, or cochineal. Its a red food coloring that is made from beetles. Also lots of ingredients in soaps and shampoos, etc are not vegan. What you will or won't use is really a personal decision, some people consider vegan just related to diet, some won't use animal products in anything. Read up and see what you want to do I guess:)|||Gelatin is covered above, look out if you take multi-vitamins most vitamin D is sourced from animal hide. Oh, no honey of course.
You'll have to become proficient at reading labels.
note: you can eat sugar. Its plant source after all. Vegans and Fruitarians (yup, they exist) have died of malnutrition its true but its because they didn't know what they were doing and didn't seek help before starting nor after they were getting vitally sick. Veganism will not kill you.|||The word "vegetarian" is a generic blanket term used to describe anybody who does not eat meat, poultry, fish, or seafood. This encompasses vegans and also the various vegetarian sub-groups. Vegetarians are generally those people who have chosen a diet with far less restrictions than those chosen by a vegan.
The differences between the various vegetarian sub-groups may appear to be small, but they are very important to the members who belong to each groups. In many cases the distinctions are important dietary or ethical decisions taken by the individual.
Here are the various vegetarian sub-groups:
SEMI-VEGETARIAN
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Semi-vegetarians are people who have chosen to live a lifestyle which is not strictly vegetarian. A semi-vegetarian may be a person who only eats meat occasionally, or perhaps doesn鈥檛 eat meat, but eats poultry and fish.
1) Ovo-Lacto-Vegetarian
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Ovo-lacto vegetarians are vegetarians who do not eat meat, poultry, fish, and seafood, but do eat eggs and milk. This is by far the largest group of vegetarians.
2) Ovo-Vegetarian
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Ovo-vegetarians are people who would be classed as vegans if they did not eat eggs.
3) Lacto-Vegetarian
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Lacto-vegetarians are people who would be classed as vegans if they did not consume milk.
VEGAN
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This is by far the strictest vegetarian sub-group or category.
A vegan is a person who has chosen not to consume any animal products or byproducts. Some will even so far as not consuming honey and yeast, and others will not wear any clothing made from animal products. Veganism is a diet and lifestyle that seeks to exclude the use of animals for food, clothing, or any other purpose. Vegans endeavor not to use or consume animal products of any kind. The most common reasons for becoming a vegan are ethical commitment or moral convictions concerning animal rights, the environment, human health, and spiritual or religious concerns. Of particular concern are the practices involved in factory farming and animal testing, and the intensive use of land and other resources required for animal farming.|||you can't have anything that comes from animals or is tested on animals.
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So, i've challenged myself to go raw vegan for a couple weeks (right now I have a terrible terrible junky diet). I was wondering if anyone knew of any good books I can read before hand so I can make sure I do things right and get all the nutrition I need. Any other tips are cool too!|||For starter recipes, nothing beats "Raw Food Made Easy" by Jennifer Cornbleet. For basic recipes and all sorts of information related to raw food, get "The Complete Book of Raw Food" by Julie Rodwell and Lori Baird.
Since raw foodists' digestive systems function quite efficiently, they absorb more nutrients from the foods they eat. Take a B-12, and you should be fine. Besides, no nutritional deficit is likely to manifest in just a few weeks.
Tip: At first, carry some raw cashews or a Lara Bar with you at all times, for cravings. Make sure you consume enough fat. Think you're craving protein? Eat half an avocado- it goes away.
Good luck!|||Well I became a raw vegan yesterday after being a pescetarian for 6 months and after that a full vegetarian for 8 months and it's incredibly great.
I had a banana for breakfast. 2 Apples for lunch. A strawberry smoothie with a bunch of almonds for snacky time. A few bowls of salad with all the raw veggies you could imagine.
It's amazing and my motivation is that I'm sick of America being so dam fat. I hate that America doesn't take care of itself. And I don't want to be the typical not only fat but unhealthy american. I've been an a natural healthy "obsession" lately. I've literally gotten into fights over health issues and I'm incredibly motivated over this. |||Two books I would recommend are: The Complete Book of Raw Food, edited by Lori Baird and Ani's Raw Food Kitchen by Ani Phyo|||This site will give you much of that and also recommend great reading etc:
http://www.living-foods.com/
im a 17 year old girl
my dad says being a vegan will so something negative to my reproductive system and that i have a chance of having unhealthy babies in the future.
true?|||well you need to make sure you get plenty of protein and lipids (fats basically) and calcium and iron most important of all. so really a healthy vegan would generally be a vegan who takes a fair few supplements aswell, because you really just cannot practically get enough iron into your body from veges alone, you need some meat or iron supplements.|||False. There are many healthy babies born to and breastfed by vegan mothers. If anything, you'll have a significant decrease in risk of pre-eclampsia. As long as you eat a healthy, balanced vegan diet, you're good to go. Infertility is brought on by underlying medical conditions such as endometriosis, diabetes, and pelvic inflammatory disease; not a vegan diet. Tell Dad that the vegans on Y!A say, " Pshh! Yeah right! Get your facts straight!" When the time comes, however, you will need to make sure your unborn baby is getting adequate nutrients and protein- which can be met with a well-planned vegan diet.|||the long term effects of early veganism?
1) vegans live on average 15 years longer than omnis
2) you will rarely get ill
3) your children will be super healthy and they will know of the cruelty that surrounds them
4) you will have the best tasting food
5) you will be more compassionate
enjoy!!|||long term effects=old age & great health!
lucky for you, there are books by the hundreds to teach you the truth.
my favorite statistic is definitely living 6-10 years long, because life is soooooooo beautiful and I dont want to miss a SECOND if I dont have to!
youre doing the absolute right thing for animals and for yourself :) you will feel & think differently, pretty life changing :)|||way false. veganism actually is healthier for the body, reproductive systems included. do you want chemicals or healthy nutrition for your future kids?|||your dad is just trying to scare you
there is a book called "generation v"
by claire askew. for vegan teens by a vegan teen. maybe it will help you|||not if u eat lots of protien like beans and tofu|||true
some don't eat good things so they lack calcium,protein and iron.|||Veganism may or may not have a negative impact on health. It depends on how the diet is planned, and what foods are eaten in what quantities, the same as any other diet.
There will be people who eat better and worse vegan diets, and a few might struggle. But the scientific data so far says that vegan diets, well planned, appear to appropriate at any stage of life, and can actually have significant health benefits over conventional ones.|||If the diet is balanced there really should be no problems
Vegans do have to be careful with vitamin B12 because this is only found naturally in animal products - meat, eggs, milk B12 deficincy can lead to anemia and nervous system damage
However it is only needed in very small amounts and as long as they are getting plenty of the fortified foods (where the B12 is made from bacteria)- fortified soya milks, cereals, marmite etc then there really should be no problem at all
Vegan society has some info:http://www.vegansociety.com/food/nutriti鈥?/a>|||A proper vegan diet has no negative impact on health.
A diet lacking in sufficient nutrients and minerals will affect the body in many ways; whether the diet is vegan, vegetarian, or omnivorous.|||There aren't any, as long as you eat a BALANCED DIET and get all of your nutrients.
There isn't anything in milk or meat that you can't find in vegan food. Except blood and high concentrations of fat and cholesterol.
From cookbooks, to the pain in the butt things about going vegan, to ingredients in foods to watch out for...? Thanks:)|||Skinny ***** and Skinny ***** in the Kitch|||The China Study, Vegan Freak, Diet for a New America, Becoming Vegan|||Vegan Yum Yum
Vegan Brunch
Food Revolution
Becoming Vegan
Animal Ingredients|||I recently read this book called skinny *****, that's the girl version, there is also a male version called skinny bastard. google them.
If yes, in what way and to what extent?|||Interesting question. I'm not a Buddhist although I've adopted some of their values and beliefs because I think many Buddhist teachings make sense. I believe in minimising suffering (whether that be human or animal suffering).Some branches of Buddhism promote veg*nism as a way of being compassionate for animals.
Some Buddhists believe eating meat creates 'bad karma', creating negative repercussions/consequences in a future life (note I said ''some'' Buddhists). The 5 moral Precepts act as a guide for Buddhists to help them live a moral life. You can view them as ''guidelines'' (for lack of a better word).
"Why should one refrain from killing? It is because all living beings have a life; they love their life and do not wish to die. Even one of the smallest creatures, the mosquito, when it approaches to bite you, will fly away if you make the slightest motion. Why does it fly away? Because it fears death. It figures that if it drinks your blood you will take its life. From this you can see that all living beings love life and do not wish to die. Especially people. Everyone wants to live and no one wants to die. Although people sometimes commit suicide, ordinarily people do not seek death. Suicide is a special exception to the principle. That is why we should nurture compassionate thought. Since we wish to live, we should not kill any other living beings. That explains the precept against killing''.
Just a reminder- I'm not Buddhist. I just think a lot of Buddhist teachings have credibility. Thanks for asking this. :]|||Thank you!! :-) Report Abuse
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I'm Catholic and I have been ever since I was little.
While the Church has no official "stance" on animal cruelty that I know of, I have personally found that my veganism fits in nicely with my being Catholic.
My God is a kind and merciful being. I don't think He ever intended His creation to be treated in manners that so-called factory farms deem to be necessary. As He created everything in a way that is pleasing to Him, I think He would want us to live in the most harmonious way possible with other animals.
I think all creatures deserve respect. Torturing, genetically modifying, abusing, cutting off limbs (and beaks and so on) is not what I call respectful. Yes, they are animals, but they are all sentient beings. God created a vast variety of animals with vast varieties of intelligence and comprehension. Just because we're human and we happen to have the highest functioning brain out of all doesn't give us the right to do as we please with the animals.
I actually feel closer to God since abstaining from meat. I think that because I respect his creatures more, I have a greater understanding of what His love means to me. Since I stand in awe of all that He has created and do my best to honor it, I feel that He has drawn me closer to Him.|||No, I'm vegan because of animal rights, which is firmly grounded in fact and reasoning - philosophy.
However, I would say that veganism has had an effect on my 'spirituality' or whatever you want to call it. I'm more at ease and have a stronger Chi than before, but that could be because of many factors.|||it is an ethical choice, which would need to match with your other beliefs. I personally dont agree with abusing animals, but do agree with killing them for meat. I would also like to see better conditions, though.|||No, I am not religious. I am an animal lover and activist.
I believe that we should not abuse or slaughter animals. |||nope.
I eat meat but it makes me laugh how people think a Vegan diet is really unhealthy and have wild ideas that you will waste away on this diet. My mum is vegan to control her diabetes better and nothing has happened to her. If Veganism is so unhealthy, why aren't they dying left right and centre?|||I'm close to 50, healthy (my life insurance company insured me as super-preferred so they don't think I'm about to die anytime soon), and have been eating a vegan diet for about 25 years. My diet is high in fruits and vegetables and omega 3 fatty acids+ I supplement with B12 and vitamin D. I know a lot of healthy long-term vegans, middle-aged and older.
Now OTOH, cotton candy, potato chips and soda are vegan, so it is possible to have an unhealthy vegan diet, filled with junk food and low in micronutrients.
The real reason so many people think a vegan diet is unhealthy is that they are brainwashed by the meat industry to think you need meat for iron/protein/strength and that one needs dairy for calcium/strong healthy bones. When in reality, it's an excess of animal fat and animal protein that are major causes of heart disease and cancer. Also, many people are nutritionally illiterate. They ask vegans, "where do you get your protein?" or "where do you get your calcium?" not realizing that beans and green vegetables are excellent sources of protein and that there are many excellent vegan sources of calcium: almonds, sesame seeds, kale, etc.
