Friday, March 9, 2012
I decided to convert to veganism and am going to do it right! I know gelatin is from boiled bones and meat, and some red food dyes come from insects, but I'm not sure about any others.
What are some ingredients, like gelatin and such, that are derived from animals?|||"A few common ingredients found in lots of "seemingly" vegan food.... to look out for include:
* Gelatin (including marshmallows)
* Casein (calcium caseinate) (Found in soy cheese sometimes....)
* Rennet (Also found even in soy cheese sometimes....)
* Whey (a dairy product found in lots of things... breads, margarine...
Also look out for :
* Mayonnaise鈥ost contain egg
* Pasta鈥? Some contain egg"
More at source's website.|||Watch out for animal fats in food you wouldn't suspect they'd be in- like pies, cakes, refried beans, etc. Also, look out for anything that contains renet, which is usually used in making cheese. It's an animal enzyme.|||Whey, and lactose is milk.|||gelatin, casein (cheese), rennet (cheese), animal shortening, animal fat.|||websites that tell you which products have hidden animal products you cannot eat; (taken from the peta2 website: http://www.peta2.com/STUFF/s-eat.asp)
1. Gelatin: protein made by boiling cows鈥?and pigs鈥?skin, tendons, ligaments, and bones. Often used in Jell-O.
2. Lard: animal fat.
3. Pepsin: clotting agent from pigs鈥?stomachs, used in some cheeses and vitamins.
4. Rennet: enzyme taken from baby calves鈥?stomach essed in cheese production.
5. Stearic Acid: fatty substance taken from slaughtered pigs鈥?stomachs used in chocolate and vitamins.
6. Cetyl Palmitate: oil derived from whale鈥檚 sperm.
7. Urea: urine from animals, used to brown baked goods like pretzels.|||http://www.happycow.net/health-animal-in鈥?/a>
i think this list might help you|||be careful of mock caviar, some of them are made from lobster eye balls.
Even the people saying veganism is hard are wrong. If you're a lazy person that doesn't like cooking, veganism will be "hard" because you have to stop being lazy...even still, I have no problem eating out at restaurants that don't cater to vegetarians/vegans, including diners! So this notion that veganism is hard or difficult is from very confused and apparently people so lazy that they won't read a menu.
Veganism is easy and helped me cut my grocery bill by a whopping 66% and has improved my health. I was into bodybuilding as an omnivore, too, but I hold onto my gains longer with veganism!
Easy, inexpensive, healthy...can't ask for more than that!|||Why would you come to a board that is meant to help out vegetarians and vegans asking for arguments against it? Makes no sense.
Btw, to all the people saying its hard - its only as hard as you make it. If you tell yourself its hard, then it will be; if you tell yourself its easy, then it will be easy.
And vegans know that nobody can be 100% vegan; but there's a difference between doing the best you can to reduce animal suffering and help the environment and not doing anything at all.
There are no arguments against veganism. All the "arguments" come from those who are too ignorant to accept that veganism is actually an excellent way of living.|||The most compelling arguments I've heard is that vegan- ism is not sustainable. I do think it's true that's there's not enough vegetation to go around between a world full of vegan homsapiens and herbivore's. The other devil's advocate arguments I've accepted are that consumerists veganism isn't that environmentally friendly. Unless you're growing all your food permaculture style, or eating localvore, fossil fuel is being used to truck your stuff around and you're using just as much packaging as a person on a traditional diet. I'm not sure how long modern veganism would last in a depression since we're depending a lot on convenience. At some point we'd have to consider eggs and dairy. Then there's the argument that you can never truly be vegan unless you're a Buddhist monk or neoludite who is adverse to any form of technology containing the remains of deceased animals. Someone gave me a philosophical argument online that I couldn't refute. The only reason vegans can claim to be on high moral ground is because plants have not been proven to be sentiment. If you could prove otherwise then we'd have to find another reason besides the claim of compassion. As you can see I like a good argument.
I've been a vegan for 7 years but I'm no longer sanctimonious about it.|||There is really only one-it is very hard, if not impossible. I'm not counting spurious arguments like we are made to eat animals because of our wickedly sharp fangs, or harvesting crops kills animals ( what does livestock eat? right, plant crops) or dumb arguments like because meat tastes so good or supplies nutrients unavailable through other foods. That's just ignorance.