Also, a lot of meat eaters don't want to know or believe that there's anything unhealthy, cruel, and environmentally unsustainable about their diet. It's easier simply to keep your head in the sand and attack vegans as being unhealthy, such as by pointing to a famous vegan or two with an eating disorder, generalizing that to the entire group, and not looking at any of the many positive examples of healthy vegans.
P.S. to Rockle: My husband is a vegan martial arts instructor with many blackbelts in many martial arts. Also, Cherie Soria, the vegan head of Living Light raw foods culinary school has more than one black belt in karate. The stereotype of whimpy weak vegans is just that--a stereotype.||||The "vegan diet" is not unhealthy because no reasonable diet really is. All of the "mainstream diets" emphasize "well balanced". However, some vegans, as with vegetarians and omnivores, are not as conscientious about what they eat as long as it meets the "rules" (no animal products whatsoever). Veganism isn't unhealthy but some vegans have an unhealthy vegan diet.|||veganism is just a diet. it can be done correctly or incorrectly. i think many people think that it's unhealthy cause they have been raised to believe that you need meat to live.
another reason might be because someone decides not to be vegan after while. this doesn't mean it's unhealthy,maybe they missed meat or were eating incorrectly. maybe they didn't have time to cook proper meals or maybe. it's all individual. many people are vegan for a lifetime.|||Vegan-ism is like any food lifestyle. You are what you eat. As long as you get the proper amount of nutrients to keep you body functioning properly then you will be healthy. Humans have omnivore teeth because that allows us to eat and get nutrients from both meat and veggies. However with proper supplements people can now eat however they want. It sounds like your mom has a good handle on her nutritional needs. Most people who embrace vegan-ism don't take a supplement or make sure that they replace the nutrition that they were getting through meat. So some people on any restrictive food diet will suffer some body issues and will look unhealthy|||To odimwitdwon: The ex-vegan you described probably got that way because she wasn't eating the right foods to maintain her weight and she wasn't taking iron pills to prevent herself from becoming anemic.
Because yes, you can easily live a healthy vegan life. You just have to know a lot about food and ingredients to ensure your getting enough protein, iron, etc.|||I'm a martial artist, fueled entirely by plant food. I just sigh when people tell me all vegans are pale and weak, with crumbling bones, and anemia.
I got my black belt after five years of not eating meat. (the black belt took a year... I was veg for 4 before that)|||It's strange how some people can become so infuriated and passionate over somebody else's diet. It's just food. It's not your body or your decision. Mind your own business, get rid of that hate in your heart, and just be happy!|||I'm not arguing that it can't be done healthfully but there are all kinds of diets that are not ok in the long run that people don't just drop dead from so that's not really a valid argument.|||...and meat eaters DO die of heart disease and colon cancer....good topic.|||Yeah, just like cigarettes! I've got a great uncle who is 90 and still smoking, so that is PROOF they aren't bad for you!!
What a moron.
I know another ex vegan who went on it to control her blood sugar. she lost weight, became borderline anemic and her doctor told her to get off her unhealthy diet and back to meat.
Let people who can think do the thinking, you should just follow their lead.
News Flash: Everybody has different genes.
News Flash: Everybody has different gut fauna
News Flash: Everybody is unique.|||Read some of these articles and think again:
http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-ve…
http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.h…
http://chetday.com/vegandietdangers.htm
http://www.listen2yourgut.com/blog/dange…|||is because they think vegans dont get enuf protein by eating veggis but is not true btw some meat is also healty
my gf is vg and she eats a fish or chiken once in a month|||Because most of them go back to eating meat. There are a lot of high profile vegans who have admitted they've gone back to eating meat because the vegan diet made them sick.
Angelina Jolie says "my vegan diet nearly killed me."
The VoraciousVegan (a top ten vegan blog of 2010) says "a vegan no more"
Author of the "Moosewood" cookbooks has gone back to eating meat. Her new cookbook includes recipes containing meat.
The Chicken-tender website "As I've alluded in recent posts, I've become a meat-eater. Not just a borderline omnivore who eats fish occasionally, but a full-on consumer of food-with-a-face."
VeganLunchBox: "...I now aspire to the label "nutritarian" rather than vegan."
to name a few......
ADDED: Isn't it funny that when someone leaves the vegan diet, they're branded "eating disordered"? Ignoring, of course, that many vegans are vegan because of their eating disorder!
More at the link: "According to Dr. Angela Guarda, director of the Johns Hopkins Eating Disorders Program, many vegans (and vegetarians) who enter her treatment center initially deny an underlying problem—only to later confess that their efforts to avoid animal products were really an effort to avoid food in general. “In most of our patients, the vegetarianism is in the service of the eating disorder,” she said.
For this reason, Guarda and her staff try to dissuade patients from observing any form of vegetarianism while undergoing treatment, encouraging them to broaden their food repertoire to include some meat. Other eating disorder and nutrition specialists report similar approaches.
Dr. Marcia Herrin, founder of the Dartmouth College Eating Disorders Prevention, Education and Treatment Program and now a dietician in private practice, takes a stricter (if potentially problematic) approach: Herrin tells parents not to let their kids be vegetarian until they go to college, echoing that the diet can create a “ruse” that loved ones can’t see through. “Most families don’t have the time to prepare vegetarian entrées,” she said. “What’s at risk is the child’s growth and development, and potentially an eating disorder.”
Herrin may be onto something: A 2009 study in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association revealed that young adults ages 15 to 23 who reported being vegetarian were, at some point, more likely to have also engaged in unhealthy weight-loss behaviors like bingeing, purging, and using diet pills or laxatives. And surveys show that the prevalence of vegetarianism among eating-disorder patients is higher than in the general population."
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Im writing about the history, positive and negitive things about veganism. I need a thesis statment. Please help!|||Hint: Define veganism. Then, write about it by making agreement/disagreement. You can do both for your essay. It's best to get the sources and plan an outline before starting your draft.
Good luck!|||Veganism is a life stile priported by many to have many benefits.
I haven't tried raw veganism but my wife and I have been doing Fuhrman's Eat To Live diet for about a month. I've dropped from 220 down to 205. My wife has gone from 130 to 124.
I don't know much about raw veganism but I can tell you about Eat To Live. Fuhrman's philosophy is to eat mainly foods that give you the most possible nutrients, vitamins, and minerals for the fewest possible calories. His book lists the most common type of foods and assigns nutritional values to each, between 100 and 0. The more food you eat at the top (closer to 100), the more nutrition and the fewer calories you get. The foods that are closer to 0 give you more calories and less nutrition. Naturally, the foods that have the highest nutrient density are vegetables, followed by fruits, nuts and grains.
I don't know if raw veganism makes any distinctions about nutrient values. Maybe someone else can answer that one for you.
I've been following the Eat to Live program about 90 percent of the time for the last month or so. I fill up as much on the high nutrient value foods as I can. But I still eat burgers (had 3 last week) fries, chicken and other food I love too - just not as often as I used to.I also love a glass of red wine a couple times a week. So I don't feel I'm depriving myself, and I never feel hungry.
Eat To Live isn't for everyone. You need a certain amount of discipline, but there's no counting calories, totaling up points or measuring portions. And no hunger. Does it work? Absolutely, if you follow the guidelines. Will it work for someone who's already willing to be a vegan? Probably like gangbusters.
Check out the review below if you want to read about it in more detail.|||You may as well eat broken glass as try either of those diets.
I have a lot of info for my speech, but I need a few tips on how to keep it informative and not sound persuasive... Any advice & tips are welcome..|||Well, it depends on your focus, I suppose. You have one option, which is to completely avoid any discussion of the touchier subjects.
Another one is to have the part of your speech that discusses reasons for going vegetarian be as neutral as possible. Rather than saying, "Factory farms are morally wrong because the animals are kept in horrible conditions," say, "Ethical vegetarians are often concerned by the treatment of animals in factory farms. They object to practices such as tail and ear docking and debeaking. They also cite overcrowding and unnatural diets as reasons for objecting to factory farms."
When discussing environmental concerns, do the same thing. Rather than saying, "Factory farms have a negative impact on the environment," say "Vegetarians also have environmental concerns about commercial animal agriculture. They often point out greenhouse gasses, manure lagoons, etc, etc."
Basically, add a "Vegetarians and vegans worry/say/etc" before statements that can be construed as persuasive. I also suggest avoiding visual aids that show the uglier side of things, as they are definitely rhetorical tools that are designed to persuade.
Good luck to you.|||I would say just use facts and the information you got without putting your opinion in.
I took a speech class a few months ago myself and writing informative speeches was almost like writing a research paper. So if you keep that in mind and don't bring up your opinion you should be fine.
Hope I helped:))
and Good Luck by the way:]
-What made you do it?
-How do you deal with peoples comments?
-Tell me, do you HONESTLY judge meat eaters and get mad when they judge you or do you hate people who judge you and don't judge others?
-Worst thing that somebody as said/done to you?
p.s. i am a vegan =DD|||Well I just ate a hamburger and saw petas website and I watched a video on farm animals and I literally threw up afterwards. I couldn't deal with myself knowing I had just eaten a juicy burger and after seeing those videos it made me sick. After finding more and more about animal products I learned how unhealthy animal products were so that helped a lot too but mainly it was for the animals.
As far as dealing with people's comments I have been asking that same question on here. I learned what makes me feel good is to stand up for it because it is now something I really believe in and I am not going to let people put me down for it. I don't push it on anyone else but if they are going to ask me about it or put me down for it than I definitely speak up.
I hate it when I'm judged and I hate it when other's are judged. I don't see meat eaters as bad people at all, I see them as uneducated and it is not that I get upset with them until I realize how closed minded they are and aren't even willing to learn the TRUTH and FACTS.
The worst thing was this past weekend at fathers day, we were visiting my bf's parents and him and I both went vegan over a month ago and his family hate the fact that we did. When we walked in the first thing I heard were gunshots on the television. His father and brother in law purposely were watching the HUNTING channel on extra loud so we could here the gun shots and animals. At the dinner table they would make dying animal noises as they ate their steak and after dinner they kept making smar a$$ comments. It was so overwhelming.
These were some great questions. I love being vegan, and bless you for being vegan!|||- Seeing animals being abused and living in foul places and the pollution I would not be contributing to (water and air pollution) by not eating animal-derived products.
- I don't! I give them a HUGE lesson on how animals get to their plates then later on, I send them my slide show I made about factory farms!
- I don't mean to judge, but I unfortunately think less of meat-eaters. Especially if they know what happens to animals. Yes, I get annoyed when I'm judged. Kind of unfair, I know.
- Um... I'm not sure. I got upset when my best friends kept saying I'm unhealthy by going vegan even though I had researched it thoroughly and told them everything I knew.
thanks :)
Go veggies! Whoop whoop!|||-well i've always loved animals and every time i ate one i just felt horrible about it, so i became a vegetarian (i am a vegetarian not a vegan.)
-i tend to ignore the comments that people say like when they try and tempt me in to eating meat.
-i dont judge meat eaters because it is there decision but i hate hate hate when they try to get me to stop being a vegetarian or say something how animals need to be eaten and should be used for animal cruelty because nobody cares about them. WELL I DO!
-some told me "vegetarians are spawned from the devil, because meat is delicious and needs to be eaten." that hurt me reall reall baddd.]:
[:|||-I'm a vegan because of animals cruelty and I was paranoid that I would get a high cholesterol (even thought I was already a vegetarian and only ate a little dairy and only egg whites. It was kinda silly, but whatever).
-I normally deal with people's comments by giving them an explanation because usually the comments are questions asked rudely.
-I don't like when people judge me because I never judge anyone else.
-Sometimes people say to me "I love animals too! They are delicious!"|||I realized I didn't have to eat an animal for a meal and there were plenty of other good things
I just ignore peoples comments I'm 13 years old I've decided that I don't want to eat meat and I don't give a S**t about what you think about veggies
I don't judge meat eaters and I get very mad when they judge me.