But it's not only difficult to avoid all animal byproducts or exploitation, it also takes a great deal of diligence and commitment just to plan your diet. I give big props to those even brave enough to try.|||It's impractical. However, it's hard to weigh practicality against morality.
Also, to an extent it's impossible. In this progressive society many objects are made of animal products. Vegans have to qualify this by saying they aim to minimize their contribution to animal suffering.|||Karina said it best. I have been a vegan for 3 years and it is easy for me. I don't crave cheese. I don't crave milk. I don't crave meat. It is far easier to be a vegan then ever before. They have so many options available so there really is no excuse for not being vegan. I DO see factory farming as a concentration camp for animals. Why is it that some people can make this distinction and others can't? I don't know. People need to think about what they eat. What they wear. Question things. The concept of reducing suffering is one of the reasons I am vegan. Take it as you may.|||The only somewhat valid reasons to not be vegan are ignorance & selfishness.
Regarding too many answers above, it is not difficult to be vegan at all. If you have the mindset that it is something that is difficult to do, then it ultimately will be just like anything. I've been vegan for over ten years & find it extremely easy.|||vegan, vegetarian or omnivore. all personal choices. not a reflection on anyone's character regardless of what anyone thinks. healthy, well balanced eating is what matters and morality and ethics should be at the head of the list. i personally have a problem with killing for sport. to me, that's disgraceful and truly sinful.|||There is no argument to be against a person's diet. You might as well write an essay about how you hate Jews and Kosher diets. It's wrong.
To whine and snivel about what a person eats is pathetic, not to mention vulgar. It's become way too common to actually waste time making excuses for what you eat.|||Veganism is good for the enviroment. Veganism is cruelty free. Vegans have a longer lifespan than meat eaters and experience fewer diseases. Vegan food is healthy! Oh, you wanted arguments AGAINST veganism??? Sorry, I honestly can't think of a single one.. Peace.|||With the exception that it's very hard to do, there really aren't any valid arguments. Besides, any person with the will and dedication could committ to veganism regardless of how hard it is.|||I can't give you one. I'm a vegetarian and so happy. I have never been this healthy in my life! I also dropped 13 pounds in a little over a month! My doctor says I'm in great shape inside and out! So, I have no idea why people still eat meat now-a-days!|||It turns you self righteous and judgmental possibly causing you to alienate friends and family.
But on the plus side you won't need to worry about self esteem issues with the free golden pedestal you get from the Vegan club.|||You need to what? I don't understand your English.
And if you don't want to be a vegan,nobody is forcing you to become one.
Not everybody is ready.|||Being a vegan means you can't eat meat eggs or dairy anymore.
For me, that would absolutely suck.|||Assuming you are looking for *valid* arguments against Veganism, there are none.|||Its no good for lazy people who are not prepared to cook delicious food, they would be setting themselves up to fail.|||There are no arguments against veganism.|||IMO, there's only one valid, scientific argument against veganism: Humans require Vitamin B12 and it is not available in any plant foods.
Today people who choose and can afford to take a handfull of pills every day can supplement, but that's a fairly new option for humans. So obviously it's not human's natural diet. There is no archaeological evidence of any ancient peoples who did not use/consume animal products.
From a VEGAN site:
--"B12 is generally found in all animal foods (except honey). Contrary to rumors, there are no reliable, unfortified plant sources of vitamin B12, including tempeh, seaweeds, and organic produce. The overwhelming consensus in the mainstream nutrition community, as well as among vegan health professionals, is that plant foods do not provide vitamin B12, and fortified foods or supplements are necessary for the optimal health of vegans, and even vegetarians in many cases. Luckily, vitamin B12 is made by bacterial fermentation such that it does not need to be obtained from animal products."--
How important is B12:
--" B12 protects the nervous system. Without it, permanent damage can result (e.g., blindness, deafness, dementia). Fatigue, and tingling in the hands or feet, can be early signs of deficiency.
Vitamin B12, like folate (aka folic acid), is needed to help red blood cells divide. In some cases, vegans may get so much folate that even with B12 deficiency, their blood cells continue to divide properly. In other cases, their blood cells will fail to divide properly and they will become fatigued and suffer from macrocytic (aka megaloblastic) anemia.