The worst thing someone has done is my bffs little bro offered to make me and my friend popcorn. He has never liked the fact that I don't eat meat. He put pieces of pepperoni in the popcorn. Luckily I didn't eat it. And the worst part is my friend told her mom and she said Oh well he shouldn't have done it but it's nothing to get mad over. And I was like uhh... (thinking to myself) WTF LADY IT'S REALLY RUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
*I was crying my little eyes out*|||well i am a lacto ovo vegetarian, attempting strict vegetarianism. but i did it for the animals sake, but the heath reasons keep me going.
people havent really made a horrible comment twords me yet, but some try to get sassy with me, and i just inform them the best i can. i dont preach, i inform. Friends keep asking if i want to come over because they are grilling out burgers....they are teasing and it does get annoying.
no i dont judge meat eaters, im engaged to one :). yes if someone were to judge me i would hate that.
i work at a restraunt, and my co workers keep threatenig to sneak meat into my veggie sandwich! i hope i never tick them off!|||my father used to slaughter our own chicken,bulls and we had to eat them, i had to control every urge i had to throw my meal in their face and tell them how horrible it was, sometimes id refuse to eat our animals, but it was that or starve. when i was an adult i became aware of the health benefits and went vegan to a year ago, i now also eat free range eggs.
To be honest noones ever made bad comments to me, and ifthey have its never upset me. im usually the first to joke with others so they feel at ease with me, it works well. for example, when buying a pizza, i tell the man to beef it up without the beef, and laugh with them.
i never judge meat eaters, i couldnt care less if they eat meat, as long as they dont cook it in my kitchen, thats my only quirk. i think id have to throw out anything in my house if meat touched it. ick.
noones said anything bad, i get the opposite, im a tactful person, and people r very nice to me, many are interested and are very curious and ask a lot of questions. hOwever the worse thing has been when family come over and think they can bring their bacon with them for dinner.|||-I was in kindergarden, and as soon as i realized that "pork" was pig and "beef" was cow, i just couldn't eat it
-I don't really take it to heart. I'm used to it, having been one since i was very little. If they tell me it's stupid, i just explain and use examples of real facts and statistics.
-I don't really judge meat eaters, because the reast of my family eats meat. But i can't help but be annoyed when people roll their eyes at my eating habits.
-a friend one time told me to try some noodles, and then after i did she laughed and told me it was meat. also, my brother bugs me all the time and loves eating meat very messily..|||-I just never really like meat (exept fish)
-I don't really care what people say. If they ask why I don't eat meat, I just tell them I don't really like it
-My whole family eats meat and they kinda questioned me when I started but now they are cool. I guess it kinda bugs me when people look at me weird when I refuse meat, but I guess I'm just a person that doesn't really care what people think. That's a good way to deal with it:just don't care. You are you and they have to accept that.
-Someone called me a freak but I just shrugged and forgot about it.
=D|||-The animal protein/cancer link made me do it
-When people comment, i tell them that they wouldn't love me half as much if I weren't such a little deviant freak
-I kinda do want to judge non-veggies because they have no idea how they are wrecking their health for a bite of dead flesh, but if I say something, I say it so jokingly that they take it well.
-everyone I know is really nice about it, they just say I am becoming like the "hippie" community I live in|||- well, im pretty sure that you have seen the video "meet your meat" that was more than enough to mske me switch. while it was disturbing to watch, im glad i found it.
- ugh.. dont even get me started on the trolls. i hate them. even if they dont understand us, that doesnt mean that they have to critsize us. my dealing with it is a thumbs down and depending on the comment, sometimes a pissed off mood. lol.
- ok, im going to be honest here. i have judged them before, but i really try not too. i dont say anything, its just hard to block those thoughts sometimes. i realize though, that not too long ago, i was one of them. thats what sickens me the most.
- my mom told a bunch of people that i was a vegitarian even though i wasnt ready to tell people yet. im not mad at her any more though.
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-people think its crazy but theyre crazy for eating all that death, carcusus, milk has puss and blood, meat has adrenaline and hormones.
-no i dont jundge meat eaters its their decision such as i have my own
-they just try to make you eat it, but its my lifestyle and i have to be tough and handle it,and think about it your ganna be heathier|||-i love animals to death and i found out what really happens at the slaughter houses.
-i just blow them off and say screw you
-i hate people who judge me. i dont judge them
-this one person threw meat at me during lunch. it was aweful.|||I know a lot of meat-eater /vegans that just don't eat dairy or any processed foods. Its up to the individual .|||im only vegetarian, more then have of the ppl on here who said they dont judge meat eaters are f*cking liers
Look, people who are vegan generally live longer, and meat is murder that murders. watch this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05zhL1YUd鈥?/a>
the oldest person to ever live in Britain was vegan and we have evolved from an animal which was vegan. our digestive system hasn't changed much since then aswell.
i am a vegan and i live in the UK|||I think that a carefully planned vegan diet is the healthiest diet out there.
Many people don't realize that it's possible to get most of our necessary vitamins and minerals from vegetable sources. Many people believe that the ONLY way to get calcium is from milk, Iron only comes from beef, etc.|||Some vegans don't eat the right foods to get enough vitamins, so they have a vitamin deficiency. If you really do the research, you shouldn't have problems.|||if you were going through the struggle i am, you'd understand
I HATE the stuff i'm eating. I HATE tofu and the like
Who cares if I live longer if i hate eating what used to be the thing i looked forward to so many times in my life
I assure you it's not healthy chewing off my arm, but that's what I feel like. I feel like i could eat a fork.|||Lack of B12 and vitamin D.|||Veganism is the healthiest diet there is. But there are different forms of vegans. Some eat junk food and other food like that because it isn't meat and isn't dairy. Then there are some that strictly eat organic foods that are a healthy replacement for the vitamins that we need in meat and dairy [remember, its the vitamins and protein people need, not the milk and meat itself]. The people who think we are "unhealthy" probably categorize us as the junkfood addicts. They're don't want to believe the fact that vegans and vegetarians are healthier than them (:|||I think that is just a lack of awareness in most cases. I have been vegan for 8 years and have had a healthy vegan pregnancy and I still get people wondering "how I did that". They think that all I can eat is salad and worry that it is unbalanced.
The general population seem to be very uneducated about diet and health and think you need milk and meat to be nourished properly - this is thanks to the advertising campaigns of the dairy and meat industries (ie: if you don't eat dairy you will definitely have crumbling bones by the time your 40 etc)|||Vegetable oil is vegan, many margarines are vegan, lots of sweets (candies) are vegan, fries are vegan, crisps (potato chips) are often vegan... Vegan doesn't equal healthy. It can but not if you eat like an idiot!
The main reason it is considered unhealthy by some people is because those people are ignorant of the range of foods vegans can eat. Like most people they don't know much about nutrition except what they might have been told at school (propaganda, Meat = protein, cheese and dairy = calcium, chicken = 'lean meat', etc...). Many doctors are very patchy on nutrition too, lots of folks I know have had weird responses from doctors, most of whom have only had a little bit of nutritional training.
Its no big deal to get Vitamin D or B12 in Britain or any other developed country, they are added to many vegetarian and vegan foods anyway.
Read up on nutrition, ignore propaganda from anyone who wants to sell you something, especially if they have had to subsidise it to grow it! Live your life, don't preach be a shining example of how its easy and fun :-) I hope thats a useful response.|||I guess it's healthy as long as u get the proper nutrition u need. So, yeah, if u r sure to get all of the essentials from non-animal sources, u don't have 2 worry about saturated fats. It's quite simple, really. If u don't eat fried steak or french fries & other high fat foods like these (and exercise!), u will b less likely to die of heart disease- the leading cause of death in the U.S. IDK what's the leading cause of death in the UK.
However, as far as that video goes, I don't agree at all. We r omnivores and they were comparing us to carnivores. So, u gotta compare apples to apples- NOT apples to oranges! Compare us to swine, poultry, monkeys, or apes. That would b comparing apples to apples.
Personally, I think we evolved as scavengers. Just eating whatever was around- berries, vegetation, and animal carcasses.
Pigs r an excellent example b/c we r so closely related. We feed them mostly soybean meal, corn, and vitamin mineral premixes. So, if the pigs can prosper off of that, we could, too. LOL!
As far as the teeth go, we have molars.. yes. We have k-9s.. yes. Even though they r small, look at the pig and wild boar! Through evolution b/c of tools, our mouths have become smaller... they r actually still getting smaller b/c we use forks and knives. This is y so many ppl r having to get their wisdom teeth removed; We simply don't have room for 'em.
Chimps eat termites and fruit... etc. Some even hunt in packs for smaller monkeys to eat.
"Meat is murder that murders." I understand the 1st part "meat is murder," but not the last part. Could u explain it, please?
BTW, I recently learned that ur body synthesizes vitamin B12 if u get sufficient cobalt in ur diet. It's found in broccoli, spinach, and oats. Yum. Vitamin D is made by ur skin when u spend time (15 min.) in the sun. U'd have to b a vampire to have THAT deficiency.
I guess it takes a lot of work to b a healthy vegan.. more than a healthy non-vegan. The 1st thing I think of is milk. Duh? Of course u can drink soy milk. Every1 isn't a nutritionist.|||A few reasons,
1) Some people hate vegans cause they feel attacked by anyone with differing views, so they make things up.
2) Regular meat eaters find it difficult to comprehend not eating dairy, meat, eggs etc so they pick any flaw in a vegan (skin, weight etc) and blame the veganism.
3) Some vegans are unhealthy. Their hearts are in the right place but they don't vary their diet and miss out on essential supplements. It is a shame because it gives people a bad impression of vegans who in general are perfectly healthy.
4) Plain ignorance.
ADD: Soy milk cotains both B12 and D2. (see what I mean about ignorance)|||People think vegans will lack protein but meat isn't the only source of protein.|||It mainly has to do with B12 deficiency (and, depending on whether or not one knows how to eat the right combination of partial-protein and amino-acid sources, protein deficiency).|||Whether or not meat is murder is a matter of personal opinion, not fact. Though the phrase "meat is murder that murders," is a bit strange. Many animals eat other animals to survive, and humans ARE animals. We can make the choice to not slaughter other animals for food, but the question of whether it's moral for us to do what other meat-eating animals do is a personal decision
I would argue that we most definitely have NOT evolved from vegan animals. Vegetarian, maybe, but assuredly not vegan. But the fact does remain that our bodies ARE designed, right now, to be omnivorous, regardless of what we were designed to eat a few hundred thousand years ago. If we weren't capable of eating meat--i.e. 'meant' to eat it, then nobody would because it'd make us sick or kill us.
For the record, I say all that as a vegetarian. There are plenty of good reasons to eat either a vegetarian or vegan diet without getting diving into the realm of supposed facts for which there is a mountain of contradictory evidence.
Veganism is considered unhealthy by people who eat meat because it's a foreign concept to them. It involves the utter exclusion of what for many people is the primary source of their diet, so they immediately think of the things that meat offers--B vitamins, iron, protein--and the first thing that occurs to them is nutritional deficiency. Vegetarianism is easier to swallow because so many vegetarians continue to eat eggs and dairy products. But since veganism is so much stricter, they don't think beyond the excluded foods, not at first.
At let's face it, veganism, and vegetarianism also but to a lesser extent--CAN be unhealthy if you aren't careful. It requires more consideration and effort to get all the things your body needs, and lord knows it's entirely possible to eat an unhealthy diet as a veg*n. There's plenty of junk food in the world that contains no animal products. So I think that most people just assume that someone getting into a vegan diet is not going to be making any changes to their diet beyond excluding meat, dairy, and eggs. It doesn't occur to them that someone going vegan is (or should, assuming they're intelligent) going to do their homework in order to find out how to eat conscientiously without sacrificing their health.