Mild B12 Deficiency
Homocysteine is a byproduct of protein metabolism. Elevated homocysteine levels are linked with increased risks of heart disease and stroke. From 1999 to 2003, there were many studies comparing the homocysteine levels of vegans and vegetarians who do not supplement their diet with vitamin B12 to those of non-vegetarians (more info). In every study, the vegans or vegetarians had higher homocysteine levels than the meat-eaters and in the range associated with heart disease and stroke."--
Here in the US people can eat what they want. They have a wide variety of foods from many countries available to them. The vegans who claim that not eating meat saves animal lives are wrong. It's common knowledge that animals die in the fields for their diet, too. And they ignore the environmental impact of shipping the fresh fruits, grains and veggies they eat year around from thousands of miles away.
IMO, veganism is dying. Here's the site of a former vegen who interviews well-known vegans as they revert back to meat eating. These are not kids, 12 year olds who didn't "do" veganism right. They're educated, young adults who fell into veganism, got sick and had to consume animal products for their body's sake. Frankly, the more I read, the less I believe most humans can live a healthy, successful life on the vegan diet.
http://letthemeatmeat.com/tagged/Ex-Vega鈥?/a>
And this lady is making big waves in the internet vegan community:
http://voraciouseats.com/2010/11/19/a-ve鈥?/a>|||I would hesitate to say that veganism needs to be argued against (it is an ethical position that takes animal suffering as a reason for not eating meat products--how is that possibly bad?) but rather adopted freely with caution. It requires much attention to getting all the adequate nutrients and this can be very difficult especially considering that veganism is a class-based eating culture that is almost exclusively upper middle class. Affording tempeh and seitan is not an option for many. Many vegans rely on extensive supplementation, powders etc. to make up the gaps in their diet.
By the same token, meat eating should be approached with caution, too, obviously.|||It is against the bible and you are only creating a larger population of animals that will overcome humans. With more herbivores it is likely there will be more carnivores. Carnivores like meat and humans are meat. Also with veganism haunters loose their jobs. Then the humane killing hunters use gets overcome by inhumane slaughter houses. So basically you guys trying to protect the animals gets them killed. Also when you guys don't eat animals people get mad and eat more.|||There are no reliable plant sources of B-12.
Vegans need to get supplements or eat artificially fortified food.
Contrary to popular belief on these boards, it is actually worse for the environment.
Runoff from fields has created a dead-zone the size of New Jersey in the Gulf of Mexico.
Farming crops destroys topsoil faster than it can be created, even with crop rotation and summer-fallowing.
It is not sustainable. Look up "Polyface Farm" for an example of a sustainable farm.
It does not feed more people. A diet containing some meat actually uses less land than a vegan diet. (Pastured cattle are kept on land unfit for farming crops: too sandy, hilly, rocky, etc.)
It's not healthier than a balanced omnivorous diet. The claims that it is compare vegans to "everyone else", and "everyone else" is usually eating crud. Just look in people's carts at the grocery store: full of processed food.
Seventh Day Adventists are always brought up as an example, but to make an equal comparison, you need to compare to someone with a very similar diet, only differing in meat. That would be the Mormons. And the Mormons are actually healthier than the Seventh Day Adventists.
Soy is actually unhealthy. The only soy humans should eat is fermented soy (tempeh, miso), not the tofu, soy milk, soy everything people eat.
Soy actually acts similar to estrogen in the body.
And a study by Dr. Lon R. White, a neuro-epidemiologist in Honolulu, concluded that eating tofu two or more times a week accelerates brain aging and diminishes cognitive ability. And soy isolfavones can block tyrosine kinase, an enzyme used by the area of the brain responsible for memory and learning.
This is a problem for everyone eating lots of soy; vegans, vegetarians, even omnivores. Soy, like HFCS, is being put it everything now days.
.|||- Doesn't support American industry
- Faulty because its damn near impossible to go without some kind of product that uses animal parts
- Millions of small creatures (rabbits, mice..) are killed by the harvesting of vegetables.
- It goes against natures intent. We have sharp teeth for tearing meat.
- It's dumb|||The only valid argument against veganism is that it is an extremely difficult lifestyle to adhere to completely.