All they see at first are the excluded foods, not the overall dietary changes.|||Its these non vegetarian people who to justify themselves have started spreading that vegetarianism is not healthy since veg food does not provide all nutrients. Which is absolutely incorrect.
There are plenty of fruits, vegetables and pules that provide all nutrients required to lead a healthy life. Different vegetables have different levels of nutritional values. Therefore, it is very important to have a healthy combination of foods in the vegetarian diet, so as to provide the body with all the essential nutrients.
Now-a-days people are quite conscious of their figure. In such a situation, a vegetarian diet is always preferred over the non-vegetarian diet. A vegetarian diet consists of vegetables which have low level calories and high level of vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants.
In fact, a non-vegetarian diet is not healthy. In the past, many viewed vegetarianism as strange and faddish but appropriately planned vegetarian diets are now recognized by many, including the American Dietetic Association, as being nutritionally adequate, and providing healthful benefits in the prevention and treatment of chronic diseases.
Choosing a nonvegetarian lifestyle has a significant health and medical cost. The total direct medical costs in the United States attributable to meat consumption were estimated to be $30-60 billion a year, based upon the higher prevalence of hypertension, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, gallstones, obesity and food-borne illness among omnivores compared with vegetarians.
A large body of scientific literature suggests that the consumption of a diet of whole grains, legumes, vegetables, nuts, and fruits, with the avoidance of meat and high-fat animal products, along with a regular exercise program is consistently associated with lower blood cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, less obesity and consequently less heart disease, stroke, diabetes, cancer, and mortality.
BEING VEGETARIAN has a host of beefits. Not only you save a poor animal's life, but also led a more healthy life. Ayurveda has also proved that people who eat non-vegetarian food are more aggressive and have high chances of involving in violence. While vegetarian food keeps the balance of body and mind.
Also, you must not only be vegetarian in your diet but also in your lifestyle. You must avoid use of leather and other items in your lifestyle that comes from the life of a poor animl. Check this link for CRUELTY FREE FASHION: http://beautify-flr.blogspot.com/2009/01鈥?/a>|||Vegans are healthy people. Its a matter of your lifestyle, what you eat, how you live, stess factor, exercise routine etc that would determine your health.
vegan diet provides all nutrients to lead a healthy life. You just have to eat a healthy diet. Vegans and vegetarians are the healthiest people alive.
You must have heard of the famous actor Amitabh Bachchan? He is a strict vegetarian, 6 feet 1 inces tall and even at this age (67 years), he is healthy, fit and doing umerous movies, world tours, etc.
Its just people who want to excuse themselves justify their killing of animals by saying that being vegan woul be unhealthy. However it is quite the contrary|||That should be obvious
http://www.crispyontheoutside.com/2009/0鈥?/a>
Its pointless and unhealthy. Then they think its "natural", whats natural about not eating meat? Man is an omnivore, he eats everything. Vegans think its the natural way to live, well people 1000 years ago didnt have vitiman and iron suplements.
And i dont care how much pain a cow of chicken goes through in its life, its going to be killed anyway.
Veganism only became prevelent in the 60's when sexy began to mean thinn. Weight freaks posing as activists for animal rights. What a crock of ****.|||I don't think vegans are stupid. It's their choice whether they want to eat meat or not, and I think we should respect them!|||I don't see a problem with vegans. But I do agree with you that it's not natural, for my food technology course I have to learn about vegetarian and vegans, who mainly seem to eat micro-protein, err hello how is that in anyway natural?|||We are omivores, vegs are full of pesticides and I would rather take my chances eating meat than dying of genetically modified vegs or pesticide contamination!|||People are entiteld to be vegans of they want to be.
Did you know that a field used for cattle that will become MacDonalds burgers, would have enough grain to feed a substantial number of people in the developing world?
Meat is murder|||It's thier choice.|||Maybe if you didn't eat so much meat you wouldn't be so miserable and angry.|||i dont think that we can judge something if we haven't done it, and you can't do it fully unless your doing it for the right reason,s i think those who choose to can, but me personally i could never i love chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream too much, (btw if you didn't know they dont eat anything that didn't come from nature aka dairy..egg..etc...|||me|||Take it easy.|||everyone is entitled to eat what they want but I dont think it no more stupid than not eating pork or cows, feel me.|||Vegans believe that their dietary and lifestyle practices would contribute to healthier world ecology. Vegans can cite many statistics that show that the American meat-centered diet is contributing to environmental problems. The main thrust of vegans鈥?ecological position is that it takes many more resources to produce meat than it does to provide a grain-based diet, and people can be fed better with grain than with meat. For instance, it takes 10 lbs (4.5 kg) of grain to make 1 lb (0.45 kg) of beef. On one acre of land, 20,000 lbs (9,000 kg) of potatoes can be grown compared to 125 lbs (57 kg) of beef during the same time. Environmental problems caused by the inefficient production of livestock include topsoil loss, water shortages and contamination, deforestation, toxic waste, and air pollution. Veganism can be better understood by considering the ethical, ecological, and health reasons that motivate vegans. Vegan diets are often recommended as dietary therapy for heart disease, high cholesterol, diabetes, strokes, cancer, obesity, arthritis, allergies, asthma, environmental illness, hypertension, gout, gallstones, kidney stones, ulcers, colitis, digestive disorders, premenstrual syndrome, anxiety, and depression. At present, however, no studies exist that define the efficacy of vegan diets in treating these conditions. Nevertheless, a well-designed vegan diet is an effective weight-loss diet, and is an economical and easy preventive health practice.|||i dont think its pointless and unhealthy. some people just dont want to eat cows and calves and pigs ect. and eating vegetables and fruit and other non-meat products are more healthy then sucking down all the fat from pork and bacon|||I am a meat eater because that is what i chose to eat. I think it is your choice what u like to put into your body because it is yours to take care of. They eat Soy and tofu to replace the protein in meat. I worked with a "leave eater": that is what i like ot call them lol. The only thing that drives me nuts about people that have different diets is that they disrupt a picnic or Barbecue because they can not eat the same things. But like i said it is their bodies and u have to respect their choices.
I think u are right about it being some kind of stand against eating animals because the person i mentioned kept saying that she would not eat an animal because she was going to save its life by not eating it. She was always making a point of it and and looking at us like there was something wrong with us.|||i cant really c the point in it but everyone has a choice....myself i hardly ever eat meat but dont call myself vegan i just dont like the tase of most of it and im sure that no meat at all is not good for u really no matter wot u eat to substitute it there is nothing better than the real thing|||It is not stupid, SOME PEOPLE SUFFERS FROM A DISEASE or SICKNESS CALLED LUPUS.... IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A LUPUS IS.....Google it.
Other than that, TO EACH THEIR OWN. =)
FYI, I EAT MEAT, VEGGIES, POULTRY and JUST DON'T MAKE ME EAT CATFISH! lol
EWWWW...|||It's personal preference isn't it? I personally don't eat red meat because I simply don't like it (but I will eat poultry).
Some people think it's wrong to eat a living creature, that's their choice, doesn't make it right or wrong, it just means they don't get to enjoy a big fat roast chicken!|||I don't think you wanted to ask a question, you just wanted to go on a tirade. You are wrong about the protein. Ask any doctor, they will tell you protein in soy is more than enough. In fact, a lot of things you said were pretty far off base, but it doesn't seem like you are going to be receptive of info. You just want to be pissed off. Good luck on the whole growing up and chilling out thing. You might find when you stop being so invested in your feelings of what others don't eat you'll be less angry?|||What a nasty thing to say about cows and chickens , I don't want my chicken (Henrietta) to be in pain she is lovely, I hope you are going to say sorry to her and tell her you didn't really mean it?? She is really upset now!/|||I agree, but for different reasons.|||I do think its unhealthy.
I do believe its their choice.
I do have canine teeth and I do believe they are for tearing flesh.|||I won't say it is stupid but I do think it is an unwise choice of diet. You are correct, humans are omnivores, we need nutrients from meat and dairy products to stay alive and healthy and supplements are not as effective as natural sources of nutrients. Also the animals that are bred for food would not be able to cope in the wild, so if we all stopped eating meat and dairy products these animals would all have to be killed anyway!
If its medical then you have no choice, and I feel for you. If you genuinely don't like meat and dairy products fair enough, its the self righteous vegans (and vegetarians) that annoy me!|||Just a thought-it's not natural for animals to be pumped full of anti biotics and growth hormones, which we then in turn will eat when we eat meat. It's natural to eat what you want, not to tell other people what to eat.|||count me out|||May be stupid, what to me?|||it's their choice...
think....
you died because of vegetable is cool
but you died because of meat is cooler...|||don't know if its stupid very annoying to all us meat eaters ,bet if if it was a choice of eating meat and nothing else survival would kick in but free choice and all that wonder if they ever enjoy a meal ..daughter a veggie and dinning out is a nightmare lucky if you get one choice on menu but sometimes enjoy veggie pizza and burgers ..and nut roast WATS that about ..dry roasted nuts ..what about the ones who do Atkins diet ...|||theres a saying whats food for one is poison for another, so you go ahead and eat non veg but let the vegetarians eat what they want to its all a matter of choice and i think we should respect that,and i think some people have turned to veg after mad cow disease and bird flu, and yes life is a circle birth and death is for all .proteins and vitimans are found more in veg and pulses than meat, meat contains a lot of fat amd protiens and people like blood pressure patients and heart problems usually change their diet, so dont look down on veg may be some day you might just have to eat it|||HUMANS ARENT OMNIVORES. YOU DONT HAVE FANGS LIKE A FLESH EATER.CANINE TEETH ARE NOT FANGS.1000 YRS AGO THE LIFE EXSPECTANCY WAS 25 -35 YRS OLD.1000 YRS AGO HUMANS DIED OF ALL KINDS OF FUNKY DISEASES INCLUDING POOR NUTRITION. SORRY YOU HAVE AN EATTING DISORDER AND HATE THIN HEALTHY PEOPLE BUT THAT NEGATIVITY IS NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU ANY SEXIER WITH THE LADIES..EAT A CARROT!|||yes it is stupid. i could not live without BEEF JERKY. it is the most delicious food known to man. and also the manliest food known to man. i LOVE it. i feel sick when i don't eat meat for a long time. i go without meat sometimes because i am poor. but when payday rolls around, i buy some steaks and JERKY, BABY!!!!
mmmmmmmmmmmm, jerky, aaaaaallllggghh.|||It is a matter of respect. I respect your beliefs, so why dont you respect theirs. I used to be a vegan, not through choise but I just couldnt stand handling meat or animal products. In saying that I am naturally pale and that is to do with menalin in the skin and not just fats. Menalin reacts with light to give colour on the skin as a protection from the damaging rays of the sun. There are vegan suppliments that someone can take so there isnt really a risk of malnutricion. If you think of a food you dont like then ask yourself why. That is the same for some people, either they dont like the taste of texture, sometimes even the smell alone can put anyone off something for life. Even association can affect someones eating habits. I dont eat coleslaw because it reminds me of morning sickness, a bad experience can stay with you for a long time.
Veganism has been around for a long time before the '60s but not so widely known. If you look at some religions the have fasts witch where you cant eat certain foods.|||They can do what they want, I'm no one to judge.
Without sushi I'd die though. A long, horrible, painful sushi deprived death.
I am a vegan, but I would like to know is what make the pigs who eat meat think that they are stronger than us , because some of thje smartest people in the world are vegen or vegatarian(albert einstein) And show me proof of why you think we are " insane" when most of you people saying that are the people with no jobs and your fat!|||The reason most meat eaters get offended is because many Veg*ns act like they are better than meat eaters.
Also, the meat eaters know that being a Veg*n is very hard and they could never do it, so they mock those who can.