You have to be very vigilant with everything you buy, from the shoes on your feet, to which cereal you buy even down to the soaps you wash with.|||We're humans, our bodies need meat. Arguments against are nothing more than an attempt to back up a hip trend.
I know how difficult it is for vegetarians and vegans to get a good meal when going out with friends. Some resturants don't even have salad! I think a petition should be started because vegetarianism and veganism is so popular now and if there are no meals to suit our needs, then I think that is just horrible.|||They are actually required by law to cater to any specific dietary requests- you don't NEED a petition!
I do however think that a WISE restaurant proprietor should definitely have at LEAST two vegetarian options and one vegan one as I even though I am a meat eater, I do have days when I just DON'T want to eat animal products at all and when you are limited to dubious salads as the only meat free dish at a 'restaurant' it's pretty off-putting!|||I think this really should be the case everywhere, not just in Australia. I doubt a petition will make any difference though, the likelihood of a law forcing restaurants to have such menu items is extremely unlikely. However, I would be surprised if you couldn't request something vegetarian. They might have something not on the menu, or make something without the meat. That is, unless it's say, a fast food joint.
I don't live in Australia, but I went to the Keg with my gf's family, which is a steakhouse that had absolutely NOTHING on the menu vegetarian. I had been to a different location that had a veggie burger but this one didn't have one, so I asked the server. Turned out they had some veggie mushroom fajitas they just don't put on the menu, so I got that. Maybe it is different in Australia, but I've yet to find a restaurant that wouldn't specially make something. Just ask. They want to make money, it's unlikely that they will not work with you.|||I think they should have a vegetarian/vegan section on the menu like they do in thai/indian places. (Even though the vegetarian meals at thai places contain fish sauce and shrimp paste, aka not vegetarian).
They have options for meat eaters so why shouldnt have have options of non-meat eaters.|||YES! 10% of the world claims to follow a vegetarian-type diet. I think a petition would be a great way to let restaurants know that vegetarians and vegans need options, too. I live in the United States (you know, that place that has supersize meals bigger than your head?) and a lot of restaurants don't have any vegan options and I have to customize dishes.|||there should atleast be a vegetarian option at every restaurant. vegan isn't as popular so i don't think it's as necessary, but it would be nice. i work at a restaurant and the only vegan/vegetarian food is a salad.:-(|||As a citizen I believe we citizen have right to petition.|||real silly that restaurants do not cater to vegetarians and vegans. restaurants would make a lot more money|||I don't think a petition would do much. Who would you present it to? And what would they care? - unless it was a guarantee that they would get all the signatories to come in and buy their food. If the petition doesn't translate into bums-on-seats, then it's a waste of time and money changing the menu. And vegetarians only make up around one in twenty Australians, so they're not a very big potential client猫le for a restaurant.
I've been to very few restaurants with absolutely nothing I could eat. Even if you can't find something on the menu, chefs will often make you something which is not there in black-and-white. You only have to ask - salads are quick and easy for chefs to put together - so much so that many don't even bother to put them on the menu. Alternatively, you can ask for one of the non-vegetarian menu items which is *almost* vegetarian "minus the bacon" or "minus the prawns" or minus whatever other ingredient it is that makes it non-vegetarian. It's normally as simple for the chef as leaving out mushrooms or peanuts or whatever for someone who is allergic. Just ask *nicely* and it shall be done for you. (If you ask in a pain-in-the-backside way, you risk getting something more than you asked for. So, always be nice to waiters and chefs, if you really don't want their saliva or other yucky things mixed in with your food - that advice works for non-vegetarians just as much as it does for vegetarians.)
Most restaurants have a copy of the menu on the front window, so you should be able to tell, before entering, whether there's something there you can eat. If there isn't, then just go to the next restaurant (luckily, restaurants normally travel in packs of three or four, for protection - heck, even the Maccas, KFCs, Red Roosters, Hungry Jacks, Subways, et al. are opening up next door to each other these days!).
I mean, I live in Manhattan. There are vegans everywhere in NYC. I have yet to see someone dying of veganism.|||The industry associations are very good at mis-education at all levels of schools and professional conferences. The tactics are well documented by many.
The best research I've seen to support a healthy vegan diet is by T. Colin Cambell in a book called 'The China Study." It's available online and free through Google books. It also explains how industry is able to mislead lay people and professionals alike.|||Well, short answer, because they're ignorant. :)
But to elaborate, I think most people don't really know a hell of a lot about nutrition. Especially in America, where a lot of people tend to rely on processed foods an awful lot & it's been ingrained in our brains all throughout grammar school that there are four basic food groups, and the meat group is where you get your protein, the dairy group is where you get calcium, etc. They don't tell you that protein is found in pretty much all plant foods (some more than others) and there are tons of plant sources for calcium. A lot of people think "Well, if I learned it in school, it must be right" and don't really go much further than that. There's also a huge emphasis on protein and dairy in America (like those ads professing that drinking cow's milk will help you lose weight...yeah, right). Your average omni actually consumes waaay more protein than they actually need, and of course it's mostly animal protein, so they wind up with heart attacks & strokes & such later on. Good for them. :)
I'm 32, have been vegetarian since I was 15, and vegan since I was 23, and I am so much healthier than most people my age that I know. Many of my friends (who actually...well, most of my friends are 5-7 years younger than me, there's only 1 who is closer to my age) are already having issues with high cholesterol or blood pressure and things like that. The only major health issues I've had have to do with foot injuries I had as a kid. I also look a lot younger. I almost always get carded, and anyone I'm out with only gets carded maybe half the time.|||Red lentils, chickpeas, and soy are terrific sources of both iron and protein. I think since switching to vegeterianism my protein and iron intake have increased, since it's now cheap.
According to the U.K. Vegan Society, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans and so these foods should not be relied upon as safe sources, as the B12 analogues can compete with B12 and inhibit metabolism. Also, vegan humans who eat only plant based foods must ordinarily take special care to supplement their diets accordingly. The only reliable vegan sources of B12 are foods fortified with B12 (including some soy products and some breakfast cereals), and B12 supplements.
Thanks to the guy below me - watch out for this!|||there's no vitamin B12 in a vegan diet. B12 is found in meat and it's crucial for proper brain function. A B12 deficient person can suffer from all sorts of nervous system anomalies ranging from mild memory loss to things like mania/psychosis, sclerosis, etc, so it can be pretty bad when you don't have enough B12.
Protein is also a big issue but these days, it's not really a problem. Lots of vegans can get their protein from tofu or beans or lentils.
if you're set on having a vegan diet, just take a B12 supplement and you'll be fine. It is an absolute must.|||I've never seen on somebodies death papers: "death by vegan"
You can die by not having enough of certain nutrients (eg: protein, vitamin B12), but you can't die from being a vegan.
Obviously, as a vegan if you watch what you eat and get enough protein, etc. then you'll probably live healthier and longer than most people.|||Because the meat and dairy industries spend millions of dollars in marketing telling the general public otherwise.
Can you believe some people really think that milk is the ONLY source of calcium?? Or that meat is the only way to get protein??|||Because any diet if not properly planned can kill you.|||Because they think meat, dairy, and eggs are food groups.|||Because vegan food terrorism pisses off so many people they will want to bash their heads to pulp.
Humans were not made to be vegan!|||IDk but maybe becuase since vegans dont eat meat . they dont have protein i guess you could say it shortens your life cause you need protein|||For the same reason some say that eating meat will kill you .|||probably cause of your intake on protein. some people think meat is the best source
I have recently made the decision to become vegan. I have all the research and my older sister is a vegetarian. Still, my parents do not really support our decisions. My sister is free from them being 25 and all, but I still have a lot to go through with them.
Can you tell me anything that will make my transition to veganism easier even with un-supportive parents??|||Don't get angry with them for not understanding - help them to see why you want to be a vegan! Make a list of facts that describe all the benefits of going vegan ( saving animals lives, this is a truthfully healthy choice, longer life...etc.)
Also it may help to show them sites such as meetyourmeat.com (especially if one of your main reasons for going vegan is because of animal cruelty).
Tell them (and then show them!) how just because you aren't going to be eating meat doesn't mean that you won't still get all the necessary proteins and amino acids that you need. (Rice and beans are a fabulous substitute for meat when it comes to nutrients).
Also you age may have something to do with it. I was 15 when I went vegetarian, so I was old enough that my parents (after I talked with them about it) felt I was responsible enough to handle my eating preferences.