Also, they have an inferiority complex. They delude themselves into thinking animals don't matter to get rid of the guilt that is associated with animal slaughter.
Not to mention, people have been eating meat for so long, that it is too commonplace for people to really think about anymore. I guarantee, if people had to kill their own food, most people would be Veg*n now days.|||well i have a job im not fat im really healthy in fact i could brobably pick up your malnurished butt 6 feet off the ground|||i like your idea.|||hun i eat meat and i am not a pig bu it is part of life it is like the fish who eats a fish who eats a fishget it|||I am a vegetarian and do not think I am smarter than omnivores, nor have I found omnivores to feel that they are smarter than me!|||I eat meat, I'm skinny, School is my job, and i could care less that you don't eat meat...|||I don't know, maybe it's because your judging people based on their beliefs. If you don't want to be judged based on what your beliefs are, then don't criticize others for how they choose to live their life.
I get sick of people who have different practices having this "holier than thou" attitude. I really don't think there is a justifiable answer to your question since it its extremely biased and one-sided.
I personally admire veganism and vegetarianism for its wholesomeness and purity, but I do not admire some people who practice it, thinking only their way is right, so I am torn on my opinion.|||Wow, that was pretty hateful and stereotypical. You are entitled to eat whatever you choose, as am I. I don't consider myself nor my family pigs for consuming meats.
I think that you maybe insane for your ridiculous rant and slanderous remarks. There are much better ways to pass on your beliefs rather than "bash" someone who lives differently than yourself.|||I am a full time student and have a job, I am physically fit, while I have friends that are vegans and vegetarians I do eat meat. I do not consider myself a pig and I do not consider my vegan or vegetarian friends insane. If you do not espouse your views in such a strong way and you stop putting people down for what they chose to put in their bodies then maybe they would stop calling you names.
Even Gandhi ate meat...he believed that if all Indians ate meat then the world would stop taking advantage of them because they would become stronger.|||amen! i'm a vegan, and my doctor says i'm very healthy. People give me junk about it all the time, you just gotta learn to ignore it.|||Maybe the meat eaters dont like you because you call us insane unemployed fat pigs. I dont truly care what you eat so there.|||You aren't proving your point. First you say that we think we are stronger than you but your counterpoint is that you know some vegetarians who are smart. There is a hell of a difference in strength and smarts. And by the way, whether someone eats meat does not make them a genius.|||People who eat meat arent pigs and vegans/vegetarians arent dumb. You think they're talking bad about you but read what you just typed and you sound just like them.|||i'm fit, healthy and excell at school, meat has Vital protiens and minerals for growth.
how can one NOT eat meat?
do you know how many animals die during the wheat harvest season? countless numbers of mice, ferrets and rabbits.
don't you think that you kill plants when you eat it? and guess what..."For every animal you don't eat, i'm going to eat three"
~Maddox|||Wow, as a vegan myself, I am quite disturbed by your comments. I can see why people would find you insane and you obviously aren't one of the smart vegans. Honestly, attacking people for their life choices is not only ignorant but completely detrimental to your cause.
If the entire world was vegetarian we would have more problems feeding people and a greater oil crisis than we do now. What you should be crusading for is humane treatment of animals.
I have a question as well:
If you are such a friend to animals, why would you use the term "pig" as an insult? Surely you must know that pigs are one of the smartest animals, as well as one of the cleanest.|||First, I don't appreciate the hostility. Even if some idiots have been hostile to you, I guarantee you that everyone who eats meat here would not be so.
Second, I don't think intelligence has anything to do with whether or not you eat meat. A lot of the most brilliant minds in the world are NOT vegetarian, as well.
Third, the premise that a vegetarian diet is so much healthier isn't entirely accurate, although it is certainly not entirely wrong. You are not healthier because you don't eat meat. You are healthier because you eat so many good fruits and vegetables. You could eat a "vegetarian" (no meat) diet that consists of nothing but pasta, peanut butter, and candy, and you certainly wouldn't be healthier for not eating meat.
Fourth, I have no problems with anyone choosing a vegetarian or a vegan diet. I especially respect this decision when it is made for the purpose of maintaining a healthy diet. I can even respect these diets when the individual wants to be respectful of all life, and does not want another animal's death on his conscience. However, I have a real problem when someone calls me a murderer for eating chicken.
Finally, the no job and fat comment was just rude.
God bless.|||Wow....lots of pent up anger there, huh? I'm guessing you're pretty young, so just a word of advice: Learn now not to get so worked up over something so trivial. Your blood pressure will thank you when you're older. What do you care what anyone else thinks, anyway? You don't eat meat. I do. Does it really matter?
I certainly don't appreciate the name calling, especially since you can't spell or put together a proper sentence.|||stop being critical. i'm a vegetarian, but i absolutely hate american vegetarians.|||As much as ur question is biased, it is true on one side. I'm a vegetarian & many ppl think they're "stronger" than me & that I'm krazy for not consuming dead things. Might as well eat my arm...isn't that meat too?|||I don't know why meat eaters are threatened by us. I don't know why they come to our site and talk their uneducated nonsense. I think that the meat eaters who come to this area of yahoo answers are very curious by us and deep inside want to learn how to become non meat eaters...otherwise, why are they here?
Dont you think veganism is extreme because they dont eat eggs, cheese or drink milk?
Afterall eggs, milk and cheese have nothing to do with cruelty to animals right?
what do you think?|||VEGANS ----- comes under the phiposphy of living 100% with out animal products. hence they do not take any thing that have used animals milk.
VEGETARIANS------- they do not eat meat or eggs but do take milk.
Eggterians they take eggs also bout no meat.
all the three has nothing do with cruelity---there are some other reasons also.
it is more a matter of faith--people think the milk is for the offsprings of the animals----by drawing the mother milk out you leave no milk for those children (CALVES)and hence her love and affection for them. in case of eggs --chickens give eggs daily if thet hatch them then more chicken will be there and when you eat eggs your eating them when you fry an agg, you are frying a chicken baby . all birds ley eggs--if you do not eat them --there will be more birds.|||A true Vegan is one that does NOT USE ANY animal product at all. Eggs are the embryo, as for milk and cheese, some could debate that it has to do with how the milk is extracted from tand how the animal is kept on the dairy farm that is cruel .|||I think you should research a little more because dairy farms are quite cruel to the cows and chicken farms for eggs are just as bad.|||I still have yet to meet a healthy looking vegan and vegetarian, especially one that doesn't fall over if you push them with your fingertips.|||No, not extreme. Just different. Quite close to veggie.|||I don't reckon it's extreme; it's just another diet or lifestyle or whatever, usually chosen either for health reasons or animal welfare reasons.
Also, eggs, milk and cheese have a lot to do with cruelty to animals in today's world, because the desire for efficiency has made intensive farming the done thing; cows are impregnated forcibly year upon year to keep the milk coming until their bodies wear out, among other things (for example, impregnation equals babies, and what happens to the babies?) and chickens are kept in very poor conditions and so forth, and on it goes. There are lots of online resources and books that give information on the subject, both from a farming perspective and an animal welfare viewpoint. It's best to obtain the information from more factual, neutral sources, because otherwise there is an obvious bias for one side or the other. If you research a little into veganism you should find out some stuff. It's not much good me writing it here, because I'm a vegan for ethical reasons, and therefore anything I say will most likely sound preachy or biased or whathaveyou.
(Also, in regard to another person's response, I am a vegan, and I don't fall over when people tap me; I wouldn't say I was overly healthy (just stocky I'm afraid!), but, all the same, not all vegans are skinny or weak as that statement implies. I'm not trying to be argumentative though! :-D)
And in addition to that there are some people who simply believe that using an animal in any sense is exploitation - I'm not saying that this is good or bad, but simply that it is the case for some people - and therefore they do not eat any animal products - meat, cheese, milk, eggs, etc. - or wear any animal products - leather, fur, wool - or ride horses, or attend circuses where animals are in use, or fish, or visit pet shops, and so on and on.|||VEGANS---- real.
VEGETARIANS---- lying to themselves.|||Veganism is not extreme. Some people believe that animals should have the same rights as humans, therefore their products shouldn't be used for our consumption and benefit. Some eggs are related to animal cruelty, such as battery chickens. The chickens are kept in tiny enclosures where they are only able to move their heads. They are kept in rooms with no sunlight and are fed chemicals to 'enhance' the size of the eggs. These chemicals not only effect the chickens, but us as well. Here's an image for you:
http://aucklandanimalaction.org.nz/2/ima鈥?/a>
Cows are also kept in enclosures very similar to the chicken enclosures, where they are also fed chemicals.
Heres an image:
http://www.jennifermackenzie.co.uk/2005/鈥?/a>
I am just a vegetarian, but we buy organic free range eggs and organic milk, where animals are treated with respect and aren't fed chemicals, or kept in tiny cages.
I hope you now realise that cruelty to animals is VERY closely linked to dairy products and eggs.
If you are thinking of becoming vegetarian/vegan make sure you take supplements (not derived from animals) to ensure you have the right nutrients. Otherwise you are looking at ALOT of spinach.
For more information you can go to:
http://www.peta2.com/
because i do!!|||based on the numerous medical studies that I have read on that topic when the omnivor and vegan have diets of equal caloric value the difference between them is negligible.|||There's no doubt that it's healthier, but I've got to have my meat. Sorry.|||anything in moderation- except maybe arsenic.
I am a vegetarian. I feel the really bad food is fried , trans fats, artificial sweeteners, preservatives, and refined foods- white sugar, white flour.|||Only if you're eating the right foods to substatute for the protein that is missing in your diet. Generally, it is healthier, but I like my meat wayy too much.|||Meat is disgusting. I think that veganism is better for yourself and the animals.
I am vegetarian and working to become vegan.|||Strict vegan diets tend to be missing some essential amino acids because they are rare or totally absent in vegetable sources. It is SO much easier to get the nutrients you need if you eat just a little bit of cheese or eggs. Like maybe one egg a week and one ounce of cheese will do it, and will have no bad effects on your health.
If you are an ethical vegetarian, then you shouldn't worry about eggs and cheese: You can buy free-range chicken eggs and cheese from a local goat farm where they treat the animals well. Chickens lay lots of infertile eggs that we might as well eat, and goats usually line up to be milked when they are full.
i've been a complete vegetarian for almost 2 years.
i really want to be a vegan, but my parents don't want me to. they say it's unhealthy.
i feel it's right for me,but i don't really know where to start.
any tips?|||Vegetarians are okay. Vegans scare me more than Christians.|||eat losts of protein vitamins and calcium and things like that, drink soy milk as well. if you dont, you will be very very sick for the first while. Vegaterianism isnt wrong or unhealthy, you just have to do it the right way. remember to get all the vitamins and minerals you would normally get with meat and other things like that|||go to vegan wolf www.veganwolf.com this is a fabulous website and will give you a lot of information. Also stock up on some staples that will give you the ability to make up tasty vegan meals - all of the information is at vegan wolf|||Be a vegan just remember to eat your vitamin b complex pills. Dont get the gelatin pills, they are made from animal bones!|||Your parents are right. Veganism is unhealthy, and very unnatural for humans. Humans evolved as meat-eaters and require animal foods for proper nutrition. Keep eating your eggs and dairy and avoid soy - it is poison.
Contrary to dietary fads, your body needs fat and cholesterol to properly function.|||Actually, being vegan is very healthy for you since youre cutting out meat which contains a lot of fat.
Here's some tips:
~Make sure you get your protein. Eat pleanty of cheese, cottage cheese, nuts, and peanut butter.
~Make sure to eat raw fuits and vegetables, not canned or cooked, to make sure you get your minerals.
~Drink plenty of water.
~Try taking some vitamins too if you feel like you're not getting enough in your meals.
~Stay away from other high calorie high fat foods.
I hope this helped.
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http://www.caringconsumer.com/pdfs/compa…
Or frequent zoos, rodeos, circuses, or other places where animals are held in captivity or forced to perform.|||Well I've been a vegetarian for pretty much all my life.
If you feel that it's right for you however, don't let people get in your way.
When I first realized chicken was in fact that adorable little bird running around, nothing could stop me. Though people tried, as simalrly they said it was unhealthy, but nothing could stop me.
Now before you go all in, think about it. Is it actually what you want more than anything else?
What is the actual reason you're doing it?
Is it because you want to be healthier or thinner?
Or is it because you can't stand the fact of those animals being cooped up all their lives just so we can eat something?
Or maybe something else?
It's quite a commitment and you need to be all in.
If you are then good for you!
I wish I could be, but I don't have that kind of self-discipline. :P
Now, as for people telling you not to, try to convince them that it really can be healthy.
Since they clearly care about you, I'm sure they won't mind taking an extra trip to the store so you can have all of the food you need to stay healthy.
Also, don't go all at in at once. Maybe say, instead of eating eggs this morning I'll have cereal. Or instead of drinking milk I'll just have a glass of water. Don't try to convert yourself all at once, you'll get there gradually.
Now, I would try to help you out a little more, but this answer is already CRAZY long. If you want a little more info you can message me and I'll help you out as best I can.
Best of luck!|||dont eat meat|||Being vegan, if done cautiously, is very healthy. Check out this site:
http://goveg.com/|||Feel free to show this to your parents:
The American Dietetic Association, one of the leading nutrition experts in the country, states: "Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence."
http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada…
In terms of where to start, you can incorporate some dairy substitutes into your meals and recipes - soymilk, vegan butter, soy yogurt, vegan cheese, etc. Here's a list of some dairy alternatives (as well as vegan fake meats): http://www.vegcooking.com/guide-favs.asp
For eggs, EnerG Egg Replacer is great for baking and scrambled tofu serves as a kind of scrambled egg replacement. Here is a vegan breakfast scramble: http://www.chooseveg.com/display_recipe.…
Good luck!|||Hi.
I am a vegetarian....and about the whole "vegan" thing, my mom feels the same way! She is a vegetarian too!
I know some good websites for you though:
~ goveg.com
~ vegsource.com (it might be .org...but pretty sure it is .com....my mom usedthis one)
~ veganoutreach.org (it might be .com)
~peta.org
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Those are some of the websites I use, besides vegsource.com.........I am researching veganinsm before i turn into one.
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I know a good shampoo from Target..they don't test on animals, but i don't know if it is vegan. I use it and I love it.
The company is called ORGANIX.
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Good luck!!!=]
I hope I helped!!!!!!!|||I would recommend people being vegans. If you really want to do it you should point out to your parents that although it seems unhealthy you can get you protein elsewhere. Nuts are a source of protein such as peanuts and walnuts, also beans, peas, lentils, and peanuts. Tofu is also tasty, it just depends on the way it is served and how, try miso soup or fried tofu with soy sause also a great vegan dish. Heres a website sure to help. http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/health.html|||Start finding vegan replacements for your consumables (body wash, shampoo, make up, cleaning products, cleansers, etc.)
By "complete vegetarian" do you actually mean strict vegetarian, where you've been following a vegan diet already? Or are you loosely referring to lacto-ovo vegetarianism? I'm not sure what "complete" vegetarians are. I imagine they'd follow a total plant based (vegan) diet, considering no vegetarian will eat meat at minimum. That's a given.|||a lot of this depends on how old you are. If you are old enough to buy your own food, then you can have more control over what you do. Ultimately, though, your parents set the rules for your house, so if they require you to eat some eggs/dairy as one of their house rules, and you can't convince them otherwise, you're stuck with it. Just start eliminating non-vegan products from the meals you do have control over. Maybe volunteer to cook a few meals a week for the family, and make them vegan. Then, when you move out of your parents home you can do what you believe is right for you.|||I've been in the same position before. I decided to wait til i didn't have to rely on my parents for food. At that point I adopted a vegan diet, slowly but surely. Start by eliminating one main vegetarian product at a time; like cut out milk and adopted an alternative to it, for a few months and then cut out eggs, butter or cheese, and adjust. I'd also highly recommended some sort of supplimentation like vitamins. Search out for gelatin free multivitamins directed towards vegans and vegetarians. They aren't that expensive at all. specifically try to suppliment: omega-3's vitamin b12 and calcium.
Oh yes,
Good Luck.|||Why? Think beef, chicken, fish....|||no meat, no honey, no eggs, no milk products, no leather, no silk,
wait! no meat - excellent, that's more meat for me. And more eggs and more cheese. Oh Mac "n" Cheese, pepperoni pizza, Denver Omelets!
Yes, Yes Yes, thank you animals for your sacrifice, the worms and maggots will enjoy me when I am dead and I don't care.|||Have a nice big Juicy T-bone steak! lol|||dont do it.|||Listen to your parents.|||Wtf is a vagen isnt the same thing as vegaterian, who cares anyway eat some meat!!!|||Eat lots of beans or something to get proteins and amino's.
You need fish to survive, we don't torture fish. We just kill em. Nice and easy.
hi, im just curious about veganism. specifically: what's the point? i understand that vegetarians are opposed to the way animals are treated and or killed. but with vegans why be opposed to ALL things from animals? like milk and cheese? how does that hurt animals?|||This is a very indepth topic, vegans I know are spiritual. Cows are sacred, garlic, onions and mushrooms are foods of ignorance. Vegans who are spiritual eat to please Krishna (God). All animals have souls and are not to be eaten.
Vegetables offered to Krishna are acceptable because once offered they may be eaten by servants of Krishna.
Not all vegans are spiritual and I am sure they have very good reasons for their chosen lifestyle.
Plus it is a very healthy diet, the additives in food are killing most of the world's population.|||The point is good health. Humans are naturally vegie dudes and dudettes. We don't have fangs, we have long intestines, etc. During the ice age humans took to hunting and eating meat because otherwise they would starve. The ones who could tolerate meat the best survived, and the practice continues. Back then, people only lived twenty to thirty years, so the bad effects of meat [heart attacks, stroke, etc.] were not seen. Now it's different. PETA are a bunch of maniacs in my view. This isn't a political issue to me. Simply good health.|||To be healthy in spirit and body, many maintain veganism. I think if you go to a health food store where you know that the products are more health conscious that it would probably be just as healthy to be a vegetarian. But, my body doesn't do well with meat anyway, so I am a seafood/vegetarian. I eat only seafood and vegetables and fruits. Although I do like my eggs, I get them from the chicken farm down the street from me and I live in the northern part of a large city.|||I think they don't like how the animals are enslaved to make milk, since they are forced to give milk or die. They think it is the same thing as slavery.|||I'll NEVER understand it. Every time i eat meat i think "wow vegetarians are retarded". its the best ever. animals were made to be eaten. go for it!|||I could never be a vegan. I do not believe in the senseless slaughter of millions of innocent plants for food.|||in some cases it does hurt the cows, they keep them lactating for long periods of time and some of the udders get swollen, pusy, and bloody. and that gets into the milk, chocolate, and strawberry milk have the higher amount of blood in it.
not all milk is done that way, there are places where that does not happen.
but with cheese it sometimes have a enzyme in it called rennet, and that is from the cow.
but there is cheese that is made "rennet free" and it is done without it.|||Vegans don't eat or use any animal products. Concerning dairy and eggs, like someone said before, cows are given steroids so they can produce lots of milk and their udders become over enlarged which can be very painful for them. Technically milk is only for cows calfs and not for us, like humans only give their babies their own milk. Lots of time cows live in their own filth. This includes chickens who lay eggs who also live in horrible conditions. Vegans won't wear leather or silk b/c a living thing dies in the process. Even things like wool, sheep are mistreated. Some vegans, yes, do it for health benefits, but many of them just have a great respect for earths creatures.|||I think it"s partly for health reasons and just to be different! How could the Vegans harm all those plants like that it"s hideous!!!|||Some do it for health reasons.|||it's illegal to say something bad about beef in my state. sure wish i could share some things on this topic.|||vegetarians do not eat anything animal related and most do not wear anything animal related or use any products which are tested on animals. they do not believe in the use of them for selfish gain when people can survive without. think about this, it takes 30 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef. and i believe it is about 30 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. these resources can go directly into helping starving people around the world.
vegans i believe tend to avoid meat more for health reasons, but probably agree with many aspects of full fledged vegetarians.|||It is totally hard. I have seen so many try it but can never stay the course.|||Vegan is great. It helps environment, health, cruelty, poverty, and many more|||Someone said:
'The point is good health. Humans are naturally vegie dudes and dudettes. We don't have fangs, we have long intestines, etc. During the ice age humans took to hunting and eating meat because otherwise they would starve. The ones who could tolerate meat the best survived, and the practice continues. Back then, people only lived twenty to thirty years, so the bad effects of meat [heart attacks, stroke, etc.] were not seen.'
A humans digestive system is more like a dog's than any herbivorous animal's, humans are naturally omnivorous, not veggie, we naturally eat meat and plants. We do have fangs, we call them canines, they are just smaller versions of the canines dogs have and serve the purpose of ripping meat. Eating meat does not cause heart attacks or strokes; true, it does contain saturated fat but if you have a healthy active lifestyle that's not at all a problem. The human body needs large amounts of different proteins. Not all the proteins we need can be found in plants, which contain different proteins (that's not to say those proteins aren't needed). Dairy products and eggs provide a good source of the proteins that you get in meat, but vegans don't have any way to get those proteins apart from supplements. Even with supplements the body is better adapted to get those proteins from meat.
Hi! I am trying to learn more about the vegan lifestyle. I want to see my body/mind at its full potential and would like to completly change my life and attitude torwards food.
I have been vegetarian in the past but only for 6 months(give or take), I did not lastdue to impulsive last minute cravings or not having the resources/support around me(i live in a rurual area) I absoultely love soy and vegetables and have a garden of my own...it's really a question of will power!!
So, I am looking for tips,ideas,love, support, and inspiring stories from the vegetarian /vegan community on how to make the transition and maybe on how YOU made the jump.
love and gratitude <3|||If you don't have a vegetarian/vegan community around you for encouragement, try subscribing to Vegetarian Times, and some of the on-line newsletters about vegan/vegetarianism. That will give you a community of supportive people, and give you news, recipes, ideas, and topics to consider.
Also, if you have a health food store reasonably nearby, get to know the proprietors. Many times these stores will have classes, or networks of people who share your ideas, that you didn't even know were there!
You might make some contacts at your local farmer's market, or Community Supported Agriculture group if you have one, also.
Good luck !|||You are already ahead of the game by just considering making the change. Im 26 and I've never had meat...EVER!! I ate fish up until '91 then I stopped. No meds.. Never took an tylenol.. all natural.. you can do it. You just have to have the will power and dont be afraid to spend a little money for some better food. Experiment. Where do you live?|||I live in boulder,co therefore I know about this. first off don't listen to people who say you aren't being nourished properly. the vitamins you will miss are easy to get, you need vitamin d and don't take in a supplement d-3 because it is from an animal source, be sure any supplements you take are not in gelatin capsules, you can get vitamin d from the sunlight anyway so get 10-20 minutes of light a day(preferably not direct 10-2pm sun) also you need iodine which most people get from salt you can also get from seaweed or anything from the ocean mostly. as far as baking you can buy a vegan egg substitute or use tofu,applesauce,banana or soda to fluff up your food. be sure to watch out for oils alot of things will have animal fats mixed in. check out vegan products, don't use white-out or lanolin. you can find a ton of things thru googling "vegan"|||I became a lacto ovo vegetarian 6 months ago. Everyone has their own reasons why they become a vegetarian or vegan. I started for health reasons. I was over weight and knowing that a vegetarian lifestyle is healthier I tried it out. I haven't missed or craved anything so far. Every time I think that I might be missing out by not eating meat, I think about where it comes from. There are so many alternatives to meat that I have made some pretty good meals, and have fooled my family with them. Anyway, that's my short story. GOOD LUCK!!!!!