Keep your cool and compile together a list of resources. Be like "mum, dad. I know you are having some doubts about me becoming vegan, but let me show why I want to become vegan and how I can still get the same benefits that I would normally get from meat/dairy." Be prepared to answer their questions - even their really obnoxious ones! lol
I wish you the best of luck and I know exactly what you're going through! :)|||Your parents should be concerned that you are getting proper nutrition from your vegan diet. If you can show them how you can plan your meals to get enough proteins and healthy fats and so forth then maybe they will be more willing to support you. Tell them you will prepare some vegan dishes for them to try. They might decide they like it too.|||Possibly refuse to eat meat no matter what, and after a while they'll get used to it and maybe you can live your lifestyle the way you want it =D|||This is child abuse! If you want to get healthy and your parents are at odds with you!|||Why would you want them to except your lifestyle? That would totally suck.
You should want them to accept your lifestyle.
If you cannot support your lifestyle, then you obviously should change your lifestyle until you can support the lifestyle you want. I mean it is common sense. Just be vegetarian for the time being or if they won't allow that, then wait till you move out then go full on vegan.|||Are they gonna hold you down and force you to ingest meat? Of course not.
It would be helpful to provide them with some information to show them you know how to eat healthily and inform them about the reasons for your choice-there are lots of great websites for this purpose.|||Because of the internet this generation is way ahead of your parents generation. You're much more educated about the harm meats can do to the animals and to us.
Treat them with respect and tell/show them what you know....as friends. Then I'm sure they'll listen to you.|||Move out. |||I can't say much more than what others have already suggested, but here are some of my thoughts.
1. Know in your heart you're doing the right thing (because you are) and don't change your ideals for anyone.
2. Keep your cool with him. Respect their feelings about it. You don't have to agree with them, but respect them.
3. Learn to cook! There is NO better way to convince someone that you're eating a healthy diet than by proving it to them through your cooking.
4. Get your facts straight. When they talk about protein, talk to them about beans and broccoli (they have just as much, if not more, protein than the same serving of meat). When they bring up Omega-3's, teach them about flax and hemp seed (flax and hemp have PLENTY of Omega-3 fatty acids). When they talk about cost, show them how our government subsidies are what actually keep beef costs low (a hamburger actually costs closer to $100 than it does $1). Etc, etc.
5. Be patient with them. I know it's frustrating, but they're older and come from a different time. The things they know about food and nutrition are mostly false. They've been lied to for decades and it'll be tough changing their minds.
6. Be a responsible vegan: Learn to cook, learn to shop, and learn about what you need do in order to be healthy (just because you're eating vegan bean burritos everyday doesn't mean your diet is good for you).
Hope this helped :)|||Just calmly explain to them why it is so important to you. There is nothing wrong with saying, 'I don't think it is right to kill animals for selfish desires like a taste in my mouth. There are plenty of non animal foods that are readily available and better for your health' I mean how can you argue with that.
It took my parents awhile to get used to me being a vegetarian and when I told them I was vegan it didn't shock them. Because I made it very clear to them in the beginning my stand point on why I was choosing that lifestyle.
Hope I could help!|||why should you have to accept their life style ( eating dead animal flesh and dairy products) that has been shown to be unhealthy and dangerous??
you are taking responsibility for your long term health and and proper nutrition....by your example perhaps they will learn a healthy life style and be around for a long time....
Pleaaase state your religion (or lack thereof) for this survey!!|||Vegetarians are ok, but vegans are not healthy, you can't be. You need proteins that neither you nor plants can create.|||Christian. I'mmmm a vegan.|||my religion is to be the best you can to yourself, and to others. i'm vegan because i think the best thing i can do to the animals, is to not eat them, but help them :)|||I'm a Christian vegan.|||Hello, my name is Sarah and i am 14 years old. I am a christian, and i think Veganism is amazing. I am Vegetarian and soon to be Vegan. I think that Veganism is a good choice for a healthy and environmental lifestyle. You can get protein from Hemp Seeds, whole grain, nuts, beans, and many other things. Veganism is a great thing.|||whatever, let people do as they like I'm a catholic vegetarian ever since I went to the highly agricultural provinces of my country and cried at a farm were they kept boars and cows and chickens because I felt so guilty of taking the lives they had all the right in the world to live-but, im not going to speak about those who chose to eat meat or any other products derived from animals--as for me i keep eating dairy because I need my calcium plus, What else would all those milk cows do if they werent giving milk to us, just stand around there I guess?? anyhow, I don't eat anything that walks, slides, swims, flies or breathes through a nose just because i feel like it.|||Atheist.
Vegan-ism - When followed properly - is a healthy alternative diet for those who wish to rid themselves of a dependence on animal proteins.
There are many great recipes and in the summer - a wonderful selection of foods ot chose from.
I eat fish, veggies, fruits and nuts. Because I include fish in my diet and buy products that are made using animal based glues (composition books, sneakers, commercial packaging tapes and sealants etc.) I definitely cannot be considered "Vegan".
I do however respect the people who work so diligently to live that life.
On the other hand I get annoyed at the people who claim to be vegan but still use the aforementioned products.
It takes a lot of effort for a person to be truly Vegan and you should not take credit or include yourself in that particular group if you are not dedicated to it.
Thanks for asking my opinion.|||LDS aka: Mormon aka: Christian. I want to be a Vegan.
My grandpa was a farmer and he says that God put animals here to serve man. My grandpa on the other side is a vegetarian. Both grandpas are accepting of both views.|||I don't follow under a certain religion because all religions have little things that defer them form one another, and no one knows which one is correct. Only God knows. Anywayz, I love God and I've let Jesus (His son who sacrificed himself for us to live) into my heart. I pray for guidance and strength when I need help. I also pray when I ask for God's forgiveness, as like everyone does, I sin, but God knows I try very hard to not sin and be the best person I can be. And I'm vegan. I feel it is very healthy, as long as you have a well rounded diet and get all the vitamins you need to stay healthy. I do it for my own health and of course for the animals, which we have taken for granted, instead of working with them and loving them. Just like humans, they are sacred and we are all here on this Earth for a purpose and need to work together, not kill one another. That's just the way I see it.
Good question and hope I helped.
And sorry for the babbling ahaha.|||Atheist. I have been moving in that direction partly from an environmental point of view and partly because the farmers markets are providing such variety that I consider my support of local growers to be a political action against corporatism, the bane of humanity.|||Agnostic - and I think veganism is great!|||agnostic, vegan, and I believe that a living soul should be considered property or used for profit.
Edit: for those choosing to be vegan dont get rid of all your non vegan things (make up, wool coats, leather belts) There is a difference between believing in what you do and being wasteful.|||Veganism is good.
I'm not bloody religious... !|||I am vegan, is is the closest to a moral society that we can be unless we detach from society- agnostic|||Atheist. Vegan.|||Its baaaaad... You need meat, and dairy and stuff. Everyone i know that is a vegan, is soooo weak, and honestly pathetic.|||I am a Christian and God has given us meat to eat and He even mentions it in the bible.
Acts 9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
14"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."
15The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
16This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.|||animals were put on earth for man to eat so i say NOM NOM NOM NOM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM CHICKEN AND STEAK AND FISH AND WHATEVER ELSE NOM NOM NOM vegeans are not healthy btw and if its for the animals well animals eat animals how can we stop them hmmmm? are we going to make every lion a nice glass of grass juice ? no its ok to eat meat and vegetarian is ok but vegan is just not healthy you need dairy and protien and other stuffs to function properly
Fruits/Veggies - You're getting the nutrients from Earth second hand (eating a source that processes it directly)
Clean Animals (beef, fish, poultry, mutton) - Getting nutrients third-hand (eating the thing that eats the thing that processes the nutrients)
Unclean Animals - fourth-hand nutrients (eating the animals that eat the animals that eat the things that process the nutrients)
That's the basis of the Biblical dietary laws. Fruits/Veggies are ideal. But as far as meats, it's not just because God decided that some animals were unclean. It's practical advice as well. Get your nutrition as directly as possible. Don't eat the predators, and don't eat the garbage cans.|||Good answer Report Abuse
|||Does it really matter what you eat as long as you get the nourishment you need?
I eat meat and I eat vegetables and that should be good enough for everybody.
As for veganism I don't mind it and I actually admire vegans for their discipline; I can't imagine eating nothing but non-animal product for the rest of MY existence.