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. ~Albert Einstein|||Proteins: Body's protein needs can be provided by either animal or plant sources. Mixed protein diet obtained from various plant sources is better than animal protein and is recommended in diabetes, renal diseases and liver diseases. Mixed protein diet from different plant sources has been the pattern of diet in India for all vegetarians.
Carbohydrates: Carbohydrates are mainly found in plant foods; like cereals, grains, fresh and dry fruits, legumes, vegetable, greens, nuts etc. plant carbohydrates include' large amounts of starches, sugar and fibers which are important for gut functions. The body is better suited to a high carbohydrate diet than a low carbohydrate diet. In fact 55% of the food intake should be carbohydrate. All animal products do not contain carbohydrate which is essential for body.
Fat: Plant fats differ from animal fats in two different ways 1) they are cholesterol free 2) they generally contain more polyunsaturated fat and less saturated fats. Plant fats usually have higher polyunsaturated fat value than animal fats.
A diet which is low in cholesterol and which contains fat of a high PIS value is associated with a lower incident of coronary health disease.
Vitamins and Minerals: plant foods are rich in many vitamins and minerals.
Vitamin D: Vitamin D is obtained by exposure of skin to sun light and this is not a problem in India.
Calcium: The vegetarians can meet their needs for calcium from dairy products. Riboflavin (Vitamin B2) Dark green vegetables are good sources of Riboflavin as are legumes and whole grain cereal.
Iron: The problem of iron deficiency is relatively common but vitamin C significantly enhances absorption of iron hence it is advisable for vegetarians to include with each meal a food high in vitamin C which as lime, citrus fruits or juices.
Zinc: Zinc is found in large number of plant foods.
Fiber: Fiber is found only in vegetarian food like whole grain cereals, legumes, greens, fruits, vegetable etc.
Thus in vegetarian foods all requirement of nutrition for body growth and maintenance is fulfilled. One can have a complete and balanced diet provided we take enough food which is as close to nature as possible in maintaining sturdy and disease free body. It is equally helpful in curing many diseases.
ADVANTAGES OF VEGETARIAN DIET:
More & more evidence is surfacing that directly links a prolonged non- vegetarian diet to diseases as cancers, heart diseases, diabetes, asthma just to name a few.
1. LOGEVITY: Vegetarian can expect to live 4-10 years longer then the non-vegetarians.
" Source: Seventh day Adventists study
2. LESS HEART DISEASE: Because of low fat, saturated fat and cholesterol content of the vegetarian diet the risk of heart disease is lowered. High blood cholesterol levels are associated with increased risk of heart disease.
3. LESS CANCER: Up to 40% of all cancers are diet related. Cancer death rates have been associated with obesity and high fat / low fiber diet. Vitamin A & C are thought to be protective against colon cancer. Low fat diets protect against prostrate and breast cancer. Indoles, lignans, isoflavones, protease inhibitors which are present in plant foods and shown to be potent anti carcinogens.
4. LESS BOWEL DISEASE: Diverticular disease and appendicitis occur more frequently with low fiber intake as in meat diet.
5. LEES OBESITY & LESS INCIDENCE OF DIABETES: It is easier to plan a low fat diet for a vegetarian then for a meat eater. The fiber in plant food dilutes the energy & provides a satisfying meal without all the calories. Diabetes over the age of 40 seems to be related to obesity.
CONLUSION:
When activists like M.K. Gandhi, sports personalities like Martina Novratilova & Carl Lewis, beauties like Brooke Shields & Kate Winslet, physists like Edison, Albert Einstein & A. P. J. Abdul Kalam, religious leaders & mystics like Jesus & Osho can be legendaries in there respective fields taking the advantage of being vegetarian, Is'nt it more prudent on our part to switch over to vegetarianism & enjoy better quality & longevity of life.
Hi! I like these creeds and was wondering and decided to post this up as a topic for Yahoo! Answers and thought to ask several questions for discussion.
There are many varying opinions and everyone is different and there is always another day and today, and keep it under pg-13 to tv16.|||I think veganism and abstinance are interesting. For some people, veganism and/ or abstinance is a way to deprive oneself of earthly pleasures.|||Veganism - Whatever floats your boat is cool, but not for me.
Immortality - Nah not for me either. I don't have a death wish but I don't want to be hanging around for, well, ever!
Friendship - Hard to come by these days, but worth holding on to once found.
Abstinence - Again, whatever floats your boat.
I'm not really sure what you mean by care, sorry. I guess I'm not very strong-opinionated huh? I think whatever you do in your boat is fine as long as it doesn't affect me in my boat. Do whatever makes ya happy without forcing it on others; live and let live! Fun question.
Have a nice day!
I've recently gone Vegan (within the past month) and my mother doesn't approve.
She believes that free-range animals, milk cows, laying hens, etc. are all treated humanely.
Personally, I think it's a lie.
Are they treated better?
Treated "humanely", as in nice living space, fresh grass, etc.??|||“Just because it says free-range does not mean that it is welfare-friendly.”
—Dr. Charles Olentine, editor of Egg Industry magazine, an industry trade journal
As concern grows over the way the meat, egg, and dairy industries treat the animals we eat, so does the number of animal products labeled "free-range." What does this mean? Do "free-range" chickens, pigs, turkeys, and cows receive humane treatment? Are they slaughtered in less violent ways?
"Free-Range" Eggs
There is no inspection system for companies that label their eggs "free-range."
The popular myth that "free-range" egg-laying hens enjoy fresh grass, bask in the sunlight, scratch the earth, sit on their nests, and engage in other natural habits is often just that: a myth. In many commercial "free-range" egg farms, hens are crowded inside windowless sheds with little more than a single, narrow exit leading to an enclosure, too small to accommodate all of the birds at once.
Both battery cage and "free-range" egg hatcheries kill all male chicks shortly after birth. Since male chicks cannot lay eggs and are different breeds than those chickens raised for meat, they are of no use to the egg industry. Standard killing methods, even among "free-range" producers, include grinding male chicks alive or throwing them into trash bags and leaving them to suffocate.
Whether kept in sheds or cages, laying hens-who can naturally live more than ten years-are considered "spent" when they are just one or two years old and their productivity wanes. Rather than being retired, "free range" hens are slaughtered to make room for another shed of birds.
"Free-Range" Broiler Chickens
Birds raised for meat ("broilers") may be considered "free-range" if they have U.S. Department of Agriculture-certified access to the outdoors. No other criteria-environmental quality, the size of the outdoor area, the number of birds confined in a single shed, or the indoor or outdoor space allotted per animal-are considered in applying the label. As with "free-range" laying hens, many "free-range" broilers live in a facility with only one small opening at the end of a large shed, permitting only a few birds to go outside at any given time.
Even Richard Lobb, spokesperson for the National Chicken Council admits, "Even in a free-range type of style of production, you're basically going to find most of them inside the grow out facility…."
According to The Washington Post Magazine, in the case of birds, the term "free-range" "doesn't really tell you anything about the [animal's]…quality of life, nor does it even assure that the animal actually goes outdoors."
Aside from the birds' actual living conditions, there is no prohibition in "free-range" poultry farming against using breeds of chickens and turkeys who have been selectively bred for fast growth and high feed conversion.
In the 1950s, it took 84 days to raise a five-pound chicken. Due to selective breeding and growth-promoting drugs, it now takes only 45 days. Such fast growth causes chickens to suffer from a number of chronic health problems, including leg disorders and heart disease. According to one study, 90 percent of broilers had detectable leg problems, while 26 percent suffered chronic pain as a result of bone disease. Two researchers in The Veterinary Record report, "We consider that birds might have been bred to grow so fast that they are on the verge of structural collapse."Industry journal Feedstuffs reports, "[B]roilers now grow so rapidly that the heart and lungs are not developed well enough to support the remainder of the body, resulting in congestive heart failure and tremendous death losses."
Whether labeled "free-range" or not, if the birds used by agribusiness are the standard "broiler" chicken of today, buying these products involves an enormous amount of animal suffering.
And, as with factory-farmed birds raised for their meat, "free-range" chickens and turkeys may undergo the same grueling and sometimes fatal transport to slaughterhouses when reaching market weight. Workers gather these birds up to four at a time, carrying them upside down by their legs before throwing them into crates on multi-tiered trucks without protection from the heat or cold and without access to food or water. "Free-range" birds end up at the same slaughterhouses as factory-farmed birds, where they are hung upside down, have their throats slit, and bleed to death, often while still fully conscious.
"Free-Range" Cows, Sheep, and Pigs
According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), "free-range" beef, pork, and other non-poultry products are loosely defined as coming from animals who ate grass and lived on a range. No other criteria-such as the size of the range or the amount of space given to each animal-are required before beef, lamb, and pork can be called "free-range." "Free-range" and "free-roaming" facilities are rarely inspected or verified to be in compliance with these two criteria. The USDA relies "upon producer testimonials to support the accuracy of these claims."
Even when "free-range" cows, sheep, and pigs are allowed to live outdoors, they are still subjected to excruciating mutilations without painkiller or analgesic, such as castration, branding, dehorning, tail-docking, and tooth-grinding. Once they are fattened to market weight, they are trucked to slaughterhouses. They are denied food, water, and adequate protection from extreme temperatures once in the vehicles, and many die during the trip. These cows, sheep, and pigs are still slaughtered in the same violent ways as factory-farmed animals: They are pushed through narrow chutes, hung upside down on conveyor belts, and have their throats slit; some are dismembered while still fully conscious.
Is a Truly Free-Range World Possible?
The U.S. animal agribusiness industry currently confines and slaughters more than ten billion land animals each year, the overwhelming majority of whom live intensively confined on factory farms where many cannot even turn around or fully stretch their limbs. Would it be possible to raise ten billion animals without intense confinement? Probably not.
If intense confinement operations were banned, it's highly unlikely producers could supply an entire nation of 280 million meat-, egg-, and dairy consumers with enough animal products to sustain the typical American diet. So, without even considering the ethical problems inherent in raising and slaughtering animals for food, from a practical perspective, completely humane farming and slaughtering methods aren't possible.
The Bottom Line
Granted, living in cramped conditions is better than living in even more cramped conditions. Laying hens who have 67 square inches of space per bird likely suffer less than those who have only 50, and giving even 10 out of 10,000 turkeys access to sunlight and the outdoors is better than denying all of them such basic needs. But, clearly, commercial "free-range" farming is not the answer to ending animal abuse.|||I grew up on a farm. We slaughtered our free range animals in the back yard. I think the way they do the job at a modern processing plant is far more humane, not to mention more sanitary. Its done under Federal inspection.
Frankly animals are generally treated far better by humans than they are treated by other animals. As they say nature is red in tooth and claw, humans are the only ones capable of humane treatment.
"there are insects of prey, reptiles of prey, birds of prey, fishes of prey, quadrupeds of prey. There is no instant of time when one creature is not being devoured by another."|||that all depends on what your beliefs are|||No they are not.
For more information check out http://www.vegan.com and download the two shows that Erik debates Gary Francione. Gary does a great job explaining all of this free-range nonsense that groups like HSUS are pushing.|||It depends. I get my organic free range eggs from someone local. The chickens are quite free and happy.|||i don't have any proof, but i think those animals are all happy, with lots of room to roam and play with each other, and no curfues, they can stay out late and watch the stars and they got air conditened rooms, and they got healthy food and a doctor on staff, and they're not forced to do anything
if a hen don'twant to lay eggs, then she can have the day off
if the cow don't want to be milked, she can go home early and play with her baby cow|||Not all, but possibly some are.