The only thing I don't like about some vegans is if they are who they are simply because they think humans are monsters for eating other animals for food. They say meat-eaters are disrespectful of living things; what are they doing? Are plants not living things as well? So why are they eaten?
Are lions and cheetahs and other carnivores monsters because they feed on the flesh of other animals? NO and that answer should apply to humans as well; lions are being lions, cheetahs are being cheetahs and we are just being ourselves.
Also I should add that if it weren't for the consumption of meat products the human race would never have survived the Ice Age when most plant life perished.
So yeah follow whatever diet you want; just do it for the right reasons.|||Meat-eaters eat too much meat to be healthy.
Veganism and vegetarianism are not how we are supposed to be. Humans are meant to eat meat.
However, considering we have access to lots of meat nowadays, we eat too much being meat eaters. Eating no meat is healthier than eating too much meat. Thus, being a vegan or a vegetarian is the healthier option.
Neither have the higher moral ground, for animals are killed in both process. In fact, more small land mammals are killed in the process of providing specialist foods for vegans and vegetarians, and also habitats for animals are destroyed in this process too (which does not happen in the process of providing food for meat eaters).
More vegans and vegetarians = more demand for vegetables and specialist foods = more animals killed and more habitats destroyed (so animals can never live there again. Ever.).
So neither is more moral than the other - but being a vegan or vegetarian is healthier.|||Health-wise, I don't think you get all the nutrients your body needs from just eating fruits and vegetables (veganism). Although, I also don't suggest eating red meat. Fish is much preferable, and chicken, too. We also need to drink milk. So, there should be a good combination of fresh fruits and juices, fresh vegetables, almonds and walnuts, oatmeal, white meat (fish/chicken) eggs, and fresh milk/yogurt. And these you should eat religiously!|||You can eat vegans, but I think that's cannabalism....just kidding. I know eating people is a big taboo for most cultures.
Although that brings me to my point. I think that most people are speciest and will place higher value on species that are closer to human than not. For example, cows (being a mammal) will have a higher value than an ear of corn ( a plant)...making it harder for them to be willing to consume said cow, morally.
If your philosophy however, is that everything has an equal value spiritually, Doesn't an ear of corn deserve the same respect given to a cow, or a human? If you think about it like that, you might not want to eat at all. Or you might go the opposite direction and realize that since you have to eat to live, you might as well just eat anything, since spiritually everything has the same value.
|||If one is an omnivore by nature, which is what we are, (we have teeth and a digestive system system for booth meat and veggies) then forcing yourself to not eat meat is not natural. Saying that killing animals for food is somehow wrong (a sin?) is just fanatic and denies reason.
Danielle seems to be a level headed person and even nice, but Eskimos, who have been around a few thousand years, may dissagree with her.|||im a vegetarian of 17 years
eating meat is part of nature, we are all food for soemthing else, but i just dont want to be part of it myself, but i dont expect anyone else to change, my boyf is a ravenous meat eater,
i dont know much about veganisim, but i often wonder exactly what they do eat, and whether they care that nuts and seeds are part of plants, part of life, its still eating another being, just one that we dont understand of consider a being,
for me the fact is, if you were to not want to eat any living thing, you would be dead, because there is very little in this life that isnt from some sort of living being, be it animals or plants|||Meat is so delicious. I dont think I could live the rest of my life without eating another ham and turkey sandwich, or never again tasting bacon. So for those vegans, good for you. I'll stop eating animals when they tell me they don't want to be eaten.|||Meat eaters devour vegetarians.
Vegetarians don't devour meat eaters.
Odor eaters devour odors.
Meat eaters devour shoes plus odors plus vegans.
Humans devour the meat eaters,the vegans.
The cooking techniques the real issue.|||I'm an omnivore, so I'm going to eat like an omnivore.
Pandas are omnivores who adopted the vegan lifestyle, how's that working out?|||I'm a vegetarian.Why?
Not sure who(religion) you are addressing|||You think eating meat is bad? Vegans are eating all the plants. That's no better. Just because it doesn't have eyes or a mouth doesn't mean it's any different.|||Veginismus has nothing to do with meat-eating.|||I think vegans eat to sustain life just as meat eaters do. To each his own.|||Both are living beings|||Whatever you like. I'll eat veggies if they're fried.|||I eat both meat and vegans|||I don't eat anything with a face|||to each his own
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