The smaller farms probably do a better job of raising their animals humanely, but you're not going to find their stuff at a Wal-Mart. You'll have better luck finding their products at a farmer's market, possibly at a store like Whole Foods, or through word of mouth.
Just reading the words "free range" doesn't automatically mean that the animals are happy. It pays to learn about the farm and farmer/s. If it's possible, actually visit the farm. See the living conditions of the animals.
(BTW, this is a good idea with fruit and vegetable farms, too!)|||You are right .... Many free range range animals do have better conditions then those in factory farms , there is less cruelty , but to what degree .. aside from very small farms which are practically non existent today ...there are still practices and treatment that is certainly not to benefit the animals and can be cruel ..physically and emotionally .. hens can be considered free range being kept in large rooms..never going outside, they are debeaked because having so many upsets their pecking order and the begin to peck each other causing injuries..so is this for their own good as someone has said here ? or is it because the conditions are so overcrowded that they can only keep a pecking order to about 80 kept in one area ... and then they get confused, frustrated,stressed , upset...they are still prisoners in a big cell.. Just to clarify..very small farms with the 80 or so chickens or more then 80 but kep under better conditions and seperated to groups..never have to be debeaked ..I wonder why since it is really better for them.to have part of the beaks cut off with a sharp blade ....OK .... I am getting sarcastic..sorry...... they are still considered property and not treated as you would your pet or even an animal in nature ... how do you feel about guard dogs...placed on chains , confined and never getting any Love , affection, attention to them..they just have a job to do ? Do you think they suffer at all? Feel bad? Not have the greatest lives ? ..just a comparison but guard dogs have it a lot better then the farm animals .... even free range|||Free range animals are given more space to roam and live in their natural surroundings, instead of penned up and de-beaked in slaughterhouses.
Of course, they are still killed for meat and produce. I'm not sure if you can consider that humane, according to your philosophy.
P.S. I eat meat.|||Every company is different and it's hard to tell what products are the most animal-friendly, although I'm betting that PETA's website can tell you where to find it.
I think dairy products should still be okay for vegans who care about animal rights. For example, if you DON'T milk a cow, that is bad for the cow...so it's more humane to milk it, and you might as well use the milk. Not exactly a groundbreaking reference but it's just an example.|||I am an animal science major and a vegetarian. I used to do it mostly for animal rights reasons, and now I do it mainly because I personally find eating meat gross. Any how, in both large production companies, and small free range companies, the animals aren't necessarily treated as terribly as PETA shows. All chickens are debeaked to prevent them from eating each other. And the term debeaked is misleading. In both large companies and in small free range farms the chickens have the very tip of their beaks cut off at 1 day of age and it really is for their own good. For the most part, any body who invests the time or money into raising animals, even if it is for meat, do not necessarily wish to cause the animals harm. They have some interest in the animals, but farmers need to make a living somehow. They do confine them and stuff many of them in one tiny space, in all animals industries, but thats a matter of saving money.
But free-range does not necessarily mean that the animal is pampered and is living a lovely life. The term free-range refers only to the fact that the birds are not in cages. Sometimes free-range birds are still stuffed into a confined space, many of them at that. If you will only consume animal products if the animals are treated humanely, I recommend seeking out products from small family owned farms. That is your best bet in ensuring the animals are free to roam around on land, and that they have the best possible treatment.
I've been vegetarian for 17 years, and vegan for the last 9 of those years. Woo. :)
鈾櫔Celllllebrate good times, c'mon! 鈾櫔|||i have been vegetarian for 2 1/2 years woot
Could have done it earlier but you know i got into the saying of those meat eater "u cant get essential nutrient from being vegan or vegetarian" and also i USED to love meat, until i watched PETA video and after that i took it seriously not to eat meat anymore.
I tried before but couldn't keep it for long because at school all u get is peanut butter & jelly sandwich and my mother had to work early in the morning so she used to be too tired, nothing i could have done.|||15 years.
Get ready to be flamed, because people don't like when vegetarians are proud. You can celebrate anything else, but people call you smug and self-righteous if you say you're happy about your vegetarianism. *shrug*|||i've been a vegetarian since 20 February 2008. So, about a year and a half. i quit cold-turkey (pun intended), if you were wondering.
:)|||I've been a vegetarian for about 4 months and a vegan for about 3. I haven't been at it too long but I'm glad that I'm Veg*n.|||I have only been Vegan for about 6 months, but now I cannot even imagine being any-other way.
GO VEGAN'S!!!|||Okay I have been vegetarian all my life.
and I've been vegan for about 2 and a half years but it feels like so much longer!|||Ummm about a year. :] a year july, I think.|||Vegetarian almost 16 years. Vegan 73 days.|||Vegetarian since August 2008|||I have been vegan for over 16 years- since April 1993.|||vegetarian 4 years vegan 9 months|||Never have, never will.|||vegan since about 1990 or before...|||vegan for over a year now and never looked back
woo hoo!!! go vegans!!!!!
hm. The term was invented by an English man, Donald Watson in 1944. It was a offshoot of extreme vegetarianism founded in England. They took the first three letters of vegetarian and the last two letters of the same word to make the word "vegan".
Donald Watson quote.."We started with vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion."
Thusly, the Vegan Society was created in 1944.|||i suppose it all started with those anti-meat animal lovers activist...i think Vegan means plants on latin...or maybe greek...
Veganism: the practice of eating neither meat nor other animal products, such as fish, milk and milk products, eggs, and honey|||Absolutely not. I'm not gonna go into a full-on rant because I'm not in the mood for my hands to break.
My life goal is to become a vegan :P|||YES!!!!!!!!|||Yes. It's truly impossible to live a happy life. I know, I tried.|||No. It helps the environment and saves animals.|||No, I think it's dumb/pointless to ridicule other's choices.|||I don't think it's dumb or pointless. I think is requires a high amount of discipline and dedication...something I do not posses.I admire vegans and vegiterians alike because I know I couldn't do it. I need beef, chicken, and fish...and I need the milk, eggs , and honey for my French toast..|||why do you care, its not your life. if a person wants to be vegan, then they should feel free to do so.|||kinda|||OMG YES. they are all stupid and not helping anything. I LOVE MEAT|||No.|||Nah. People should be able to do whatever they want to do. :)|||Yes because they still eat a living thing if they eat a plant. And meat is just too damn good to be able to stop a normal person from eating it.|||i honestly do...but i think some ways that they kill animals is kinda cruel but oh well. i like meat|||Nope, I'm a vegetarian and don't think that my efforts are pointless, so I feel the same way about veganism.|||No, I think it is good and very healthy.
You will live a good, active, and healthy lifestyle.
:)|||No, that's how they choose to live and style their life and habits.
It's a good stand they're making :)
There is no way I could survive it . . . lol|||Its not dumb. I am not a vegan but i can understand why people choose to live that way. The process at which people obtain the milk, eggs, ect gives very horrible conditions to the animals.|||Yes I do think it is dumb, and pointless.. not to mention unhealthy. You would lose that haughty vegan attitude real quick if there was nothing else to eat and you were starving.|||well I see the point of not eating animals, but not eating milk and honey just because they come from animals? That's very...weird.|||In my opinion plants are living so vegans are just murdering them to eat but hey everyone has their own point of view.|||yes|||no, i become one actually...|||it's too extreme.
as if life is not complicated enough.
Which is healthier?|||veganism.... too many added chemicals and hormones in all animal products|||According to USDA, vegetarianism is healthier, because all the nutrients you get from meat can be replaced by other foods, but there are certain nutrients in dairy products that are very difficult to get elsewhere.|||It depends on the type of products (organic, non-hormone treated products, and other chemicals)...
Now this is just my opinion, but I find veganism more restrictive on vitamins and minerals. BUT on the flipside, I see that people who are vegan typically eat more soy products which are good for you with the good proteins.
I think that from an overall nutritional perspective, vegetarianism is healthier. For example, you do not get the nutrients from milk products if you are vegan (if you consume organic, non-hormone treated end-products).
And on the point of taking supplements, you have to be careful of the source. For example, I have found that many calcium supplements do not list the source of the calcium or they come from animals. I ensure to buy ones that only state they are vegan or vegetarian.|||eating to much tofu can be very bad for you, some raw vegan on here put up a link to a site that explained all the bad things about tofu, I don't remember what it was but I wouldn't eat the stuff if I were you.|||I believe veganism is healthier by far. If you want your diet to be completely natural, vegan is the way to go. There is nothing natural about drinking the breastmilk of another species, especially when the animal has been pumped full of hormones and antibiotics and tortured for it.
And for everybody who said vegans are missing something nutritionally, that is not correct. There are tens of thousands of vegans in the US, have you ever heard of someone dying from a protein or B12 deficiency? No. And rest assured, with all the money and lobbying power the meat and dairy industries have, if it happened you would know about it. I am personally acquainted with at least 100 vegans who are VERY healthy and never take supplements.|||honestly.. they're both the same.
true veganism and vegetarianism will go for the fresh product of fruits, veggies.. legumes, tubers.. most of your plants... (even flowers and some spores)
those who claim vegetarians eat certain meats do not know what they are talking about.
and vegans who eat processed foods aren't vegan...
basically it's the same.. all those other terminologies are rather offshoots which lead to the basic fact that:
you eat any processed product and/or animal product or products from animal you're not vegetarian.
simple as that.
also... both if they eat a well balanced diet there's no such thing as a protein scarcity.|||depends on how you do it. i don't think one is better, though.|||uhm they both have there perks. :]
im a vegitarian and tried being a vegan, but i was constintly tired/sickish from lack of protein.
im not frowing upon veganism in anyway though if commeted properly can be very healthy!|||The vegan diet is free from animals hormones, antibiotics and concentrated pesticides that are found in dairy and eggs.
You have made the right choice in being vegan. The vegetarian diet was supposed to mean the same thing as vegan until people that ate animal products stole the word. A "lacto-ovo-vegetarian" diet is an incomplete protest against animal cruelty. Any type of diet can be healthy, but those that include animals products often result in heart disease and cancer even when done so in moderation.
A vegan diet requires thoughtful planning but so does every other diet.
There have been vegan Olympic gold medalists and a vegan woman can create an ENTIRELY NEW,HEALTHY HUMAN BEING INSIDE OF HER. Many of these children stay vegan and grow up to be perfectly healthy adults. So just keep yourself educated about what you eat and don't let anyone tell you that a veg diet is lacking anything essential.
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i really do want to become a vegan BUT i still wish to grow taller i desire to be 5'10" as i am only 5'8" but how will i ever grow any taller while eating in such a way also thinking let us say 10 years ahead of time when im like 25 yrs of age i will become pregnant soooo will my childs health be at all comparable towards the state in which it couldve been had i been committing to the traditional American diet?|||only if you become one of those annoying vegans that constantly chides people that eat meat.|||I'm a nurse and a vegan you will be fine. This is a healthy lifestyle, go for it. This will prolong your life not hinder it. Take care and all the best.|||Vegetarians and Vegans if done right Live longer than most people but you have to do it right .. lots of good info on recipes and all on the web and in your library . Good luck|||If you don't get all 8 of the "essential amino acids", your health will suffer. Meat contains all 8. Veggies contain a variety but you really need to be aware of this.|||You can eat vegan and take supplements also. When you get pregnant you will probably have to add foods you don't usually eat for the childs sake.Other than that I have heard that the vegan diet can be really good for you,but I would wait until you are done growing.It could be really unhealthy for you because you are still a child. You can eat really heathy though until you are old enough to become vegan.
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